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- 0:02Speaker 1: He was in a hurry, and because I guess it
- 0:05Speaker 1: was rain and he wanted to get this.
- 0:06Speaker 2: On the cover, So you weren't here when Dylan came
- 0:09Speaker 2: down here. He's a friend of mine. Sure he'll get
- 0:11Speaker 2: rid of friends.
- 0:13Speaker 3: This is Jim Brenner, a farmer living in the remote
- 0:17Speaker 3: Utah Desert. Police don't know it yet, but he's showing
- 0:21Speaker 3: them the exact building where a missing teenager was murdered
- 0:25Speaker 3: just days earlier. Nineteen year old Dylan Browns had left
- 0:30Speaker 3: his family to go work on his farm, but after
- 0:33Speaker 3: being spotted buying supplies at a local shop, he would
- 0:36Speaker 3: vanish without a trace. Strangely, no one in the small,
- 0:41Speaker 3: quiet town seemed surprised. Apparently this was not uncommon.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I told that kid stayed the hell out of Montella
- 0:49Speaker 1: with that whole town kitson praise some other.
- 0:54Speaker 4: Guy pointing a gun in my freaking days.
- 0:57Speaker 3: As days stretched into weeks, to tell active's chased a
- 1:00Speaker 3: mounting list of suspects, thieves, violent criminals, drug dealers. Yet
- 1:06Speaker 3: from the very beginning, the truth was there, hidden in
- 1:11Speaker 3: plain sight by someone nobody suspected. It all began on
- 1:26Speaker 3: a quiet evening when police received calls from a concerned
- 1:30Speaker 3: family member reporting their son Dylan Rounds, missing from his
- 1:34Speaker 3: farm in Utah. They hadn't heard from him in over
- 1:37Speaker 3: two days, and when they went to his property to check,
- 1:40Speaker 3: there was no sign of him anywhere. A deputy was
- 1:43Speaker 3: dispatched to Dylan's farm to meet with his family, but
- 1:46Speaker 3: on his way there, he was stopped by a neighbor
- 1:48Speaker 3: of Dylan, claiming he might know what happened to him.
- 1:52Speaker 5: He's been hanging out over that bar in Montello, and
- 1:56Speaker 5: I could give you some names with some scumbags over there.
- 1:59Speaker 5: But he's been shooting his mouth off about how much
- 2:01Speaker 5: money he's making. And there's one guy, Chase, Chase Vector Venture.
- 2:06Speaker 5: He's over there and he can do anything he wants.
- 2:08Speaker 5: You can, Robin Steele and everything. Nooko County Sheriff won't
- 2:11Speaker 5: do anything. And if you talk to his mother, she
- 2:15Speaker 5: knows more about it.
- 2:16Speaker 2: But he run into.
- 2:16Speaker 5: Chase on the Tacoma Road the other day and Chase
- 2:19Speaker 5: kind of scared him a little bit.
- 2:20Speaker 6: Won't your last name again, Jim Renner?
- 2:22Speaker 5: Jim Brenner. We'll let you get down here before they
- 2:24Speaker 5: disturbed the crime scene.
- 2:26Speaker 6: Okay, thank you.
- 2:28Speaker 3: As the conversation ended, Jim Brenner's strange remark about a
- 2:32Speaker 3: crime scene left the deputy curious, since no crime was
- 2:37Speaker 3: yet confirmed. It was an unsettling comment that would soon
- 2:41Speaker 3: become a disturbing reality.
- 2:45Speaker 7: Chad again for now, though, The deputy took note of
- 2:51Speaker 7: this information and continued towards Dylan's farm to speak with
- 2:54Speaker 7: his family.
- 3:01Speaker 8: All guns there, bell guns in there, like he said,
- 3:05Speaker 8: he carries us.
- 3:06Speaker 9: He has afforded that he puts in the door, heard
- 3:08Speaker 9: the side.
- 3:14Speaker 10: Did you just popped the back window?
- 3:16Speaker 2: I broke it out.
- 3:18Speaker 3: At first glance, Dylan's red Ford truck appeared oddly abandoned,
- 3:23Speaker 3: bearing signs of minor damage. But what concerned his father
- 3:26Speaker 3: the most was that Dylan's guns had mysteriously vanished from
- 3:31Speaker 3: the trailer, a detail that was strange on its own.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Wanting to learn more about Dylan, the deputy turned to
- 3:37Speaker 3: speak with his mother. She had her own troubling information
- 3:41Speaker 3: to share about Dylan's recent run in with a local criminal.
- 3:45Speaker 6: Here himself. What is your farm for grain?
- 3:50Speaker 11: Or?
- 3:52Speaker 10: James stopped me when you guys ordered on me?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Was stalking to me.
- 3:55Speaker 12: He said that he knew sel him about a run
- 3:57Speaker 12: and he had with a guy named Jake Yea on Wednesday.
- 4:00Speaker 13: But they told me that's normal.
- 4:02Speaker 12: So I know a lot of the people that he
- 4:05Speaker 12: named from Montello or no good people?
- 4:07Speaker 10: How I know of them from what people say.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Dylan's mother confirmed her son had in fact encountered Chase
- 4:14Speaker 3: Venstra recently, the same person Dylan's neighbor had earlier described
- 4:18Speaker 3: as a local thief and criminal. Given what the deputy
- 4:22Speaker 3: learned so far, it seemed like Dylan might have unknowingly
- 4:25Speaker 3: placed himself in danger. At just nineteen, he purchased six
- 4:30Speaker 3: hundred and forty acres of land with his grandfather for
- 4:33Speaker 3: an estimated two hundred to three hundred thousand dollars and
- 4:36Speaker 3: built a reputation for his ambitious dreams of running a
- 4:40Speaker 3: huge farm. But according to his neighbor, Dylan's confidence may
- 4:44Speaker 3: have made him a target, as he often frequented rough
- 4:47Speaker 3: local bars and talked openly about his financial success. After
- 4:52Speaker 3: rehashing some more details with Dylan's parents, the neighbor Jim
- 4:56Speaker 3: Brainer and his close friend Donald Pateley, arrived to help.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Both men knew Dylan well. Jim was living in a
- 5:03Speaker 3: trailer near Dylan's farm. And occasionally helped him with chores,
- 5:06Speaker 3: and Donald was a longtime friend of the family and
- 5:09Speaker 3: a supportive mentor to Dylan's farming ambitions. But unbeknownst to
- 5:14Speaker 3: everyone at the time, both men knew something more about
- 5:17Speaker 3: Dylan's disappearance, something they weren't ready to share yet.
- 5:22Speaker 10: I did get a feel. Okay, last location, it was
- 5:25Speaker 10: fifteen point four miles from the boat line power, which
- 5:29Speaker 10: puts him on this back road.
- 5:31Speaker 14: So I would that hit him walking? Okay, that's I really,
- 5:37Speaker 14: I know my son. And that's the shortest route.
- 5:39Speaker 6: To his camp.
- 5:41Speaker 2: If he walked, that road was right out here. If
- 5:44Speaker 2: he walked, he cut across this field.
- 5:48Speaker 13: But that's as close as cell phone. Peep not intent,
- 5:51Speaker 13: I'll not.
- 5:52Speaker 2: It's out here.
