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Set 2: Being There in Person (w/Sal Licata) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: The Salicata Show available wherever you get your podcast. He
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  Speaker 1: was in Game five for San Antonio. He was there,
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  Speaker 1: He was there for the close out. What was it like?
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  Speaker 2: Soal, dude, I actually still can't believe it because I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like, you know, growing up a Mets fan.
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  Speaker 2: You guys know, I'm a Falcons fan. Like, all I've
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  Speaker 2: known is losing, obviously with the Knicks. To be able
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  Speaker 2: to see your team win a championship is hard enough
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  Speaker 2: to be able to be fortunate enough to be there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think my sports fanom will ever get better.
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  Speaker 2: It was as intense a game as I've ever been at.
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  Speaker 2: You could feel like the Spurs fans were upset and
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  Speaker 2: annoyed that their team was about to be ousted. They
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  Speaker 2: were annoyed that the Knick fans were there because there
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  Speaker 2: were thousands of Knicks fans there. The Knick fans could
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  Speaker 2: taste the championship. So there was that intensity back and
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  Speaker 2: forth early on all the way throughout. It was just
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  Speaker 2: a surreal, freaking feeling to be in the building to
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  Speaker 2: see I still can't believe it.
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  Speaker 3: I was in my own eyes. I saw it, just see.
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  Speaker 2: Where it really was not like Adam Silver handing the
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  Speaker 2: Larry O'Brien Trophy to James Dolan, a guy who's been
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  Speaker 2: ridiculed for the last two decades as the owner, to
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  Speaker 2: see him have that trophy and tell Nick Fancy sorry
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  Speaker 2: it took so long. It was the most amazing everything
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  Speaker 2: that you think if you're a sports fan and dream
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  Speaker 2: about having your team win and maybe being there one
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  Speaker 2: day to see it.
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  Speaker 3: It's even better than that.
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  Speaker 2: It was worth every ounce of whatever money, energy, all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff spent in trying to get there.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Winning does cure everything. Because James Dolan has
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  Speaker 1: no right being praised today for the last twenty years
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  Speaker 1: of what he's done as the New York Knicks owner.
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  Speaker 1: And yet everyone even day loves James Dolan because today
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  Speaker 1: we're all feeling good about our team. It's just funny
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  Speaker 1: how it cures everything.
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  Speaker 2: And and it's a great points too, because it's not
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  Speaker 2: just about the losing or the ineptitude. There were there
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  Speaker 2: were really dark days and bad things that were going on.
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  Speaker 2: Lawsuits like don't you know people in the building talking
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  Speaker 2: about how bad it is the Oakley and Dolan like nonsense,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's there's a lot of evidence here that James
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  Speaker 2: Dolan maybe not the nicest guy or the easiest gotta
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  Speaker 2: work with.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously the Knicks were losing forever and.
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  Speaker 2: Now nobody cares exactly get him on the float Jim,
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  Speaker 2: James Dolan delivered.
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  Speaker 3: He delivered that it fans a champions guys.
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  Speaker 4: I am, I'm floating on cloud no on today. There
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  Speaker 4: there isn't too much to nitpick. If I could just
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  Speaker 4: nitpick one thing, I've waited my entire life for this moment.
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  Speaker 4: The locker room T shirts. We couldn't do better than that,
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  Speaker 4: those bedazzled T shirts.
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  Speaker 1: Bedazzled they are, they are they are, and their Spurs colors.
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  Speaker 3: It was almost like the NBA was loo.
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  Speaker 2: They tried with the referees, they tried to get him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, prevent Wenmy from getting suspended, and then all
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  Speaker 2: the merch afterwards, old Spurs colors.
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  Speaker 3: What is that garbage? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Are you saying that James Dolan's responsible for this? Are
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  Speaker 1: you trying to put some blame back on James Dolan
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  Speaker 1: because he deserves he does not deserve universal praise, although
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  Speaker 1: he's getting him from Nick fans today because we're a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of phonies and we don't care. We just wanted
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  Speaker 1: a title. But are you saying James Dolan should have
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  Speaker 1: controlled that the t shirts I.
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  Speaker 2: Think doing there, I'm blaming it. I'm blaming Adam Silver.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you at with that one?
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  Speaker 3: Taylor?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not. I'm definitely not blaming James Dolan as
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  Speaker 4: somebody who wants to go to a lot of games,
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  Speaker 4: as somebody who wants to go to a lot of
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  Speaker 4: Knicks games next year, and knowing the technology they got
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  Speaker 4: inside Madison Square Garden. Let me be on the record
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  Speaker 4: saying I love James Doan. I think he is a
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  Speaker 4: great owner.
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  Speaker 1: JD Right, I mean, I.
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  Speaker 4: Love that kazoo that he plays. I've never said anything
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  Speaker 4: bad about that kazoo.
