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O'Brien & Doug S6:E16 [September 1, 2022 Better Than the Original] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_05: Just do it.
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SPEAKER_08: Little tone note for you.
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SPEAKER_08: Thank you very much.
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SPEAKER_09: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by MosierMultimedia.com.
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SPEAKER_09: KMH music in Prescotty, Maine.
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SPEAKER_09: The rich runner in Westfield, Maine, and Doug's cousin.
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SPEAKER_09: Larry.
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SPEAKER_02: You're listening to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_09: Now do it like you mean it.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_08: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_09: I am O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_09: I'm Doug.
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SPEAKER_08: And Doug D-U-G.
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SPEAKER_08: Doug.
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SPEAKER_08: I'd I'd I'd dig it, Doug.
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SPEAKER_08: Thanks, man.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, season six, episode sixteen.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I thought we already did sixteen, but yeah, well, I was one ahead.
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SPEAKER_08: If I'm looking at it, it says maybe uh want to make sure they're they're all labeled, right?
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SPEAKER_08: No, they're they're all labeled correctly.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, here's my last time.
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SPEAKER_11: Some reason I for in my head this was 17.
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SPEAKER_11: But it didn't make sense either.
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SPEAKER_11: So like you know.
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SPEAKER_11: What in your head does make sense?
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SPEAKER_11: Not much.
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SPEAKER_11: I did I did have this epiphany today that um I can't wait to get really old.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: Why went to the grocery store after work and there was this old guy come out.
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SPEAKER_11: As I'm walking in, this old guy came out.
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SPEAKER_11: He's wearing a wife beater, shorts, and bedroom slippers.
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SPEAKER_11: Nice.
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SPEAKER_11: And I was like, nobody's gonna say anything to that dude because he's old.
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SPEAKER_11: He's putting his time.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: It's like little kids and old people can do anything they want.
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SPEAKER_11: Pretty much.
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SPEAKER_11: And just get away with it.
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SPEAKER_11: Because everybody just, oh, well, they're they're little.
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SPEAKER_11: They're like four.
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SPEAKER_11: Oh, he's like 80.
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SPEAKER_11: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_08: It's all us sad cases in between.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, we gotta act like the adults here.
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SPEAKER_11: Right.
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SPEAKER_11: I mean, I want to go in a wife beater, you know.
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SPEAKER_11: What if I want to go out in a wife beater shorts and bedrooms less?
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SPEAKER_11: Nothing's stopping you.
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SPEAKER_11: Well, I could, and then everybody's like, what's wrong with that guy?
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SPEAKER_11: Well, it must be a method.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: You know.
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SPEAKER_08: Well, there are those out there.
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SPEAKER_11: Well, there are.
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SPEAKER_11: I think we saw one this weekend.
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SPEAKER_08: I think we did too.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: We had a good weekend though.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh, I'd agree.
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SPEAKER_11: Great weekend of music.
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SPEAKER_11: Really?
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SPEAKER_11: It was full.
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SPEAKER_11: It was chock full of music and fun and it was.
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SPEAKER_11: We had uh sleep deprivation.
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SPEAKER_11: A lot of that.
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SPEAKER_11: It was kind of like a CIA torture experiment.
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SPEAKER_11: Right.
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SPEAKER_08: We had so we had a wedding to do.
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SPEAKER_08: Um when I say to do, we the band played um at our friend Josh's wedding.
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SPEAKER_08: Not our guitar player, Josh.
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SPEAKER_08: Um not yet, anyway.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
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SPEAKER_11: You think he'll ask us to play?
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SPEAKER_08: Josh?
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_08: I don't doubt it.
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SPEAKER_08: Do you think he'll have a live band?
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SPEAKER_08: I don't think it's a good idea.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I don't think he'll have a live band.
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SPEAKER_08: You know, he plays guitar for a living.
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SPEAKER_08: He might not he might just want to break.
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SPEAKER_11: Well, I'm not saying he has to play.
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SPEAKER_11: He should have us be the wedding band.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but would you want I would want to play with him.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: I'm just I'm just thinking out loud.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: I don't think he'd want us to play.
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SPEAKER_08: I think he he wants us to enjoy it.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm not even sure he wants us to go.
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SPEAKER_08: No, he did invite us.
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SPEAKER_08: We're talking about our guitar player, Josh Kovac.
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SPEAKER_08: This is a different Josh, uh, who is also a member of the family.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, the extended family, I should say.
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SPEAKER_08: And uh got married to his new wife, Callie, on Saturday.
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SPEAKER_08: And uh we were uh uh kind of a big part of that uh reception.
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SPEAKER_08: Um we played in the middle of it.
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SPEAKER_08: Well you were a bigger part.
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SPEAKER_11: Well, then the whole thing, because you you have the um the cred.
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SPEAKER_11: The cred?
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: The credentials.
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SPEAKER_08: Oh, b oh, because the MC?
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: Well, I was in yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: So IMC'd, I also DJ'd.
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SPEAKER_08: Um but that was easy because that DJ program you had, man, that was cool.
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SPEAKER_08: Wasn't it?
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SPEAKER_08: Virtual virtual DJ?
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SPEAKER_08: Virtual DJ.
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SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_08: I was wondering how I was gonna how I was gonna do it.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, but I found that, and um, you know, you're supposed to use it for prof you know, you can't use it for professional use or something like that.
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SPEAKER_08: How are they gonna know?
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, what are they gonna do?
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SPEAKER_08: Of course, track you?
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SPEAKER_08: What are they gonna do?
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SPEAKER_08: What are they gonna do?
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SPEAKER_08: Listen to this podcast?
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SPEAKER_08: Uh right.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh but no, it worked out really well.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh and um I use I play basically played music that she she gave me a list.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, these are some of our favorite songs, so I just had all those songs to put into a playlist and and it was pretty it was pretty straightforward.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh but we played for like an hour in between.
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SPEAKER_08: Um it was the first time we played in I would say over three years probably.
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SPEAKER_08: Almost almost three years.
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SPEAKER_08: Almost three years.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: And it was like riding a bike.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, we fell right into like I said, like I think I said Saturday night, I said like halfway through the first song.
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SPEAKER_11: I was good.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's like we're gonna be okay.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, we're doing fine, man.
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SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: So it was good.
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SPEAKER_08: And then so that got over pretty late for us these days.
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SPEAKER_11: Oh, good lord.
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SPEAKER_11: I got home at one.
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SPEAKER_11: The best the best part though was like the 1030 pizza delivery.
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SPEAKER_11: Yes.
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SPEAKER_11: There were like 20 pizzas.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm like, yes.
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SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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SPEAKER_08: I mean, we had a meal and everything for the reception, huh?
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SPEAKER_08: But the meal was really good.
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SPEAKER_08: But they uh they thought ahead and they they ordered 20 pizzas.
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SPEAKER_08: And they were gone, dude.
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SPEAKER_08: They were gone.
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SPEAKER_08: They were gone.
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SPEAKER_08: And uh yeah, and it so it was it was it was a lot of fun.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was fun.
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SPEAKER_08: That went to I we got I got home at one.
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SPEAKER_08: I know you got home at 1 30.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh which we're we used to do all the time.
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SPEAKER_08: You know.
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SPEAKER_11: Well, no, we used to get done playing at one.
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SPEAKER_08: And we yeah, my head would hit the pillow at 3 a.m.
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SPEAKER_11: We'd get to bed like three, four o'clock, you know.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: So that was actually.
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SPEAKER_08: So those days are over.
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SPEAKER_08: So we uh we um I had to get up and go to church the next morning, and then we had to go and play with the syndicate uh Sunday afternoon.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: So it was so it was like you said, there was a lot of sleep deprivation.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm mostly caught up.
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SPEAKER_08: I don't know if you can tell.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm still a little tired, a little run down.
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SPEAKER_08: It's we're recording this on Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_08: Um but the syndicate show was great.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was it went really well.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was really hot.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Jesus Christ.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: We uh it was yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: I don't I don't know why they're opposed to putting uh you know like a canopy up or something.
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SPEAKER_11: Something.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: I mean, it's it's just it's hot.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, we were right in front of a metal building.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_11: So you're reflecting that heat back.
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SPEAKER_08: So this was and this was part of the It's like being a rotisserie chicken.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
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SPEAKER_08: This was part of the Chronomine Balloon Fest.
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SPEAKER_08: And I didn't see those balloons drive in.
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SPEAKER_11: I I saw them like piecemeal, they would come in like one, and then they would just kind of like start setting up.
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SPEAKER_08: I guess I wasn't paying attention at all because it was towards the end of the show I was like, oh my word, there's balloons here.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, they just showed up out of nowhere and they're like, okay, let's go.
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SPEAKER_11: Right.
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SPEAKER_11: Like, well, I was because the whole time I was like, wow, we're at the balloon fest with no balloons.
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SPEAKER_08: Right, yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: You know, there weren't even any kitty balloons.
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SPEAKER_11: Right.
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SPEAKER_08: I mean, there was nothing, man.
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SPEAKER_08: We played most of this the set with without anybody.
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SPEAKER_11: Last year, I mean we had balloons the whole time.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, like and there was a DJ that was giving, you know, taking breaks in between.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that was pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_11: He was a cool guy.
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SPEAKER_08: He was so anyway, that was our that was our weekend.
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SPEAKER_08: And yes, again, it was it was a long one.
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SPEAKER_08: It was.
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SPEAKER_08: One of the things uh because we got together with Shane, obviously our bass player, which we haven't seen uh you know, we haven't played with uh for f as a full band uh for quite a while, almost three years, like we said.
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SPEAKER_08: Um and whenever we get together, it's just like and and and people there said it too, you know, this is we've got a special thing.
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SPEAKER_08: This is when we get together, there's something because we've been playing for so long.
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SPEAKER_08: Magic.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, something uh we've been playing together for so long.
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SPEAKER_08: Like Henry Potter.
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SPEAKER_08: One of the things that uh we talked about just briefly was I think I can't remember what song we were talking about, but Shane brought up a song and it was a cover, and he said something about that's one of the times where the cover is better than the original.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, but I don't remember what the song was.
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SPEAKER_08: I don't remember what the song was either.
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SPEAKER_08: Um I'm sure he'll tell us once he listens to this podcast.
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SPEAKER_08: Of course he will.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: But I did find a thing uh on rockpasta.com.
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SPEAKER_08: Um I like it with the marinara, which is ten classic rock covers that were better than the original.
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SPEAKER_08: And I'm not sure I agree with all of them.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, um and some of them you may not even know that they're covers.
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SPEAKER_08: Um I'm just gonna go through them.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, and we can talk about whether we're gonna.
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SPEAKER_08: And I agree with the first one.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay.
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SPEAKER_08: Knocking on Heaven's Door.
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SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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SPEAKER_08: Because I don't know, Guns N' Roses kind of made that their own.
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SPEAKER_08: It's a Bob Dylan song.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: A great song.
