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- 0:11Speaker 1: If anyone is sort of within ear short of the
- 0:13Speaker 1: door and does happen to see Brian, can you remind
- 0:15Speaker 1: him as the UK column event on today and that
- 0:19Speaker 1: we might need him. Okay, So what we'll do because
- 0:24Speaker 1: as I said, we were a bit pushed for time
- 0:27Speaker 1: with Brian and Alex. Obviously Brian's eliminated himself from the
- 0:30Speaker 1: race at this stage. But we will start with a
- 0:34Speaker 1: question for Alex, and I think it is worth coming
- 0:37Speaker 1: back to, and the question is why would Alex not
- 0:40Speaker 1: work for King Charles?
- 0:44Speaker 2: Because it was clear even then that he wouldn't take
- 0:47Speaker 2: his oath. Seriously, you've got the distinguished form from substance.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I remember my mum lived long enough to see the coronation.
- 0:57Speaker 2: She knew it wasn't going to be like the Last Rain,
- 0:59Speaker 2: but she was, you know, like many of her generation,
- 1:02Speaker 2: too much persuaded by the sincere face that he pulled
- 1:07Speaker 2: and the classic wording he gave, which was better than
- 1:10Speaker 2: the wording that Prince Philip made Queen Elizabeth swear. You know,
- 1:14Speaker 2: there was the full wording about laws and customs, but
- 1:17Speaker 2: it was clear from how he was brought up and
- 1:19Speaker 2: the opinions he'd express publicly and privately that he didn't
- 1:22Speaker 2: regard his job as obeying the people and following their customs.
- 1:26Speaker 2: So in as simple as that, And it was also
- 1:28Speaker 2: it's important to throw down red lines for yourself, isn't it.
- 1:31Speaker 2: It's important to say this, you know, psychologically, for yourself
- 1:34Speaker 2: and for the vetting officer or whatever else you face
- 1:37Speaker 2: in life. There are certain bridges I won't cross, and
- 1:40Speaker 2: you know, in my experience that doesn't lead to people
- 1:42Speaker 2: saying we won't work with you, at least to them
- 1:44Speaker 2: respecting you more. Actually, thank.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Alex, thank you very much. Now there's one which I
- 1:55Speaker 1: can on to quite briefly, which is what does the
- 1:57Speaker 1: T shirt slogan? I wasn't the only one listening mean,
- 2:01Speaker 1: and I do apologize for not spelling it out, But
- 2:09Speaker 1: there's a there's a big building down the road that's
- 2:11Speaker 1: sort of shaped a bit like this, and it's just
- 2:14Speaker 1: possible that they might be tuned into what's going on today.
- 2:18Speaker 1: So that's what that meant.
- 2:19Speaker 3: But thank you, thank.
- 2:20Speaker 1: You very much for asking, because that will boost sales
- 2:22Speaker 1: five hundredfold. So that's that's terrific. Now let's see, Okay
- 2:29Speaker 1: to the whole panel. Given our judicial system only functions
- 2:34Speaker 1: to support the Deep States objectives. What steps can we
- 2:38Speaker 1: take to set up a people's judicial system? That is
- 2:43Speaker 1: a very good question, I think. But I'm unsure as
- 2:47Speaker 1: to who should lead on because we've just heard from
- 2:49Speaker 1: alex But I but I okay, like there we go.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Come on, somebody's got to be up for it. I think, yeah,
- 3:00Speaker 1: come on, Alexis, we have it.
- 3:01Speaker 2: It's the jury in a word. You know, you can
- 3:03Speaker 2: go into a lot more detail than that. And I
- 3:04Speaker 2: don't apologize for going on about jurists. They're being attacked
- 3:07Speaker 2: for an obvious reason.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Right.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Catherine Gunn knew in her legal team that the precedent
- 3:14Speaker 2: that had been set was Clive Ponting. I remember the
- 3:17Speaker 2: General General Belgrano affair, and that's why the National Security
- 3:21Speaker 2: Act removed the public interest defense. Somebody asked me about
- 3:24Speaker 2: that at the end of lunch break. You can claim
- 3:26Speaker 2: anything in statute. You can say henceforth, we are a tyranny.
- 3:30Speaker 2: You know, but the only people who will ever to
- 3:33Speaker 2: use the technical term casseate, negate, overturn, defy, nullify. You
- 3:37Speaker 2: can use all of these terms. The only people who'll
- 3:39Speaker 2: ever do that is the people. I have an American
- 3:43Speaker 2: standing on my right, they still have the English invention
- 3:45Speaker 2: of the grand jury. We got rid of it allegedly
- 3:49Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties. Perhaps say something about grand juries.
- 3:58Speaker 5: I'll say something about grand juries, because we've been talking
- 4:01Speaker 5: a lot in the last lot of weeks about what
- 4:06Speaker 5: are they called people's assemblies and these kinds of things.
- 4:09Speaker 5: And on the face of it, for many people, these
- 4:12Speaker 5: these types of citizens assemblies seem like grand juries. But
- 4:16Speaker 5: there's a significant difference, and that is that the grand
- 4:18Speaker 5: juries are set up with the on on the basis
- 4:21Speaker 5: that they have investigatory parts themselves. They are responsible for
- 4:26Speaker 5: running their own investigations and deciding who they're who the
- 4:29Speaker 5: experts are that they're going to speak to, or where
- 4:31Speaker 5: they're going to gather the reverence evidence from or whatnot,
- 4:33Speaker 5: whereas citizens assemblies tend to be run by vested interests
- 4:38Speaker 5: who provide the experts to the people that are taking
- 4:42Speaker 5: part in what, on the face of it seems like
- 4:44Speaker 5: a grand jury. And there's there's the fundamental differences that
- 4:48Speaker 5: they choose who the experts are, and that makes it
- 4:52Speaker 5: totally devalues the whole exercise. It makes it basically null
- 4:56Speaker 5: and void. And you know, we saw this, Brian and
- 5:00Speaker 5: I saw this, and when was Occupy Band twenty eleven,
- 5:04Speaker 5: twenty twelve, something like that at Saint Paul's and we
- 5:08Speaker 5: saw the types that we saw people moving into the
- 5:11Speaker 5: occupy movement and using Delphi technique to try to steer
- 5:18Speaker 5: the outcome of what we're effectively embryonic people's assemblies at
- 5:21Speaker 5: that At that event, it was quite spectacular to watch
- 5:25Speaker 5: Common Purpose.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Common Purpose graduates doing that Climate Camp action.
- 5:33Speaker 3: It turned legitimate protest about the bankers into climate. Everything's climate.
- 5:39Speaker 4: Now, you know.
- 5:43Speaker 3: There you go.
