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Exploding Heads of Hops · Sips, Suds, & Smokes

• 0:18
  > Announcer>Brought to you almost live from the dude in the basement studios.
• 0:22
  > Sean>Why?
• 0:23
  > Announcer>Cause that's where the good stuff is. It sips suds and smokes with your smokin host, the good old boys.
• 0:48
  > Sean>Suds.
• 0:49
  > Announcer>Suds. Suds. It's time for more suds.
• 0:57
  > Julianna>Welcome, everyone, to another suds segment. I'm one of your hosts, good oh gal Juliana. And joining me at the table today is good old boy Sean.
• 1:06
  > Sean>Hello, hello, hello, hello.
• 1:11
  > Julianna>And good ol boy Dave.
• 1:13
  > Dave>Hello, hello, hello, hello.
• 1:17
  > Julianna>Uh, was your pinky up when you said all those words?
• 1:20
  > Dave>Up where it begins.
• 1:23
  > Julianna>So it begins and we're like, what, 2 seconds into it?
• 1:28
  > Dave>Sure.
• 1:28
  > Julianna>Nice. Recently we started a new series and we call it beer club.
• 1:34
  > Sean>Beer club. Beer club.
• 1:38
  > Julianna>It's kind of like a book club, but instead of everyone reading a book, I mean, who wants to do that?
• 1:43
  > Dave>Stupid books.
• 1:44
  > Julianna>We listen to an album and instead of discussing it over coffee or tea or whatever the heck book club people drink, we each pair the album with a beer.
• 1:56
  > Sean>A beer.
• 1:57
  > Dave>Then we drink the beer.
• 1:59
  > Dave>Oh, we talk about our feelings and stuff.
• 2:03
  > Julianna>I'm sad that the beer's gone.
• 2:08
  > Dave>He needs more beer in him stat.
• 2:10
  > Julianna>Well, actually, we talk about the beers and the album.
• 2:16
  > Julianna>Besides, you only have two feelings, feeling drunk and feeling full. Remember?
• 2:21
  > Dave>Sometimes I get felt up. Is that.
• 2:25
  > Julianna>Nah.
• 2:25
  > Dave>Oh.
• 2:28
  > Julianna>Good old boy Sean, you picked the album for today's episode, so why don't you tell us about it?
• 2:33
  > Sean>Alrighty. Today's album is talking heads classic from the late eighties.
• 2:39
  > Sean>Late 1980, October 8, 1980. Uh, sometime in the eighties, sometime in the eighties, in the early late eighties, 1980s, uh, remain in light, uh, which, uh, you know, reading up on, on what went into this album, uh, definitely learned a few new things in terms of, uh, how few chord progressions there actually are in a lot of these songs and how repetitive a lot of stuff was.
• 3:06
  > Sean>And also what you think our loops are actually them just mechanically wrote, playing the same stuff over and over and over again. Uh, so even though we were probably, we were in the early days of the samplers, there's no samplers on this. All people, it's all people playing. Pretty, uh, amazing. Uh, Brian Eno produced this album and, uh, you know, it wasn't without some controversy, um, a, with Brian Eno producing it again and then b, uh, you know, there was definitely some fractures in the talking heads.
• 3:40
  > Sean>And, uh, you know, Chris and Tina had kind of off doing their thing here and there. And at one point, uh, I think Tina was wanting to leave.
• 3:48
  > Sean>And, uh, anyway, instead came this album and kind of breathed some new life into talking heads.
• 3:56
  > Dave>Pretty funky album.
• 3:57
  > Sean>Funky and just very exploratory. I, um, think, uh, this album and then the album that we're going to discuss in another episode, uh, that both have brainy old connections, um, a lot of tribal beats and whatnot. But unlike Paul Simon's graceland, where it's very much in your face, this is rhythms of Africa.
• 4:20
  > Sean>They, um, somehow don't.
• 4:24
  > Sean>What's the word? Appropriate.
• 4:26
  > Dave>Uh, well, it all feels very organic and it's just kind of part of the. Part of the picture.
