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Episode #62: NEW Data Reveals Toxic Levels of Heavy Metals, Glyphosate and Hormones in Common Foods · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_01: Just think of the options.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, go back to more primit more primitive society.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, go back to pre-1900, uh pre-1800, and think about the options that humanity has had in their food until extremely recent days.
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  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have the option for glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have the option for these carcinogenic for antibiotics in their meat in their meat residues in their meat.
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  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have the option for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so the fact that we are are currently experimenting, we're experimenting on ourselves with an option list that has not been part of the of the human um food option for millennia.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome everybody to another Beyond Labels Podcast with Joel Salatin and Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cena McCullough and our bantering conversations.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for joining us again.
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  SPEAKER_01: And today we have another cool um finding from Cena about the school lunch program.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm gonna turn it over to Cena to introduce the topic and then we'll we'll see where we go with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Joel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so again, this is about um a new finding regarding school lunches.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you don't have kids in school or grandkids in school, stay tuned because this is not just about um how this affects our children.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is actually how this affects all of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the um the organization Moms Across America um basically tested 43 school lunch samples from different states.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are foods like um corn dogs, sandwiches, pizza, fries, um hamburgers, green beans, grapes, celery, tacos, waffles, blueberry muffins, cereal bars.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are all foods that are um that are given to our children um when they go to school and they eat the school lunches.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are representative of those types of foods.
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  SPEAKER_00: They tested 43 different foods, and this is what they found.
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  SPEAKER_00: 95% of the school lunch items contained carcinogenic, which carcinogenic means you know cancer causing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So 95% of the school lunch items contained cancer-causing, um, endocrine disrupting, and liver disease causing glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_00: So 95% of the items had glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_00: 74% of the samples contained at least one of 29 different types of pesticides.
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  SPEAKER_00: There were four veterinary drugs and various hormones found in nine school lunch samples.
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  SPEAKER_00: So some of the drugs were like antifungals and antiparasitic drugs that were found in school lunch samples.
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  SPEAKER_00: 100% of the school lunch samples contained heavy metals.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some one of them contained heavy metals at a level that was up to 6,293 times higher than the EPA's maximum level allowed in drinking water.
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  SPEAKER_00: The foods were highest in lead and cadmium.
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  SPEAKER_00: And lead, just one thing you can do is cause learning disabilities.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, no surprise, the samples of these foods were all, as they say, abysmally low in nutrients.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this again is just 43 food items representative of what our kids are eating in their school lunches.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they are testing positive, the vast majority of them for glyphosate, other pesticides, heavy metals, some of them for hormones and veterinary drugs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we finally have some data, some real data, to support Joel, you're and I long-standing claim that the food that not only that we're feeding our kids in these school lunch programs, but the food that's actually this is for the most part, this is representative of a typical Western diet, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Most the Western diet most people consume about 80% of their calories from processed foods.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Cena, could could you could you run um could you run through some of those those food samples?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think I think that that you you went nice and slow down through what was found, and we're certainly not surprised, but I think to tie this into uh to to the greater, you know, to the non-lunch, to to the greater American uh diet, can you can you just um ri you know run down oh I don't know 10 or so of the because I I found them I I was I was expecting you to say potatoes and corn and but but you weren't you were saying you were saying other things like like you know uh whatever um snack bars and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So can you can you just run down some of some of those food items?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of the my point is that Americans are eating a lot of these things not in school.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's why I wanted to bring this story to our listeners, because it's it doesn't just apply to the school kids, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: This is more representative, like I said, of what a typical American is eating, and also representative of um, you know, when people say to me, Oh, I do like um 80-20 or 90-10 or I eat very well six days of the week, and then I take a cheat day and they eat foods that are on this list, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not like this the foods that I'm gonna list off that are given to the school kids, it's not as though we source these foods from a like specific bank that is like isolated for these are these are the only foods that the kids are gonna get.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like this is different flour than what we're what the general public is gonna get, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the kids have a separate orchard where their apples grow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not, it's the same.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so and so here here's a here's some of the the food items.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll list them again.
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  SPEAKER_00: So a sandwich.
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  unknown: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: How many people eat sandwiches?
