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Zack Moss on Utah's rivalry win, Any doubt creep in on sidelines when Utes lost the lead (?), Another challenge at Arizona + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Here's O.C.
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  Speaker 3: From the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in the
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  Speaker 1: Utah football legend, Zach Moss, to talk all things football.
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  Speaker 1: Utah football and a big win in the Holy War.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Moss, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Doing really good. How are you, my man?
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  Speaker 1: Man, it was an amazing day up there on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Could not have been more perfect weather. Early kickoff did
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  Speaker 1: not affect the atmosphere, in my opinion. How did you
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  Speaker 1: feel about how it worked out with the Musts and
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  Speaker 1: Rice-Eckel Stadium at a 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Kick? Oh, it was perfect, man. Those 10 a.m. kicks,
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  Speaker 2: I think fans should probably vibe for those a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more than not, honestly. That was absolutely remarkable. It
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  Speaker 2: was a beautiful, beautiful day. It wasn't cold at all.
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  Speaker 2: I was overdressed. Um, which I wasn't so happy about
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  Speaker 2: Sunday and out there so much, um, thinking it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be a lot of cheerleader that day, but, um, man,
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  Speaker 2: that was, you talk about what does November football look
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  Speaker 2: like in Salt Lake? That was absolutely what you would
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  Speaker 2: imagine right there.
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about way. Sean Parker's date.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, in your career, did you ever have
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  Speaker 3: a first.
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  Speaker 1: Carry like bump bruise injury where very first touch of
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  Speaker 1: the game, you tweak something and what you hope was
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  Speaker 1: going to be a perfect day. You realize that crap,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to suck for the rest of the day.
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  Speaker 2: later on in the game for sure. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I can't think of a little bug scary. No.
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  Speaker 3: Cause I think that's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the very first touch for way Sean Parker. He,
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  Speaker 1: he and Glasker who tackled him both got up and
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  Speaker 1: limped off basically. Um, and you know, he, he gutted
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  Speaker 1: through it and he, he clearly wasn't a hundred percent himself.
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  Speaker 1: The coaching staff obviously knew what he only got two
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  Speaker 1: carries in the first half, but still found ways to
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  Speaker 1: affect the game as we have talked about a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But if you can take me into the mentality of
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  Speaker 1: a guy like him, knowing how important this game is,
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  Speaker 1: how important he is and knowing now, maybe it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be a hundred percent perfect, but you still
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  Speaker 1: have to stay in there and fight through it. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, finding a way to do that. What's that
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  Speaker 1: like for a way Sean Parker in this game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that just says so much about his character,
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  Speaker 2: his toughness, all those things that is what makes him
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  Speaker 2: a really, really good football player, man. You know, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, getting beamed up early in the game
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  Speaker 2: like that, what you know is going to be physical
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  Speaker 2: all day long and to already be– get a quick
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  Speaker 2: thing up like that, that's absolutely going to shake the
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  Speaker 2: confidence a little bit when you know you want to
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  Speaker 2: have one of those type of games that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people talk about and things of that nature. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he knows what he means to the offense. Him just
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  Speaker 2: being on the football field you know, is huge for
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  Speaker 2: the offense and he can pull people. But this is movement, man.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and he talked about it a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about what him and Coach Markatour has talked about. You know,
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  Speaker 2: even when he's not getting the ball because there's so
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  Speaker 2: many other times when he's not getting the ball, when
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  Speaker 2: he is healthy, you know, that's a big thing when
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  Speaker 2: you talk about wanting to go play at the next level.
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  Speaker 2: You also got to be a really good football player
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  Speaker 2: without the ball in your hands, not when you have
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  Speaker 2: the ball in your hands. And, I mean, just look
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  Speaker 2: at that, that past person that he had, he got
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  Speaker 2: some really good ones throughout his career here so far,
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  Speaker 2: but that one for sure, just paint the picture of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, his mindset, not being able to contribute in
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  Speaker 2: the fancy, fancy ways, right. With the ball in his hands,
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  Speaker 2: but man, he's an absolute all around football player. And
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  Speaker 2: that showed up on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Take me inside of a huddle.
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  Speaker 1: When something like that happens where you've got a limited,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's, Either your.