- 5:46Speaker 6: Without without sounding to Robespiary and I do have a
- 5:52Speaker 6: lot of appreciation for the French style of direct democracy.
- 5:56Speaker 6: Sometimes I think we can learn something from from the.
- 5:58Speaker 1: French excellent right, rather unusual characteristics of not being too
- 6:11Speaker 1: much well or being rather backward and coming forward, which
- 6:14Speaker 1: is strange given how people are on screen, let's say.
- 6:20Speaker 1: But anyway, let's get into something I think should we
- 6:23Speaker 1: direct this at Ben to start with? You have delved
- 6:26Speaker 1: into the past, which has been insightful, and I understand
- 6:29Speaker 1: the relevance, but we'd like to hear more about what
- 6:31Speaker 1: the future holds, and in particular what power we hold. Ben,
- 6:36Speaker 1: would you like to start with anyone else who'd like
- 6:38Speaker 1: to jump in? But I think Ben might have what
- 6:40Speaker 1: power we all hold.
- 6:41Speaker 3: I mean it's routed in what we've just been talking about.
- 6:43Speaker 3: To be honest with you, it's can't hear me? Okay,
- 6:52Speaker 3: can you hear me?
- 6:52Speaker 4: Now?
- 6:53Speaker 3: I normally get told off of speaking too loudly into
- 6:56Speaker 3: the microphone, So trying to find the balance. We already
- 7:02Speaker 3: have the power. We have natural law, we have the
- 7:06Speaker 3: magna carta, we have jury trial, and these things are
- 7:10Speaker 3: being eroded consistently, and that's been going on for centuries.
- 7:16Speaker 3: And we need to get back to the fundamental principles
- 7:19Speaker 3: of what this country is about. And if we can
- 7:22Speaker 3: do that, we can go back to go forward, then
- 7:25Speaker 3: we've got a viable future. If we don't, then we're
- 7:28Speaker 3: in big trouble. And that's about us ultimately coming together
- 7:36Speaker 3: as a nation, re establishing basic fundamental human principles, and
- 7:45Speaker 3: rebuilding a society that works for everybody. You know, and
- 7:48Speaker 3: we have that capacity within us. You know, we can
- 7:52Speaker 3: everything about this nation. Everything that's good about this nation
- 7:55Speaker 3: was built by the people of this nation.
- 7:56Speaker 4: You know.
- 7:57Speaker 3: It sounds like a kind of trite thing to say,
- 7:58Speaker 3: but it's quite important. And the people that run the
- 8:01Speaker 3: country right now, and the people that run this global
- 8:04Speaker 3: system that they're trying to bring in to replace the
- 8:07Speaker 3: ancient system that i'm referring to, have never built anything
- 8:12Speaker 3: of note. Actually they've stolen everything. You know, it's a
- 8:15Speaker 3: scam what they're running. And the creatives, the creative force,
- 8:23Speaker 3: is the people of this country. And we've got to die.
- 8:25Speaker 3: We've got to reawaken to that fact. And we've got
- 8:28Speaker 3: to understand what it is that we need and want
- 8:32Speaker 3: in a successful, high quality, twenty first century civilization, which
- 8:38Speaker 3: is what I think we should be aspiring to be.
- 8:41Speaker 3: And we've got to act, and we've got to build,
- 8:44Speaker 3: and we've got to coordinate with each other in an
- 8:46Speaker 3: open and a transparent and an honest fashion. And you'd
- 8:52Speaker 3: be very surprised how quickly things can get better once
- 8:56Speaker 3: we start to do that. Actually, you know, I'm thinking
- 9:00Speaker 3: three to five years, not fifty, you know, but there's
- 9:04Speaker 3: quite a lot of fire that we're going to have
- 9:06Speaker 3: to deal with fairly immediately actually, you know, but the
- 9:11Speaker 3: next few years is not going to be easy. But
- 9:15Speaker 3: you know, trying to fight the existing system as we
- 9:19Speaker 3: do on a daily basis is important, but just as important,
- 9:24Speaker 3: and it will become increasingly important, I think, is what
- 9:27Speaker 3: we build into next. And again that's ultimately down to us.
- 9:31Speaker 7: So if I can ask the members, how many do
- 9:34Speaker 7: you remember going back into my lecture remote here, how
- 9:37Speaker 7: many do you remember my Christmas message from twenty twenty four?
- 9:42Speaker 7: Anyone remember it?
- 9:45Speaker 4: Good?
- 9:46Speaker 7: Okay? Everyone fails?
- 9:48Speaker 3: Go home? All right?
- 9:49Speaker 7: No, My message was to fight global act local. Remember
- 9:56Speaker 7: that now, So everyone finds some little thing that you
- 9:59Speaker 7: can do. It doesn't have to be massive. You don't
- 10:02Speaker 7: have to necessarily climb up the polls and take down
- 10:04Speaker 7: Yula's cameras. But whatever you can do locally in your community,
- 10:07Speaker 7: that is using your efforts and your benefits and your talents,
- 10:10Speaker 7: that's you're only were going to do this, and it's
- 10:12Speaker 7: strength and numbers the more of us that do it
- 10:14Speaker 7: in what little ways we can, whether it's anonymous, whether
- 10:16Speaker 7: you go on UK column news and tell the world
- 10:18Speaker 7: what you think, find something you can do yourselves, And
- 10:21Speaker 7: I guarantee once you do it and you identify it
- 10:24Speaker 7: and you follow through, you will feel better and you
- 10:25Speaker 7: won't be quite so depressed as you are by two
- 10:27Speaker 7: po every Monday.
- 10:36Speaker 4: I think would have a little bit.
- 10:39Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, absolutely what Diane said is completely true, and
- 10:43Speaker 8: I eco exactly what she says. I mean, I didn't
- 10:47Speaker 8: start my journey until the early two thousands when a
- 10:52Speaker 8: lady called Rosa Chori in the United States talked about
- 10:55Speaker 8: how the United Nations was bringing the agenda from global
- 10:59Speaker 8: to local and how it was actually put into via
- 11:03Speaker 8: the Into Governmental Panel and Climate Change into every town
- 11:07Speaker 8: council in our country to subvert our town councils into
- 11:13Speaker 8: this globalist agenda. And her advice always was sadly, she's
- 11:17Speaker 8: not with us anymore. It was really exactly what Diane said,
- 11:22Speaker 8: you have to really counteract this globally locally because globally
- 11:28Speaker 8: is it's a big agenda, and they brought it in
- 11:31Speaker 8: to subvert all our town councils very successfully. And the
- 11:35Speaker 8: only way we can counteract it is in our locality
- 11:39Speaker 8: and to be able to set up our own groups
- 11:41Speaker 8: to challenge our counsels and challenge and then a lot
- 11:45Speaker 8: of the councils, my counsel are finally waking up. They
- 11:47Speaker 8: were Green XR Council, they are now waking up, so
- 11:52Speaker 8: it can be done just an MPs when we did
- 11:58Speaker 8: a thing of talk in what was the played Sheddington
- 12:02Speaker 8: Sheddington a few weeks ago, and there were MP's there
- 12:05Speaker 8: who were beginning to wake up. We need to really
- 12:08Speaker 8: there's good people doing bad things and they're not they're
- 12:11Speaker 8: not ultimately bad, but they don't understand. And it's our job.