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  SPEAKER_00: And in in this, um, in this study, a hundred percent of the wheat products, a hundred percent tested positive for glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, wheat tortillas that were on the tacos, um, high that found high levels of glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of the highest levels of glyphosate was found on the wheat tortilla.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, the beef from the beef taco.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, the there's waffles, because again, sometimes the schools don't just serve lunch, they also serve breakfast.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the children who are eating breakfast and lunch, let's assume they also um will eat dinner.
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  SPEAKER_00: That means two-thirds of their total diet consists of these toxins.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we wonder why kids are having so many problems, you know, getting sick and paying attention in school, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, we also have like a sausage stick, so sausages, uh, garlic bread, um, green apple.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, let's see, a cinnamon pancake, a muffin, pasta, cheeseburger.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh the cheeseburger actually has um 71 nanograms per gram of total effective glyphosate, which um if you get over, I think it's 25, that's when they say that you're gonna that you're dealing with problems.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it it had um well over the amount that's that the the government says is allowable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um pizza, pizza had 92, almost 93.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, apple, sweet potato fry, um a corn dog, uh meat balsa, strawberry, banana, yogurt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, here it if the total effect of glyphosate is above 25, um, it could have harmful effects.
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  SPEAKER_00: It has even been shown to lead to things like fatty liver, which actually one out of three people in the US currently has uh is fatty liver, um, and it's that number is growing in children.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh and the theory is that glyphosate is a main contributor to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So anything over 25.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I say the pizza, the pizza had 156.
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  SPEAKER_00: So clearly substantially over the 25, which in my opinion, even at a 25 is not a safe level, but we're going on you know the government's guidelines here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yes, those are those are foods that you see people eating out, you know, the typical American eats these foods.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, so this whole uh concept that you and I talk about where we're trying to find clean, nutrient-dense food in large part to lower our toxic burden, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And and the reason is because you see what mainstream food provides.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is what the industrialized food system provides for our kids, for our grandkids, and for us to consume.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and if you you cannot sustain uh in the long term a healthy, um at least not a happy life, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: With this kind of toxin going into your body.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, no, you can't.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, it's um I did a I did an essay recently on um on what does what does the USDA believe?
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh not not what they're not what they say they believe, you know, but what they actually in practice do believe.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um and I think it's important to realize that that a belief system uh determines the decisions you make uh as as you process information, as as you decide, here's what I'm gonna do, your belief system uh bears tremendously on uh the decisions you're gonna make.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and this is the same true in in you know in business as well as individuals.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so if you if you have uh if you believe that food should be cheap, if you believe that that volume is everything and quality is nothing, if you believe uh that uh that scale uh that that that scale requires centralization and not duplication.
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  SPEAKER_01: These are big kind of mega what worldview paradigm beliefs.
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  SPEAKER_01: But but in practice, uh a cheap food policy uh if food is supposed to be cheap, and of course a school lunch program, it only allows, you know, whatever it is, it's it's like it's like you know, a buck ten or something a meal.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's really, really, really cheap.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and so if if you if that if that's your policy, then uh inherently uh it's going to drive your decision making to uh to cheapen it down, to cut corners, to um you know, uh to to throw in um toxicity, to to not to try to shortcut nature, okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: And and and so uh so this simply um this simply reflects it's it's a physical mana, it's now an empirical test that reflects the outcome of of a of a cultural paradigm.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh you sum that up so beautifully.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because as soon as I saw this in the test results, I thought, well, not everybody has kids in the school system, but that's a narrow, short-sighted view of what this amazing data set, the Mops Cross America is supplying for us.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I read this and I said, okay, number one, this is the result, like right, you you get what you asked for, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Americans in large part have not stood up in defense of our food system.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is what we asked for, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um two, this is um this is a dream set of data for us because it's more um it's more ammunition for us that this is why we do the way what we do.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is you know why we make these choices.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the third part for me was to be steadfast, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: As you know, a lot of people will say that I'm very rigid with my diet uh because I don't falter from it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they'll say things like, oh, well, you know, just come out to eat with us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just it's one time, you know, like it's it's not gonna hurt you, or you know, just try this food.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I get a lot of judgment, a lot of judgment for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I what other people consider rigid, I consider disciplined.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's like what you're saying, it's based your actions are gonna reflect your belief system.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what would any Cena would anybody come up to you and say, um, oh, just just flirt a little bit with this guy, it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, for your marriage, for your for your marriage.