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O'Brien & Doug Ep172 [November 9, 2023 Now & Then We Do A Great Podcast..and This Is Not It] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_11: It's ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_11: It's preposterous.
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  SPEAKER_11: It's ludicrous.
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  SPEAKER_11: My God, it's impetuous.
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  SPEAKER_07: The O'Brien and Duck Podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com.
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  SPEAKER_07: They make music in first guy on Maine, the Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and my cousin, Larry.
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  unknown: Who?
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  SPEAKER_07: Larry.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh, Larry.
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  SPEAKER_09: One of these days.
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  SPEAKER_09: One of these days.
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  SPEAKER_08: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_08: I am O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm Pope Douglas V.
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  SPEAKER_08: Bless you.
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  SPEAKER_08: Peace be with you.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean you I mean you bless me.
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  SPEAKER_08: Peace be with you.
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  SPEAKER_08: Peace be with me.
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  SPEAKER_05: Dominus Homes.
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  SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna be the first non-Catholic to be Pope.
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  SPEAKER_07: Hey, you know, that's probably not far off.
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  SPEAKER_07: Well the way the world's going.
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  SPEAKER_05: I can't do any worse.
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  SPEAKER_05: This is true.
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  SPEAKER_08: This is true.
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  SPEAKER_08: I say that as a practicing Catholic.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: You understand what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes, I do.
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  SPEAKER_05: I also think that we should bring back uh burning at the stake as a punishment.
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  SPEAKER_07: It's been one of those weeks.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, no, I just I was thinking about it because, you know, we I mean, I think it would be great.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, of course, I mean I'm talking about the usual suspects, you know, murderers, rapists, pedophiles, of course, basically Hamas.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, but I also want to put in the person who thought it was a good idea to put LED headlights into cars.
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  SPEAKER_08: They're blinding, aren't they?
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  SPEAKER_05: I had one follow me all the way up here.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, dude.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so now I want to put that guy on a steak, and as he's burning, I want to roast hot dogs and marshmallows.
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  SPEAKER_05: And feed him and feed him to his family.
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  SPEAKER_08: Hot dogs will kill you.
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  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm dying anyway.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're all dying.
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  SPEAKER_08: So so uh I meant to ask you, actually, you need Bill Clinton?
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_08: So I did not have sex with that woman.
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  SPEAKER_04: I did not have relations with that woman.
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  SPEAKER_04: Monica Lewinsky.
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  SPEAKER_08: No, I wanted to ask you.
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  SPEAKER_04: We have to talk about what the definition of the word is is.
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  SPEAKER_08: You saw my new vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um are my lights LED?
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: They are.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: So I might be one of those people.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, no.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about the guy who thought it was a good idea.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I I can't do anything about the people that have already bought the vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because that would just be I mean, Australia look would look you know pale in comparison to that fire.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um but I'm just saying that guy.
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  SPEAKER_05: I want or the whole committee.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, you know, hey, you know what we should do with these LED headlights?
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  SPEAKER_05: We should put them in vehicles and blind everybody.
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  SPEAKER_08: Or the people I want a world of Stevie Wonders.
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  SPEAKER_08: Or the people that that put them on the roll bars of their trucks.
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  SPEAKER_08: You ever seen those?
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, I hate those guys too.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then and then they come up behind you.
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  SPEAKER_05: I want to put I want to put a roll on the back of my vehicle so that when somebody comes up behind me with their LEDs, I can click it on and blind them, and hopefully they crash.
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  SPEAKER_08: Just just a just as and and and actually, you'd have you'd have enough lights on the back of your vehicle with letters on them that say back up.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, no, that's not well, there's gonna be a K in there.
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  SPEAKER_05: And an F and another F and an O.
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  SPEAKER_08: Back the Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_05: There's gonna be there's gonna be a lot of words.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: They're not gonna be able to see them though, because they're gonna be blinded.
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  unknown: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Their retinas are gonna burn out of their sockets.
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  SPEAKER_08: So here we are, episode 172, and we're recording on a Tuesday, November 7th, election day.
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  SPEAKER_08: Did you did you vote today?
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  SPEAKER_05: I did.
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  SPEAKER_05: I love I love how they word the uh I love how they you know try to trick everybody into voting their way by making it the most ambiguous wording ever.
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  SPEAKER_05: Do you have not enter well do you have no maybe you know, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Voting yes on this means voting yes on this, do you want to vote to amend the Constitution?
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  SPEAKER_05: Do you want to vote to enact this legislation's already been apparently voted?
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, well, what the point is this?
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  SPEAKER_08: If it's already been voted on.
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  SPEAKER_05: I hate politics so much.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know, me too.
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  SPEAKER_05: Politicians also gonna be burned at the stake.
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  SPEAKER_08: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_08: So there you go.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm talking to all of you.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's also uh special day because today is well, two things two for two reasons.
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  SPEAKER_08: Eli, my number three.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep, it's his sweet 16.
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  SPEAKER_08: 16 years old.
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  SPEAKER_08: 16's crazy years old.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'd like to say he's never been kissed.
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_08: He doesn't talk to me about stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't want to know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Honestly, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's that's that's right.
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  SPEAKER_08: I I I don't either.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh he um I just I when I was talking to him upstairs.
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  SPEAKER_05: I got a box of Finn uh what do you say, a box of cheez-its?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was like, oh called he's like Finn ate them all.
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  SPEAKER_05: Happy freaking birthday freaking birthday to you, dude.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, no, his uh so his cousin Ava was born one day before, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, one day before he was.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: So they had a party on Saturday for both of them.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what that's what that's what your wife was saying.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_08: So uh it was good though.
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  SPEAKER_08: And and he uh he got a lot of love on on social media, even though he doesn't have social media, yeah, which really is kind of ticking him off.
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  SPEAKER_08: He's been asking, can I have uh Facebook?
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  SPEAKER_08: Why do you need Facebook?
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh so I can communicate.
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  SPEAKER_08: You have text.
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  SPEAKER_08: You have a phone.
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  SPEAKER_05: I was about to say, doesn't he have a phone?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Can I have Instagram?
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  SPEAKER_08: No.
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  SPEAKER_08: Why?
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  SPEAKER_08: Everybody has Instagram.
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  SPEAKER_08: I know, that's the problem.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know, yeah, I don't want you're on your phone.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, none of your other kids had Facebook or Instagram until they were 18.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_08: So I'm still uh I'm I'm standing firm.
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  SPEAKER_08: He's not getting he may get uh Facebook only because Well, I and I have to talk to his mother about this.
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  SPEAKER_08: And she she's usually the one that that is uh no, absolutely not.
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  SPEAKER_08: But uh we have a uh family thread on Messenger.
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh so you in order to have Messenger you have to have Facebook page.
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  SPEAKER_08: But you know, my Jude did Jude has Facebook and he doesn't ever post.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, the only reason I knew it was Jude's birthday or uh Eli's birthday is because your your daughter posted it.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I was like, oh yeah, I remember I knew he had a birthday count up, I just couldn't remember exactly when.