- 12:16Speaker 8: We know, it's our job to help spread the word
- 12:19Speaker 8: and wake them up, particularly people in power like MPs.
- 12:23Speaker 4: Thank you excellent.
- 12:30Speaker 1: We're just going to cross the Atlantic for a bit
- 12:32Speaker 1: and I think Patrick, perhaps you can start on this.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Can you tell us your sense of r f K
- 12:39Speaker 1: and whether we consider whether we consider there is any
- 12:46Speaker 1: any sort of breakthrough or whether it's pure compromise. We
- 12:51Speaker 1: haven't got that long, Patrick.
- 12:52Speaker 6: So I would have I would have supported him, I
- 13:08Speaker 6: really would have.
- 13:09Speaker 4: I was there.
- 13:10Speaker 6: I was just on the edge. I was on the
- 13:12Speaker 6: cusp of throwing my support behind. At the time, he
- 13:16Speaker 6: was a Democrat, so I thought, Okay, this is gonna
- 13:20Speaker 6: be a little bit tricky, but I'm ready to do
- 13:22Speaker 6: it because I liked what he was saying about all
- 13:24Speaker 6: this anti war message and Ukraine and this and that,
- 13:30Speaker 6: and then he kind of took a very very strange turn.
- 13:34Speaker 6: And then I started seeing him with America's Rabbi Schmooley
- 13:40Speaker 6: doing photo photo shoots, photo bombing, and all of a sudden,
- 13:44Speaker 6: he just got very strange. And then you started hearing oh,
- 13:48Speaker 6: he was on Epstein's plane twice and and everything starting
- 13:51Speaker 6: falling apart. But I still thought, Okay, I'm not going
- 13:54Speaker 6: to support him, and here he's being shortlisted for a
- 13:57Speaker 6: cabinet position HHS. It's a harmless position. I mean, can
- 14:01Speaker 6: anybody name an HSS secretary before RFK Junior?
- 14:05Speaker 4: Anyone hands.
- 14:07Speaker 6: That's where you want to send people when you want
- 14:09Speaker 6: their political careers to die, You send them to the
- 14:12Speaker 6: head of a government agency, which is what Trump has
- 14:15Speaker 6: done very strategically. He's eliminated all potential challengers for twenty
- 14:20Speaker 6: twenty eight, stuffed them into dead end cabinet positions where
- 14:23Speaker 6: they'll be mired and scandal. That said, I really was
- 14:27Speaker 6: disappointed when he got in front of the Senate confirmation
- 14:31Speaker 6: hearings and they said, what do you think about the
- 14:33Speaker 6: childhood vaccine schedule?
- 14:35Speaker 4: And I was like, this is your moment.
- 14:37Speaker 6: You know, this is actually what you've been fighting at
- 14:40Speaker 6: Children's Health Defense for the last seven years, and of
- 14:43Speaker 6: course he folded like a cheap deck chair in a
- 14:50Speaker 6: three star hotel in Marbella or something like that.
- 14:53Speaker 4: It was very bad.
- 14:54Speaker 6: And then I thought to myself, Okay, so you're not
- 14:56Speaker 6: going to defend that. But wait a minute, she's about
- 14:58Speaker 6: to ask you about bird flu vaccine. I thought, Okay,
- 15:01Speaker 6: this is his chance. He can really make amends here.
- 15:04Speaker 6: And of course she challenged him directly. And this is
- 15:07Speaker 6: a guy who said, why do we need a vaccine?
- 15:09Speaker 6: Said this three years earlier, why do we need a
- 15:11Speaker 6: vaccine for something that doesn't exist?
- 15:14Speaker 4: And he said, I support a bird flu vaccine. And
- 15:17Speaker 4: then I was just like no, please. So that was it.
- 15:20Speaker 6: That's I really think. And everyone says, oh, he just
- 15:24Speaker 6: needs to get in. I love this cope. Oh we
- 15:27Speaker 6: just need to get in say the right things, and
- 15:29Speaker 6: you can change it from the inside. Let me tell
- 15:32Speaker 6: you something, if you studied Washington long enough, you'll know
- 15:36Speaker 6: that that swamp will mold you.
- 15:38Speaker 4: You don't mold the swamp.
- 15:39Speaker 6: And he either come in there all guns blazing, start
- 15:42Speaker 6: shooting and taking names, and then go out in a
- 15:45Speaker 6: blaze of glory, and that then you become a change agent.
- 15:48Speaker 6: You become a real influencer at that point, or you
- 15:51Speaker 6: go in and try to make the system happy, and
- 15:54Speaker 6: the system will then mold you.
- 15:56Speaker 4: And that's a test.
- 15:57Speaker 6: When you go in front of the Congress, they're testing
- 15:59Speaker 6: you to see if you will comply. They'll see if
- 16:02Speaker 6: you comply. And he complied, so he got the job.
- 16:05Speaker 6: If he pushed back on any of those points, he
- 16:07Speaker 6: probably he might have got destroyed in the press. It
- 16:10Speaker 6: might have been a disaster. So that's the test, actually,
- 16:14Speaker 6: and that's a bit of an initiation into that world,
- 16:19Speaker 6: is how how much you will comply or not. And
- 16:22Speaker 6: so he didn't. In my opinion, he did more on
- 16:25Speaker 6: the outside than he'll ever do on the inside. That's
- 16:27Speaker 6: just my personal opinion. I hope I'm wrong.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Good, good question. Patrick's obviously undecided. No, neither Brian is
- 16:47Speaker 1: with us. Happily this for him. I think, how do
- 16:51Speaker 1: you keep family as the biggest influence on children's values
- 16:56Speaker 1: given the concerted and multiple assaults on family bonds.
