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Feminist Movie Monday: Fresh · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: Stephan ever told your protection of I Heart Radio. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So before we get into this one, I just want
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Speaker 1: to put right at the top that we're going to
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Speaker 1: spoil the heck out of this movie, which is called
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Speaker 1: Fresh and it's on Hulu now. It came out in March,
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Speaker 1: early March, sore, and I'm going to give a content warning,
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Speaker 1: but the content morning is a spoiler because yeah, I
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Speaker 1: had no idea about this movie. I saw a few
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Speaker 1: people TikTok about it and tweet about it, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, okay, whatever, really no intentions in watching this movie. Annie, uh.
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Speaker 1: And then you're like, we must, you must watch this
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Speaker 1: movie and I was like what, So, yeah, yeah, because
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Speaker 1: I'm a good friend that way I have, I've like
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Speaker 1: really realized my love language is sharing entertainment that I
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Speaker 1: love with people. That is that is my thing. But
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Speaker 1: as we mentioned in Turning Red, we are doing two
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Speaker 1: movies this month and I think next month as well.
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Speaker 1: So here's hoping that you like these kind of deep dives, feminess,
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Speaker 1: deep depths into movies as much as we like them.
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Speaker 1: This is again, Andie's love language. So she's telling you
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Speaker 1: how much she loves you. It is true, It's true.
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Speaker 1: I get so excited about this stuff. And yes, so
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Speaker 1: all of that to say, the content warning, uh is
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Speaker 1: we are going to discuss some instances of sexual assault,
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Speaker 1: violence and just general gruesolness, grussness. Yeah. I also want
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Speaker 1: to say, we've got a lot of things that sort
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Speaker 1: of delayed this episode. Um. Some were like work related, Uh,
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Speaker 1: some are al g your illness. I do have some
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Speaker 1: weird like stuffing iss from drainage. It's not covid M.
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Speaker 1: I did check. However, it is some grossness. And so
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Speaker 1: my voice it's extra stuffy. So for those who hate
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Speaker 1: my voice, you're really gonna hate my voice today. Let's go. Well,
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Speaker 1: I have heard of some people who like that sounds,
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Speaker 1: so you know, okay, then there you go. For those people, welcome.
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Speaker 1: It's a whole episode of friends. Um. And also because
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Speaker 1: of these delays, uh, this episode, which was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be a feminist movie, Friday might be coming out on
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Speaker 1: a Monday, which means every Monday. Many might be coming
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Speaker 1: out of Friday just to really mess with you. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we love the switcher Roo. It's not April Fools except
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Speaker 1: delayed very much. Yes, And also this is coming out
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Speaker 1: on Easter Monday in that case, which is sort of funny. Well,
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Speaker 1: I did make the joke about us eating the body
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Speaker 1: of Christ. You did, You certainly did, my bad. It
3:06
Speaker 1: was a practice that I had in our religion and
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Speaker 1: my Christian religion. And also like, yes, this is absolutely
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Speaker 1: all about the sacrament, so you know, is that what
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Speaker 1: this is? It's maybe entronic, don't you think so. Also,
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Speaker 1: on top of all of this, I really wanted to
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Speaker 1: see this because I had heard like buzz about it.
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Speaker 1: I've seen the trailer a million times. Has the bastion
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Speaker 1: stand in it, so it's curious. Uh. And I watched
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Speaker 1: it the I think the day after it came out,
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Speaker 1: because I was gonna stay up really late and watch it.
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Speaker 1: And then I was responsible and I went to bed early. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I had a friend who was coming to hang
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Speaker 1: out with me in Atlanta and she lives she don't
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Speaker 1: live in Atlanta because she had a date for someone
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Speaker 1: she met online, and um, she was going to come
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Speaker 1: hang out with me after and I watched this movie
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Speaker 1: as she was like preparing to go on this date,
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Speaker 1: and I sent her frantic text where I didn't really
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Speaker 1: provide context and just said like, I've just seen this
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Speaker 1: movie and online dating and Cannibals and you need to
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Speaker 1: watch out. It's like, what are you talk and I
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Speaker 1: got the we're doing this for the show. You really
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Speaker 1: need to watch it. I can't wait for you to
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Speaker 1: watch it. We're gonna watch it together. And we did.
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Speaker 1: We did, we did, and I'm sure you'll talk about
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Speaker 1: your opinion on that later. Um traumatized. But then I
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Speaker 1: made my friend after her date was over, which did
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Speaker 1: not involve any of the things that were frantically texted
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Speaker 1: her about. Thank goodness, we watched it together and she,
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Speaker 1: as someone who is online dating, was like yes, this
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Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, that's so have to talk
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Speaker 1: about it because we had just done at the time,
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Speaker 1: our episodes on Bad Dating and Bad Dates. UM, and
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Speaker 1: I mean within the first five minutes, I was like, Oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is it, this is what I'm talking about. I
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Speaker 1: know we're gonna talk about it a bit, but like
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Speaker 1: there's a point when she's like, this is a nightmare. No,
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Speaker 1: this is not happening, and it is like, yeah, everything
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Speaker 1: about this is the nightmare. Yes, So if you want
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Speaker 1: to see our episodes about modern dating. We've done a
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Speaker 1: lot of them. We did one for like COVID dating
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Speaker 1: during the pandemic. We we did those two on the
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Speaker 1: Bad Dates, We've done like online dating in general. We've
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Speaker 1: done a lot around this topic. I mean, at this
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Speaker 1: point in our age hitting forty, we have seen a
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Speaker 1: real big evolution of dating and what that looks like today,
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Speaker 1: I mean a huge And we talked about it with
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Speaker 1: Sex in the City and how significantly changed even since
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Speaker 1: and then like, yeah, so it's inevitable that we would
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Speaker 1: be talking about those. But yeah, this movie is pinpoints
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Speaker 1: every nightmare. It does, it does, and it has you know,
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Speaker 1: I love some good symbolism and metaphors, so it's got
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Speaker 1: a lot of that going on. And it also has
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Speaker 1: a conversation about the difference between online dating and more
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Speaker 1: traditional dating, which we're going to talk about as well.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely see our episodes on bad Dates, because
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Speaker 1: this is it's one for the ages. This is it,
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Speaker 1: this is it. Okay, So let's talk about the plot.