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  Speaker 3: Very best player is your second best player in the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And now, you know, like, OK, this might not be
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  Speaker 1: as productive of a day for that individual. You're facing
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  Speaker 1: the best defense you faced all year. And it means
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  Speaker 1: that you got to look at the receivers and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this one's on you today. You got to look at
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback and say, hey, this might be a bigger
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  Speaker 1: load for you to carry or the tight ends or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they played complimentary football all year. This has been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a well-balanced offense for the most part. But
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  Speaker 1: take me inside of a huddle and the talk on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline or whatever when one of your best weapons
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  Speaker 1: is maybe not gone but limited, and now it's Devin
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  Speaker 1: Dampier's show or whatever. How do you trust that things
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  Speaker 1: are going to go the right way if you're a
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  Speaker 1: member of that offense?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to build the trust. I think
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  Speaker 2: the trust is built from the offseason to spring ball
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  Speaker 2: to fall camp and all those things. They know that
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  Speaker 2: there's been many times, even go back last year, where
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  Speaker 2: Devin had to be the lead guy this year. Not
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  Speaker 2: so much that he had to be the absolute point
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  Speaker 2: guard and scorer of the ball. He doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: do a lot for the last few weeks here because
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  Speaker 2: of some of those guys being banged up and playing
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  Speaker 2: better defenses or whatever it may be. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you look around and they truly believe in each other,
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  Speaker 2: which is the main thing, right? They have a culture
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  Speaker 2: that they believe in, that they identify with. There's not
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  Speaker 2: a guy on that field that they don't think can
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  Speaker 2: go out there and do stuff, right? You know, that's
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  Speaker 2: the reason you get into some of those games early
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  Speaker 2: in the year. You have those. where you play at
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  Speaker 2: Idaho State or teams in Utah State, just to build
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  Speaker 2: up that confidence for the guys behind the starters, to
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  Speaker 2: build their confidence and know, hey, I've already done this.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's been four or five weeks because I've actually
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  Speaker 2: had to come in and play a bigger part or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: but all those guys just absolutely trust each other and
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  Speaker 2: want to fight for each other and want to play
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  Speaker 2: for each other, which is why a guy like where
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  Speaker 2: Sean wants to stay into that game and keep playing,
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  Speaker 2: even though he's clearly hobbled. So many times he's motioning out.
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  Speaker 2: He's not getting the ball, but it was really hard
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  Speaker 2: for him just to even do the motion. But like
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  Speaker 2: I said, those guys truly believe in each other, care
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  Speaker 2: about each other, and we have a team that can
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  Speaker 2: do all those different things and actually have that belief
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  Speaker 2: back in each other. And not just playing for the
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  Speaker 2: name on the back of the jersey, right? Because that's very,
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  Speaker 2: very easy to do if you're an 18, 19, 20-year-old
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  Speaker 2: kid and you're also thinking about NIL and thinking about
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  Speaker 2: what does my feet hold for NFL or whatever it
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  Speaker 2: may be, right? It's very easy to play for the
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  Speaker 2: name on the back. Very hard to get everybody to
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  Speaker 2: buy into the name on the front of that jersey.
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  Speaker 2: And right now we have a group of guys playing
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  Speaker 2: for the name on the front.
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  Speaker 1: There was obviously a significant chunk of the game where
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  Speaker 1: BYU started to gain the momentum back. Then they stole
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  Speaker 1: it definitively. They took the lead. And it felt like
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  Speaker 1: they took the crowd out of it a little bit. But,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're right down there on the sideline. You're
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  Speaker 1: listening in. You know what's happening. Was there ever a
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  Speaker 1: moment where the team started to get down or there
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  Speaker 1: was a lack of belief from the actual team that
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  Speaker 1: they were going to figure it out?
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  Speaker 3: It didn't feel that way watching, but I'm not quite
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  Speaker 3: as close as you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no. They were not worried. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they came out through a punch, right? They know what
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  Speaker 2: type of team BYU is and stuff like that. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about a team that was ranked the number two, two,
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  Speaker 2: three team, whatever it was, a few weeks ago in
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  Speaker 2: the country for a UCF loss. They know exactly... what
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  Speaker 2: that team was about, right? That's a very, very good team,
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  Speaker 2: even if you just take the rivalry out of itself.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and that's why they came out with their
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  Speaker 2: hair on fire, right? They played to who they were,
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  Speaker 2: and BYU being who they were as well, came back
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  Speaker 2: to their punch. And then it was all about just
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who can make the most body shots, right?