- 5:54Speaker 15: Off of that road, the back road into the compound,
- 5:57Speaker 15: and we go down to or it is.
- 5:59Speaker 14: Yeah, which time was that?
- 6:00Speaker 13: Does it tell you?
- 6:01Speaker 15: That was at fifty fourteen fifty eight, so right after
- 6:05Speaker 15: just before three o'clock.
- 6:06Speaker 14: Right after you left. So he must have pulled in
- 6:09Speaker 14: right behind you, dropped up the grain truck. And I'm
- 6:12Speaker 14: telling you, I bet you he took off walking.
- 6:16Speaker 6: How do you get to that road?
- 6:17Speaker 2: For all?
- 6:18Speaker 10: I So we don't have to go all the way
- 6:20Speaker 10: back to Lucian Pawn and over. Oh no, I guess okay.
- 6:24Speaker 3: Following this lead, they quickly headed to the shed area
- 6:27Speaker 3: to investigate. That's when they discovered the first troubling sign
- 6:30Speaker 3: of foul play. Dylan's boots were found stained with blood,
- 6:36Speaker 3: discarded about one hundred yards south of the shed. The
- 6:39Speaker 3: deputy immediately secured the boots to send them off for
- 6:42Speaker 3: DNA testing and called another deputy to help search the
- 6:45Speaker 3: shed and the surrounding property. However, they had no way
- 6:49Speaker 3: of knowing that the biggest clue they were looking for
- 6:52Speaker 3: was submerged twenty feet deep in a pond nearby.
- 6:57Speaker 9: There's just some boots out there that are still only
- 6:59Speaker 9: been out there for a day or two. You didn't
- 7:01Speaker 9: see anybody else around here. I left here about one
- 7:04Speaker 9: thirty or dons. Yeah, I was there until.
- 7:07Speaker 2: About nine o'clock at night when I come back.
- 7:09Speaker 13: That truck.
- 7:10Speaker 2: It's just one thing after the Yeah. But he's a
- 7:14Speaker 2: friend of mine. Sure, you all get rid of friends.
- 7:18Speaker 9: Those two boots out there, they're brand new, like they're
- 7:21Speaker 9: they've only been out there. They're they're the same color
- 7:23Speaker 9: leather as your boots and they're the same ones he wears.
- 7:26Speaker 9: So we're just curious of why his boots would be
- 7:29Speaker 9: out there, same size he wears. They've only been out there,
- 7:32Speaker 9: probably for a day or two. He might have threw
- 7:34Speaker 9: him out there.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he did. Well, he does he know that's
- 7:37Speaker 2: a dump out there. He does. He's got electronics and
- 7:40Speaker 2: ship in there. I'd be like, say he was here,
- 7:46Speaker 2: he had to been here, truck here. Yeah, that makes sense.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Based on Jim Brinner's timeline, whatever happened to Dylan likely
- 7:55Speaker 3: occurred between one thirty PM and nine o'clock PM, when
- 8:00Speaker 3: Jim left the shed to visit his friend Donald hate Lee.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Police quickly verified Brenner's timeline with his friend Donald, who
- 8:07Speaker 3: confirms that they had dinner together during that time. With
- 8:11Speaker 3: Dylan's exact movements still unclear, deputies requested a helicopter to
- 8:15Speaker 3: scout the area from above, looking for any trace of Dylan.
- 8:18Speaker 2: So, who owned this right here? That's the guy that
- 8:21Speaker 2: he is a partner with this Whey he dropped.
- 8:23Speaker 3: The great cook off.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Where's this great truck?
- 8:25Speaker 10: It's backed into that silver building there, So the big one, Yep,
- 8:28Speaker 10: you got to go uphire Mike or you think good,
- 8:30Speaker 10: please do the nice high army.
- 8:33Speaker 15: You can look at everything with a camera and then
- 8:34Speaker 15: we'll come back DOWNCID, we see you thing with her.
- 8:36Speaker 3: After a full sweep of the surrounding area, no sign
- 8:39Speaker 3: of Dylan or any indication of where he might have
- 8:42Speaker 3: gone was found. In the following days, the search efforts
- 8:50Speaker 3: continued and Daniel's family, alongside local volunteers, joined in, but
- 8:55Speaker 3: despite their best efforts coming through the area, they too
- 8:58Speaker 3: came up empty. Attention soon turned to the local criminal,
- 9:03Speaker 3: Chase Venstra. Both Dylan's mother and his neighbor Jim, mentioned
- 9:07Speaker 3: a recent encounter between the two, making Chase one of
- 9:10Speaker 3: the last people to see Dylan alive. Additionally, Chase already
- 9:15Speaker 3: had a history of violent run ins with the law,
- 9:18Speaker 3: including a ten hour armed stand off with police in
- 9:21Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, and was well known in the area for
- 9:25Speaker 3: all the wrong reasons. Luckily for police, Chase had an
- 9:29Speaker 3: active warrant related to domestic violence. It was their perfect
- 9:32Speaker 3: chance to bring him in for questioning. But when officers
- 9:35Speaker 3: arrived at the house to arrest him, Chase was nowhere
- 9:39Speaker 3: to be found, potentially already on the run from police.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Officers quickly began searching the town, asking if anyone had
- 9:46Speaker 3: seen Chase recently. Locals directed them to the Montello Cowboy Bar,
- 9:51Speaker 3: a place known to be frequented by Chase. Following this lead,
- 9:55Speaker 3: officers headed to check the bar, where they would soon
- 9:57Speaker 3: learn that Dylan and Chase's encounter it may have been
- 10:00Speaker 3: more dangerous than anyone realized. But before we get to that,
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- 11:13Speaker 3: the officers at Montello Cowboy Bar, where a conversation with
- 11:17Speaker 3: the locals was about to reveal how Dylan's encounter with
- 11:20Speaker 3: Chase may have turned violent.
- 11:24Speaker 10: I'm the ryan a good name doing around.
- 11:26Speaker 14: Oh I know, we got locals out here.
- 11:31Speaker 10: Well, they went out that way because he was out
- 11:34Speaker 10: to loose in.
- 11:35Speaker 16: I was hearing Kurt say something about he had a
- 11:38Speaker 16: conversation with that Chase kid.
- 11:40Speaker 6: Yeah, that's who I'm looking forward.
- 11:41Speaker 16: We find it kind of worried about it because GIFs
- 11:45Speaker 16: Dylan did walk back from where he left the grain
- 11:48Speaker 16: track and Chase got a hold of him vulnerable, you
- 11:53Speaker 16: know what I mean.
- 11:54Speaker 6: Walk him back. Something bad to happen, because.
- 11:57Speaker 16: There was a bad injury with the kid just here
- 12:00Speaker 16: that got his stay smashed in by the butt of
- 12:02Speaker 16: the gun, and all his the whole camp or show
- 12:07Speaker 16: was all bashed in and stuff.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Where do we find Chase? Is he from here? Does
- 12:13Speaker 2: he live here?
- 12:14Speaker 12: Yeah?
- 12:14Speaker 6: He does, he doesn't.
- 12:16Speaker 16: He's from around here, yes, staying out here?
- 12:20Speaker 13: He was?
- 12:21Speaker 6: Where was he staying at in town?
- 12:24Speaker 14: And so everybody was after him and they finally told
- 12:27Speaker 14: him to get the hell out of town and stay.