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Speaker 1: Fresh is a two dark comedy about online dating, dating
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Speaker 1: in general, meat cutes, very funny, UM, really bad dates
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Speaker 1: like really bad dates um, and friendships between women It
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Speaker 1: was directed by Mimi Cave and Lauren con did the screenplay.
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Speaker 1: It stars Daisy Edgar Jones is Noah, Sebastian Stand is Steve,
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Speaker 1: Jonica t Gives as Molly, and Andrea Bong as Penny. Um.
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Speaker 1: Since it came out, has generally received positive reviews, and
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Speaker 1: it stirred up a lot of conversation about modern dating.
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Speaker 1: A lot of think pieces you can find, which I
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Speaker 1: did and I enjoyed. But people, it got people talking.
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Speaker 1: They got people talking. Sure did It's sure did. Here
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Speaker 1: we are as part of the people who were talking
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Speaker 1: about it. Um. The movie follows Noah, a young woman
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Speaker 1: who is just exhausted and done with online dating, but
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Speaker 1: she keeps trying. Uh. It opens with her on this
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Speaker 1: terribly awkward and outright deplorable date with a man named
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Speaker 1: Chad Immediately, Oh Immediately, who tells her that women of
7:45
Speaker 1: their parents generation cared more about their appearance wow um,
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Speaker 1: that modern women wear baggy clothes like security blankets that
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Speaker 1: Noah would look good in. Address. Uh. He's really rude
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Speaker 1: to the waiter. He's takes her leftovers from her to
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Speaker 1: give to his brother, without really asking, He just kind
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Speaker 1: of takes them, does outside the restaurant, Chad goes to
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Speaker 1: kiss no and she stops him, telling him she doesn't
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Speaker 1: think that they're a match, and he tells her that
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Speaker 1: he was just being polite and good luck finding a man, bitch, which,
8:20
Speaker 1: by the way, I've seen happen so often. Yes, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is what we're talking about when we say like
8:28
Speaker 1: letting someone down gently and then they get mad. But
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Speaker 1: then if you actually let them down and say no,
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Speaker 1: then they get mad and they're like, I didn't want
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Speaker 1: you anyway. So this is a pity date. Yeah, for real.
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Speaker 1: Within five minutes you're infuriated by this whole thing. So
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Speaker 1: then you see Noah walking to her car. She has
8:49
Speaker 1: her keys in hand because she thinks she's being followed,
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Speaker 1: only to realize it was a false alarm. So there's
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Speaker 1: that kind of like already hanging over those things that
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Speaker 1: we've talked about to be a woman just existing. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The next day, she events to her friend Molly, who
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Speaker 1: is by about the date and date aga in general,
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Speaker 1: during a self defense class composed of all women and
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Speaker 1: taught by a man, which I also thought was interesting
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Speaker 1: because we talked about that and are kind of who's
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Speaker 1: making money in these self defense classes, and in this
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Speaker 1: self defense world, we are any tune, we are the kids.
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Speaker 1: When you use that phrase, the automatically means you're connected. Indeed,
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Speaker 1: Molly tells Noah that she doesn't need a man, or
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Speaker 1: anybody for that matter, that it's just Disney movies that
9:36
Speaker 1: messed with our heads are collective heads. And she says
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Speaker 1: Garriel gave up the whole damn sea for a man,
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Speaker 1: which I love, meaning Aerial from Little or Maide, just
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Speaker 1: something else we've talked about throughout the movie, which I
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Speaker 1: know you loved, Samantha. There are these scenes of eating,
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Speaker 1: very close up scenes of people biting into burgers and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um So cut to we see Noah
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Speaker 1: eating carrots while scrolling through a dating app. She messages
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Speaker 1: someone on there who has a picture of a dog
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Speaker 1: as their profile picture, and she says, you know a
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Speaker 1: cute dog, what's his name? And she gets some lewd
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Speaker 1: messages and a dickpic and response immediately, which again I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of us can relate. Um So, Frustrated,
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Speaker 1: she decides to go to the grocery store for more food,
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Speaker 1: and there she meets Steve, who flirts with her, charms
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Speaker 1: her gets her number. Noah later admits she didn't think
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Speaker 1: people met I r L anymore, which is yeah, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna come back to that point. Uh. They meet up
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Speaker 1: at a bar where Noah recognizes the bartender policy, someone
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Speaker 1: Molly had once dated. They go through the awkward first
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Speaker 1: date questions while getting more and more drunk. Noah reveals
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Speaker 1: she doesn't really have any family left, and Steve tells
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Speaker 1: her he's a plastic surgeon. Uh. Noah eventually admits she
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Speaker 1: hates dating. She hates the preamble, she hates the awkward questions,
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Speaker 1: that it all feels fake. She just wants something to
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Speaker 1: be real. Um. However, as they're about to part ways
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Speaker 1: at the end of the night, she says get and
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Speaker 1: starts making out with him. She takes them back to
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Speaker 1: her apartment, where they have sex. So before we go
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Speaker 1: on on the plot, I do have to ask, have
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Speaker 1: you ever been hit on in the grocery store during COVID?
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Speaker 1: In fact? Okay, so I had a friend. Yes, that's
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Speaker 1: in fact, she gets hit on the in the grocery
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Speaker 1: store all the time. I've never had that happen. Man,
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Speaker 1: Should I be offended or happy? Anyway? I just had
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Speaker 1: that moment because yeah, for one specific person, and she's amazing.
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Speaker 1: She gets hit it on a lot in grocery stores.
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Speaker 1: She went on two different dates. I used to get
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Speaker 1: hit on. Um. There were two places where I would
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Speaker 1: joke like, I can't go there because I will just
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Speaker 1: get hit on. One was there was a Starbucks on
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Speaker 1: Sydney Marcus that that like Starbucks across from all the
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Speaker 1: Target and stuff, I can't go in there. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what some curse I've gotten, like so many so
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Speaker 1: many uh what is that called prospects conquests? People have
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Speaker 1: come up to be very very certain that I would
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Speaker 1: love to go on a date with him there. And
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Speaker 1: then a place at our old office. If I would
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Speaker 1: just stand there, I swear to you, someone would come
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Speaker 1: out and ask me out and I'd be like, what
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Speaker 1: is this? What is this vortex? I get the yeah,
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Speaker 1: I get like approaches every now and a good But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't in the grocery store. I just thought that
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Speaker 1: was interesting because apparently there's also there was a whole
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Speaker 1: tactic that men used to hit on women in grocery stores.