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh just just just uh flirt a little bit with some other guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: It it it'll it'll be interesting to you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, we we would those of us with conviction that are, you know, we would never say that we would never agree that that's a you know, that's a helpful thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're both toxic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, both toxic.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and and so uh, but but in this in this sphere, we as as a culture, um, as a society, we simply have not uh engendered that degree of interest, care, and oversight in in our you know, as I've I've traveled to how many different country, you know, countries, and um and and everywhere I go around the world, I always ask.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm going to Africa for the first time in November.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll be in uh South Africa for 10 days doing some doing some uh workshops and classes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking forward to asking them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every place I go, I ask, I say, when you think of American food, what do you think?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've never had any answer except McDonald's.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so you it is sad.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's it we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um and we ostracize the people who don't support those, you know, fast food establishments or you know, that don't support the industrialized food system.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because if you think about it, so people will come up to me and try to tempt me with, oh, here, eat this, eat a cake.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why aren't you eating a cake?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's your birthday, you know, like my birthday's coming up, I'm not gonna have a cake.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just, you know, don't want it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, or here, come out and eat this, you know, fast food pizza with us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's accepted.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm looked at, I'm perceived as kind of like this fringe person who's almost like a threat to them, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm not complying.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if I went up to them and said, here, try this sauteed liver with onions, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what would be the response?
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  SPEAKER_00: They'd be like, Oh my gosh, that's so gross.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, why would you even eat that?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's our we are so far removed from our food supply and from the way that God intended us to eat, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's just it's flipped.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and when you think, you know, now just think of the options, you know, go back to um more more primitive more primitive society.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, go back to pre-1900, uh, pre-1800, and think about the options that humanity has had in their food uh for you know until until extremely recent days.
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  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have the option for glyphosate, they didn't have the option for you know, these carcinogenic for for antibiotics in their meat in their meat residues in their meat.
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  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have yeah, they didn't have the option for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um and and so the fact that we are are currently experimenting uh we're experimenting on ourselves with an option list that have not been that has not been part of the uh of the human um food option for millennia uh i is is throwing a a massive whatever uh you know discombobulation kind of in our in our whole psyche because think think of all the you never had to think about this food or that food from a toxicity standpoint before.
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  SPEAKER_01: You never had to think about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: You just had to decide do I want to do I want to spend a meal with that you know uh crazy woman or not, right?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: And and and and so now this throws another whole set of um of stipulations, decisions, and things that we have to sort through in a in our lives, which you know complicates our complicates our brains.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: It does.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's the government, I realize, keeps us busy, right?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: If you really want to know the truth about like what you're eating or the truth about your medical care, it it's gonna keep you busy, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you have to know a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, like if I think about how much time and research it took me to figure out how to navigate through a grocery store without getting me and my family sick.
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  SPEAKER_00: That took a lot of time to figure out how to actually read the labels.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I and I love how you're um how you boil this down to it's an experiment.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is all this food, the foods that I've listed off, the food that we're feeding our kids, the food that we're finding in the grocery store, that's all these processed foods, you know, with these different chemicals that you can find in them.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is experimental food, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: The government doesn't actually declare it to be experimental, experimental food, but we know it's an experiment.
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  SPEAKER_00: We know there's not long-term data that's been collected on what's going to happen 20, 30 years from now when you eat these types of foods.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we know that no one looks at what happens when you combine the foods together, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: What happens when you eat the chemicals from your soda with the chemicals that are in, you know, a chip.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nobody actually looks at that, not um acutely or in the long term.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I'm really concerned about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, acutely, yeah, you know, you're not seeing people walk down the street and you know, having a bowl of cereal in the morning, like they're fruity pebbles, and they walk down the street and they die, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: We're not seeing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we are concerned about the long-term ramifications of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the more, and it does appear in the data that the more toxins we're adding to the food supply and you know, other environmental areas, the earlier people are getting sicker, hence the massive sicknesses that have exploded amongst children, um, including autism and learning disabilities, uh, which you could connect directly with the results from these food samples from this this recent test.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure, sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and and many of these toxins are neurological in neurological in in in um in development.
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  SPEAKER_01: In other words, they're they're they're developed from a neurological standpoint in the plant.
