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Secrets and Opposite-Sex Friends (4 Laws of Love Series) - 201 · Marriage Life and More and Bible Study

• 0:04
  Daniel Moore: So it just bounced off the wall.
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  Daniel Moore: Anytime I tried to say anything to you, you wouldn't listen to me for anything.
• 0:10
  Michelle Moore: No, and I was mean.
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  Michelle Moore: There was a side of me that came out that I didn't even know, because the one person that I thought I was madly in love with we had been through so many things love with, we had been through so many things, and I think what capped it completely off was the baby issue.
• 0:31
  Michelle Moore: And you know, and I didn't even know, and that's the reason why it's so important to guard our hearts and guard our minds, because I let stuff in that I did not realize how much it took root.
• 0:44
  Daniel Moore: Right this week on Connecting the Gap, we continue our new series that we have started with my wife, michelle and myself the Four Laws of Love.
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  Daniel Moore: This will be episode two of that series.
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  Daniel Moore: We'll be back to get into that right after this.
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  Daniel Moore: I can't sleep in love with nobody but you for all my life.
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  Daniel Moore: When you're with me, baby, the skies will be blue for all my life.
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  Daniel Moore: Welcome to Connecting the Gap.
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  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore, your host.
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  Daniel Moore: Thank you, guys, for joining us this week.
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• 2:41
  Daniel Moore: So, again this week, we're going to be continuing our series on the four laws of love, and I have my wife, michelle, sitting in here with me for this series.
• 2:52
  Michelle Moore: Hey guys, I'm back again.
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  Daniel Moore: That is her sitting right over there in that chair and she's ready to roll.
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  Daniel Moore: So we're going to go ahead and get into episode two of this series on the four laws of love.
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  Daniel Moore: During a seminar, a woman asked how do I know if I am with the right person?
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  Daniel Moore: Well, the author then noticed that there was a large man sitting next to her.
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  Daniel Moore: So he said it depends.
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  Daniel Moore: Is that your partner?
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  Daniel Moore: In all seriousness, she answered.
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  Daniel Moore: How do you know?
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  Daniel Moore: Let me answer this question, because the chances are good that it's weighing on your mind, replied the author.
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  Daniel Moore: Here's the answer.
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  Daniel Moore: Every relationship has a cycle.
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  Daniel Moore: In the beginning you fall in love with your partner.
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  Daniel Moore: You anticipate their calls, want their touch and like their idiosynocracies.
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  Daniel Moore: Falling in love wasn't hard.
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  Daniel Moore: In fact it was a completely natural and spontaneous experience.
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  Daniel Moore: You didn't really have to do anything.
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  Daniel Moore: That's why it's called falling in love.
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  Daniel Moore: People in love sometimes say I was swept off my feet.
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  Daniel Moore: I mean picture the expression.
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  Daniel Moore: It implies that you were just standing there doing nothing and then something happened to you.
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  Daniel Moore: Falling in love is a passive and spontaneous experience, but after a few months or years of being together, the euphoria of love fades.
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  Daniel Moore: It's a natural cycle of every relationship.
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  Daniel Moore: Slowly but surely, phone calls become a bother, if they come at all.
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  Daniel Moore: Touch is not always welcome when it happens, and your spouse's idiosynocracies, instead of being cute, drive you absolutely nuts.
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  Daniel Moore: The symptoms of this stage vary with every relationship.
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  Daniel Moore: You will notice a dramatic difference between the initial stage, when you were in love, and a much duller, or even angry, subsequent stage.
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  Daniel Moore: At this point you and your partner might be asking am I with the right person?
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  Daniel Moore: And as you reflect on the euphoria of the love you once had, you may begin to desire that experience with someone else.
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  Daniel Moore: This is when relationships break down.
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  Daniel Moore: The key to succeeding in a relationship is not finding the right person, it's learning how to love the person that you have found.
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  Daniel Moore: People blame their partners for their unhappiness and look outside for fulfillment.
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  Daniel Moore: Extramarital fulfillment comes in all shapes and sizes.
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  Daniel Moore: Infidelity is the most common, but sometimes people turn to work a hobby, friendship, excessive TV or abusive substances.
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  Daniel Moore: But the answer to this dilemma does not lie outside your relationship.
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  Daniel Moore: It lies within it.
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  Daniel Moore: I'm not saying that you couldn't fall in love with someone else.
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  Daniel Moore: You could, and temporarily you'd feel better.
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  Daniel Moore: But you'd be in the same situation a few years later.
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  Daniel Moore: Because you need to listen really carefully to this.
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  Daniel Moore: The key to succeeding in a relationship is not finding the right person.
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  Daniel Moore: It's learning to love the person that you found.
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  Daniel Moore: Sustaining love is not a passive or spontaneous experience.
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  Daniel Moore: You have to work on it day in and day out.
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  Daniel Moore: It takes time, effort and energy and, most importantly, it demands wisdom.
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  Daniel Moore: You have to know what to do to make it work.
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  Daniel Moore: Make no mistake about it.
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  Daniel Moore: Love is not a mystery.
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  Daniel Moore: There are specific things you can do with or without your partner.
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  Daniel Moore: Just as there are physical laws of the universe, such as gravity, there are also laws for relationships.
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  Daniel Moore: If you know how to apply these laws, the results are predictable.
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  Daniel Moore: Love is therefore a decision.
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  Daniel Moore: It's not just a feeling.
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  Daniel Moore: Remember this always God determines who walks into your life.
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  Daniel Moore: It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay and who you refuse to let go.
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  Daniel Moore: I wanted to open with that this week because there were some pretty profound statements in that.
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  Daniel Moore: A lot of truth there, I think, in how the cycle of marriage actually goes.
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  Daniel Moore: And we always watch Disney and we watch Hallmark movies and we see the perfect look of what we think marriage looks like it should be and everything.
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  Daniel Moore: But in all reality.
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  Daniel Moore: Life's not a Hallmark movie.
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  Michelle Moore: No.
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  Daniel Moore: And life's not a Disney movie we get to a point where that initial love does fade off and we have to learn at that point how to tolerate each other it's probably the best way to put that but to tolerate each other in a good manner where we can still build that love, knowing that that other person has flaws and knowing that that person has imperfections.