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Speaker 1: I digress. So we'll go back to the plot. So, yes,
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Speaker 1: coming back the next day. Noah gives Molly the details
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Speaker 1: because we all do that. But when Molly goes to
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Speaker 1: cyberstock him online and yes, I am that friend that
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Speaker 1: does that and can find nothing, she tells Noah that
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Speaker 1: is a red flag. Noah ignores her and she goes
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Speaker 1: another date with Steve that involves some awkward but enjoyable
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Speaker 1: dancing and Noah's apartment. White people dancing awkward. I just
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Speaker 1: I want to put that in there as a non
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Speaker 1: white person, it was awkward. Um. When Noah tells Molly
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Speaker 1: that Steve invited her to go to a surprise location,
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Speaker 1: I feel like this is a love bombing part. Molly
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Speaker 1: calls red flags again. Molly is so smart, but Noah
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Speaker 1: is excited by the prospect. She sends Molly a blurry
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Speaker 1: picture of Steve and promises to keep her posted on
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Speaker 1: her location and how it's going. She does it while
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Speaker 1: and he's asleep too. Yeah, that's kind of creepy. Corrand part.
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Speaker 1: I will say it's necessary, but still creepy. When Steve
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Speaker 1: arrives to pick up Noah, he tells her that traffic
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Speaker 1: is terrible, so they'll need to stay at his place
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Speaker 1: overnight and they can leave for their weekend getaway in
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Speaker 1: the morning Red Flag. Noah tries to text Molly on
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Speaker 1: the way, but there's no service. Red Flag. They arrive
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Speaker 1: at Steve's house, this huge, lavish complex. He makes her
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Speaker 1: drink and it quickly becomes apparent it was drugged. By
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Speaker 1: the way, this is a side note, I've already told
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Speaker 1: any of this, but this is how I got introduced
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Speaker 1: to Sebastian Stands character. And once upon a time I
14:16
Speaker 1: can't wait to do her a little but I was like,
14:21
Speaker 1: this is familiar. Oh anyway, so she passes out and
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Speaker 1: the opening credit starts at thirty minutes and yeah, I
14:29
Speaker 1: was like, what is what? What is happening? M I
14:32
Speaker 1: think this is a whole new thing though, Right so
14:34
Speaker 1: until this point, if you knew nothing about it, you
14:37
Speaker 1: might think it was a rom com. But then things
14:39
Speaker 1: really take a turn. And that's kind of the review
14:41
Speaker 1: that I saw. Yeah, and that was one of the
14:43
Speaker 1: things I really struggled with because I agree, yeah, well,
14:50
Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting, and I think most people
14:53
Speaker 1: would go in like, you know what it's about. But
14:55
Speaker 1: there's a chance, like if you miss everything, you could
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Speaker 1: go been not didn't miss it, And that's my thing
15:03
Speaker 1: is like I would love that surprised, but also like
15:07
Speaker 1: I just know the importance of like trigger and content warnings,
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Speaker 1: and so I was very torn about like because I
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Speaker 1: had another friend who knew nothing about it, and I
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Speaker 1: really debated, and eventually I told her, like, it's not
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Speaker 1: what you think, and if you want me to explain
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Speaker 1: that more, it's gonna I said, It's gonna be fine,
15:27
Speaker 1: not what you think. But if if you want me
15:29
Speaker 1: to explain that more, then I will, because I just
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Speaker 1: like it could be very drugging victim during a date.
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Speaker 1: That's a huge trigger. It's like huge trigger for many
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Speaker 1: a women men because people still won't believe people who
15:44
Speaker 1: say I've been drugged or this isn't happen. And so
15:47
Speaker 1: because we know that that's a big thing that has happened,
15:50
Speaker 1: and yes it's been kind of dramatized for specific purposes
15:55
Speaker 1: and I hate that anyway, And then sometimes it becomes
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Speaker 1: a joke and that's a necessary but yeah, that in itself,
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Speaker 1: had I not been warned and had I watched this,
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Speaker 1: I would have been mad. I would have been piste off,
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Speaker 1: like ready to fight somebody. I just want to say that, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean like I said, even like the art on
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Speaker 1: Hulu for this movie, like I think you would know
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Speaker 1: this is not and the description is pretty clear, like
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Speaker 1: M I know I have a different theory about what
16:24
Speaker 1: they were trying to trick you with, but I will
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Speaker 1: get to that later. But yeah, and it's unfortunate because
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Speaker 1: I feel like of my group of women friends, it
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Speaker 1: was least half of us have been drugged in a
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Speaker 1: date situation or even just like out. So that's like
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Speaker 1: really upsetting to know. Yeah, all right, we'll speak of upsetting.
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Speaker 1: Uh Noah wakes up to find herself chained to the
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Speaker 1: floor in a subterranean room. Steve tells her that he
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Speaker 1: was going to sell her meat and her hair, that
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of money in it, that he has
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Speaker 1: no plans to kill her immediately, that the meat is
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Speaker 1: better fresh, that if she behaves, he won't hurt her.
17:19
Speaker 1: He also tells her that he won't rape her, that
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Speaker 1: he likes her. Uh no at first thinks it's a joke,
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Speaker 1: um and then tries to beg him to let her go,
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Speaker 1: attacks him, but Steve physically overpowers her very easily um
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Speaker 1: and leaves her alone in the room, telling her to
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Speaker 1: enjoy the sunset painted on the wall and that she'll
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Speaker 1: appreciate his cooking because he is a good cook. Noah
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Speaker 1: convinces Steve to let let her out to take a
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Speaker 1: shower uh and uses the opportunity to try to escape,
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Speaker 1: but she has quickly floarded and Steve cuts off her
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Speaker 1: ass as punishment. UM. Noah also learns that there are
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Speaker 1: two other women can find with her, Penny and Melissa.