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  Speaker 2: You know, both threw out some haymakers early. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: it's about just connecting and connecting and connecting. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even in the locker room, You know, nobody was hanging
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  Speaker 2: their heads. Like, guys were not worried. Guys weren't yelling around,
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  Speaker 2: you know, essentially frantic, panicking with anything on their faces. Man,
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  Speaker 2: it was just, you know, listening to the coaches, finding
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  Speaker 2: the collections, and going out there and executing the collections, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's never about the other teams. It's all about us. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's what really good teams focus on. What can I
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  Speaker 2: do better? What can we do better? What can the
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  Speaker 2: coaches do better to put the guys in better situations?
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  Speaker 2: And you saw a team come out in that second
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  Speaker 2: half and just play Utah football, which they've done all
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  Speaker 2: season long, right? I mean, the defense absolutely didn't believe
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  Speaker 2: that that offense probably should have been on the field
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  Speaker 2: with them. And they show why they believe that and
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  Speaker 2: why they played the way they played in that second
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  Speaker 2: half pitching the shutout.
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  Speaker 1: Where do we need to start putting Devin Dampier's name
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  Speaker 1: when we talk about the most impactful quarterbacks that have
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  Speaker 1: come through Obviously you played with some good ones and we've,
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  Speaker 1: we've watched guys like Cam rising closely. I was on
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  Speaker 1: the team with Alex Smith, who I think is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: number one in most people's minds. And Devin Dampier is
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  Speaker 1: not going to be as statistically dominant as a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those guys, but he just makes plays.
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  Speaker 3: He accounts for touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: He's, He's one of the best players in the country
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  Speaker 1: at being the most impactful guy on the field for
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  Speaker 1: his team, even if it doesn't look the same as
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  Speaker 1: other quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: Where do we need to start putting him in those conversations, Zach?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I said it, I want to say,
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  Speaker 2: two weeks ago versus Cincinnati, man, that, you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: one of those players, to your point, it looks different, right?
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  Speaker 2: It feels different, right? Sometimes you ask yourself, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you scratch your head. I do it myself. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: kind of be like, man, I wonder what he's doing. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder why he missed it. Man, I wonder, you know, right? Like,
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  Speaker 2: When you really just step back and look at his
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  Speaker 2: body of work, only two losses in his career at
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  Speaker 2: the University of Utah, and he has played so well
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  Speaker 2: so many different times. You know, no matter who you...
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  Speaker 2: Some people may want to sit back and look at, well,
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  Speaker 2: who has the competition been, right? Who has been on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of the ball, right? When you talk
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  Speaker 2: about a quarterback rivalry, right? Where, you know, there's some
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  Speaker 2: guys like, you know, Sam Donald or Justin Herbert, right?
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  Speaker 2: And things of that nature, right? Where he's had to
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  Speaker 2: have a real showdown in a battle. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: people have to... I don't know if he comes back
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  Speaker 2: next year or whatever it may look like there, or
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  Speaker 2: if he's taking interest from NFL or whatever it may be,
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  Speaker 2: but the man has been absolutely stellar. He's been probably
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest leaders of a football team that
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  Speaker 2: Utah has had in the culture, which is why Coach
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  Speaker 2: Sally wanted to make sure that he had a guy
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  Speaker 2: like that back. for his first season as head coach
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  Speaker 2: because he understands how much and how important having a quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: but not just having a quarterback with talent, but having
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback that can command the offense, command respect of
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  Speaker 2: his teammates on both sides of the ball in that
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  Speaker 2: locker room is absolutely huge. And then that's why we've
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  Speaker 2: been able to see Such good football from the end
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  Speaker 2: of last season after that BYU loss to what we've
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  Speaker 2: been able to witness so far. And it all starts
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  Speaker 2: with him, right, man? A lot of these other guys
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  Speaker 2: have done some really, really good things this season, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But without a quarterback, no matter whatever has happened to
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  Speaker 2: us with the other 21 guys on that football field,
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  Speaker 2: without a quarterback, man, none of it works. So he's
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  Speaker 2: been really, really, really good. You got to start thinking
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  Speaker 2: about him up there with, you know, Alex Smith and
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley and all the different other guys, Travis Wilson, and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all the names that you can think of
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  Speaker 2: that have played with that U on the side of
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  Speaker 2: their head. He's up there. Hopefully he can Absolutely. Brian Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: let me not forget. But, you know, hopefully he can
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  Speaker 2: etch his name. The Cam Risings, man, I'm blanking here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about all these guys that we've had. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: he can etch his name in stone officially so that
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  Speaker 2: he can have that remembrance that a lot of those
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  Speaker 2: guys can impact a field on the fans like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of those guys have had.