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  Daniel Moore: We have to learn how to still build the love even through all of that and make our relationship grow even tighter.
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  Daniel Moore: So this week, as we get started with this week's episode, we're going to be talking about something that is a term that everybody out there really needs to become acquainted with, and this term will help you understand the importance of rightly prioritizing marriage.
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  Daniel Moore: As we are still talking on the law of priority here in this episode this week on Connecting the Gap, that term that you need to become familiar with is called legitimate jealousy.
• 8:32
  Daniel Moore: You're probably thinking how do you put legitimate jealousy together?
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  Daniel Moore: That makes no sense, because jealousy a lot of times when we think of that word, we think of it in a negative way, because we're not really supposed to be jealous.
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  Daniel Moore: That's just not something we're supposed to be.
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  Daniel Moore: However, legitimate jealousy in marriage is the feeling of protectiveness and possessiveness that arises when we feel threatened by a potential rival or when we perceive a breach of trust in our relationship.
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  Daniel Moore: As an example of this is someone coming and trying to seduce your mate and take them away from you.
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  Daniel Moore: So I'm going to give a scenario here.
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  Daniel Moore: I have a friend that's a girl and I'm married to you and she's a really good friend of mine and I want to bring her into our relationship as a best friend.
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  Daniel Moore: But you're not going to know a lot of the conversations that we're going to have.
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  Daniel Moore: You're not going to know a lot of the things that we're going to talk about, but I'm still going to nurture that relationship and try to keep her in that relationship.
• 9:39
  Michelle Moore: Are you okay with that?
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  Michelle Moore: No, I would punch you in the face.
• 9:42
  Michelle Moore: Just kidding, I always say that to you.
• 9:44
  Michelle Moore: No, she's very violent.
• 9:44
  Daniel Moore: No, I would punch you in the face, just kidding.
• 9:46
  Daniel Moore: I always say that to you.
• 9:47
  Michelle Moore: No, she's very violent.
• 9:48
  Michelle Moore: No, I'm not.
• 9:49
  Michelle Moore: No, I'm not okay with that and we weren't okay with that.
• 9:54
  Daniel Moore: No, because I did that yes.
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  Daniel Moore: So if you listen to the episode, a couple episodes ago we gave our testimony.
• 10:02
  Daniel Moore: I was married for I think six or seven years.
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  Daniel Moore: I always can't remember the first time how long I was married, I think it was somewhere in there.
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  Daniel Moore: But then I was single for about five years and while I was single I dated around, obviously, but until Michelle and I got together and ended up getting married.
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  Daniel Moore: And this is also another cycle thing, because at the end of last week's episode we kind of mentioned how the generational curse type of thing, how that can continue into your other marriages, even from where your parents were at.
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  Daniel Moore: In my first marriage I had girlfriends that were friends of mine in that marriage that I did not tell my first wife about.
• 10:47
  Daniel Moore: I kind of kept them hidden because I figured she wouldn't approve of that and she would be upset with that or whatever.
• 10:55
  Michelle Moore: When he says girlfriends, it's actually Friends that are girls.
• 10:58
  Daniel Moore: Yes, right, not the other way around, but they were just close friends that were female.
• 11:04
  Daniel Moore: Let's put it that way, uh, but I knew that.
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  Daniel Moore: I still, though, was smart enough to know that was probably not a thing I should have been doing, so I had a tendency to hide that, okay.
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  Daniel Moore: So then, when I was single, I went through five years of not having to answer to anybody.
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  Daniel Moore: I, you know, dated a few different girls during that time span, and some of them that I ended up not you know, dated a few different girls during that time span, and some of them that I ended up, not you know, staying with in a relationship or whatever, still considered them friends.
• 11:32
  Daniel Moore: I came into the marriage with Michelle, and stupid me didn't even try to fix none of that.
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  Daniel Moore: I decided that I had a girl that I dated just for a short period of time when I was single.
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  Daniel Moore: We were, at that point, just friends, and I decided to keep her as a friend, coming into our relationship and something that Michelle didn't really know about for the longest time.
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  Daniel Moore: She knew about her, michelle knew who she was, and she knew the story of when I was single and everything, and she knew the story of when I was single and everything, but you did not know that I was still hanging on to that friendship, necessarily in the way that I was.
• 12:10
  Michelle Moore: I asked you not to you know to be talking to anybody else.
• 12:14
  Michelle Moore: Right, and so during that time when you finally did find out that I was having that friendship from the female side of things, how did that make you feel?
• 12:28
  Michelle Moore: Oh, my goodness, I was so hurt, angry.
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  Michelle Moore: I had a lot of angry over, not say angry.
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  Michelle Moore: I was very, very hurt at the fact that you spoke to somebody else and you weren't speaking to me because you didn't really communicate at that time, like so, I didn't even realize that the fact that you were still talking to her and that's, I think, the first time I I threw the phone at you I mean, literally, I got so angry at the fact that you were doing that.
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  Daniel Moore: Yeah.
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  Daniel Moore: So you're probably sitting there thinking, well, I can, I can divide between the two.
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  Daniel Moore: I can have a friend that's a girl if I'm a guy.
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  Daniel Moore: Or you know, I'm married and I'm a woman and I've got guys that are friends.
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  Daniel Moore: Okay, I'll give you a little bit there, maybe that maybe you possibly can in your scenario, because I'm not there.
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  Daniel Moore: I don't know exactly what kind of a relationship you have between you and your spouse and your friends, but I will tell you that what ends up happening most generally is if marital problems come up arguments, disagreements, whatever it may be.
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  Daniel Moore: As we talked about in the last episode, it was our parents that we would bounce off of If we're not careful.
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  Daniel Moore: We'd let our parents become an interference.
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  Daniel Moore: Well, if you have a best friend that's of the opposite sex, what ends up happening there?
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  Daniel Moore: There are things when you and I would argue and fight over things we would not.
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  Daniel Moore: As you said, the communication was not there.
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  Daniel Moore: That was a problem initially in our marriage from the very beginning.
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  Daniel Moore: That got worse as time went along.
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  Daniel Moore: I'm not going to talk.