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SPEAKER_11: Um Even the Bob Dylan song is great.
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SPEAKER_11: Right, it is.
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SPEAKER_11: But I do like the Guns N' Roses version much better.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and uh, I don't know, it's uh they rocked it up a little bit, and like I said, they kind of made it their own.
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SPEAKER_08: So I would agree with that one.
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SPEAKER_08: I I am gonna you're not gonna like this, I don't think.
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SPEAKER_08: Um the next one.
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SPEAKER_08: I I think well, I'll just say it, with a little help from my friends, Joe Cocker, I like better than the Beatles.
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SPEAKER_08: Oh, that's blasphemy.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I knew you weren't gonna like it.
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SPEAKER_08: I just like what he did with it, you know.
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SPEAKER_11: No, I it was good, you know, but I'm always gonna like the original better than the Joe Cocker.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I I I just like see I'm just that's just a personal thing.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm a bluesy guy.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you know, and he made it very soulful.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: And I don't know.
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SPEAKER_08: I just I dig it I dig it better than the original.
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SPEAKER_08: I like the original.
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SPEAKER_08: Actually, I love the original.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, no, I get that.
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SPEAKER_11: Uh I just I just prefer the original.
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SPEAKER_08: Um there's a here's another Bob Dylan song.
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SPEAKER_08: Can you guess?
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SPEAKER_08: That the origin cover is better than the original.
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SPEAKER_08: Shameless.
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SPEAKER_08: That was really dull.
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SPEAKER_08: Garth Brooks.
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SPEAKER_08: That was different.
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SPEAKER_11: I thought which one am I thinking of?
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SPEAKER_08: Oh, you're thinking of to make you feel my love.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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SPEAKER_08: I do think Garth Brooks' version of that song is better than Bob Dylan's version.
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SPEAKER_08: I d I do agree with that.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: No, this one is um Rainy Day Women.
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unknown: No.
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SPEAKER_08: Did anybody ever cover that song?
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SPEAKER_08: I think I think there's a lot of covers of that song, but none that none that went kind of went like when you think anywhere, you know.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
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SPEAKER_08: When you think of Rainy Day Women, you think of Bob Dylan.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I don't think of anybody's cover of it.
10:34
SPEAKER_08: Uh All Along the Watchtower.
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SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah.
10:37
SPEAKER_11: I keep forgetting that's a couple of things.
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SPEAKER_11: Jimmy Jimi Hendrix, yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that's pretty good.
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SPEAKER_08: He made that his own.
10:40
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you know.
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SPEAKER_11: It was like two different songs, man.
10:43
SPEAKER_08: Right.
10:43
SPEAKER_08: You know, so yeah.
10:45
SPEAKER_08: Um Black Magic Woman.
10:48
SPEAKER_08: That's Santana.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
10:49
SPEAKER_08: That's a cover.
10:50
SPEAKER_08: Did you know that?
10:51
SPEAKER_08: I didn't know that.
10:52
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
10:52
SPEAKER_08: Let me see if I can.
10:53
SPEAKER_08: Let me see.
10:54
SPEAKER_08: Actually, you know.
10:54
SPEAKER_08: Who did the original?
10:55
SPEAKER_08: I will I'm gonna surprise you.
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SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
10:57
SPEAKER_08: Um see if you can tell me.
10:58
SPEAKER_08: You actually, you know what?
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SPEAKER_08: You won't be able to tell me who did it.
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SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay, never mind then.
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SPEAKER_11: Because I'll just sit here and be stupid.
11:09
SPEAKER_11: Is that you being stupid?
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SPEAKER_11: I like that.
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SPEAKER_05: Stupid.
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SPEAKER_11: Big stupid, stupid head.
11:16
SPEAKER_11: Dog Doug! Doug is dumb.
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SPEAKER_11: Okay.
11:21
SPEAKER_11: Holy crap, what was that?
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SPEAKER_00: Got a black magic woman.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, I got a black magic.
11:36
SPEAKER_08: So, I don't know if you know, but this band started out as a blues band before Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined.
11:44
SPEAKER_11: Is this Fleetwood Mac?
11:45
SPEAKER_08: This is Fleetwood Mac.
11:46
SPEAKER_08: Wow.
11:46
SPEAKER_08: And it's Peter Green on vocals and guitar.
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SPEAKER_08: And it was it's a song, I believe it's written by Peter Green.
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SPEAKER_08: Really?
11:52
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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SPEAKER_08: It's a cover of a Fleetwood Mac song.
11:54
SPEAKER_08: Oh.
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SPEAKER_08: Well, we're so used to Santana's version, which I do think is far superior.
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SPEAKER_11: I do actually, yes.
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SPEAKER_08: Now that I've heard this.
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SPEAKER_08: And it might be just because we're so used to Santana's version.
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SPEAKER_11: Could be.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, but I don't know, Santana.
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SPEAKER_11: But that version, this version, the Fleetwood Mac one is not bad.
12:09
SPEAKER_08: No, it's it's good.
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SPEAKER_08: It's great.
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SPEAKER_08: Peter Green was was awesome.
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SPEAKER_08: Um how about the original version of this?
12:18
SPEAKER_08: Of course.
12:19
SPEAKER_08: That's good.
12:20
SPEAKER_08: Of course.
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SPEAKER_08: So good.
12:21
SPEAKER_13: I shot the sheriff.
12:28
SPEAKER_13: Oh no, no.
12:31
SPEAKER_13: I shot the shirt.
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SPEAKER_11: Little Bob Marley.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
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SPEAKER_09: Now I love this.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: I actually, okay, this is one or more I'm gonna have to disagree because I actually like this one better than the Clapton.
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SPEAKER_08: I was gonna say the same thing.
12:56
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
12:56
SPEAKER_08: I mean, I love I love me some Clapton.
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SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
12:58
SPEAKER_08: Um the Mark! No, Clapton.
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SPEAKER_08: Eric Clapton! Um but yeah, I I I do think I like the Marley version better.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: I mean, nothing wrong with Eric Clapton version, and that's the version I'm more familiar with.
13:14
SPEAKER_11: Right.
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SPEAKER_11: But I definitely like the Bob Marley.
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SPEAKER_08: There's just more there's more guitar in this one, obviously.
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SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I should share it.
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SPEAKER_10: He kind of stayed true to it too.
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SPEAKER_10: He did actually very, very true to it.
13:40
SPEAKER_04: They're trying to track me down.
13:45
SPEAKER_04: They say they want to bring me in guilty.
13:49
SPEAKER_08: I do like this part.
13:50
SPEAKER_08: Is this in the original?
13:51
SPEAKER_08: Oh, remember.
14:05
SPEAKER_08: I think it is actually.
14:06
SPEAKER_08: No.
14:06
SPEAKER_08: I think it is.
14:07
SPEAKER_08: Anyway, um, so yeah, this is a Clapton uh version of I Shot the Sheriff.
14:12
SPEAKER_08: And I do I think, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna agree.
14:14
SPEAKER_08: I like um I like Bob Marley's version better.
14:18
SPEAKER_08: Bob.
14:19
SPEAKER_08: Uh how about let me see if I can find uh easily find this in my collection here.
14:27
SPEAKER_08: Because I will agree that this cover, I think this cover is better than the original.
14:34
SPEAKER_08: Do I even have this song?
14:43
SPEAKER_08: I don't have it.
14:44
SPEAKER_08: Oh.
14:44
SPEAKER_08: Okay, so obviously it's better than the original because I don't have the original.
14:47
SPEAKER_11: Well, there we go.
14:49
SPEAKER_11: Problem solved.
14:50
SPEAKER_08: I do want to play you the original first before I play the cover.
14:53
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
14:53
SPEAKER_08: So let me see if I can dial it up here.
14:56
SPEAKER_11: Alright.
14:57
SPEAKER_11: Let's get on the interwebs.
14:59
SPEAKER_11: There we go.
15:00
SPEAKER_11: This one right here.
15:06
SPEAKER_08: I like it.
15:07
SPEAKER_08: Sounds okay.
15:08
SPEAKER_08: There's a titles on this, and this is YouTube, but there's a title showing me the name of it.
15:30
SPEAKER_08: You don't recognize this song at all?
15:38
SPEAKER_08: What is it?
15:43
SPEAKER_08: You can tell who it is though.
15:49
SPEAKER_08: Okay, well, if you don't know who it is, let me play the cover.
15:52
SPEAKER_08: It's from an MTV unplugged.
16:12
SPEAKER_11: The Nirvana?
16:13
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
16:14
SPEAKER_08: The man who sold the world.
16:16
SPEAKER_11: Oh.
16:18
SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna be honest with you, never didn't even know it was a cover song.
16:21
SPEAKER_08: Really?
16:21
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
16:22
SPEAKER_11: Well, like I said, I'd never heard the Bowie version either.
16:24
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I think the uh I do think I like Nirvana's version.
16:27
SPEAKER_08: And I don't know why.
16:29
SPEAKER_08: It just seems more organic.
16:32
SPEAKER_08: Sure.
16:32
SPEAKER_08: Because it's it's live.
16:33
SPEAKER_08: It's TV unplugged.
16:35
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, I can see that.
16:39
SPEAKER_08: That's when Dave Grohl played drums, obviously.
16:42
SPEAKER_08: Dave Grohl played drums?
16:44
SPEAKER_08: He did.
16:45
SPEAKER_08: Whoa! Mind blown.
16:49
SPEAKER_08: Oh, the uh uh uh Taylor um Hawkins tribute to this weekend.
16:54
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
16:55
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
16:58
SPEAKER_08: I do like this song and I love Nirvana's version of it.
17:01
SPEAKER_11: I do, I mean, uh I I thought it was a Nirvana song, but I thought it was weird.
17:05
SPEAKER_11: I didn't see it on any Nirvana album.
17:07
SPEAKER_11: I thought it might have been just the one that was gonna come on the album before Kurt died or something like that.
17:13
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I know it was on their MTV unplugged.
17:15
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
17:15
SPEAKER_11: I d I do remember, I do remember it from there.
17:18
SPEAKER_11: But I I I was blown away that it was a Hello Son.
17:24
SPEAKER_11: See, no Simon and Garfunkel.
17:26
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
17:27
SPEAKER_08: A lot of people freaked about the cover of this song by um Because a Vision Speaker.
17:33
SPEAKER_08: Disturbed?
17:33
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
17:34
SPEAKER_08: I didn't like it.
17:35
SPEAKER_08: His voice is amazing.
17:37
SPEAKER_08: It's you know sleeping.
17:39
SPEAKER_08: So this I'll always go with the original.
17:43
SPEAKER_10: That was this one?
17:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
17:44
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
17:45
SPEAKER_08: I have to.
17:46
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
17:46
SPEAKER_08: Because this is beyond classic.
17:48
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
17:49
SPEAKER_11: Um there was nothing wrong with the disturbed version.
17:53
SPEAKER_11: No, I don't think so either.