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Speaker 1: While Melissa quote lost her mind, Penny is kind to her,
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Speaker 1: telling Noah that it isn't her fault. Um. Though she
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Speaker 1: is shocked that Steve slept with her, doesn't blame her,
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Speaker 1: but it is surprised. On top of that, Noah finds
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Speaker 1: a message while flipping through a magazine from another woman
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Speaker 1: that says, if you're reading this, it means he likes
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Speaker 1: you use it. And also, I just had to throw
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Speaker 1: in here because poof one of the tips the magazine
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Speaker 1: had to attract a man was just smile yeah oh
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Speaker 1: yeah yep. So Molly grows increasingly suspicious with a text
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Speaker 1: thank God She's receiving from Uh Noah's phone with a
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Speaker 1: little slew thing. She discovers that not only does it
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Speaker 1: seem Noah is not the one texting her, but that
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Speaker 1: Steve is married and has children. Once again, I do
18:50
Speaker 1: this to the point that front of our show, Caroline
18:53
Speaker 1: will be like, if you need to find out anything
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Speaker 1: about any of your exces or your boyfriend's, asked Samantha,
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Speaker 1: I will look. I was a defense investigator for a reason,
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Speaker 1: just saying I know it's not here. She goes to
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Speaker 1: visit Paul, the bartender from earlier, who actually had watched
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Speaker 1: the two dates, so he kind of knew already who
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Speaker 1: he was, and shares her location with him as she
19:17
Speaker 1: goes to investigate the second family. So again, all these
19:21
Speaker 1: things are what we do on dates. I did all
19:24
Speaker 1: those things again. We talked about in one of my days,
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Speaker 1: having my actual roommate follow me to the restaurant. Molly
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Speaker 1: tells the woman of the family and of her suspicions
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Speaker 1: who was the wife and and denies them very like
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Speaker 1: obviously shady trying to be She's a little bit nervous
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Speaker 1: trying to get her out, and as they're talking, Steve
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Speaker 1: Brendon arrives and dismisses her concerns too. Again, though Anne's
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Speaker 1: very oddly like nervous as a walking Molly to the
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Speaker 1: door of Molly, being smart, but not too smart because
19:58
Speaker 1: she should have done this while she was there, calls
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Speaker 1: Noah's phone and it goes off from inside Steve's pocket.
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Speaker 1: Realizing she was right, Molly doesn't have time to react
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Speaker 1: before Anne twist knocks her out from behind. Yes, so
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Speaker 1: the Steve slash Brendan thing is he? His name is
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Speaker 1: Brendan online right, Noah has been calling him Steve. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So soon after this, Steve invites Noah to dinner after
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Speaker 1: she had asked what human meat tastes like. He makes
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Speaker 1: her noodles with a human meatball uh, composed of a
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Speaker 1: woman named Hope. Noah eats it and Steve feels a
20:37
Speaker 1: connection to her. Um and yes, by the way there.
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Speaker 1: This is after a very lengthy scene where Steve exuberantly
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Speaker 1: dances as he cuts up some human meat you see,
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Speaker 1: like his little meat closet. Um. He packages it along
20:52
Speaker 1: with some of the women's belongings. He says that he
20:55
Speaker 1: only harvest women because that's where the market is and
20:59
Speaker 1: that they quote taste better, so he puts these items
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Speaker 1: in with the women's meat. Uh. Oh god, it sounds
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Speaker 1: so disturbing to say to send to his rich, all
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Speaker 1: male clientele because it makes him feel closer to the women.
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Speaker 1: So after this dinner has done, Steve removes Molly's breast
21:21
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to Noah, because yes, he captured Molly and now
21:24
Speaker 1: she's in this situation as well. Steve asked Noah to
21:29
Speaker 1: another dinner, gifting her with a pink dress and makeup
21:32
Speaker 1: to spruce herself up. Um. Noah does so, practicing smiling
21:37
Speaker 1: in the mirror. They have a candle lit dinner, and
21:40
Speaker 1: Steve reveals that some of who they're eating is Melissa,
21:44
Speaker 1: who had been in the same situation and she had
21:47
Speaker 1: heard earlier. Uh. They both proceed to get drunk and
21:50
Speaker 1: eat some breast meat to finish out the meal. When
21:54
Speaker 1: Steve shows Noah his hidden wall of items he's taken
21:56
Speaker 1: from the victims, Noah sees Molly's phone case. Steven Noah
22:01
Speaker 1: awkwardly dance once again, and Steve realizes he forgot to
22:04
Speaker 1: handcuff her. Noah convinces him that they should have sex
22:08
Speaker 1: and pretends she's going to give him a blowjob, but
22:11
Speaker 1: bites off his testicles instead. Um. She flees, managing to
22:15
Speaker 1: free Molly and Penny. They fend off and infuriated Steve
22:18
Speaker 1: with cooking utensils, bludgeoning and stabbing him. The women make
22:22
Speaker 1: it outside, but Steve follows them with a gun, shouting
22:25
Speaker 1: after them and calling them bitches and liars, which I
22:28
Speaker 1: find very funny. Um, they are able to get the
22:30
Speaker 1: gun from him and shoot him in the head. Yeah,
22:33
Speaker 1: I would like to say throughout this movie, because I
22:36
Speaker 1: am this person, I'm screaming saying, hit him again, y'all
22:39
Speaker 1: didn't kill him. Hit him again? What are you doing?
22:42
Speaker 1: Hit him again? Mm hmm. I believe in overkill in
22:46
Speaker 1: this situation. I am not a violent person. I'm just
22:50
Speaker 1: saying overkill the situation. And then it is the point
22:53
Speaker 1: that yes, she is definitely ah playing up, which is
22:59
Speaker 1: what we have been told by the way if we're
23:02
Speaker 1: ever captured or kidnapped, to not fight because it's worse
23:05
Speaker 1: to fight. I think that's changed as of late, because
23:08
Speaker 1: some self supposed to people like, just do what you can,
23:10
Speaker 1: because if you do this, it's gonna get you killed.
23:12
Speaker 1: But a lot of people have told you know, if
23:14
Speaker 1: you maybe whatever makes yourself human to them, so many
23:18
Speaker 1: bad things. But all that day she does vomit after
23:21
Speaker 1: the first time she eats human mate, which maybe feel
23:25
Speaker 1: a little better because I was like, what is happening? Well, see,
23:28
Speaker 1: that's what I thought the trick was going to be,
23:30
Speaker 1: that she enjoys taste, and she enjoyed it. Yeah, and
23:34
Speaker 1: we needed that vomit. See we simultaneously Paul. Remember Paul
23:39
Speaker 1: the bartender has actually followed Molly's GPS pen after not
23:43
Speaker 1: hearing from her, and arrives at the location, but at
23:48
Speaker 1: the sound of a gunshot, wisely turns around. This is
23:51
Speaker 1: one of those one was like, like, I wish you
23:53
Speaker 1: would have stayed, but that was smart. Get the hell out,
23:55
Speaker 1: Get the hell out, don't do this to yourself. Um.