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  Daniel Moore: I didn't talk to you about my problems.
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  Michelle Moore: No.
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  Daniel Moore: But there were times that I talked to her about the problems and that's a very dangerous place to be because there's emotional issues there that if you do confide in the opposite sex like that, that can sprout into a relationship Absolutely.
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  Daniel Moore: If you're not careful, yep, that that can sprout into a relationship.
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  Daniel Moore: Absolutely, if you're not careful.
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  Daniel Moore: Having a guy friend that a guy can bounce problems off of, or a spouse, a female spouse, having a girlfriend to bounce things off of, that's still probably not real healthy because you need to be talking to each other, obviously.
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  Daniel Moore: But at least in that situation, that scenario, there's not going to be an issue that you're going to run off with your guy best friend.
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  Daniel Moore: The guy or the female is going to run off.
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  Daniel Moore: That's not going to be the issue there.
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  Daniel Moore: But when you have an opposite sex friend involved, it's real easy for especially if it's a guy to a girl, that girl can become emotionally involved in those problems.
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  Daniel Moore: Of course they're seeing one side of the story, so they're going to take your side and that's just going to make it even worse because then they're going to feel sorry for you.
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  Daniel Moore: They're going to want to try to start getting involved, to making you feel better.
• 15:18
  Daniel Moore: And we don't have to get in too deep to this.
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  Daniel Moore: You can see where this goes.
• 15:22
  Daniel Moore: It just keeps escalating and escalating because I mean, that's how affairs start and you know, with Michelle's side of things, when we talked about our testimony, you know, eventually our marriage crumbled to the point where you had a guy friend that you started confiding in and that led into an affair.
• 15:44
  Daniel Moore: That you started confiding in and that led into an affair, and so there's nothing good about keeping that opposite sex involved, and so that's where this legitimate jealousy comes in.
• 15:56
  Daniel Moore: Legitimate jealousy is the righteous emotion that causes us to protect what is rightfully ours.
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  Daniel Moore: Whenever we get married, we should be possessive of that relationship, that relationship between Michelle and I.
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  Daniel Moore: That's our relationship.
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  Daniel Moore: That's nobody else's God's in the middle of it, but that is mine and her relationship, and that rightfully belongs to each of us, from both sides.
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  Daniel Moore: It's important to recognize and address legitimate jealousy in a constructive manner, though, and of course this entails that big, nasty word communication with your partner about your feelings, concerns and boundaries.
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  Daniel Moore: It also requires a willingness to trust and a lot of people have trust issues and being vulnerable with each other.
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  Daniel Moore: That's also difficult a lot of times as well as the commitment to working through any issues that may arise.
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  Daniel Moore: So explain how it will be hard to address legitimate jealousy without communication or trust, being vulnerable.
• 16:57
  Daniel Moore: How hard is it to address that kind of thing if we're not communicating?
• 17:01
  Michelle Moore: Well you can address legitimate jealousy without communication communicating.
• 17:05
  Michelle Moore: Well, you can address legitimate jealousy without communication.
• 17:07
  Michelle Moore: As we said, it's important to recognize and address legitimate jealousy in a constructive manner, opens communication with your partner.
• 17:13
  Michelle Moore: You have to have that communication.
• 17:16
  Michelle Moore: That's the only way to do it.
• 17:19
  Daniel Moore: And I'm not sure, you know, I can look back over 20 years ago when you got married.
• 17:26
  Daniel Moore: That's a long time to remember, but I've tried to think a few times.
• 17:30
  Daniel Moore: You know, I really I really still don't really understand why I didn't communicate like I should have, because I I knew that we should.
• 17:42
  Michelle Moore: I mean, I knew that.
• 17:43
  Michelle Moore: Well, what's what's weird is, we were best friends.
• 17:46
  Daniel Moore: We were yeah.
• 17:47
  Michelle Moore: But once we got married it was like our best friends kind of stopped, Like I think it's just life in general because we got so busy and did we truly really know each other.
• 17:58
  Michelle Moore: Like, living day to day is a lot different than just talking to someone and them.
• 18:03
  Michelle Moore: Being your best friend, Right is a lot different than just talking to someone and them being your best friend, and so I mean, I think a lot of that, and I think we started off kind of just.
• 18:09
  Michelle Moore: I put you on a pedestal and I shouldn't have put you on a pedestal, and once you hurt me, it was kind of I started shutting down a little bit.
• 18:18
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and honestly, there's not nothing wrong, probably, with putting your spouse on a pedestal, but it needs to go both ways.
• 18:27
  Daniel Moore: Both spouses should look at each other that way, because obviously you should be my top, most priority.
• 18:35
  Michelle Moore: We'll go back to the priorities.
• 18:38
  Daniel Moore: Right, yeah, and so if you would have been on a pedestal in my life, you putting me in your pedestal, it should have worked together.
• 18:46
  Michelle Moore: Right.
• 18:46
  Daniel Moore: We should have been each other's pedestal, so it should have worked out fine, but obviously there was a breakdown there and that did not happen, and so that did.
• 18:55
  Daniel Moore: That created a lot of issues.
• 18:56
  Daniel Moore: Now, when we talk about this legitimate jealousy thing, this is not a green card to just run over somebody and control their life.
• 19:07
  Daniel Moore: That's not what we're saying here at all.
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  Daniel Moore: It's essential to remember that legitimate jealousy is not about controlling or possessing your partner.
• 19:15
  Daniel Moore: It's rather about valuing and protecting your relationship.
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  Daniel Moore: That's something completely different.
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  Daniel Moore: By acknowledging and addressing these feelings in a healthy way, you can strengthen the bond between you and your partner and create a more secure and fulfilling marriage.
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  Daniel Moore: But you have to want to do it Right.
• 19:32
  Daniel Moore: That desire has to be there and you've got to want to make that your priority.
• 19:35
  Daniel Moore: So if we approach this topic legitimate jealousy thing the wrong way, what ends up happening?
• 19:44
  Daniel Moore: And I actually know people that have done this in their marriages they get so untrusting of their partner that they'll go put spyware on their phone.
• 19:54
  Daniel Moore: They'll demand that they call in every two hours telling them where they are at, what they are doing, who they're talking to.
