Latest / Brian Thomas / Evendale Police Chief Tim Holloway -- 4/16/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, thirty three fifty five CASS City Talk Station. Normally
- 0:02Speaker 1: I'd say, hey, welcome back to the morning Show. iHeart
- 0:05Speaker 1: media aviation expert Jay Rathlup jays on vacation and my
- 0:08Speaker 1: next guest. He's a great guy. Chief Tim Holloway leads
- 0:11Speaker 1: even to a police department. He's throw an empower you
- 0:12Speaker 1: summon ar Tonight we're going to talk a little bit
- 0:14Speaker 1: ofou that and Chief kind enough to kick your slot
- 0:18Speaker 1: to the eight to thirty hours so we could talk
- 0:19Speaker 1: with vivig Ramaswami, who was the late edition on the
- 0:21Speaker 1: Morning Show. Thank you very much for that. But so
- 0:23Speaker 1: my friends know all about you. Thirty five years of
- 0:27Speaker 1: experience in law enforcement, patrol, investigations, drug enforcement supervision addition
- 0:33Speaker 1: to your regular duties, Chief Holloway's dedicated more than twenty
- 0:35Speaker 1: years as a member the Hamilton County Police Association SWAT Team.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Beyond that, first Vice President of the Hamilton County Police Association,
- 0:42Speaker 1: Vice par of the Shield Ohio as well as the
- 0:47Speaker 1: President of the Hamilton County Associations the Chiefs of Police,
- 0:50Speaker 1: and also chair of the Committee on Criminal Justice and
- 0:52Speaker 1: Public Safety for the Chiefs Association. Welcome to the fifty
- 0:56Speaker 1: five Kocy Morning Show, Chief Holloway, it's a pleasure to
- 0:58Speaker 1: have you on today.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And perfect topic. I you know, every single day, Chief Holloway,
- 1:06Speaker 1: not just telling you anything. You don't know, these massive
- 1:09Speaker 1: outbreaks of youths. They get together on social media, they
- 1:13Speaker 1: do a takeover, they get end up getting in fights,
- 1:15Speaker 1: they block streets, engage in terrible conduct, and I just
- 1:19Speaker 1: I feel very diffic very sorry for law enforcement trying
- 1:22Speaker 1: to deal with this. Not only do we have the
- 1:24Speaker 1: woke realities going on in downtown Cincinnati where they don't
- 1:27Speaker 1: want to arrest anybody, but we're broadly speaking, this has
- 1:30Speaker 1: become a growing challenge for law enforcement. How do you
- 1:33Speaker 1: respond to it? And what are you gonna be talking
- 1:34Speaker 1: about tonight in your class?
- 1:37Speaker 3: You know, Brian, We're gonna I'm gonna kind of walk
- 1:39Speaker 3: everybody through what is the criminals system and how do
- 1:44Speaker 3: we or how do we get to where we are
- 1:46Speaker 3: and what do we do to try and improve it
- 1:48Speaker 3: to address issues like you just brought up. You know,
- 1:51Speaker 3: public safety isn't just an issue for police officers or
- 1:54Speaker 3: prosecutors or courts or legislators. It's a bit for everybody,
- 1:58Speaker 3: and you know, power you America. Their mada there is
- 2:03Speaker 3: educate and and join engage, And I hope tonight could
- 2:06Speaker 3: educate everybody, do it an enjoyable way, and hopefully motivate
- 2:10Speaker 3: them to engage. And I think by understanding how each
- 2:15Speaker 3: part of the criminal just system works. Don't know where
- 2:18Speaker 3: to engage and where to exact leverage and who to
- 2:21Speaker 3: express our opinions to.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Well, the ones responsible for the criminal justice system. Of course,
- 2:26Speaker 1: we have law enforcement officers doing the arresting and gathering evidence.
- 2:29Speaker 1: We have prosecutors taking the evidence of prosecuting cases, and
- 2:32Speaker 1: of course we have judges who are responsible for bonds
- 2:34Speaker 1: and meeting out sentence. Somewhere along the line, the collective there,
- 2:38Speaker 1: with the exceptional law enforcement, I might note, has decided
- 2:41Speaker 1: they want to kick the critical leg, the most important
- 2:43Speaker 1: leg of the criminal justice system, out from under it,
- 2:46Speaker 1: which is punishment. Punishments which act as a deterrence a
- 2:50Speaker 1: cautionary tale. Don't do what Johnny did. Look what happened
- 2:53Speaker 1: to Johnny. He got arrested, he went to jail or juvenile,
- 2:56Speaker 1: He's got a record. Now bad. Don't do that. I mean,
- 2:59Speaker 1: isn't that the same simplest reality enforce the punishment component
- 3:02Speaker 1: of the justice system.
- 3:05Speaker 3: You know, when we started this committee last year in
- 3:09Speaker 3: response to some of the high profile incidents, we were
- 3:12Speaker 3: going to focus on three topics. That was accountability, cooperation,
- 3:16Speaker 3: and transparency. And we're making some headway on the cooperation
- 3:21Speaker 3: and transparency, and we still have a lot of work
- 3:23Speaker 3: to do on accountability. We have law enforcement. When we
- 3:26Speaker 3: met with some of these other partners in the system,
- 3:29Speaker 3: we acknowledge some of our faults and we still do
- 3:32Speaker 3: and we've met with the judges in order to.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Try and get them better information.