23:59
Speaker 1: And honestly I didn't expect for him to find them,
24:02
Speaker 1: or at least get caught up in that, because he
24:04
Speaker 1: does walk up to the space trying to find out
24:06
Speaker 1: what's going on. But yeah, here's here's the screaming gunshot runs.
24:10
Speaker 1: And also Steve's wife Anne arrives and sees blood and
24:14
Speaker 1: signs of struggle in that kitchen, realizing that Steve I
24:16
Speaker 1: was planning on cheating on her with Noah because she
24:19
Speaker 1: has all the signs. And this is where Annie and
24:21
Speaker 1: I debated about what's going on with Anne what about
24:24
Speaker 1: the end. She also has Securier who has been throughout.
24:28
Speaker 1: He's the one that's delivering the packages, so he's a
24:30
Speaker 1: bodyguard some part of this too, but he's pretty much uh,
24:36
Speaker 1: doing what she asked, kind of like a butler. As
24:39
Speaker 1: a part of this as well, Earlier we found out
24:42
Speaker 1: half of an half of Ant's leg was missing again.
24:46
Speaker 1: Annie and I had the conversation about why so, meaning
24:50
Speaker 1: she probably was a victim of his at one point
24:54
Speaker 1: in time, UM and Noah goes back back to Noah.
24:58
Speaker 1: She goes back towards the house to recover her phone
25:01
Speaker 1: when she runs into Anne, who tricks her into thinking
25:04
Speaker 1: she's relieved that Steve is dead before attempting to strangle Noah.
25:08
Speaker 1: By the way, Noah does not know who Anne is
25:10
Speaker 1: at this point, She just like, where did you come from?
25:13
Speaker 1: Um and Molly shows up and batches Anne's head in
25:15
Speaker 1: with the shovel, shouting that bitch just like her are
25:18
Speaker 1: the problem so many things to that she is not wrong. Um.
25:24
Speaker 1: Noah and Molly lean against each other, telling each other
25:27
Speaker 1: how much they love each other, and Noah gets a
25:30
Speaker 1: text from Chad. The bad Day from the beginning reading
25:33
Speaker 1: you up the end and beats beat dubs. This is
25:39
Speaker 1: kind of the big trigger where Molly knows something wrong
25:42
Speaker 1: because when Molly tries to text Noah, they always end
25:46
Speaker 1: with the love you, and that didn't happen. Yeah, I
25:51
Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, yeah, there's so many things to talk
25:57
Speaker 1: about with that, and I we're going to get into
25:59
Speaker 1: it for sure, But like you said, someantha's so many
26:01
Speaker 1: of these things throughout. Even though this was a very
26:04
Speaker 1: like obviously elevated horrible situation, we can recognize these like
26:11
Speaker 1: similar themes and safety measures that we as women have
26:15
Speaker 1: put into place to protect ourselves when it comes to
26:19
Speaker 1: online dating. And that is one where oh is cyberstalking.
26:22
Speaker 1: We talked about that too, was like unfortunately somebody could
26:27
Speaker 1: like take your phone and be texting as you and
26:30
Speaker 1: and having those sort of because that Moll even has
26:32
Speaker 1: that scene where she's like, no one's gonna believe me
26:35
Speaker 1: if I say someone's texting me from her number, but
26:37
Speaker 1: I don't think it's hurt because there you know, that
26:40
Speaker 1: close and they do have that sort of ritual. Just yeah,
26:44
Speaker 1: so much of that. I was watching it, like, you're right,
26:49
Speaker 1: this is a this is like a show You're right,
26:52
Speaker 1: this is a horror movie like that. We're putting in
26:54
Speaker 1: the into place these things anticipating someone could do us
26:59
Speaker 1: harm in a situation that should be fun or at
27:02
Speaker 1: least like not terrifying. Okay, So yes, obviously one of
27:11
Speaker 1: the big themes in this is dating and online dating.
27:16
Speaker 1: And as I said, yeah, I immediately texted my friend
27:20
Speaker 1: who's dating online and was like, oh my god, you
27:24
Speaker 1: gotta tell me everything where you are, Like I need
27:27
Speaker 1: to know all the details, Like man, yeah, I mean
27:33
Speaker 1: and even that, like even I think unfortunately it's necessary,
27:36
Speaker 1: but even having your friend tell you that is like
27:40
Speaker 1: it's it's just like a cloud hanging over what should
27:42
Speaker 1: be a fun time, what should be a fun time,
27:48
Speaker 1: And I do think so. As I said, there are
27:50
Speaker 1: a lot of articles that were written about this and
27:52
Speaker 1: a lot of think pieces, um, and a lot of
27:54
Speaker 1: it was about how modern dating is all about commodification
27:59
Speaker 1: and can omption of women's bodies. Um. So if you
28:03
Speaker 1: go back to our bad dating episodes, I know a
28:06
Speaker 1: lot of us can relate to her date with chad Um.
28:09
Speaker 1: And yes, that was certainly a purposeful name choice, I
28:12
Speaker 1: have to believe due to the in cell connection. Hell yeah,
28:16
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and that whole like a lecture on femininity
28:19
Speaker 1: to her, the monologue about hot sauce that he does right, um,
28:31
Speaker 1: that hateful reaction to rejection um. And though he lamented
28:35
Speaker 1: the loss of women of their parents generation, he does
28:39
Speaker 1: not hold the door for her, like it kind of
28:40
Speaker 1: slams in her face. Even though I guess that's a
28:44
Speaker 1: chivalry that he would want. He insists he splits the check,
28:48
Speaker 1: which is great, but he's just not being consistent. He's like,
28:50
Speaker 1: I want the pieces that benefit me only, meaning you
28:55
Speaker 1: look this way, but you pay now, and I'm not
28:58
Speaker 1: gonna hold the door for you. And then yeah, like
29:02
Speaker 1: the nervous walk into the car and the dark, the
29:05
Speaker 1: dick pick. And then when you get to Steve, he
29:08
Speaker 1: first seems very charming, which, by the way, Sebastian stand
29:11
Speaker 1: talked to an expert on Ted Bundy for this role.