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  SPEAKER_08: So um yeah, but that's that's a fight that we're gonna continue to have, I'm sure.
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  SPEAKER_08: So it's also an anniversary today.
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  SPEAKER_05: Mom and dad's anniversary.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we were gonna call them, but happy anniversary to them because uh what year what what your anniversary something is gonna take four?
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  SPEAKER_08: That's cool.
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  SPEAKER_08: Wow, that's pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's uh that's impressive.
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  SPEAKER_08: I think I want to say that my in-laws are the same, fifty-four or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, something close.
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  SPEAKER_08: Something close to that.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's impressive.
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  SPEAKER_05: It is impressive.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And especially in this day and age.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I agree.
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  SPEAKER_08: So happy anniversary, mom and dad.
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  SPEAKER_05: Mom and dad.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh it's mom's birthday on Friday.
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  SPEAKER_08: This coming Friday?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: And it's dad's birthday next Saturday.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I don't know if they planned that.
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  SPEAKER_08: Like to get married in between their birthdays?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Both of their birthdays are in November, and they got married in November.
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  SPEAKER_05: I think they planned that so they would always like oh, November.
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  SPEAKER_05: Everything's happening.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: And we don't have to worry about the surprise, I surprised me and my sister weren't born in November.
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  SPEAKER_05: That way they would just have everything in November.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, November will just be celebration month in the clan.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yay! Everything's happening.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um can I can I have a birthday some other time?
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  SPEAKER_08: No, it's in November.
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  SPEAKER_08: Are they um how many years apart are they in age?
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  SPEAKER_05: Six.
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  SPEAKER_08: Six years?
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  SPEAKER_08: Same with my mom and dad.
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  SPEAKER_08: Six years apart.
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  SPEAKER_08: Six years.
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  SPEAKER_08: Is mom older or or or no dad's older?
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  SPEAKER_08: Your dad's older.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because dad's gonna be eighty this year.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's big.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know, right?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Do you believe my dad's eighty?
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  SPEAKER_05: No, I wouldn't.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know, right?
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  SPEAKER_08: It's crazy.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it is crazy.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, I mean, he takes care of himself.
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  SPEAKER_08: Does he still ski?
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Does he?
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: 80 year olds still skiing, man.
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  SPEAKER_08: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's so awesome.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh so happy birthday to them.
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  SPEAKER_08: Happy anniversary to them.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um, maybe we'll call one of them next time, next week.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we'll see if anybody's home.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: Because we can we can wish them a happy anniversary and birthdays in the same call.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_05: We'll just do it.
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  SPEAKER_05: We'll just be like, hey, we'll just take out just I write the uh ballot questions.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_08: Uh we were late to the party on the uh 250 guitarists, uh of all greatest guitarists of all time for Rolling Stone.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_08: We're a little late to the party on this, but not as late.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um the new final Beatles song.
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  SPEAKER_05: So weird is it that's the last one we're ever gonna get.
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  SPEAKER_08: Although, you know, I was reading a thing, Peter Jackson, who's the director of like the the Get Back Lord of the Ring fill uh trilogy, and also Get Back, the Beatles documentary.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um he he says uh future Beatles music is possible.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, it's gotta be.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, here's the thing, you know, they used AI with this now and then.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Which I don't like.
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  SPEAKER_08: No.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um I mean uh it's great to have a Beatles song, and I and I don't know what they used AI to do.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh I do know that and and it might be um um with John's voice, because here's what I know from what I've read.
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  SPEAKER_08: And you maybe you've read the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_08: This song, this new song, Now and Then, was among the songs that Yoko found on a tape that John had been working on.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And they worked on it the same time that they were doing like Fruit Free as a Bird and Real Love for the anthology series.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And for one reason or another, they didn't have the technology to make this one work.
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  SPEAKER_08: Although they did work on it.
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  SPEAKER_08: George Harrison recorded a guitar part for it, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh, and a couple of other things.
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  SPEAKER_08: So I don't know what they actually had to use AI for.
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't know either.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, here's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, from what I understand, is uh John's voice was on the tape with his guitar or something or his piano.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, I thought it was a piano, because you can hear the piano.
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  SPEAKER_08: Maybe it was a piano.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh but they couldn't separate his voice from the piano.
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't know though why why you need to.
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  SPEAKER_08: Why would you want to?
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh unless it wasn't clear.
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  SPEAKER_05: Maybe to clean it up, maybe.
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  SPEAKER_08: Maybe.
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  SPEAKER_08: But they but Peter Jackson developed the technology to do it, from what I understand.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, he got it from Mordor.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: And so I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_08: And so we have this new Beatles song.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I I like the way we put it in the in the Common Crossing thread.
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  SPEAKER_08: We were talking about it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Shane had asked about it.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I said, that's all right.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean, it's it's a good song.
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  SPEAKER_08: I like it.
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  SPEAKER_08: I like it.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean, I do like it.
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  SPEAKER_08: And and I said, it's better than all the stuff that's on the radio right now, that's for sure.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_08: Um listen to the whole thing as four minutes, but we'll just sample it here.
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  SPEAKER_13: It's all because of you.
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  SPEAKER_08: I bet it is the piano because that piano is pretty.
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't think John would be playing like that while he's singing.
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  SPEAKER_05: You think the piano is AI?
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  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_08: Um I don't think the piano is AI, but I think they couldn't separate John's voice from the piano because you know John Lennon.
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  SPEAKER_08: When he played piano, he was not Paul McCartney playing piano.
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  SPEAKER_08: He was, I mean, he was banging on it, and he was, you know, he plays block chords and everything.
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  SPEAKER_08: Paul McCartney was more, you know, melodic and you know.
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  SPEAKER_08: And that's very melodic playing.
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  SPEAKER_08: Not saying that's Paul McCartney, but I bet it is.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_08: Um so they probably had to remove John Lennon's voice from the the the tape uh because of the piano.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know, he was playing.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know, I'm not, I'm just guessing.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_08: Uh because this is more this is not John Lennon playing piano.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean the It's too clean to be piano.
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  SPEAKER_05: If we must stop again, will we stop this that it actually sounded like a Beatles talk?
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know one thing I don't understand though?
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna go back.
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  SPEAKER_08: Because in that chorus, is that Paul McCarty's because it sounds like someone is singing underwater.
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  SPEAKER_08: Is that just Paul McCartney's vibrato?
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it is.
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  SPEAKER_05: I wonder if that's original John Pokemon.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's got that analog quality to it.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_05: Like if you listen to uh real love before they did it, they think that's what it sounds like.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_05: Like cassette, like a cassette, yeah, like a cassette.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_05: Because this sounds really clean, like right now.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I agree.
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  SPEAKER_05: But during the chorus it sounds more muddy than more real.