17:54
SPEAKER_11: But I I just prefer this version better.
17:57
SPEAKER_08: I agree.
17:57
SPEAKER_08: And give you a little hint or a little taste of uh uh I do like what they did with it.
18:03
SPEAKER_08: I mean it was it was it was kind of neat what they did.
18:12
unknown: Hello, darkness, my own friend.
18:17
SPEAKER_06: I've come to talk with you again.
18:22
SPEAKER_08: Just the way his voice resonates.
18:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you know, it's causing visions of sleep could be lifted scenes when I was sleeping.
18:36
SPEAKER_06: And vision that was landed in my brain still in me with him.
18:53
SPEAKER_08: And he does do what you think he's gonna do later in the words and I'm a teacher.
19:05
SPEAKER_08: They really did a great job.
19:06
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it was actually good.
19:07
SPEAKER_11: But I I'm always gonna go with Simon and Graff Uncle.
19:10
SPEAKER_08: As as am I.
19:12
SPEAKER_08: Um I th in the keep in mind that the writer of this article thinks that the covers are better than the originals.
19:20
SPEAKER_08: Right.
19:20
SPEAKER_08: So I'm also gonna go with the original on this one, um, only because I don't know.
19:32
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
19:32
SPEAKER_08: You know what it is?
19:33
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
19:34
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
19:35
SPEAKER_04: Well, we're away and my baby bee.
19:42
SPEAKER_11: Not taking away from Pearl Jam.
19:43
SPEAKER_11: No, it was a good one.
19:46
SPEAKER_08: But I have to go with the original.
19:47
SPEAKER_11: I have the original much better.
19:48
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, this is J.
19:49
SPEAKER_08: Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers.
19:51
SPEAKER_08: One hit wonder.
19:52
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
19:55
SPEAKER_08: But the um the Pearl Jam version, I think was um was it like a benefit or something?
20:28
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, see, they did a good job.
20:30
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
20:30
SPEAKER_11: No, I I don't know, I don't mind it.
20:32
SPEAKER_11: I just prefer the original better.
20:34
SPEAKER_08: I'm I'm with you.
20:34
SPEAKER_08: I mean it's but I think they there was a purpose for for them to actually do that song.
20:38
SPEAKER_08: I think it was it was either it was a benefit for something.
20:43
SPEAKER_08: They they sold it as a single to raise money for something.
20:46
SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
20:47
SPEAKER_08: Um, I if I'm mistaken, so I'm sure somebody will correct me.
20:51
SPEAKER_08: Uh what about this?
20:52
SPEAKER_08: Uh what about this?
21:13
SPEAKER_11: I can't remember who does the original.
21:15
SPEAKER_11: The arrows.
21:16
SPEAKER_08: The arrows is 1975.
21:26
SPEAKER_08: Agree that the the the cover was better than the original.
21:29
SPEAKER_08: Joan Jet was way better than it.
21:31
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:32
SPEAKER_11: Nothing wrong with this one.
21:33
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
21:33
SPEAKER_11: But I like I just prefer the Joan Jet version.
21:36
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
21:36
SPEAKER_11: The Joan Jet version has more life to it.
21:39
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, she really does.
21:40
SPEAKER_08: She really does.
21:43
SPEAKER_11: She puts that Joan Jet magic on it.
21:45
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
21:46
SPEAKER_08: It just does seem more alive.
21:48
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
22:03
SPEAKER_11: Of course, I I dig don't get voiced anyway.
22:08
SPEAKER_08: Same.
22:10
SPEAKER_08: Alright.
22:11
SPEAKER_08: Now I'm gonna agree with this next one, and I'm sure that you will too.
22:16
SPEAKER_08: Here is the original.
22:26
SPEAKER_10: Island brother?
22:28
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
22:30
SPEAKER_10: Although I love this version.
22:32
SPEAKER_10: I do too, yep.
22:32
SPEAKER_10: But I do like the Beatle version of it.
22:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
23:00
SPEAKER_10: That's another one.
23:04
SPEAKER_08: That's another one.
23:05
SPEAKER_08: That's another one.
23:16
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, definitely like the Beatles version better.
23:18
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
23:18
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
23:19
SPEAKER_08: That was definitely a bit.
23:20
SPEAKER_11: I could do without all the screaming, but it's part and parcel too.
23:24
SPEAKER_11: Right, exactly.
23:24
SPEAKER_11: You know, early Beatles records.
23:26
SPEAKER_08: Um did you know.
23:28
SPEAKER_08: Well, here's I'll just play this one for you.
23:50
SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah.
23:52
SPEAKER_11: Why is that?
23:53
SPEAKER_11: I was like, these weren't on the list.
24:03
SPEAKER_08: This wasn't on the list.
24:04
SPEAKER_08: I just remember this when it was covered.
24:05
SPEAKER_08: This is Slade.
24:06
SPEAKER_08: Slay, yeah.
24:08
SPEAKER_08: Come on, feel the noise.
24:10
SPEAKER_08: Which was covered obviously by Quiet Riot, and it had a huge hit with it.
24:13
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I do like the Quiet Riot version of it.
24:15
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
24:16
SPEAKER_08: And so that list is all over.
24:18
SPEAKER_08: Can you think of any off the top of your head that were covers that were probably that you think were better than the originals?
24:24
SPEAKER_11: Oh my word.
24:25
SPEAKER_10: Uh put me on the spot.
24:28
SPEAKER_08: Um his voice actually sounds a little like Kevin DeBro.
24:38
SPEAKER_08: He does, yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_08: Okay, while you're while you're thinking, I'm gonna play this one for you because I found this.
24:51
SPEAKER_08: This is a Frontiers Records artist called Eva Under Fire.
25:05
SPEAKER_08: Journey.
25:06
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, separate ways.
25:07
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
25:08
SPEAKER_08: Wow.
25:08
SPEAKER_08: I don't know why it keeps jumping like that.
25:21
SPEAKER_08: I like this, but obviously I'm gonna go with the journey with it.
25:24
SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
25:25
SPEAKER_11: The double bass pedal is throwing it off.
25:27
SPEAKER_08: Distracting.
25:28
SPEAKER_11: Well it's not distracting, it's just not fitting.
25:31
SPEAKER_11: It's like they're putting it in for because I can play a double bass pedal.
25:35
SPEAKER_07: Right.
25:38
SPEAKER_11: The vocals just don't have any life to them.
25:45
SPEAKER_11: It's too operating.
25:47
SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
25:48
SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
25:50
SPEAKER_11: I mean she can stay in.
25:55
SPEAKER_10: That's all about it.
26:06
SPEAKER_07: She's not bad to look at either.
26:08
SPEAKER_07: Alright.
26:12
SPEAKER_08: Nah, I gotta go with the original on that one too.
26:17
SPEAKER_08: I just found it and I figured we're we'd fit in with this conversation.
26:19
SPEAKER_08: Absolutely, yeah.
26:20
SPEAKER_08: Um I you know, I gotta think of because we play covers, obviously.
26:24
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, we play a lot of covers.
26:25
SPEAKER_08: Every band that we're in.
26:26
SPEAKER_08: I mean, but we also write songs.
26:27
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
26:28
SPEAKER_08: Uh, not with the syndicate, but you know, with Comic Crossing and whatnot.
26:31
SPEAKER_08: But I gotta think, there's all kinds of tribute bands out there.
26:35
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
26:36
SPEAKER_08: And I suppose I because I was I would never want to be in a tribute band or in a cover band only.
26:48
SPEAKER_08: Because I think as a creative person, and you know, you could poo-poo on this if you want, but as a creative person, I would want to um let myself shine through.
27:01
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
27:02
SPEAKER_08: You know, I would want to make something that is new or um but it solely comes from me.
27:09
SPEAKER_08: Right.
27:09
SPEAKER_08: As a creative.
27:10
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
27:11
SPEAKER_08: Now, if you're just you are a musician and you love playing music no matter what, and you love this band so much, I think of journey tribute bands, I think of rush tribute bands.
27:19
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
27:19
SPEAKER_08: You know, that's been done.
27:21
SPEAKER_08: I mean, rush there's only one rush.
27:23
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
27:24
SPEAKER_08: You know, and yeah, you probably make a living playing tribute bands, but I gotta I you know, I don't know.
27:31
SPEAKER_08: I don't know how I feel about uh not that I have that problem.
27:36
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, no, but uh, you know, you gotta you gotta make a living somehow.
27:41
SPEAKER_11: Right.
27:41
SPEAKER_11: If you're gonna I mean if if you if you're making a good living playing nothing but rush songs, right.
27:47
SPEAKER_11: Then play nothing but rush songs.
27:48
SPEAKER_11: I mean you could you could you could do your own thing, you know.
27:52
SPEAKER_11: Like we do.
27:53
SPEAKER_11: We play cover songs and then we put our own songs, you know, we sneak around to the side.
27:56
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, but could you do that if it didn't sound like rush?
27:59
SPEAKER_08: Like if you were playing a rush tribute show and you snuck in one of your songs, wouldn't it have to sound like rush?
28:06
SPEAKER_11: I don't think necessarily.
28:08
SPEAKER_11: Maybe they would just be like, hey, we wrote this.
28:10
SPEAKER_11: What do you guys think?
28:11
SPEAKER_11: You know?
28:11
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
28:12
SPEAKER_11: And if they, you know, if they all leave and go to the bar, then you know.
28:15
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
28:16
SPEAKER_11: You know, so I don't know.
28:18
SPEAKER_11: Or in our case, you know, old women shake their butts in your face.
28:21
SPEAKER_11: So I don't know.
28:24
SPEAKER_08: Whatever.
28:24
SPEAKER_08: You know, Curse, we we've been playing in cover bands most of our lives.
28:28
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
28:28
SPEAKER_08: You know, so I get it.
28:30
SPEAKER_08: And I you you want to make people happy and you um you're g you're playing your instrument and you're you're enjoying yourself and hopefully they're enjoying themselves too.
28:38
SPEAKER_08: I get it, I get that aspect of it.
28:40
SPEAKER_08: But as a creative person, I would want to um be um I don't know.
28:48
SPEAKER_08: I I would want to be I'm gonna say be known for, but I don't you know, fame is not what I'm talking about.
28:56
SPEAKER_08: I mean like my my work, my creation, you know, I would want you need an outlet.
29:01
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, something.
29:02
SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
29:03
SPEAKER_08: I was just thinking about that today, and I don't I don't think I could only play in a cover band because I play in cover bands now, yeah, but I still write my own stuff.
29:10
SPEAKER_11: Exactly.
29:10
SPEAKER_08: You know, no nobody ever hears it, but you know sometimes they do.
29:14
SPEAKER_11: Sometimes they do.
29:14
SPEAKER_11: And then they shake their butt through your face.
29:17
SPEAKER_08: That's true.
29:18
SPEAKER_08: Oh, that's true, yeah.