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  Speaker 1: Jim bow as you know him, we all know him now,
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  Speaker 1: he's a friend to all of us. Now we love
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  Speaker 1: old j d.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable, James Dolan doing something that nobody ever thought. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't think it was possible with the Knicks in general,
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  Speaker 2: especially not with James doing It's just hard to believe.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you going to the parade.
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  Speaker 4: One percent, I'm gonna be there.
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  Speaker 1: What are you kidding me? Of course he's there for
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  Speaker 1: the parade, I mean that's why he went up there
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  Speaker 1: for three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little disappointed to tell her didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to make the trip to San Antonio.
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  Speaker 3: Where we're texting a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going, man, trying to like nudge
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  Speaker 2: him a little bit, like I'm not gonna step any
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  Speaker 2: over step many boundaries. But I know he's here in
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  Speaker 2: New York. I know he can't get enough of it.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot cheaper than like you could. Game
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  Speaker 2: six was gonna be impossible, Like to get in was
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  Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but saw what you missed? What you missed going
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  Speaker 1: the game five is you missed, you know, the city
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  Speaker 1: pouring out into the streets and celebrating that championship. I listen,
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  Speaker 1: I would have rather been at Game five. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: certain what Taylor was thinking there, but you do miss that, right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I would rather be at the
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  Speaker 2: game than being in the streets with shotguns going off
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  Speaker 2: for what I would you I mean.
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  Speaker 3: People's firing shots, lighting buses on fire.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I personally don't like the chaos. I will
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  Speaker 2: not be going to the parade. I don't even like
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  Speaker 2: what do you even do with the parade. You go
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  Speaker 2: there and watch, it's gonna be millions of people not
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  Speaker 2: being able to see anything.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be chaos. I get the appeal of it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've never never been a champion before, so I don't
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  Speaker 2: know the but no, I much rather have been what do.
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  Speaker 3: We do now?
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  Speaker 4: So at one point, in all the chaos and the streets,
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to walk towards Soho. I'm meeting friends in
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  Speaker 4: Soho to go out to bars there. I'm stuck in
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  Speaker 4: midtown and just fighting through the crowd. At one point,
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  Speaker 4: the police start pouring tear gas and somebody goes. Somebody
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  Speaker 4: next to me is like, is that tear gas? I go,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I've been crying like this. I've just
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  Speaker 4: been weeping.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, I know it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know like you always think like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you'll be emotional. I did not know that I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna be just like I was a mess man, just
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  Speaker 2: thinking of everything you think about your life and people
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  Speaker 2: that are no longer here that can enjoy this, and
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  Speaker 2: what it means to so many people. Thinking back to
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  Speaker 2: me as a fourteen fifteen year old kid, putting everything
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  Speaker 2: I had into Starks and Ewing and Oakley and ninety
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  Speaker 2: four and never having it pay off the Ewing miss
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  Speaker 2: finger Roll the ninety nine season, like all of it,
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  Speaker 2: and then to have it like, holy.
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  Speaker 3: COWI is even giving me goosebumps. Now, holy cow, they
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  Speaker 3: did it.
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  Speaker 2: They actually delivered. So it was everybody was in tears. Man, Nick,
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  Speaker 2: fans were a mess.
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  Speaker 3: It was. It was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: How did this trip come about? It was the last
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  Speaker 1: minute thing for you.
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  Speaker 2: No, I had thought about it. First of all, was
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  Speaker 2: on a Saturday. So now it's in play, right. All
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  Speaker 2: I gotta do is the hardest part. Like people think like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: how much did you pay for tickets?
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  Speaker 3: How'd you get the flights? The hardest part was getting
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  Speaker 3: the pay your approofal for my wife.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, it was right. It's a weekend. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she needs help for crying.
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  Speaker 2: Out last And as we talked about it last week,
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  Speaker 2: I was in Saratoga at Belmont, so this is now
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  Speaker 2: back to back weekends. But my friend and I were
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  Speaker 2: talking about it, and I'm like, man, if.
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  Speaker 3: It were I would not have been going obviously far
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  Speaker 3: as throw.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that your team has a chance to
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  Speaker 2: win a championship to me, knowing that it was a
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  Speaker 2: possibility to go, I could not pass it up.
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  Speaker 3: And we got squeezed out.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think locals, non locals couldn't buy tickets, so
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  Speaker 2: then we were just like out forget it. Then my
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  Speaker 2: buddy called me again on Thursdays, like, why aren't we
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  Speaker 2: going again? I'm gonna come over and watch the game,
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  Speaker 2: And it was like, all right, let's try it again,
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  Speaker 2: and then we did. We found a way around it
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  Speaker 2: and made the trip happen, and thank god we did.
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  Speaker 1: How close were you to you wing to Oakley to
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  Speaker 1: all those guys, I'm not trying to, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: figure out how much you spent on tickets, and.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you no, we had a good seat.