- 12:29Speaker 6: Chris came back.
- 12:29Speaker 10: Because he was just here.
- 12:31Speaker 3: The bar owner's recap only further implicated Chase Venstra, suggesting
- 12:36Speaker 3: that a violent confrontation between Chase and Dylan was more
- 12:39Speaker 3: likely than ever. But something else caught the officer's attention
- 12:43Speaker 3: when one of the bar owners briefly mentioned another recent
- 12:47Speaker 3: incident involving Chase. Sensing there might be more to this,
- 12:51Speaker 3: the officer decided to pull her aside for a private conversation.
- 12:55Speaker 3: At this point, police still considered Dylan's case a missing person,
- 12:59Speaker 3: but what the bar owner detailed next would soon shift
- 13:03Speaker 3: this case to one of potential homicide.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Why was chasing him having an issue?
- 13:10Speaker 12: Do you know so Kurt told me, and I was
- 13:12Speaker 12: over here in part of the conversation saying that Dylan
- 13:15Speaker 12: was to drive down the road and Chase stopped it
- 13:18Speaker 12: and so Hey got some water. He was like, hey,
- 13:21Speaker 12: do you know Kurt dada? And I guess it got
- 13:23Speaker 12: an altercation about that because Chase he's like, curtsy as
- 13:26Speaker 12: welda da, And Dylan was like, no, he's not.
- 13:29Speaker 6: You know, he's a good guy.
- 13:29Speaker 17: I work for you know, I do work for hm.
- 13:31Speaker 12: Blah blah blah.
- 13:31Speaker 10: There's an altercation.
- 13:32Speaker 12: Then he went on his way, and I believe, if
- 13:35Speaker 12: I'm not.
- 13:35Speaker 18: Mistaking the conversation, that was the same day that he
- 13:38Speaker 18: drove the Greater or the Grainer over to wherever he
- 13:42Speaker 18: and then whoever was there couldn't give him a ride back,
- 13:45Speaker 18: so he possibly want That's all I know about the conversation.
- 13:48Speaker 19: How does the kid get hit with the butt of
- 13:52Speaker 19: a gun?
- 13:52Speaker 2: Does that figure into this at all?
- 13:54Speaker 12: I can get down. I think there is some because
- 13:56Speaker 12: now we're talking violence. So kid let his property go
- 14:00Speaker 12: to stop making payments on his property because he's so scared.
- 14:03Speaker 12: But he woke up to the buton of the gun
- 14:05Speaker 12: into his face. They smashed his camber. Oh, my thirties,
- 14:10Speaker 12: he has a family, has kids. He's out your boat
- 14:12Speaker 12: land out here's or I'm trying to host it.
- 14:14Speaker 11: He's not out here an imagine, no does properly go?
- 14:20Speaker 11: Who was gone?
- 14:21Speaker 3: With this troubling insight, it became clear that Chase Venstro
- 14:25Speaker 3: was fully capable of extreme violence. If he attacked someone
- 14:28Speaker 3: else recently, he easily could have done the same to Dylan.
- 14:32Speaker 3: But what no one had realized yet was that police
- 14:35Speaker 3: were looking in the wrong direction the whole time, while
- 14:39Speaker 3: someone far more dangerous and guilty was hiding right under
- 14:43Speaker 3: their noses. The next day, while the search for Chase continued,
- 14:50Speaker 3: Dylan's family reached out to police. They were conducting their
- 14:54Speaker 3: own investigation and wanted to share new information they'd uncovered,
- 14:58Speaker 3: information suggesting Chase may not have acted alone.
- 15:02Speaker 2: So this is this is the family.
- 15:04Speaker 10: Yes, okay, so tell him again what your suspicion to
- 15:09Speaker 10: believe it?
- 15:13Speaker 13: So I'm five twenty five is when Dylan ran in
- 15:15Speaker 13: the chase with the desert and call in the desert
- 15:17Speaker 13: and called me right.
- 15:18Speaker 6: After he had no shoes on.
- 15:20Speaker 13: Dylan wouldn't let him take his phone or give him
- 15:22Speaker 13: a ride, but he did allow him to call his
- 15:24Speaker 13: dad on speakerphone in Ogden, Utah. Dylan allowed Chase to
- 15:30Speaker 13: and then he gave him some coke and his and
- 15:33Speaker 13: then his dad called Dylan back and Dylan sent the
- 15:35Speaker 13: pin from his phone to where Chase was.
- 15:38Speaker 6: Okay.
- 15:38Speaker 13: So then we fast forward to five twenty eight, which
- 15:41Speaker 13: was Saturday. Dylan was heard from in the morning. He
- 15:44Speaker 13: talked to his grandma and he was gonna take the
- 15:46Speaker 13: green truck to the shed to put it in shelter because.
- 15:48Speaker 8: It was raining.
- 15:50Speaker 13: So at this point were assumed he was walking back
- 15:51Speaker 13: across the desert to his camper.
- 15:54Speaker 6: Because he didn't have a ride. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
- 16:00Speaker 13: So then five point nine they continued to look for
- 16:02Speaker 13: In five to thirty we all got here to Dylan's
- 16:06Speaker 13: last and non locational loopsin filed the police support, got
- 16:09Speaker 13: search and rescue out. That's tonight we found Dylan Boots
- 16:13Speaker 13: about four hundred yards from where his last known location was,
- 16:17Speaker 13: tossed out behind a dirt pile, just out in the desert.
- 16:20Speaker 13: So then today we kept searching and that's when these
- 16:23Speaker 13: guys got to see information. What about three o'clock today,
- 16:26Speaker 13: we know that this Robert guy took Chase out to
- 16:30Speaker 13: the desert where Dylan is the day Dylan witnessing.
- 16:33Speaker 3: The man Dylan's mother mentioned would turn out to be
- 16:36Speaker 3: Robert of Vilays. He had an active arrest warrant and
- 16:39Speaker 3: reportedly gave Chase Venstra a ride to Dylan's place on
- 16:42Speaker 3: the day he disappeared. The family also suspected that Chase
- 16:46Speaker 3: could be at Robert's house, so finding him became a
- 16:49Speaker 3: priority in locating their prime suspect and hopefully Dylan himself.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Officers quickly moved to track down Robert of Vilays, and
- 16:59Speaker 3: their first stop was Robert's residence, where they came into
- 17:02Speaker 3: contact with his mother.
- 17:05Speaker 4: I don't know who that would be. Okay, I'm sorry,
- 17:10Speaker 4: but I have no idea.
- 17:12Speaker 8: He's supposed to be hanging out with a guy named
- 17:14Speaker 8: Chase and Robert and Robert.
- 17:16Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know. Chase might have an idea, but
- 17:21Speaker 4: my son's been homesick, and he's been in bed all
- 17:24Speaker 4: day and he's been home all night. I don't know.
- 17:28Speaker 4: I'm just wondering.
- 17:30Speaker 2: So, who's all in your house?
- 17:32Speaker 6: Nobody?
- 17:32Speaker 2: Nobody's in there right now.
- 17:33Speaker 4: No, my son is in his trailer and where's that
- 17:37Speaker 4: at in the backyard.
- 17:38Speaker 2: In the backyard.
- 17:39Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we're just trying to we're just trying to
- 17:41Speaker 6: find it.