29:19
SPEAKER_08: We played one of our songs, and that's when she shook her buttons.
29:23
SPEAKER_08: That's what I'm saying, dude.
29:24
SPEAKER_08: Yes, yes.
29:25
SPEAKER_08: It's the butt shaker song.
29:26
SPEAKER_08: It is the butt shaker song.
29:28
SPEAKER_08: Okay, so we talked about Journey a little bit.
29:30
SPEAKER_08: I came up across this other thing um from ultimate classicrock.com.
29:36
SPEAKER_08: Uh we talked a little bit about replacement singers um on a previous podcast, I'm sure.
29:43
SPEAKER_08: Just like just like we've talked about cover bands before.
29:45
SPEAKER_08: Right.
29:46
SPEAKER_08: But I thought this was interesting, and I think some of these might be surprising.
29:50
SPEAKER_08: Uh uh some of them won't.
29:52
SPEAKER_08: Obviously, I'm just going from their list here.
29:54
SPEAKER_08: Um Adam Lambert replaced it's interesting to me the way they have this done.
30:02
SPEAKER_08: Adam Lambert sings for Queen now.
30:04
SPEAKER_08: Right.
30:05
SPEAKER_08: But they have Adam Lambert, parentheses Queen, and he replaced Paul Rogers.
30:14
SPEAKER_11: I don't remember Paul Rogers ever singing with Queen.
30:16
SPEAKER_08: Well he did, but it was it was he wasn't the singer for Queen.
30:21
SPEAKER_08: It was Queen with Paul Rogers.
30:24
SPEAKER_08: It was a like a it wasn't a one-time thing.
30:27
SPEAKER_08: You don't remember that?
30:28
SPEAKER_08: We we did a um when we were on the radio back then, um, they had um they had a couple songs.
30:38
SPEAKER_08: Fat Bottom Girls was one of them, um that we used to play on the request show all the time.
30:46
SPEAKER_11: Um Fat Bottom Girls Well I get hit in the head a lot, so it's hard to remember stuff.
30:54
SPEAKER_11: Um You know what I mean, Steve?
30:56
SPEAKER_08: I guess But what they did was they took Paul Rogers out on tour, and I think they put out an album, but it was it was a live album, and Paul Rogers sang some Queen songs, and they played songs from Free in Bad Company.
31:14
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
31:15
SPEAKER_08: So he wasn't the singer for Queen, but uh but it's just interesting to me that they they said that Adam Lambert replaced um Paul Rogers.
31:26
SPEAKER_08: Sounds more like Adam Lambert replaced Freddie Murray.
31:29
SPEAKER_08: Well, I mean, because Freddie Murray was the singer of Queen.
31:31
SPEAKER_08: So that's just that was weird for me.
31:32
SPEAKER_08: Arnell Pineda, obviously, of Journey, this is what they have, replaced Jeff Scott Soto, who briefly filed uh filled in for Steve Augier.
31:43
SPEAKER_08: Which is true.
31:44
SPEAKER_08: Right.
31:45
SPEAKER_08: But uh Steve Algeri was with the first one to replace Steve Perry.
31:49
SPEAKER_08: Right.
31:50
SPEAKER_08: Uh and then Steve Augieri's voice was having problems, and Jeff Scott Soto came in and sang on a tour, but he was never the lead singer of Queen or of uh Journey.
32:01
SPEAKER_08: Right.
32:01
SPEAKER_08: Um he was filling in.
32:03
SPEAKER_08: There I think there was talk of him singing lead for Journey, but nothing was anyway.
32:09
SPEAKER_08: Well uh the way they're putting this is weird.
32:11
SPEAKER_08: I know, it is weird.
32:12
SPEAKER_08: Check this out.
32:12
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
32:13
SPEAKER_08: Axel Rose.
32:15
SPEAKER_08: A C D C.
32:16
SPEAKER_08: He replaced Brian Johnson.
32:19
SPEAKER_08: But he didn't.
32:20
SPEAKER_08: He didn't know.
32:21
SPEAKER_08: He filled in to finish the tour because Brian Johnson's hearing went.
32:24
SPEAKER_08: Right.
32:25
SPEAKER_08: So he wasn't the lead singer of AC DC.
32:28
SPEAKER_11: But uh, they are calling it he was just singing with ACDC.
32:31
SPEAKER_08: Right.
32:31
SPEAKER_08: Although they are calling it replacement singers, so they're not saying you know, I suppose.
32:36
SPEAKER_08: Uh Benoit David of Yes replaced John Anderson.
32:39
SPEAKER_08: I I don't follow yes.
32:41
SPEAKER_08: So I don't know.
32:42
SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
32:43
SPEAKER_08: Blaze Bailey of Iron Maiden replaced Bruce Dickinson.
32:46
SPEAKER_08: Right, I remember that.
32:47
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that was a short, that was short-lived.
32:49
SPEAKER_08: Bon Bon Scott of ACDC replaced Dave Evans.
32:55
SPEAKER_08: He was the original lead singer.
32:57
SPEAKER_08: Right.
32:57
SPEAKER_08: He sat he sang that song, uh, Can I Sit Next to You Girl?
33:01
SPEAKER_11: Which was an old I yeah, I just don't I I don't I don't think of ACDC.
33:07
SPEAKER_08: I don't think of A C D C before Bon Bon Scott.
33:11
SPEAKER_08: Right, before Bon Scott or Brian Johnson, you know, you know that's what I mean.
33:15
SPEAKER_08: I mean you didn't realize I didn't realize that I mean I did, I knew this, but most people don't think that Bon Scott was not the original singer.
33:22
SPEAKER_08: Right.
33:23
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
33:24
SPEAKER_08: Um Brian Howe, bad company, replaced Paul Rogers.
33:28
SPEAKER_08: Right.
33:29
SPEAKER_08: But that was he replaced him, but it was a it was a different band.
33:33
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
33:33
SPEAKER_08: I mean it was the same a couple of guys that they were the same, but it was a different band.
33:37
SPEAKER_08: They had a different sound and everything.
33:38
SPEAKER_08: Brian Johnson obviously replaced Bon Scott.
33:41
SPEAKER_08: Bruce Dickinson replaced Paul Diano.
33:44
SPEAKER_08: Um remember when Chester Bennington of Lincoln Park took over for Scott Wyland for the Stone Temple Pilots?
33:51
SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah.
33:52
SPEAKER_11: Briefly.
33:53
SPEAKER_11: I forgot about that.
33:54
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, briefly.
33:55
SPEAKER_08: David Coverdale replaced Ian Gillen in Deep Purple.
33:59
SPEAKER_08: Right.
33:59
SPEAKER_11: Right.
33:59
SPEAKER_08: Uh David Gilmore replaced Sid Barrett.
34:02
SPEAKER_08: Yes.
34:03
SPEAKER_08: Um, but I think that was more he just kind of took over.
34:06
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he just kind of yeah.
34:08
SPEAKER_11: He just filled the gap.
34:10
SPEAKER_08: Uh we'll never forget this.
34:11
SPEAKER_08: Gary Sharone replaced Sammy Hagar in Van Halen.
34:14
SPEAKER_08: I love Gary Sharone, but then Sammy Hagar replaced David E.
34:18
SPEAKER_11: Ron.
34:19
SPEAKER_08: Right.
34:20
SPEAKER_08: Uh Graham Bonnet of Rainbow.
34:23
SPEAKER_08: Um he replaced Ronnie James Dio.
34:25
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah in Rainbow.
34:27
SPEAKER_08: Graham Bonnet, some of Graham Bonnet's songs in Rainbow are my favorite Rainbow songs.
34:31
SPEAKER_08: Like Since You've Been Gone.
34:32
SPEAKER_08: Since You've Been Gone.
34:33
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's a great song.
34:34
SPEAKER_13: Since you've been gone.
34:35
SPEAKER_11: Uh Ian Dillon.
34:37
SPEAKER_11: Dio replaced Ozzy in Black Sabbath.
34:39
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I haven't got there yet.
34:40
SPEAKER_11: Oh, I'm sorry.
34:42
SPEAKER_11: It just popped about it.
34:43
SPEAKER_08: But you're right.
34:43
SPEAKER_08: I mean, we could have put it in right there.
34:44
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
34:45
SPEAKER_08: Ian Gillen of Deep Purple actually replaced Rod Evans because I didn't know that.
34:49
SPEAKER_08: I well, because uh Deep Purple was out in the 60s, actually, and they had a song called Hush.
34:55
SPEAKER_08: Hush.
34:59
SPEAKER_08: You don't remember that song?
35:00
SPEAKER_08: Not really.
35:00
SPEAKER_08: I bet you do.
35:01
SPEAKER_08: Hold on.
35:02
SPEAKER_08: I gotta I gotta play that for you because I bet you do.
35:04
SPEAKER_08: There's a there's an organ part.
35:07
SPEAKER_08: Um this is uh so this is a deep purple song with an organ part?
35:12
SPEAKER_08: That's weird.
35:14
SPEAKER_11: That's unheard of.
35:16
SPEAKER_08: It's a recognizable organ organ part.
35:21
SPEAKER_08: The the wolf howling at the beginning, you don't remember this?
35:25
SPEAKER_08: I bet you you will.
35:43
SPEAKER_08: Wait till they say.
35:44
SPEAKER_08: I bet you will.
35:54
SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, okay.
35:55
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
35:56
SPEAKER_11: Now I recognize it.
35:57
SPEAKER_08: So this is hush.
35:58
SPEAKER_08: I didn't know this was deep purple.
35:59
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, this is deep purple, and this is Rod Evans on vocals.
36:02
SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
36:03
SPEAKER_08: So this was obviously this was um before isn't that fascinating?
36:07
SPEAKER_08: It is.
36:07
SPEAKER_08: That's what I'm I'm saying.
36:08
SPEAKER_08: This is it's kind of neat uh to find this stuff out.
36:12
SPEAKER_08: Um now I lost my oh, I just lost it.
36:15
SPEAKER_08: Hold on a second.
36:16
SPEAKER_08: Right.
36:16
SPEAKER_08: Oh, no, I didn't.
36:17
SPEAKER_08: It's right there.
36:18
SPEAKER_08: Um JD Fortune replaced Michael Hutchins of NXS.
36:22
SPEAKER_08: Remember that, remember that TV show?
36:24
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I do remember that.
36:24
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
36:25
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
36:25
SPEAKER_08: Um Jason Chef of Chicago replaced Peter Sotera.
36:30
SPEAKER_08: Uh Jeff Gutt, uh Stone Temple Pilots, replaced Chester Bennington.
36:35
SPEAKER_08: And they've since replaced him with someone else.
36:37
SPEAKER_08: So they have another singer now.
36:38
SPEAKER_08: Right.
36:39
SPEAKER_08: Uh Jimmy Jameson of Survivor replaced Dave Bickler.
36:43
SPEAKER_08: Dave Bickler sang I the Tiger.