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  SPEAKER_08: But I hear I don't think it's John's voice that's doing it.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_05: I think it is, to be honest with you, yeah.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_08: I hear it in the background.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that sounds more like original Johnny Point.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_05: But that's such a hairstyle I had.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, that's and that uh still great to just have no.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know, right?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_05: And then Ringo's drums.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_08: Well that's what I was gonna say.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_05: It's is it's Ringo has uh such a distinct sound to his drums.
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  SPEAKER_08: Listen, so here's the fill.
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  SPEAKER_08: This this fill right in the beginning of the of before the chorus or whatever was was a total.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, obviously it's Ringo, but yeah, but it's like a signature.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_08: I think it's right here.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that wasn't right here.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_05: That's uh I think that's what Ringo had Ringo had an interesting way of doing fills.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_05: Sometimes he went because for right-handed drummers, when you do a fill, you go left to right, right?
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_05: But sometimes Ringo did right to left.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_08: Which is interesting.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I I dig it.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_08: And uh there was an article that I haven't read yet, but there was and maybe you've read it.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_08: Um The reason George Harrison didn't want this song released.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't read it.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_08: You didn't read it.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_08: No, I didn't.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_08: I'll I'll try and find it.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if I can find it while we're while we're on here, but uh uh I was I'd be interested to hear why the late great uh George Harrison didn't want that song.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_05: And maybe it's because uh it was John Lennon then because maybe he wanted something for them and not for the world.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it for sure.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I'm just taking a glance real quick to see if that uh story pops up.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_08: I haven't watched the music video yet, though.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_08: Have you seen it?
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, is there a video?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_08: There's a music video.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_08: Peter Jackson uh put it together.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_08: Of course, Peter Jackson did.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_08: Of course he did.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_08: Um article called uh Apparently he's the new Brian Epstein.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_08: Right, how Lennon would react to New Beatles' song that's according to Oh, here it is.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so this is why George Harrison didn't want to release now and then.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_08: And this is ultimate classicrock.com.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_08: Of course it is.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_08: Of course it is.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_08: Uh let's see.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_05: Brought to you by Peter Jackson.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_08: Um I want to I just want I'm skimming over the article.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_08: George Harrison, for one, was well aware of the kinds of new technology available to musicians, tools that certainly weren't around in the Beatles' heyday, but he was also weary of the difficulty it could present.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_08: He said at the time, it opens up a whole other kettle of fish, but will it open another year of work?
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_08: Ringo Star added.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_08: Uh let's see, it was one day, one afternoon, really messing with it.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_08: Jeff Lynn would later explain the song had a chorus, but is almost totally lacking in verses.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_08: We did the backing track, A Rough Go that we really didn't finish.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_08: Harrison had more choice words for the track.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_08: Fing rubbish.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_08: Um that was about all the other band members needed to hear to drop the project.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_08: It would be close to thirty years later um that McCartney and Ringo Starr would revisit the song armed with better technology.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_08: So I guess he just didn't like it.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_08: Um The Fab Four Paul McCartney would explain in cue to that it functioned as a democracy.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_08: Input and the opinion was meant to be shared and discussed amongst the members, but following John's death in nineteen eighty, the future, anything Beatles related seemed hazy at best.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_08: Um yeah, I guess he didn't like it.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_08: Um and here's uh we were right on this.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_08: From these sessions, Free as a Bird and Real Love Are Born, but a third song now and then proved much more challenging, chiefly due to the quality of the audio.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_08: Lennon's vocal and piano playing were impossible to separate.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_08: Meaning mixing it into a new track would also be impractical.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_08: So yeah, so we were right.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_08: Uh so M McCartney must or uh Lennon must be playing piano and singing to it.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_08: And that was on one track, because it was just he was like a workplace.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I'm sure it was just, you know, a real to reel.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: Something.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_05: So he was famous for that.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, he was always you know, real to reels were like the lifeblood of John Lennon.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, he would you know, he would just turn one on and you know, play the guitar or the or the piano and just sing.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I mean, there's probably way more songs.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_08: And you know, and you know he and McCartney were of the same ilk where they would hit record and start playing an instrument and just make stuff up and it would be gold.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_08: You know, I mean it would yeah.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_08: So uh all right, so there's that.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_08: I have some more new music.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_05: New more music.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna give you a choice.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_08: Um this one I think is live.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_08: It's a debut from uh few days ago at the Hollywood Bowl.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_08: Guns N' Roses have released a new song.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, is it called The General?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_08: It is.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_07: Go to the General and save some time.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's not Wow, they're doing jingles now?
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_08: Good for them.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_08: Um, so we could listen to that one.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_08: We're I mean, we're going to.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_08: Um, or we could start with the new song from former Motley Crue guitarist Mick Mars.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_05: I want to hear the Guns N Roses one.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so let's do that first.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_08: So I have not previewed this at all, so if there's any profanity, I humbly apologize.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_11: We're gonna try and do it.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_08: We usually do that.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_08: We say, well, yeah, we've never done this done, which means it's probably gonna stop.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's just that's just musicians speak for.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_05: It's gonna suck.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_05: So we're apologizing in advance for it.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_08: All right, shut up.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_05: I hope this is going somewhere.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_05: It's you.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_08: I think it's a little hard to disseminate.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_05: Well that one lady likes it.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_05: I get a I get a war pigs vibe from it.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_08: It's funny you say I was thinking it's very Queensrike.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_05: Think so?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_05: Well that talk box is uh that must be uh not slash.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_08: It is slash.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_05: It is slash with the talk box?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_08: I you know, I bet it's a because it doesn't look he's not using his talk box.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_08: It sounds like a talk box.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_08: It does.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_08: It might be just a wahwa pedal.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it could be, yeah.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_08: Or yeah, no, he's not using a talk box.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_05: I don't I'm it's very underwhelming at this point.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_05: May I mean maybe there's a better like studio recording of it, but I don't know.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_05: As as of right this recording, I'm not yeah.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_08: I'm just kind of so so on the song itself.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_08: It's kinda, yeah.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, sorry to that lady that loves it, but um, I think she just loves it because she's there.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I think she's a little drunk.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so um She hangs out with that smooth lady.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe it's her.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_08: Um I have heard this song.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_08: And I think you're gonna like it actually.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_05: This is the Mick Mars one.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_08: Mick Mars.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_08: Uh so it's it's as you would expect.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, Mick doesn't sing.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_08: So he's got a couple different lead vocalists on his on his latest solo album, or only the solo album.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Jacob Bunton from Mars Electric Adler and Lynn of the Uh he is the lead singer on this one.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_08: It's called Loyal to the Lie.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean it's uh it's guitar heavy like you would expect a song to be, but and you know, but you know McMart is also a huge fan of like the Beatles.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_08: So it's very melodic.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_08: The chorus is really good.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_05: That's a pretty good line.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_05: All your little stories giving you the glory.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_05: That's a pretty good line.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_06: I I dig it.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_05: I like it.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_08: And from what I understand, he's got a lot more where that came from.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, he's got enough for a couple more albums.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_08: That's cool.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm excited for that.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_08: I'm glad he's finally getting.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I always thought that he and Nikki Six were the talent in Motley Coon anyway.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_08: Um, check this out.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_08: The name of the album The Other Side of Mars.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_08: And it's it's it's due out February 23rd.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_05: I might I might get this.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I I mean I like it.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_08: I like it, I like it Motley Coon.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_08: What's that?
