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Saving the Storks | a conversation with Amber Newberry · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hi friends, welcome back to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Amy Wicks, your host, as well as our good friend Ashley Pittman.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: If you're new here, we're so glad you've joined us.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: Here at Simply Wholehearted, we are sharing our journey as we discover how to better love the Lord with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength.
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  SPEAKER_01: We hope to inspire you by inviting our friends to share their ideas of how they live unplugged, purposeful, and intentional in their everyday.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm so grateful to our friends Ben Pasley and Carla Adolph, who've been so kind to share their song which you hear in the background.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's called Heavenly Things and is from their album down here and up above.
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  SPEAKER_01: Be sure and follow them for their latest releases and profound thoughts at entertheworshipcircle.com and All Things Social.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we have just a few more episodes left for this season before we slide into summer.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm loving all the ideas you guys are sending me for how you plan to use your summer months.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's so fun! It's gonna be a great summer.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: Today we want to spend some time honoring motherhood.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: The dream of motherhood, the sacrifice of motherhood, and as well as the pain in the journey to motherhood.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: When I first met Amber Newberry, she was handing out some really cute t-shirts, but it was her presence that caught my attention.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: She was truly striking, radiant, and energetic.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: And she was there to represent Save the Storks, but also to share with us her heartbreaking story.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because years ago, when she needed a friendly face and a safe place, she was met with harsh accusations and ugly signs as she faced her fears and entered an abortion clinic.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't know it then, but her story was like so many others.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: Save the Storks wants to change stories like Amber's.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: They desire to bring hope and another option to those facing crisis.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: Those who are about to enter a clinic as Amber did now have another option.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I once worked with the Crisis Pregnancy Center, so I feel strongly acquainted with their mission and passion.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think Save the Storks work is just brilliant, and I am really excited to have Amber share her story of redemption and how we can partner with a ministry that is literally saving lives.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: Near the end of our conversation with Amber, we asked her what she did to live a wholehearted life for her family ministry.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Her answer was radical self-care.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: It was sort of like a drop the mic moment for me.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because I've talked about soul time before, but she articulated it in such a way that gave me great pause.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I think because soul care is actually really foundational for us women, and yet we struggle to know what really feeds our soul, I've begun to wonder if it's something that's actually under attack.
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  SPEAKER_01: Something that the enemy doesn't want us to have.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I really want to help you and myself to be able to give better from a place of abundance.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know the only way I can do this is to fuel my soul first.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, a little sneak into the summer months, Simply Wholehearted is going to spend some time and resources getting the message out to women about what soul care actually looks like and the practicals of living it out.
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  SPEAKER_01: For today, we put together a short list of ideas and ways that you can begin to give yourself some room to breathe as soon as you're done listening to this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you might think that you don't deserve or have time for some soul care.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: But once I'm guessing you look at these ideas, you might find you've earned some more space in your life and that you can actually make it happen.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: Be sure and check out our show notes for your copy.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: And if you haven't already, we'd love to have you come follow us at Simply Wholehearted on Instagram and Facebook for more helpful tips and ideas like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now here's our conversation with Amber Newberry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm just like, so we we got to meet a declare.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: So I didn't I've gotten bits and pieces of story, but I didn't obviously put together that you were pretty close to my age and a mom of four kids.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: But I have picked up on the holy yoga because we were gonna we were going to try to record, I don't know, it was a month ago or something.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um and we've had plenty of time because we knew we wanted this for Mother's Day, but um, but you were doing like videoing for holy yoga.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: Talk to us about that.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Ashley.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Ashley wants to hear about that.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: I want to know about that.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've just I'm new to the Holy Yoga thing.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: I just started kind of dabbling in it a little bit in the last couple of months and love it.
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  SPEAKER_02: But that is awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Have you just been doing that online?
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, there's a couple of ladies in town who um who teach it.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or I guess that you don't know if you say you teach it, they offer they whatever it is practice, they're offering the practice, not teaching, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, so um, I've been a whole yoga instructor for two years, and um through Holy Yoga, I have a certification in touch and um trauma, and I'm almost complete with my therapy certification.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um that's amazing, Amber.
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  SPEAKER_02: What I was recording was um a friend of mine, her name's Abby, and she runs uh a ministry called Flourish.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: She has changed the name of it, so I'm sorry, I can't remember what she renamed it.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_02: But um, she and I wrote a therapy program, a trauma program together.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's a seven-week-long trauma um program to work with women specifically through um trauma, but also like through like just getting them reconnected to their bodies.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because a lot, like you know, probably 75% of people listening right now have some sort of autoimmune disease, some sort of um body disconnect that they're experiencing.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: And um, that's kind of the world we live in right now where we are not connected with our bodies.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: We're not holistically living like mind, body, heart, and soul.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: And um so our our goal was to help women reconnect with their bodies.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so any kind of women in chronic pain, um, who have chronic illnesses, autoimmune diseases, and also who have experience of trauma, who are survivors of trauma.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: And often what happens is that somebody who comes maybe um for like fibromyalgia or like some other sort of autoimmune issue will end up uncovering a lot of um trauma inside their bodies that they just didn't even realize they were holding on to.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so that's it's a seven-week long course.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: We actually work through um, we work through the chakras, which makes people some people nervous, some people, you know.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: But the chakras really are there, really are nerve bundles that are in those places in your body, like that is like a proven, like if you look inside your body, those are there.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: So, and you can connect them with the ways um that that we are kind of like work in the world, right?