36:45
SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:46
SPEAKER_11: I always just assume it's uh what's his favorite?
36:49
SPEAKER_11: Who are you the first guy?
36:50
SPEAKER_11: Jimmy Jameson.
36:51
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
36:51
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
36:51
SPEAKER_08: No, Jimmy Jameson was on um, I think I think I'm not sure if Vital Signs was Jimmy Jameson's first album with Survivor or not.
37:01
SPEAKER_08: Um but uh he had a bunch of hits like High on You and Right Can't Hold Back and stuff like that.
37:08
SPEAKER_08: Uh Jolin Turner, uh Deep Purple, he replaced Ian Gillen.
37:12
SPEAKER_08: Right.
37:12
SPEAKER_08: Joey Belladonna of Anthrax replaced.
37:16
SPEAKER_08: Do you remember?
37:18
SPEAKER_11: I don't remember who he who he replaced.
37:20
SPEAKER_11: Neil Turbin.
37:21
SPEAKER_11: I didn't know that.
37:22
SPEAKER_11: I didn't either.
37:22
SPEAKER_11: John I know who replaced Joey Belladonna.
37:25
SPEAKER_11: Which was John Bush.
37:26
SPEAKER_08: Right.
37:27
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
37:27
SPEAKER_08: John Karabi of Motley Crue replaced Vince Neal for uh an album, I think.
37:33
SPEAKER_08: Uh was that the Generation Swine album?
37:36
SPEAKER_08: I think so.
37:36
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was terrible.
37:37
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
37:38
SPEAKER_08: Um and Johnny Edwards replaced Lou Graham of Foreigner before the the current guy.
37:45
SPEAKER_08: Lou Lou Graham or Lou Reed?
37:49
SPEAKER_08: I can never die.
37:51
SPEAKER_08: I don't know why I have such a hard time with Lou's.
37:54
SPEAKER_08: Uh yeah, Johnny Edwards uh did one album with Foreigner and it didn't work.
37:57
SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
37:58
SPEAKER_08: Uh I didn't know that.
37:59
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
38:00
SPEAKER_08: Uh Johnny Sollinger of Skid Row replaced Sebastian Bach.
38:04
SPEAKER_08: I since Sebastian Sebastian left, I haven't followed them, so I don't know.
38:07
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, once Sebastian left, I was like, there's no more Skid Row.
38:10
SPEAKER_11: Right.
38:11
SPEAKER_11: You know.
38:11
SPEAKER_11: But they've been touring.
38:12
SPEAKER_11: Well, I'm sure they are, but I mean I I'm not paying any attention.
38:15
SPEAKER_11: Right.
38:16
SPEAKER_08: Johnny Van Zant replaced uh Ronnie Van Zant because of his death.
38:20
SPEAKER_11: Well, yeah, I mean that was that was a necessary thing.
38:23
SPEAKER_08: Yep, Leonard Skinner.
38:24
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
38:24
SPEAKER_08: Um here's something I didn't know.
38:28
SPEAKER_08: Justin Hayward of the Moody Blues, the blonde guy.
38:32
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
38:32
SPEAKER_08: Um, who sang Um I know you're out there somewhere.
38:36
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
38:36
SPEAKER_08: And Wildest Dreams and everything.
38:38
SPEAKER_08: He was not the original singer.
38:39
SPEAKER_08: He replaced Denny Lane.
38:41
SPEAKER_08: Oh, I didn't know.
38:42
SPEAKER_08: I didn't either.
38:43
SPEAKER_08: Kelly Hansen, the current lead singer of Foreigner, replaced Lou Graham.
38:47
SPEAKER_08: Right.
38:47
SPEAKER_08: Because Lou Graham came back to the group after Johnny Sollinger.
38:51
SPEAKER_08: Uh and then left again.
38:52
SPEAKER_08: And then he made a album of Metallica.
38:54
SPEAKER_08: No, that's Lou Reed.
38:59
SPEAKER_08: Kevin Cronin of Rio Speedwagon was not the original lead singer.
39:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I didn't know that.
39:04
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
39:04
SPEAKER_08: Well, you know that song, um uh shoot, it's the really long one.
39:10
SPEAKER_08: Not roll with the change, just which one?
39:12
SPEAKER_08: Uh Riding the Storm Out.
39:14
SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, that's it.
39:15
SPEAKER_08: Riding the Storm Out, yeah.
39:16
SPEAKER_08: That's originally the the lead singer is Mike Murphy.
39:19
SPEAKER_08: Oh, I didn't know that.
39:20
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and and my and they brought Kevin Cronin.
39:22
SPEAKER_08: Kevin Cronin was uh brought in as almost like a uh C.
39:26
SPEAKER_08: Perry situation where they wanted hits, you know, and they and so they brought in the the folk singer Kevin Cronin.
39:33
SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
39:34
SPEAKER_08: Lawrence Gowan was the uh lead singer of Sticks, who replaced Dennis Deeung.
39:38
SPEAKER_08: I didn't know that.
39:39
SPEAKER_08: Mike Patton, here's one you didn't know.
39:41
SPEAKER_08: Mike Patton of Faith No More was not the original singer.
39:44
SPEAKER_08: I didn't know that.
39:45
SPEAKER_08: Uh Chuck Mosley was the original singer.
39:48
SPEAKER_08: Don't even know who that is.
39:49
SPEAKER_08: So Mike Patton replaced him.
39:51
SPEAKER_08: Um again, they had Neil Finn replacing Lindsay Buckingham in Fleetwood Mac.
39:56
SPEAKER_08: Now, they finished the tour.
39:58
SPEAKER_08: I'm not sure if he's actually in Fleetwood Mac.
40:00
SPEAKER_08: Right.
40:00
SPEAKER_08: Because are Fleetwood Mac even touring anymore?
40:03
SPEAKER_08: I don't really know, man.
40:04
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, because it was Mike Campbell from Tom Petty and Neil Finn, and they replaced uh Lindsay Buckingham.
40:11
SPEAKER_08: Right.
40:11
SPEAKER_08: Um but I think it was just to finish a tour.
40:13
SPEAKER_08: Maybe.
40:14
SPEAKER_08: Um Phil Anselmo of Pantera replaced Terry Glaze.
40:22
SPEAKER_08: Did you know that?
40:22
SPEAKER_08: I didn't know that.
40:23
SPEAKER_08: I didn't know that.
40:24
SPEAKER_11: I just always assumed it was Phil.
40:25
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
40:26
SPEAKER_08: Phil Collins of Genesis.
40:27
SPEAKER_08: Did you know that he replaced Peter Gabriel?
40:29
SPEAKER_08: That I did not.
40:30
SPEAKER_08: I'm just kidding.
40:31
SPEAKER_08: Because I read the book.
40:32
SPEAKER_08: Ray Wilson of Genesis replaced Phil Collins.
40:35
SPEAKER_08: Do you remember that?
40:35
SPEAKER_08: Yes, I did.
40:36
SPEAKER_08: One album.
40:37
SPEAKER_08: Yes.
40:37
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
40:37
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
40:38
SPEAKER_08: And you know they didn't even tell him he was fired.
40:41
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they just kind of did it.
40:42
SPEAKER_08: Well, he found out on their website.
40:44
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
40:44
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
40:46
SPEAKER_08: Kind of dirty.
40:47
SPEAKER_08: That's a dick movie.
40:48
SPEAKER_08: It is kind of.
40:50
SPEAKER_08: Ripper Owens, Judas Priest, replaced Rob Halvert.
40:53
SPEAKER_08: Right.
40:54
SPEAKER_08: Uh, let's see.
40:56
SPEAKER_08: Robert Fleischman of Journey replaced Greg Rawls.
40:59
SPEAKER_08: I love his butter.
41:00
SPEAKER_08: That must be that must be uh before Steve Perry came in.
41:05
SPEAKER_08: That must be, yeah.
41:06
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
41:07
SPEAKER_08: Uh Ronnie James Dio of Black Sabbath replaced Ozzy.
41:10
SPEAKER_08: Ozzy.
41:10
SPEAKER_08: Sammy Hagar replaced David Lee Roth.
41:13
SPEAKER_08: He did?
41:13
SPEAKER_05: What?
41:15
SPEAKER_05: This is unsatisfactory.
41:16
SPEAKER_08: Steve Augier replaced Steve Perry.
41:19
SPEAKER_08: Um, let's see.
41:21
SPEAKER_08: Steve Perry replaced Greg Raleigh.
41:23
SPEAKER_08: Right.
41:24
SPEAKER_08: Although, did he though?
41:25
SPEAKER_08: Because they were in the band at the same time and they both sang.
41:27
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
41:28
SPEAKER_08: They switched off.
41:29
SPEAKER_11: I think he just kind of I think it was just kind of like a, you know, move over Red Rover.
41:33
SPEAKER_11: Right.
41:34
SPEAKER_08: You know, kind of thing.
41:34
SPEAKER_08: Todd Latour, Queen's Reich.
41:36
SPEAKER_08: Um That was messy, man.
41:38
SPEAKER_08: Replaced Jeff Tate.
41:39
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was.
41:40
SPEAKER_11: That was a messy thing.
41:41
SPEAKER_08: Tommy DiCarlo, Boston, replaced Brad Delp.
41:44
SPEAKER_08: Uh let's see.
41:46
SPEAKER_08: William Duval, Allison Chains, replaced Lane Staley.
41:51
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
41:51
SPEAKER_08: And he's still with them.
41:52
SPEAKER_08: He's still with Alice.
41:53
SPEAKER_08: So some of those you know, we didn't know.
41:56
SPEAKER_08: A lot of them we did.
41:57
SPEAKER_08: But uh I thought that was kind of cool.
41:59
SPEAKER_08: That is cool, yeah.
42:00
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
42:01
SPEAKER_11: He's just always, you know, you like some of them, I you don't even realize that they're not the original singer.
42:06
SPEAKER_11: Like, you know, Bon Scott.
42:08
SPEAKER_11: Right.
42:08
SPEAKER_11: I just always assumed he was the original singer.
42:10
SPEAKER_11: Right.
42:11
SPEAKER_11: Then he died, and then Brian Johnson took over.
42:13
SPEAKER_11: So in my brain, there's only been two lead singers on ACDC.
42:17
SPEAKER_08: Let's see, can I I want to see if they actually have YouTube has the um Yeah, they do.
42:26
SPEAKER_08: But they have Oh no, that this is the original.
42:30
SPEAKER_08: This is ACDC with Rod Evans on vocals.
42:36
SPEAKER_08: 1974.
42:40
SPEAKER_08: I was one.
42:43
SPEAKER_11: I was two.
42:46
SPEAKER_11: The number two, not two.
42:47
SPEAKER_11: One.
42:54
SPEAKER_11: Okay, that doesn't even sound like the same bad, it doesn't.
43:02
SPEAKER_11: Yodie.
43:03
SPEAKER_11: Nice.