• 4:30
  > Sean>Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 4:32
  > Julianna>Okay, well, we'll get more into that in just a minute, but good old boy Dave, why don't you quickly give us the suds ratings and then we'll get onto it.
• 4:40
  > Dave>Yeah, we'll be discussing a rating these beers with these suds ratings. Plus our signature belching sounds here. Are those ratings now. Yeah, these are patent pending.
• 4:51
  > Dave>Uh, don't copyright infringe me, bro. A rating of a one, that sucks. Give me anything but a buddha.
• 5:02
  > Dave>Two. Was that a belch?
• 5:06
  > Dave>Three. Ah. Uh, what a relief.
• 5:12
  > Dave>Give me shivers. Four, a body should really not make that sound.
• 5:20
  > Dave>And five. Listen to that hang time.
• 5:23
  > Dave>Give me another.
• 5:31
  > Julianna>Okay, well, let's get on with it. Now, we can't play any clips from romanian light boo, but we encourage you, our wonderful listeners, to check it out yourself on, um, vinyl always is the best option.
• 5:47
  > Sean>Indeed, indeed.
• 5:49
  > Julianna>But you can also stream it online on one of your online streaming services.
• 5:55
  > Dave>Where you stream things.
• 5:57
  > Sean>Or if you're me, you rip the cd into apple lossless. I still have the cd for the record, but, uh, uh, yeah, and then you can just stream it to your stereo and lossless format and enjoy all, you know, the talking heads the way they were meant to be. Just full of full fidelity. Yes, but vinyl is definitely the preferred format. Oh, of course, sure.
• 6:18
  > Julianna>Okay. All right, well, Sean, tell us a little more.
• 6:21
  > Dave>Kick it off your show, buddy. Make it happen.
• 6:23
  > Julianna>Yeah, exactly.
• 6:24
  > Sean>Yeah, we're, I mean, this, this album, you know, I, you, bio counts was an instant classic.
• 6:31
  > Dave>Right?
• 6:31
  > Sean>It, you, uh, know, uh, the, uh, the reviewers just were, I think, pleasantly surprised. Um, you know, it was a natural progression for talking heads, but no one saw this coming.
• 6:44
  > Julianna>Oh, my gosh. Well, I don't, I mean, dare say, I don't know when Graceland came out. I guess in comparison, I think that.
• 6:52
  > Sean>Would have been like 84, 86.
• 6:53
  > Julianna>Okay, so it was even later.
• 6:54
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 6:55
  > Julianna>So this was the beginning of this whole melding of cultures way of presenting music. It wasn't so boxed in like it had been prior to that.
• 7:05
  > Sean>Well, and there's several references where hip hop has hit and is affecting the talking heads in some way, shape or form. Um, you know, not necessarily directly, but there definitely was, uh, I think was Curtis blow was referenced at some point as inspiring some of the lyrics in some of the songs.
• 7:25
  > Sean>So, um, I mean, you're also talking to about a band that has been listening to a lot of funk. You know, burning down the house was based off of a parliament show, so obviously, um, burning down the house on a different album. Uh, but a lot of.
• 7:38
  > Dave>Lot of funk in there.
• 7:39
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 7:40
  > Dave>And, uh, when they're talking about this, they're talking about how he struggled with the lyrics.
• 7:46
  > Dave>So there. There is some inspiration from, like, old school hip hop and different. Just the way the kind of stream of consciousness.
• 7:53
  > Sean>Yeah. Was it not. Was it Isemba?
• 7:56
  > Dave>Um.
• 7:56
  > Sean>Um, you know, on one of their previous albums, which is all, you know, dada, it's all made up words and whatnot. You know, that was definitely a starting point for a lot of these songs, too, in terms of trying to come up with the lyrics and.
• 8:07
  > Sean>Yeah. So, um, yeah, it's really interesting to read about how this came together and how much they incorporated that was very new and cutting edge at the time that, uh, you know, had not been heard before.
• 8:21
  > Julianna>Oh, yeah.
