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The Late Debate | 10 December · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lateens General, welcome the Late Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, it's great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Joe Hildebrand and Liz Storer. A
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  Speaker 3: lot coming up tonight, including the top ten things that
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  Speaker 3: Australians googled in twenty twenty four. Will give you the
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  Speaker 3: list and you can see how you compared to your neighbors. Plus,
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  Speaker 3: when we look at what's making news tomorrow, the federal
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  Speaker 3: government to introduce a flat fee for childcare.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about whether or not that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: And the rest of a Tasmanian man on child exploitation
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  Speaker 3: charges leads to the freeing of six children in the Philippines.
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  Speaker 2: All of that when we get to tomorrow's news. But
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  Speaker 2: you remember back.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two when six women working together but
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  Speaker 3: claiming to be independent one formerly safe liberal seats calling
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  Speaker 3: themselves the Teals. Now, of course Teal is you know,
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  Speaker 3: liberal blue with just a tinge of green because we're
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  Speaker 3: worried about the climate. Well, by now everybody knows that
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  Speaker 3: the Teals are absolute greens all the way through.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, they're greens in all but name.
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  Speaker 3: Recent analysis published today in the Daily Telegraph shows the
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  Speaker 3: Teals voted so often with the Greens as to be
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  Speaker 3: barely indistinguishable.
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  Speaker 2: I have a look at these voting patterns.
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  Speaker 3: Minick Ryan, for instance, from Kuyong, she voted seventy seven
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  Speaker 3: percent of the time in alignment with the Greens. Or
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  Speaker 3: what about Zali Stegel from worringa seventy five percent of
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  Speaker 3: the time that she voted she was aligned with the
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  Speaker 3: Greens party. But Zoe Daniel and Sophie Scamps, well it
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  Speaker 3: was eighty one percent of the time for them, and
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  Speaker 3: the winner coming in at ninety four percent is North
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  Speaker 3: Sydney MP Kylie Tink. Now, Kylie Tink did amuse me
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  Speaker 3: when confronted with these voting patterns. She said, on one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent of occasions. Now, remember ninety four percent of
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  Speaker 3: the time she voted with the Greens. But on one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent of occasions, I've voted in a way that
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  Speaker 3: is consistent with my community's expectations and ambitions. Which makes
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  Speaker 3: you wonder why didn't her community just elect the Green
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  Speaker 3: I suspect they did. Actually, just on that she's voted
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  Speaker 3: ninety four percent of.
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  Speaker 2: The time with the Greens.
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  Speaker 3: You want to know what percentage of votes the Greens
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  Speaker 3: got in her seat back in twenty twenty two eight
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  Speaker 3: point five percent.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 3: The people of North Sydney did not get what they
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  Speaker 3: were voting for. If the Body Snatches replaced Kylie Think
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  Speaker 3: with Adam bad I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure anybody would know the difference.
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  Speaker 3: The Teals lives are basically Greens but with more expensive lipstick.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: And I love that these guys still call themselves independent.
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  Speaker 1: Where they're voting record shows well, at least according to
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  Speaker 1: these numbers.
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  Speaker 4: They're voting as a block.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of the time at lease, So are
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  Speaker 1: you really independent? And of course siding with the Greens,
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  Speaker 1: which comes as no surprise because while they were quite
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  Speaker 1: an e known quantity at the last election, which was
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  Speaker 1: their first election, we all knew that a large chunk
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  Speaker 1: of their funding was coming from Simon Holmes a courts
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  Speaker 1: Climate two hundreds. So these guys almost solely no other issue.
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  Speaker 1: They were like single issue candidates. It was all about
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  Speaker 1: the climate. And it's going to be incredibly interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see how they go now that the climate politically has
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  Speaker 1: changed a lot and people are far more concerned about
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  Speaker 1: cost of living crisis, the cost of energy, things going forward,
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  Speaker 1: including education, you name it.
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  Speaker 4: The climate has taken.
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  Speaker 1: A back seat as people have realized more and more
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  Speaker 1: of these last few years of the Albanese government just
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  Speaker 1: how much their attention to climate is hitting their hip pocket.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel that they're going.
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  Speaker 1: To have just different priorities heading in to the election
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  Speaker 1: next year.
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  Speaker 5: I've got a feeling that you might be right, Liz,
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  Speaker 5: And there is some interesting.
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  Speaker 1: This is a red day, ladies and gentlemen, I'm riding,
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  Speaker 1: I'm no hill agree to.
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  Speaker 5: Sheer visceral loathing of both the Greens and the Teals.
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  Speaker 5: You and I are on a unity ticket. And there
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  Speaker 5: are a couple of funny things about this story, and
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  Speaker 5: and lots of fun little rabbit holes. You can of
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  Speaker 5: course get all the insights down brand every Day podcast.
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  Speaker 5: But firstly, there is no seat of North Sydney anymore.
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  Speaker 5: There is no Sydney MB distribution Kyllia Tink anymore, because
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  Speaker 5: of course the Australian Electoral Commission has redistributed the boundaries
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  Speaker 5: and the seat disappears, and so that's all fine, that's
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  Speaker 5: all well and good.
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  Speaker 6: So so she's not going to run against whatever.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, So whatever outrageous sort of twist of fate
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  Speaker 5: was forced upon the good, peaceful Burghers of North Sydney,
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  Speaker 5: that is going to be removed. So the Green they
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  Speaker 5: accidentally elected is no more now. A lot of people said,
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  Speaker 5: Kylie a teak, you should go and run in the
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  Speaker 5: seat of Bradfield, which is just next to North Sydney
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  Speaker 5: and where most of that electorate has gone to, and
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  Speaker 5: she has said no. She is said instead that she's
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  Speaker 5: going to back the candidate who lost in Bradfield last time, who.