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  SPEAKER_01: They they they disrupt um you know, glyphosate, you know, they they disrupt um the if if a plant has a nerve system, uh it disrupts those nerve systems.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um so it would it would be normal that that would disrupt you know um brain function and all that, you know, psychological stuff in in humans.
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  SPEAKER_01: What what does moms across America plan to do with this?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you brought that up, Joel.
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  SPEAKER_00: So on page three, this is a 19-page report.
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  SPEAKER_00: On page three, they make a statement.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now tell me if this, tell me if this is in alignment with their solution.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: The statement says testing school lunches for glyphosate, pesticides, heavy metals, hormones, and nutrients is something our federal government agencies should be doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: These test results should be made publicly available.
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  SPEAKER_00: Moms Across America is clear that the federal government is primarily in the pockets of big ag and big chem.
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  SPEAKER_00: So these actions are unlikely ever to be taken.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, strong stance.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds like you and me, right?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: I read that and I was like, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, so what's going to be our solution?
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So at the bottom, it says, uh, it says this.
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  SPEAKER_00: We ask all concerned citizens to contact their Congress members and the USDA to demand that they take immediate action to provide safe, nutrient-densed food to our nation's children.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh talk about talk about lost opportunity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Joel, when I read that first statement, were you like me?
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  SPEAKER_00: Were you getting all excited that maybe they've come around?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I I was I I I I was I was I was thinking, okay, so they're gonna they're gonna make a directory of directory of non-toxic uh uh of non-toxic uh provenance and um and and and boycott pull all their kids pull all their kids out of public schools until the schools um source from non-toxic provenance i mean that that would have some legs to it that's a good solution right i mean that's how you get things moved in the school system you get the angry parents involved right you get masses of the angry parents involved um not okay this is awful we know the government's not gonna fix it we know the food industry is not gonna fix it so ask your congressman in congress to i mean your your congressman in the usa to fix it like nothing's gonna change the the the the best case scenario they'll create another board right the board to oversee nutrient dense foods and children's lunches right and it'll be like happy our goal is to help our children heal from these you know these toxic foods um and and they'll do nothing they will spend more tax money and they'll do nothing it it it strikes to the there's an old Chinese uh or maybe Chinese Roman I don't know it's it's an ancient old axiom that says you cannot help the power less by working through the powerful yes and and so if they want the power less in this case their children if they want children to eat better they're not going to get anywhere working through the the the current system again i i'm back to my belief thing uh a system that that at that it's it's fundamental overriding priority the the objective is uh how can we do this as cheaply as possible if if if that's the overriding objective you're never going to get authenticity uh from anything uh that where the overriding objective is as cheap as possible without regard to quality or or anything or pathogenicity toxicity whatever um and you're you're not gonna get the best uh dress shirt you're not gonna get the best pair of shoes you're not gonna get the best car if the overriding objective is cheap yeah yeah and and if you ask them to try to fix it even in the best case scenario if they make changes they're still gonna be based on those same cheap principles on that same philosophy so it's not gonna be a solution that you or I would pick you know it's gonna be a band aid to cover it over you know Joel I had the privilege one time of being on an airplane sitting next to um a man that was the former um principal of a school in Virginia and we brought up he brought up the school lunch program because I was going over to California to give a talk about the farm bill right and he said that he was appalled like when he became a principal he found out what the children were eating he was appalled by it and I said he said that they changed it and I said wait the the government let you change it like how did you get the state to let you change that and he said we didn't involve the government at all they found money in the budget and they went out and had their um their cooks actually go do the grocery shopping and buy the real food that's in the grocery store and they picked you know higher quality foods and those chefs came in and they actually like made the biscuits from scratch like you know they started scratch cooking.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and he and I said well did you get in trouble for it and he was like we were on like a don't ask don't don't don't tell policy like nobody seemed to care what we did as long as we weren't asking for more money or bothering anybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they just took on the initiative themselves like he didn't wait for permission.
