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Hate, Naked Parents, and Wedding Betrayals · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and That Michelle Chick, the weekly
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podcast where your hosts, Rick and Michelle, confidently dive
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into topics they know absolutely nothing about and somehow make
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it sound legit. They're not experts.
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They're not qualified. Honestly, they barely googled
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it. So grab a drink, lower your
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expectations, and let's pretend this counts as content.
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So buckle up. Facts are optional, but the
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bullshit? That's premium grade.
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This is Rick and that Michelle chick.
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I did see that Robert Redford passed away.
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Yep, very, very sad. One of the the greats.
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One of the one of the last of the greats I guess of of
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Hollywood. Which I tried to think back if
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I've ever seen an actual movie that he's been in, I'm sure I
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have, you know, maybe when I was younger, but I, I honestly don't
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remember. And I think growing up I would
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always confuse him with Paul Newman for some reason.
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So easy. Yeah, both, both legendary, both
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great. So indecent proposal is Robert
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Redfern OK? OK, I did see.
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That's Robert Redfern. OK, I knew, you know that one.
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I knew if I dropped that one, a great one with Michelle Pfeiffer
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is called up close and personal where they're both they're both
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competing at ATV radio TV station as as reporters.
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That's in the that's in the middle 90s, a great one called
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sneakers, Butch Cassidy, the Sundance Kid, there's a bunch of
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the early Robert Redferns. That's, you know, all the
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president's been. I mean, they, he was, he was
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definitely he's like Dustin Hoffman, he's like Michael
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Douglas. I mean, he's he's that level to
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where that he's considered one of the greats.
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Rain, yeah. No, boy, I mean, I mean the, the
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we were talking off microphone before we started the the
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podcast was what's really changed, I think in theaters is
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it's so rare that a name packs a theater anymore.
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And people like Robert Redfern or John Wayne or Julia Roberts
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or Denzel Washington back in the day, name value alone, even on a
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bad movie, could pack a pack a movie.
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Theater. The Cary Grants of the World.
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Right. And so, so I, I put Robert
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Redford in that. I think Tom Cruise for me is
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like, I, I think Tom Cruise is really the last.
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They're saying he's kind of the last of the movie stars to where
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people go to see, I'm going to go see a Tom Cruise movie.
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Not going to go no matter what it was so a.
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List of the movie. Yeah, Jack Nicholson would be in
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that those. Yep.
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But but now you're not even guaranteed because of streaming
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all that's available to everybody now you're not
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guaranteed a billion dollar movie.
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So if it's a Pedro Pascal, you're saying you're not
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guaranteed? I know you're, I know you're a
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big fan of Pedro Pascal, but I've watched several movie
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reviewers talk about, let's say the Fantastic Four movie that
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came out or different movies he's been in.
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And, and she was talking about the fact that we've taken people
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like, let's say Pedro Pascal or Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth,
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and we've tried to make them into that next marquee, you
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know, and, and the interesting thing they discovered, at least
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with the Chris Evans and the Chris Hemsworth is outside of
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Marvel, Robert Downey Junior, outside of Marvel, people don't
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go see them in their independent films.
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Yeah, so they could just a regular movie, Yeah, even like a
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ROM com or something with them in it.
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People wouldn't go see. Yeah.
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Same as Pedro Pascal because I think he had two movies out at
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the same time and the same month.
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So like 3 movies out. Yeah, yeah.
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And, and each of them did different according to to who
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was going to go see, who's going to go see those movies.
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So, but Robert Redfern back in the day, he was one of those
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guys that that people would go to see and he was in a Marvel
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movie. He was in Captain America, he
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was the, he was one of the directors of SHIELD, if you're
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just curious about that. And he's a great actor.
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He's a great actor and there's a lot of great movies from him.
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So sad to see they passed away. Yeah, definitely.
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Also another passing was Charlie Kirk.
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This. Charlie Kirk and and I know we,
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you know, it's one of those things where I purposely have
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tried to stay off social media because of it.
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I don't know about Michelle. Again, I'll say this as you
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know, basic as I can, nobody, nobody deserves to die.
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But before for their beliefs and and their freedom of speech.
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You are, you are allowed to say whatever you think you want to
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say. Consequences.
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That may be a different argument for a lot of people.
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I just know that it's one of those things where I, I, I'm
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really torn up on it because on one hand, I just want to, I just
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want to get off social media because it's so venomous out
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there on, on, and I'm going to say it bluntly on both sides.
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But definitely, yeah. And, and The thing is, a lot of
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people don't realize that you've got extremes on both sides,
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whether you're a extreme Democrat or you're extreme
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Republican. And there's a bunch of us that
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are down the middle. And so I don't we, we try not to
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talk about politics on this, you know, because it's just I.
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I have a little bit. A little bit I don't like again,
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I just so my foster mom, this I, I, I, my foster mom when I was a
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young kid, it was she was very, she was religious, religious,
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but I never heard them talk about politics.