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  Speaker 6: Is Daniella Boina I think is her name.
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  Speaker 5: Who set up a shadow electorate office with Simon Holmes
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  Speaker 5: and Courts backing. So she actually has effectively refused to
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  Speaker 5: concede the electure.
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  Speaker 6: She's got a bit Donald Trumps. I'm not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going anywhere lost.
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  Speaker 5: But she said up on an election, but she set
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  Speaker 5: up an electric office anyway, as if she was the
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  Speaker 5: man bab. We've got stupid shadow on the front of
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  Speaker 5: it as well. And so Kylieting has now said she's
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  Speaker 5: not going to run in the city. She's going to
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  Speaker 5: fall back, fall on her sword and support Daniel Boanna's campaign,
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  Speaker 5: which means that the teals are punishing the person who
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  Speaker 5: won and rewarding the person who lost, which is strange.
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  Speaker 5: But things are only in getting better because the five
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  Speaker 5: MPs mentioned in this story, the five tier MPs are
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  Speaker 5: only five of the seven tier MPs, who of course
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  Speaker 5: occupy the House of Representatives. The other two Legraspender and
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  Speaker 5: the seat of Wentworth and Kate Cheney a s in
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  Speaker 5: wa thin it's called curtain and those and Paul Fletcher,
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  Speaker 5: the Member for Bradfield, just announce is going to resign,
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  Speaker 5: which could pose a headache for Peter Dutton because they
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  Speaker 5: no longer have the incumbent advantage. But Paul Fletcher in
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  Speaker 5: September put out the same research of how these guys
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  Speaker 5: voted right and again a Legraspender and Kate Cheney were
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  Speaker 5: on the bottom still the overwhelming majority of the time,
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  Speaker 5: but in the sort of mid to low seventies. Now,
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  Speaker 5: if you think about the things that Liz is talking about,
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  Speaker 5: how the world's kind of changed a little bit since
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. The number one economic issue cost of living,
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  Speaker 5: and the number one social issue community disintegration and.
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  Speaker 6: Conflict over the war in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 5: So you have a Legraspender, who lives is the teal
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  Speaker 5: with probably the highest proportion of Jewish voters in her electorate.
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  Speaker 5: And then you have Kate Cheney, who is the only
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  Speaker 5: teal in the most resource dependent state in Australia. And
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  Speaker 5: what happens to all these high ideals, what happens to
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  Speaker 5: climate change being the most catastrophic cataclysmic.
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  Speaker 6: World ending event.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it seems just by a few percentage points to
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  Speaker 5: have dissipated because they don't seem to be finding as
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  Speaker 5: much common ground with the Greens.
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  Speaker 6: A Legraspender, I'm pretty sure it.
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  Speaker 5: Is smart enough to know that any association that she
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  Speaker 5: has with the Greens, given their outrageous anti Israel center,
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  Speaker 5: and given the fact that they have refused to condemn
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  Speaker 5: active vandalism at Australian War Memorial things like that, have
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  Speaker 5: been equivocating on Israel. They have provided false equivalents between
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  Speaker 5: Israel and Hamas. We all know they're crazy candidates. A
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  Speaker 5: local said the IDEF was worse than ISO. Worst IDF
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  Speaker 5: Israel defense pots is worse than isis Let's do some
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  Speaker 5: focus groups on how that goes down in Double Bay.
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  Speaker 6: Probably not too good, I would have.
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  Speaker 5: Thought, and again, Kate Channey knows that in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of the cost of Of course he comes from one
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  Speaker 5: of the leafier, nice little seats, I mean, wa But
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  Speaker 5: this is a state whose entire fortunes basically rest on
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  Speaker 5: the mining industry. And suddenly, when everything's going fine and
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  Speaker 5: everyone's rolling along, you can kind of sort of think, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: maybe we should think about the climate, but.
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  Speaker 6: That some of them things get tough. Maybe my constituents
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't be too happy if.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing I don't understand about the Teals and
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  Speaker 3: Liz you alluded to this is you know, they came
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two promising transparency and honesty and integrity
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  Speaker 3: in politics.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they were going to be the bat They were
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  Speaker 1: going to be the light on the hill, the light
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  Speaker 1: on the hill of Australian politics.
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  Speaker 4: Everything that was wrong with the Australian government. They were
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  Speaker 4: going to be the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the problem with their transparency and integrity. They
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  Speaker 3: claim to be independents, but they vote together, they hold
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  Speaker 3: press comfferences together, they have one common source of funding,
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  Speaker 3: their advertising is all identical under the same banner, and
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  Speaker 3: yet they keep insisting, no, no, we're not a political
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  Speaker 3: party and therefore are exempt from the restrictions that normally
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  Speaker 3: associated with a party. They operate as independence when it's
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  Speaker 3: clear to everybody they're not, while comforting integrity and transparency.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how they have gotten away with that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, people elected them not knowing what they were
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  Speaker 4: in for.
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  Speaker 1: Four years later, people know what they're in for, and
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  Speaker 1: I dare say they aren't going to do as well
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  Speaker 1: at the next election. Probably many people can see that themselves,
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  Speaker 1: in particular in the tea leaves coming up to the
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  Speaker 1: next election, either in April or May of next year.
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  Speaker 1: I imagine they're getting quite nervous to the States. Now, we're
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  Speaker 1: a Jewish company by the name of Simon Weissenthal Center
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  Speaker 1: has released advisory for Australia following last week's incident of
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  Speaker 1: that terrible terrorist attack or should I say alleged terrorist
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  Speaker 1: attack at this point, although I mean, who among us
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  Speaker 1: isn't pretty confident this was a terrorist attack on the
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  Speaker 1: synagogue in Melbourne. They've released advice telling Jewish people worldwide
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  Speaker 1: to give Australia a wide birth. Here is Rabbi Abraham Cooper,
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  Speaker 1: who's from the Simon Westenthal Center giving this travel rawning.