29:14
Speaker 1: In my head again, when I saw his first role
29:17
Speaker 1: of being the creepy dude, he did fine. I don't
29:20
Speaker 1: think he really needed to talk to anymore. I think
29:22
Speaker 1: he's just one of those actors. And I'm saying this
29:24
Speaker 1: with no judgment either way, but I think he's just
29:25
Speaker 1: one of those actors. That's like, I'm going to do
29:28
Speaker 1: the research. I'm gonna right, let's just find you do
29:30
Speaker 1: the research, don't do method acting. Can't we go away
29:33
Speaker 1: from the method acting? From all of these discussing things.
29:35
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like, you've you've seemed
29:39
Speaker 1: creepy like he you also seem fun but you also
29:44
Speaker 1: can be creepy. You do fun with that? Yeah, yeah,
29:48
Speaker 1: well and it's funny. But he kind of sort of
29:53
Speaker 1: reminded me of our boss. And I texted you about that.
29:56
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm very right now, I'm very emseted
30:00
Speaker 1: you said that on Mike. I don't care. So Basha
30:05
Speaker 1: stan is a fine looking fellow. He looks like Mark Campbell.
30:10
Speaker 1: You know. I love that you keep screaming he can't
30:13
Speaker 1: be luke. After watching this movie, I did. I do
30:17
Speaker 1: feel that way. I can. My mind changes, you know,
30:22
Speaker 1: it's like a ripples on water. Who knows what I'll
30:26
Speaker 1: think tomorrow. Even then, there were also themes. Again, I
30:30
Speaker 1: watched this with my friend he was doing a lot
30:32
Speaker 1: of like online dating. Uh. Afterwards, we had a really
30:36
Speaker 1: good talk about this, and she was telling me how
30:39
Speaker 1: much this resonated with her. Of like the fear of
30:43
Speaker 1: the drug drinks. They're just knowing she could easily be
30:46
Speaker 1: physically overpowered, or yeah, we've talked to I hate this
30:51
Speaker 1: is one of my pet peeves. Like being told to
30:53
Speaker 1: smile um, which he does to her after he's told
30:57
Speaker 1: her he's gonna like slowly sell off her me. He's like,
31:00
Speaker 1: just smile more fine, Yeah, being told to dress up
31:06
Speaker 1: and put on makeup to look a certain way to
31:09
Speaker 1: not cause problems and be a good girl. He even
31:12
Speaker 1: tells her to stop being dramatic about the fact he's
31:15
Speaker 1: imprisoning her and planning on slowly killing her. Yes, which
31:18
Speaker 1: I felt like was sort of the serial killer equivalent
31:22
Speaker 1: of you're being emotional, like you're being hysterical right now down.
31:28
Speaker 1: Yeah jeez. But that was one thing I saw that
31:32
Speaker 1: I didn't really pick up on the first time I
31:34
Speaker 1: watched it, but when I was which by the way,
31:36
Speaker 1: I watched it like ten times. She really loves this movie,
31:38
Speaker 1: which because I do I know, I just I love
31:41
Speaker 1: like picking up on symbolism and things I I don't
31:44
Speaker 1: know I didn't pick up on. Some people made like
31:50
Speaker 1: the connection between oh, you know, you don't meet people
31:57
Speaker 1: in real life anymore, and she does sort of the
32:00
Speaker 1: comparison between that an online dating and UH with the
32:07
Speaker 1: conversation of chat of being like, oh, it was so
32:09
Speaker 1: much better when our parents generation and they met in
32:12
Speaker 1: my life, and that's just the better way to do it,
32:16
Speaker 1: and sort of having a critique of like, you know,
32:18
Speaker 1: maybe but can still go wrong, you can still be bad.
32:26
Speaker 1: It went terribly wrong, Okay. So yes. Another theme throughout
32:31
Speaker 1: is definitely consumption because as we mentioned earlier, Oh my God,
32:37
Speaker 1: throughout the movie you see imagery of eating, of mindless snacking, um,
32:42
Speaker 1: something that is reminiscent of the mindless scrolling that can
32:44
Speaker 1: happen on dating apps UM. And my friend also said
32:48
Speaker 1: that she was like, oh yeah, that kind of reminds
32:50
Speaker 1: me of just like this constant and need. It's a
32:53
Speaker 1: scroll And we've talked about that before, and we've talked
32:56
Speaker 1: about I think we did gamification of eating um, and
33:02
Speaker 1: that's what she calls it. She says, it's sort of
33:03
Speaker 1: for her kind of like a game, just sort of
33:06
Speaker 1: almost like you're playing candy crush or something. Well, it's
33:08
Speaker 1: kind of at the beginning of what that dating sites
33:11
Speaker 1: were was hot or not, and that was tender and
33:15
Speaker 1: it's just essentially saying judging people, and it was a
33:18
Speaker 1: fun little game, which translated to less judge, swipe right,
33:21
Speaker 1: swipe left, maybe we'll meet up. So it became what yeah,
33:25
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, that's how it started. Yeah, And and
33:28
Speaker 1: that's a good callback to too hot or not because
33:31
Speaker 1: a part of this is we're kind of looking at
33:35
Speaker 1: people as sort of like fresh meat, like we're reducing
33:37
Speaker 1: them too hot or not um, which is very dehumanizing
33:44
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's and it's sort of like
33:46
Speaker 1: scrolling for food delivery options like do I want this?
33:49
Speaker 1: Do I want this? No? No, no, no no um.
33:51
Speaker 1: When no At first meets Steve, it's in a grocery
33:53
Speaker 1: store with a sign or eating fresh meats hanging over
33:59
Speaker 1: her head, and it's over food that they first bond.
34:02
Speaker 1: And yes, if you didn't know, the tagline of this
34:05
Speaker 1: movie is meat cute with meat in e eight, So
34:11
Speaker 1: just like that theme of blasphemous, I still can't believe
34:17
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to meet cute was? I know?
34:20
Speaker 1: Could you imagine what would have happened with this movie?
34:22
Speaker 1: You would have been like what and not understanding You're welcome.