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_08: I like it more than Motley Coon.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I do.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_08: I've never been a huge fan of True anyway.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, no, I I dig it.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_08: I think it's cool.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_08: I like it.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_08: Loyal to the Lie, that is the latest from uh Mick Mars of Motley Crew.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_08: Mick and while we're talking about albums and releases and things like that, I thought a cool thing to do because I was looking at um stuff that we could talk about on the podcast today, and I th I kind of thought of a new a new feature.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_08: We don't have to have it as a feature, but I thought it was kind of cool.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_08: Uh well I mean today was my son's birthday, right?
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_08: Right, and so there's an article on a couple of albums that were released on this day throughout history.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_08: And maybe you know, like not every podcast, but like next week.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_08: Did we find out what album was released on the weekend history?
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_08: I think we're gonna release on this day.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_08: Uh with some some kind of pivotal songs for Ozzy Osborne.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_08: Obviously, you have um this one.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_08: Right?
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_08: Over the mountain.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_08: So this is Jake E.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_08: Lee, I believe, on guitar, isn't it?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_08: Or is this or is this a Randy?
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_05: Is this Randy?
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_05: I think he's a Randy.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_05: Diary of a Mad Men?
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think it's all Randy.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_05: You're right.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_08: It's all Randy, yeah.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know what I was thinking.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_05: Madden Blizzard of Oz.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_08: That's I don't know what I was thinking.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_08: But there is some there was some uh whole the the whole drama that went on with the the um um because on the liner notes of the album it said that Tommy Aldridge played drums, Rudy Sarzo played bass.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_08: Um when in actuality the songs were written by and were played by Bob Daisley on bass and another guy, can't remember his name, on drums.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_08: So there was a lawsuit and everything.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, of course there was.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_08: And even Rudy Sarzo and Tommy Aldridge said they I mean they basically confirmed in the press that they learned the songs from recordings that those guys did.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_08: So they were the original uh rhythm section for this entire album, but were never given the credits or the um or the the royalties from it.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_05: Oh of course not.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_05: And of course it's this one we go So are you a you know if Ozzy had stopped after these albums, he'd still be as famous today as he is.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_05: Seriously.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_05: You think so?
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_05: I think so.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_05: I think he just went downhill from here.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_08: I I I don't think so.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think Well, he became a caricature, that's the problem.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_05: I think he became a car.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_05: He stayed around too long.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_08: I think he became a caricature.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_08: You're right, he did become a caricature, but I think it was after um because you know those albums that he did with Zach Wilde, those are great albums.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_08: You know, um was the uh Wicked uh No Rest for the Wicked, right?
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_08: I know I can't think of a name.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_08: Um and even even the later stuff that he did was really, really good.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_05: Dream Dreamer and Well that Black Sabbath album that came out with that too, 13.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_05: That's a pretty good that's a pretty good album.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean, you know.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_08: But I think what even even then it's it's that show that he did.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, if he had never done the show, yeah.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_08: I agree.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_05: I think he would be I you know I hate to see because he had a really pretty BA image.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_05: And then he did that show, and then everybody's like, well, I he's more of a joke now.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: He's just, you know, burnt out old man.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_08: Well, what's the um you know what's the the famous line you remember from the show?
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_04: I'm the I'm the Evan Prince of Darkness! Bubbles.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_04: You can't do bubbles.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_04: I'm the Prince of Evan and Darkness, right?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so I I agree.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, if he had never done that show, I think it would be different.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_05: His his legacy would be different, you know.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, he's still got a great legacy.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, he'll always be Aussie.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_05: You know, Black Sabbath and all that.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_05: But that show, I just maybe that's why Henry Rowland said, you know, when Sharon showed up, he spelled fire and brimstone.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't know.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_05: I I just I just like I said, Blizzard of Oz and and uh Dire of Madman.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_05: Like I said, if he had never done an album after those two, he'd still be famous.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_05: I think you're right.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_05: You know?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, because look, Randy is Randy is still famous.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_05: Of course.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_05: And he only did those two albums.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_08: Right, well he was it.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_08: Right, but he was can you and I did watch that documentary.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_08: Did you watch it?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so yeah, wasn't it?
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_08: Can you imagine what he where he would have taken it if he was still around?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_08: Because he was he was he was on bar with Eddie Van Halen.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_08: I would I'm not gonna say because it was a different thing.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_08: It was a different thing, but but um He was more classical.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I was just gonna say Randy Rhodes was developing his own kind of rock and roll slash classical thing.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_08: Uh which was great.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_05: Well you've listened to the to the uh the solos in uh um Mr.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_05: Crowley.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_05: I mean those are those are classical.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_05: I mean I would put them up on, you know, any Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, you know, Tychowski, any of those.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_05: I would put those up against those any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_05: But you know, you but I think I think we would be talking about Randy Road.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they would have been like neck and neck, and Eddie would have been neck and neck.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_05: All the way through the you know the eighties and the nineties.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_08: Because they w they they were totally different.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I mean, right?
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_08: Um let's see if I have I just won't because now you got me now you got me thinking here.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_08: Uh right there.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_08: All right.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_08: Great stuff.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_08: Great stuff.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so um are you have you ever have you been a big Aussie fan right up right up?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_05: I've I'm not really a huge Aussie fan.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_05: I I like Black Sabbath.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_05: But I'm not a huge Aussie fan.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm more of a Randy Rhodes fan than I am more it's just like it's like Randy Rhodes and oh yeah, Ozzy's worth of you know, for me.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_08: I can see that.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_05: I just appreciate the musicality of Randy.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_05: And I I appreciated the I love the uh the BARY of uh of of Black Sabbath.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_05: And it's it's not like everybody's like, oh, but actually I don't know that's if you like I think we've talked about this before, but if you read like Black Sabbath lyrics, oh yeah, they're very pro-Christian.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_05: Of course they are.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_05: You know, everybody's like, you know, and everybody's like, oh no, they're all the devil, blah, blah, blah.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, they're not.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_08: And it's like, don't let the devil in.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, exactly.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's like, it's like, you know, the way that it's presented, yes, it seems very in the imagery, yeah.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_05: But it's actually very, you know, look at the lyrics for after forever.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_05: And you'll go, oh, my you know, I could see this being preached on a in a behind a pulpit on a Sunday morning.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_08: I tell my wife this all the time, she doesn't believe me.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_08: So read it for yourself.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, read it.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_05: Just read the lyrics sometimes.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_05: If you if you just put the lyrics up there, people are like, oh, that must have been Billy Graham.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not, you know, I'm not being prestigious about it.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_05: I agree.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_08: Uh okay, so the other album that came out on this day, November 7th, uh, was from 1989.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_08: And this artist had a rough patch in the 80s.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_05: I think so.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_08: There was there were quite a few that had a rough patch.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_08: And but I mean there's there was there were drugs, right?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_08: And alcohol.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_08: But they also put out some just kind of mediocre albums.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_08: Um, and this was like a almost a return to form for this artist.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_08: So it was 1989.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_08: Eric.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_08: Eric Clapson.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_08: Slow hand.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_08: So, yes, this still has the slick 80s production, right?