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  Speaker 2: It was not center court, but it wasn't behind the
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  Speaker 2: basket or an angle, but it was the upper level.
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  Speaker 2: It was like row five in the upper level. It
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  Speaker 2: was like thirteen hundred bucks a seat, which I don't
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  Speaker 2: think is bad ticket price. They were like I was
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  Speaker 2: expecting to pay between fifteen and two thousand basically to
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  Speaker 2: get in. But they started to come down and come down,
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  Speaker 2: and then we pulled the trigger on with all It
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  Speaker 2: was a good value, decent seat, thirteen hundred per perceed.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, think about it too.
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  Speaker 2: I forget the exact total of the flight, but roughly,
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  Speaker 2: let's just say two grand per person. If you talk
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  Speaker 2: about the flight and ticket that's a friend, It's basically
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  Speaker 2: nothing I would have paid if I were able to
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  Speaker 2: get access to tickets through a friend for Game six,
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  Speaker 2: it would have been two thousand anyway, So like to
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  Speaker 2: see the next that is priceless.
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  Speaker 3: So I ended up getting lucky with the prices.
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  Speaker 4: So where does this rank in terms of moments in
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  Speaker 4: New York sports history?
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  Speaker 3: For you? The greatest?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'd love to just discuss this with
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  Speaker 2: you guys here. Okay, here's the thing. If you're a
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  Speaker 2: Yankee fan, does this mean more than ninety six? Let's say,
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  Speaker 2: does this mean more than the great run in ninety
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  Speaker 2: eight or finishing off the Mets in two thousand and
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: having the four and five years whatever it is that dynasty.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a Giants fan who saw ELI beat the
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  Speaker 2: undefeated Patriots, beat the Patriots again have those two Super bowls?
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  Speaker 2: Does this mean more? Here's why? So like for me, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: it's the greatest thing I've ever seen But here's why
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  Speaker 2: I do think it is is if not the biggest,
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  Speaker 2: it's certainly one of the biggest, and probably bigger than
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  Speaker 2: all those I just reference. Is because it's been a
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  Speaker 2: fifty three year drought and it's the one team in
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  Speaker 2: New York that unifies everybody. Yeah, even with the Rangers
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  Speaker 2: in ninety four, it's Rangers Islanders devil. There's a three
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  Speaker 2: way split, Jets, Giants split, Mets, Yankee split.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, there is no split here.
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  Speaker 2: This is all Knicks, which is why I think that
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  Speaker 2: it does make it, if not the biggest, certainly one
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  Speaker 2: of the biggest effort.
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  Speaker 1: I think the only thing you can compare it to
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  Speaker 1: is the year the Rangers won the Stanley Cup with
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  Speaker 1: Mark Messier. I'm not certain there's that, Like the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: have been so good for so long that ninety six
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  Speaker 1: while exciting. While that run while exciting, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: expected with the Yankees. The Rangers were on a similar
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  Speaker 1: type draft won it with Messia won it and you know,
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  Speaker 1: crazy fashion, nail biting stuff. So I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing you can compare to it. But to your point,
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  Speaker 1: only half the population of New York cares about the Rangers,
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks. It's the the entire population of the Tri
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  Speaker 1: State area basically cares about this basketball team.
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  Speaker 3: What's wild is that.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the main thing in ninety four was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Islander fans would always chant nineteen forty, so that
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  Speaker 2: number always stuck in everybody's head and however many years
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  Speaker 2: it was, and then you get to the fifty four years,
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  Speaker 2: but that was not the primary theme with this nixt team.
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  Speaker 3: We knew it was a long time, but you never heard.
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  Speaker 2: The chance of nineteen seventy three. You never heard the
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't about wow, fifty years. It became that as
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  Speaker 2: we got closer to the end here. But yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: was a divide. Part of the appeal with the Rangers
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  Speaker 2: was the fifty four year drought was because the Islander
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  Speaker 2: fans been chanting nineteen forty forever. Yeah, so that's local
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  Speaker 2: on local crime there. With the Knick fan there wasn't
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  Speaker 2: any of that. It was just they've been bad for
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  Speaker 2: so long. They haven't been in the finals in twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven years, and obviously they haven't won, but fifty three
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  Speaker 2: year drought basically the same thing. Messia came and ended
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: the fifty four year drought. Jalen Brunson came and ended
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  Speaker 2: a fifty three year drought.
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  Speaker 1: With Salakott talking smack to any San Antonio Spurs fans
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  Speaker 1: or what they were.
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  Speaker 3: I was respectful going in.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, was a little afraid about retaliation, and
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  Speaker 2: there was that sentiment down there in San Antonio from
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  Speaker 2: some people. Most people were very kind and welcome to
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  Speaker 2: the city, good luck. Even after the win. Hey, we'll
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  Speaker 2: buy you guys some drinks. It was very nice. But
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  Speaker 2: there were some people that saw the videos on social
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  Speaker 2: media with the Nick fans ripping off Spurs fans jerseys,
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  Speaker 2: and they were looking for retribution. So at the game,
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  Speaker 2: I was I'm respectful. Now, I was intense and cheering,
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  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but I wasn't going at any
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  Speaker 2: Spurs fans Until the night afterward.