43:08
SPEAKER_08: And Angus Young is wearing his schoolboy outfit.
43:13
SPEAKER_08: Complete with briefcase wrapped around his back.
43:17
SPEAKER_08: And and Malcolm Young is actually wearing.
43:21
SPEAKER_08: I'm not even sure what kind of outfit that is.
43:32
SPEAKER_11: I mean, yeah, it's it sounds like an early 70s song.
43:35
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
43:36
SPEAKER_11: But you know what?
43:37
SPEAKER_11: Bon Scott got in there and just transformed that band.
43:41
SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah.
43:41
SPEAKER_11: And then Brian Scott just, you know, took it to the next level.
43:44
SPEAKER_08: Brian Johnson.
43:45
SPEAKER_08: What?
43:46
SPEAKER_08: Brian Johnson.
43:47
SPEAKER_08: What?
43:47
SPEAKER_08: You said Brian Scott.
43:48
SPEAKER_11: Oh, sorry.
43:49
SPEAKER_08: Brian Johnson.
43:50
SPEAKER_08: Bon Scott, Brian Johnson.
43:51
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
43:51
SPEAKER_08: Easily done.
43:53
SPEAKER_11: They're interchangeable.
43:59
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
44:00
SPEAKER_08: So Yeah.
44:04
SPEAKER_08: I don't even know where to go from here.
44:06
SPEAKER_08: Let's do the uh let's do this.
44:10
SPEAKER_08: That was really loud.
44:11
SPEAKER_08: That was loud.
44:11
SPEAKER_08: Hold on a second.
44:12
SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna turn it down.
44:12
SPEAKER_08: Oh man.
44:13
SPEAKER_08: Do it again.
44:15
SPEAKER_08: There we go.
44:16
SPEAKER_11: Do it one more time.
44:16
SPEAKER_11: Do it one more time.
44:18
SPEAKER_11: Okay, do it one more time.
44:22
SPEAKER_10: I can do this all night.
44:24
SPEAKER_10: Did you hear that O'Brien and Doug podcast where they just played the button all night?
44:29
SPEAKER_10: It was the best one ever.
44:34
SPEAKER_10: Pow! After everything they said, they just buttoned that button.
44:38
SPEAKER_08: Uh what letter are we on?
44:40
SPEAKER_08: What is the letter of the day?
44:41
SPEAKER_08: Is it T?
44:42
SPEAKER_08: Uh yes.
44:45
SPEAKER_08: T.
44:46
SPEAKER_08: Uh okay, so it's time to read from the Guitar Legend Legends and Drum Legends Alphabet.
44:53
SPEAKER_08: Two books.
44:54
SPEAKER_11: I love reading books.
44:55
SPEAKER_08: Both by Beck Feiner.
44:57
SPEAKER_11: Beck Feiner.
44:58
SPEAKER_08: I just want to before I uh He went to a diner.
45:02
SPEAKER_08: Before I it's what is is it T?
45:04
SPEAKER_08: The letter of the Day?
45:06
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's T The Letter of the Day is T.
45:08
SPEAKER_08: T.
45:09
SPEAKER_08: So in the Guitar Legends book.
45:12
SPEAKER_08: T as in Taliban.
45:13
SPEAKER_08: T is for Sister Rosetta Tharp, the godmother of rock and roll, and her awe-inspiring guitar picking paved the way for Elvis Presley and Johnny Cash.
45:25
SPEAKER_11: She's featured in that Elvis movie.
45:26
SPEAKER_11: Is she?
45:27
SPEAKER_11: Well, you know, a representation of not her personally.
45:30
SPEAKER_11: Right.
45:30
SPEAKER_11: Because I'm pretty sure she's dead.
45:31
SPEAKER_08: I'm pretty sure she's dead as well.
45:33
SPEAKER_08: As a person of color and the first gospel superstar, Tharp broke down 1930s racial barriers by playing with white musicians and pioneered the blues through her use of distorted electric guitar.
45:45
SPEAKER_08: Wasn't she was it she No, it was Big Mama Thornton that did Hound Dog.
45:49
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
45:49
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, okay.
45:50
SPEAKER_08: Alright.
45:51
SPEAKER_08: So Sister Rosetta Tharp is the guitar legend of the day.
45:56
SPEAKER_08: T.
45:57
SPEAKER_11: Speaking of uh obscure people.
46:00
SPEAKER_11: T is for Mo Tucker.
46:03
SPEAKER_11: Moe Tucker?
46:04
SPEAKER_11: I've never heard of her.
46:06
SPEAKER_11: With a snare, two toms, and an upturned bass drum.
46:10
SPEAKER_11: Maureen Moe Tucker played standing up.
46:14
SPEAKER_11: Oh she's oh it's a woman?
46:15
SPEAKER_11: It's a woman.
46:16
SPEAKER_11: Oh, cool.
46:16
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
46:17
SPEAKER_11: And instead of using drumsticks, she pounded marching mallets.
46:21
SPEAKER_11: Her minimal minimalist timekeeper approach to playing helped position Velvet Underground as the forebearers of the punk rock movement.
46:31
SPEAKER_11: Oh.
46:32
SPEAKER_11: That's why no way to run it.
46:33
SPEAKER_11: That's right.
46:35
SPEAKER_11: Unfortunately.
46:41
SPEAKER_08: I'm just trying to this is Mo Tucker.
46:54
SPEAKER_08: I guess.
47:10
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
47:13
SPEAKER_08: This is probably not a good representation of Moe Tucker's talent.
47:16
SPEAKER_10: No.
47:18
SPEAKER_08: It's not even really a good representation of Velvet Underground.
47:21
SPEAKER_11: I don't know that it is.
47:22
SPEAKER_11: Is it Velvet Underground?
47:25
SPEAKER_11: Well, if you're listening to Moe Tucker, then it's Velvet Underground.
47:28
SPEAKER_08: From the limited edition version of the superb 2011 album, Trance Love Energies.
47:33
SPEAKER_08: This is Death in Vegas, Moe Tucker.
47:37
SPEAKER_08: I don't think it's Mo Tucker.
47:38
SPEAKER_08: I think it's uh Death in Vegas.
47:40
SPEAKER_08: Oh.
47:41
SPEAKER_08: Um.
47:43
SPEAKER_08: Here, here's some Velvet Underground.
47:51
SPEAKER_08: You would put Moe Tucker in that book, but you wouldn't put Karen Carpenter.
47:54
SPEAKER_08: Did we was Karen Carpenter in that book?
47:56
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
47:56
SPEAKER_08: Oh, she was.
47:57
SPEAKER_08: First her.
48:14
SPEAKER_08: She's not in there, is she?
48:16
SPEAKER_11: I'm not there yet.
48:17
SPEAKER_11: Hold on.
48:19
SPEAKER_11: Only up to J.
48:20
SPEAKER_08: I don't remember talking about.
48:22
SPEAKER_08: Oh, she is.
48:23
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
48:23
SPEAKER_08: She's K.
48:24
SPEAKER_08: Okay, good.
48:25
SPEAKER_08: Good, good, good, good, good.
48:26
SPEAKER_08: Because she was very underrated.
48:28
SPEAKER_08: Oh, very.
48:29
SPEAKER_11: Weren't we talking about her Saturday?
48:31
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
48:31
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
48:31
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
48:32
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
48:32
SPEAKER_08: She was great.
48:33
SPEAKER_08: Okay, so there you go.
48:34
SPEAKER_08: Uh, would you put Moe Tucker and Sister Rosetta Tharp together?
48:39
SPEAKER_08: Absolutely not.
48:42
SPEAKER_11: Why would you sell a talent like Sister?
48:45
SPEAKER_11: Right.
48:45
SPEAKER_11: You know, no.
48:46
SPEAKER_08: Actually, let me uh I did that for Moe Tucker, so let's let's see if we can get a little taste of Sister Rosetta Tharp.
48:54
SPEAKER_08: Uh because you know we have the technology.
48:57
SPEAKER_08: We do.
49:00
SPEAKER_07: This train live.
49:06
SPEAKER_07: I was thinking about this the other day.
49:07
SPEAKER_07: Man, I love the blues.
49:08
SPEAKER_07: It is my absolute favorite genre to listen to.
49:12
SPEAKER_07: It's great.
49:22
SPEAKER_03: Love some cloud.
49:26
SPEAKER_08: She's asking the audience what song she should do.
49:33
SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna see how many gonna ride on it.
49:58
SPEAKER_08: She's telling them not to clap.
50:00
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that's that's what the drummer's for.
50:03
SPEAKER_11: Don't need a bunch of people throwing them off.
50:11
SPEAKER_08: I have a once again, I don't like to talk about work, but I have so my office.
50:18
SPEAKER_08: I'm the m one of the music teachers in in the high school here.
50:22
SPEAKER_08: And there's another music teacher who's also new.
50:25
SPEAKER_08: Um he's teaching a um uh a rock class, like a like a history of rock type thing.
50:32
SPEAKER_08: Right.
50:33
SPEAKER_08: And he's been playing just awesome stuff.
50:38
SPEAKER_08: Like blues, old blues, like Willie Dixon and Muddy Waters.
50:42
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
50:43
SPEAKER_08: And he'll come into me after the kids leave his class.
50:48
SPEAKER_08: I'll be like, how'd that go?
50:50
SPEAKER_08: And he'll be like, Nah, of course.
50:53
SPEAKER_08: Because they they're just there for the credit.
50:57
SPEAKER_08: Of course they're he says, and he told him, he says, you know, this is basically a history class.
51:03
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
51:03
SPEAKER_08: You know, he says, so we should treat it like a history class.
51:05
SPEAKER_08: And he said, Um, if you want the fine art credit, you can go get go take an art class and get and get the same credit.
51:12
SPEAKER_08: You know, this is a history class.
51:14
SPEAKER_08: This is and I feel bad for him because they're just he he he's resorted to, I shouldn't say he's resorted to, maybe he planned this the whole time, but he's brought in his guitars.
51:23
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
51:24
SPEAKER_08: Uh he's brought in a Les Paul and a and uh a strat, and today he had like a I almost think it was uh a Gibson Firebird or something.
51:34
SPEAKER_08: So he obviously collects guitars and he's explaining to them what pickups are and stuff like that.
51:38
SPEAKER_10: He's really reaching.
51:39
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I think he's really reaching.
51:41
SPEAKER_08: But you know, he's I he had them a little more engaged, you know.
51:45
SPEAKER_08: I'm sure, yeah.
51:46
SPEAKER_08: So um I just you know turn it into more of like a school of rock kind of thing.
51:50
SPEAKER_08: I think it's important for people, especially kids these days, to know about Sister Rosetta Tharp.
51:55
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, they gotta know where it came from.
51:57
SPEAKER_11: Right.
51:57
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
52:00
SPEAKER_08: Anyway.
52:01
SPEAKER_08: Uh so that let's close that up.
52:05
SPEAKER_08: Uh that is the letter of the day.