- 17:03Speaker 9: That's a pretty easy question, isn't it, Because it requires
- 17:05Speaker 9: mums and dads to do their job. And I'll just say,
- 17:15Speaker 9: and I see this from the life experience of a
- 17:20Speaker 9: father excuse me grandfather as well. But basically, looking back,
- 17:27Speaker 9: you know, my children were educated via the school system,
- 17:30Speaker 9: and there were some poor things emerged later on that
- 17:34Speaker 9: were I was not very happy with. Would I school
- 17:39Speaker 9: educate my children again? No, So I have huge respect
- 17:48Speaker 9: for the families that have decided that, you know, mum
- 17:51Speaker 9: and dad are going to educate their children. I think
- 17:54Speaker 9: this is a very proper and brave statement. And this,
- 17:59Speaker 9: to me is where the change starts. Because schooling, as
- 18:03Speaker 9: in a school of fish, is all about taking the
- 18:05Speaker 9: minds of young children and instilling in them the views
- 18:09Speaker 9: and values not of the family, but of the state.
- 18:12Speaker 9: And it's just obvious that this is happening at the moment,
- 18:16Speaker 9: and I've got to be careful, you know what to say,
- 18:19Speaker 9: because you talk families, it starts getting personal work. But
- 18:22Speaker 9: I'll say within my wider family unit, I've heard people
- 18:25Speaker 9: sort of just casually talking, well, you know what happens
- 18:28Speaker 9: if little Joey wants to be a girl. So this
- 18:32Speaker 9: agenda is now seek right into the hearts of families.
- 18:36Speaker 9: And if you get parents who don't have the strength
- 18:40Speaker 9: of character to stand up and say no, this filth
- 18:44Speaker 9: is not coming into my family. Then you're losing. So
- 18:48Speaker 9: it requires parents to stand up and be counted. And
- 18:51Speaker 9: the other thing I'd like to say, and maybe there'll
- 18:53Speaker 9: be a bit of pushback in the room, is it's
- 18:55Speaker 9: certainly time for fathers to stand up to be counted,
- 19:04Speaker 9: because you know, some of the other communities in UK,
- 19:10Speaker 9: when you talk to them, they find it astonishing that
- 19:14Speaker 9: somebody'd come along and grab your children and you wouldn't
- 19:17Speaker 9: fight for those children. I mean fight, but here everybody's
- 19:22Speaker 9: become a pussy basically in this area, so I'm looking
- 19:27Speaker 9: at the dads. I've run a series for a while
- 19:30Speaker 9: called Gutsy Women, and I felt obliged to do that
- 19:34Speaker 9: because a lot of the people coming to speak to
- 19:36Speaker 9: me about the loss of children to the state were women,
- 19:40Speaker 9: and they were very gutsy women, and some of the
- 19:42Speaker 9: things that they'd been through and done, I was amazed.
- 19:45Speaker 9: And then you start to say, well, okay, where are
- 19:47Speaker 9: the blokes And the reality is that a lot of
- 19:51Speaker 9: blokes have been emasculated by the reframing agenda of the state,
- 19:59Speaker 9: and you've got to we've got to what's the word,
- 20:02Speaker 9: get the balls back all right, because this this lot
- 20:07Speaker 9: of running all over us in the moment. And the
- 20:09Speaker 9: main reason is because people are not saying no in
- 20:12Speaker 9: the first instance, no not in my name, and then
- 20:15Speaker 9: they're not standing up in a measured You've got to
- 20:19Speaker 9: be measured because if you go in too hard, of course,
- 20:22Speaker 9: the police, you know, they just need that as the excuse.
- 20:25Speaker 9: So you've got to be calculating what you do. But
- 20:27Speaker 9: you can still be very forceful by saying no, it's
- 20:32Speaker 9: not happening. And so we've got to change the family unit.
- 20:36Speaker 9: But the you know, we want the future, we've got
- 20:39Speaker 9: to get controlled of the children. It's really simple.
- 20:43Speaker 5: What's the question again?
- 20:48Speaker 9: That is.
- 20:50Speaker 1: The question specifically was how do you keep family as
- 20:54Speaker 1: the biggest influence on children's values?
- 20:57Speaker 4: Right?
- 20:57Speaker 5: Given the concerned, don't put a phone in their hands
- 21:00Speaker 5: the age of.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Three or at any age, I might venture Mike, actually
- 21:13Speaker 1: quick now that you've got microphone. How does UK column
- 21:16Speaker 1: see its future because of the implications of the Online
- 21:18Speaker 1: Safety Act slash offcompowers? Does it feel that its existence
- 21:22Speaker 1: is threatened? And how would you deal with that threat?
- 21:26Speaker 5: Is our existence threatened? Yes, as everybody that wants to
- 21:29Speaker 5: speak out that is not mainstream media threatened?
- 21:33Speaker 7: Yes?
- 21:34Speaker 5: What are we going to do about it. We're going
- 21:36Speaker 5: to start with YouTube and we're going to take them
- 21:38Speaker 5: to court.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Excellent, very very good question and of course a terrific answer,
- 21:57Speaker 1: something we will look forward to talking to you more about,
- 21:59Speaker 1: because that is a obviously a very very big, serious issue.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Now I'm just fiddling through you to a question for Alex.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Alex in your experience, how does dark Accult work through
- 22:10Speaker 1: agencies like GCHQ and intelligence to control the nation.
- 22:17Speaker 2: I got the shivers from some seniors. They're often the
- 22:21Speaker 2: number two of an agency or an organization, the direct
- 22:26Speaker 2: boss of Chris Steele, for example, when Steele was running
- 22:30Speaker 2: the Russia effort at six, shall I out of courtesy? Yeah,
- 22:35Speaker 2: I shall name him Nigel Inkster.
- 22:38Speaker 3: So often the.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Scott isn't it alas? But he was in the running
- 22:42Speaker 2: to be the next see the next head of six
- 22:44Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine, got passed over for the
- 22:47Speaker 2: job and went into the private sector and started lobbying
- 22:49Speaker 2: for wars to start. At a UK column event at
- 22:52Speaker 2: Telford a decade ago, a distressed squad, he came up
- 22:56Speaker 2: to Brian and me and said Inkster is a satan
- 22:59Speaker 2: it and his job is to start Wars and gave
- 23:02Speaker 2: me enough detail to persuade me that he was telling
- 23:04Speaker 2: the truth. That Inkster had brought a bunch of British
- 23:08Speaker 2: snipers no longer in regular service, to the front line
- 23:11Speaker 2: in South Ossetia to lure the Georgians into a war
- 23:14Speaker 2: with the Russians by starting the shooting for them. That
- 23:17Speaker 2: was President Sakashvili brought to power by the Rose Revolution
- 23:19Speaker 2: that I mentioned, which happened under our noses, and no
- 23:22Speaker 2: one in the agencies knew anything about it, nor did
- 23:23Speaker 2: the Americans know anything about it happening. It wasn't us
- 23:25Speaker 2: playing the Americans off against each other. It's just these
- 23:28Speaker 2: things happened. Yes, And there've been rumblings through the years
- 23:33Speaker 2: about you know what secret societies have senior spooks on
- 23:37Speaker 2: the list. You'll get them in every walk of life.