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: So the first is your root chakra, and so we talk about like what it is to be grounded and to root down and to and to know the truth of who you are in God and who he made you to be, because um he's the creator of all things and your truth and your value to him and the fact that you're beautiful and beloved is gonna be the root and the safety and the place where we all can grow from and find healing from.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So just like that, we kind of work our way up, and um, yeah, it's really it was we I did two programs so far, it's been really incredible.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: And um because we liked it so much, we decided to record it so we could offer it to people who aren't local.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm ready to sign up.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's so fascinating.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's the kind of thing I've been trying to learn about this.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: I read a book, I've been reading about this thing about trauma and how it's stored in your body.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I've read, well, I say I read, I tried to read and understand some of a book called The Body Keeps the Score.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's such a good book.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm having to slowly go through it.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: But it's so interesting and it makes total sense to me.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: And it and just in my own experience of even just working out, not just yoga, but even just working out.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: I would get to the end of a workout and get in the stretch mode, and all of a sudden I was all I would feel all emotional.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, this is weird.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Why do I feel this emotional release from the but it I don't know, it's just amazing how mind, body, spirit all go together, and we sometimes just try to ignore it or ignore bits and pieces.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: God is the Trinity, right?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: He is Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and He created us in His image to be um mind and body and spirit.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um, and to live apart from that and to pretend like your body doesn't matter or your body is um the problem.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people hate their bodies, and a lot of people use the Bible to hate their bodies, right?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like I war against the flesh and the desires of the flesh and things like that.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: I hear that a lot from people, and I think, but why would God give you a body?
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: Why would he choose that as his temple, like to indwell there?
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if it was if it was bad.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: He made it and called it good.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the flesh is is the sin, it's not you know the creative, yeah.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's the propensity to sin.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's where sin can happen, but it's it doesn't have to.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: So oh man, that's amazing.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, we could go on, we could talk the whole time about holy okay.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: But that's awesome.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: It is just I know it's a huge part of your story, and yeah, there's a lot there.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: So we we actually I mean we met because of Saving the Storks, right?
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and that you were there kind of sharing about it to the women of Declare and had the table, and yeah, I mean, I think you were a very popular place.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: You were also smacked up in the middle, but it was very t-shirts, which uh, every woman's heart, right?
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_02: And it was a v-neck, like and it was a cute shirt.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it wasn't wearable.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's all the generic tie around the neck.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, and it said like women empower women.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like I think.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so you've seen me wear that.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: I have I seen I don't know.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: I need I love it.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's my favorite.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's soft and cute.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you do need one.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: I need one of those.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's yeah, I I totally was inspired.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I need to make something like this.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so saving this, or but you got involved because of your story, and I would love, I'd love for you to share your story and then you know, kind of lead us through that journey, and we'll have lots of questions to interrupt you because we like to interrupt.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, we'll try to just listen.
• 11:06
  unknown: Okay.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I guess um I was raised Catholic, um, and I think that that is a beautiful religion.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um the way that we did it was not um didn't really focus on what like a profession, like a um personal relationship with Jesus looks like.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I didn't actually ever read the Bible or like and what you called it was a religion.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was yeah, it was like went every Sunday.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, instead of and I like memorized the books of the Bible and like what order they were in for Starburst, right?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: That would have motivated me, yeah.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: Especially for the strawberry.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't, yeah, so it wasn't like a deep, it wasn't deep in me.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um and so like when things started falling apart in my life, it kind of unraveled quickly.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um I experienced uh sexual assault when I was 15 and um it really changed me and changed the way I saw myself and changed the way I presented myself to the world.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I lived a pretty promiscuous, rough kind of a life.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then in college, um I was raped by a boy that I knew um after a very drunk night.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I recognized that um the I what I what I knew about that night was that I felt like I deserved what had happened, that like I was my fault for getting so drunk, it was my fault for staying after all my friends left.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like it very much felt like it was something I deserved and something that was my fault.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then I ended up pregnant from that and um already had really low self-esteem.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: I already really felt like the only thing I had to offer the world was my body, and if I got pregnant, what would that do to my body in a very selfish way?
