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Big Stu-ey: Mike Ditka the Legend and Polls · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: A sad day today as legendary coach Mike Ditka has
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  Speaker 1: passed away at the age of 86. Just one of
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  Speaker 1: those figures, NFL figures. Mikey, you and I started God
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  Speaker 1: Bless Football together. We love football. love football. And Mike
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  Speaker 1: Ditka is just one of those guys, at least for me,
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  Speaker 1: and I know we're different ages now, but at least
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  Speaker 1: for me, is just one of those figures that you
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  Speaker 1: grew up, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Want to say worshiping.
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  Speaker 1: He was just such a big, colossal figure and one
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  Speaker 1: of the NFL's biggest and best head coaches. And he
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  Speaker 1: has passed away here at the age of 86. He
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  Speaker 1: lived a good life. He's a Super Bowl champion. He
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  Speaker 1: was the coach of maybe the best defense in the
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  Speaker 1: history of the NFL. and possibly one of the best
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  Speaker 1: teams in NFL history. And so today is a sad day,
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  Speaker 1: even while saying he has lived a good, long, productive life,
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  Speaker 1: 86 years of age. But I am told that Taylor
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  Speaker 1: wants to celebrate here Mike Ditka, and we should celebrate
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  Speaker 1: the life of Mike Ditka today with a Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 2: And I am very excited about that. What is this
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  Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore?
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  Speaker 3: So the Mount Rushmore, in honor of Mike Ditka, it's
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  Speaker 3: the Mount Rushmore of people who wore a vest.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. That's a good one.
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  Speaker 4: I've got two that need to be on there, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm nervous that they're not.
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  Speaker 1: Time out, time out. So when he said that, Mount
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  Speaker 1: Rushmore of people who wore a vest.
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  Speaker 3: Your mind already went to two people. Yes, that's crazy
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, really.
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  Speaker 4: Two people listen you're gonna bring up an icon like
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  Speaker 4: mike ditka who absolutely should be on this list and
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  Speaker 4: i'm assuming that the whole reason we're doing it is
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  Speaker 4: because he's one of the.
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  Speaker 5: Four um you know you better do it right that's
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  Speaker 5: all i'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Oh i have one i don't want to say it
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  Speaker 2: i want to ruin the mount rushmore here.
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  Speaker 3: No i you guys might have your list i might
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  Speaker 3: have my list.
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  Speaker 2: Okay i thought it was gonna be are.
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  Speaker 4: You getting are you getting nervous taylor that you forgot somebody.
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  Speaker 3: No I'm very confident in my four.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll fill in the gaps if indeed he did
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  Speaker 1: forget someone. Do you have imaging for this?
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we have music.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. Amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Ditka. Passes away at the age of 86. Mikey,
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  Speaker 1: you would say, I would say Mike Ditka might be
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  Speaker 1: trying to think of the Mount Rushmore of You can
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  Speaker 1: make the argument that Ditka is the most iconic figure
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  Speaker 1: in NFL history, I think. He would be on the
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  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of iconic... I don't know, Woody? Of iconic
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  Speaker 1: NFL figures.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Belichick, Parcells, Ditka, Madden.
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  Speaker 2: Madden's certainly on there.
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  Speaker 3: Lombardi.
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  Speaker 2: Lombardi's certainly on there. Just figures, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if we're going coaches, then yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: To me, as someone born in 1994... I missed the
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  Speaker 3: majority of Mike Ditka's coaching career. I think he was
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  Speaker 3: still coaching in, what, 1998, 1999, at the very tail
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  Speaker 3: end of his career. I know Coach Ditka for one thing,
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  Speaker 3: kicking and screaming. I cleared my calendar tonight. My household,
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  Speaker 3: we're watching, kicking, and screaming.
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know him from the Chicago Bears for trading
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  Speaker 1: an entire draft class for Ricky Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Three-time Super Bowl champion, five-time Pro Bowler, two-time AP NFL
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  Speaker 3: Coach of the Year, Pro Football Hall of Fame class
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  Speaker 3: of 1988.
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  Speaker 2: He had Ricky Williams dressed in a wedding gown.
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  Speaker 1: He traded an entire draft class when he was the
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  Speaker 1: head coach of the Saints to get Ricky Williams.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was on ESPN, the magazine. On the cover.
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  Speaker 3: I actually do remember that. Very faintly.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead with your Mount Rushmore of people who wear
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  Speaker 1: a vest.
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  Speaker 3: So I have one honorable mention.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Han Solo. Because Han Solo is a great character. He
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  Speaker 3: just happens to wear a vest. That's very different from
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  Speaker 3: being a great vest wearer. Because when you think of
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  Speaker 3: Han Solo, you think Millennium Falcon, you think Chewbacca, the Blaster,
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  Speaker 3: Princess Leia. Best case scenario, I think the vest might
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  Speaker 3: be like the fifth best thing you think of when
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  Speaker 3: you think of Han Solo. He's bigger than the vest,
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  Speaker 3: which I think is a compliment to Han Solo.
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  Speaker 2: He is bigger than the vest. Put it on the poll.
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  Speaker 2: Is Han Solo bigger than the vest? He's more than
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  Speaker 2: just a vest. You're right. That is not someone who
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  Speaker 2: dawned on me, Mikey, eh?
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  Speaker 5: No, it's a good O-L-I.