• 8:22
  > Sean>And it's. It's still just an amazing album in terms of every time you put it on you, there's new stuff you hear every time, and there's a lot of. A lot of density to it.
• 8:30
  > Julianna>Well, and it still sounds fresh even after all these years. You know, I have to admit, it's been a while since I listened to this record.
• 8:38
  > Julianna>And when you mentioned that this is what you wanted to talk about, I'm like, oh, wow, dude. Like, pulling off the cobwebs, and it's almost like I was listening to it for the first time again, because compared to what's out there now and what's dominating your streaming platforms, this is such a breath of fresh air.
• 8:59
  > Dave>Yeah, I felt like I was listening to it for the first time.
• 9:03
  > Julianna>Cause you were.
• 9:05
  > Dave>Oh, thanks for calling me out, dude.
• 9:07
  > Dave>Rude.
• 9:08
  > Julianna>And, you know, another pat on the bat back for this record is that in 2017, the Library of Congress this album, critically or culturally, historically and artistically significant, and it's selected for preservation into the national recording registry, which isn't something that you're gonna have on all records, no matter, like, uh, you know, how profound they are. I mean, it's not like every one of Bruce Springsteen's records is gonna be.
• 9:36
  > Sean>There or any of them, you know, not, oh, rude.
• 9:42
  > Announcer>Banned once again.
• 9:45
  > Julianna>You watch what you say in front of me.
• 9:48
  > Dave>I know he's the boss in so.
• 9:51
  > Julianna>Many ways, but, yeah. And then on top of that, knowing that Adrian Baloo even played on this record.
• 10:01
  > Sean>Well, and then the crazy part is, is that it sounds like almost everything he did was done in one day.
• 10:07
  > Julianna>Of course, because that's Adrian.
• 10:08
  > Sean>I mean, you know, mad props to, uh, to a genius there. But, um, also just to read that it really kind of changed the trajectory of the album after he came in and laid down some of these guitar parts. And that is always the part that, like, um, blows my mind every time I listen to this album. Is listening to his guitar work on there. It is just so out there. There's.
• 10:28
  > Sean>There's. For your familiar with Sonny Chirac at all. You know, definitely a lot of just this dissonant, um, just guitar noise for the sake of guitar noise. But it just is so beautifully done. And, yeah, it's so fun to listen to. And there's always just, um, you know, again, very dense, very layered and just, um, complex. But yet, you know, sometimes it's just noise.
• 10:52
  > Julianna>Yeah, true. But, like, for what this was, okay, so 1980, and this was in the days that King Crimson, Washington, like, somewhat playing it safe with their records. You know, there was the red, blue, yellow phase of life. Okay, this is honestly the way he's playing to me. Reminds of, like, thrak and thrak attack and all this stuff from the nineties. Like, he's kind of ahead of himself in the grand scheme of things, which, uh, then goes to show how wonderful King Crimson is.
• 11:26
  > Dave>And somehow this became a King Crimson episode.
• 11:30
  > Julianna>Hey, I'm always gonna.
• 11:32
  > Dave>Let's make sure we cover Bruce Springsteen and King Crimson during the talking Heads episode.
• 11:37
  > Julianna>Okay, I'm throwing down the mic. I'm good now for the rest of the day.
• 11:41
  > Dave>Well, let's throw down some of this beer.
• 11:43
  > Julianna>Yes. What beer did you bring to pair with this really colorful record?
• 11:48
  > Dave>I don't think I got any.
• 11:49
  > Sean>Oh, where did it go, Dave?
• 11:52
  > Sean>Where did it go? It's going into Dave's hand as we scooped. Uh, we are so, uh, for the listeners out there, we must give you the full picture here. We are not drinking this beer from the can. Uh, uh, we are drinking from a can that is very monochromatic. It is. It is very, very black and silver. Um, uh, so I found myself in, uh, the beginning of July up in, uh, Stowe, Vermont.
• 12:21
  > Julianna>He just happened to find.
• 12:22
  > Dave>Oh, I just happened to find myself and Stowe.