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like this is my only value, and if I got pregnant or fat is kind of what I thought, like that would be horrible.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: I also um had convinced myself that the baby I was carrying was going to be really messed up because I had been drunk or high every single day since the night I had been raped, and um I really thought honestly, that that my genes and the genes of the father would create a monster.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I had myself convinced, I had myself thoroughly convinced of it.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: So um when I went to the abortion clinic, I was pretty, pretty convinced in my head that what I was doing was I was doing the world a favor.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and so when we got to the clinic, there were protesters outside.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: My best friend took me.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um and the protesters standing outside were holding graphic images and um you know signs that said you're going to hell.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: And they threw trash at us as we pulled in and they were screaming at me that I was a murderer and that I was going to hell.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: And um and as we got into the building, um I just felt an overwhelming sense of safety in the buildings because I was away from them, but also like I wanted to run back out and be like, I'm doing you a favor, like I'm not the kind of girl you want bringing child into this world.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: And um, my best friend did run back out and yelled very much at them, and then she came back in, and then she actually got an application to work at the abortion clinic because she was so appalled by the people standing out front.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so that was kind of my experience with people who are anti-abortion.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: And so then I considered myself very much pro-choice from then on.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um I ended up having an abortion and going back to school and um continued kind of to live a life of promiscuity and really objectifying myself.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: I like I worked at Hooters and just, you know, like I just very much kept believing that like my value, my worth, who I was in this world and my place was in what I look like and and um my body.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: And um that continued on for a long time, uh, into motherhood into having babies, because then my body was was good for that.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: It was good for having babies.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: And that was what my worth and where my value lied in.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: And so when I stopped having babies and stopped like breastfeeding and giving life and being magical, that was like a really intense, hard time for me.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: And it was a time when I really had to come to terms with my abortion and with what it had done to me, and was um the consequences of my spirit for that and my emotions and um the consequences of my that happened to my body because of it.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Right um, and I found Save the Storks, which is an organization that is dedicated to meeting the girl that I was in front of at abortion clinic, but being the safe place.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, being the place where you can go in and be loved unconditionally, where somebody will hug you and hold you and see you and like tell you the truth.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, like it I don't know if somebody would have told me like, let's look at your baby, let's see if you messed it up beyond compare, like beyond rescue with your drugs and your alcohol.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, like if somebody would have said, I see you and you have value and you have worth, and this baby has value and worth, and we want to help you, and we want to walk alongside you, like I feel like, well, I know my my story would be so much different now.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: And to have anybody to say to me that they saw me for more than for more than just a mess up or more than just a slut or more than just a body would have drastically changed my life at a at a pivotal moment.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so I want to be a part of somebody of an organization that does that.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's amazing.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: It is and there's a lot there between you having some of this revelation of the freedom you needed after you're done having babies and bring you know, giving life.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: So, what were some of the things that you know led to a point where you could reach out for healing?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like was there some people who came into your life and you got married, you have kids, and yeah.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: But and so that's a lot.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, sometimes that just continues to push you in the spiral, which you know, in a sense it did, but yeah, there's a lot there.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I so I married a man who because I objectified myself, I married a man who objectified women.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: And um he and I decided he decided he wanted to go back to church randomly.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I felt like that was very like, what?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's not we are not church people, that's not our thing.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: But like he really pushed the issue and we ended up finding this amazing church in South Carolina where we were living.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: And um I just by the second sermon, the pastor had me like just hooked.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: He would just sit on this like stool with like his hand in his pants and just like talk to everybody like we were having coffee with him.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: And uh he talked about just radical forgiveness and radical love and your worth and your value and where it lied, and it had nothing to do with what you did or what you didn't do, but it was all just about the fact that you're created in the image of an awesome God.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so um I we joined the church, I joined like 17 Bible studies.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: I like couldn't get a math of just learning.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was super hungry, and um and then when my husband and I started trying to get pregnant, we couldn't get pregnant.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: It took us a long time, and I felt like God was punishing me.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and um ended up speaking to a pastor there who explained, hey, that's not actually how God works.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so yeah, so no, um, and I ended up finding forgiveness, and I ended up being able to forgive myself and really believe that I was forgiven by God.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it didn't heal me.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right, like forgiveness is a huge step and it's a huge part, and I could forgive the people who hurt me, and I could understand that God forgave me, and I even reached a point where I could forgive myself.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I thought that that was healing, but that's not it wasn't actually healing.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's a step in the right direction, but it's not the complete, yeah.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, but it wasn't healing, and so um what ended up happening was that I ended up having a season, like two years of life that were just extreme.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like, have you ever had like a season of life where you're like, if literally one more thing happens, I just don't even know.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um so it was like we moved to Colorado, which was home for us, and so we were back home and we were super excited to be back.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but like right after we got back, my dad committed suicide.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: We gave birth to our fourth baby in five years.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I started a business.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um and my marriage very nearly fell apart.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: And um we had a miscarriage at 12 weeks of our fifth baby.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: And it just all happened like within this little two year window that um that really took its toll on me, on my body.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: And that's like it was super obvious.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was losing handfuls of hair.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like like I could like do this and like it would be like a whole handful of my hair.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: And um I was exhausted beyond reason.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't get I couldn't get till eleven o'clock.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Every day I would just be like, if I can just get to eleven o'clock and feed my kids, then I can go to sleep.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like I just every day live till 11 o'clock where I would feed my kids and then put them down for a nap and then go to sleep.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: And um and I went to a doctor and he was like, Oh yeah, of course you're tired.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: You have like a new baby.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: And like, yes, totally.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so I kind of live thinking I maybe I should be this tired.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe just brighten it.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: This is just normal.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: This is just normal.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then like my body started um swelling and hurting, like my joints would swell, I would be like sore all the time, but I wasn't working out.