- 17:42Speaker 4: And no, no one came home with him.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Nobody came home with him. No, okay, is Chase here?
- 17:47Speaker 4: No, I don't let Chase on my property. After I
- 17:50Speaker 4: found him inside my home.
- 17:51Speaker 20: When I was at home, we were we were told
- 17:54Speaker 20: that there's possibly a kid. Yeah, no, three look around
- 18:02Speaker 20: like he's not being there. I see, that's why we're here, man.
- 18:04Speaker 2: I not about a car.
- 18:05Speaker 4: Look around if you want to, but there's a litre
- 18:08Speaker 4: about my son, and he's sleeping.
- 18:10Speaker 3: After speaking with Robert's mother, officers conducted a thorough search
- 18:14Speaker 3: of the property. I found no sign of Dylan or Chase,
- 18:17Speaker 3: but they soon located Robert inside his trailer and he
- 18:21Speaker 3: was quickly arrested and transported to the police station for questioning.
- 18:25Speaker 3: When detectives placed Robert in the interrogation room, they expected
- 18:29Speaker 3: resistance and lies, but instead, Robert didn't hold back.
- 18:34Speaker 17: So, you said that Chase had taken guns from somebody.
- 18:37Speaker 21: Did he admit to you like where he got his gun?
- 18:40Speaker 17: No, this is what I thought.
- 18:41Speaker 11: He got arrested for the first time. What he was
- 18:45Speaker 11: in jail for. When I came back, I asked Chase that.
- 18:48Speaker 15: I was like, hey, man, I.
- 18:50Speaker 11: Heard you got arrested. He's like, Nah, that's just all
- 18:52Speaker 11: Montello gossip blah blah blah blah blah.
- 18:55Speaker 22: Right, so I'm kind of weary after giving him a ride.
- 18:58Speaker 5: I tried to show.
- 19:01Speaker 11: One of my mom's friends sting out there in the
- 19:03Speaker 11: community for a long time. He gave me his scenario.
- 19:06Speaker 22: He thinks Chase did it too.
- 19:07Speaker 8: Okay.
- 19:08Speaker 11: Now I don't know the time frames because I am
- 19:10Speaker 11: not good with time.
- 19:11Speaker 22: Like I told you guys, I did the best I
- 19:13Speaker 22: could by contacting the store lady and asking her what
- 19:17Speaker 22: a day I gave Chase a ride?
- 19:19Speaker 6: No, because I.
- 19:19Speaker 11: Didn't even know what day I gave Chase a ride.
- 19:21Speaker 6: I didn't even know a day that kids him a mission.
- 19:23Speaker 6: I didn't even know there was a kid missiing until
- 19:26Speaker 6: the Nevada Police.
- 19:28Speaker 11: Came knocking on our door wanted to search our residents.
- 19:30Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
- 19:32Speaker 11: And that's the truth.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Although Robert admitted giving Chase Venstra a ride, he couldn't
- 19:37Speaker 3: provide any clear information on Chase's current whereabouts and maintained
- 19:41Speaker 3: his innocence. Throughout the rest of his interview, however, Robert
- 19:45Speaker 3: made one thing clear. He believed Chase was involved and
- 19:49Speaker 3: might have even killed Dylan. The following night, something strange
- 19:59Speaker 3: happened at Dylan's trailer in the Looten Desert. It seemed
- 20:03Speaker 3: someone had quietly returned and tampered with items inside. An
- 20:07Speaker 3: officer was quickly sent out to photograph and document the scene,
- 20:11Speaker 3: accompanied by Dylan's father, who'd share more details about the
- 20:15Speaker 3: troubling discovery.
- 20:16Speaker 8: Okay, a shotgun is in a house in Rigby. Okay,
- 20:19Speaker 8: that is my grandfather's that I bought, and he has
- 20:22Speaker 8: a room up there, and that was the forty. He's
- 20:26Speaker 8: not in here. We looked in his camper, didn't find it.
- 20:33Speaker 8: No key fop to the trucks. When I broke the
- 20:35Speaker 8: window of alarm and off, we undered the battery.
- 20:38Speaker 2: No key fop.
- 20:41Speaker 6: We looked in his tamper and all the cupboards and stuff.
- 20:43Speaker 8: Looked in the bathroom.
- 20:45Speaker 6: Nothing. My mother came here.
- 20:47Speaker 8: She's real badness, right, So my sister was here. Were
- 20:49Speaker 8: all out searching. She used the bathroom, Dylan had flush
- 20:52Speaker 8: to the seating. Here's really nasty. So my sister went
- 20:55Speaker 8: in and cleaned it. Still no gun. Later, my son
- 20:59Speaker 8: and jad came in and the gun was sitting on
- 21:02Speaker 8: a sink. It's outside of the bathroom, but right by
- 21:05Speaker 8: the bathroom door where the toilet in the shower is.
- 21:08Speaker 8: But it's not in the bathroom. The gun was sitting
- 21:10Speaker 8: right there with the with the clip outside of it. Okay,
- 21:15Speaker 8: sitting there, So my son and JD didn't think much
- 21:17Speaker 8: of it. They grabbed the gun put it in my truck.
- 21:21Speaker 8: I didn't think much of it.
- 21:22Speaker 6: Although they found the gun, I don't know.
- 21:24Speaker 8: Then we started realizing that it wasn't there when my
- 21:26Speaker 8: sister cleaned the bathroom for my mom to use and
- 21:29Speaker 8: all that, and it was there.
- 21:32Speaker 3: This discovery was an alarming indication that someone was actively
- 21:36Speaker 3: trying to cover up their involvement in Dylan's disappearance. But
- 21:41Speaker 3: his father had one more thing to share, something about
- 21:45Speaker 3: an old confrontation with someone police hadn't yet fully considered
- 21:49Speaker 3: in their investigation.
- 21:51Speaker 2: What was Chase's ties to out here.
- 21:54Speaker 8: I don't know about Chase, Okay, hardly, but the whole
- 21:57Speaker 8: town knows. In the whole town or just Gid's a
- 22:01Speaker 8: crazy place. They're just all right now. They're all nuty
- 22:06Speaker 8: for one thing. The only people that I know of
- 22:08Speaker 8: that really were in contact with Dylan is I hear
- 22:10Speaker 8: the Chase guy didn't know it, but Don and Jim.
- 22:14Speaker 8: Jim was the guy you the place, you guys, you know, Okay,
- 22:18Speaker 8: Jim came out here and helped. Jim came to Rigby
- 22:21Speaker 8: where I live. I live at Rigby and Idol Falls area.
- 22:25Speaker 8: Dylan bots like eight hundred pigs or something from the Midwest.
- 22:29Speaker 8: When the pandemic hit whatever, that drona. They brought him
- 22:32Speaker 8: to my farm last pissed and Jim was there and
- 22:36Speaker 8: I at least told me to get the hell out
- 22:38Speaker 8: of here. He called Dylan, told me blow my head off.
- 22:42Speaker 8: Dylan called me.
- 22:42Speaker 2: He got all mad.
- 22:44Speaker 8: So when I found that he wasn't blow my head off,
- 22:46Speaker 8: I had to go see. And he's walking down the
- 22:48Speaker 8: lane on the farm with a big old pitch to
- 22:51Speaker 8: wom My dad called it down and called me down.