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  Speaker 2: Was it one of your two, though?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. It wasn't my one. I only have one.
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  Speaker 3: My first spot on the Mount Rushmore. So all these
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  Speaker 3: spots are pretty interchangeable. Like, that's the difference between my
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  Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore and Stu Gatz's top five. You said it
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  Speaker 3: was an OLI. Mikey, it was an honorable mention. Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Semantics. I mean, he takes these things very seriously.
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  Speaker 3: My first spot.
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  Speaker 2: Aladdin.
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  Speaker 1: I do like the idea of a Mount Rushmore just
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  Speaker 1: having a guy on the outside looking in.
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  Speaker 7: One mountain over?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like off to the side.
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  Speaker 5: One mountain over facing the Mount Rushmore? I like that.
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  Speaker 2: He's outside the Mount Rushmore, but he's looking in.
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  Speaker 3: So the reason why I'm giving Aladdin the first spot, innovative.
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  Speaker 3: He went with the vest and nothing underneath the vest,
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  Speaker 3: which we rarely see people do. So he gets style
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  Speaker 3: points for the creativity there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the rare wear of a vest without a shirt underneath. Correct, yes.
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  Speaker 5: You got to be a beggar to pull that off.
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  Speaker 5: If I do that, nobody's happy.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's asking for that.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody's happy with that.
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  Speaker 3: My second spot on the Mount Rushmore of people who
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  Speaker 3: wore a vest.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest competitor in sports, in terms of the sports
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  Speaker 3: category for this, Jim Trestle.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: That red Ohio State vest.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Timeless that was mine yep that's the guy i wrote
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  Speaker 1: down one name jim trestle and if.
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  Speaker 3: I could if i could circle back to han solo
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  Speaker 3: for a second think han solo again yeah you take
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  Speaker 3: the vest off solo right he's solo still you take
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  Speaker 3: the vest off trestle and he almost looks naked.
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  Speaker 1: Uh put it on the pole if you take the
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  Speaker 1: vest off of han solo is he still han solo.
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  Speaker 2: And if you take the vest off of Jim Trestle,
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  Speaker 2: is he just naked?
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  Speaker 3: You'd agree, though.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I would not recognize him without the vest.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like Clark Kent when he puts on the
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  Speaker 3: glasses and you're like, whoa, is that Superman? And nobody
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  Speaker 3: in the town can tell it's Superman. It's like, he
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  Speaker 3: just put on glasses.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: That feels like Jim Trestle, where I wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 3: to recognize Jim Trestle if he was walking down the street.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Unless he put on the sweater vest and I go, oh,
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  Speaker 3: there's Jim Trestle, great Ohio State coach.
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  Speaker 1: Please put both of those on the poll separately, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. You brought up an interesting point, Mikey.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get to you in just a second.
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  Speaker 1: If Han Solo was walking down the street without the
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  Speaker 1: black vest on, and it's just him, there's a chance
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  Speaker 1: I would not recognize Han Solo.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: He puts that black vest on, though. It changes everything.
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  Speaker 2: I know exactly who it is.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm.
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  Speaker 6: I do.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I think the vest is more to Han Solo than
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  Speaker 1: you're giving credit to the vest for.
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  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 3: I'll hear that argument.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Thanks. Yeah, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting nervous because I've got two names.
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  Speaker 2: And there's two spots.
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  Speaker 5: And he's got two spots left.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And he hasn't said Mike Ditka yet.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Why two spots, though?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Well, he's going to say Mike Ditka.
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  Speaker 5: So you're going to leave off one of my people.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. The math doesn't work for Mikey. Right. Okay. Wow. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Because you had to go with Aladdin.
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  Speaker 3: So my third spot on the mount rushmore of people
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  Speaker 3: who wore a vest this comes from my favorite movie
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  Speaker 3: of all time marty mcfly the red puffer.
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  Speaker 2: Vest absolutely excellent the.
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  Speaker 3: Red puffer vest is in the conversation for most recognizable
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  Speaker 3: outfit in movie history okay love that movie love marty
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  Speaker 3: mcfly That was one of yours, Mikey? That was the
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  Speaker 3: first name I thought of. That's huge for me. It's
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  Speaker 3: Marty McFly.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Marty McFly is– But his second.
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  Speaker 5: Name– They think he's wearing a life vest. Yeah, it's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: But your second name won't be there because it's reserved
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  Speaker 1: for Mike Ditka, I'm assuming, right?
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me that Taylor left this person off.
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  Speaker 4: I think Stugatz, when I say it, you would put
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  Speaker 4: them on there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And then my fourth spot on the Mount Rushmore, people
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  Speaker 3: who wore a vest– It's Coach. It's Mike Ditka. Mike
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  Speaker 3: Ditka's vest transcended football. It became a part of Chicago culture.
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  Speaker 3: Once it becomes a Halloween costume, that's how you know
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  Speaker 3: you've really made it in the vest world, and Mike
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  Speaker 3: Ditka made it. I think you can make the argument
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  Speaker 3: this week, Chicago, Ben Johnson, he should be wearing a vest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in honor of Mike.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he won't.
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  Speaker 3: You never know with Ben Johnson. He's a psycho. He
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  Speaker 3: might pull out a vest.