• 12:24
  > Sean>And after having a pleasant dinner at von Trapp brewery, I, uh, made my way down to the. The alchemist and, uh, bought my allotment of Hetty topper and focal banger.
• 12:33
  > Sean>So today we are drinking Hedy. Uh, topper. I figured.
• 12:36
  > Sean>Hedy topper, talking heads. Um.
• 12:39
  > Sean>Uh, the other thing is, is, uh, for the record, this beer was canned on June, uh, 29th, 1980.
• 12:48
  > Sean>And, uh, I, uh. I have not been able to keep it cold. I've been able to keep it at least at room temperature since it's still nice.
• 12:57
  > Sean>So, uh, just painting that picture for the listeners out there, because some of you all are very purists. And, you know, if the hedi topper is two weeks old, it's out of date. We can't have that.
• 13:07
  > Sean>Um.
• 13:11
  > Julianna>This is just beautiful.
• 13:15
  > Sean>It does not get old.
• 13:16
  > Julianna>No, no, it does not. And so perfectly. I mean, like, the record that doesn't get old and kind of, you know, breathes new life into itself and into your soul every time you listen to it. This does the same thing, too.
• 13:31
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 13:31
  > Julianna>You know, this may not be necessarily the trendiest beer right now in the universe, but it still packs a punch, and it's gorgeous.
• 13:41
  > Sean>But it's also the beer that set.
• 13:43
  > Dave>The trend and started the whole damn thing.
• 13:46
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 13:46
  > Dave>Honestly.
• 13:47
  > Julianna>Yeah. Yeah, it did. It did.
• 13:50
  > Dave>All you hazy boys up there.
• 13:52
  > Julianna>Well, it is. It's hazy, it's creamy.
• 13:54
  > Julianna>It's a little dank.
• 13:57
  > Julianna>I mean, yeah, all of the. All of the flavors, like your palate just comes alive.
• 14:02
  > Dave>Got that bitter backbone?
• 14:03
  > Sean>Yes.
• 14:04
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 14:04
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 14:04
  > Julianna>We'll be back with more in just a brief minute.
• 14:10
  > Speaker E>It's not just the destination, but, baby, the whole elation riding down this lover's avenue as slow as a willow blows um, or as fast as the world wind grows we glide beneath the stars in cobalt blue look to the left, to the right keep your eyes on the road, my darling wondering if we're only passing through open roads and open windows my hand is yours forever, sweet love our eyes ahead on these back rows with a view.
• 15:11
  > Julianna>Welcome back, everyone. So for today's episode of Beer Club.
• 15:17
  > Sean>Beer club. Beer club.
• 15:20
  > Julianna>Sean picked a great record, and that.
• 15:23
  > Sean>Record is remaining light from talking heads.
• 15:28
  > Julianna>Shawn also picked a great beer to go with this record, and that beer.
• 15:33
  > Sean>Is from the alchemist, Eddie Topper, the.
• 15:37
  > Dave>Original New England IPA.
• 15:39
  > Julianna>Yeah, right, right.
• 15:42
  > Sean>Well, and I. Big shout out to the alchemist people. Um, the first time I was up there, they were still. The inside was not open for, uh, customers. This time it was open, and they had Heddy topper on hand pull.
• 15:57
  > Dave>Oh, what?
• 15:58
  > Sean>Yeah. Uh, if you think this beer is nice and get some nice creaminess to it, imagine just, uh, all that velvet texture.
• 16:07
  > Sean>Yeah, yeah.
• 16:08
  > Julianna>And, you know, and Kim itch is, like, the perfect person to know. I mean, maybe he's cocky at times about his beer. I don't know. You could hear rumors all. I mean, you can hear rumors all day long. But I love his sense of purity for what it is that he's brewing and that he hasn't screwed around with the recipe at all.
• 16:33
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 16:33
  > Julianna>Like, yeah. Uh, and again, from the first day that this was released up until now, he is not wavered at all. I mean, we all know that this is an expensive beer to brew.
• 16:44
  > Sean>Yes.
• 16:44
  > Julianna>But he's still doing it.