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_08: But it was a more solid album.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_08: He went to outside writers, uh, namely Jerry Lynn Williams, um, for this song and for a couple other ones.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_08: This was a great song, pretending.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_08: The album is Journeyman.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_08: Which is from 1989.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_05: You just recall Is this the one with Foreverman on it?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_08: Foreverman was an album.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_08: Foreverman was also a Jerry Lynn Williams song.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know, because that's what I I was thinking about it.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_05: Because that was that's an underrated Clapton song.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_08: If you ask me, man.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_08: But there was a so I think that I can't remember which album that was on.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_08: It was in the 80s.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_08: I don't think it was August.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_08: The album August.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_13: Um this song almost has country sensibilities.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_08: The the chorus kind of lifts you up.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_05: If you put a steel guitar in there and a fiddle, somebody should do that.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_05: I'm surprised somebody has it.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_08: Uh there's one there's one part of this song that I've that I misheard the lyrics.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_08: Because for for the long Did I ever tell you about this?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_08: I have no idea, man.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_08: Because there's a part in the next verse that's coming up right before the chorus where it says, Everybody knows strong love can't fail.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_08: Those are the lyrics.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody knows strong love can't fail.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_05: Well, let me let me listen to it.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: See if I can figure it out.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_08: All right, because it's coming, it's coming right up.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, wait.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_05: I think she was pretending.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_08: No, that's not it.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_08: Hold on.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_08: It's after the guitar solo.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_08: Alibi.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_08: Here we go.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_08: Here we go.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_08: This first.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_08: Right before the chorus.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody knows strong love can't fail.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, is that what he said?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_08: Oh.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_08: Do you know what did you think he said?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_05: Well, before that, I thought he said something about fatness forever.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, that's a little weird.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_08: I get lost in alibis.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_08: Sadness can prevail.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_08: Sadness can sadness can prevail.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_05: I thought he said fatness.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody knows strong love can't fail.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_05: What'd you think he said?
• 41:11
  unknown: Alibi.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody knows tone lope can't rap.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't hear that at all.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_05: Let's do it now.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, yeah.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_05: I can hear it now.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_05: Tone loop can rap.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_08: For the longest time.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_08: I thought that's what it said.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_05: Man.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_08: Like, okay.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_05: Clapped and throwing shade at Tone Lope.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_05: That's awesome, man.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_08: So here's This is Anything for Love.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_08: This is very 80s.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_08: But this is also another Jerry Lynn Williams tune, I think.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's the production, right?
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_08: But you remember this one.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_08: This one to me was the riff of this song was very uh Layla-ish.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_05: Is this a rush song?
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_08: From same same uh sound from everything from that era, yeah.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_08: I think this is one of the best songs on this album, actually.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_07: You know the song?
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_07: I know it, but I don't know the name of it.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_07: Bad Love.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_07: Bad Love, thank you.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_07: Phil Collins on drums.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_08: Then of course you've got this one that he did on the Unplugged album.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_08: Lately I've been running on Faith.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_08: Great song.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_08: He does a Ray Charles song called Hard Times.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_08: He does Elvis Presley's Hound Dog.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_08: Or Liebert Stoller, I guess.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_08: Then he had um a co-wright with Robert Cray, called Old Love.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_08: A lot of these songs he plays to this day in concert.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_08: So this is Robert Cray and Eric Clapton playing guitar.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_05: That's too much awesomeness in one side.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_08: I know, right?
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_08: Which they're not uh they're not buddies anymore.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_08: Did you know that?
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_05: No, I didn't know that.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was it was um Clapton's whole stance on the vaccine.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_05: Ah, that's stupid.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_08: And they're uh they had a kind of a bit.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_08: I guess they just don't communicate anything.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, that's sad.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_08: It is sad.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_05: Especially something as stupid superficial.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_08: Stupid.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_05: Then there's this one.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_08: No alibis.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_08: Big kind of a kind of a hit song for him.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_08: Not really.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_08: A big hit, but yeah, none of these were big hits.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_08: This has Daryl Hall singing with him.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_08: Really?
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, and by the way, Live from Daryl's house is back.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, is it?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if you knew that or not.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_08: No, I didn't.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't hear anything.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they were gone for a number of years.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_08: Five five or seven years, something like that, and now they're back.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, this this came out on uh November 7th, 1989.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_08: Um, you know, as 80s albums goes, it's one of my favorite.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_08: Um, simply because the songs still rock.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_08: Let's get to the chorus of this one and then we'll move on.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_08: Some of the other song other uh albums that came out on this date, November 7th.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_08: Just while we're talking.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_08: Uh The Divine Miss M, Bet Midler, 1972.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_08: I know.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_08: Meh.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_08: Space Oddity from David Bowie.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_08: Meh.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_08: In 1972.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_08: Neil Young, Journey Through the Past.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_08: That was also 72.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_08: Uh was Costello and the Attractions, 10 Bloody Marys and 10 How is Your Fathers.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, from 1980.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Eagles Live, that came out.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_08: Undercover from The Rolling Stones.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_08: Under a Blood Red Sky, U2.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_08: Back in 1983.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_08: Um Alice and Chains, their first album, 1995.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Queen.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, 1995.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_08: 1995.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_08: Alice and Chains?
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_08: It was a self-titled album.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe it wasn't their first one.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_08: They can't be the first one.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_08: So it was a self-titled album.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_08: It was just called Alice and Chains.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_08: So maybe, because they do that every once in a while.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_08: They're releasing an album, a debut album, and then a couple years later they'll release an album with just their name.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_05: Talk has done that.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_08: Um.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_08: Nothing else to speak of, really.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_08: A bunch of greatest hits packages.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, those don't count.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they don't count.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_08: Uh oh.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_08: JJ Kale and Eric Clapton, The Road to Escondido came out on this day in 19, uh, in 2006.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_08: Another Clapton.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_08: Foo Fighters, Skin and Bones came out in 2006.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_08: On this day.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_08: So yeah.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_08: Lots of cool albums.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I didn't even get to them all.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_08: So.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_08: Uh let's see.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_08: Let me turn that off here.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_08: So that's that's what I got.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_08: Let's do uh do the alphabet?