• 20:01
  Daniel Moore: I mean, they just start hovering over the top of that person.
• 20:05
  Daniel Moore: And is that healthy?
• 20:08
  Michelle Moore: No, I mean, if you really think about it, jealousy usually leads people to act out in ways that can be harmful to themselves or others.
• 20:19
  Michelle Moore: I mean, and you think about it, there could be a situation of jealousy of the fact that the man doesn't want the woman to have any friends To where it leads to having no self-worth or no self-confidence.
• 20:35
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and it will run friends away.
• 20:37
  Michelle Moore: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Daniel Moore: We know people too that's had situations where they had no friends because their spouse didn't allow them to have any.
• 20:49
  Michelle Moore: Because they were so worried that something was going to take time from them, or they just didn't want them to be around somebody more than what they were.
• 20:53
  Michelle Moore: You know, and I just like I said, it leads people to act out Like you.
• 20:58
  Michelle Moore: Just do things that you shouldn't be doing if you do not have a healthy, legitimate jealousy.
• 21:04
  Daniel Moore: Right, and so we have to remember that both of us are on the same plane.
• 21:09
  Daniel Moore: We're both on the same level.
• 21:10
  Daniel Moore: Your life is just as important as mine.
• 21:14
  Daniel Moore: You're just as much of an important person in the relationship as I am.
• 21:17
  Daniel Moore: Any decision that we make, any mistakes that we make, we both take those together and we hash those things out.
• 21:27
  Daniel Moore: That's right.
• 21:27
  Daniel Moore: I don't push myself over the top of you and you don't push yourself over the top of me, because we're both equal in this relationship and if there's a problem where you can't trust somebody because of something that you feel like is going on, I have to say I think that comes back to a communication problem, because if you feel like that there's something taking place that you're not aware of, or maybe that person has done something that's breached your trust a little bit and, for whatever reason, you two still haven't been able to fix that, you have to talk about it and hash it out.
• 22:03
  Daniel Moore: You're going to have to figure out where each other's at, not in a controlling manner like not this.
• 22:10
  Daniel Moore: I'm going to make you call me every two hours and tell me who you're with and who you're talking to and where you're at, and put a GPS tracker on your iPhone so I can log in every time I want to and see where you are.
• 22:20
  Daniel Moore: That's not what I'm talking about here.
• 22:22
  Daniel Moore: It needs to be communication, and you guys need to get to the root of what's causing this distrust and these issues that's going on in your marriage.
• 22:30
  Daniel Moore: You have to get to the bottom of that.
• 22:32
  Daniel Moore: Furthermore, prioritizing marriage also involves setting boundaries.
• 22:37
  Daniel Moore: You need to make time for each other and nurture the relationship through love and care.
• 22:42
  Daniel Moore: It's important to prioritize your marriage above other obligations and distractions, as your relationship with your partner is a sacred and significant aspect of your life.
• 22:51
  Daniel Moore: So, if you go to the Webster's Dictionary, jealousy is defined as intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness.
• 23:01
  Daniel Moore: There's a spiritual aspect to marriage that goes beyond just a legal or emotional commitment.
• 23:05
  Daniel Moore: It's often said that God plays a role in bringing two people together in marriage and that there is a divine connection between spouses that transcends human understanding.
• 23:16
  Daniel Moore: This spiritual bond is what makes us intuitively know that our spouses belong to us before anyone else except God.
• 23:25
  Daniel Moore: That's the priority that God wants us to put on our relationships.
• 23:29
  Daniel Moore: He wants us to understand that the two of us belonged to each other when we sealed that covenant and we said I do, and then God puts the stamp on that and he stays right in the middle of it.
• 23:40
  Daniel Moore: We should use Him to help regulate these problems and issues that we get into.
• 23:45
  Daniel Moore: So in the spiritual sense, marriage is seen as a sacred covenant between two individuals that is ordained by God.
• 23:51
  Daniel Moore: This understanding can create a sense of ownership and exclusivity in the relationship, as spouses are seen as belonging to each other in a deep and awesome way.
• 24:02
  Daniel Moore: I love that so if our marriages are ordained by God and or if our spouses are soulmates, what positive effect does that have on our marriage?
• 24:13
  Michelle Moore: Well, if you really think about it, the marriage is going to experience spiritual growth, mutual support and faith and etc.
• 24:20
  Michelle Moore: I mean, if you really think about of I mean growing together, not only the spiritual growth, but becoming one, and it devolves into the fact that if you're a husband and wife, you're going to go to church and then your children they're going to grow up.
• 24:37
  Daniel Moore: I mean there's just multiple things that can be great from that Right, great from that Right and we also know that if we are a true soulmate to each other because God has ordained us to be together like that, that nothing can really come between us.
• 24:54
  Daniel Moore: I mean, it's hard for our marriage to fail if we actually look at it from that standpoint and understand that God's really the one that put us together.
• 25:04
  Daniel Moore: And we don't want to fail God, and so we work our hardest on our marriage to make sure that we keep building on that love and that foundation that we have in front of us.
• 25:15
  Michelle Moore: And as you're talking about that, I go back and I think about how, when we first got married, that was one of the biggest things is I was marrying my soulmate.
• 25:23
  Michelle Moore: You know, that's how I felt and I had to question that after we went through so many things and we got to the discussion of divorce, it's like I honestly thought you were my soulmate.
• 25:35
  Michelle Moore: And to read that and to you know, I'm just sitting here thinking about that you truly were my soulmate, but we allowed the world and not put God in front of us to kind of break that down for the first eight years.
• 25:52
  Daniel Moore: Right.
• 25:53
  Michelle Moore: It took it a while, but I mean we're still here, we're still soulmates.
• 25:57
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, it reminds me of that.
• 25:59
  Daniel Moore: I think it's a song by Casting Crown, slow Fade.
• 26:01
  Michelle Moore: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Daniel Moore: It reminds me of that because, you know, nothing happens overnight.
• 26:07
  Daniel Moore: It never happens overnight.
• 26:09
  Daniel Moore: There's always things that build and continue to get bigger.
• 26:14
  Daniel Moore: It's the monster in the room, basically, and if you don't attack that the very first time that you notice something is taking place, you need to attack it right then.