- 22:54Speaker 8: Then he came back to this winner to my shop
- 22:56Speaker 8: to work on that sea truck. Fine, everything was fine,
- 22:59Speaker 8: and I reallyzed his Stillan's friend like, I'm not going
- 23:02Speaker 8: to worry about this, and what I mean, I got
- 23:03Speaker 8: it bentize.
- 23:04Speaker 3: This so, according to Dylan's father, there were no further
- 23:09Speaker 3: escalations after his confrontation with Jim Breanner. At the time,
- 23:13Speaker 3: at this point, no one had any real reason to
- 23:16Speaker 3: suspect Jim Brainer or Donald Hatley. After all, they'd been
- 23:20Speaker 3: actively helping the family, joining search and rescue efforts, and
- 23:23Speaker 3: fully cooperating with police. However, the confrontation described by Dylan's
- 23:28Speaker 3: father was serious enough for the officer to take note
- 23:31Speaker 3: of it. After leaving the scene, he passed this information
- 23:34Speaker 3: to detectives, prompting a deeper look into Jim Brenner's past,
- 23:38Speaker 3: and what detectives uncovered wasn't entirely unexpected. A criminal past
- 23:45Speaker 3: including convictions for aggravated assaults and multiple weapons charges, as
- 23:49Speaker 3: well as a pre existing federal active warrant for being
- 23:52Speaker 3: a restricted person in possession of a firearm. Brenner's violent
- 23:57Speaker 3: history and his close proximity to Dylan's farm we're enough
- 24:00Speaker 3: for detectives to flank him as a person of interest
- 24:03Speaker 3: alongside their primary suspect, Chase Venstra. The following day, officers
- 24:13Speaker 3: moved quickly to serve Brenner's arrest warrant and bring him
- 24:16Speaker 3: in for questioning. They soon spotted him casually heading back
- 24:20Speaker 3: towards the Green Shed with his close friend Donald Hatley.
- 24:24Speaker 1: What could I do for you, guys, Well, we just
- 24:27Speaker 1: had a couple of people wanted to talk to you about.
- 24:29Speaker 9: We're still trying to figure stuff out, you know.
- 24:32Speaker 2: And just have you guys heard or seen anything in
- 24:36Speaker 2: these days?
- 24:37Speaker 6: Anything new?
- 24:38Speaker 2: This trash over here?
- 24:41Speaker 1: I know names, I know people, I know they nobody
- 24:45Speaker 1: seems to want to listen to me.
- 24:49Speaker 2: They're the ones coming over stealing shit, are they? Yeah?
- 24:52Speaker 1: Chase Vestra, Chase Vestra and Robert Ebilis are the one
- 24:57Speaker 1: that robbed Michael Moore up here. But everybody keeps saying
- 25:01Speaker 1: that we need willing You need to check freaking ratch
- 25:06Speaker 1: that's over there.
- 25:07Speaker 2: And people are going to start talking.
- 25:08Speaker 1: That's the only way you're gonna find out about Dylan.
- 25:11Speaker 10: There's a war he arrest and letting you know about
- 25:13Speaker 10: it now from Marylands or to USOL. We're gonna pick
- 25:17Speaker 10: you up, take you in jail with.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Oh god damn it.
- 25:20Speaker 17: So what I want to do?
- 25:21Speaker 10: I know before you don't place your hands on your
- 25:23Speaker 10: head for me. Interlock your fingers, okay.
- 25:27Speaker 3: Jim pointing fingers that Robert and Chase was understandable given
- 25:32Speaker 3: witness statements and allegations, but Jim's own criminal past and
- 25:36Speaker 3: proximity to Dylan made him equally suspicious. Detectives transported him
- 25:40Speaker 3: to the police station, planning to use the unrelated warrant
- 25:44Speaker 3: charges as an opportunity to question him further about Dylan.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Though they didn't expect much new information from Jim, this
- 25:51Speaker 3: routine questioning was about to lead to an unexpected breakthrough.
- 25:57Speaker 6: The war.
- 25:59Speaker 23: Has an issue, and we're obbly.
- 26:05Speaker 22: I don't know if you realize that there's other bigger
- 26:07Speaker 22: problems going all.
- 26:08Speaker 23: Over there and this not here to talk to you
- 26:11Speaker 23: about about.
- 26:12Speaker 11: Warns you just stop rot warrens, Okay, we would like
- 26:15Speaker 11: to talk to you about the other thing considered going
- 26:17Speaker 11: out when we got to you. I understand if i'm
- 26:21Speaker 11: you know, I know him better than you do. I
- 26:23Speaker 11: work for him. That's why you're wonder like the said,
- 26:27Speaker 11: because I know he's knowing Dylan used to go in
- 26:30Speaker 11: the bar, and you've been bragging about how much money is.
- 26:33Speaker 11: Dylan never carried money on him what every thing would
- 26:36Speaker 11: credit card, but if he.
- 26:37Speaker 22: Did have one dollar in the wallet, he wouldn't give
- 26:41Speaker 22: it up, and I think this is a strong arm
- 26:43Speaker 22: of robbery. Somebody thought they see this little five five kids,
- 26:48Speaker 22: and they think they figured out who going to.
- 26:50Speaker 11: Get this guy.
- 26:51Speaker 6: We're going to rob this guy.
- 26:52Speaker 22: We're gonna intimidate him. Dylan's don't intimidate with the starar
- 26:56Speaker 22: and robbery here.
- 26:57Speaker 11: You believe it, Chase and Roberty, was there any reason
- 27:01Speaker 11: that any want to say you did it? If I
- 27:02Speaker 11: did this, I'd be one six. Well, there's gotten somebody
- 27:07Speaker 11: that's some six cent of the somewha. What about Donald.
- 27:11Speaker 11: I've known Don for over two years and Don's gone
- 27:14Speaker 11: where to help Ylan just like I have.
- 27:16Speaker 3: As expected, Jim Brainer's statements remained mostly consistent, and he
- 27:21Speaker 3: appeared genuinely convinced Chase, Venstraw and Robert of Villas had
- 27:25Speaker 3: something to do with Dylan's disappearance. But Brenner had more
- 27:29Speaker 3: details to share, details about Dylan himself and the dangerous
- 27:34Speaker 3: individuals he was attracting.
- 27:36Speaker 11: Another one, Robert Lee, just died ten years in prison for.
- 27:44Speaker 22: Shaw. I'm robbery Lane me Hole. About three weeks ago
- 27:49Speaker 22: assault from Salt Lake that bought ten acres land over Montello.
- 27:53Speaker 22: Two guys went into into his trailer, beat him up
- 27:56Speaker 22: with a pistol, whipped him rob dn took hisself and
- 28:01Speaker 22: made it so a vehicle would run. He had to
- 28:03Speaker 22: walk into town to call the police. There's a lot
- 28:05Speaker 22: of shit going on in Monteu.
- 28:07Speaker 6: If she don't want that they talk about being pistol lo.
- 28:11Speaker 6: The better down is that the one.
- 28:14Speaker 22: I needed to see.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Brenner would go on to mention several other people, mostly
- 28:19Speaker 3: convicted criminals, from the area, who could have had strong
- 28:22Speaker 3: motives to rob or even kill Dylan. Clearly he wasn't
- 28:27Speaker 3: exactly narrowing things down for detectives, but at least he
- 28:30Speaker 3: appeared fully cooperative. However, in just moments, Brenner would let
- 28:34Speaker 3: something slip, something that would unintentionally place him right at
- 28:39Speaker 3: the center of the suspect pool.