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  Speaker 4: He says in the letter to Kevin Rudd.
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  Speaker 1: Rabbi Cooper said the Center was outraged that its fellow
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  Speaker 1: Jews in Australia were being targeted by hate crimes. Quote,
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  Speaker 1: we are not convinced that Jews are safe as the
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  Speaker 1: authorities have failed to take necessary measures to protect Jewish
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  Speaker 1: communities from increasingly belligerent and violent targeting by Islamists and
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  Speaker 1: other extremists. Well, this is very intense. I would have
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  Speaker 1: thought that he would at least just call out Sydney
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  Speaker 1: and Melbourne and say don't go there. Those are the
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  Speaker 1: hot spots of the pro Palestinian protesters of these increased
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  Speaker 1: amounts of anti Semitic acts. However, he's saying Australia, why
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  Speaker 1: like the entire nation avoid it.
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  Speaker 7: I've got to.
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  Speaker 1: Say I do think that's a bit dramatic. I do
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  Speaker 1: think that's a bit over the top. Jewish people are
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  Speaker 1: safe in Australia, the vast amounts of Australia. But what
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  Speaker 1: I think he's doing here is drawing attention to what
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  Speaker 1: we draw attention to every single night, and that is
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  Speaker 1: this government's utter failure to make Jewish people living in
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  Speaker 1: Australia feel safe and it's worked because here we are
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of the world talking about it,
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  Speaker 1: and he's written this letter to Rudd, who we know
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  Speaker 1: is the ambassador in America, the country in which he's living,
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  Speaker 1: to try and get the ball rolling get some action
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  Speaker 1: here in Australia. I don't like his chances though, Joe
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  Speaker 1: Given Rudd and Albanizi are two peas in a pod.
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  Speaker 1: They've done anything but support each other. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: that this, this attempt to get this.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of attention, get.
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  Speaker 1: Rudd's ear, who in turn will get alban Easy's ear,
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  Speaker 1: will work and we'll finally seem so.
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  Speaker 5: I think they say they say in politics are always
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  Speaker 5: back self interest. It's the only horse you know that's
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  Speaker 5: really trying. And I think Anthie Albanezi is getting the message.
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  Speaker 5: I think he understands now how serious he certainly would
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  Speaker 5: have after his visit to the synagogue earlier today.
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  Speaker 4: Five days later, better late than ever, and I.
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  Speaker 5: Think he understands how seriously threatened and genuinely scared Jews
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  Speaker 5: in Australia feel. This is something they have been shouting
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  Speaker 5: from the rooftops and I've been trying to convey as well.
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  Speaker 5: But that I think there is some advice and center
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  Speaker 5: is obviously a center that is completely notly focused on
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  Speaker 5: anti Semitism found in the wake of the horrors of
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  Speaker 5: the Holocaust, Nazi Jurnemy. And I think when people say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: we condemn all forms of you know, racism, anti Semitism, Islamophobia, homophobia,
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  Speaker 5: and conflate all these things into the one basket, there
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  Speaker 5: was only one of those groups. Where there have been
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  Speaker 5: throughout human history by Christians, by Nazis, by people basically
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  Speaker 5: right across the globe, and especially in Western Europe and
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  Speaker 5: Asia and North and Africa.
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  Speaker 6: And the Middle East.
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  Speaker 5: There is only one group of people who fought thousands
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  Speaker 5: and thousands of years, has been deliberately targeted, purged from countries,
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  Speaker 5: from nation states time and time again, whether it be Morocco,
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  Speaker 5: whether it be Elizabethan England, whether it be Nazi Germany
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  Speaker 5: and the Eastern European countries that.
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  Speaker 6: Colonized and conquered.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't think you can understand what is going
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  Speaker 5: through the heads of the Jewish community without understanding that
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  Speaker 5: less than a century ago, in living memory for some people,
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  Speaker 5: eighty years ago, there were.
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  Speaker 6: Millions and millions and millions.
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  Speaker 5: Of people who were dedicated just to wiping them out,
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  Speaker 5: just to wiping them from the face of the planet. Now,
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  Speaker 5: there are plenty of other people who have experienced oppression.
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  Speaker 5: There have been other genocides elsewhere in the world, but
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  Speaker 5: we have never ever seen anything of that scale in
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  Speaker 5: all of human history. And I dare say there has
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  Speaker 5: never been a more continuous push, a more continuous.
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  Speaker 6: Pattern of pograms.
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  Speaker 5: Be it from Stalin's Russia, be it from the Tsars Russia,
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  Speaker 5: be it from the Nazis, be it from medieval states
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  Speaker 5: and early modern states in Western Europe.
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  Speaker 6: These people have been genocided for one of a better words.
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  Speaker 5: People have been trying to wipe this people out, Jews
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  Speaker 5: out for thousands and thousands of years, and the Nazis
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  Speaker 5: came incredibly close. I think it was something close to
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  Speaker 5: a third of all the Jews on the planet. And
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  Speaker 5: so when you're talking about Israel just having one place
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  Speaker 5: where they can actually feel safe, or whether you're talking
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  Speaker 5: about not being able to leave their homes, not being
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  Speaker 5: able to go to the opera house, to their own
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  Speaker 5: memorial service, their own day morning, that plays pretty that
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  Speaker 5: sets off some pretty major red flags. And I think
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  Speaker 5: you cannot understand what is happening in Australia and fully
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  Speaker 5: appreciate what it means, not just for the Jewish community
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  Speaker 5: but for all of.
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  Speaker 6: Us without understanding that we're.