• 26:24
  Michelle Moore: Right.
• 26:24
  Daniel Moore: Because, if you don't, it's just going to get bigger like a snowball effect.
• 26:27
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and it's going to end up, you know, getting out of control to something that you just can't handle anymore, until it just explodes in your face.
• 26:34
  Michelle Moore: Well, I just want to say, though, as I sit here and I look at you, I'm so thankful that you're my soulmate Because, honestly, I love you more and more, and I'm so thankful that you're stuck with me for the rest of your life.
• 26:48
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, there's what that commercial stuck with.
• 26:49
  Daniel Moore: Stuck on you or whatever.
• 26:53
  Michelle Moore: Sorry guys, I just had to say that, because just sitting here looking at him and seeing him in his element, it's just I'm so proud of him and I just I love him so much.
• 27:02
  Daniel Moore: And for you to make, be able to make that statement after the thing that we've been through, that's a God thing.
• 27:07
  Aria: Yeah.
• 27:07
  Daniel Moore: I mean by far, because if God hadn't have brought this back full circle and brought it back around together, we could not have said what we do about each other at this point or felt like we do, and so that's why it's so important, when you have these problems, to bring God back into it.
• 27:21
  Daniel Moore: It's very important for that, sorry.
• 27:23
  Daniel Moore: I got sidetracked there, that's all right, we will continue.
• 27:28
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, sorry.
• 27:37
  Daniel Moore: When something threatens the sacred and this pure element of marriage, such as infidelity or betrayal, we naturally feel legitimate jealousy at that point.
• 27:42
  Daniel Moore: If you're betraying me or if I'm betraying you, if there's infidelity involved, we have a right to feel that jealousy at that point.
• 27:53
  Daniel Moore: That is a God-given right, that's our nature, because that possessiveness that we have between each other through Christ, that's being breached, that's being broken.
• 28:03
  Daniel Moore: So any threat to this marital bond that we have, such as those types of things, can trigger feelings of protectiveness, possessiveness and jealousy as we strive to safeguard the sanctity of our marriage.
• 28:17
  Daniel Moore: So when we have the threat to this bond and these feelings start getting triggered of the protectiveness, the possessiveness, the jealousy because of something that's going on in your spouse's life that doesn't line up, how does it feel?
• 28:34
  Daniel Moore: Whenever you feel like you're getting threatened like that, what feelings does that give you?
• 28:39
  Michelle Moore: Well, like I said earlier, I mean I felt like you were always my soulmate.
• 28:43
  Michelle Moore: So, going into a marriage from a previous marriage that didn't really end well and had things that happened, I never expected any of that from you.
• 28:55
  Michelle Moore: So when I caught on to what was going on by getting on the phone when you were on the phone with her, it really, really hurt me and it affected me in areas that I didn't really would affect me.
• 29:12
  Michelle Moore: Like you know, I started at the beginning of there was a lot of hurt and anger and bitterness that actually took root in my heart, that I didn't realize how much it impacted me on that and you know, just not that situation that really hurt me.
• 29:29
  Michelle Moore: You go to the situation of, you know, when we first got married and discussing our future together, of, you know, children, you know and when the baby issue came up, there was so much there was already hurt, anger and bitterness in there that when that situation came up it just grew even more.
• 29:53
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, I felt panic.
• 29:55
  Daniel Moore: Whenever I first realized what was happening with you, I panicked, I mean and it's crazy because in a lot of ways as I've I think I talked a little bit about this in our testimony and I've actually, you know, talked to Michelle about this and other people multiple times I do feel like that I am responsible to an extent for what happened, with us getting towards that spot where we thought we were going to get divorced.
• 30:22
  Daniel Moore: I was a big part of that problem, in that equation.
• 30:26
  Daniel Moore: But I think there's a part of me that you know you keep saying the soulmate thing where you just didn't think that would happen.
• 30:32
  Daniel Moore: I think, in the back of my mind, I didn't think it would happen either.
• 30:35
  Daniel Moore: I think we were such good friends for so long because, you know, technically we've been friends since you were 15.
• 30:41
  Daniel Moore: It's been a long time, it's been a long time it's been a long time and you know, we were friends.
• 30:47
  Daniel Moore: Even when we went through our first marriages we were friends.
• 30:50
  Daniel Moore: You were friends with my sister.
• 30:53
  Daniel Moore: I think there's a part of me that, for some stupid reason, thought that no matter what happened, we'd just be together.
• 30:59
  Daniel Moore: I mean, I don't know.
• 31:01
  Daniel Moore: When I look back at that, I don't know why I thought that way, because anything can be destroyed, Anything can be demolished right before your eyes.
• 31:10
  Daniel Moore: It doesn't matter.
• 31:10
  Daniel Moore: There's no promise of anything if it's not being done in the correct fashion.
• 31:15
  Michelle Moore: Well, you think about how Satan is after a marriage yeah.
• 31:20
  Michelle Moore: And it's easy to do that when you don't put God in the center.
• 31:24
  Daniel Moore: Right yeah, and it's easy to do that when you don't put God in the center.
• 31:26
  Daniel Moore: Right yeah, if there's an open door there he's going to he's going to come in and just exploit that.
• 31:31
  Daniel Moore: So when I did come to the point where I did realize that, hey, I think we're done where I'm in trouble here, you know, because it really started making me reevaluate what I did and where our relationship was truly at I all of a sudden felt like I had lost all control of my life.
• 31:48
  Daniel Moore: I mean, I just I didn't know what to do.
• 31:50
  Daniel Moore: I was talking until I was blue in the face.
• 31:53
  Daniel Moore: I was trying to fix things.
• 31:54
  Daniel Moore: I was trying to say stuff that I thought would fix stuff, and you were so upset and angry with me and you actually had a form of hatred in you at that point in time.
• 32:04
  Michelle Moore: I don't know that I've ever hated someone so much.
• 32:08
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, so it just bounced off the wall.
• 32:10
  Daniel Moore: Anytime I tried to say anything to you, you wouldn't listen to me for anything.
• 32:15
  Michelle Moore: No, and I was mean.