- 3:38Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it is a
- 3:40Speaker 3: judge that passes out a sentence and it's a.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Judge that issues bonds.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Well in a world full of again, not trying to
- 3:46Speaker 1: insult anybody. Low information voters the lowest information, and this
- 3:50Speaker 1: even hits people who follow politics closely. Which judges do
- 3:54Speaker 1: I vote for? I mean, elections have serious consequences. But
- 3:58Speaker 1: if you have an understanding of a judges percon of
- 4:00Speaker 1: law enforcements, some are woke and ideologus and others are
- 4:04Speaker 1: harsh on a strong on crime and understand the nature
- 4:07Speaker 1: of the criminal justice system. It's so important that we
- 4:10Speaker 1: get information about the judges as we go into primaries
- 4:13Speaker 1: and the election. I'm not sure how to overcome the
- 4:15Speaker 1: hurdle of the lack of information that's out there, you know.
- 4:21Speaker 3: That's one of the things we're working with the Accountability
- 4:23Speaker 3: and Transparency is to find a way to track the
- 4:28Speaker 3: information right now. One of the things we discovered is
- 4:32Speaker 3: the Hamil County criminal just system has not changed a
- 4:34Speaker 3: lot since I first start working at it in nineteen
- 4:36Speaker 3: ninety one. When you go down to the courthouse, everything
- 4:39Speaker 3: is done by paper, and when you go into court
- 4:41Speaker 3: room may in the morning, you have people from three
- 4:44Speaker 3: or four different county departments writing down their own handwritten notes.
- 4:48Speaker 3: And if a voter wants to look and see what's
- 4:52Speaker 3: the average bond that a judge issues on a fellony
- 4:55Speaker 3: three for a particular judge, there is absolutely.
- 4:59Speaker 2: No way to do that.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Somebody would have to do public records requests for all
- 5:03Speaker 3: the handwritten judge sheets and then collate their own.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Database, and that's a daunting task. And trying to find.
- 5:11Speaker 3: A way to track defendants and track how the system
- 5:17Speaker 3: works and what's working and what's not working is one
- 5:19Speaker 3: of our goals.
- 5:20Speaker 1: That is an outstanding suggestion. I imagine with artificial intelligence
- 5:24Speaker 1: these days, and you can easily accomplish finding out the
- 5:28Speaker 1: judges records on pretty much any given statistic. That would
- 5:31Speaker 1: be great information for my listeners and me to know
- 5:33Speaker 1: about when we go into the voting booth.
- 5:35Speaker 2: That's terrific. Well, I hope we can get that done, Brian.
- 5:40Speaker 3: And this is a tall task, and when the Chief
- 5:42Speaker 3: Association started this.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Committee last year, we agreed that this was not a
- 5:48Speaker 2: six month flash in the pan. We're going to make
- 5:52Speaker 2: a public statement or two and pad on the table now.
- 5:55Speaker 3: We committed to doing this for years and we're working
- 5:59Speaker 3: with everybody, with.
- 6:00Speaker 2: The judges, Prosecutor's office trying to get probation and parole
- 6:03Speaker 2: to the table.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Met several times with the legislators you had warned Davidson
- 6:07Speaker 3: on earlier.
- 6:08Speaker 2: We met with him.
- 6:10Speaker 3: We met with the Attorney General, Daveyos from here in Ohio.
- 6:15Speaker 3: We've had some discussions with the University of Cincinnati for
- 6:18Speaker 3: some of the.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Data gathering and collating that data.
- 6:23Speaker 3: So it's a big task, but we're not gonna let
- 6:27Speaker 3: up on it.
- 6:28Speaker 1: And I'm glad to hear that because it seems to
- 6:30Speaker 1: me that everyone has really concerned about crime and public safety.
- 6:34Speaker 1: This is not a political issue from my perspective. I
- 6:37Speaker 1: don't think anybody in any given neighborhood is against the
- 6:40Speaker 1: idea of living in a safe neighborhood, which of course
- 6:43Speaker 1: includes law enforcement presence. So I think you're on a
- 6:46Speaker 1: role here. The time is appropriate for some reforms. I
- 6:48Speaker 1: know you're gonna be talking about them tonight, and I'm
- 6:50Speaker 1: going to encourage my listeners to either log in from
- 6:52Speaker 1: home from empower Youamerica dot org or show up to
- 6:56Speaker 1: hear you speak live at Scarlett Oaks Campus, three hundred
- 6:58Speaker 1: Scarlett Oaks Drive at the empower Use Studio.
- 7:01Speaker 2: It's great having on.
- 7:02Speaker 1: I'm glad you're willing to do this, sir. It's I
- 7:04Speaker 1: think it's going to be very informative and I wish
- 7:06Speaker 1: you all the best and bringing about some of these reforms.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Chief Holloway, Brian, I really appreciate the imitating from now
- 7:13Speaker 3: empower You appreciate your invitation be on the radio, and
- 7:16Speaker 3: I hope people engage on this well.
- 7:18Speaker 1: My pleasure on behalf of my entire listening audience myself.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Thank you for your dedication and commitment to public safety
- 7:24Speaker 1: and your career in law enforcement. I know it means
- 7:26Speaker 1: a lot to folks. And keep up the great work, sir.
- 7:30Speaker 2: All right, Thank you Brian, Thank.
- 7:31Speaker 1: You, Chief Holloway. Empower Youamerica dot org is place to be.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Stick around, folks. Got a little bit more time, Sean
- 7:38Speaker 1: can Ope up the phone lunch. You have a comment
- 7:39Speaker 1: you want to make. I'd love to hear from you
- 7:41Speaker 1: this morning. I'll be right back. Fifty five KYRC. We
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