- 23:40Speaker 2: I think that the main purpose they have is to
- 23:43Speaker 2: funnel through information they have and then present it outside
- 23:47Speaker 2: the service and after their service to others. So I
- 23:49Speaker 2: mean during Trump one pat will recall, well, there were
- 23:52Speaker 2: a number of claims and I could not say they
- 23:54Speaker 2: were nonsense. That the contract, as I referred to in
- 23:57Speaker 2: the part of the first part of my speech, like Boo,
- 23:59Speaker 2: Adam Hamilton and many others who store nssay's data that
- 24:04Speaker 2: the claim is that's the real goodies. And it got
- 24:06Speaker 2: very heated during Trump one, with the Christeele Brigade saying
- 24:09Speaker 2: these people are a national security threat and the opponents saying, no, no,
- 24:12Speaker 2: it's just that we want to recapture American government from
- 24:15Speaker 2: a largely British clique, as they would see it. But
- 24:17Speaker 2: the claim there was that people with dark allegiances senior
- 24:22Speaker 2: officers in the intelligence agencies, and I repeat again, they
- 24:25Speaker 2: haven't sworn an oath unlike the American equivalent, were apparently
- 24:30Speaker 2: colluding but possible. You know, the contractors are darker, I think,
- 24:35Speaker 2: and the off sites also feel darker than the headquarters.
- 24:38Speaker 2: I went to Men with Hill once, and you know
- 24:40Speaker 2: that's a triple deception, that is because it's called RAF
- 24:44Speaker 2: Men with Hill. The Royal Air Force, as far as
- 24:46Speaker 2: I could see on my visit doesn't come into the
- 24:48Speaker 2: main operations building at all. It's just there for the
- 24:50Speaker 2: name the US Air Force. Likewise, NSA have more stay
- 24:55Speaker 2: than GCHQ there. And when you go into the main
- 24:57Speaker 2: operations room there's a daist at the end where the
- 24:59Speaker 2: actual sat lights are controlled from no government staff British
- 25:02Speaker 2: or American ascend that six inches. Only contractors are allowed
- 25:07Speaker 2: to press those buttons, right, So I'm not saying contractors
- 25:10Speaker 2: are Satanists. Don't run off with it there, But the
- 25:13Speaker 2: two are in my head in the same mental brackets
- 25:16Speaker 2: of the public services are there for show. And it's
- 25:20Speaker 2: the question of what other allegiances do you have while
- 25:24Speaker 2: you're there? There's probably a wooly answer, but the stuff's
- 25:28Speaker 2: always there, and there are just common or garden nasty people,
- 25:31Speaker 2: like the head of support to military operations in my
- 25:33Speaker 2: day in that building over the road was Brian lord Go.
- 25:37Speaker 2: And I was going to say, Google Bus, you'd say,
- 25:40Speaker 2: use your preferred non discriminatory search engine to find out
- 25:44Speaker 2: what Brian Laude did. He's a wife beater, quite a nasty,
- 25:47Speaker 2: violent one, right, So he's put away for that. And
- 25:49Speaker 2: there are a number of such people. And of course
- 25:51Speaker 2: people say it's a large organization, you're always going to
- 25:54Speaker 2: get that kind of thing. These guys always gravitate to
- 25:56Speaker 2: the key posts, you know. At the radical solution to
- 26:00Speaker 2: get rid of them is to remove those posts from existence,
- 26:04Speaker 2: isn't it terrific?
- 26:07Speaker 3: Alex thanks very much.
- 26:09Speaker 1: No going on to well, I mean, I suppose related things,
- 26:14Speaker 1: but I think this might be one for Ben. When
- 26:17Speaker 1: you speak about the layers of the deep state and
- 26:19Speaker 1: their organization, why does anyone speak about Masonic lodges and
- 26:23Speaker 1: how secret societies influence these spheares. I think that there
- 26:28Speaker 1: has been quite a lot of coverage of such things.
- 26:31Speaker 1: But Ben, what's your take?
- 26:35Speaker 3: That's a big question. We do talk about Masonic symbolism
- 26:40Speaker 3: in a lot of our reporting. Actually, if I look
- 26:44Speaker 3: at Tortoise Media for example, and a political foundation like
- 26:48Speaker 3: some of these organizations that we've talked about over the
- 26:50Speaker 3: past six months, we're often referencing Masonic symbolism and clandestine networks.
- 26:58Speaker 3: And actually, I think that's what common purpose ultimately is.
- 27:00Speaker 3: I think it's Mason control. That's my personal view on it.
- 27:04Speaker 3: But some of the stuff that we're looking at at
- 27:06Speaker 3: the moment, at a top level global level, in the stratosphere,
- 27:11Speaker 3: like way way way above the Nation States, where the
- 27:15Speaker 3: international rich convene and discuss their plans for humanity, what
- 27:21Speaker 3: they're looking at is transformation, total transformation globally. Of the
- 27:28Speaker 3: three pillars that I was talking about earlier, right, So
- 27:30Speaker 3: I talked about the church, the market, and the state.
- 27:33Speaker 3: So we're looking at people who are talking about a
- 27:35Speaker 3: total transformation of the market, what they call capitalism. And
- 27:40Speaker 3: there's a huge conversation, supposedly organic conversation happening out in
- 27:47Speaker 3: the public at the moment about capitalism and the future
- 27:50Speaker 3: capitalism and how it needs to change, and a lot
- 27:52Speaker 3: of it, just like the occupy movement, is very much
- 27:54Speaker 3: built on genuine concerns about the markets and what they've done. Yeah,
- 27:59Speaker 3: and globalization in particular and the impact that that has
- 28:02Speaker 3: had on the country, you know, but that desire that
- 28:08Speaker 3: we're being driven towards essentially a fusing of the market
- 28:12Speaker 3: in the state. So they're going to come together on
- 28:14Speaker 3: the rights in the market, so they're going to become
- 28:19Speaker 3: they're trying to socialize business. This is a lot of
- 28:21Speaker 3: this language, and that's happening at the global level with
- 28:24Speaker 3: things like ESG and the Sustainable Development Goals is going
- 28:27Speaker 3: right the way down to small businesses so b corpse
- 28:30Speaker 3: and social businesses and these new entities. Right, so they've
- 28:33Speaker 3: got it right from the top all the way down
- 28:34Speaker 3: to the bottom. On the market side, they're also looking
- 28:38Speaker 3: to completely transform what they call democracy, which is government, right,
- 28:43Speaker 3: the state. And when I think about democracy, I've used
- 28:45Speaker 3: this term liberal democracy, which is we can do whatever
- 28:48Speaker 3: we want if enough people go along with it. Right,
- 28:51Speaker 3: that's what liberal democracy actually means. And that amounts to
- 28:55Speaker 3: what alex has has described, where you've got supposedly publicly
- 28:59Speaker 3: funded government entities, where the actual management layer, the power layer,
- 29:04Speaker 3: is run by private corporations, which is kind of the
- 29:06Speaker 3: inverse of what you're seeing on the other side. And
- 29:09Speaker 3: it's all about coalescing power and profit into one place,
- 29:13Speaker 3: this global platform. And then the final one, the transformation
- 29:17Speaker 3: of the church. The way they talk about it is
- 29:19Speaker 3: the transformation of humanity itself, right, and that's in two
- 29:23Speaker 3: or three ways. Primarily, it's about fusing us with the technology,
- 29:30Speaker 3: so actually we've become more than human in a way.