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um I after our miscarriage, I like I always gain all my weight like in the first trimester of pregnancy.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like 30 pounds in three weeks.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's like what I like do.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's awesome.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um we lost that baby at 12 weeks, and I never lost any of the weight I had gained.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um and yeah, like I just was a mess and I knew I was a mess.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so I went to a different doctor and she diagnosed me with all sorts of things.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: And um, but like sat and like listened to me and heard my story and heard what had been happening in my life.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: I had shingles, just all sorts of things were going on in my body, and she was like, You need like some help.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: And she said, I would really recommend yoga.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so then I started doing yoga at like the YMCA, and I thought, I don't think this is the kind of yoga she means.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: And then I found holy yoga, and I was like, This is the kind of yoga I need.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but so then I found uh yeah, I found yoga, I found oils, changed my diet, I learned to manage my stress and things like that.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: And it's been a three-year-long kind of healing journey for us, but um, that's really like where I began was when my when like my body could no longer function.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: Is when I realized I needed help.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that total crash, you hit rock bottom, and yeah, that you know, you realize okay, the only way out of here is somehow to get up.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so then yoga, and then sharing my story.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I was encouraged by a friend at MOPS to start sharing my story, and I did, and that's how I got hooked up with Save the Storks, and that has been really, really healing for me.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um especially the hearing back from women all the time.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: So, like we'll do um if I speak at a conference or um I do a podcast, I will I'll always get emails from women who have had abortions and never ever told anybody, including their husbands.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: I get um messages from women who have affairs and like don't tell anybody, but they are just like broken, you know, and that they believe that their only worth is in their body, or women who are experiencing all sorts of effects of trauma and don't realize their effects of trauma.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: So like they'll write and be like, Well, I was abused by an uncle for my whole childhood, but that I'm fine by that.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm fine, that's whatever, I'm fine, and then they'll later on be like, also I have an eating disorder.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yes, but those things are not separate.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: Those things are part of part of your whole, yeah, and those things, um, and the eating disorder can only be healed and handled, and you can only find um like rest from that if you deal with what happened before.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's really what I'm passionate about is helping women connect that their stories are still are important and things that happen to them matter.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: And to find healing from those things because we so often just want to shove it down and shove it down and shove it down and pretend like things are okay.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: And um your body will let you.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it will for a little bit, yeah, but not forever.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: It it always comes back.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: You touched on a little bit about the save the storks thing and that you got connected with them.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I I had never heard of this concept.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I've worked, I actually um I'm just trying to think how many years ago now, like um, anyway, a while back when right before I started having kids and then their their early years, I worked for a pregnancy center in Colorado France.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: And and it we were smack dab in the middle, um, very close um to the other clinics and that sort of thing.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so we were an alternative, but we weren't portable.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so we did, you know, the ultrasound and we had after after care for those who have had abortions and the aftercare if you choose to have your baby and uh keep your baby and I mean just all the things.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: So it was really amazing, but this concept of like taking it to the women, uh that's just incredible.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: Would you share a little bit more about that?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: It just it's really neat.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, if you go, so when I speak for them, I usually ask, like, how many people know what an abortion clinic is, right?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: And all the hands go up, and then I'll say, and how many people know what a pregnancy resource center is?
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: And people are like, Isn't that the same thing?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like people think they're the same thing, and they're they are not the same thing, obviously.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so say the storks kind of recognize that pregnancy resource centers are understaffed, they have no money, they are they aren't getting the recognition that they deserve in the public space because it's such a hot topic.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um and so they really wanted to be able to help pregnancy resource centers.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's like how it started was let's help pregnancy resource centers get out into their communities so that people know that they exist and know that they're not like gonna be shamed for walking in there, right?
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like that this is like a resource and that we want to love people and we want to love women and um and we're not so they started because I think that's the and we're not the haters, because I think that's the opposite like two you get where like one either you're you're you're taking life or you're hating, which yeah, there's the two alternatives.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and there's a middle, yes.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: And there is yeah, and so save the storks takes like the position, like we don't there's no picketing, we don't do any politicking, we don't do any of that stuff.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like we're like, that's whatever.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's not our we're staying out, we can do our thing without that.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right, exactly.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: We just want to do our thing so well that like then that becomes obsolete, right?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because it doesn't mean that it's legal or not legal, because we have loved women so well that nobody is, it's not even a thought in anybody's head.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so the goal is to have um a is to partner with pregnancy resource centers locally and to offer them um help with their marketing and things, but also to offer them these mobile medical units that are um these print, there's these Mercedes sprinter vans that are super cool.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like a leader genetic, right?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, they're so more amazing than any OB office I have ever been in.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, did you want it declare?
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, did they have one?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh well they showed a video, a video tour of one.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, gotcha.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: We could probably put in our show notes, right?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: A link to that.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that was awesome.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: And it's um, yeah, leather seats, like just it's nice.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: So um we have these mobile medical units, we park them anywhere.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: The thing about the Mercedes Sprinter Van is it's not so big that it can't go anywhere, right?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so it can park in any regular parking spot, which means we can go anywhere.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so we go to college campuses and we go to um abortion clinics.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: So we can get just in front of an abortion-minded woman and say, Hey, I know you're heading in there.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: I get it.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to offer you the opportunity to look at what's growing inside of you, to look at the baby.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: And um women often get on the bus, which to me was the most shocking part was that women like, but but I think I would have gotten on the bus.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: I was looking for an alternative.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't doing the thing I really wanted to do.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't like excited about my choice.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't like, so I think if somebody had offered me a kind handshake and looked me in my eyes and offered me to get on this bus, I think I probably would have as well.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you yeah, you said it before you were looking for a safe place.