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  Speaker 5: About to embark on a road that starts with a
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  Speaker 5: Roman rebelization of Israel two thousand years ago, continues with
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  Speaker 5: medieval practices of killing Jews if they didn't convert, expelling
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  Speaker 5: them from entire countries.
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  Speaker 6: And there is a thread that goes right up.
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  Speaker 5: To Nazi Germany and the industrial scale extermination of six
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  Speaker 5: million souls, menenm and children as though they were animals,
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  Speaker 5: and that happened in the middle of the twentieth century,
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  Speaker 5: and we've got to get our heads around that. We
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  Speaker 5: will not understand what is happening.
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  Speaker 2: A few years ago and I went to the Holocaust Museum.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can spend hours there, but I really
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  Speaker 3: didn't get past the first exhibit, which was a series
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  Speaker 3: of videos from people who had lived through the Holocaust,
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  Speaker 3: and what struck me was so many of them talked
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  Speaker 3: about how they remember sitting at the family dining room
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  Speaker 3: table and Mum would be saying we need to get
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  Speaker 3: out of here, we need to get out of here,
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  Speaker 3: and Dad would.
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  Speaker 2: Be saying, no, no, no, it's not going to be
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  Speaker 2: that bad. It's just a few little things, but it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be okay.
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  Speaker 3: Sure they closed our business, Sure they've got us to
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  Speaker 3: wear the yellow star or whatever. And many of them
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  Speaker 3: talked about the fact that they wish they'd listened to
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  Speaker 3: their instinct and gotten out, the families would have survived.
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  Speaker 3: Others said they were glad that they had listened and
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  Speaker 3: got out. And so I think what you're saying is
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  Speaker 3: very true. And I've spoken to Jewish families here in
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  Speaker 3: Sydney who are having those exact same discussions now, saying
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  Speaker 3: it's in the living memory that we were talking about,
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  Speaker 3: it's not that bad.
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  Speaker 2: Surely it won't get worse.
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  Speaker 3: And yet we're watching over fourteen months things get worse
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  Speaker 3: and worse for this Jewish human rightsation, which is very
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  Speaker 3: well respected for the first.
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  Speaker 2: Time in their history.
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  Speaker 3: To say to Jews around the world, don't go to
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  Speaker 3: Australia unless its essential travel is just astonishing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: who amongst us ever thought that such a warning would
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  Speaker 3: be issued for Australia. I was reading in the Times
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  Speaker 3: of Israel that the number of apartments being purchased this
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  Speaker 3: was just for the month of September by people outside
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  Speaker 3: of Israel wanting to move back. There was up one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and nineteen percent on September in the previous year.
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  Speaker 3: And these were Jews from around the world who figured,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, it's actually safer to live in Israel,
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  Speaker 3: where we're surrounded by armies committed to our destruction than
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  Speaker 3: it is for us to live in many places around
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  Speaker 3: the West, where we're not sure if we can even
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  Speaker 3: trust our neighbors or supposedly democratic elected governments who are
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  Speaker 3: supposed to keep us safe. Speaking of which, Anthony Albanesi's
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  Speaker 3: job is to keep all Australians safe. His election campaign
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  Speaker 3: catchphrases I've got your back. I'm not sure many would
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  Speaker 3: be feeling elbows got their back when he waited, as
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  Speaker 3: Liz said, almost five days before showing up at the
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: ripping Lee Synagogue in Melbourne. And you know, the fire
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: lasted longer than Albanzy's visit. In fact, his tennis game
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: lasted longer as well.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: But show up he did.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: He didn't exactly get a warm reception.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: Are you worried about?
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Yes, they was a free.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: You can hear their people saying you're late. He certainly was,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: and of course have a look at this. People had
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: not forgotten his tennis match. Guy put back a guy
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: now Albany's. He did a quick tour of the synagogue,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: then he made a short statement to the press, took
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: no questions and then disappeared for a I think he
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: had a private meeting with some of the leaders there.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: One of the things he said in his brief statement
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: to the media, he said, we're a country that needs
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: to come together and unite. But it's funny Joe with Labor.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: You know, they've got the PM right at the synagogue.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: This is the biggest thing in the country right now.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: We've got to come together and unite, he says. At
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: that very moment, you've got Ed Husak, one of his
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: senior MPs, on Sky News saying, what about Islamophobia. I mean, now,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying Islamophobia shouldn't be something that's abhorred as
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: much as anything else. But you're not talking about Islamophobia
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: when you've got your Prime Minister on his.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Much delayed visit to the synagogue.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: At the same time, you've got Penny Wong in South
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Australia comparing Israel with China and with Russia. At the
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: same time, you've got Murray wat testing that Josh Friedenberg
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: was only really upset about the fire bombing at the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: synagogue for rank political purposes. If Anthony alban Easy is serious,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: we've got to come together and unite as a country.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe talk to your senior team about coming together and
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: uniting and deciding this is the key issue in the
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: country right now without having the more free lancing with
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: one eye on votes in Western Sydney trying to walk
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: both sides of the street.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Look, I think it is a problem. I think as
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: there's a couple of things. I think Murray Watt, who
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: I like, but they were pretty silly comments. Josh Josh
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Ryden was silly.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I was disgraced.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Josh Fridenberg's parents were Holocaust survivors from Hungary.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: The reason why he couldn't they couldn't find.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: His previous citizenship is because his parents had fled for
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: their lives.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And as Murray What apologized for that comment, I think not.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: I think, well, I think you know, we don't.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: We don't nearly get into who has to walk the
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: walk of shame and stuff.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: But again it's pretty shame. I think it's pretty silly.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Penny Wong's statements were obviously clearly unhelpful, and I think
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: it's it's pretty clear that Penny Wong has a conventional left.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: Wing view of the Israel Palestine debate.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I think that is part of the problem in the
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Labor Party that you have people and I think, honestly,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I genuinely believe that the scales are falling from Albow's
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: eyes and he's starting to realize just how much of
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: a white hot issue this is.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: And how.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Well he's meeting with the Jewish leaders. Now he's appointed
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: an anti Semitism counter terrorism task for force within the AFP,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: So there are.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Things that he Peter Dutton said he will that's right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: And again late shore but better late than never.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: And these are things that you know, under another another
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: type of left wing leader would simply not have happened.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: So I think he is doing that. Ed Hughesy, obviously
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: you can understand that as a Muslim himself, he is
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: going to be someone with very strong community ties and
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I suppose sort of you know, ideological ties with the
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Palestinian cause in the Middle East. I don't really mind
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: that so much. It's it's perfectly natural that he would