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_08: Because we gotta be clean.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_08: We're like on the last the last uh We only got two more.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_08: Two more.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_08: Two more.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_08: All right.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_05: Let's do that.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_08: That was really quiet.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_08: That wasn't very loud.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's better.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so let's uh hear what Beckfinder has for what is even the letter.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_08: Why?
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_08: Because I asked.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_05: You're so funny, I forgot to laugh.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_08: Why?
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_08: It could be Y and T.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_08: Probably not, because I don't think that they're considered to be metal.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_08: It's very hard rock.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_08: Why?
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Will I get it?
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you you you should know this person.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_08: I should know this person?
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's a person.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_08: It's a person.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_08: It's a person.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_08: Why?
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_08: Is why why in their name?
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's Ingve.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_05: It is Ingve.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_08: You said ego.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_08: I knew that one.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_08: Hold on, hold on.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_08: Let me get some Ingve.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, get some Ingve, man.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_08: That's my those are my pipes.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_08: You don't remember, I'll never forget.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_08: Go ahead.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_05: Why is it why is for Ingve Malmstein?
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_05: Swedish guitar legend Ingve Malmstein has been revered for his speed, precision, ego, and I just threw that in.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_05: And unique clash of metal and classical music for over 40 years.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_05: This Grammy nominated guitar hero even made Time magazine's top 10 electric guitarist list.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_05: Notice it said Grammy nominated.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_05: Is he never Grammy winner?
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_08: Hold on, I want to double check here.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_08: Because I still have I st are you done?
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, okay.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_08: I still have the list from Rolling Stone.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_08: Did we was Ingvei on the list?
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_08: I don't remember.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_08: I don't even know if we ever looked for Ingvei.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I'm looking for him right now.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Glenn Tipton and KK Downing from Judas Priest are 219.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_08: Uh let's see.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_08: Nuno's on there, 197.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_08: We already talked about that.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Steve Lukuther.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_08: Dude, he's not even on there.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_05: Well, maybe Rolling Stone finally got something right.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_08: No, I I like him.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_08: I do too.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, he put out some great music.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_08: He did.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_05: I like this song playing right now.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_05: That whole album.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_08: Trilogy.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_05: That's the one with him like on the cover.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_08: Fighting a dragon.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_05: Fighting a dragon with his guitar.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_05: I love that album.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_08: I'm still looking here.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_08: I'm still looking because I'm in the forties.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_08: In the 30s.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_05: If he isn't on the list, I'm actually gonna be kind of surprised.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_08: He is not on the list.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_08: Really?
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_08: He is not on the list.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_08: Um.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_08: Another thing he was known for for his albums is getting great vocalists.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Jolel.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_08: All his vocalists for Gore.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_08: This is Mark Bowles.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Jolan Turner sang for him.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_08: Jeff Scott Soto sang for him.
• 49:51
  unknown: Yep.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I just want to get some guitar in here.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_08: You were talking about Randy Rhodes and his classical stuff.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_08: Ingbe's right there.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_05: Ingve's right there, man.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_08: And his speed.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, you can't take that away from him.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_08: Oh no.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_05: The dude's a great guitar player.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_08: The problem with him is great.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_08: That's really all he does.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_08: You know, you know, he tried to put a Did you ever hear his version of Foreverman?
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, it's terrible.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_08: And it's awful.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_08: He tried to play put out a blues album.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_08: And it was not a blues album.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_05: He is.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_05: I hate to say it.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_05: But he's way too white to have the blues.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, you know what?
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_08: There's uh speaking of just Jeff Scott Soto, there was a song.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, there it is right there.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_08: This is one of my favorite Ingve songs.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's not Jeff Scott's Soto.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_08: I thought it was uh I guess not.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_08: It's Jolene Turner on vocals.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_08: This is one of my favorite.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_05: Really, really great rift, really great solo, and awesome vocals.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_05: I mean big chorus.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_05: Almost sounds like uh Rainbow.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I think that I get a David Lee Roth.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know why I just like David Lee Roth.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, that sounds kind of nice too.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe that's just the only turn.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you can't uh you can't take away the speed and the I mean he's a great guitar player.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_08: He's uh just ask him, he'll tell you.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_05: Just ask him, he'll use whatever.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_08: He um Rick Piano did an interview with him.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_08: I haven't seen it.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_08: I haven't seen it.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_08: I've only seen clips from it then.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, he's he's pretty great.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_08: Just ask him.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_05: Uh there's no e there's no ego in his family.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_05: He's got it all.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_08: So he is good.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, he for for I'm gonna take him back it up, but not always.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_08: You can't always back it up.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_08: But he's I have respect for him.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, absolutely for him.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_05: I love Ingve.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_05: You know, not as much as Ingve loves Ingve, but you know.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_04: So Exactly.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_05: I don't I hope I hope he runs across this episode.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_05: I hope someone does.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_05: He's just like, why are they speaking about Ingve this way?
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_08: In the third person.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_05: He just he just seems like that kind of guy that would refer to himself as a third person.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_07: Alright, so there's that.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_05: Who are they?
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_05: Who are these peons that speak of Ingve like this?
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_08: Let's uh Oh yeah.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_08: I was supposed to go to a meeting tonight.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_08: Oops, I forgot.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_05: Well.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_05: Sorry, sorry.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh well.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_08: Um let's take a break.
• 53:21
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• 53:26
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• 54:36
  SPEAKER_08: And it is time to sometimes I do this, sometimes I don't.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_08: Sometimes I forget to put the music in there.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_05: Well, you know, if we're if we're we're you know, if we're cruising, I mean, you know, you're just you know, just it's easy to forget.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I like this this copy of uh American songwriter you have here.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um it's got the Jonas brothers on it.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, it does.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_05: This one?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah he was in a movie.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, he's been in a a couple movies.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_05: He was in Midway.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, he was.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_05: He was uh he was a sailor.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_05: I thought he was pretty good, actually.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_05: I th Did I see that?
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_08: I did see that.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_05: I I really like the part where the Japanese capture him and then tie him to an anchor and throw him overboard.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe I didn't see that.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_08: I don't remember that part.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah I was like, oh, they should do that to all the Jonas brothers.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_05: Wasn't he also in I have no idea because that's the only movie I've ever seen in.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_08: Wasn't he also in that Tom Cruise movie?
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_08: Uh no.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_08: Um what's his name?
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_08: Is it Joe Jonas?
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_08: I have no idea what you want to do with that.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_08: I don't either.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Jonas Brothers.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_08: Um, because I think um he was I wanna say he was in uh I think it's Nick is it Nick Jonas?