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  SPEAKER_00: He didn't beg the government to change you know the rules he just said this is wrong.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: I want my students to have better than this.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna find the money and make it happen.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: And they did.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Wow that's great.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know I was on a had a similar story I was on a food security uh summit conference talk in somewhere I don't remember where but one of the speakers was from Florida and she was the um you know she was the whatever the head dietitian for a big school district and what they did that they they wanted they wanted grass finished um grass finished beef in the in the lunch program but they couldn't afford it and so they worked with parents and sold the top end of the animal you know the steaks and the roasts and stuff to parents and that funded the little extra they needed to be able to get the ground the the hamburger the low end of the animal uh into the school lunch program again completely circumvented that they didn't go to the government for help they didn't do anything they just as a as an entire school district they just upgraded upgraded their their lunch program dramatically by involving the parents coming uh alongside them uh offering the uh the option to to put a little more money in the ground beef so they could offer grass finished uh burgers with you know with none of these toxins in it and uh and they just did it on themselves so you know I I've run into um uh you know uh I've run into these folks around around the country um even hospit you know hospital foods same situation all institutional food and when we're talking about food lunch programs I am can I am absolutely certain that if the same study were done for any institutional program uh hospitals prisons um you you would you would find the the same thing in fact a guy picked me up uh from the airport I was doing a conference in uh where I was uh Alabama guy picked me up from the airport and he was the he he was worked at the local prison he was he was a a a big wheel in the local prison so I just asked him about things and I asked him you know what is the what is the per diem meal allowance for the prisons and it was like it was like 73 cents 73 cents per meal um and I said how do you do it he said well when when uh sell by dates go and they have scratch and dents and they have problems at Walmart you know we we get we basically pick up all the salvage stuff they get to write it off as a as a donation um to the to the prisons and we get to get cheap food and that's what we you know that's what we use that's how we're able to make budget and so um so here we go with uh with great information and lack of leverage yes and I want to point out like since we're you know we're about to wrap up we're talking about the solutions here I love the that solution that you provided the one that I provided um I want to point out that another reason why though the children are eating these foods uh these toxic foods and another reason why Americans are eating these toxic foods is again because we're not upset enough right the citizens are not upset enough to actually take action if the parents were very upset about this they would rise up and something would be done right if they if enough number of them rose up something would actually be done and we're yeah most of these parents are eating this in their homes that's exactly right and that's my point is that we look at this you and I kind of in our own little bubbles over here and we're like oh my goodness I would never want my kid to eat that like I would totally like be you know picketing riding on the steps and but it's easy to then forget that the parents are eating the same thing like you said.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: So they don't see anything wrong with it.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: So we're still it's like we're at step one the awareness you know and I'm hope and I have seen in my own journey and in others' journeys that parents are quicker to stand up for their children's health than their own health.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm hoping that studies like this one that that Moms Cross America has released that directly measure the toxins in the food I'm hoping that things like these studies will bring that level of awareness to the parents.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: So if they're not ready to change their diet maybe they're ready for the first step to say hey the food that my kid's going to eat at at school that better not have all these toxins in it.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: What can I do to make a difference here?
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: How can I get that to stop?
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah wouldn't it be cool if if the new slogan was for the sake of my kids for the sake of my kids I just got goosebumps I'm just yeah yes and that's what we're talking about here.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: They're sicker than we ever were at this age and it's not getting any better.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's not getting we are dooming them to a long life of suffering from illness.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yes and this would be a good place for parents to start read the report look at what's actually in the food and stand up for the kids go to the PTA meeting join together and take a stand against this you know and for the rest of us who don't have kids that are you know in the school system or grandkids in the school system or who are just alarmed that maybe we eat some of these foods sometimes and now we see data of what's actually in the food, you can obviously make your own changes right it's one meal at a time.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: Don't make it overwhelming and say make a declarative statement like that's it I'm never eating that food again.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Don't put that pressure on yourself.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: Just take it meal by meal and say what do I want to put in my body in this meal yeah and that's why that's why we wrote Beyond Labels and we're you know we're we in so many ways these all of these um these podcasts um they uh they they they keep they keep uh you know going back to the basic things that we addressed in in Beyond Labels you know with new twists new information but but it's the it's the same foundational stuff and and I would just as we close here Sena I would like to just encourage folks if if if this is good for you if you think this is something our culture needs please tell your friends about this podcast uh you know we don't do this for our health uh we we we do we do this because we think it's it's important and it's something that we can do for our our society and our culture for our culture's health our neighbor's health our friends' health and um and and so um be our be our little be our little buzzers and and buzz your friends about us and bring them on so that we can continue to uh you know to continue provide you this this kind of information thank you for your participation thank you cena for finding this great uh information uh as always and thank you for joining us on another episode of Beyond Labels