- 29:33Speaker 3: It's the way they think about it, and ultimately that
- 29:35Speaker 3: makes us easier to control because everything we're interfacing with
- 29:38Speaker 3: reality through the technology. So that's a spiritual transformation of humanity.
- 29:44Speaker 3: We no longer human were actually cyborgs, right, We've merged
- 29:46Speaker 3: with the machinery. And then the other thing is this
- 29:50Speaker 3: genetic engineering and this desire to take our genetic codes
- 29:55Speaker 3: our DNA and to codify it and understand it an
- 30:00Speaker 3: algorithmically trade on it. Ultimately, right, they building a marketplace
- 30:04Speaker 3: and the control grid based on our genetic sequences, and
- 30:08Speaker 3: that's the agenda of these secret societies. That's what they're doing. Ultimately.
- 30:14Speaker 3: It's the way I see it. And part of the
- 30:16Speaker 3: reason we don't maybe talk about it as much as
- 30:18Speaker 3: some people would like is actually they are quite a
- 30:21Speaker 3: pique and quite difficult to look at, and it's difficult
- 30:23Speaker 3: to prove things, you know, so there's a lot of
- 30:26Speaker 3: inference that has to be made. And when we talk
- 30:29Speaker 3: on the news in particular, it's about things that we
- 30:31Speaker 3: can very clearly demonstrate our true right. So venturing too
- 30:38Speaker 3: much into that stuff. Certainly, in my short time with
- 30:41Speaker 3: the column, I've only been doing this for about a
- 30:42Speaker 3: year and a half has been less of a focus.
- 30:45Speaker 3: But I think that will probably change.
- 30:53Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, Ben's Ben's kind of you know, put it
- 30:57Speaker 8: all in a nutshell, and absolutely we we at the
- 31:00Speaker 8: moment we the whole world is everything's being financialized. You know,
- 31:05Speaker 8: we're finding the financialization of nature. With with the e
- 31:10Speaker 8: s g s, every every small business and every every
- 31:15Speaker 8: farmer are going to be you know, they're financializing, they're
- 31:18Speaker 8: trying to capture the whole of nature and and that
- 31:23Speaker 8: is a big, a big market. It's the greenwashing, you know,
- 31:26Speaker 8: it's it's all the big banks really pushing into We've
- 31:30Speaker 8: got all the you know which ultimately all the big
- 31:32Speaker 8: big players here are owned by Vanguard, Black Rock and Stateside,
- 31:37Speaker 8: and that's what we're looking at. We're looking at a
- 31:40Speaker 8: massive corporatization of our entire world. So they want to
- 31:45Speaker 8: own everything and and keep us poor, hungry and cold.
- 31:49Speaker 8: And this is what what we really have to realize
- 31:51Speaker 8: is that that they they they're they're aiming to do that,
- 31:55Speaker 8: but they're falling back on everything they're doing. And I
- 31:59Speaker 8: have to I have to say this to give us
- 32:00Speaker 8: hope because it's because we have pushed back that they
- 32:04Speaker 8: are behind in their agenda. I mean when I thank
- 32:07Speaker 8: you when I look at the original original eight eight
- 32:13Speaker 8: millennium goals in two thousand that they try to they
- 32:17Speaker 8: from nineteen ninety two the Earth Summit, they tried to
- 32:20Speaker 8: implement the eight millennium goals by two thousand. They wanted
- 32:23Speaker 8: to be where we are now at the year two thousand,
- 32:26Speaker 8: or the job done. It wasn't. They weren't able to
- 32:29Speaker 8: do it. They had to accelerate it. They had to
- 32:31Speaker 8: accelerate it with the seventeen goals. Now, if you look
- 32:35Speaker 8: at the seventeen goals, I've just put up an interpretation
- 32:39Speaker 8: of them on my website, Sandy Adams dot dot net.
- 32:43Speaker 8: Do subscribe. But I just the whole thing is that
- 32:47Speaker 8: we've got all these goals and they don't They're very sugarcoated.
- 32:51Speaker 8: They look really good, but they are the trap that
- 32:55Speaker 8: they want to really get us on board with, certainly
- 32:58Speaker 8: with the AI. So the AI is is the problem,
- 33:01Speaker 8: and the more we reject the AI, that's all we
- 33:04Speaker 8: have to do is reject the AI.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Yeah, we're venturing off tracks slightly from the question, but no,
- 33:14Speaker 3: that's completely correct. Like the AI, where we were talking
- 33:16Speaker 3: about the transformation of humanity, it's the artivist intelligence delivered
- 33:21Speaker 3: through these devices that will facilitate that. So they are
- 33:25Speaker 3: absolutely desperate to implement AI. They also are opining all
- 33:28Speaker 3: their hopes on it. Because I said this quite a
- 33:33Speaker 3: lot internally, right, But they actually they've tried to. They've
- 33:36Speaker 3: embarked on a project that is impossible to deliver. They
- 33:39Speaker 3: can't do what they're trying to do, it's not actually
- 33:42Speaker 3: feasible to do it, and they are beginning to realize that.
- 33:46Speaker 3: And you know, we often have to go on quite
- 33:49Speaker 3: faint signals coming out of various different places in the system.
- 33:52Speaker 3: But I've seen some communication coming down from top level
- 33:56Speaker 3: in the past two days that tells me that they
- 33:59Speaker 3: are absolutely scrabbling around, don't know what to do, terrified
- 34:04Speaker 3: at the moment. And you know, it's great actually to see.
- 34:12Speaker 8: I think they're realizing that we actually do have the power,
- 34:15Speaker 8: if only we knew it. And it is a bit
- 34:17Speaker 8: like the Wizard of Oz. It's like pulling back that
- 34:19Speaker 8: curtain and seeing that there's some ridiculous person behind that
- 34:24Speaker 8: curtain trying to seize our world, and we have the power.