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: think about that. And the reason I made that massive
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: point earlier about the huge and really sinister scope of
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: anti Semitism right throughout history and just how absolute and
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: enormous in its scale and horrific in its outcomes has
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: been that just simply has not happened to any other
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: group of people. And it's very weird that people, I think,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: see anti Semitism as a more benign form of racism
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: or not as serious as real racism towards other ethnicities,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: when in.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: Fact, that is the only thing for which an.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Entire race, and entire ethnicity and entire ethno religious group.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: Has been attempted to be wiped out across the entire world.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: That was a Nazi breaker. And it's not just the
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Nazis again, this is.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: All sorts of groups, for all sorts of reasons, following
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: all sorts of conspiracy theories wanting to just completely wipe
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: these people out. Now, of course is lamophober exists. Of
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Course other forms of racism exist, and there's been horrible
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: things done to other ethnic groups. There is I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: a really special and specific case with Jewish people that
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: has never throughout history applied on such a scale and
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: with such venom, and with such absolutism, and with such
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: deadly force as it has to them. So again, when
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you're talking about things that are happening in Melbourne and Sydney,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: you know, the firebombing of a synagogue, the smashing of
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: shop windows. These are the things that happen on Crystal Nacht.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: These are the things that happened in the middle of
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: the rise of Nazi Germany again, and people kept sort
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: of sleepwalking to their own destruction. And so I think
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: when people are talking about that and saying these are
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: the anxieties that we are feeling as a people because
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: we're seeing the same things happen that our grandparents told
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: us about. To then say oh yeah, but what about Islamophobia,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure if that's really getting it. I'm not
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: sure if that you know, and I'm not sure if
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: it's particularly helpful.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure that what Alvin Easy had to say,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And part of his speech today indicates that he's getting
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it either.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Get this. So he's there, he.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Is finally at the synagogue, at the scene of the crime,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: at the scene of this terrorist attack, and he decides
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to tell people there standing in the rubble of their
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: place of worship.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: How wonderful multiculturalism is.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Let's read this in the Australian amid chaotic scenes, Miss
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: alban he told community members.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Australia's multiculturalism and social.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Cohesion had to be nurtured and protected. Quote he said,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: It's one of the most wonderful things about this country
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: is you can live in Australia and experience different cultures,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: different faith beliefs, and be enriched by what by, which
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: is why we have to cherish it, why we have
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to nurture it. I felt like this added insult to injury. Firstly,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that Jewish community is far more greatest than I would
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: have been. I don't know that I would have let
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: him come much. Let's invited him to come. There's been
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: plenty of Palestinian and other mosques et cetera, say in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Western Sydney that just stopped inviting MP's to all of
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: their important events because they were like, sot it, you're
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not supporting us. We don't want you showing up for
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: your photo ops. Get on your bike, thanks very much.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: This comes after the fire bombing, but then after the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: fire bombing on Sunday we had you in Sydney, bunches
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: of men out on the street chanting ojus, the Army
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: of Muhammad will return. If that's what Anthony Albanzi means
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: by the rich the enrichment of diversity. And incidentally, I
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: look through all the papers today trying to see is
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: there any follow up on that police police that are
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: investigating yesterdays that there was no news on it today,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: and I suspect to be one of those things that
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: will be swept under the carpet and disappear.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: So ISLAMOPHOBICVI James, So is I mcphobey Cove.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they say to shut everyone up, isn't it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Of course, Anthony Albanzi is doing brilliantly by his own estimation.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: In fact, if you believe him, he hasn't put a
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: foot wrong. The only reason people think he has is
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: because those evil journalists at News Corp have got it
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: in for him. Anthony Albanesi had a cabinet meeting yesterday
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if Anthony Alberanzi should be more
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: worried about News Corp or about his cabinet members leaking
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: what he's saying to them. In private meetings. The Age
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: newspaper reported that a cabinet source said Albanesi was firm
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and matter of fact as he reflected on the tactics
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: of the conservative press in recent months as Labor has
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: continued its slow downward polling trend. That's right, the slow
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: downward polling trend is all because of the tactics of
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the conservative press.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It's your fault.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Apparently, told his cabinet News Corp and the opposition were
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: now working hand in glove and that this was an
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: embedded part of the political dynamic that we all needed
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: to deal with. This is what his cabinet leak says.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I should just point out, Joe, this is the second
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: cabinet leak I think in the last three months. Do
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: you remember when they were planning questions for the census.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: And it was all trying to get them to Albanese's
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: problem is not news Corp. And by the way, news
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Corp is a private company.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: News Corp can say whatever they want as opposed to
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the A b C who received taxpayer funded.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: Balance, unbiased balance.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, they've got the La Times Ai widget to check
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: whether news.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Corp to point out his missteps. There's an easy way
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: to fix that. Stop making missteps.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I love that he's giving us the credit. Mate, all
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the credit is you.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: I think it. Look, it's obviously fair to say that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: You know, News Corp is a pretty tough crowd. The
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Daily Telegraph is not a sucker. It is a cynic
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: call newspaper, very family friendly.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Love the pressure's job, The pressures the whole account. Hold
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: them to account. That's absolutely right.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: I'm fond of Winston Churchill's great saying, which is that
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: a politician complaining about the press is like a sailor
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: complaining about the sea. If everything is the press's fault,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: in the presses, and you're completely beholden to the whims
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: of the press, then public life and politics probably isn't the.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Game for you.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that Albo is just trying to save
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: a bit of face. Obviously he's the chair of the Cabinet.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: He has to go there.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: He knows they're all going to be saying, mate, you've
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: had a bit of a shocker. And I think the
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: fact that he said it to cabinet where there would
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: be an expectation and again you're right about the leaks,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: but there'd be an expectation that nothing leaks from cabinet.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: That's very rare.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Stuff leaks from caucus all the time, that's almost a
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: national sport. But cabinet, if there are leaks, that's a
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: bit of a worrying sign. And the fact that they
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: are leaking, that he is blaming News Corp. For for
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: all his woes as leaks go, it suggests that they