• 32:16
  Michelle Moore: There was a side of me that came out that I didn't even know, because the one person that I thought I was madly in love with, we had been through so many things and I think what capped it completely off was the baby issue, and I didn't even know.
• 32:37
  Michelle Moore: And that's the reason why it's so important to guard our hearts and guard our minds, because I let stuff in that I did not realize how much it took root.
• 32:49
  Daniel Moore: Right.
• 32:50
  Michelle Moore: Until it came out, and I was at that point where it's like whatever you say is not going to matter.
• 32:56
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and it just comes back to the old saying you just don't know what you've got till it's gone.
• 33:01
  Daniel Moore: Don't know what you've got till it's gone.
• 33:06
  Daniel Moore: Whenever, whenever, any little bit of anything that you ever had that gave you any type of security in your life.
• 33:08
  Daniel Moore: When that security blanket is completely ripped out from underneath you and you really don't, there's nobody I could.
• 33:15
  Daniel Moore: I mean, I really didn't have anybody to talk to at that point because, of some other things that had happened in my life.
• 33:22
  Daniel Moore: You know, I really didn't have any close friends to talk to about that and well, and I don't know that you would talk.
• 33:27
  Daniel Moore: I don't know if I would have yeah communicating with me Right.
• 33:31
  Daniel Moore: And so I mean I'm not sure, because you're still somewhat- I'm a white personality, so anybody that's familiar with the color code.
• 33:40
  Daniel Moore: I have a lot of white in me, which means that I'm content just sitting in the back of a room at a party and just watching everybody and having the ball of my life.
• 33:48
  Daniel Moore: I just I don't got to be right in the middle of anything.
• 33:51
  Daniel Moore: But that also reflects back to the point to where we keep our stuff inside.
• 33:57
  Daniel Moore: We don't talk much.
• 33:58
  Daniel Moore: We fight our own inner demons and solve our own problems within our own mind and we're just okay with that.
• 34:05
  Daniel Moore: We just don't really let anybody else into our space and so Well, he's a new, improved white personality.
• 34:12
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, my colors have switched a little, I think, over the years, but it is still difficult for me sometimes, though, to express myself.
• 34:20
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, because I still have a feeling a lot of times inside of me that I can fix things on my own.
• 34:26
  Daniel Moore: That could be a guy thing, and it could be a personality thing, probably a mixture of stuff, I don't know.
• 34:32
  Daniel Moore: But I have gotten a lot better, though.
• 34:35
  Daniel Moore: I've made an effort to communicate with you and because I know how important that is, now that I've almost lost everything that we had between the two of us, and so you know, when that time came that I've almost lost everything that we had between the two of us, and so you know, when that time came that we was looking at the apartment and you know we were looking at filing divorce paperwork and all that kind of thing, I really at that point just felt like I lost control of my whole life.
• 34:58
  Daniel Moore: I mean, I used to things that I could control, things that I had my finger on and I could manipulate it and make things work.
• 35:05
  Daniel Moore: All of a sudden now I couldn't do that anymore and it was.
• 35:09
  Daniel Moore: It was just kind of a feeling of panic.
• 35:11
  Daniel Moore: And so whenever we have these issues come up in our marriage, where there are these threats that take place, it's going to be natural to feel that jealousy and it's going to be natural, If anything, it's probably a good thing because it's going to be natural to feel that jealousy and it's going to be natural.
• 35:25
  Daniel Moore: If anything, it's probably a good thing because it's going to trigger that fight or flight syndrome inside of you.
• 35:30
  Daniel Moore: It's going to make you want to hopefully want to fight for what you had and try to fix stuff, and hopefully it's just not too late.
• 35:36
  Daniel Moore: You just got to make sure that you know you keep God in the middle, and I brought God in the middle of that.
• 35:40
  Daniel Moore: That's how I ended up solving that problem.
• 35:42
  Daniel Moore: I got to my lowest valley where I just felt like I didn't know what to do, and, as it goes, that's always a lot of times.
• 35:51
  Daniel Moore: When we do turn to God is when we're at those low points, and that is a perfect example of what happened to me.
• 35:57
  Daniel Moore: And fortunately, through all of that, god helped work all of that out.
• 36:02
  Daniel Moore: Now, as we're talking about this jealousy thing as we close up today, you're probably asking well, I thought it was wrong and that it was a sin to be jealous.
• 36:12
  Daniel Moore: Are we really saying that that's a good thing and that it's all right for that to take place?
• 36:17
  Daniel Moore: Well, the reality of that is there are some forms of jealousy that are destructive and sinful.
• 36:23
  Daniel Moore: That is very true when we try to take something from someone in a lustful manner that isn't rightfully ours, or even if we try to hold on to something that we have in a wrong manner, then, yes, that can be sinful.
• 36:36
  Daniel Moore: However, in marriage, both spouses have moral obligations to God and each other to protect their relationships from being violated by other people or things of lesser priorities.
• 36:47
  Daniel Moore: God himself is the best example of this fact in life.
• 36:52
  Daniel Moore: So, as we have our relationships and our marriages, you know, if you guys have a hot wife, there might be some guy come along someday and say, man, I'd like to have a little bit of that.
• 37:02
  Daniel Moore: So they may try to bullnose their way into the middle of that relationship and they may end up trying to tear up that relationship.
• 37:11
  Daniel Moore: So if that happens, we do have a moral obligation to to that marriage, to get some jealousy involved there, and that should trigger you to fight for that marriage and try to make sure that that intrusion stays out.
• 37:25
  Daniel Moore: Now, in Exodus 34, verse 14, it talks about how God is jealous.
• 37:31
  Daniel Moore: It says For thou shalt worship no other God, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
• 37:38
  Daniel Moore: This verse shows God's jealousy for his people and it emphasizes the exclusivity of their worship and devotion to him.
• 37:45
  Daniel Moore: It affirms that God's very nature includes jealousy when it comes to his relationship with his people, and that's us.
• 37:52
  Daniel Moore: The first thing we see in the scripture is the very fact that God's name is actually jealous, is the very fact that God's name is actually jealous.
• 38:03
  Daniel Moore: The idea of God as a jealous God can be seen as a reflection of his divine love and desire for a deep and intimate relationship with us.