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  Speaker 3: We're waiting outside from Uber.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just on Cloud nine Nick fans celebrating tears emotions,
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  Speaker 2: and there was one Spurs fan who comes by, this
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  Speaker 2: older dude, and we weren't saying anything. We're just standing
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  Speaker 2: there on a Knicks gear and he's like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, do you get five?
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  Speaker 1: Wait?
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  Speaker 3: Do you get five?
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  Speaker 1: That guy?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm like, bro, you think anybody cares
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  Speaker 3: about five? Right now?
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  Speaker 2: We just be you sound like Wemby. Go take those
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  Speaker 2: sour grapes somewhere else. We don't care about By.
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  Speaker 3: We just beat you for this one. That's all I
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  Speaker 3: care about. I don't care if they win ever again.
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  Speaker 4: And so what what that guy doesn't understand one title
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  Speaker 4: in New York equals ten titles in San Antonio.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we have more than they did.
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  Speaker 3: That's all right, you nailed it. Gives me goosebumps.
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  Speaker 2: Not to mention that the Knicks have three all time anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not that far behind. But yeah, it's it
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  Speaker 2: was my Lebron theory, Like Lebron can win as many
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  Speaker 2: as he wants with the Heat or the Lakers, but
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  Speaker 2: his one in Cleveland will forever mean way more than that.
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  Speaker 2: If you win one with the Knicks, man, oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, that five should be like ten
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  Speaker 1: considering the players they had. I mean, what is he
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  Speaker 1: talking about? Right to Wenby, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, bro, read the room. I understand you're upset.
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  Speaker 2: But and then my producers have got in a little
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: bit of trouble because now it's a different animal down
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: there in Texas. And we forgot where we were for
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  Speaker 2: a second until we were reminded.
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  Speaker 1: So this guy, you gotta be careful down there.
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  Speaker 2: You did, You're you're not getting so like that guy
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  Speaker 2: says that to me, I'm like, why don't you like
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: get addie here, man?
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  Speaker 3: And then he starts chirping.
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  Speaker 2: My producer says something, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: before we know it, some cop.
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  Speaker 3: On a horse comes flying over.
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  Speaker 2: To us, get to my producer's faces, like you better
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  Speaker 2: watch it if you if you don't clean it up,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna be waiting over there. And we're like, oh, okay, sorry, officer.
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  Speaker 2: But like the point was, they're clearly a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the you know, San Antonio Ones, whatever you call them,
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  Speaker 2: the Spurs. They were not happy that New Yorkers were
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  Speaker 2: down there and taken over and celebrating a championship.
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  Speaker 1: So Taylor is right. The next time a fan says
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  Speaker 1: to you, hed, get to five, you say, hey, get
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  Speaker 1: to ten.
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  Speaker 2: They follow the Wemby's crying, Mitch Johnson making excuses.
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  Speaker 3: Somehow, I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we know about Kenny Atkinson, and analytically the
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  Speaker 2: Cavs won that series. Okay, great, and Now, the Spurs
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  Speaker 2: dominated this series. They dominated this series, yet they couldn't
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  Speaker 2: push it to a six game. They didn't win a
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  Speaker 2: home game. I mean at some domination by the Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: Tip of the cap to Mitch Johnson and Wemby.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, is Brunson better than Wembin Yama?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you heard it here first, I told you Stu,
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  Speaker 2: I would not have traded I said it before, before
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  Speaker 2: even the Spurs were a matchup.
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  Speaker 3: I believe we had that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I said I would not trade Jalen Brunson for anybody,
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  Speaker 2: even Wemby. And this is why, because it's not that
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  Speaker 2: he's better than Wemby, although I believe that he is.