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: probably don't think that's a very good idea. And again
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: this Albo, he's great, and I know that he's often
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: give him a you know, running through.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: His paces and we simply state the fact.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: But I would just say, like, you know, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: like blaming the press for your mistakes or for how
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: they report on your mistakes or whatever whatever you think,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: however hard done by you think you've.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: Been, that is a one way ticket to oblivion.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: That is because it shows that you are firstly, you're
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: giving all the power to someone else and you're not
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: actually acknowledging what you have to do or you can do,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: or where you need to change to to to change
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: the situation and get back in a winning position.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Zero responsibility though a weekly a weekly.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: As soon as you says, soon as you start saying
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: it's all someone else's fault. It's all someone else's fault.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: There's there's nothing I can do.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Why are you there?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: Why are the leader?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Then you follow that argument to its natural conclusion and
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: it takes it in pretty dark places.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: But hey, thanks for giving us the credit. Albow hair flick.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: We had no idea we were so powerful.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: We're literally the ones responsible just by virtue of pointing
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: out the facts.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Of your rule and rain, we're responsible for you diving
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: in the polls.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Imagine how much of a better PM he'd be if
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he actually tuned in, if he read and watched News Corp.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: We've got far smarter people working.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: For us, mate.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: You could have taken notes. Any number of News.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Corp columns has brilliant gold nuggets for free in.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Terms of policy ideas.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: But no, thank you day on your narrative again and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: again and here we are you likely to lose because
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you deserve it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: To Queensland now, where the new premier are.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Christoph Fowley has decided to go full dictator.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Here he is today giving his maiden speech.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Most of it was spent, of course, gibing Miles the
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: outgoing premiere, which is well deserved and why wouldn't he?
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: But then he turned dictator on.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Us and decided to take this opportunity to tell everyone
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that he was banning from Parliament for the length of
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: his premiership any discussion on the hot topic of abortion.
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: This House orders that a no Bill or amendment seeking
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: to amend the Termination of Pregnancy Act twenty eighteen is
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: allowed to be introduced. B no motion or amendment seeking
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: to have this House express its views on the Termination
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: of Pregnancy Act twenty eighteen is allowed to be moved.
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: And two the Speaker is to rule out of order
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: any bill, motion or amendment that offends the order in one.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: This motion today ends the disgraceful campaign. Queenslanders said no
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: to a US style scare campaign, Queenslanders said no to
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: politicizing a sensitive issue, and Queensland has said no to
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: the re election of a very bad labor government.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: What is this, dictator Bs, You're literally gagging your own
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: parliament on day one you live rule Premiere.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: My goodness, are you kidding me?
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: This is a really important issue. That much is true.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: But many people pro livers, even in that man's own government,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: have been waiting for an MP government to get in
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: in Queensland so that they could overturn the abhorrence law
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that was changed back in twenty and eighteen by the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: then Health Minister Stephen Miles, which made it far easier
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to get late term abortions in Queensland now. He said
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: at the time when he changed the law that this
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: wouldn't mean there was more late term abortions in Queensland,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: but he was wrong. In twenty eighteen, there were one
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two children killed through late term abortion
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: This is Queensland's own raw data.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: By the way, in twenty twenty one, in the space
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: of just three years, that number had doubled to three
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: hundred and four babies killed after viability, so their lives
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: are fully viable. This is late term and up until birth.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: We don't have the data from the most recent years
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: because they've stopped publishing it, but we do know that
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: forty two babies within the last year were born alive
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: post an abortion procedure afforded no medical attention which would
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: have enabled them to die in some comfort. Instead, they're
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: left alone in cupboards and other places to simply draw
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: their last breath.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: How is this issue. Firstly not worth talking about. Oh,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: we just want to leave it there, because.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: All I care about now that I'm in power is
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: keeping in power.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: But secondly, this.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Is a freedom of speech issue, if ever there was one.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: You don't get to become premiere and then bring out
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: a grocery list of issues that because they're too hot
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to trot and all you care about is popularity. Right now,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you're entire Parliament can't touch for the duration of your
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: rule and reign.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Who the hell is this.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: It's anti freedom of speech, it's anti democracy.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: But I got to say, in order to make sure
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: that there's no conscience vote, he ensures that the consciences
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: of his MPs have never bothered. He even discussed bad
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: anyone asking the views people on abortions and watching that clip,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: and I know fi on A Simpson.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: She's a lovely lady. I really like her, but I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: know that she would have.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Certain views on abortion. And see she's the Women's Minister
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: sitting behind Chris of Fouley. As he said, for the
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: next four years, this will not be a topic of discussion.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: And you know he says people want to politicize a
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: sensitive issue. Well, I'm not sure talking about abortion is
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: politicizing it. It is sensitive. We expect our politicians to
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: talk about important issues.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: We expect them to talk about it in a mature fashion.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: We expect them to have well, we expect to keep
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: getting promised adults.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: And Queensland elect the Conservative government there, they're hoping that
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: they're going to.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Get some adults finally.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: For them, they'd be letting people talk about everybody on
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: both sides. No, I think I think he's just shut
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: down something he knows as a Pandora's box and that
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: would in all likelihood destroy his government and put Steven
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Miles back in the premiership. So that's what he would
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: have his eye on. And yes, political partner was ever
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: a ditch.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Worth dying, and it is this one for shame Chris
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: of Fooley and whatever her name is, Minister for Women.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Please, just while we're talking about big issues, I do
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: just want to quickly raise something very important. I know
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: last night we, as we often do, descend it into
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: a debate over biblical studies. I owe a correction and
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: an apology. I talked about Job and his treatment of
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: his daughters, and I remember going home thinking I'm sure
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: I got that right. In or was it something and
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: it was Lot. It was a Lot living in the
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: city of Sodom who offered up his daughters to the
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: mob in order to protect two of God's.