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  Speaker 2: That guy's blazing his own path. He thinks he's a
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  Speaker 2: better coach than Mike Ditka. No.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, he does.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Deep down inside, he does.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: I think in Chicago, Mike Ditka is reserved to that, like,
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  Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, like, rarefied air conversation where no bull coming
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  Speaker 3: through Chicago knows they'll ever be able to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: surpass what Michael Jordan did for that city. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a similar effect that Chicago coaches have. Like Mark
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  Speaker 3: Trestman never thought he would be bigger than.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, of course.
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  Speaker 3: But also like Mark Trestman never really gave us much
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  Speaker 3: reason to believe he could be bigger than Ditka.
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  Speaker 2: Is Mike Ditka on the Mount Rushmore of Chicago situation?
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  Speaker 2: sports figures? I'm not even certain he is. Ditka? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's not even close, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, before you say, oh, yeah, okay, Michael.
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  Speaker 5: He's the second name on that list.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: One.
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  Speaker 2: Halas?
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  Speaker 5: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Ernie Banks?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: Ditka.
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  Speaker 2: Ditka.
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  Speaker 4: Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Cub? Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Cub?
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  Speaker 2: Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Cup would like a word, but not before Mike Ditka.
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  Speaker 2: Mr.
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  Speaker 5: Cup would like a word. And he's on the Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 2: He's on the Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 3: But he's to the- Sweetness.
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  Speaker 2: He's- Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: No, it's Ditka.
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  Speaker 5: Ditka.
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  Speaker 2: Walter Payton. Ditka. Phil Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Phil Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Ditka.
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  Speaker 5: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Phil.
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  Speaker 5: Get Phil out of here. Come on.
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  Speaker 2: He wants six.
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  Speaker 5: Michael won six. Yeah. I think you can make the argument.
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  Speaker 5: Not everybody can take credit for six championships.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 5: Michael's got that credit.
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  Speaker 3: You can make the argument that going to LA was
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  Speaker 3: bigger for Phil Jackson's legacy and doing it a second
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  Speaker 3: time in a different city.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how about Eddie Belfour?
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  Speaker 3: Patrick Kane?
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  Speaker 4: How?
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  Speaker 5: How about Mike?
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  Speaker 2: How about Mike? Chellios is on there though. Mikey is
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  Speaker 2: thinking Chellios might be on there, right?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, listen, there's, there's going to be a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people fighting for that fourth spot right now.
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  Speaker 5: I've got it because Chicago is a bear's town. I
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  Speaker 5: got it. Leaning Walter Payton.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Sweet. I have it.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I have it as Jordan, Walter Payton,
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  Speaker 3: Ernie Banks, Mike Ditka.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the same four. I've got to say it again.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, Mike Ditka, Walter Payton, Ernie Banks.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're leaving off George Hallis.
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  Speaker 3: Bobby Hull.
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  Speaker 2: Bobby Hull.
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  Speaker 3: I just think the Blackhawks, like in that town, like
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  Speaker 3: they're the very clear like fourth. Frank Thomas, Big Hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Like Brian Urlacher would probably like a word, but when
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  Speaker 3: you have Ditka and you have Walter Payton, all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden in a A four-sport town, it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: get three Bears representatives.
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  Speaker 1: Sports figures, Mount Rushmore. Who was the Cubs manager when
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  Speaker 1: they won the World Series, when they broke the curse?
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  Speaker 3: Joe Maddon.
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  Speaker 5: Joe Maddon.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he's not on there.
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  Speaker 5: Fraud.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: With your glasses, Joe Maddon, I think you're so much
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  Speaker 3: smarter than everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Mikey, who's the guy he didn't put on here?
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  Speaker 5: Rex Ryan.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 5: Rex Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Sweater, though.
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  Speaker 3: Rex.
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  Speaker 2: Sweater vest, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: Ditka's wasn't a sweater vest? No, it was.
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  Speaker 2: But Han Solo, I feel like it was leather. I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely a different material.
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  Speaker 7: It was tactical.
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  Speaker 5: It was tactical. Whatever Han Solo's vest was, it was tactical.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like by the end of Rex Ryan's career, though,
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  Speaker 3: he abandoned the sweater vest.
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  Speaker 4: No, he just went to Buffalo where you could only
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  Speaker 4: wear it for so long before you had to just
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  Speaker 4: put on a big jacket.
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  Speaker 3: Am I misremembering him wearing polos, though? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: When I think of Rex Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: You are. Really?
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  Speaker 5: Really.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Rex Ryan in the black sweater vest.
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  Speaker 3: For the Jets, yes, I remember that very vividly.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the golden age.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Chicago sports, they're having a moment.
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  Speaker 4: Chicago sports fans, I went and just saw my barber,
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  Speaker 4: who's a big Chicago fan, and he was trying to
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  Speaker 4: convince me Tyson Bajan could start for half the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I had to tell him that, but I had
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  Speaker 5: to tell him nicely. I mean, the man does cut
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: my hair.
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  Speaker 2: I understand. It's a special Beijing.
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  Speaker 5: Dangerous game.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so.
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  Speaker 1: Your barber was trying to convince you, and I love
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  Speaker 1: sitting in a barber's chair and they're talking sports with
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  Speaker 1: you and they're just talking your ear off. He tried
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  Speaker 1: to convince you that Tyson Beijing could start for half
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  Speaker 1: the NFL teams?
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  Speaker 5: First off, Stu.