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  Speaker 2: As far as the heart goes and as far as
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  Speaker 2: being a leader goes, and being unselfish and being mature,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: but winning with Jalen Brunson, nothing will beat that this
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: guy gets.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: He is. He is the perfect embodiment of everything you
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: would want.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: It's Rocky vers Sdrago.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: He's rocky, He's got the heart. He's been an underdog
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: his whole life. People keep doubting him.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: He won multiple national championships and people still doubt him.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: And then he had to go out there and shut
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: everybody up and wins a national and that wins an
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: NBA title, and now it's well, it's an easy path,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: rough and easy what it was supposed to be. Oh,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the East was weak and they're not gonna be dispersed
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: and Wemby's impossible. And I know how great Wenby is,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: and I will say that, like, I've never seen a
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: singular player impact the game from a defensive standpoint the
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: way that Wemby does.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: It's just remarkable to see. Yeah. But but yeah, Brunton
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: was my guy.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I believed in him as having the heart of a champion,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: and I would I would never trade this and the
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: whole way that it panned out for for anybody or
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: any anything.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Uh, Taylor put it on the poll. You heard it
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: here first, Hue. That'd be the name of a new podcast, Taylor.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just gonna.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Say that name not taken yet.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: A quick stat off off sALS points, Jalen Brunson averaged
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: thirty two point six per game in the NBA Finals.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: It's set the record for the highest scoring average by
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: a point guard in NBA Finals history, and.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Forty five in the closeout.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Amazing, dude, And that's what I kept yelling there as
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: it was intense down the stretch, I'm like, you're this closed,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: like close them out, close them out.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: And that's what this team did.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: They closed out the Hawks to get things started in
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: that first round and blew them out of the water
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: in that game six, closed out the Sixers, no game
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: five sweep, close out the Cap no game five sweep,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: and then they had the Spurs on the ropes here,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: closed them out in their building. Just an unbelievable player, unbelievable, closer,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: as clutch as you could possibly be. He took that
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: game five over without him. Like the Nicks have done
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: a great job being a good team throughout this run,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Brunton took over game. It was the perfect ending to
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: a perfect Storybrook storybook postseason run.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: How was your wife during the weekend? Did you try
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: to ruin the weekend, you know, create a little stress anything, Yes, yes.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: So like this flat Yes, the night of There's two examples.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you The night of and I was
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: emotional and I was thinking about her brother, unfortunately, who
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: passed away, and he was a Knicks fan, so I
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: was a little set about that and felt bad for her.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: But and then I'm testing with her about that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Instead of it being like, oh my god, this is great,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: it was more like I'm alone, I'm lonely, and I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: kind of ignored that. And then it goes from that
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: to Sunday, where I was like, Okay, the game is
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: over and now it's back to business.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Get your rear end back here. Maddix. My dog has
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: a grooming appointment at ten and I'm.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Like, look, we got flights like I'm o Land until
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: one am and ended up getting pushed back.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't get home until four thirty in the morning.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: She didn't care.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: It wasn't I wasn't taking a chance saying over in Nashville, Ortlanta.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I needed to make sure I got home because if
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't take Maddex for the groomer by ten thirty.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I was gonna be in big trouble year, right.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, just what you need. After the Knicks winn
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: an NBA championship, I mean back to reality.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on the high. I just seen the
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Knicks win a championship in San Antonio. Everything is great.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Breakfast of champions, brunt of champions, flights of champions, having
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: drinks at the airport last night, back to reality.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I come home.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: It's hey, Maddix needs to be dropped off at ten thirty.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Samy's got to be dropped off at school at eleven fifty.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't even have a second to enjoy it. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: want to go back to San Antonio. I'd rather deal
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: with those guys getting on.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Me an old man who came out afterwards.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Right, stud, It's been my mantra all weekend. It's a
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: long off season now. I think it's an even longer
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: off season for Sal.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: He's got to make up for the last two weeks.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Oh man, Sal, I do not envy your position right now.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I know I'm already thinking bron Zoo water Park on
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the nineteenth. We're off, so something's got to happen. You're right,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: but but I wouldn't trade it for the world. I'm
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: thankful that she didn't put up resistant because look, the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: truth is, I was going to this game regardless she
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: could have said no, and I'm still I'm not. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: this is why can you imagine I'm telling you right now,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: if I didn't.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Go to that game, yeah, and because of.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Her and I saw that happen, I would have got
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: a divorce like that would have been the end.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I would have never forgiven her for that ever, So
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I'm glad it happened. I'm glad it worked here.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: If you didn't get Maddix to the place by two thirty,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you would have had a divorce.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Sorry, hon, Every time I look at you, all I
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: see is the LARRYO.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and I want it more right. I've
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: wanted that for forty years. You come on, there is
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: no replacing Lario.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I can find it another wife somewhere.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: And so I'm wondering if you're having the same problem
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I'm having Right now, I'm scrolling on social media and
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: anybody putting out something that even resembles a Knicks Finals championshirt,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: whether it's forty seven brand, whether it's New Error, whether
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: it's Fanatics or Nike or some of these local shops
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: to New York. I am buying everything right now. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: am addicted to pressing ad to cart.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I am obsessed.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I was doing it yesterday at the airport where we're
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: just scrolling through the fanatics that have did you see
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: the Larry O'Brian replica trophy? And oh I got yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks. Dude, I'm like, oh, I