52:07
SPEAKER_08: Guitar legends and drum legends alphabet.
52:10
SPEAKER_11: Oh, did I tell you I finally got the uh I finally they finally got the Beatles one in stock, so I ordered one.
52:16
SPEAKER_08: Oh, but what the next one though is what?
52:18
SPEAKER_08: Country?
52:19
SPEAKER_08: Are we gonna do we're gonna we're gonna do like country and beatles.
52:23
SPEAKER_08: At the same time?
52:24
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
52:25
SPEAKER_08: Why not, right?
52:26
SPEAKER_11: It's our show.
52:27
SPEAKER_08: Right.
52:28
SPEAKER_08: Oh, and uh I probably shouldn't say anything.
52:32
SPEAKER_08: Because I haven't heard anything yet, and it's probably a long shot.
52:36
SPEAKER_08: Do you know what I'm talking about?
52:37
SPEAKER_11: Is it Is it is it him?
52:43
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's him.
52:44
SPEAKER_11: Really?
52:45
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, you didn't get that?
52:47
SPEAKER_11: Not really, because you kept being really stupid secretive about it.
52:51
SPEAKER_08: So I can tell the story uh and not give it away.
52:55
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
52:56
SPEAKER_08: Um, so my daughter works in Ohio.
52:59
SPEAKER_08: The 304?
53:02
SPEAKER_08: What's new in the 304?
53:03
SPEAKER_11: What's new in the 304?
53:04
SPEAKER_11: Here we go.
53:05
SPEAKER_11: Or something like that.
53:06
SPEAKER_11: That's the segment.
53:07
SPEAKER_08: Um, and she she texted me and she said, uh, did you know that I work with someone who knows this person?
53:15
SPEAKER_08: And I said, No.
53:16
SPEAKER_08: And has his phone number?
53:18
SPEAKER_08: No.
53:19
SPEAKER_08: And writes songs with him or something like that.
53:21
SPEAKER_08: He didn't know.
53:22
SPEAKER_08: Did you know that I work with someone who writes songs with this person?
53:28
SPEAKER_08: And I was like freaking out.
53:30
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
53:31
SPEAKER_08: You know.
53:31
SPEAKER_08: And turns out what the person that they've been working with is this guy who wrote the book with him, too.
53:38
SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
53:39
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
53:40
SPEAKER_08: Um, and I was trying uh the they're gonna see what they can do.
53:46
SPEAKER_08: They're trying to get an interview with, you know, that guy.
53:51
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
53:51
SPEAKER_08: That guy.
53:52
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
53:52
SPEAKER_08: Uh, which would be huge.
53:55
SPEAKER_08: That would be huge.
53:56
SPEAKER_08: Um what I'm doing now for Doug is holding up a book.
53:59
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
54:00
SPEAKER_08: Uh that I actually you should read this.
54:02
SPEAKER_08: I should.
54:02
SPEAKER_08: Um do some research just in case this goes down.
54:05
SPEAKER_11: It's pretty quick.
54:05
SPEAKER_11: I mean, it's a pretty quick book.
54:06
SPEAKER_11: I was about to say it looks like a very small book.
54:08
SPEAKER_08: And it's interesting uh because my my daughter works for uh I can say this.
54:12
SPEAKER_08: My daughter works for Scott Hahn, who is a Catholic theologian.
54:16
SPEAKER_08: Right.
54:16
SPEAKER_08: And she does all his video and podcasts and things like that.
54:19
SPEAKER_08: And this guy is major Catholic.
54:23
SPEAKER_08: And that's what this was this book is basically about, you know, his journey.
54:27
SPEAKER_08: Uh and and so on and so forth.
54:30
SPEAKER_08: So uh but it's a good book.
54:31
SPEAKER_08: I mean it's really, really cool.
54:33
SPEAKER_08: He tells a lot of cool stories, especially and what if we do get an interview with him, I want to I want to talk to him about um how can I say this?
54:42
SPEAKER_08: Uh just we'll do it.
54:44
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, without giving it away.
54:45
SPEAKER_08: I want to talk to him about a um I'll just say a seat that he gave up.
54:53
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
54:53
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
54:57
SPEAKER_08: Um but if if if that happens, that'll be awesome.
55:01
SPEAKER_08: It'll be cool, man.
55:02
SPEAKER_08: That'd be very cool.
55:03
SPEAKER_08: Major coup.
55:04
SPEAKER_08: So now that I've completely, you know, p pissed everybody off.
55:07
SPEAKER_11: So who is it?
55:08
SPEAKER_11: Who is it?
55:08
SPEAKER_11: Everybody's like, I haven't got that far in the podcast.
55:12
SPEAKER_11: For me to know and you to find out.
55:13
SPEAKER_11: We're all gonna be.
55:14
SPEAKER_08: And it may not happen.
55:15
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
55:16
SPEAKER_08: It may not happen.
55:16
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
55:17
SPEAKER_08: That's why I would rather not uh yeah.
55:19
SPEAKER_08: So so but I'm I'm I'm hoping it does.
55:21
SPEAKER_08: It would be sweet.
55:22
SPEAKER_08: That would be sweet.
55:23
SPEAKER_08: It would be sweet.
55:24
unknown: Sweet.
55:25
SPEAKER_08: That would be a big uh a big interview.
55:26
SPEAKER_08: So it would be.
55:27
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
55:28
SPEAKER_08: So I'm excited.
55:29
SPEAKER_08: All right, so let's take a break.
55:31
SPEAKER_08: We'll come back and we'll climb the wall of tunes.
55:33
SPEAKER_08: Let's do that.
55:33
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SPEAKER_11: And we're back.
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SPEAKER_11: It's gonna be full of magic.
57:08
SPEAKER_11: Are you ready?
57:09
SPEAKER_11: I'm ready.
57:10
SPEAKER_11: Alright.
57:10
SPEAKER_11: Don't I look ready?
57:15
SPEAKER_11: No.
57:16
SPEAKER_11: I'm good.
57:17
SPEAKER_11: Ready for this.
57:18
SPEAKER_11: Oh, I gotta turn, you gotta turn your hand.
57:21
SPEAKER_11: You really should put like posters or something over here.
57:24
SPEAKER_11: So I can look at something.
57:25
SPEAKER_11: I I did have posters, but my wife made me take them down.
57:28
SPEAKER_11: No, over here.
57:29
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I'm just kidding.
57:30
SPEAKER_08: I know.
57:31
SPEAKER_08: Those half-naked women.
57:33
SPEAKER_11: Oh, where are they?
57:34
SPEAKER_11: I was just kidding.
57:35
SPEAKER_11: It was a joke.
57:36
SPEAKER_08: Alright, I'm gonna go.
57:38
SPEAKER_11: All I can think about is half-naked women now.
57:40
SPEAKER_08: Don't do that.
57:41
SPEAKER_11: What's going on here?
57:42
SPEAKER_11: Why am I getting jipped?
57:44
SPEAKER_08: Oh, cool!
57:46
SPEAKER_11: Wow.
57:47
SPEAKER_08: Uh we actually kind of talked about this uh a little bit today.
57:51
SPEAKER_08: We did?
57:52
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, there's a there's a hint right there.
57:54
SPEAKER_11: Okay, okay.
57:55
SPEAKER_11: And I don't know if we talked about 87 bands.
57:59
SPEAKER_11: This'll be easy.
58:01
SPEAKER_11: I got this down, no problem.
58:03
SPEAKER_11: Maybe we can.
58:03
SPEAKER_11: I'll get it under in 30 seconds.
58:05
SPEAKER_11: Actually, did you bring your book?
58:06
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I brought my book.
58:07
SPEAKER_11: Uh did we already talk about this, man?
58:09
SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
58:09
SPEAKER_08: I wonder.
58:10
SPEAKER_11: You'll have to look.
58:11
SPEAKER_11: Because I don't know what you're talking about.
58:14
SPEAKER_08: Let me see here.
58:15
SPEAKER_11: Let's find the pages, shall we?
58:19
SPEAKER_11: Take your time.
58:20
SPEAKER_11: No worries.
58:24
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
58:25
SPEAKER_02: What do we got here?
58:34
SPEAKER_08: Not on that page.
58:40
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
58:40
SPEAKER_08: Okay, well, there's the band.
58:43
SPEAKER_08: I don't think we talked about this album.
58:46
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
58:47
SPEAKER_11: This would be super easy.
58:51
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I don't think we talked about this album.
58:54
SPEAKER_08: Alright.
58:55
SPEAKER_08: Alright, I am ready.
58:57
SPEAKER_08: Let the guessing begin.
58:59
SPEAKER_08: So it's a it's a band.
59:01
SPEAKER_08: It's a band.
59:01
SPEAKER_11: Sorry, I gave that away.
59:02
SPEAKER_11: Nah, nah.
59:04
SPEAKER_11: It makes me happy.
59:06
SPEAKER_11: Uh uh rock band?
59:09
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
59:10
SPEAKER_11: Um is it uh height of popularity?
59:14
SPEAKER_08: Height of popularity for this band.
59:17
SPEAKER_08: Um I'm gonna say late 80s?
59:24
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
59:25
SPEAKER_08: Maybe early 90s.
59:26
SPEAKER_11: Like hair metal?
59:28
SPEAKER_08: No.
59:29
SPEAKER_08: No.
59:30
SPEAKER_08: Straight up rock and roll.
59:31
SPEAKER_08: Bluesy rock and roll.
59:32
SPEAKER_11: Bluesy rock and roll.
59:33
SPEAKER_11: Sort of, yeah.
59:34
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
59:35
SPEAKER_11: Uh any virtuosos?
59:37
SPEAKER_11: No.
59:38
SPEAKER_11: Uh any iconic songs.
59:40
SPEAKER_08: Uh with this well, this band has iconic songs.
59:48
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
59:49
SPEAKER_08: This version of this band has a few hits, but nothing iconic.
59:56
SPEAKER_08: Is it the same band?
59:57
SPEAKER_08: It's it's the same band name, and they have a couple of members of the original band.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_08: But the rest of them are not.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_10: Super helpful.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_08: They the the record company wanted them to keep using the name.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_08: They wanted to change their name.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_08: But the record company says, no.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_08: We have, you know, there's real estate there.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_08: So keep the name.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_08: So they kept the name and they put out one, two, three, four, I don't know, four or five albums with this this version.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_08: And then they got back together with the rest of the band.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_08: And it's not helping you.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_08: Not helpful at all.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_08: I actually a lot of people give this version of the band flack because it was so far and away from the original.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_08: But I love this.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_08: I you know, I love the original, but I love this version too.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_08: Any guesses at all?
1:01:04
SPEAKER_08: Nope.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_08: Not a clue.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_08: We talked about replacement singers.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I know.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_11: We talked about 87 of them.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_11: I can't.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_11: Dude.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_08: It's been a long couple days, dude.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_08: Okay, how about how about the height of popularity for the original band was 70s?