- 34:29Speaker 8: We just have to believe in, believe in ourselves, and
- 34:32Speaker 8: go for it.
- 34:40Speaker 9: I just want to is someone on I just wanted
- 34:42Speaker 9: to say about freemasonry, because I think this is a
- 34:45Speaker 9: really interesting question. Then I have to put the immediate
- 34:48Speaker 9: caveats in. I'm not a Freemason. I have never been
- 34:51Speaker 9: a free Mason to my knowledge, I'm not associated with
- 34:54Speaker 9: free Masons. You've got to do this, because you know
- 34:57Speaker 9: the backlash comes. But the do I personally believe that
- 35:02Speaker 9: the Masonic movement has very considerable and dangerous power in
- 35:08Speaker 9: this country, and we could say worldwide, Yes, I do.
- 35:12Speaker 9: But the trouble with it is is that it's got
- 35:14Speaker 9: a very glossy label on it, and it's dark and
- 35:17Speaker 9: it's exciting, and the moment you start to point a finger,
- 35:21Speaker 9: then people get taken into it, and it's that you know,
- 35:25Speaker 9: it's the Freemasons. It's the Freemasons who's doing it. It's
- 35:28Speaker 9: the Freemasons. And this takes you into mush. You can't
- 35:32Speaker 9: actually get anywhere. And so for me, I'll try this analogy.
- 35:37Speaker 9: It may fall flat, all right, but I've got an
- 35:40Speaker 9: interest in radio appropriate with itc HQ. But if you
- 35:44Speaker 9: look at a printed circuit board, it's got lots of
- 35:47Speaker 9: these days, it's got lots of little minute components on it,
- 35:52Speaker 9: and if there's a problem with that electronic circuit, it's
- 35:56Speaker 9: very difficult to get into it in order to add
- 36:00Speaker 9: lies what the fault is. Often where the fault is located,
- 36:04Speaker 9: and the only way you can do it is by
- 36:07Speaker 9: taking a section of the circuit and then you're testing
- 36:10Speaker 9: what goes in and what comes out and if that works, well, okay,
- 36:15Speaker 9: maybe the problems in that bit and you home in
- 36:17Speaker 9: on it. So you solve a problem in a very
- 36:20Speaker 9: complicated system by doing a series of little tests. And
- 36:25Speaker 9: for me, you just cannot get into freemasonry and then say, well,
- 36:30Speaker 9: this political decision has been made because of a Masonic
- 36:34Speaker 9: meeting somewhere behind closed doors. We don't know where it is,
- 36:37Speaker 9: and we i've got any minutes, but what we can
- 36:39Speaker 9: see is where bad policy comes out, and that gives
- 36:45Speaker 9: us a clue to the fact that something's wrong. But
- 36:47Speaker 9: you can abandon the Masonic bit altogether, because we should
- 36:51Speaker 9: be testing each individual and what they say and what
- 36:54Speaker 9: they do. Are they honest, are they telling the truth?
- 36:57Speaker 9: Are they coming out with policy which is better fitting society.
- 37:01Speaker 9: If you test the individual, whatever else they're involved in,
- 37:06Speaker 9: that that all drops to one side because if you
- 37:08Speaker 9: discover the person's a liar, they're a liar and you
- 37:11Speaker 9: can't trust them. So it doesn't matter whether they're a
- 37:13Speaker 9: Freemason or not. They're a liar. So test the people
- 37:17Speaker 9: don't get drawn into labels. Is one of the real
- 37:22Speaker 9: weaknesses I think of our exciting fight back is that
- 37:27Speaker 9: people get pulled into who the bad people are and
- 37:31Speaker 9: they put a label on them. This is a mistake.
- 37:33Speaker 9: Judge the person.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Excellent, very good question. We've just got a couple of
- 37:43Speaker 1: minutes left. We'll try and fit a couple more questions in,
- 37:46Speaker 1: and I'm going to tweet one slightly in order to
- 37:47Speaker 1: bring Diane in because she's been running several interviews specifically
- 37:52Speaker 1: concentrating on education and the perversion of young minds via
- 37:57Speaker 1: That means, so the question is about and we have
- 38:01Speaker 1: obviously touched on it slightly, but about control through digitization,
- 38:06Speaker 1: but particularly in the form of a mobile telephone dynamic.
- 38:08Speaker 1: I just wonder, from what you've gleaned from those that
- 38:11Speaker 1: you have spoken to, how is this sort of dreadful
- 38:17Speaker 1: scourge kind of manifesting via specifically via these devices with
- 38:20Speaker 1: children in an educational setting.
- 38:23Speaker 4: Oh.
- 38:24Speaker 7: I mean, I have inside experience of that from when
- 38:26Speaker 7: I was at academic that there were and I have
- 38:29Speaker 7: to admit that I was pulled into some research on
- 38:30Speaker 7: this about how to make apps more addictive for young people.
- 38:36Speaker 7: I participated in some of the research I was part
- 38:39Speaker 7: of funding on. It was one of the things that
- 38:41Speaker 7: I didn't feel comfortable about because I was like, why
- 38:43Speaker 7: is this a good idea? You know, what do we
- 38:45Speaker 7: know about young people and they're developing cognition of how
- 38:49Speaker 7: this is going to impact how they see the world,
- 38:51Speaker 7: what they do with their time, how they experience reality,
- 38:54Speaker 7: and how many of us can be out nowadays in
- 38:57Speaker 7: a restaurant and we see these children staring at devices.
- 39:00Speaker 7: They're not talking to their siblings, they're not talking to
- 39:03Speaker 7: their parents, They're looking at their phones, right, And so
- 39:05Speaker 7: we don't really understand at this point, Well, we know
- 39:08Speaker 7: that it's not good, but we also don't understand the
- 39:12Speaker 7: overall impact. And also as well, the contents are difficult
- 39:16Speaker 7: to manage. So back when I started as a librarian
- 39:19Speaker 7: twenty five years ago, we had concerns about Internet searching
- 39:23Speaker 7: and the filters never worked well. While they tried to
- 39:26Speaker 7: implement that in public libraries wouldn't say, well, so if
- 39:30Speaker 7: you type the word breast cancer into a search engine,
- 39:33Speaker 7: but what comes up?
- 39:34Speaker 4: You know?
- 39:35Speaker 7: So they would they would legitimate searches would would be blocked,
- 39:38Speaker 7: so they couldn't actually get to actual information that wasn't
- 39:41Speaker 7: necessarily pornographic or whatever.
- 39:43Speaker 4: But it was.