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: gotta get one for me. You want for my friendly? Yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I know it's a lot. I didn't buy it. I
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: don't want the championship shirt because you mentioned it's not
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: it's ugly, but still I want the hat. I do
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: like the locker room so you're right, he can't get
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: enough of right now.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: It's on fire.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to buy an authentic Brunton jersey with the
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: finals patch that sold out the lines at the gardener ridiculous.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing people post on the lines of the NBA
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: stores ridiculously. The Knicks are as hot a commodity right
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: now as I have ever seen crazy thing.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. They're everywhere.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be able tonight show all this stuff, but like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: people can't get.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: It up my wife.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: There's another with my wife. You better make sure you
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: bring us back something from San Antonio. I'm like, all right, well,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: what do you want?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: How about a.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Brunts and shirt? But I don't think you know how
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: this works.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We're in San Antonio there they're.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Shirt right then I can't get them here. This is
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: San Antonio. They just have Nicks pop up shops here.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, she wanted a brunts and shirt back from
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: San Antonio.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But it shows you how out of touch, like she
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: has no idea and yet she's caught up in it
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: with the brunts and stuff, like everybody wants to rep
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Bronts and now yeah it's yeah, I'll see if they
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: have it at the airport in Austin.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe they have some Knicks merch there. Yes, Oh my god.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like everyone ows, and I mean everyone including
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the guys at w FAM.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: We've discussed this, but Karl Anthony.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Towns is deserving of an apology from all of New
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: York City. Fair.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I think that's more than fair because we we joke
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: about Dolan or the Knicks as a whole. I don't
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: think any individual player, and Bridges was along those lines,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: but not as bad as Cat. You know, people were
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: nuts about the picks for Bridges.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I want I'm.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Still nuts about it, by the way, I mean just.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Saying there you go.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: But Cat people people, I mean people personally went at Kat,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: questioning his toughness, his manhood, like and this guy's an
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: NBA champion and he played his ar Randolph. I know
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: it wasn't great in the last three games of this series,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: but the first two games without those Nicks obviously don't win.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So you're right. Nobody involved with the New.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: York Knicks is owed more of an apology than Karl
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Anthony Towns. H.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Taylor feels like this was a championship that was won
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: for all the players before this team, So he's including
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like Quincy Ac, do you feel the same way, because
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I don't Ewing. I understand Starks, I understand all those guys.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I understand Uh, forget about the last twenty years. They
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: deserve nothing.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be honest and say that even when
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I saw Ewing and now I love the nineties Knicks,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: not as much as this team anymore, but it was
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: weird for me, like Ewing didn't win the championship. He
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: did so having him stand there with Brunson. While it
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: was cool, it's Brunson's trophy, Ewing's team couldn't do that,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and I think it it. I like the fact that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: it does represent all the era, certainly from a fan standpoint,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: like we watched all these different teams and now this
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: is the final piece that puts it all together. But
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: this team earned it, not those players, even though they
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: were at these games. So yeah, I'm kind of in
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: between on it. It's a part of Knick's history. They
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: did it for all those years that all those teams
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that couldn't do it. But I also don't need to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: see Ewing or really anybody else taking pictures with Larry
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Oh while this Knicks team is the one that won it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So I said that earlier this morning, the guys looked
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: at me funny. Now sala is saying it fellas like
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you get with this, like because I had the same
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: exact take, like, hey, Patrick, you still haven't won an
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: NBA title.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think part of it is Patrick Ewing wasn't
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: even available for the nine NBA finals, So I think
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: he's looking at it twenty seven years later being like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I know, Patrick Ewing doesn't think he contributed to this team.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Now Patrick Ewing is just looking at it, saying, these
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: guys finished the story for us. These guys went to
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: the place where we lost in nineteen ninety nine and
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: reversed the script on San Antonio.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Sala I will tell you what I saw from Patrick
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Ewing was an outpouring of emotion. It showed just how
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: bad he felt that he couldn't get it done with
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: his nixt teams and how much relief it gives him
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that someone eventually got it done because he knows how
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: much it means to the Tri State area.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: All right, but do you really think he feels that
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: way or does he feel like Man, I really wish
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I could have delivered.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Now, I love Ewing.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, yesterday I wore the Starks
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: jersey to the game, but I wore my Ewing jersey yesterday.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So I love him.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: And if he truly does feel like that, I'm happy
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: for him obviously. But it's just a weird You got
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to earn that thing you did, and he unfold it
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: wasn't his fault, but their team wasn't good enough to
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: earn it in ninety three, ninety four, they were banged up,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: in ninety nine, they just were not good enough with
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the Spurs. So yeah, is it nice for anybody who's
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: a part of the Knicks. I mean, you got a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: mom chumper putting on the jersey dancing. Now everybody wants
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: to be a Nick like now and now everybody's proud
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: of our test or whoever else all these guys that
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: nobody would even remember, and not to be disrespectful of all.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about, Like now everybody wants
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: to be a nick.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It's cool now to be a nick, and Ewing is
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a different level nick. But those guys didn't deliver. So
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to me, it should be always about this team that
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: did deliver.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: It's a cool moment.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe the one tie is that Brunton was around that