34:26
Speaker 1: He really helped me out Samantha. Yeah, so here's a
34:43
Speaker 1: quote from Joshua Rivereia at Polygon. You know that algorithm
34:47
Speaker 1: is likely to let you down, so you just hope
34:50
Speaker 1: it won't lead you to a certain death. It's a boring,
34:53
Speaker 1: horrible way to think about people at odds with the
34:56
Speaker 1: fundamental desire at the heart of dating to be seen
34:59
Speaker 1: as a plead person by someone interested in you and
35:03
Speaker 1: you in them. What's more likely is a justification. Dating
35:08
Speaker 1: apps encourage users to reduce each other down to parts
35:12
Speaker 1: to meet. Yeah, yeah, here's the thing, Yes, there is
35:19
Speaker 1: two of course, Like there's the do they appeal to
35:21
Speaker 1: me first? Foremost? But for most maybe I'm I'm being
35:25
Speaker 1: too generalizing. But for me when I was on dating sites,
35:29
Speaker 1: sure you're pleasing to me. Let me go and look
35:32
Speaker 1: at what's see what you have? Oh you have these things?
35:35
Speaker 1: Hell now like for like, there's so many other things
35:38
Speaker 1: that some people do. Just did delox for sure, I
35:40
Speaker 1: feel like for a lot of women. Maybe again it's
35:43
Speaker 1: under my impression. I cannot base it on that. There's
35:46
Speaker 1: too many red flags. I think you're right, and that
35:49
Speaker 1: comes from somebody who I like, I've observed and I've
35:52
Speaker 1: talked to my friends about it, and I would love
35:54
Speaker 1: for listeners to write in your experiences, but I think
35:58
Speaker 1: that in very broad general terms, women do, unfortunately have
36:05
Speaker 1: to be much more like I'm looking for these red flags,
36:09
Speaker 1: whereas men kind of have the safety the security to
36:15
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, I like this, she looks good. Okay, yes,
36:18
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like, certainly, I'm not saying there's
36:22
Speaker 1: no aspect for men of like I don't want her
36:24
Speaker 1: to be absolutely horrendous. I just think there is a
36:28
Speaker 1: difference of like safety and finding those red flags and
36:33
Speaker 1: why that's significant and who's willing to ignore what? Again,
36:37
Speaker 1: generalizations when it comes to this, because I do feel
36:40
Speaker 1: like I definitely have a lot of guy friends who
36:42
Speaker 1: are like, this is what she likes. Hell no, I
36:44
Speaker 1: will say that too, but it's still different standards of
36:47
Speaker 1: like he doesn't agree with you, I don't agree with
36:49
Speaker 1: you as well. For women it's like this might get
36:52
Speaker 1: me killed. This is a huge reft flag where he's
36:54
Speaker 1: going to be toxic because he's gonna be abusive to me.
36:56
Speaker 1: Da da da mm hmm, just saying the Yeah, it's
37:02
Speaker 1: it's very interesting and upsetting to hear my friends. I know,
37:06
Speaker 1: we talked about this before, but to hear their red
37:08
Speaker 1: flags and I mean, it all makes sense, but it's like, wow, yeah,
37:14
Speaker 1: you can't just right. You have to kind of read
37:19
Speaker 1: into these things and through unfortunately a lot of terrible
37:23
Speaker 1: experiences have learned like, oh, I associate this with like
37:28
Speaker 1: not a safe person, not a safe guy, which is
37:31
Speaker 1: just different, um, a different experience. And yeah, I like
37:36
Speaker 1: this quote because it talks about like, ultimately it should
37:39
Speaker 1: be you know, not reducing people. Dating shouldn't be reducing
37:45
Speaker 1: people down to this, but that's what it's become. And
37:49
Speaker 1: now there's like the threat of violence and death involved
37:53
Speaker 1: for people hasn't like it's not just that it's now
37:56
Speaker 1: become that it's been like that for years, but there's
38:00
Speaker 1: less mode of apps and ways of getting this information. Uh.
38:06
Speaker 1: Of course, way back when when it was decided by
38:09
Speaker 1: the parents, that was a whole different conversation. So you know, yeah, no,
38:14
Speaker 1: but going on with these quotes now that I've made
38:16
Speaker 1: this example from Bsumanly at The Guardian, he says, for
38:20
Speaker 1: many of us, and especially for women, dating apps and
38:23
Speaker 1: dating culture can be violently revealing, exposing people's worst impulses
38:28
Speaker 1: and most selfish desires, and the film takes particular issue
38:31
Speaker 1: with how women's bodies are judged, shared and abused and
38:36
Speaker 1: oh my god, right on. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's
38:40
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like when he's making those boxes with
38:43
Speaker 1: their meat in there and then like their personal belongings.
38:47
Speaker 1: Oh that is, so that's exactly that, Like, yeah, just
38:51
Speaker 1: judged here, it is for your consumption, doesn't matter what
38:55
Speaker 1: happened to her, and like you're never really going to
38:59
Speaker 1: think of about that person again. I think it's also
39:02
Speaker 1: really symbolic that Steve takes Noah's acid Polly's breast first,
39:07
Speaker 1: and it makes sense in terms of like we're gonna
39:12
Speaker 1: go first, but also I think it's embolic because it's
39:14
Speaker 1: the physical, sexualized parts of the feminine body, yeah, that
39:19
Speaker 1: we reduce women down to in our culture all too often.
39:23
Speaker 1: On top of that is the whole women taste better
39:25
Speaker 1: thing that he says, and that women are who Steve
39:30
Speaker 1: hunts for his all male clientele, most of whom are
39:33
Speaker 1: older white men sending the cuts of meat, yeah, with
39:36
Speaker 1: things like bras and underwear like it's personal items Ke's
39:40
Speaker 1: sending um. And there is a long history of showing
39:44
Speaker 1: domination by eating or consuming someone in some way, not
39:47
Speaker 1: necessarily they're like actual meat, um, whether it's making a
39:50
Speaker 1: cookie with their likeness on it or a food item
39:53
Speaker 1: baked in the shape of one of the body parts.
39:57
Speaker 1: This whole thing is odd to talk about. I think
39:59
Speaker 1: we can all admit this is a strange conversation we're having.