1:01:23
SPEAKER_08: That doesn't help either.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_08: Um Iconic Singer.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_08: Original.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_08: Uh, who also sang with Queen.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_11: So it's Paul Rogers.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_11: So it must be bad company.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_11: It is bad company.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_11: Ha ha! There we go.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_11: It's bad company.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_08: Thank you for spoon feeding.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_08: So we talked about Brian Howe.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_08: Doug's brain no work.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_08: Brian Howe replaced Paul Rogers.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_08: But he didn't really.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_08: So what had happened was the record company wanted Bad Company to keep going.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_08: Uh Paul Rogers was like, I'm I'm done.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_08: I'm out.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_08: I'm with the firm.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_08: I'm playing with Jimmy Page.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_08: Right?
1:02:03
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_08: And so uh Simon Kirk, the drummer, Mick Ralphs, the guitar player, were convinced to keep going by the record label.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_08: They hired uh Brian Howe on vocals.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_08: Um I can't remember who they got to play bass.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_08: It was not the original, it was not Boz Burrell.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_08: Um and a guy named Terry Thomas was the producer.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_08: And Brian Howe and Terry Thomas wrote most of the songs.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_08: They had, well, I'll play their biggest hits from that era.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_11: Um yeah.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_08: So it definitely sounds late eighties, early nineties.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_08: This is actually the the title song from their album that came out in 1990.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_08: So it doesn't sound anything like that company, right?
1:03:22
SPEAKER_08: But it does, it's it's pretty cool.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_11: Somebody covered this.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_11: Really?
1:03:31
SPEAKER_11: Didn't they?
1:03:32
SPEAKER_11: I don't think so.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_11: Really?
1:03:46
SPEAKER_08: So that was like a hit for them.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_08: And and so is this one.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_08: This one has one of my favorite uh guitar solos in it.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_08: Uh, just because it's just so I don't know.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_08: It's not a difficult solo, but it's just got like a growl and it's a total.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_08: Have you heard this one?
1:04:07
SPEAKER_08: If you needed somebody.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_08: Maybe.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_08: He's passed on though.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_08: I think he had a heart attack uh two years ago.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_08: Uh Brian Howe was the singer.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_08: I remember when I first heard these guys, I was working at Power 96.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_08: Wow! Yeah.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_08: And I was uh getting a ride out to the station.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_08: I was in high school.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_08: I was still a teenager.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_08: I was getting a ride out to the um station by one of my co-workers who was a hero of mine in high school.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_08: Um his name is Josh Ambrutus.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_08: I want to say it right now.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_08: And he played this.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, I have this.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_08: He played this album, and I was like, what is that?
1:05:00
SPEAKER_08: Okay, just for giggles.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_08: I want to play the guitar solo.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_08: And I don't know what it is about this guitar solo.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_08: My favorite guitar solo is in the John Hyatt solo.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_08: Um we'll get to that.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_08: But this is I love this guitar solo.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_08: Just because it's I don't know.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_08: But great album.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_08: Uh it's got I don't think it has any other hits on it.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_03: like that style of music the rest of the good the rest of the album sounds like that they had another one that the album that came before this where is it right there they had there was a distinctive uh distinctive sound that this version of bad company had um so this is on an album called dangerous age which came out in 88 this is a song called one night this was also a very minor hit for them but it almost sounds like holy water right again people give these this this this era of bad company a bad rap I think this is great stuff sounds pretty good doesn't it I think I've heard this song I I think you have it's called One Night Yeah yeah I've heard it yep and okay I'll play one more and you've heard this one too this was the the big hit off this album uh from 88 which is called Dangerous Age this is no smoke without a fire heard it has to stay it does well it does and it doesn't sound like Mick Ralph's playing guitar it is it's a little funky yeah it's it's just a different it's a totally different band yeah and that's what Simon Kirk the drummer was always bummed about was the record company made them keep the name.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_08: Right you know and there was some bad blood between the lead singer and the rest of the band too like the lead singer wrote some songs with the the producer and the producer played bass on the albums and and the other guys didn't even want to be there.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_08: Who's the producer?
1:08:52
SPEAKER_08: Terry Thomas Oh yeah yeah yeah you recognize it right oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so again uh that wasn't that's from the album uh Dangerous Age but the album that I chose was Holy Water which came out in 1990 and it's great and you know except for Fame and Fortune which I think was their first one with Brian Howe that was okay uh the other ones that they put out were were also really good.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_11: Yeah um same sound certain I mean you know you gotta kinda yeah stick with what works.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_08: But then uh Brian Howe was uh well actually um Paul Rogers was freed up so he came back and they put out that um double C D box uh it was like the greatest hits or whatever yeah that had a few new songs on it and then um they started touring as the original Bad Company.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_08: So and Brian Howe went on to tour as Brian Howe from Bad Company.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_08: Yeah absolutely somehow absolutely absolutely and he played all these songs which no one was playing I'm sure yeah you know yeah what did this mean so I I always thought they got a bad rap so I'm I'm happy that I picked uh I'm happy that I picked that one holy water from bad company the Wall of Tunes album of the week okay so the final thing I wanted to do and I think you're gonna like this is I found this on Societyofrock.com you may know a lot of these but I wanted to share them because I think I think there's a lot of humanity in these uh quotes okay um words of wisdom from Neil Peart oh okay this is ten uh things that he has said uh from his books because you know he's known as a drummer but he's he's an author well I have all his books too yeah um he was a a a a massive reader and a prolific writer yeah um so here are some of Neil Peart's most unforgettable quotes about life and I'm gonna start with number ten excitement is found along the road not at the end have you heard that one?
1:11:07
SPEAKER_11: Yep Adventures suck when you're having them that's usually because he because he always traveled by motorcycle.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_11: Right whenever they toured he would started you know because he wanted just to be he didn't want to be on a bus.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_11: He wanted to see stuff but he would he had a tendency to like go off the beaten path and sometimes the beaten path would be like a dirt road that led nowhere.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_11: And he would get stuck and it and his bike was a heavy touring bike.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_11: Yeah uh BMWs he's what he usually drove.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_11: And uh so you know getting it stuck and having to turn it around and find your way back you know and he I I think that's from uh one of his far and away books.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_08: So I'll tell you what I'm gonna let you borrow this book and I would love to borrow one of those Neil Pearl books at some point.
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SPEAKER_08: Alright.
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SPEAKER_11: If I could absolutely uh number eight from the point of ignition to the final drive the point of the journey is not to arrive that's from uh traveling music so you know what book it's from yeah oh wow because it because that book is all about him driving from California to Big Bend National Park and he took one of his because he was an avid car collector also.
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SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_11: And I think on this trip he took his Aston Martin and he and he made up like a pla you know like this was back when you had C D you know multiple CD players you know or m C D players with multiple CDs.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_11: And he that was his whole thing is his as he's driving he's listening to CDs.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_11: Right that uh so for the point of ignition to you know you know starting the car you know that kind of thing.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_08: It seems that m most of these quotes or all of these quotes are um like how to live your life.
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SPEAKER_11: He was very he was very philosophical in his books.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_11: You know it was it was a you know the one I'm gonna lend you is Ghost Rider.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_11: Because that's that's really um you're really gonna appreciate that book because that's when he went on his when his daughter died in the car crash and then his wife died a year later from cancer and then he just he just couldn't take it so he went he just took off.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_11: Jumped on his motorcycle and he was gone for over a year.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_11: Just driving around.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_11: He drove all over Canada, the United States and Mexico you know just trying to get his head back together and Rush was d doing nothing.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_11: You know like if you talk to Getty and Alex they they they thought you know Rush was done at that point.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_11: But uh yeah.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_08: You gotta read that book man because that that'll that'll really number seven the measure of a life is a measure of love and respect so hard to earn so easily burned number six with people too you constantly think if I'm nice to people and treat them well they'll appreciate it and behave better.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_08: They won't but it's still not a bad way to live that's isn't that great.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_08: That's his sense of humor right there number five without knowing it I had identified a subtle but important part of the healing process.
1:14:25
SPEAKER_08: There would be no peace for me no life for me until I learned to forgive life for what it had done to me.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_08: Forgive others for still being alive and eventually forgive myself for being alive.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_11: That's Ghostwriter.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_08: Yeah uh number four quick to judge quick to anger slow to understand ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_08: Yeah I think that's just a view of the people in general now I've heard this one I don't know if this if this was him or if it was him it's been adopted and used everywhere.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_08: Number three, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice number two the proper function of man is to live not to exist I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them I shall use my time and number one we're only immortal for a limited time.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_08: Yeah that's just I mean it's just it's powerful stuff.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_08: It's like you know considering he's a drummer.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_08: Well I mean he was more than a drummer I know but you know very inspirational.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_11: Yeah you know I mean his books are I love that's why I've read his books multiple times.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:15:46
SPEAKER_11: All of his books I've read them at least two to three times each and I just love them all.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_11: And uh I mean just I mean he tells really great the the way he tells stories you really get engaged in the stories and then you know he really goes into you know his philosophical views of life you know and he inter intertwines that with the stories.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_11: You know so but a lot of it's just you know basically life touring life.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_11: You know the stuff that happens.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_11: He doesn't really talk about shows unless something really significant happens.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_11: Like the time Jack Black came out on stage and you know did his thing did his thing.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_11: You know he talks about you know big things on stage that happened like that.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_11: But most of his stories are based on what he does in between shows.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_11: You know, when he's at home you know like like the time because he used to live in uh Quebec.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_11: He had a he had a house on a lake and he he would see this light off in the distance.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_11: He couldn't figure out where it was.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_11: It was like it was like the light of a tower or something.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_11: So he it was his mission to go find this light.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_11: Find out where it was yeah so he he you know he this was before G you know Google Maps and everything so he had to like you know he got maps out and he's like looking and you know he he got his buddy from down the road to help him and they went it was in winter so they had the snowshoe up there.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_11: You know so like a whole chapter of one of his books is him trying to find out where this light is.
1:17:07
SPEAKER_08: Right.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_11: You know and it's fascinating all you all he's doing is looking for a light but you're fascinated by the story.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_11: You know and the you know you know what he did to to find this light and what it meant to him.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_08: You know it's just it's just the way he wrote was just really just I mean sorry to end on a kind of a downer of a uh of a of a note but wow what was downer about that man I don't know and we're usually laughing at the end of the podcast.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_09: Well let's try let's try uh season six episode sixteen is now in the books really crappy book who wrote this Beck Feiner All right that's it sorry back if you're listening probably not we like your books we like your books man that's it that's all uh ain't no more to be done uh until next week yeah uh I'm O'Brien I'm still Doug Bye everybody goodbye the O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com KMH music in Prescott Isle Maine the Ridge Runner in Westfield Maine and Doug's cousin Larry be sure to follow O'Brien and Doug on Facebook Instagram and YouTube drop them an email anytime at O'Brien and Doug at gmail.com