• 16:46
  > Sean>The quality control is there.
• 16:47
  > Julianna>Oh, my gosh. Yes. Yes. And I. And I feel like I'm in Vermont when I drink something like this. I really. I feel like I'm in New England. And could you imagine? A lot. Like, no wonder everyone has a happy smile on their face.
• 17:03
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 17:03
  > Julianna>Wherever you go in that region, it's.
• 17:06
  > Dave>Because they're all high.
• 17:07
  > Sean>Well, yeah.
• 17:08
  > Julianna>High on great beer.
• 17:10
  > Sean>Yes.
• 17:11
  > Dave>Oh, yeah, sure.
• 17:12
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 17:13
  > Julianna>That's what it is.
• 17:16
  > Julianna>Yeah. Okay, so what would we like is, if there's any question, we are, uh, gonna rate hedy topper from the alchemist a five.
• 17:29
  > Dave>Good job, Sean.
• 17:32
  > Sean>Banger's gonna bang.
• 17:33
  > Julianna>I know, right? Good boy. Dave.
• 17:36
  > Dave>Yes.
• 17:36
  > Julianna>What did you bring today?
• 17:39
  > Dave>So the beer I brought is from garden, uh, path fermentation in Burlington, Washington. So not Vermonte. A different Burlington and not the coat factory.
• 17:56
  > Dave>This is called the wet hopped ship, and it is a 5.2% wild ale.
• 18:04
  > Dave>They have fresh, uh, skagit grown hops were added to hot wart.
• 18:11
  > Dave>That's, uh, uh, an I, uh, sugar water pre beer. That's what we call it. Uh, which was chilled overnight in their cool ship. Then it was fermented in an open top fooder and blended with barrel aged beer and then finished, uh, naturally conditioned on honey. So a lot went into this beer.
• 18:35
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 18:36
  > Dave>A lot of really funky, different little things went into it, which kind of reminded me of that albumen. Like, we were talking about all the different, um, little techno things they did some of the, uh, african beats, you know, like hip hop writing style. Uh, the prog rock guitar boy who jumped in there, you know, all that stuff, you know.
• 19:03
  > Sean>Frog rock guitar boy, that probably.
• 19:07
  > Dave>Or it should at least be an album.
• 19:08
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 19:09
  > Dave>Yeah. Prog rock guitar boy. He put that on his business card.
• 19:14
  > Julianna>He might, he should. I'm sure there was an amazing commercial with him on.
• 19:18
  > Dave>It might get some more work. So, um, um, but anyway, so I thought it was kind of funky and cool, and I wanted to bring it and share it, and so I, let's just try it, see what we think.
• 19:36
  > Julianna>Like smacking my lips. There's so much going on here.
• 19:39
  > Sean>Yeah, there is. And all in a good way, right? Yeah, definitely.
• 19:43
  > Dave>Tart, funky.
• 19:46
  > Dave>You can get some of the wood.
• 19:49
  > Julianna>Um, yeah, you're getting some tannins, I think.
• 19:53
  > Dave>You get some of the honey, you.
• 19:55
  > Julianna>Know, on the, on the very end. It's like a sweetened wood funk flavor, if that makes any sense.
• 20:03
  > Dave>I'm not necessarily pulling out a lot of hop flavor.
• 20:07
  > Sean>It's fleeting for me. Like every, some, there's moments where I'm like, okay, that's, that's hops. And then, but the sourness definitely kind of dominates any sort of hop.
• 20:15
  > Julianna>But then, honestly, with the fresh, hot beer.
• 20:17
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 20:18
  > Julianna>Unless you're having it like the day was right, you're gonna, you're not gonna.
• 20:22
  > Sean>How old is this beer, Dave?
• 20:24
  > Dave>Yeah, couple years. But, like, uh, with fresh, hot beers, too, like, you, you kind of want it. You want to make it and get it in the can.