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: team as a kid because his father was on it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: So correct, that's a that's a great time. But I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: don't look at Patrick Ewing any differently, whether he poses
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: with Larry Oh or not. He didn't win it, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I do think that it should just be about this team.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: And you're not viewing Ewing as a champion all of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a sudden nostill.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: He's still got be by a team. He still missed
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a fing all, they still came up short ninety nine.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Like I lived through it. I remember it, so yes,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: you know it to me was a little I don't know.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: It's great if you want to feel that way, that's fine.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I just didn't need to see.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Well, now, what's funny about this conversation is it doesn't
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: matter how we feel although we'll pick it apart because
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: it's sports radio, it only matters if Jalen Brunson wants
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to share it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: With Patrick Ewing, and he did right and I'm sure
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: he does. If I were Brunson, I would do the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: same thing. Bronston's gotta feel great. He's got his, but
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: he now there's no doubt anymore that he surpasses Youing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I would always say Ewing was the greatest Nick that
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I know Clyde from many people, they
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: would say the wal Clyde Fraser is their favorite, the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: best nick that they've ever seen. I thought it was
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: even before the championship that Brunton surpassed Youing and now
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: by a landslide, Jalen Brunson is the greatest Nick that
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: So is there anything Aaron Judge could do to get
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: the King of New York title back?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Nope, Yeah, I'm with stew on this. I don't think so, Taylor.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: It's different when you do it like how many how
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: many would Judge have to win with the Yankees to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: equal this one by Brunson and the Knicks. And I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: don't even think that there's an if he won five
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: in a row.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean brunts won.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, right, exactly right with this, this one
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: equals ten.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: That means Judge would have to win ten in a row.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And even then when you end a drought like that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and do it with with the Knicks, as we talked about,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you know one table like the Knicks are, they are it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: They are the premier team in this town. When they
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: are good. Nothing can match it because of the unifier here.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't think there's anything Judge could hit seventy
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: five homers go nuts in the postseason.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: The Yankees could go undefeated.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: In the postseason with Judge hitting five hundred along the way,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: and it's still would not compare to what Jalen brunts.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: And listen, you guys are prisoner of the moment, no way,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge's star power is so far beyond
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson. If he were to go to the World Series,
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: win the World Series, and be MVP of the World
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: Series carrying it, we're having the discussion all over again.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, we like absolutely.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I normally find myself some your corner. You know, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: when you come to your corner, you normally could find
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: me right there for you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Not true.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But are you saying, are you his cut guy? What
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: are you? What are you doing? The corner man.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I'm in there, I'm in there. I'm looking at his face.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: We're rubbing vasoline on it on.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It's just star power, right, yeah, you're get the puffiness
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: out of his eyes.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: We got it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, right now, Mikey is coming back after this round
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: and he's looking at his opponent, and I'm with the
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: opponent right now because I'm not with my drag.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I gotcha. Listen, you're prisoner of the moment.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I expected from you today, this week, I expected this month,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: I expected from you come October. If that were to happen,
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you the star power that Judge has versus
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson, Jalen Brunson did something.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That he will never buy another drink of New York again.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: But the star power, it's it's not matched.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: This is what Sally's trying to say. And he's exactly
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: right about this. If indeed the Yankees win a World
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Series and Judges the World Series MVP, half of New
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: York won't be celebrating it. Shipple out in sag Halboro
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: on Long Island will not be celebrating that the Yankees
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: won a World Series. People in Port Washington, where I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: grew up, will not be happy that the Yankees want
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to win. Half the New York population will not be
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: happy that the Yankees won a World Series. This captured
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: all of New York, and it's the only team that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: can capture all of New York.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: And I think I think for two reasons this one
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: stands alone that which you just mentioned. It's the only
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: team that can capture all of New York plus the drought.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So if you ask me, like, okay, well, what could
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: be the next thing, right I told get to this
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: similar level, I think it will be the Jets winning
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. So let's say, let's say hypothetically whatever
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: star quarterback day pick Arch Manning just hypothetically comes here
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and turns the Jets into a Super Bowl winner.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: It's still not going to be all of New York.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: But because of the drought, because they've been a laughing
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: stock for so long, that's the only thing that might
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: be able to come close. The Mets can't come close
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: to it, even though it's been forty years for them.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: The Yankees, because it hasn't been that long for them.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I don't even I just don't think it compare even
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: with the star power of Aaron.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Judge, right, and I don't feel like we're being prisoners
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of the moment. Mikey, I understand what you're saying. I'm
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: just saying, the Yankees have such a tradition of winning,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: it's almost expected there. This was so unexpected. It was
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: so unexpected that this group of players would be the players,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: three kids who played at Villanova would be the three
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: guys that would lead this team to an NBA title,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a team that had Patrick Ewick. I mean, it's crazy.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Team for team, you're gonna win player for player. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: think I think I think the star power is bigger.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: All Right, we agree to disagree.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I guess it is.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: It is something to think about.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Like, I understand why you're saying you has Brunton been
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: that level player in his career in the regular season
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that Judge has been pound for about He's not. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter when you talk about, like King of
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: New York, Jalen, Why be a king when you could
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: be a guy?