• 38:06
  Daniel Moore: It underscores the importance of placing God above all other gods or idols in our lives and gives him the exclusive reverence and worship that he deserves.
• 38:16
  Daniel Moore: So if we look at that concept of God as a jealous God, how does our marriage compare, such as placing it above all else, no other gods or idols or distractions in our life?
• 38:29
  Michelle Moore: Well, when placing your spouse second to God will only strengthen your marriage.
• 38:34
  Michelle Moore: When you say your vows to your spouse, you say them to God as well, meaning you are one placing them above earthly things and dying to your personal needs.
• 38:44
  Michelle Moore: By doing that, you show them how much you mean to them.
• 38:50
  Daniel Moore: And I like what you said there and I bet you a lot of people never thought about this.
• 38:53
  Daniel Moore: When you're standing in front of that preacher, at that altar, sharing rings, sharing vows, and when you say I do, a lot of times we look at it.
• 39:03
  Daniel Moore: I just now said that to you and you only you just said to me I do, but that's not where that stops.
• 39:10
  Daniel Moore: You do say that to God because this institution of marriage again, as we've been discussing, is a reflection of that marriage relationship that we do have with God.
• 39:20
  Daniel Moore: So in essence, we are saying that to God.
• 39:22
  Daniel Moore: That's right Whenever.
• 39:24
  Daniel Moore: I love that that you put that in there, because I think that if all of us walked up to the altar and said those vows with that in the back of our mind, it might make it mean a little bit more probably.
• 39:37
  Michelle Moore: Well, I think you know too it's so important to have pre-marriage counseling, because I know that ministers or counselors actually will discuss some of that, because you're becoming one.
• 39:52
  Michelle Moore: That's a God-ordained marriage, you know, and so it's very important that you have that.
• 40:00
  Daniel Moore: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Daniel Moore: The second thing that we can see in the scripture is the fact that God's jealousy is mentioned in the Bible suggests that not all forms of jealousy are inherently wrong.
• 40:10
  Daniel Moore: That kind of proves that point.
• 40:12
  Daniel Moore: In the case of God, his jealousy is a reflection of his holiness, his righteousness and commitment to his people.
• 40:17
  Daniel Moore: It serves as a reminder of the importance of honoring that covenant that we have with Him and remaining faithful to Him in all aspects of our lives.
• 40:26
  Daniel Moore: The third thing that we also see from this scripture here is the design of God's relationship with us and rooted in love and intimacy.
• 40:35
  Daniel Moore: God created us out of His love and desires our love and devotion in return, he wants us to prioritize our relationship with him above all else and to seek him first in all things.
• 40:47
  Daniel Moore: When our relationship with God is threatened or compromised by other idols in our life or things that we may put up as a God in our life, god's jealousy is a natural response.
• 40:59
  Daniel Moore: It stems from His love for us and His desire for us to have a deep and meaningful relationship with.
• 41:07
  Daniel Moore: Him.
• 41:07
  Daniel Moore: So as we look at this as being a proper jealousy in our marriage, then in essence that's okay because we are actually reflecting that jealousy that God has in that relationship for us as well.
• 41:23
  Daniel Moore: Did you have anything to add to that one?
• 41:25
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, I do.
• 41:26
  Michelle Moore: You know you think about.
• 41:28
  Michelle Moore: In a marriage there can be a righteous expression of jealousy when your spouses are mature, Christ-centered people, right, it's a right kind of jealousy.
• 41:39
  Michelle Moore: It can bring clarity and healing at the same time.
• 41:43
  Daniel Moore: That's good, because we do need clarity sometimes in what's going on, because sometimes it's maybe a little muddy and we're not quite sure In there yes.
• 41:53
  Daniel Moore: And so we do need to rely on God to help kind of clarify that up as we communicate between each other.
• 41:59
  Daniel Moore: And then what was the other point there?
• 42:03
  Michelle Moore: It can bring healing.
• 42:04
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, bring healing.
• 42:05
  Michelle Moore: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Daniel Moore: Once we do get that clarity and all of that and we allow God to get in the middle of it, then that's where we do start that road to recovery.
• 42:12
  Daniel Moore: That's right, and so that is a couple of very important points there to put onto that.
• 42:18
  Daniel Moore: We must also understand that Jesus relates to us as his eternal bride.
• 42:23
  Daniel Moore: That means that we are deeply cherished and loved by him.
• 42:26
  Daniel Moore: Just as a husband loves and cares for his wife, Jesus loves and cares for us intensely.
• 42:32
  Michelle Moore: I love that.
• 42:33
  Daniel Moore: We are each other's eternal bride and groom.
• 42:37
  Daniel Moore: All of us should go into marriage.
• 42:38
  Daniel Moore: Looking at it.
• 42:40
  Michelle Moore: But you know, I don't know that I ever thought of that when we were first married.
• 42:43
  Michelle Moore: I mean, I just didn't look at it that way.
• 42:47
  Daniel Moore: No I think we're wrapped up so much in the emotions of the day and everything.
• 42:52
  Michelle Moore: You just don't think about it, yeah.
• 42:53
  Daniel Moore: We're just thinking about the house and the rolling hills and the little spring and the picket fence.
• 42:59
  Daniel Moore: It took me quite.
• 43:02
  Michelle Moore: I mean several years, I mean it's just.
• 43:04
  Michelle Moore: I think, probably in the last couple of years, that I've really thought about it like that.
• 43:08
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, so if we can look at our marriages in the same aspect as our relationship with God our relationship with God, we know, is eternal, right, we are looking towards that reward someday we're going to get, as long as we keep believing in Him.
• 43:24
  Daniel Moore: We should look the same way to our spouses.
• 43:25
  Daniel Moore: As long as we keep believing in each other, we are going to have an eternal reward from God someday for keeping that marriage together as well, as the marriage is going to reward even within itself and we're going to have the best relationship, best friendship, between two people that you could ever have.
• 43:39
  Daniel Moore: And so there's just a lot of promises there with that, if we keep that aspect in our life.
• 43:44
  Daniel Moore: In Ephesians 5, paul explains that husbands are to love their wives, as Christ loved the church sacrificially and unconditionally.