• 20:33
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 20:34
  > Dave>Or sealed up wherever you're gonna put it as fast as possible. And it sounds like they took this through some different steps and everything before they, before they canned it. So I don't know that fresh hop is maybe the best this, I don't know if this is the best use of fresh hops, but I will tell you, just as a beer, this is very tasty.
• 20:58
  > Julianna>It is. And it's very layered in it. It goes really well with the record, I think.
• 21:02
  > Dave>Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:04
  > Julianna>Really good choice.
• 21:05
  > Sean>Yeah, excellent choice.
• 21:06
  > Dave>I was not familiar with this record, this album before, uh, Sean recommended it. Obviously, I know the Talking Heads, but for me, the talking heads is a band that I've always liked, maybe not loved, and, and I usually just follow the hits, you know?
• 21:22
  > Dave>And I think the big hit off this one was once in a lifetime, which is a great, great song.
• 21:27
  > Dave>Like, and, like, really, there's, you know, people get weird about, oh, you only like the hits. You don't like the deep cuts or like, well, there's nothing wrong with liking songs that are very popular. That just means a lot of people liked it.
• 21:39
  > Sean>The other thing is, is, uh, for a number of us in the gen X era, um, your college CD collection definitely had talking heads greatest hits. Yep, one and two. A lot of that. And the violent films, you know?
• 21:51
  > Dave>Yeah, yeah, I think, and I think that kind of thing does a disservice to bands. I mean, I get it. It's like a marketing thing. Like, well, we'll take all of your biggest songs and put them on a one cd. And so guys like me, that's what I'm gonna go for.
• 22:07
  > Sean>Right. Because I don't, I'd have to. Look, I don't think anything else from this album is on those greatest hits. And that really does a disservice to this album. And, yeah, part of the reason why it was years later that I discovered what was going on in this album. Now, that said, talking heads had always been, uh, a part of me from a, you know, burning down the house.
• 22:26
  > Dave>Uh, yeah.
• 22:27
  > Sean>Uh, you know, I wouldn't have vivid memories of going through my uncle's record collection, as you know, and I was like six or seven years old, discovering he had the talking heads. And, oh, he has the album that's got burning down the house on it, whatnot. And so, um, you know, it's kind of like, wow, cool. My uncle was listening to this stuff. Maybe I should be listening to it too. And how cool is my uncle? Because he is listening to this stuff.
• 22:50
  > Dave>That's right.
• 22:51
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 22:52
  > Dave>My uncles did not listen to talking heads.
• 22:55
  > Julianna>I neither did mine journals.
• 22:59
  > Dave>Listen to, like, old russian folk tunes or, um, polkas. Sure.
• 23:05
  > Julianna>Russian choir music.
• 23:08
  > Dave>Nice.
• 23:08
  > Julianna>Or I should say orthodox choir music.
• 23:11
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 23:12
  > Julianna>And then I. Yeah, like, I'm totally envious of what you grew up with, like, what you had around you. The only way that I found out about, like, current music was if I. There was a guy that lived across the street from me.
• 23:29
  > Julianna>Um, and his older brother was into records. His older brother was older. I mean, like, I think he might have been, like, eight or nine years older than me. So he already had the Columbia record thing going on. And I. He was into all the bands that were, like, the rock bands that were current. So that's how I started to know what was going on in the universe. Because if I was left to my parents, the only thing I would know is the Letterman, Doris Day and classical music.
• 23:59
  > Dave>Not, not necessarily during this album, I don't think, but, like, a little bit later on, you know, then MTV comes along.
• 24:05
  > Sean>Yes.
• 24:05
  > Dave>And you, uh, know, bands start making videos and, like, that's a whole other avenue for people to kind of get, to, uh, get exposure. Yeah.
• 24:16
  > Julianna>Oh, sure. And you remember the video, for once in a lifetime, that was like.
• 24:20
  > Sean>Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, so, you know, I was lucky enough, uh, St. Louis, for those that remember there was a station called KHTR, and they, they call themselves, I think, a hot format, but basically they played anything they thought was cool. And. And so it was talking heads. It was a lot of new wave, but you'd hear Michael Jackson and, uh, then they played american top 40, so, uh, on, uh, the weekend. So you got this whole.