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  Speaker 1: What was going through your mind on fourth and one
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  Speaker 1: when you saw Creed Whittemore take a pitch and drop
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  Speaker 1: back to pass to Devin Dampier?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm on fourth down and a very, very critical
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  Speaker 2: part of the football field. I I did not love
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  Speaker 2: the play. Um, I did not love the play and
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  Speaker 2: I was absolutely shocked that he threw the football. But
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  Speaker 2: then I looked back, um, and I saw the film
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  Speaker 2: of the clip on, on, uh, on Twitter. Um, you know, he,
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  Speaker 2: he went off the field and they tried to run
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  Speaker 2: like a little sneak play, kind of something that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I want to say Baker Mayfield ran, um, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years ago now where it was like a little
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  Speaker 2: fake walk off, come back on and he lines up
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  Speaker 2: right really close to the sideline. Uh, maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: Johnny Mandel and they throw him the ball, but the
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  Speaker 2: ref kind of ended up, uh, alerting the defense that
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  Speaker 2: he was over there because they made him run back
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  Speaker 2: almost into the, to the huddle or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: But so from that part, without the rest doing that,
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  Speaker 2: it's absolute great pickoff. It's a walk-in touchdown. Um, And
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they got blew up pretty much before
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  Speaker 2: the ball even snapped and he was able to go
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  Speaker 2: up and make a play like that, like... That's not
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  Speaker 2: a play that is very, very easy. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of receivers that play receivers that have some issues catching
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  Speaker 2: a contested ball like that on the sideline, having body control,
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  Speaker 2: being able to bring the ball down and survive the
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  Speaker 2: contact of the ground as well. I mean, the guy
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  Speaker 2: has been doing a lot of really good things, and
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  Speaker 2: that's just another testament to the type of player he's become.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this for the Cincinnati game. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about it with Houston coming in town. Like every, every
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  Speaker 1: test is scary. Everything's nerve wracking now because you're an
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  Speaker 1: undefeated team trying to stay at the top.
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  Speaker 3: That's harder than getting to the top.
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  Speaker 1: Why should Utah fans feel like this Utah team is
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  Speaker 1: going to go down to Tucson, a place they haven't
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  Speaker 1: traditionally played all that well and continue the undefeated streak.
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  Speaker 2: I think it goes back to, you know, I said earlier,
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  Speaker 2: just the culture, the leadership that they have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: With those two things and the belief and the buy-in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, these guys, Coach Scali talked about it in
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  Speaker 2: the postgame and things of that nature after the BYU game,
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  Speaker 2: not saying it's the one, the game, right? It was
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  Speaker 2: a game, right? And they have that mindset. They were
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  Speaker 2: able to talk to Dan Peer as well after that game. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Coach Scali pretty much has these guys understanding
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  Speaker 2: and believing that right that each week is a championship
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  Speaker 2: game you have to treat them like that right and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you he's able to install that until
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  Speaker 2: guys they were oh and oh then go to one
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  Speaker 2: and oh to two and oh three you know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of teams kind of can get surprised about essentially
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  Speaker 2: being you know beginning of the season this team wasn't
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  Speaker 2: on the radars of a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people right um you know they were able to they
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  Speaker 2: They've been able to do some really, really, really good things,
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  Speaker 2: and they didn't have to switch their mentality halfway through
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  Speaker 2: the season. Like, oh, man, we're 6-0 now. Now we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be a team that people are going to
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  Speaker 2: be hunting. We're going to be a team with a
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  Speaker 2: bullseye on our back. They've already had this championship mindset
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  Speaker 2: since fall camp. Guys have already been instilled inside those guys,
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  Speaker 2: so they understand where they want to go and what
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  Speaker 2: they need to do to get to where they want
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  Speaker 2: to be. And I love the fact that really hard.