• 31:50
  unknown: Yeah.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what that's what caught me so much about I mean, the way you told that story just made my heart hurt.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: That the people focused on saving the babies were the scary place.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's the safety you felt escaping that to go inside to the place.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, it's just that juxtaposition that the people that should have been the safe place were not in any way.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: I just think it's just amazing to me and the way you're describing this, and just to be the safe place and to be mother focused.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the thing is that a lot of people aren't mother focused, it's just save the babies.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's this woman standing in front of you.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: And you can't save the babies without saving the mother.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: You can't, so you have to be mother focused, I think, to do that.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so, anyway, sorry, I just interrupted, but that's okay.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just that whole the way you told that story about where the safe place was.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was like there's the problem right there.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: But, anyways, sorry, carry on.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, no, no, that's okay.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: So they invite women on, and women can on and they get a free ultrasound, and then they also um the women, the counselors on the bus will say, Here, I work for this pregnancy resource center.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: We're local in town.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: Here are all the things that we can offer to you.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: And um Save the Stork specifically partners with resource centers that they that offer, like care up to two years, um, free formula, diapers, a chance to go get clothes, um, budgeting classes to learn how to manage your finances, classes on how to do interviews to get new jobs, clothes for new job interviews, um, like partnering with you from like bottles to budgets to everything you need to improve your life and your standing um through the next two years, if you choose to keep your baby.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: And um and nine out of ten women who get on a historic bus choose to keep their babies, which is an incredible number.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but the thing is that even the one who gets off the bus and goes into the clinic and does that um comes back and meets the same counselor who says, like you are still worth loving.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't judge you.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: Come back on the bus.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let me show you the counseling that I have for you, let me help you with the way that your body is going to react to this.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think a lot of the conversation never goes back to what happens to your body after an abortion.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not like nobody ever talks about it, but like it is really traumatic for your body.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because all the hormones and the things that your body's been producing to keep this life going, and then the life just stops in incredibly quickly and immediately, and there's no like sort of gradual, like with a miscarriage, there's a gradual kind of decrease.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: And so, like, you're more susceptible to breast cancer, to cervical cancer, to having complications and all sorts of things.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: So um the woman back on the bus, the counselor says, like gives her all the information she's gonna need to like walk forward.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that that's my favorite part, yeah, is that is that we'll save the nine out of ten, but we'll also go back, right?
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like Jesus goes for the one and leaves the 99.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like we go back for the one and say, but we're still here, yeah, and we still want to help you, and we still want to be a part of your story in your life.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that that's that's the magic.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because because almost every woman is at least maybe even 20 years later gonna realize they need to deal with it, but why not have some of those pieces in place of that healing hand and you know that love offered immediately when they need it, you know, the most.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's beautiful.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is beautiful, yeah.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: I love the concept too, just like you talked about, they're partnering with the local you know, resource.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not just this, you know, like we drive in, drive out, you know, you're here today, gone tomorrow, but they actually plug you into something that has a long-term relationship.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: And the bus is is there, right?
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like forever.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_02: So once the resource center has the bus, then that bus stays there forever.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_02: So for example, our very first bus was in New Jersey, and the very first year it was um active, they just parked in front of the same abortion clinic every day for the whole year, and at the end of the year, that abortion clinic went out of business.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: So it just women are looking for an alternative.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: That is nobody's first choice.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nobody's first choice to have an abortion, nobody wants to do that.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: And um, so having an alternative and an alternative that's right there, and an alternative that is loving and caring and sees you as a human being is um power, it's powerful.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think to humanize the whole conversation is powerful.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of I mean, I get it, we want to save babies because it's you know it's a horrible thing, but at the same time t in order to do that, people are are dehumanizing women and acting like they're just selfish and you know, this is what they want, and really maybe they just need to feel supported because a lot of people actually don't have resources or they don't feel like they have the resources.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it is a moment of despair.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's not it's not just a selfish way, you know, uh uh of birth control, in other words, you know, oh, we're just trying to use this as birth control.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe that's not the picture.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: So to humanize it, I think it's just beautiful what y'all are doing.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, that's really awesome.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: So they started in New Jersey.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: How many now do they have around the US?
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so um the last numbers is that we had 27 active buses, but we have another 27 that are commissioned that are being done.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, and so and then the goal really is to have a bus for every clinic.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: What's that number?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: I would have no idea.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I should know big.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: They do.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right, because you don't because they just don't have the resources to like that off.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: They don't have the billboard and the and in the and the money backing from government, you know.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, that's well, that's awesome.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: I just love how many years has um saving the storks been doing their thing?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh since 2010, I want to say.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's not that long, really.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: And they've done a lot in that time.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that'll be a really clipping more.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh, yeah.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: I have to look at my it's been a while since I've given a talk for them, so I'm Craig.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, is that the right number?
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: I want to say 2010 or 2012, but early 2011.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow, so it really hasn't been long.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: And what do you mean by the 27th commission?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like they're about ready to launch or they're being made.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: They're like in the works, they're being crafted because it takes a lot.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like it takes a lot to completely get absolutely the van and put all of the product in there.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I think they've gotten some slack for the amount of money they put into making the vans look so incredible, but um, I think it's one of the more important parts of it.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's one of the more important personal use or anything.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I think it's important that when you invite, I mean, I'm sorry, if you're gonna invite a woman on the street to come into your van, yeah, not sketchy.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: Should look amazing, right?