• 24:46
  > Dave>Yeah, the radio stations weren't as genre specific all the time there for a long time.
• 24:51
  > Sean>Yeah, yeah. Because I definitely look back at a lot of bands that I know because of that station is like, they were one hit wonders, but they got airplay on that station and, you know, it's kind of, um. Well, yeah, it's it, you know, and then you've got all these nice compilations that are like, hey, here's the one song off of that. But it's like, boy, did you. Going back to our earlier point, you. You don't realize what you're missing if you just have the talking heads greatest.
• 25:14
  > Dave>Hits because there's a lot of cool songs.
• 25:17
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 25:17
  > Dave>You know, that maybe just the A and R guy said, now we're not gonna release this as a single. Yeah.
• 25:26
  > Dave>So.
• 25:26
  > Julianna>Yeah, well, okay, so this beer, the wet hopped ship. Yeah. What shall we rate it?
• 25:35
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 25:35
  > Julianna>Uh, okay. Going with the five.
• 25:40
  > Dave>You said five.
• 25:41
  > Julianna>He said five.
• 25:42
  > Dave>Sean said five, everybody.
• 25:45
  > Dave>I was laying in 405.
• 25:47
  > Julianna>Yeah.
• 25:51
  > Sean>It'S all bangers. It's all bangers. I like this. Yeah, no, it's. That's a really nice choice, Dave. Um, yeah. Especially coming off of a heady top or onto something sour.
• 26:02
  > Julianna>You know, it's just cleanse the palate.
• 26:04
  > Sean>Yes.
• 26:04
  > Julianna>And prepare for more.
• 26:07
  > Sean>Yeah. So.
• 26:08
  > Sean>So what are we drinking?
• 26:10
  > Julianna>I I'm not gonna lie, but I'm a fan of a brewery that's down the street from us.
• 26:15
  > Julianna>When I say down the street, it's really, like, far, far, far, far down the street.
• 26:21
  > Dave>It's actually on a whole different street. And you have to go through about seven different.
• 26:25
  > Julianna>But it's from barique brewing and blending in Tennessee. And it is their grisette, which they have in cans that they've recently. I think this came out when CBC came.
• 26:37
  > Sean>Okay.
• 26:37
  > Dave>This is one of their special releases. Holy smokes, man.
• 26:41
  > Julianna>So a grisette, by definition, is probably one of the lightest table beers that one would find in Europe. Okay. This thing is beautiful.
• 26:53
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 26:53
  > Julianna>Uh, I mean, and for a. Being so little.
• 26:56
  > Julianna>It's not so little.
• 26:57
  > Sean>No.
• 26:58
  > Julianna>In the scheme of things, how little is it? How little is it? It's 3.93 point.
• 27:04
  > Dave>That's perfect.
• 27:05
  > Julianna>Little. It's little, but you might be tiny, but you still can be mighty.
• 27:10
  > Sean>Maybe one day it becomes a four, but right now it's a, you know, three point. Um.
• 27:14
  > Julianna>It's young. It's young. It's growing.
• 27:16
  > Sean>So the thing with barique is that all of their beer touches wood.
• 27:20
  > Julianna>Yes.
• 27:21
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 27:22
  > Julianna>Yes.
• 27:23
  > Sean>Too much information.
• 27:24
  > Julianna>It does. Um, but in a good way.
• 27:28
  > Dave>It's a very good way.
• 27:29
  > Julianna>Yes.
• 27:29
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 27:29
  > Julianna>Yes. You taste the wood, but you taste the beer, and you taste the yeast, and it's everything that's proportional, but still a little funky. And it's just funky enough. Like, this record, you know, which. Yeah. Just brings. Again, I know we've waxed poetic about it, but it brings back so many memories. And honestly, my favorite song on the record is cross eyed and painless.
• 27:55
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 27:55
  > Julianna>Not that.
• 27:56
  > Dave>Is it about you? Do you feel like it's.
• 28:00
  > Julianna>Well, it's about a guy losing his mind, so. What are you trying to say?