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_08: I think it's Nick Cow.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_08: Nick Jonas.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see if I can get his Yeah, that's him.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so let's see if we can get his um movie IMDB.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_08: Because there was a there was a Tom Hanks movie that was uh he would get killed.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Tom Hanks would get killed, and then he would come back.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_08: It was like uh it was like a um that's that's Tom Cruise.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_08: I mean I didn't say Tom, I mean Tom Hanks, I meant Tom Cruise.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_05: Okay uh that uh a time traveling one.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah where he was fighting like space aliens.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah and it had um had uh Mrs.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_08: Krasinski Krasinski in it, yes.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_08: What's her name?
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_08: Emily Blunt.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_08: Emily Blunt, which was great.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_08: And it was a good movie.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_08: I like I actually I don't like a lot of Tom Cruise movies, and I like That's actually that was actually a pretty good movie.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_05: Um speaking of Emily Blunt, she was in a movie called Sicaro.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh was it Sicaro?
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was Siccaro.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_05: With uh Benicio Del Toro and uh Thanos, Josh Brolin.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_05: Um they're actually making a third one of those, which is actually pretty cool.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't know there was two of them.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_05: Well the the second one was um uh she wasn't in the second one.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_05: But apparently she's gonna be in the third one, so I can't figure that out yet.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_05: You know, the CIA versus Mexican drug cartels.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_05: It's actually they're actually really good movies.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_05: So Oh here, oh here's the episode, here's the uh article.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_08: I am uh maybe I'm wrong.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_08: He wasn't in that Tom Cruise movie.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_08: What was the name of that Tom Cruise movie?
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_05: Something now or Forever or something?
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_05: I can't remember.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_08: Oh no, I'm gonna have to, because this is gonna bug me, so I'm gonna now I'm gonna have to Google Tom Cruise movies.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_08: Because it's gonna bother me.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_08: What if I just do this?
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_08: I'm a label on it.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_08: Edge of Tomorrow.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_08: That's what it was.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_08: Edge of Tomorrow.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_08: Which was a decent movie.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_08: And I thought, for some reason, I thought Nick Jonas played a small part in it, but I guess I was wrong.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_08: You were wrong.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_08: That's okay.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so it's time to climb the wall.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_08: So are you gonna what are you gonna read an article or something while I while I do this?
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I was just I'm just leafing through your uh American Songwriter.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_05: American Songwriter magazine, which, you know, I'm impressed that you still get magazines.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I do.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_05: I got guitar world as well.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um there's a there's a nice article here uh about the edge.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_08: Um you you tell me.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I can't read it because it's the print is so s small and it's dark in here.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I'm really having a hard time reading it.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_08: Well, you will you enjoy that while I go climbing up.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, I'm just gonna just keep on rambling here while, you know.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, what's this?
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_05: Uh special gold edition of the White Snake, the Purple album.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_08: Because it was like how many years?
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_05: Uh see.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_05: Cherry picking the best tracks.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, I can't from Deep Purple, Mark III, and Mark IV lineups, all newly remixed and remastered for 2023.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_05: White Snake's 12th studio album features Reb Beach on guitar and Michael Devin on bass, joined by Joel Holkstra, and uh oh, on his first White Snake album, plus drummer Tommy Aldrich, reappearing on a White Snake studio album for the first time since 1989, slip of the tongue.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_05: Available October 13th.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_05: CD Digital 2LP on gold vinyl.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_08: I think I have that purple album, and I didn't think it was.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's uh Amy Lee from Avanessa.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, it is.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_05: She's she's pretty.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_05: She is pretty much.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_05: She can sing.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, I have an album.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_05: That's great.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_05: I'm still going through your magazine.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's Chris Shifflet.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_08: It is.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_08: He's in there.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_08: That's pretty cool.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_08: Great podcast.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if you've ever heard that or not.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_08: What?
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_08: Chris Shifflet's podcast?
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_08: He has a podcast?
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_08: Shifty or something.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_05: You know who should have a podcast, Gay Groll.
• 1:00:03
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_08: But he's too busy.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_05: I know.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_05: But I'm I love I loved him tell tell stories.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I loved his book.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_08: So I mean, you know, if he just had a podcast, just like Oh, speaking of that, I gotta um Pat Bradon wanted to borrow my storyteller book.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_08: I gotta get that to him.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_08: Um, but that's okay.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_05: What are we talking about?
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_08: Uh okay.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_08: Where am I?
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_08: So I have an album.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_08: How did I get here?
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_07: I have an album.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_07: So let the guest thing begin.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_07: Uh is it a band?
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_05: Where's the band?
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_05: Nice try.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_05: I thought it might.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_05: One of these days you're gonna slip up and tell me.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_05: Probably.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_05: So I just have to come up with a clever line of uh questioning into 50 in a month.
• 1:00:55
  unknown: Shh.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_05: Been there, done that.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_05: I know.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um let's see.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a band.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_05: Height of popularity.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_08: I would say 80s.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_05: 80s.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, speaking of bands, did you know Hootie the Blowfish is gonna be in the main amphitheater in June?
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_08: I did not.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_08: I do I knew they were going out with their summer camp with trucks 2012.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_05: It's part of that tour.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_05: Edwin McCain and um Oh, dude, that would be so awesome.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_05: And uh there's somebody else.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_05: Who was it?
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_05: Somebody we like.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_05: Umie, Edwin McCain, and who is it?
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_05: Dang it.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, too.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_08: Of course, my hair doesn't work right now.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_08: Come on.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_08: There we go.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_08: It is.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm telling you, because we have the technology, you know, we can find this stuff out.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_08: Summer camp with trucks.
• 1:02:00
  unknown: Summer camp with trucks to like 2024.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_05: Collective Soul! Thank you.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, Collective Soul.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_05: That would be a great show.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_05: I think we should plan on going to that.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_05: That would be an awesome show.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_05: Let's let's get Bob.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_08: June what?
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_05: June 14th, I believe.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_08: June 14th.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_05: Main amphitheater.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_05: Is that the one in Bangor?
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_08: Uh yeah.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_05: Main savings.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, Main Savings Amphitheater.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_08: That's it.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_08: That's the Bangor.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_08: Yep, that's waterfront.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so let's uh let's let's do that.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_05: Let's get Bob and let's do that.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_08: We should do that.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_05: And Shane and and whoever everybody else.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_08: I agree.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_08: So I think that would be let's make a plan.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_08: I think that's needed.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_08: I think that's necessary.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_08: You know.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_05: Because we all love Hootie and they're a big influence on our musical career.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_05: So you have a musical career?
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  unknown: Do we?
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_05: It's not good.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_05: But we have a musical career.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_08: And we have Hootie to thank for it, damn it.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, we do.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_05: They were they were an integral part.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_05: Or as Bob would say, an integral.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_05: So.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_05: Um.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_05: But anyway, I digress.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a band.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_05: It's a band.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_05: Late 80s or 80s.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_05: Say late 80s or 80s?
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_08: Uh 80s.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_08: 80s, okay.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um hard rock, uh blues rock.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I would say.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_05: Metal.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_08: Pop rock?