- 28:42Speaker 23: Dylan is the shy kid.
- 28:44Speaker 22: His world revolves around fractors, farming.
- 28:49Speaker 23: I mean, he had a couple of guns as his
- 28:50Speaker 23: dad gave him, and he never had a shotgun that
- 28:53Speaker 23: we found that that's up in Rigby. But he always
- 28:57Speaker 23: carried out of the backseat and the pist he had.
- 29:02Speaker 23: They found that, and he was afraid to keep that loaded.
- 29:07Speaker 23: He used to keep the gun in the console and
- 29:09Speaker 23: keep the loaded magazine. And I told him, I shoul
- 29:12Speaker 23: Villa needed you to learn how to use that thing
- 29:14Speaker 23: or put it somewhere, Lesard, that's going to get you killed, and.
- 29:19Speaker 6: Let's late for that. I was telling Hi Dad that too.
- 29:23Speaker 3: Needless to say, Jim's choice of words wasn't ideal, and
- 29:29Speaker 3: this wasn't the first time his statements had raised eyebrows,
- 29:32Speaker 3: as he'd previously made a similar remark when Dylan first
- 29:35Speaker 3: went missing, speaking about him as if he was already dead.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Although several days had passed and the possibility of foul
- 29:44Speaker 3: play was growing, detectives still found his comments odd, but
- 29:48Speaker 3: with the rest of Branner's interview yielding nothing new, investigators
- 29:52Speaker 3: booked him into jail on his unrelated firearm possession warrant,
- 29:56Speaker 3: giving them time to further investigate any possible involvement. Shortly
- 30:04Speaker 3: after Jim Brenner was taken into custody, officers finally located
- 30:08Speaker 3: Chase Venstra and arrested him on his unrelated warrant out
- 30:12Speaker 3: of Montana. Detectives wasted no time bringing him in for questioning,
- 30:15Speaker 3: but in this first interview, Chase flatly denied any involvement,
- 30:20Speaker 3: insisting locals were spreading false rumors to frame him. With
- 30:24Speaker 3: no hard evidence, investigators booked him into jail, but with
- 30:27Speaker 3: a strategy in mind. They placed him in a cell
- 30:30Speaker 3: directly above Jim Brenner, quietly hoping they would interact and
- 30:34Speaker 3: at one point one of them might talk or slip
- 30:38Speaker 3: up pretty quickly. This tactic paid off when Chase reached
- 30:41Speaker 3: out to detectives for another interview, claiming he knew exactly
- 30:45Speaker 3: what happened to Dylan and could solve the entire case.
- 30:49Speaker 6: To talk to you, Karas called you.
- 30:52Speaker 2: She actually didn't call me.
- 30:54Speaker 6: Ross called me and said that you were looking to
- 30:58Speaker 6: to talk about with him? Talk about about Brenner?
- 31:01Speaker 2: Was it Brenner?
- 31:02Speaker 6: And uh, just a case basically right. They put me
- 31:05Speaker 6: in there. I'm gonna sell above Brenner. I've gotten talked
- 31:10Speaker 6: to him. I've talked to other cell mates.
- 31:13Speaker 8: I know a lot.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Okay, I know a lot.
- 31:17Speaker 6: Well, I can put this thing to best to bed
- 31:19Speaker 6: for you. Well, I mean, honestly, to be straightforward with you,
- 31:23Speaker 6: I can't. I can't do anything about the charges me myself.
- 31:26Speaker 6: Right there. They got to be federal, right, No, there's
- 31:29Speaker 6: there's state I.
- 31:30Speaker 2: Didn't even know that there were any so.
- 31:33Speaker 6: I wanted to charges drop it. I'll call this case
- 31:36Speaker 6: for you.
- 31:36Speaker 15: I'm not able to do it, so I just came
- 31:39Speaker 15: to talk to you to see if you had something
- 31:40Speaker 15: you wanted to tell me.
- 31:42Speaker 6: I've got everything to tell you. But when I'm out
- 31:45Speaker 6: of these chains and then my clothes, and that's what
- 31:47Speaker 6: I'm saying, I can't make that kind of deal with you.
- 31:49Speaker 6: So that was what was fine. If you don't want to,
- 31:52Speaker 6: that's what I want. That's fine.
- 31:53Speaker 8: I want to.
- 31:54Speaker 6: I just want to be left. I don't want. But
- 31:57Speaker 6: we got an ultrasound on my new baby tomorrow. I
- 32:00Speaker 6: want to go be there with her this time.
- 32:03Speaker 15: Baby.
- 32:05Speaker 6: I'm applying for a job with the state out there.
- 32:08Speaker 6: I hope I'm dealing with this thing. I've been drugged
- 32:11Speaker 6: through the mud with this thing with Dylan. I know
- 32:13Speaker 6: how it happened, where it happened.
- 32:14Speaker 17: When I know what was used in aware of that, Okay,
- 32:21Speaker 17: I can s I put this whole thing to bed
- 32:22Speaker 17: for you guys, well, okay, and I hate to.
- 32:26Speaker 6: I wish you could, but there's not anything.
- 32:28Speaker 2: I can offer you.
- 32:29Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate to be that way with him, but
- 32:31Speaker 6: I've got to look out for me.
- 32:33Speaker 3: Unfortunately for detectives, their strategy backfired. Now Chase wanted to
- 32:38Speaker 3: bargain his freedom in exchange for information he claimed to have,
- 32:43Speaker 3: but investigators had little reason to trust Chase, and without
- 32:47Speaker 3: an agreement to drop his gun charges, the interview ended
- 32:50Speaker 3: without providing any new leads. On June twenty eighth, exactly
- 32:59Speaker 3: I'm month since Dylan went missing, police were called out
- 33:02Speaker 3: after a witness reported finding something suspicious in the desert,
- 33:06Speaker 3: a burial site with clear signs of something dead inside.
- 33:14Speaker 6: There's mills something.
- 33:19Speaker 17: It wasn't like this.
- 33:20Speaker 2: This wasn't here either. Oh okay, go ahead and step away.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Yeah he killed it.
- 33:33Speaker 8: He killed it.
- 33:35Speaker 24: Yeah, So this is the only one that you found.
- 33:41Speaker 2: It wasn't like the.
- 33:44Speaker 6: Opening, Yeah, so how how did it look like? And
- 33:55Speaker 6: this was flat? So this was on top and then
- 34:00Speaker 6: and then there was another.
- 34:07Speaker 2: So there is a grace.
- 34:11Speaker 24: But there appears to be maybe two dogs, maybe two
- 34:19Speaker 24: or three dogs. Yeah that's not true, Yeah, two or
- 34:25Speaker 24: three dogs inside. It looks like it's been here for
- 34:28Speaker 24: some time. But there the person the RP is telling
- 34:35Speaker 24: me that it didn't look like this yesterday, that somebody
- 34:38Speaker 24: had come over and opened it up for some reason.
- 34:44Speaker 24: I will I do have some uh some footprints around
- 34:48Speaker 24: this too.