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  Speaker 6: Where you were going on, Job, I just want to
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: say to Job, I'm sorry.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: To go to a break.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: in tomorrow's papers, including the federal government about to announce
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: a flat rate on childcare.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Is that a good idea? And talk about that in
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the month. Welcome back. Let's look at tomorrow's headlines.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Joe Anthony Albanese is dealing with anti semitism today, but
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: he'll move on to a totally different subject tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just another great policy from the Albaneze labor government,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: delivering for Australians day in, day out, every second of
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: every day. Election pledge on childcare reads the incredibly boring
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Canberra Times headline.
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  Speaker 6: But tell us what it is? No election pledge on
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: child care? Why don't you say in the headline what
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: it's going to be?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: The people pick up the paper?
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: The more rebates bought for parents? Again, very boring subhead.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Prime Minister Anthony Albaneze is making childcare a key election
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: battleground which were already knew as he pledges to remove
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: a controversial hurdle for parents to access rebates. Sorry, just
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: someone got some smelling salts. Just what do they use
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: on Joe Biden to juice him up.
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  Speaker 6: Late at night?
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Mister Albaneze, will abolish the activity test for Commonwealth. Oh,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: here's the lead, it's in the second part. Will abolish
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: the activity test. The Commonwealth funded early childhood education. Why
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: would you put the words Commonwealth funded in them?
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: Like god, get these.
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  Speaker 2: People running commentary.
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  Speaker 5: He is reelected in a policy aim at providing costs
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  Speaker 5: of living the leaf while improving outcomes for vulnerable children.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 5: But basically there will no longer be an activity test,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: so it makes it just easier and quicker and quicker
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: and faster to get childcare, which is good, but you
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: would need no, it is not a lowe translator.
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  Speaker 4: It is not good.
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  Speaker 1: To be able to raise their own kids at home,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: which the vast majority of them would prefer to do
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: instead of treating us like cattle. Because we know all
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you care about is getting us back to work for
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the man, to raising more tax dollars. That's all we
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: are to you, we'd rather be at home raising our
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: own children. So how about you give us the rebate,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: how about you give.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Us the subsidy. How about you stop.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Talking about, oh, I'm helping families when really what you're
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: doing is inherently detrimental to families. But with universal daycare
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: meaning that women should just palm their kids off at infancy,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: which the vast majority of Australian women do, those who
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: use childcare within the first twelve months of their kids'
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: life are back at work because maternity leave runs out
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and they can't lose their job, now, can they not.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Everyone is in a financial position privileged enough to be
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: able to stay at home, and I think that is
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: an absolute travesty.
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  Speaker 4: This is a first world nation.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: We should have measures in place to empower women. Since
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that's what you say this is about. How about you
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: empower women to stay at home with their children and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: raise them their own instead of the state. Because we
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: know what you're up to being like, no, no, give
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: your child to us. You go earn the tax dollars
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and will raise your child.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: In our own image, Thank you very much.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Indoctrination from preschool right through to UNI.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: No thanks.