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  Speaker 4: I am losing my hair so fast. The only reason
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: I still go to the barbershop is to have these debates.
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  Speaker 4: The only reason I don't need to do anything.
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  Speaker 3: One of the best places for just good sports talk.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but don't you shut the guy up after he's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, once he's done telling you, hey, Tyson Bajak
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  Speaker 1: can start for half the NFL teams.
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  Speaker 2: What's your response to that? No, he can't.
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  Speaker 3: Is Ben Johnson going with him?
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  Speaker 4: It just erupts in a whole lot of people screaming
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  Speaker 4: at each other about how, how could you say he's
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  Speaker 4: starting over this guy?
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  Speaker 5: That guy's starting. Everybody's checking stats on their phone. It's
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  Speaker 5: a whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: I got it.
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  Speaker 3: If you had to rank the spots most likely to
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: find first take on somewhere, barbershops have to be number one, right?
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  Speaker 2: Airports. Yep.
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  Speaker 5: Airport bars especially. The airport Chili's definitely has.
• 14:39
  Speaker 7: First take on it.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: It was a delight walking through airports when we worked.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: At ESPN and just seeing my face on all the
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: televisions for a show we did seven hours before.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: Can we put this on the poll? What's more likely
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: to have first take on at any given moment? The
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: barbershop or the airport Chili's?
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, put that on the poll.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: And I don't know that there's an answer.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: It's going to come back 50-50.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: 99%. Yes, also put this on the poll.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Not the way to honor Mike Ditka today, but does
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson think he's a better coach than Mike Ditka?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Probably wait until next week to put that on.
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's not put that on this week.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Let's just go ahead and let it breathe a minute.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: Too soon?
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: All right, well, that concludes our discussion about Mike Ditka
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: and Vest.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Let's get to NFL tears. Taylor has tears, Mike.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: He has NFL tears for the games this weekend, and
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: I think he wants us a little wrinkle here. for
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: us to guess what tier each game goes in.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: A little wrinkle like we did last time.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Mikey A is the best at this, I think, guessing.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: He's so good.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mikey is like in my mind. When I read
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: the category of a game, Mikey could go to it immediately.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I know, and I'm so bad I forgot we did
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: this last week. Go ahead. Let's take it away with
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: your tears, Taylor.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: The first game, an off-the-schneid game, And.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Off the schneid to a battle of winless teams, I'm assuming.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Off the schneid. No, it is not a battle of
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: winless teams.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: It's a battle against two teams that lost last week
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: that are looking to bounce back.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: That's bounce-back game, though. That's the bounce-back tier, no?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an off-the-schneid game.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I think it's Titans-Texans.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Stu, you got it!
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: It's Texans-Titans. One of these two teams is going to
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: get off the schneid.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: How did this morph into some sort of competition here?
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: We compete. We compete at everything here.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: We're always competing, yes.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I think the Texans get off the schneid, right?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I do too, yes. The Titans are bad.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: The Titans got no shot.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: D'Amico Ryans is taking over play calling.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: No, of course.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: For the defense.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is such a trend in the NFL. D'Amico
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Ryans taking over play calling. Sean Payton coming to save
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: the Broncos offense all of a sudden.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Give me a break, NFL coaches. Do it against Buffalo.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Take over the play calling. Do it against Cam Ward. Hey,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: tip of the hat.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: That's smart. Stu Gatz is strong in him.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Heady play.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: My next game. The Pretender and Contender game. So one
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: of these teams is going to get elevated to Contender.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: One of these teams is going to be de-elevated, de-escalated
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to Pretender.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: How do you have it so quickly?
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Because I knew it was going to come into this
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: kind of category when I saw the game. Do you
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: need a second or should I just tell them my guess?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Great audio.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: We wait.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Well, we have the NFL and Fox music, too, to
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: help out.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: It's always there for us. Pretender, contender. Mikey, go ahead.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: It's Raiders Patriots.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: It's Raiders Patriots.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I was going to guess that. If I'm being honest,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I was going to guess that, okay? I'm rarely being honest.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: We're going into this game very confused about what two
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: directions these two teams are headed. Feels like we're going
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to get some clarity after this game. One of these
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: two teams is going to jump into contender status.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to get all Izzy on you, but I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: have some follow-ups here.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: What if the Patriots win that game? I don't know.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: 27-24.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: The Raiders are 3-2. The Patriots are 3-2. You're saying
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the Pats are a contender and the Raiders are not?
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Pats are going to move up to contender
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: just because last year all we heard about was their
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: schedule was so easy. And every time everybody mentions that,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: there's never any mention that, The Patriots went on the
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: road and beat the Bills last year and somehow did
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: it again this year. Drake May needs as many notches
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: on his belt as he can against quality teams, and
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I think the Raiders check off the box of being
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: a quality team right now.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, they lucked into playing a quality team.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: No one expected the Raiders to be a quality team
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: five weeks into the season.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: You can only play who's on your schedule.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: You're right. I'm sorry. All right, good guess, Mikey.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: My next game, a February comes early game.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, that one's on Monday night.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Isn't it?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Sunday or Monday. It has to be, right?