40:03
Speaker 1: When Steve explains it to know, he says, they become
40:06
Speaker 1: a part of you, So it feels like a really
40:11
Speaker 1: just like misogynistic domination. I have complete power over you
40:20
Speaker 1: now you're part of me at my whims. Another thing
40:26
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that really resonated with me
40:29
Speaker 1: watching this is this idea of playing the game when
40:32
Speaker 1: it comes to dating, when it comes to keeping yourself
40:33
Speaker 1: safe as a woman on these dates, because I think
40:37
Speaker 1: one of the most disturbing things for me in this
40:42
Speaker 1: movie is that you see a really elevated version of
40:44
Speaker 1: a woman having to play into the patriarchal game of survival,
40:49
Speaker 1: of having to hurt eat other women to survive. With
40:55
Speaker 1: Noah's character, at one point, you aren't sure, as we said,
40:58
Speaker 1: whose side she's like. And she gets taste of it, uh,
41:01
Speaker 1: and it's like all in on it now and then
41:04
Speaker 1: on the other side you have Anne, who clearly doesn't
41:06
Speaker 1: have an issue throwing other women under the bus. And
41:09
Speaker 1: my mind theory with Anne is that she kind of
41:12
Speaker 1: I was able to play the game, got out and
41:14
Speaker 1: then did not care about the other women that were
41:17
Speaker 1: getting hurt. On top of that, there's the idea of
41:20
Speaker 1: this balancing act so many women's face when it comes
41:22
Speaker 1: to dating, always always managing the man's ego and his wants.
41:27
Speaker 1: You know, you smile, you wear the dress, you do
41:29
Speaker 1: your makeup just so just like he likes it, make
41:32
Speaker 1: him laugh, you get him to talk about himself, you
41:35
Speaker 1: make him feel special, just so he doesn't hurt you,
41:37
Speaker 1: so he isn't angry. So she kind of does that
41:39
Speaker 1: with the like tell me about how you got into
41:43
Speaker 1: eating people like just I feel like a lot of
41:49
Speaker 1: us can relate to that too, right, I think we're
41:52
Speaker 1: going back to the ADS character. I did find it
41:54
Speaker 1: because after the attack on Molly, he said we were
41:58
Speaker 1: a good team. You did a good job job, and
42:00
Speaker 1: you could tell even though she hated it, she also
42:03
Speaker 1: needed it, and it was It's definitely like a Stockholm
42:05
Speaker 1: syndrome moment that it makes you say uh yeah, yeah,
42:11
Speaker 1: for sure. And then there's that scene where Noah is
42:14
Speaker 1: putting on makeup and practicing the smile, her smile, getting
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Speaker 1: ready for this performance that is so present for women
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Speaker 1: on a lot of dates. Um, and her hands are handcuffs.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you explain this, we kind of
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Speaker 1: mentioned it, but her hands are handcuffed during this whole
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Speaker 1: thing when he does the dates and stuff like, and
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Speaker 1: that just feels very symbolic to me. Also, um, and
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Speaker 1: she weaponizes this game, and she weaponizes her femininity to
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Speaker 1: beat Steve at his own game, turning the tables, even
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Speaker 1: telling him to give her a smile before she shoots him.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like I felt that too, of
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Speaker 1: like that performance on a date of like I gotta
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Speaker 1: act this way or else. Um. Also, the awkward dancing
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Speaker 1: at the end, not the first one, the one at
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Speaker 1: the end. I think it's supposed to be a metaphor
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Speaker 1: for the awkward preamble of dating. Some of also said
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Speaker 1: it's like they're kind of looking at the camera and
43:10
Speaker 1: in reference to the fact that as a society, we're
43:12
Speaker 1: watching this all play out too, and we're kind of like, oh,
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Speaker 1: gift this or oh I'll do this. But I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna do anything to stop it, you know, I'll just
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Speaker 1: kind of look at it, move on. It's a very
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Speaker 1: unsettling like they're looking at the camera and you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: and then yeah, I did. You just have to mention
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Speaker 1: Steve yelling at Noah for being a liar. Really, the hypocrisy, well,
43:37
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of men in general when
43:40
Speaker 1: they call them lies for being teases. M hmmm. And
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Speaker 1: then you like, literally when you're trying to slurt to
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Speaker 1: get away with people. And I've done this so many
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Speaker 1: times where I'm like smiling and giggling, but I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to count the situation and make you feel secure in yourself,
43:55
Speaker 1: but at the same time trying to walk away. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've done this. Yeah, definitely. Because this was in in
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Speaker 1: response to her he thought she was interested, right, she
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Speaker 1: had been pretending to be interested to get out of
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Speaker 1: this unsafe situation. He called her a liar, and I'm like, dude,
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Speaker 1: you literally cannibal, right you are, and you pretended like
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Speaker 1: you were in love with her and taking her on
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Speaker 1: a fancy trip. You didn't even tell her your real name. Yes,
44:24
Speaker 1: how dare you? Bro? Indeed, but to end on an
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Speaker 1: uplifting though I didn't really really love the kind of
44:36
Speaker 1: women as support groups UM, because at the heart of
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Speaker 1: the story, the hero of the story is once again
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Speaker 1: friendships and support between women, whether it's Molly trying to
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Speaker 1: get information to vet Steve like looking him up online um,
44:50
Speaker 1: then checking in on each other, Molly investigating the second family,
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Speaker 1: Penny and Noah bonding in their darkest moments into sharing
44:57
Speaker 1: each other. It's not their fault that this is happening,
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Speaker 1: that they had to keep fighting, or on all of
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Speaker 1: them coming together to fight Steve and in part Anne,
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Speaker 1: who is an example of women who portrays other women
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Speaker 1: and benefits off their pain, which is what Molly was
45:12
Speaker 1: talking about women like you. Yes, white feminists like you.
45:16
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the statement, but in general
45:19
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like that, Yeah, no, I think
45:23
Speaker 1: that's I think that was intended, But no, I just
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Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it. Was one of those things
45:29
Speaker 1: again we're unfortunately throughout I could relate. I could relate
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Speaker 1: to this, like checking in who is this guy? Like
45:37
Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy for you, but these are some
45:38
Speaker 1: red flags, like always checking in on each other and
45:41
Speaker 1: providing this support um and then at the end, I
45:44
Speaker 1: like that it ends with them like I love you,
45:47
Speaker 1: I love you more. Oh I did appreciate that they survived. Yeah,
45:53
Speaker 1: they did, they did. They We're missing some parts all
45:57
Speaker 1: of them, but plus was not happy. As I said,
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Speaker 1: I will never watch this again. Well, thank you for
46:12
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