- 39:44Speaker 7: It never worked, It has never worked, and it never
- 39:46Speaker 7: will work, and again it goes back to what Brian
- 39:48Speaker 7: was saying about we have to involve the parents. You
- 39:51Speaker 7: can't just give children a phone and expect them to
- 39:54Speaker 7: entertain themselves and expect that they're going to be able
- 39:57Speaker 7: to integrate into the world. I already see it in students.
- 40:00Speaker 7: You know, before I left universities over the lockdown period,
- 40:04Speaker 7: These children, these young people, they were locked in their
- 40:06Speaker 7: rooms watching zoom calls and YouTube videos. They weren't in class.
- 40:10Speaker 7: They were now being young people getting in trouble going
- 40:13Speaker 7: to pubs the way we did. They weren't doing any
- 40:16Speaker 7: of that. They were locked and attached to screens. And
- 40:20Speaker 7: the other thing as well, is that I think I
- 40:22Speaker 7: might have said this before in the news, but COVID
- 40:24Speaker 7: would not have happened the way it happened. If it
- 40:26Speaker 7: had happened twenty years prior, we wouldn't have had the phones,
- 40:30Speaker 7: we wouldn't have had all the Wi Fi, we wouldn't
- 40:33Speaker 7: have had the ability to stay at home, order from Amazon,
- 40:36Speaker 7: get all of our groceries delivered through our apps. Because
- 40:39Speaker 7: the technology, well, if it was there, it wasn't rolled
- 40:42Speaker 7: out to the public yet, right. But that's the reality
- 40:44Speaker 7: that the children of today's world know now. And what
- 40:47Speaker 7: scares me is if we ever beat this, when we
- 40:50Speaker 7: go back into twenty years into the future, will they'd
- 40:53Speaker 7: be able to function the way we do today? And
- 40:54Speaker 7: I'm afraid that the answer is no, unless we continue
- 40:57Speaker 7: to push back and take those things out of their
- 40:59Speaker 7: hands until they're old.
- 41:05Speaker 3: Accident Charles guys jump into that. I actually don't think
- 41:10Speaker 3: that adults should be using phones either. You have to
- 41:16Speaker 3: understand there's two things about that, right, So you asked
- 41:19Speaker 3: to do some academic research. What why have you got
- 41:25Speaker 3: two phones? Okay?
- 41:29Speaker 7: Property, that's the property, do you see, HQ Alex.
- 41:35Speaker 3: You asked to take part in some research about increasing
- 41:38Speaker 3: usage of the fund. Yeah, well that's the entire business
- 41:41Speaker 3: model of the whole big tech addiction. It's addiction exactly.
- 41:44Speaker 3: So you're basically looking at I think of it like
- 41:47Speaker 3: a drug cartel, right, So the Mexican cartels they want
- 41:50Speaker 3: as many people taking as many of the most addictive
- 41:53Speaker 3: drugs as possible. It's exactly the same thing with the
- 41:55Speaker 3: tech companies. And actually there's there's been a big again
- 41:58Speaker 3: very well shepherded movement recently in people my kind of generation,
- 42:04Speaker 3: so sort of millennial parents who are looking at their
- 42:06Speaker 3: children and going, hang the minute, this isn't good. And
- 42:09Speaker 3: then the BBC and the government have swept in and gone, yes,
- 42:12Speaker 3: we agree, it's really not good. So we're gonna we're
- 42:14Speaker 3: gonna decide on we're going to try and ban phone
- 42:18Speaker 3: usage until the sixteen. And it's like saying, well, you're
- 42:21Speaker 3: not gonna be able to smoke crack until you're sixteen,
- 42:24Speaker 3: so you shouldn't be smoking crack, right, Like, it's that's
- 42:28Speaker 3: the line we should be taking with that, And actually
- 42:30Speaker 3: the same history for all of us. I think my
- 42:32Speaker 3: personal view is that we probably peaked in technological terms
- 42:36Speaker 3: sometime in the nineties, right, And actually that's probably about
- 42:39Speaker 3: right in terms of internet usage, computer capacity where the
- 42:43Speaker 3: internet was, you know, because it was useful, but now
- 42:45Speaker 3: it's just so all consuming that it's destructive to humanity,
- 42:51Speaker 3: you know, and they're trying to use it to transform
- 42:54Speaker 3: us and subjugate us. And why would you let them
- 42:58Speaker 3: continue with that?
- 42:59Speaker 2: Toto your podcast, At the risk of getting a severe
- 43:04Speaker 2: look from a guardsman, I will give a one sentence edition.
- 43:09Speaker 2: There are sometimes uses in having lots of different gadgets,
- 43:11Speaker 2: like all the things in my pocket. I got detained
- 43:14Speaker 2: and divn a schedule seven terrorism whatnot search at Glasgow
- 43:20Speaker 2: Airport last to August, and I think I had three laptops,
- 43:24Speaker 2: four mobiles, five E readers. Had to write down the
- 43:27Speaker 2: passwords to all of them and Police Scotland took them
- 43:30Speaker 2: all away. This gave me plenty of time to tell
- 43:33Speaker 2: the specialist interviewing officers why I got into GHQ work
- 43:38Speaker 2: and who in his chain of command was a Satanist
- 43:40Speaker 2: ritual abuser and he had to write it all down.
- 43:46Speaker 2: And I finished off by saying the former head of
- 43:50Speaker 2: the Scottish legal world, actually Lord Hardy before SNP days.
- 43:55Speaker 2: This was it was the first labor Guide under Devolution
- 43:58Speaker 2: is named by Sheriff John Hallett. The book available for
- 44:01Speaker 2: free on Kindle unlimited. As a child abuser and child
- 44:04Speaker 2: pimp and you don't seem to know about it, mister
- 44:07Speaker 2: so fifteen so cordially shook my hand and almost personally
- 44:11Speaker 2: escorted me to the bus and said I was doing
- 44:13Speaker 2: good work, terrific.
- 44:20Speaker 1: An excellent note, if fraternalizing one to end that session
- 44:23Speaker 1: on Alex, thank you very much, Thank you all to
- 44:26Speaker 1: those of you who did provide the many many questions
- 44:29Speaker 1: that we received and were able to go through, and
- 44:31Speaker 1: the fantastic thing is you just never know where the
- 44:33Speaker 1: answer is going to go. So I hope that was
- 44:35Speaker 1: as enjoyable for all of you as it was for me.
- 44:37Speaker 1: That's terrific. Thank you very much. Indeed, now we are
- 44:41Speaker 1: stopping there for this session and then we've got fifteen
- 44:44Speaker 1: minutes and then we welcome Patrick back to the stage,
- 44:47Speaker 1: so back at half past please, thank you very much.
- 44:52Speaker 1: The UK Column Panel