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I believe that one's on Monday night.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It is Bill's Rams.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: It's Bill's Rams. If I tell you guys, fast forward,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: close your eyes right now and picture we're at Radio Row.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: And the game we're talking about, the game we're previewing
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: is Bill's versus Rams. Yes. Sign me up for that
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: right now. Rams playing in their home stadium?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. Sign me up for that as well.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen in his first Super Bowl?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: That would be Josh Allen getting off the schnod too.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: It would be, yes.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: The postseason schnod.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yep. Who would you be rooting for in that game?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Allen to win his first or Stafford to win his second? Rams.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I hate to say it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I'm rooting for Josh Allen.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So am I. I love him.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I love him.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Every time I watch a video of Josh Allen and
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: you see more of Josh Allen's personality. Yes. It's hard
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: not to fall in love with him. I know Mikey
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: does the whole thing. Oh, Josh Allen, you're too big
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: to flop. Pick a side, Josh Allen. And then you
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: see a video of Josh Allen going to the children's
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: hospitals in Buffalo and spending all his off time being
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: this icon in the Buffalo community. It's like, I want
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: to see this guy succeed.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you see it all because he wants you to
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: see all that stuff.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Do it when no one's watching, Josh Allen.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you're suggesting I did that with J.J. Watt for years.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, but you're suggesting he
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't do it when nobody's watching.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: Why would you see it? It would defeat the purpose.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: It's also a thing with Josh Allen. Like, if you
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: just lined up all 32 quarterbacks and you didn't know
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: they were NFL quarterbacks and you just said, who do
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: I want to hang out with the most?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I would sprint to him.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: We've seen it in Tahoe.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Like, Josh Allen is about as normal a dude as
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: you could get. And then it's like, oh, wait, this
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: guy's like an MVP caliber quarterback.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: In the best sport that America has to offer.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You'll realize just how cool Josh Allen is when you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: go to Lake Tahoe and you have an interaction with
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and five seconds later you interact with Josh Allen.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And then you go back to Rodgers and you're like, man,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I'm still thinking about that Josh Allen interaction.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I miss the Bills quarterback.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: My last game of the week for the Tears, an
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: official passing of the torch game.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Ooh.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Wow, wow, wow.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: So I'll give you guys a hint. This is positionally,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: like an individual position.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, I got you.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: We're passing the torch.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Passing of the torch. Wow. So say that again.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: This is an official passing of the torch game.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: It's positionally. Think who has been the best at their
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: position maybe the past decade, and then who's coming for
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: that title now.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You have a guess here, Mike?
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I'm a little stumped.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Hold on. Give me a second.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Passing of the torch.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I'll give you guys a hint. Ricardo has already said it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: What?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he got it almost immediately.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Ricky Mantle. Wow.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And he doesn't have a schedule in front of him,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: which is even more impressive.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: So a passing of the torch game. But within, it's odd. Mikey,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm confused. I don't understand who's passing
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: a torch. I mean.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: You guys want the answer?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Give me the position.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Running back.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So who's been the best? Derrick Henry.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: You're telling me Derrick Henry is passing it? to vajon robinson.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It's an official it's an official passing of the torch
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: where derrick henry has run the nfl for a decade
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: every week we watch derrick henry it's like when is
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: this guy gonna slow down oh he just has three
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: touchdowns and 150 yards every game yes i i said
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: i think two years ago i was talking to 10
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: day tony and i was like after a week one
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: game that derrick henry had like 20 yards i was
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like oh man derrick henry it's cooked And then, like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the next, like, seven weeks in a row, he rushed for, like,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: over 120 yards every game. And I was like, man,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: this take is aging like milk left out. But I
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: think after Sunday Night Football, we put those conversations to bed.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: It's Bijan Robinson's position until, you know, some generational running
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: back in 15 years matches up against Bijan. And then we, again,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: pass the torch.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: They're his tears, Mikey. I feel like that torch has
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: already been passed. I feel like everyone recognizes Bijan as
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the best running.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: This is an official. That was an unofficial. I understand
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the confusion.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: But when you say it, it's official. I got it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Jameer Gibbs would like a word. Let's just get that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Jameer Gibbs would like a word. And the other thing is...
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Derek Henry is not passing that torch to anybody just yet.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: He still believes, and he's still actually playing well enough
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: to say, it's still my torch. You're going to have
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: to come take it from me. I'm not passing it
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: to you. You're going to have to come take it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And who would have the stones to go take a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: torch from Derek Henry?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Nobody.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: If there's anybody who's going to have the stones to
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: take that torch... It would be Bijan. I think it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Bijan Robinson. He's going to have to take it from him.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I think by the fourth or fifth carry of the game,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: he's going to... Score a touchdown, a big touchdown like
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: he did on Monday Night Football against New Orleans.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: And run around with a torch.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: He's not even going to break stride when he scores.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: His celebration is going to be going to that Ravens
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: sideline and taking that torch from Derrick Henry.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, because you have Derrick Henry having a torch on
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the sideline.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: On the sideline.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: That would be.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: So much better if sports actually had that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: That would be awesome. It would be great. So Bichon
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: walks around with a torch. Does he run with a torch?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Had the torch for the rest of the game?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: If you guys remember, the last torch game that we
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: would have had was the World Cup final, Messi versus
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Laminia Mall. When Laminia Mall in Spain beat Argentina, Laminia
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Mall got the torch from Messi.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Right. Okay.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So you have Bijan scoring a touchdown, running to the Ravens' sideline,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: grabbing Derrick Henry's torch, taking it to his sideline.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: All right. That makes it official.