- 34:50Speaker 3: The burial site contained dead dogs buried beneath, not exactly
- 34:55Speaker 3: what police were expecting, though it meant there still might
- 34:59Speaker 3: be hope for Dylan. Just as the investigation began to
- 35:03Speaker 3: settle back into a frustrating standstill, police received a call
- 35:07Speaker 3: from someone they knew well, Jim Brainer's close friend, Donald Hateley.
- 35:13Speaker 3: He'd been around since the early days of the search,
- 35:16Speaker 3: helping the family and cooperating with officers, but now weeks
- 35:20Speaker 3: into the investigation, he wanted to speak with investigators, claiming
- 35:24Speaker 3: he had important information to share, something he'd kept hidden
- 35:28Speaker 3: ever since Dylan vanished. Detectives immediately arranged to meet with Donald,
- 35:34Speaker 3: where they would finally uncover one of the first truly
- 35:37Speaker 3: dimn and clues in the case.
- 35:39Speaker 25: Oh, I'll tell you so, Okay, I really don't think
- 35:44Speaker 25: it as anything, can do anything. You guys found the
- 35:47Speaker 25: ammunitions stuff with chios, yeah, and why powder and fusimistic king.
- 35:53Speaker 25: But he figured out would be a reason day ol
- 35:59Speaker 25: stick or say or so he brought his black caught
- 36:02Speaker 25: to rights, his.
- 36:02Speaker 10: Old black cause.
- 36:03Speaker 6: Okay too, I appreciate that.
- 36:07Speaker 10: Where are those?
- 36:09Speaker 21: I put one buy in my bed, my bedroom, the
- 36:13Speaker 21: other one's leaned up in the corner accident taking.
- 36:15Speaker 6: On the couch.
- 36:16Speaker 10: And when did he bring you after billing? Oh yeah,
- 36:21Speaker 10: definitely after why basically safety went last time?
- 36:29Speaker 21: You know, they had him in hold him for over
- 36:31Speaker 21: a year and all he got out, everything he had
- 36:35Speaker 21: was gone.
- 36:36Speaker 10: Everything. I can't ask you what's going through gyms out
- 36:38Speaker 10: of that time, but what's going through yours when he
- 36:40Speaker 10: brings you his rifles and a six gun?
- 36:44Speaker 21: Honestly, like he was scared that you know, he was
- 36:48Speaker 21: going to be detained for six months or year? And
- 36:50Speaker 21: who was everything he had? He said he had no
- 36:53Speaker 21: idea what happened to his horses last time? Allway's gun,
- 36:57Speaker 21: everything you own disappeared?
- 36:59Speaker 10: So why do you think he's did detained here? Why
- 37:01Speaker 10: does he think he's going to get detained for six months.
- 37:03Speaker 21: Just because he's a fella and he could be held
- 37:07Speaker 21: or so he knows he's the fella and he knows
- 37:09Speaker 21: he shouldn't have him, and so.
- 37:10Speaker 10: He all right, I don't know, I don't know.
- 37:12Speaker 21: According to him, a black power primitive weapon has not
- 37:16Speaker 21: considered firearm now if he had brought me a firearm,
- 37:18Speaker 21: I have said no.
- 37:19Speaker 10: Okay, so sometime after Yllan youmever, how long after, I mean,
- 37:24Speaker 10: it's only been three weeks now. It seems like foreh.
- 37:30Speaker 21: I wish that kid had just got walking down the
- 37:31Speaker 21: roads starn to kick his.
- 37:32Speaker 10: Mut I wish too. But the longer this goes, the
- 37:35Speaker 10: lescted outlooks.
- 37:36Speaker 17: Yeah.
- 37:37Speaker 3: Donald's admission couldn't have come at a worse time for
- 37:41Speaker 3: Jim Brainer. Although Donald explained that Jim hid the guns
- 37:45Speaker 3: at his place out of fear of losing them, the
- 37:47Speaker 3: timing was deeply suspicious, and for detectives this was enough
- 37:51Speaker 3: to place Brainner at the center of suspicion alongside Chase Venstra.
- 37:55Speaker 3: Following this discovery, the firearms were seized and Jim Brainer
- 37:59Speaker 3: picked up in a additional firearm possession charge, keeping him
- 38:02Speaker 3: in jail. As the investigation continued, but detectives still lacked
- 38:06Speaker 3: concrete evidence against anyone, and crucial DNA results from the
- 38:10Speaker 3: bloody boots found near the shed were yet to return.
- 38:13Speaker 3: It seemed like the case might stall for a while.
- 38:22Speaker 3: Over a year would pass with detectives quietly making progress,
- 38:27Speaker 3: including crucial DNA results, but still no sign of Dylan himself,
- 38:32Speaker 3: and no one held responsible. That is until December twenty
- 38:38Speaker 3: twenty three, when investigators got a call that would change everything.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Jim Brainer's cellmate, who'd spent months locked up alongside him,
- 38:49Speaker 3: claimed to know exactly what had happened to Dylan. Detectives
- 38:55Speaker 3: quickly arranged an interview, expecting another bargaining scenario similar to
- 38:59Speaker 3: Chase Event's, but what the cell made twould reveal instead
- 39:03Speaker 3: was a chilling murder confession.
- 39:07Speaker 6: Sir, thank you. So they had said that you wanted
- 39:13Speaker 6: us to come back, that you had more information, yeah,
- 39:17Speaker 6: or did you have information before? They just didn't give
- 39:19Speaker 6: us all of No, I didn't.
- 39:20Speaker 15: I didn't really have I didn't really have a whole
- 39:22Speaker 15: lot of Then I got plenty of information. Now I
- 39:28Speaker 15: got information. It didn't probably helped maybe even keep from
- 39:32Speaker 15: cutting the deal that he wants to cut deal with.
- 39:36Speaker 15: On his right hand, nobody has noticed. He's got a
- 39:40Speaker 15: bite mark. He got a bite from Dylan. Rounds to
- 39:45Speaker 15: twenty two going till Dylan shot Yeah, the twenty two.
- 39:51Speaker 6: Did he tell you that, Yeah, tell you that.
- 39:55Speaker 15: Like two days ago, three days ago, go yeah, go
- 39:57Speaker 15: through them. He said it was like six o'clock in
- 40:00Speaker 15: the morning. He was in there taking the ship, and
- 40:03Speaker 15: then he heard a decent truck drive by the place
- 40:08Speaker 15: he was standing in and when he got out there,
- 40:11Speaker 15: he had had his forty five, a gun that he
- 40:14Speaker 15: put in a bowl over hoaster, and Dylan had picked
- 40:19Speaker 15: it up off the salt horses that he had.
- 40:21Speaker 6: He'd thrown his stuff all around, moved it so he
- 40:23Speaker 6: could put the truck in.
- 40:24Speaker 15: The said the ship, yeah, and Dylan was holding the
- 40:28Speaker 15: forty five, and he said he got really pissed off
- 40:32Speaker 15: at him, start doelling at every tell him get the
- 40:34Speaker 15: fuck out of there. And Dylan's took the gun and
- 40:36Speaker 15: fired it right beside his ear. That's why he came
- 40:38Speaker 15: here out of his right, right right out.
- 40:40Speaker 6: Of here, he said.