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  Speaker 2: You can start to look forward. If you're a team
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  Speaker 2: that kind of surprises yourself, that old man with five
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  Speaker 2: and O you know, let's get to this, let's do this. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And now you have a change identity of your team.
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  Speaker 2: This team has had an identity since fall camp when
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  Speaker 2: they were O and O and now they're sitting at
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  Speaker 2: where they're sitting at. You know, they understand nothing has
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  Speaker 2: changed on their process.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel about this announcement? Expanded college football
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  Speaker 1: playoff is official. 24 teams, no more conference championship games.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I think I'm probably like everybody else right now. You
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: can see the good and you can see the bad.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: You can see the nostalgia that you probably also used
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: to have. It's going to be gone now a little
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: bit with You know, there's no more Big 12 champion,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: no more Big 10 champ, no more SEC champ, right?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: All that stuff's going to be gone. So, you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: definitely sitting there probably with some mixed emotions about it
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: until you see the product, right? It's going to take
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: a few years to enjoy the product and see. love
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the product just like it took a few years you
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: know to get from uh the bcs to the csv
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: playoffs and then the sport teams and then put it
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: up to 12 teams and you know change is always
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: going to happen um and it takes a little bit
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: of time to adjust to that and enjoy it and
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: um you know all those type of things as well
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: but you know i understand it um you know Football
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: is keen. And the more you continue to broadcast sports,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: football makes it more competitive, you know, essentially without the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: bowl games, because the bowl games definitely has lost a
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: lot of its aura over the years. Guys sitting out
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: with the playoffs now, guys, essentially are definitely going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: want to play, which I like that part. You keep
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the fans tuned in, right? It's kind of like the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: NBA a little bit where you had to throw the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: NBA cup in to just make it a little bit more,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you know, that part of the season where things can
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: kind of get a little dull. So that's fun. I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: like that. I understand the money part of it as well,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: which is huge, right? NFL is doing it as well.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: All these teams, playing overseas and keep trying to um
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: spread that out and stuff like that so when you
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: understand the business side of it that makes sense um
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: on the fan side you know i think it's going
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: to be overall good because it'll keep these athletes um
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: you know ready to go and play really good football
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and play meaningful football in the months of december um
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and heading to january.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Saturday, there were a lot of former players up there
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: on the sidelines and in pregame and all that stuff.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: And they were spanning all eras.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Shout out Barry Sims and the guys from way back
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and saw Paul Kruger on the sidelines. the sideline from
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: more my era how many guys from from your teams
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: did you see on the.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Sideline oh i saw a lot of guys man marcus
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: william booby hobs kelly young um amari simpkins Donald Thompson, Tyquez, Hampton,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Chase Hanson, Bradley and I, Leckie Fotu, John Penasini. I mean,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: it was so good to see Jackson, Barton as well.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So good to see all these different guys that you
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: don't get a chance to see weekend, week out, day in,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: day out. And to have a moment like that, especially
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: with the type of game that it was as well,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if it was just BYU, but just
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: being able to get all these guys that have contributed
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to life cycles and have done so many things for
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the program, trust the program out to where it's at
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: right now. Being able to see those guys on the
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: sidelines was really, really good. So it's always fun to
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: keep the alumni back to the school and love to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: see the school You know, essentially buying into that and
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: paying attention to that, you know, more so than they've
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: done in the past and things like that, because the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: alumni has shaped the university no matter what. So, you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you need that. You need the alumni around to make
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the guys that's there present or the guys that want
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: to come. be able to look down and see guys
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that went to, you know, essentially go live that dream
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that some of these guys are playing and want to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: come to the school. They believe that it can happen. Right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: So that's, that was big.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Zach, appreciate you giving us time every week. Have a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: great call in Tucson and we'll chat again soon.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, man. Appreciate you guys. Take care.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Zach Moss, NFL veteran, Utah football legend. Most productive running
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: back in school history.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: No big deal.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And, of course, you could hear him on the sidelines
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: during all your official Utah radio broadcasts.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: He was up there on Saturday.