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Before we get to the polls here, Atstugat790 on X.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Let's talk some baseball here. How are you guys feeling,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: by the way, now that you had some time to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: process the Yankees, them losing the entire season?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Same way? Same way, huh? Worse.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: No, for me, I spent the time reflecting, and I
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: was like, you know what? Maybe I was a little emotional.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe I came out a little too hard. Maybe I
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: was just in my feelings. And now that I've thought
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: about it, I was 100% right. They need to fire everybody.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you took the time to self-reflect and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: come back with the same result.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: That is a good job by you. Stu, what a.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Crazy time it is that we're living in right now
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: where the Yankee season ends and New York sports fans
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: now turn to the Knicks and be like, here comes
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: our saving grace.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: The New York Knicks basketball, one of the best franchises
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: in the organization, in the association right now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, a market that's relied on baseball for so long,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and specifically Yankee baseball for so long, can now turn
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: its attention to the greatest thing in that city, which
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: is Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: We've never had that before.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Imagine telling somebody in 2005, during the prime of Derek
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Jeter and A-Rod, hey, 20 years from now, The Yankees
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: are going to be the laughingstock of the MLB.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: And the Knicks that you're watching with Eddie Curry and
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Jared Jeffries, that's going to be the pillar franchise in
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the NBA.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Mikey, I have noticed it as a Jet fan, having
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the Knicks, knowing I can go to the Knicks and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: go there very soon.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: It's a crutch.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not as mad at the Jets as I normally am.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I have to be honest with you. Must be nice.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: What did you guys make of White Sox Guardians last night?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: They go back to Cleveland now for game five. I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: wanted Chicago to win that at home. I want the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: White Sox to win. I want it to be a
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: White Sox-Dodger World Series. The White Sox had two leads
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: in that game, probably should have won that game, and
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: now we're headed back, and the series just keeps starting.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Just keeps starting.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Because the road team is winning every single game, and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: now they go back to Cleveland, the White Sox home
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: away from home, I guess, for a big game five here.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Home teams 0-4 in this series, and the biggest difference
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: the past two games that Cleveland's been able to get,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: their offense has come to life. They're scoring... 18 runs
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the past two games. Stu, I think the biggest turning
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: point for this Cleveland Guardians team, Jose Ramirez. When Jose
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Ramirez is going, he is one of the most underrated
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: players in baseball this generation because... If I ask you
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: guys to name the best players from this past decade,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: you're going to go to Aaron Judge, Shohei Otani, like
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: the Mike Trouts, the Mookie Betts, Juan Soto. Jose Ramirez
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: is like in that tier of player, but just because
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the Guardians don't really have the same level of postseason success,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: he doesn't get mentioned in those same conversations.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Mikey, you agree with that? He's a great player. There's
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: no doubt about it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: But playing in Cleveland doesn't help his cause. If he
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: played in New York, we would all recognize him as
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a top 10 player.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Of course. And I also think that part of it
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: is if he doesn't go, they don't win.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: So it's, it's, it's solely reliant on him and you know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: they haven't won enough. I know they're in the ALDS,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: but they haven't like, gotten a world series where you'd
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: be like oh yeah he got that signature moment.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: He's a first ballot hall of famer right yes yes
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: yes yes easily.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Uh stew i i think it's interesting with this series
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: over the last two games you can make the argument
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: that the the white socks have lost and the guardians
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: haven't won because this stat from optistats over the last
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: two games the white sock hitters have struck out 31
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: times and white sock pitchers have issued 17 walks No
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: other MLB team in the modern era has had that
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: many strikeouts at the plate and that many walks on
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: the mound over a two-game span, regular season or postseason.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Guardians' raise is not what Major League Baseball wanted.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Ever.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Not this year, not next year, not 20 years ago,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and not 30 years from now. They will never want
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: an ALCS that is Tampa and Cleveland for the right
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to go to the World Series. The Dodgers better get there.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: or they're in for the lowest rated World Series in
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the history of Major League Baseball.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: And to further that point, I think MLB, like the owners,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: want the Dodgers to win because they need to strengthen
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: their argument when it comes to the labor talks and
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: the lockout. The players are crushing them right now. The
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: players are like, we can't have these small market teams win.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: because the the more the dodgers win the more it's
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: going to force the public perception to be like we
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: need a salary cap to stop this the fact that
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: you look at the american league and it's all the
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: small market teams i know chicago is a big market
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: but chicago payroll wise operates as a pretty small team
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: like they've lost a hundred plus games and what like
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: three of the past five seasons. Chicago's been a loser
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: franchise for the past five years.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: They've been awful, yes.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: And it feels like this is going against the players
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: who are saying, we don't need a salary cap because
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: you need the Dodgers to win.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Well, no.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Well, help me out here because you have teams, small
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: market teams, guardians, Rays, Brewers, teams that won't go out
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and trade for Scooble.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Doesn't that benefit the players' case? It doesn't matter. There's
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: no cap now.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, they're spending all this money,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and only one of those teams has made it to
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the Final Four.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're arguing the same thing, saying that
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers winning means that we need a salary cap.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: The other teams winning means we don't.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: So I understand what you're saying, but if three of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the four teams are Milwaukee-based The Rays and the Guardians.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Aren't the players winning right there?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: The players are winning.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: The teams are losing.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yes.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I just want to see Dodgers-White Sox just because it'd
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: be fun and funny. And it would get good ratings.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And I would like to see the team who was
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the worst in Major League Baseball a year ago. It's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a crazy turnaround. Beat this juggernaut that is the Dodgers,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: which would also help the players, by the way.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a crazy turnaround. And on the topic of
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the bargaining sessions for the MLB, this report came from
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Jeff Passan, and this has something that I think you
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: guys would love.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So Major League Baseball has proposed cutting the regular season
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: schedule from 162 games to 154 games. Oh, Jesus. That's
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: not what I think you guys would love. Less baseball.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: But also, part of the proposal... Mm-hmm. Higher seeds in
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: playoffs get to choose their opponents.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: That I like. In either league?