• 28:02
  > Julianna>That I'm losing my mind? Sure.
• 28:05
  > Dave>I was just making fun of your.
• 28:06
  > Julianna>Eyes, but I. Oh, well, thanks.
• 28:08
  > Julianna>Thanks.
• 28:09
  > Julianna>So, this was recorded on the islands, and. Yes, again, like, this cracks me up, because they were in the Bahamas recording this, and then they were in Philadelphia recording this.
• 28:20
  > Julianna>You can't get two more completely different spaces.
• 28:24
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 28:24
  > Julianna>Then. Then all of this, you know?
• 28:27
  > Julianna>Um, and then when they recorded it, Chris, um.
• 28:33
  > Julianna>So burn was having issues with the. With some parts.
• 28:39
  > Sean>Yeah. Well, and then also, he was having a hard time trying to be creative in New York.
• 28:43
  > Julianna>Sure, sure. Um, but anyways. But Chris recommended. Hey, why don't you start rapping this?
• 28:49
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 28:49
  > Julianna>And, like, real, you know, I mean, it was a revelation for me. I mean, honestly, because he did it well, and he did it, like, in, like, one or two takes that he got it perfectly, which just cracks me up.
• 29:02
  > Julianna>Then I'm gonna hit you with a little knowledge.
• 29:05
  > Julianna>So, you know, Tony Basil was a popular choreographer at the time.
• 29:11
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 29:11
  > Julianna>You know, and it don't know. She did the home.
• 29:14
  > Julianna>Oh, Mickey.
• 29:15
  > Dave>Hey, Mickey.
• 29:16
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 29:16
  > Julianna>Or, hey, Mickey. Yeah.
• 29:17
  > Sean>She's pretty talented.
• 29:18
  > Julianna>Uh, anyways. Yeah, she is rather talented, but as a choreographer, she was, like, the precursor to what's the girl that's been on, like, the shows m um, Paul Abdul.
• 29:34
  > Sean>Absolutely.
• 29:35
  > Julianna>So, she actually recorded or did the video for this song that, sadly, didn't get a lot of airplay because MTV didn't like it because the band wasn't in it. They just use some dancers that. That Tony was using for maybe her own stuff or whatever.
• 29:52
  > Sean>Well, MTV always knew what was best, right?
• 29:55
  > Dave>Sure.
• 29:56
  > Julianna>Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:58
  > Julianna>Anyways, so it's not that that song completely resonates with me, Dave, thinking that I'm losing my mind, but I just thought it was really interesting because it. It blended so many different genres together. Yeah, but it works so well.
• 30:13
  > Dave>Sure.
• 30:13
  > Julianna>Yeah. Like this beer.
• 30:15
  > Dave>Yeah.
• 30:16
  > Sean>Yeah.
• 30:16
  > Julianna>The beer works so well. And it's so yellow. So what shall we rate? The grisette from barique? Oh, yeah. All right, well, this is a five, and that is gonna do it for another great episode of beer club.
• 30:38
  > Sean>Beer club. Beer club.
• 30:40
  > Julianna>Yes. Good old boy. Sean, thanks for picking this record and thanks for coming out and hanging out with us.
• 30:46
  > Sean>Oh, it has been a pleasure. And, uh, happy to share some Hedi topper with y'all. And, uh. Um, yeah, it's been good talking about this album. It's, uh, uh, it had put it down for a few months and it's always in a constant rotation for me. So it was like, all right, let's crank it up on the stereo and really get into it and drink some heady topper and, uh, uh, train for this, this moment.
• 31:07
  > Julianna>Yes.
• 31:09
  > Dave>Yeah, we're putting in the work here.
• 31:11
  > Julianna>We are putting in the same.
• 31:13
  > Dave>Easy, folks.
• 31:13
  > Julianna>It's not, it's. It can be a struggle at times.
• 31:16
  > Dave>Yes.
• 31:17
  > Julianna>This is good. Ogao, Julianna, thanks for joining us. Keep on chuggling and catch you next time.
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