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: Should look and she should feel special and she should be like, wow, like this is really nice.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: You were worth the effort of the money that went into this.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm worth this.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, obviously, because it takes so much money, you know, save the storks is I mean, it's completely like run by those who are giving and donating.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it's all a nonprofit.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, they're they're not making a million bucks, they're not using this for their personal personal use.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: They are truly saving lives, the mom and the baby, which right, and then just I mean, the the impact uh, you know, extending from that one reach is so powerful.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there's no way to get it.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: Where they get to be.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's really amazing.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: I know we'll leave a lot of this.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, go ahead.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say they take donations um in form in the form of like saving a stork.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, like if you would sponsor like sponsor, yes.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: Sponsor spark.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: You save a spark, and they give you like a picture of an ultrasound to hang on your fridge.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's awesome.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: So that you know, you people are like, what is why are you pregnant?
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: Are you pregnant?
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_02: And you could be like, Oh, I'm saving babies, you know.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so um it is$30 a month um to save a stork.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so great.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the name is really clever because unfortunately, animals sometimes get more attention than humans.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: So it's sad, but it's really clever.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's so clever, and you know, if you are out when I'm working with them and I have my Save the Storks gear on, it's really funny.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: The amount of people who are like, what?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: What's happening to the storks?
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's so funny.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know they were in danger.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had we have some extra company this week, and I was telling the kids, they're like, they're like, Who are you talking to?
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: Who do what kind of people are you having on your podcast today?
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was like, I have this lovely lady who works with the organization called Save the Storks, and they're like, What?
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: Storks?
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't have time to explain.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: How do you get a point?
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: My young kids are like, Mom, what is save the storks?
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm uh they're not quite, you know, yeah.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they get to the point, they're not quite ready to know why you're saving the storks, you know.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, oh just help moms and babies.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's right.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's beautiful.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: You're helping moms and babies, and you're, you know, doing this holy yoga.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: So the restoration, no matter what you have gone through, and whether you're a mom yet or or not, you know, just the power of all of that is is really, really beautiful.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so I want to, I'm just kind of curious because I mean, you have an amazing story and you get to share your story a lot.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and our our whole idea about Simply Wholehearted is is the fact that we're sharing really great stories of people who are doing this and who have a story to encourage and inspire others.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you still you have like that's not like the climax.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: You're still living your life.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: You're a mom of four kids.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: You talk about, you know, your adventure of like for sixth grade, taking your son to Boston and you know, doing all the things.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, what how do you live intentionally right now in the midst of sharing your message and sharing the holy yoga and you know, and raising four kids and and all, you know, and even like still walking out your healing journey.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: How do you what are some of the things that maybe like you have to overcome to do that in the day to day?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think that it's something that's a bit Really transformational for me personally in my healing journey is the concept of like radical self-care.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um I have radical self-care, not just self-care, radical.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um I have adrenal fatigue, which means um that like because I lived for so long in a good state of fire flight, that like my adrenals don't work the way that they're supposed to.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um and your adrenals regulate like all the things, all the things.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_02: All of the things in your body.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_02: So like so all the things can get really dysregulated for me.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: And like if I don't take care of myself, um I end up completely like paralyzed.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: So like right before we left for Boston, we like had a whole month where my son was waking up every single night with a bad dream and then like not going back to sleep.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so I had gotten like no sleep, and I know that I can't get no sleep.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I know that about myself.
• 45:08
  unknown: Yeah.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: And the day before we left, my whole body shut down.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: I was freezing cold, I couldn't get warm, I couldn't get a deep breath, my breathing was super shallow, I couldn't, um, my head was throbbing, my vision was blurred, my body ached.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like I just, and it was I had to go to bed for I had went to bed at 5 p.m.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: and woke up at 2 p.m.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: the next day.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: Whoa, yeah.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_02: And that's like what happens if I don't radically like take radical self-making.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: And make it important and make it a priority.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_02: And it look and not look at other people and be like, well, she can get so much work done.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: But like I have to go to bed at nine.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like I like I can't stay up till midnight the way that she can to do that stuff because like my body just won't let me.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: And um And probably for most of us, that is the better thing.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: So we don't ever get to that point.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_02: And and I think it's important for yeah, for everybody, you know, like so that you don't end up um having to like so I was I've been studying a lot about adrenals lately for my therapy class.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: And something that I learned that made me kind of bummed, but like that once you have like failure of your adrenals, like you don't ever get it back 100%.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like it'll be something like that you like have to manage forever.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's something I have to manage for forever.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: So don't like let yourself get to that point.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: Don't let yourself get to the point where it's causing autoimmune diseases and like wrecking your body.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_02: But I do I practice um Ayurveda is what it's called.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it is she's shaking her head like she knows.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: Kaylee was all into it for a while, but I just know it's kind of an like Indian type medicine or something, maybe not Indian, but that part of the world, Ayurvedic medicine.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's Easter.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's a sister science to yoga.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it's translated, it means life wisdom.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh it's been around for I don't know, like 4,000 years, right?