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: No, no. So still in the American League, you would assume.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: But it would be like the New York Yankees are
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the number one seed in the playoffs. And it's like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: who do the Yankees want to play? What a surprise.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: The Minnesota Twins.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Every year. Not the Rays. Not the Rays.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Can the Yankees just win not to play the Rays?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: So who is the one seed in each league this year?
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: The Tampa Bay Rays. I think the Tampa Bay Rays
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: still pick the Yankees.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Get out of here.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: If they had their choice. Come on, Mikey.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: The Tampa Bay Rays look at the Yankees and say,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: we got this team in our back pocket right now.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Knowing that the Yankees have to come to Tropicana, that
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: house of horrors, they're picking the Yankees every time.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: And then? Yeah. Not the Red Sox? I mean, who
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: were limping into the playoffs?
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Well, they didn't make it to the Divisional Series.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. Okay. So once we get to the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Divisional round. Okay, I got it. Not the White Sox?
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's the Yankees. What were you going
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: to say, Mike?
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I said, and then just the mind game of the Rays,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: not only being the better team, but going, we want you.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Come on over. The Yankees would be like, oh, no.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: The Yankees would cower. But I think there is another
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: element to that where it's almost a dangerous game. Like,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: say if you're, let's use the Houston Astros in this example.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And the Houston Astros finished as a 500 baseball team.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: If the Tampa Bay Rays are like, Houston Astros, we
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: want to play you. That's almost giving the Houston Astros, like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: extra bulletin board material, even though they are the lesser team. Like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: a team thinks you're so bad that they want to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: face you.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, you want some of this?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yankees would cower the second they got picked by any team.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I think a team like the Astros or any other
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: team in baseball would kind of use that as motivation.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: What do you mean the Yanks would cower? Like, someone
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: would choose the Yanks and what would happen? I mean.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Aaron Boone would pee down his leg, probably.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And Judge would pull a hammy? Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Or an injury or something.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Is this a televised event? It should be a televised event.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: If it's not a televised event, we.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Don't want it. I'd be more interested in watching this
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: than watching baseball.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: It's fair.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I think it would draw better than the World Series.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Put it on the polls. That's a cool rule. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, baseball needs to start thinking differently, and they
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: have in years past, and it's helped with ratings, and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: it's helped drive their product.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: So they need to continue to think like that. The
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: way me and Billy Gilf, I think. I couldn't speak.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like MLB just needs, like, the wacky
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: guys in the league office. Like, you have a bunch
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: of suits.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Billy.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And then, yes, you just walk down the hallway and
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, who's that in the ball pit in
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: their office? And it's like, oh, it's Billy Gill. Here
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: he comes to save baseball.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, a man who once proposed to Rob Manfred on
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: air on ESPN Radio that we have ponds in the outfield.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: There used to be a hill in Houston Astros.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine, Mikey, running in the outfield and all
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you fall into a pond?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I mean....
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Diving diving into the pond that's awesome i love.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: It mikey i feel like with that houston astros field
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: it's almost like the mandela effect where some days i'm
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: just sitting and watching houston astros i'm like did i
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: just imagine that they used to have a hill in
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: their house no there.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Used to be a hill in center field yes they
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: used to i don't i don't remember if it was
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the astros you're probably right no there was absolutely.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: A hill no they took it away i think an
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: opposing player tripped i mean it's super dangerous yeah yeah
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: A hill in the outfield is like something that we
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: would have had in like 1940, not like 2000. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: love that we're not okay with that, but I fully
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: endorse Billy Gill putting ponds in the outfield.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just as crazy an idea.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Nobody gets hurt falling in a pond.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the polls here to wrap
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: up the week here. It's been a great week, a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: fun week. At Stugatz790 on X, give me the music, please.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: We're starting off hot today.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Is Kirk Cousins a Hall of Famer? Stu Yachts made
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: the argument that he was. This was the most voted
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: on poll this week, I'm pretty sure.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a resounding no, right?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, 80% of the audience said no. Kirk Cousins, not
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Look at the numbers, people.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: The next take from that same game, I believe this
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: was Mikey's opinion. Was that a statement loss for the Raiders?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: He said he was as impressed with the Raiders in
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that loss as he has been with any win they've
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: had this year.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with it, by the way. What were
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the results?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: 80.7% of the audience said yes.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Statement loss.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Statement loss.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: All right. Big win for you.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: This is one that came back. Statement win. This one
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: came back to bite us. Is it un-American to bet
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: against the New Orleans Saints tonight in the Monday night
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: football game against the Falcons? I think the Saints lost
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: by what? 55?