- 40:42Speaker 15: He grabbed, he grabbed, He grabbed the gun and was
- 40:44Speaker 15: fighting for it, he said, and they ended up on
- 40:46Speaker 15: the ground and Dylan Dylan.
- 40:48Speaker 6: Ended up shooting himself in the leg with the with
- 40:50Speaker 6: the forty five. And then he said that while they
- 40:56Speaker 6: were fighting, the gun got fired like here three times.
- 40:58Speaker 6: He said. There's a bullet hole in the side of
- 40:59Speaker 6: the started building out that you can see. He said,
- 41:03Speaker 6: when you guys, he was out there talking to him
- 41:05Speaker 6: and standing in the shed or some standing out there.
- 41:08Speaker 6: He said he was sitting there looking at it.
- 41:11Speaker 15: And then he showed me a scar on his thumb too,
- 41:15Speaker 15: where he had stuck his hand in in the gun
- 41:18Speaker 15: that was trying to keep doing from firing it again,
- 41:20Speaker 15: but he was clicking and clicking and it was in it.
- 41:24Speaker 15: His whole right hand was was dammaged at one time,
- 41:28Speaker 15: but the bite markers having it very seable. And the
- 41:30Speaker 15: body is somewhere right there close by. He said, he's
- 41:34Speaker 15: seen tire marks over it where you guys have been driving.
- 41:37Speaker 15: Somebody's been driving on it.
- 41:39Speaker 6: Just give you any where there's a It's just there's
- 41:44Speaker 6: a lot of.
- 41:45Speaker 11: Country out there.
- 41:45Speaker 6: Yeah, he says, in the high desert. Did he say
- 41:47Speaker 6: that it was close to where he killed him. Yeah,
- 41:51Speaker 6: it's it's close. It's close somewhere there where he killed
- 41:54Speaker 6: him and gave me he gave he gave like a
- 41:56Speaker 6: twenty five mile circumference.
- 41:58Speaker 19: And by the way, yeah, okay, so he heard Dylan
- 42:04Speaker 19: dry by in his truck and deal in his back
- 42:07Speaker 19: of the truck into the green shed.
- 42:09Speaker 6: Now he said that.
- 42:10Speaker 15: He said the truck was still parked out so it
- 42:13Speaker 15: wasn't yeah, yeah, no, it wasn't back in and and
- 42:17Speaker 15: that's when they had the fight.
- 42:18Speaker 6: They had the fight and everyone on in there. He said,
- 42:21Speaker 6: that's the ground on the gun. I turned. He said
- 42:25Speaker 6: he heard it turning. Look it was a revolver. Yeah,
- 42:27Speaker 6: it was okay.
- 42:28Speaker 15: He said, you got to said the chance were dealing
- 42:30Speaker 15: and let quick biting him on his wrist.
- 42:33Speaker 6: He that latched onto him and he said. He got
- 42:36Speaker 6: up and he took off out and that's when he
- 42:37Speaker 6: got he got to twenty two. Dylan told him and
- 42:40Speaker 6: bring his aspect there or he's gonna shoot the horse.
- 42:43Speaker 6: The horse was standing outside into the green shed. Yeah,
- 42:46Speaker 6: talk about yea he did. Horse was standing out there
- 42:49Speaker 6: eating greening out of the back of the truck. And
- 42:50Speaker 6: then from what you're saying, did you run back of
- 42:54Speaker 6: the trailer and getting down too, there's a there. No,
- 42:58Speaker 6: he said, it was behind the bags on the grain bags.
- 43:01Speaker 2: He said.
- 43:01Speaker 6: He took three shots at him and there all head shots.
- 43:03Speaker 6: Say one of the great grades, Dylan on side of face,
- 43:08Speaker 6: he pointed, just like this face, so it could be bred.
- 43:12Speaker 6: You know, I can tell you it was right then
- 43:14Speaker 6: he said two more shots and shout him mad, and
- 43:16Speaker 6: I killed him.
- 43:17Speaker 2: And then what did he do?
- 43:19Speaker 6: Then?
- 43:19Speaker 15: Then he got He said he burned all his clothes.
- 43:22Speaker 15: He said, after he took care of everything, he burned
- 43:23Speaker 15: all the clothes.
- 43:26Speaker 3: The revelations from Brainer's cellmate were chilling, to say the least.
- 43:31Speaker 3: According to him, the argument that ended Dylan's life stemmed
- 43:35Speaker 3: from Brainer being irritated with Dylan for repeatedly using the
- 43:39Speaker 3: shed he considered his own workspace. After killing Dylan, Brenner
- 43:44Speaker 3: attempted to cover up his crime by loading Dylan's body
- 43:47Speaker 3: onto a backo, burying him deep in a remote stretch
- 43:50Speaker 3: of the desert nearby. He then concealed the guns at
- 43:53Speaker 3: Donald Hateley's place and discarded Dylan's phone in a nearby pond,
- 43:58Speaker 3: unaware it had recorded a damning, irrefutable proof of his crime.
- 44:03Speaker 3: In addition to this confession, detectives turned back to the
- 44:06Speaker 3: bloody boot DNA evidence they received a few months earlier.
- 44:09Speaker 3: The state lab report confirms the blood belonged to Dylan,
- 44:12Speaker 3: but they also found touch DNA matching Jim Brenner on
- 44:16Speaker 3: the boots. Using this evidence, investigators then secured a search
- 44:21Speaker 3: warrant for Brenner's phone, and by analyzing its data, they
- 44:24Speaker 3: confirmed his device had traveled toward a nearby pond the
- 44:28Speaker 3: day Dylan vanished. After searching the pond, they retrieved Dylan's phone,
- 44:33Speaker 3: containing crucial evidence, a video clearly showing Jim Brenner in
- 44:37Speaker 3: a blood stained shirt cleaning a gun. At this point,
- 44:41Speaker 3: there was no longer any doubt Jim Brenner killed Dylan
- 44:45Speaker 3: rounds and had been hiding in plain sight all along.
- 44:55Speaker 3: Despite the overwhelming evidence, Brenner still sought to negotiate. Prosecutors
- 45:01Speaker 3: were preparing for an aggravated murder trial, but still lacked
- 45:04Speaker 3: Dylan's body, so Brenner offered prosecutors a deal he would
- 45:08Speaker 3: reveal the location of Dylan's body in exchange for reduced charges.
- 45:13Speaker 3: In spring of twenty twenty four, Brenner guided law enforcement
- 45:17Speaker 3: to Dylan's remains in the loosened desert. The burial site
- 45:21Speaker 3: was several miles from the grainshed property and was so
- 45:24Speaker 3: well hidden that investigators had driven over the spot during
- 45:27Speaker 3: earlier searches without noticing it. Inside the grave, they located
- 45:31Speaker 3: Dylan's skeletal remains. Only bones and fragments of his clothing survived.
- 45:38Speaker 3: On May fifteenth. That same year, Brenner pled Guilsey to
- 45:42Speaker 3: second degree murder and two counts of firearm possession in
- 45:46Speaker 3: exchange for dropping charges of desecrating remains at an unrelated
- 45:50Speaker 3: aggravated assault case. On July first, Brenner was sentenced to
- 45:55Speaker 3: one to fifteen years for second degree murder and two
- 45:58Speaker 3: additional one to five fifteen year sentences for the firearms charges.