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: Right, forever.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: It is a way of taking care of yourself.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like prescribe to all of like the super like people reading your eyeballs and like that kind of stuff.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little woo for me, you know, like a little but they do have a way of like living that makes such sense that when like you learn about it, you're like, well, duh.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and and so um it's like I um when I take like a full shower, I get like I do like a full body oil massage before I get in the shower and like get into all my lymph nodes and like release all, you know what I mean?
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: And then and I um practice I have I use essential oils.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um I drink hot lemon water every morning when I wake up, regardless.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: I um do yoga every day, regardless.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_02: I um have a meditation practice.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um I usually do like a centering prayer, so um I'll just pick some words that that bring me close to God, you know, like love or um kindness or some patience, maybe if that's what I need.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: I just kind of repeat those throughout the day and and draw myself um my intention to those things throughout the day.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um I read my Bible and I make time for it.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like I wake up early in the morning so that not I actually don't read my Bible early in the morning.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: I wake up early in the morning and I read a book.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: I read at least 10 pages from a book.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I keep a gratitude journal.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: I read my Bible in the afternoons after lunch.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's the time for me that is the most um where I can get the most from it.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_02: I really have enjoyed studying the Bible in a new way.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um in like reading a passage and then turning it around and like really examining it, like really examining like who would have heard it from Jesus and what they would have been experiencing and like where it was and what it would have meant.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then um kind of diving deep, so not reading a lot of the Bible, but like really diving deep into pieces of the Bible has been really good for my faith.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_02: It gets kind of you can get kind of stale.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, absolutely.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so yeah, and so I that's I think radical self-care.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_02: And so then I don't get a lot of other things done, to be honest.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, that sounds like a lot.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's really well.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_02: I get done like what, you know, like I get to be uh here on your podcast and I'm at home.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and when I do travel, then like I'm then I can focus on it and be intentional and be present there.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not try very hard not to fill my plate up too much.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's really good.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: Which, you know, it's hard because you want to do all the things.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and you have a lot to offer, and so there's gonna be a lot of invitations.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just always learning what is the right invitation for this season of line.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's beautiful.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: Amber, I sure hope that we get to run into each other again.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I know I for some reason thought you were in Colorado.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: Where are y'all at?
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I was in Colorado, and that that's probably why we had the conversation is that I um I lived there for 11 years, and so and we I've lived in Kansas City for nine now, overnight.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh yeah, so I go back to Colorado often because there's family there.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: So high probability of running into each other.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: So we're at Kansas City.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_00: I am not from Kansas City or Colorado, as you can probably tell from my accent.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm from Alabama, yes, but yes from the South.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: From the South.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: I love the South.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: We lived in the South for many years.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: Where'd you live of South Carolina?
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: You were at Seacoast, weren't you?
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I taught there.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_02: I was worked there.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, cool.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's where I got saved.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: Seacoast.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I saw that.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_00: We were we were at a church in Alabama, Church of the Highlands in Alabama, and our pastors were big friends.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_00: The Seacoast and yeah, because they started ARC together.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: So we're part of ARC Church now.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they're my good friends from Colorado who started an ARK church, and then Ashley and her family heard about it, and so they came, and that's how we met.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: So one big ARK happened.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: One big ARC family, yes.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: That is so cool.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Greg Sarat.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't, I was trying, I can see his face.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_02: He sat on the stool with his hand in his pocket and told me all about Jesus and I was like, yeah.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: We visited there once when we were in town and we visited, and I could see his face, but I couldn't remember his name, so I'm glad you said it because it was bugging me.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so yeah, how fun.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's yeah.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_02: I got saved there and worked there as their director of their preschool ministry.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, fun.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: Look at this.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's all like such a small world.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: It is, isn't it?
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love it.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I hope you have a beautiful Mother's Day.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: You guys too.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: Happy Mother's Day.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, is that good to come out?
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is where we're we're gonna be sharing our message for Mother's Day.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'll delete that part.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'll edit that part out where I was confused.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was I totally.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: Happy Mother's Day.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'll just come in again.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, happy Mother's Day.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'll be a nice point break there.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of clueless.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: I just love I'm just here for decoration.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: Decoration?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: You need to like for stand down.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: Stand down.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: I do not want to ever hear that come from your mouth again for decoration.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: Can I ask you guys I heard your Enneagram part like?
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_02: Are you gonna do are you doing?
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: I am.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna do coaching.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_02: That is so fun.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: So what Enneagram number are you?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a nine.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: Really hard?
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a peacemaker.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: I see that.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I absolutely see that.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_02: What about you, but what are you doing?
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a four.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: She's a four.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a solid four.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a three with two really strong wings.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and apparently I've been flying on my four wing a little too much for some people in my life.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the melancholy has been overtaking me a little bit.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: So the weather.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that has not helped one bit.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's also what you talked about, um, radical self-care.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: I you know, I think it's it's just it it for a giver, because I have a very strong two-wing, and this is why I go back and forth because my two-wing takes over, and I say yes to all the things, and I want to help all the people, and I'm a doer, and so my three comes in and I'm taking over the world by helping all the people.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: And then I totally neglect myself when I crash and burn, and then the melancholy sweeps me away and um pushes everybody out of my life when I need them most.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why you need me.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: I can handle all that.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: You just bring your melancholy to me.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: We'll she loves it when I I love it when she has melancholy.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I am really excited.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_01: I um it's really interesting because the whole timing of all of it, again, it's like you know, the imitations will happen.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_01: So um, but I really I I love the concept of life coaching, and it's part of just kind of who I am.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um if I can say that without like being like No, it is it's just it's just it's what I like to do.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_01: I like so um so it's a real natural fit.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: And to be honest, just as you, you know, you're like, okay, how can I bring in income to my family?