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: They got absolutely run off the field.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, and if you did it, you're not American.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: But you're broke.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I took the Falcons.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: 57.5% of the audience said yes. Another big one for Mikey.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Do you ever need a game in the NFC South?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Bucs are back.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: They're right in it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: They're right in it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: They are. One and four.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: You're never out of it in the NFC South.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: You might be if Atlanta gets hot. Or the Panthers.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Or the Panthers, yes.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Or the Saints. Or the Bucs.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Look at the NFC South growing up right in front.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Of our eyes. 74.2% of the audience said, no, you
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: never need a game in the NFC South, and Todd
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Bowles proves that every year.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: 35 and 37, I think. Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: He stinks.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: If Wake Forest was in the SEC, would Miami be
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: the number one team in the country right now?
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Paul Feinbaum would be parading around how good Gio Lopez
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: looks for the Demon Deacons.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: The Deacs.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: That team is tough. They're scrappy.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Mikey told me after I put a bet on it.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: He told me to stop betting against the Deacs.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I did. I took the Deacs last week. We won.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Mikey.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I wish you would have told me two weeks ago
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: before I put them in my Studio Gots picks, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: they lost.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Big game for the Deacs this week at NC State.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: It's a noon kickoff.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, at NC State. You hate that coach, NC State's coach.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Dave Dorn, yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, taking the Deacs. Wow. Listen to Mikey.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: This is a big one for Trey Wingo. Should we
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: call the Detroit Lions the E-Troit Lions because they have
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: no D?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: He was so proud of himself. And I loved it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: My favorite moment from Trey Wingo was when he was
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: looking for that stat for like three minutes. And I
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: had it on my computer the entire time.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Because you just wanted to hear him fumble around?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: No, I was saying in the background, like you hear
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: me in the background going like, Trey, I have the stat.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: And he goes, it's right here. Hold on a second.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I have the stat, Trey.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Just this.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Just watching a man drown like it's a pond in
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: center field.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think Trey minds.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: No, he's a pro.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: He really is.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pro's pro.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: He does have to talk through it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: 90.9% of the audience said yes. Let's rename them the
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: E-Troit Lions.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: All right, good. Wow, overwhelming.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Cooper Rush can never play another snap again in the NFL.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, 100%.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Surprisingly not higher.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: 79.4% of the audience said yes. said yes, that he
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: should never play another snap.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: So 21% of the audience is okay if he takes
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: a snap for their team?
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you cannot be okay. If right now you got
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: a notification, the Jets signed Cooper Rush or the Jets
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: trade for Cooper Rush, your guys' hearts would drop.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Unless you were trying to go... the opposite way. Maybe
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: that's the argument for why you would start Cooper Rush.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Right, to lose.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: To lose, yes. This is a big one for me.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Alright.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Does an 8 to 10 a.m. repair window really just
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: mean 9.58 a.m.? 100%. That's what it means.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Frickin' Salvador from AT & T. I love Salvador in
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: AT & T, but, man.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: We love AT & T.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: He threw a wrench into my week.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: We love Salvador.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: 90.4% of the audience said yes. That's what the 8
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: to 10 a.m. repair window means.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: He threw a wrench into your week. Go ahead.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: If a baseball could hit off a catwalk, what the
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: hell are we even doing?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Man, one of these has to come back 100%. You know?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: We're getting closer. 90.7% of the audience said yes. Are
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Yankee fans rooting for a lockout?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I am. You voted yes?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I voted yes.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Mikey, you voted yes?
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Three times on three different accounts. Really?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all my burner accounts I voted yes.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You're really committed to this lockout, huh?
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Adnan was upset that I said I was rooting for
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: the lockout. He texted me. He said, hey, love your passion.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: But I need to keep collecting checks, so I'm going
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: to root against the lockout. And I said, that's a
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: fair point, Adnan.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: He texted me that he loved Old Schmidt. Instead of
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Paul Goldschmidt. Anyway, go ahead.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Has Yankee Stadium become the place for other teams to celebrate?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: It sure has.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Stu, you mentioned 100%. This is the closest, actually, we've gotten. 96.1%
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: of the audience said that's where you go if you
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: want to throw a party if you're another.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: Team right now.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: The Rays would choose them and give them home field.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Two more poll questions. Is Jalen Daniels winning the chip
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: on Baker Mayfield's shoulder that he's been missing since signing
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: his contract extension?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I think I almost had a stroke when I was
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: reading that, if you guys noticed.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I almost had one about 12 minutes ago, if you
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: guys remember.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, my vision got very, very fuzzy
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: there for a second that I got a little worried.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: It happens.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: 89.7% of the audience said, yes, Baker Mayfield, the chip
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: is back on his shoulder.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: It's Jalen Daniels on his shoulder.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Small.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: It's confusing. Jalen Daniels, Jaden Daniels. We need to do
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: something there. I don't know what.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: It's Jaden and Jalen.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Baker comes back and then you never hear from Jalen again.
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's not true. Jets next year, three years, 120 million.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Last poll of the week. Cowboys defensive coordinator. Pack your bags.
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And shoddy perhaps. I mean.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Shoddy's got one foot out the door. 94.9% of the
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: audience said defensive coordinator, bags are packed. Stu, those are
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the polls.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I'll put this on the poll for next week. Does
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Shoddy have one foot out the door?