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson is a New York sports god.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is Messy a jeter Eli and I think
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Brunton surpasses them because he did it with one team
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that unifies this city. I'm even for me, My guy
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: was always Messier, like, oh my god, Messier came here,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: ended the drought delivering Stanley Cup. You could see the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: relief in his face as he holds up Lord Stanley's Cup.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: This surpasses that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: It's it's hard to explain, but because it's the unifier,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: because of the drought, the Knicks and all the stuff
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that we've suffered over the last thirty forty fifty years,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think even the greatness of Aaron Judge could
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: come close to what Bruntson has done.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And because this was a guy that wasn't supposed to
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: be able to do it, you have to factor that
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: in Ewing was expected to win a title, Judge expected
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to win championships and MVPs. No one expected this from
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Jleb Brunson, Nobody including the team he was on before
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the next the Dallas Mavericks. So I mean no one expected.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: It, and Mikey knows. Again I'm always on Mikey's side.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: This feels like we walked into the set of First take.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Somebody pitched the topic and was like, hey, we need
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: somebody on the other side. Straws, straws. Mikey drew the
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: straw there.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, he had to.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Defend Aaron Judge in this scenario.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Because he knows he's well. Mikey is a big sports fan.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: He knows very well that he's on the wrong side
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of this argument.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I know he does well because he hasn't done it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I mean it's hard.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: It's hard to say if he goes and does all
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: that stuff when he hasn't, so it's hard.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: To Yeah, because I'm thinking about it, the Yankees could
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: be down three to zero to the Boston Red Sox
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: in the ALCS and Aaron Judge could hit four walk
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: off home runs, yeah, in four consecutive games the center
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: of the World Series, and then you sweep the Dodgers
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: four to oh where Aaron Judge bats five hundred like
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: South says, and he hit four walk off home runs again,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: which is even impossible, because now that I'm thinking about it,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: you can't hit a walk off home run.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I lost my point.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: No, we get your larger point. He could have the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: World Series of World series against the right teams. Alcs
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: then into the World Series, beat the Red Sox, beat
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Have seventeen home runs. The cords of those
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: eight games sweep both teams, and Brunton would still be
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a bigger start.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: In hindsight, It's hard for Aaron Judge to hit a
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: walk off home run at Fenway Park, correct.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I do think. I think your point, though, is an
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: excellent one to further it. So it's not just the unifier,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: it's not just the drought. It's also a guy that
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: was an.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: Underdog that was doubted his whole life. Yeah, that makes
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: it even more special. Like exactly, he embodies this city perfectly.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: It doesn't get any more perfect than this. It doesn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: get any better than this. This is the most perfect
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: script you could possibly write. I wasn't sure that it
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: was going to end the right way.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: You could see it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: This team played like a champion from the first postseason
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: game on. We hoped it would be the case, the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: natural ascension and climb with Jalen Brunson, But he finished
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the story, the storybook, ending the perfect script, writing whatever
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you want to say, but all of it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Because of who he is.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Taking less money to make his team better, all of it,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: everybody doubting of all of it. Doing it with his
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: college teammates just incredible. I don't I really don't think
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: it can be it can be matched.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: All Right, we have a new game here. One statue
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: in front of the Mecca. Okay, you can only choose one,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: all right, Jalen Brunson just being Jalen Brunson or OG's
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: tip in at the end of game four.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Which one? Yeah, I would go Jalen Brunson.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I think I think O G fully extended tipping that
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: ball in, though, man, I mean, I.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Know that's a moment forever. Actually that's not a bad one.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I still think while we're playing the game, I gotta
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: stick to the game.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Was one.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I want to see a messier statue out there with
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the cup. I get what you're saying. I would still got.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: The tip is such a legendary play.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I think it would be.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Cool to see that and be like, oh, that's the
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: play that you know whatever, O G. But I still
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: think you gotta go Jalen Brunson. I just think he
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: deserves it more.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Did I take it too far by telling Michael Jordan's
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: statue to go f itself and that we won the title.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: When I walked past the United Center yesterday today.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Did you I actually told my buddy that I was
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: with in San Antonio. He was flying through Chicago for business.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I go, dude, you gotta go take a picture in
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: front of that Jordan statue.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: And we were thinking along the same lines. I love
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: it you.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: We may not get to taste this championship, but we
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: can say screw you, Reggie, screw you Michael, all those guys,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: all those villains, it is.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: It's for you. Take that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: So this is how crazy this story is making me.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to statues. Okay, the Salicatta Show, wherever you
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: get your podcasts, go repair your relationship with your wife.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I hope it works out. Thank you, guys, appreciate it.