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_01: So like that's real, and a podcasting doesn't bring income uh at this point in the game.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: So um so anyway, so I that's so sweet that you asked.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm curious, did you listen to the Enneagram coaching one?
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: Is the the two part?
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: Did you end up listening to that one?
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: I did listen to both of us, yeah.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_02: I love the Enneagram.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_02: I I like I love it, and I've looked into it too, but I'm my husband's like, listen, can you just do one thing right now?
• 56:05
  unknown: Yes.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_02: Can you stop taking all the classes and like actually use all those certifications that you keep getting to like do stuff?
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yes, I'll do that.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's one thing, maybe though.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I totally get it.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: I just feel like it's also married, right?
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like it somebody comes to me for healing trauma, and I want to know what number they are.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what makes a difference?
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: It does.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's important.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like those are things that like overlap, like to know how you are in stress will help me and like and you understand why you reacted the way you did and where you're holding it in your body, and how we can help you release it.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_02: And like I think that those things go go together.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: They do.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then then that whole piece of what is your heart long to hear, what's the message your heart longs to hear?
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so that I mean, when you that frees you up, that's like, oh, that's what I'm wanting to hear.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: And then the whole piece of like then you usually blame your the authority, the previous authority figures in your life for not giving you that.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_01: And so it can help you walk through forgiveness because we're probably holding unforgiveness towards them because they didn't meet that need, whether they intentionally did or didn't, or supposedly couldn't, but couldn't, yeah, because we can only get our needs back from Jesus.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_01: And my my focus, I would really love to do um the parent-child relationship.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: So you as a mom figuring out and how that influences your parenting style methods the way you need to parent, even like you talk about like there are those who need to have you know greater radical self-care, whether it's uh a physical need, it's sometimes a personality need to know what that looks like, and then how that connects to then your child and their Aneagram type.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I just think we can reach their hearts in a a more real, profound, impactful way and point them to Jesus in the process of like, hey, like because I love you and I can also speak your language now, I can show you, hey, Jesus over here is the only one who can really so I'm gonna fail that.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna do my best, but anyway, so that's kind of where I would love to go with it.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um I love that.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: So how do you um type your children?
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I is there like a way to do it?
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like the real test is a little too hard to it's too hard.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: So we've ta kind of taken them through the discussion stuff.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: My older two, the oldest one sat through most of the discovering you stuff and then the other one just was like, Mom, I just want you to type me.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, she's just like, let's get to the point.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_01: But um she so we, you know, took her through questions and stuff, and then the my youngest one, he's only gonna be eight this summer.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: So he he can answer some questions here or there with if if I'm not saying, hey, I'm trying to do this, you know, really for formally, so it's very informal.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: But um a lot of his because they're so honest as kids, you can get their motivations sometimes.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why did you so what was this about?
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: So for and all of that to say is my I'm pretty pretty confident that my oldest is a seven, my middle is a one, and they share a room, and it is difficult, and they're 14 months apart, and it is very difficult, and they are completely the opposite, and that is very difficult.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then my youngest is a three, like at this point what I can gather.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: So it's fascinating.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like this summer, so like a perfect story he this summer we were at the beach and we were able to get sand dollars out like from the ocean, and it was just super fun and cool.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: I had never experienced that, and so he saw this group of older kids just a little bit away from us, and they were finding like the starfish too, and the bigger sand dollars, and he saw one that he wanted from them and he uh befriended them and worked it in order to get that big sand dollar, and it totally worked.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: And he schmoozed, I mean, it was I was just like, oh my word, like and I I was just reading the book and I was just like, Is this is this show because I started realizing, oh, this is what he does.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_01: And um anyway, it was just kind of a fascinating, I mean, that just kind of showed his three, his ability to charm and influence and like you know, and it sounds terrible, but he was sort of using them.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: I I think he was like not on purpose, not like in a deceitful mean way, but like Yeah, he found it fascinating and he wanted to figure out one, how did they do that and could he have a part of what they were doing?
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I don't know, it's really kind of interesting.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: So so yeah, Enneagram, it is so fun.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_01: I could see you.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you, Amber.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, just and your story and being willing, because I uh it's it's not an easy thing to share.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I know it's gonna be.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think it gets easier to share when you just know that like that somebody is gonna hear it who needs it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right, you know, answered and so that's that is where I like really that's important to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then and then that I'm around.
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  SPEAKER_02: So like yeah, I'm around if anybody wants to needs to reach out.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm gonna email it.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I will definitely put contact info and all the show notes and all that, and then in my intro and exit talk about it as well for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and happy Mother's Day.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, happy Mother's Day.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, that'll be a clean and interesting editing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can edit the thing that you just fixed it, it just fixed this up.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can hit the end so that she could.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a whole section I can snip, and then it'll just be like, okay, we're wrapping up having others today.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to hear how this is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: I loved everything about this one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, so good.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's so nice.
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  SPEAKER_02: I so appreciate it.
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