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  Speaker 5: You have the camera times to put that headline on
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: the article that would have got people talking.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I would have given it to Dana Daniel for Free
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Society crumbles on election day that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: The other problem with subsidizing childcare is all you do
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: is increase the fees of childcare. Because there will be
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: more demand than there will be places childcare will up
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: their fees. After all, the government they're going to subsidize
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: it if they want to reduce the cost of childcare
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: and make it more affordable. It was the government that
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: kept creating tighter and tighter ratios of staff to kids,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: which makes childcare more expensive. It was the government that
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: decided you had to have higher qualifications in order to
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: staff a childcare center, which made it more expensive. And
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: it's the government that can putting more and more regulations
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: so that the heads of a childcare center spend all
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: their time dealing with regulatory issues rather than actually caring
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: for kids.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: So there are wage driving for the workers as well.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, there are ways to reduce the costs without subsidizing it,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: which would be far preferable.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: And also to the men of Australia, to those who
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: can afford it, Why do you get a.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Wife and have children.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Just to have your wife leave work for another man
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: somewhere in a corporate office and have your children raised
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: by strange women in a daycare center.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Make it make sense to me?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: But to the mercury before I completely lose my lid.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Abuse raids Tasmanian men charge six children removed from harm
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in the Philippines and international police operation which was launched
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: after a forty one year old Tasmanian man was charged
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: with buying child exploitation material online early this year, has
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: resulted in the rescue of six children in the Philippe
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: means hallelujah. The article goes on to talk about this
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: joint investigation between the AFP and the Philippine National Police.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Once they basically got his digital footprint, knew where this
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: material was coming from, they were actually able to get
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: their Philippine contingent in that country to basically.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Do a raid and get the kids the hell out
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: of there.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love stories like this because we know
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: that the child sex slave trade has never been larger
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: than it is today and this is a drop in
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the water, but thank God for every single drop.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Well done to the AFP. That is a very good story.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of Tomorrow's Australian.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: They've got interesting story about energy coalition plan to abolish
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: carbon price by stealth. I didn't think we had a
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: carbon price. The story says the Coalition will abolish or
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: overhaul what it calls Labour's carbon price by stealth in
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: a bid too boost fossil fuels under its energy plan,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: saying the new emissions reduction objective is making Australia's coal
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: fleet look really expensive. Now, every new energy project in
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: this country is measured against what is called value of
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: emissions reduction, and so the energy regulator measures that at
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: the moment, seventy dollars a ton for emissions is the
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: price we four hundred and twenty dollars a ton by
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: twenty fifty. When they measure this, it automatically makes things
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: like coal seem inordinately expensive. And that's how they're able
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: to claim that coal is too costly, it's not efficient,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and to therefore rule out coal as any part of
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: the energy mix based on cost. It's an entirely manufactured cost,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: it's entirely theoretical, and the Coalition are going to either
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: stop using it or overhaul it in order to get
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: real costings on coal and get more of it into
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: the energy mix. Good idea, and clearly energy is going
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: to be the major issue at the next election.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: I think the energy in housing I think will be
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: the two big ones. But definitely cost of living, cost
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: of living, cost of living and if there's room cost
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: of living, that's all.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: It's going to be about.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Speaking of rising temperatures, I know that my pulse was
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: sent racing when I saw the front page.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: Of the Advertiser tomorrow. This just iconic. It's just it's
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: just one of those amazing things.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: It is just so.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: It is just so Florida man. So in Adelaide, everybody
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: knows who this man is. They don't even have to
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: tell him. So it's as famous family and court duel
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: with drug importer grandson.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Oh tells you everything.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: And the header is impolites will fight, which is because
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: I would have thought it was politis because that's how
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: we would say that Sidney can't let that get in
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: the way of a good Polite's family is embroiled in
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: a legal fight over the estate of the family's matriarch
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: after her convicted drug importer grandson claimed that he was
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: entire to more of her multimillion dollar wealth. Marcus Sakanovich
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: fifty four, is suing for more cash from his grandmother,
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: Florence Gemenees Polites estate. She was married to Adelaide property
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: king Con Polites for almost six decades and died in March,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: aged one hundred and two. Let's just look at that
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: photo again. That is a man living his best life.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Con himself died in the nineties. But you know there's
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: been a number of family disputes. Back in twenty sixteen.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, when I say living his best life, he
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: is now dead.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: He's deceased.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but actually dug up his burial plot because there
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: was a cat wrapped in a towel, a dead cat
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: buried with him, and police dug it up and there
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: was a big investigation.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Apparently that was part of a family feud as well.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: So there's been a few all families, you know one there.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: But I grew dieous respect.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: It's a great front page.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: So I talked about colorful Adelaide identity.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: It's just where to go to a break.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at the top ten
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: things that Australians googled this year.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: See if you were interested in any of them that's
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: coming up in a month.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Well, most men watching would know that not every question
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: a woman asks you is meant to be answered, Liz. Unfortunately,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: a UK politician.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Had not learn this listener.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: His name is Lee Anderson and he's a little bit
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: more famous today than he was yesterday.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Why because he took to Twitter to reply to a
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: woman's question.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: She said, women deal with periods, pregnancy and menopause, what
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: do men have to deal with, to which he replied,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: try the Battle of the Psalm, referring to one of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the bloodiest battles of the First World War, which saw
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: one million casualties and over three hundred thousand fatalities.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Men loved this reply and started sharing it, like my
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: table Joe, who said this is my new standard reply.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: When my wife asks me to do the bins. Now,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: he came under a lot of fire for this by
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: irate feminists, obviously.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Me not being a feminist whatsoever.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I was just reminded of this heart warming clip back
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: in the day when we understood the difference between men
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and women and we didn't fight it.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Who do you think goes to fight the wars?
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: The boys they don't have to send women over there.
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: You know why we probably lose the war because they
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: start talking and then forget what they were over there.
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: I love it, sciences love it.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: The science is in.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: But I mean the question remains, are women's lives harder
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: than men's? That's what he was trying That's what she
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: was trying.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: To was trying to.
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: Question.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: I remember reading I've never been able to find it,
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: but I remember reading on hearing that the adrenaline levels
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: that men experience when they're Christmas shopping so high, so
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: off the charts, that the only comparable measure is when
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: they went over the top of the trenches.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: All right, before we go, let's look at the top
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: ten Google searches in this country in twenty twenty four.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Here they are, see if any of them are familiar
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: to you. The top ten Google searches, If we put
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: them up, the number one thing searched was US selection.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Number two Olympic medal tally fair enough. Number three was
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: the Euros that's the football competition. Then people who were
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: interested in celebrities. Liam Payne, He's the one direction star
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: who fell from the balcony of the hotel in Argentina,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. Right, let's look at the top trending recipes
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four. Jamie Oliver Arefry was the number
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: one googled thing. Cucumber sellard. Why would you google?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I had something to do? One star Mantini That trending definitions.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Here's the words that were googled. Demure Why do people
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: want to know what? Demure? Wan?
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: That have bright? There you go, save you.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: What's the second word? Soufflage soul feeds.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Well, that's why people are googling as something to do
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: with music. I think millennial leanth box.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: So they were the top ten googled definitions, recipes and
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: topics this year.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Well that's all we've got.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Everyone feels smarter now, don't they around.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Coming up is the Reader Panah Show. Good Night,