• 43:52
  Daniel Moore: This mirrors the love that Jesus has for us, as he gave himself up on the cross out of love.
• 43:58
  Daniel Moore: Just as a husband and wife are to prioritize and nurture their relationship, we are called to prioritize and nurture our relationship with Jesus.
• 44:08
  Daniel Moore: Just as a husband becomes jealous when someone or something threatens his relationship with his wife, jesus becomes jealous when we allow other things to take priority over our relationship with him.
• 44:22
  Daniel Moore: It is a blessing to know that Jesus loves us so much that he fights to protect and preserve our relationship with him.
• 44:30
  Daniel Moore: His jealousy is a sign of his deep love and desire for us to be close to him, and he will always fight to hold on to us.
• 44:40
  Michelle Moore: Isn't that awesome.
• 44:41
  Michelle Moore: That's so good to hear.
• 44:43
  Daniel Moore: Another good way to look at that cross.
• 44:44
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, he went to that cross to preserve that relationship between you and I and Him.
• 44:49
  Daniel Moore: And that's really how we should look at our relationship with each other.
• 44:54
  Daniel Moore: We should be able to take up the cross for each other and to sacrifice those things that causes problems between the two of us.
• 45:02
  Daniel Moore: We need to be able to nail those things to the cross and put them behind us to make sure that our marriage functions in the best way that it can, according to what God would want.
• 45:11
  Daniel Moore: So we see here why our marriage is so important to God and why it should also be important to us and why it should also be important to us.
• 45:17
  Daniel Moore: So the fact that Jesus gave his life for a relationship, that should prepare us to do the same for our spouses.
• 45:26
  Daniel Moore: And do you have anything to add to that one here as we close today?
• 45:31
  Michelle Moore: No.
• 45:31
  Daniel Moore: I really don't.
• 45:31
  Daniel Moore: Well, I think that kind of speaks into itself, because there's no greater love than when Jesus laid down his life for us.
• 45:38
  Daniel Moore: The Bible flat out tells us that, and I think that there's no greater love than when Jesus laid down his life for us.
• 45:40
  Daniel Moore: The Bible flat out tells us that, and I think that there's no greater love between two spouses than when we lay down our lives and we put those things behind us that could become a barrier or could cause problems and issues in our relationships, and so I think that that's something that's very important, that we need to keep in mind as we go through this life and we try to make this thing called marriage work.
• 46:02
  Daniel Moore: And we have to live with each other day in and day out, regardless, through the good, the bad, the ugly, whatever it may be.
• 46:08
  Daniel Moore: We have to figure out how to work ourselves and navigate through that, and so one of the greatest certainties in life is this At some point in your marriage if you haven't already experienced it yet, maybe some of you have experienced it and you've actually figured out how to move past it, and some of you may just now be falling into this category, but you can almost guarantee the certainty that at some point you're going to feel some legitimate jealousy.
• 46:37
  Daniel Moore: It's just going to happen, satan.
• 46:40
  Daniel Moore: Michelle brought this up just a little bit here a while ago.
• 46:46
  Daniel Moore: Satan does attack our family, because the families create the church.
• 46:48
  Daniel Moore: If he can demolish the family unit and he can destroy that relationship between the mom and dad and then bring the kids into the equation and get them on side so that they're mad at one parent or the other, and then this all ends up being into a big divorce and a separation and then they don't go to church anymore, and that's his whole goal.
• 47:05
  Daniel Moore: He hates that relationship that God has with us.
• 47:10
  Daniel Moore: He absolutely detests it and since our marriage relationship reflects that relationship with God, if he can destroy our relationship in essence, satan feels like he destroys that relationship between us and God he can destroy our relationship.
• 47:19
  Daniel Moore: In essence, satan feels like he destroys that relationship between us and God as well.
• 47:22
  Daniel Moore: That's his ultimate goal and as husbands and wives, we need to make sure that we don't allow that to happen and keep God in the middle of that.
• 47:31
  Daniel Moore: Is there anything that you want to add as we close here today?
• 47:34
  Daniel Moore: Okay, well, we're going to go ahead and wrap up this episode then, and next week we'll come back and we're going to continue this priority discussion as we get this all started on the series of the four laws of love, and next week we're going to be talking a little bit about how love begins with priorities, and we're going to actually talk next week about how we prioritize things in our life and what those list of priorities should look like, and so we're going to work our way through all of that on next week's episode.
• 48:06
  Daniel Moore: Well, thank you guys for joining us this week.
• 48:09
  Daniel Moore: That's going to be the end of this week's episode.
• 48:11
  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore, I sit here with my wife, michelle, and I want to thank you guys so much for listening.
• 48:16
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• 48:31
  Daniel Moore: We'd like to hear from you guys, absolutely, if there's something that you've walked through and if there's something that you could add to this discussion, because Michelle and I, we will be the first to say we don't know it all.
• 48:43
  Daniel Moore: We have been through a lot, I will say that and we have learned a lot of lessons, but marriage is a ongoing thing that we learn each and every day.
• 48:54
  Daniel Moore: It's just something that you never know everything about it, and until the day we die, we're going to still be learning how to live with each other and to make things work and put God first.
• 49:04
  Daniel Moore: So, please, if there's something that you'd like to share that maybe we could even share it on on an episode.
• 49:11
  Michelle Moore: So yeah, please feel free to comment, and I mean, we can go back and just address it.
• 49:17
  Daniel Moore: Or if you have questions or any of that type of thing, we'll be happy to try to answer those for you.
• 49:21
  Daniel Moore: We just want to hear from you to give us some feedback.
• 49:25
  Daniel Moore: Well, that's all for this week, and as we go, we believe that God's Word never fails us.
• 49:29
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• 49:31
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  Aria: We are also on the Christian podcasting app Edify.
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  Aria: You can subscribe to our podcast on many of the available podcasting platforms, including Apple Podcast, spotify, amazon Music, iheart Radio, tunein Radio and more.
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  Aria: We are also available on your Alexa-enabled devices.
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  Aria: If you would like to contact our ministry for any reason, visit our contact page and send us a message.
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  Aria: We hope you are blessed by this ministry.
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  Aria: This is a production of Connecting the Gap Ministries.