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_08: Hard to categorize.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_08: Uh um I think they've got, well, I want to say hard rock.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_08: But they've had they've had some m minor hits.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_08: Well, they've had one, at least one uh iconic song.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, that was a ballad.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_08: It's Scorpions.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_08: Nope.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_08: And they've had some hit songs that were very poppy, like big choruses.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_08: But they're cheap trick?
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_08: I would say they're a hard rock band, though.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_08: Cheap trick?
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_08: Uh no.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_05: How many people in this band?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um four, five, a million?
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_08: Five.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_05: A bazillion?
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_05: Five.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_08: Alright.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_05: How about some more clues there, Mr.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_08: Guy?
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_08: I believe on their debut album, they have a song that is the name of the band.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_08: Damn Yankees.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_08: No, but you're not far off.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, is it a super group?
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_08: Nope.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_05: What do you mean by oh, is it oh, is it Night Rangers?
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_08: It is Night Rangers.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_08: Jack Lades, of course, Jack Lades.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_08: Was in Dam Yankees and Night Rangers.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_08: So this is the album.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_08: Somewhere in California.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_08: Do you know this album?
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_08: Because I think I do.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_08: Because it's one of my favorite Night Ranger albums.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I I I don't know what it is about it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Just catchy as all get out.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um and Rocky.
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  SPEAKER_05: Does it have that 4 a.m.
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  SPEAKER_05: song?
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  SPEAKER_08: Nope.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_08: No, that's you're thinking of uh Seven Wishes.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_08: That's all right.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_08: And that was in the 80s.
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  SPEAKER_08: This one came out, this is on Frontiers.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, is it?
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, this came out in 2011.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, wow.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_05: That was brilliant.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_08: So this is a later one.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_08: Uh of the and they're still going, by the way.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_08: They're still and they're still going strong.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_08: They just released um, you know how Styx did that.
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  SPEAKER_05: Speaking of egotistical guitar players.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right, Brad Gillis.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_08: Brad Gillis.
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  SPEAKER_08: Great guitar player.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_05: No doubt.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um, they just put out uh an album with um the contemporary youth orchestra.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that's right.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_05: We were talking about that.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_08: So uh and I have the Styx one, and Foreigner did that too recently, I think, as well.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_08: Might not have been with the contemporary youth orchestra, but it was with an orchestra.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_08: Um but this album from Night Ranger is just catchy, just straight up.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_00: All my life I've been flipping something, something.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_08: Growing up in California.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, baby.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um just the the choruses and just it's just such a this is a great one too.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_08: This is Lay It On Me.
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  SPEAKER_08: And the funny thing is, is a lot of these songs, of course, they have Jack Blades, bass player and lead singer.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_08: But Kelly Keggy is the drummer and also a lead singer.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_08: I love all of their stuff.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_08: I tend to lean towards Kelly Keggy's voice.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know why.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_01: This is lay it on me.
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  SPEAKER_12: And you're not being on my head, shut up.
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  SPEAKER_08: They know how to write a pop chorus.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_08: You know.
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  SPEAKER_08: Big big big ear candy.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_08: I'll show you a couple more.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_08: This one's called No Time to Lose You.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_08: Not really sure what that means, but you the and I think uh Joko said this to this to us because this is with Joel Hulkstraw on guitar and Brad Gillis.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_08: And I know because Josh, how can I say this?
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_08: So Josh did a uh theater production of Rock of Ages.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_08: Uh which Joel Hulkstraw had something to do with, not necessarily his production of it, but with the actual production of like the Broadway production of Rock of Ages.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_08: And and anyway, Joko being who Joko is, uh very direct and and not really afraid of anything.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_08: Uh he hooked up with Joe Holkstra and they had conversations.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_08: And one of the conversations he had with him was he enjoyed all the guys in Night Ranger uh while while he was there, but it was very um everything was planned.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I'm sure.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_08: The music was planned.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_08: You know, they it's like a machine.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_08: You know, and he liked being in Whitesnake because he kind of could kind of, you know, do his own thing if he wanted to.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_08: But there you go, big chorus.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_08: So the last one I'm gonna play is my favorite song on this album.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_08: And it's featuring Kelly Keggy on vocals, and I don't know why it's my favorite.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_08: I just I just dig it.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_08: It's again, it's a catchy chorus.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_08: This is called End of the Day.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_09: Too young to know what I'm saying, the last time it's different.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_06: I mean the catchy.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_06: Just rock.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_05: That's what that's what's missing in today's music.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_05: I know.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_05: They don't make big catchy choruses anymore.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_08: They don't build them that way, you know, like like this is obviously the verse, right?
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_08: And this part right here is obviously like a pre-chorus, like a build-up right here.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_06: Because it's bit it's different than the verse, yeah, and it's building up to the chorus, and then you have the big chorus.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_06: Next is the bridge.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so it'll be different.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_01: And the guitar solo.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_01: Then the other guitar player.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_05: He's gotta have it.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_05: Here we go.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_05: There it is.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_06: But then it builds up to the chorus.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_08: It's I mean it's it's textbook.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_08: That's formalaic.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_08: But it's but it's great.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_08: It works.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's great.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, that's my favorite song off that album.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_08: Somewhere in California.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_05: That's it, man.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_05: California.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_08: From Night Ranger.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_08: Somewhere in Cali.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_08: I saw them too.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_08: I took Jude to see those guys.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_08: And uh Brad Gillis was just really stupid to watch.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_05: Of course he is.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_08: Great guitar player, but man, you're you're 50 something years old, 60 years old, whatever it is.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_05: Stop licking your guitar.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, stop licking your guitar.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_05: It's not cool anymore.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't even really cool back then, to be honest with you.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, just stop it.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so that's episode 172.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I guess we'll uh let's see, next week is the 14th episode.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_05: We should take the week of things.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_08: Um I guess we'll see the next week.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe maybe we can draw the worst.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_07: I don't even think he's doing anything.
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_07: You know how?
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_07: That's how I got to second place.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_07: This is past week.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_08: That's why and I'm like, Chris McCaffrey was on a bye, and uh uh somebody else, and I was like, I'm not saying anything.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's I was like, he's like in fourth place, and I'm like, I know he's not doing it.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_05: He's not letting it go.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_08: And of course Jude is inverse.
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_05: Of course Jude's in five.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_08: I said I said that to I said that to him.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_05: Of course I feel bad, I've already beat up on Finn twice.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm not even having that great a season.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_08: Um Finn doesn't really look at it.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_08: Because Finn has to use my iPad because he doesn't have a device.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_08: But um, I'm gonna go.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_05: That's kind of dumb.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I'll change things when I become old.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_05: Don't worry about it.
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_05: We're going back to it.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_05: Peace be with you, and also with you, and with you too, Mofo.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, peace out, homies.
• 1:17:06
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• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Woohoo! One of these days, Ralph.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_03: One of these days.
• 1:17:34
  SPEAKER_03: How right in the kisser!