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And so in her mind with me as a little kid was I don't, she
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didn't care what your politics were.
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She didn't really care what how you know religion is.
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It's like you're going to be a good person.
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That's it. That's.
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What I was going to say, as long as you're a good person.
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I remember asking my grandma one time who she voted for and she
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said, you know, that is my own personal.
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I like that. Thing and I am not going to
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share that with you. Like I regard it as something
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sacred almost is kind of how she described it.
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And so I. Can't.
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Yeah. So I've kind of tried to carry
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that on if people will ask me, well, who did you vote for?
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And that's basically my response.
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That's a personal sacred thing that I value that I don't really
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want to share with you because usually when you do say who you
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voted for, then it's like, well, why did you vote for them?
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Why? You know, you have to justify
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it. Why I like?
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It shouldn't have to be that way.
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And that's what I want to bring up too, is like, why do I have
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to defend myself number one to complete strangers?
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I, I think that, that, I think that's the, I think that's the
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double edged sword of the social media is it's like, and it was
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interesting. A Co worker came in, Co worker
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came in the, the morning of and we were on the air.
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We did not talk about it on the country station cause the top of
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the hour news had it. And Patty and myself just said,
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hey man, let's just not touch it.
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It's not worth it. It's really, I mean, it's hard
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in radio. I think we've talked about that,
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you know, the 9 elevens and you, you have to acknowledge it, but
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you. Can't and then we're there,
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bring it and then we're there. We're there to play music.
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I look at it like, Hey, I'm on a I'm on a music station.
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So it's not that you don't want to mention it or that it's not
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important or that you don't have views on it, but it's like, if
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that's not what we're there for now, if you're on our sister
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station, Kona AM or KIT in Yakima, they're going to talk
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about that. And on a music station, it's
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just something we we kind of avoid.
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But I know a Co worker came in on that morning and he had said
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as he and we were on the air little after 7, he came in and
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goes, he goes, Oh, my heart, my heart is heavy, you know, about
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the shooting. And and he's a conservative.
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He goes, I'm a conservative. And you know, I'm really
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heartbroken about that. And I said, well, I said, I'm
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sorry, I'm sorry on the loss. And I just I kind of just
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forewarned him. I said, I just want to forewarn
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you that, you know, that we may not line up.
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We may not line up politically. I didn't say anything bad.
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Well, no, you mean. That and I and and I said I'm
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more frustrated. I'm more frustrated for us that
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that's down the middle. So you and I've talked a lot
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about about that I would be considered and I will just said
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I'm considered a Blue Dog Democrat.
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Yeah. So there are things about there
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are things about the Republican platform that I like death
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penalty. You already know how I feel.
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About that are down the middle. Right.
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A lot of America is I'm a death penalty guy, Second Amendment.
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I grew up on a ranch. I grew up with with a shotguns
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in the back of a truck. Now where I draw the line in,
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in, in arms and all that is what level does is someone allowed to
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have what's this? What's an appropriate level?
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Does someone need an AK, you know, AK17 or under 15 or
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whatever to go shoot an elk or something?
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So there's. They're not though, because they
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you can't hunt with that, right? But, but so, yeah, so, so to me,
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there's these levels, I'm not trying to control it.
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I'm just saying, yes, I, I think you have the right to bear arms.
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I do believe in that. I also believe in the 1st
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Amendment, Hey, it's your freedom of speech now.
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You're not free from consequences.
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So what's interesting right now is a lot of people are losing
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their jobs. That's why I didn't want to
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dwell. I didn't want to dwell too deep
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into it because it's like, if my bosses are listening to this
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podcast, they could go, well, Rick da, da, da, da.
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And so it's like, I, I need, I need the paycheck.
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So it, it's just the reality of, you know, that's why I, that's
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why I didn't, I didn't want to touch on it too much, but but I
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really worry for the people and even from the Republicans that
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are, are down the middle too. Not, not every Republican is
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extreme. Not every Democrat is not every
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independent is extreme. You got it on both sides.
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And how can we come together and, and make the whole country
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a better place? And why, why does it have to be
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so tribal? People treat it like it's like
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it's sports. Yes, like you're, if you're not
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a Seahawks fan, you're a piece of crap.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're allowed to like other teams.
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What what I mean so and? The The funny thing is, if we
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actually do sit down and talk to each other, we have way more in
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common than any of us even realize we do.
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And if we just sat down and really talked to each other and
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listened and it wasn't, oh, well, you're this and you're
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that. So I hope you die.
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Or because I've heard people on the other side say that about my
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view that people like me should die.
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And so that's how can, how can you rationalize and talk to
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someone who thinks that way about you because of your
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belief? I, I thought about it one time
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as I was sitting in the studio was thinking about, you know, on
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either side. Let's say, let's, let's say
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there was Democrats outside and they were beating the living
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crap out of Republican, you know what I'm saying?
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And, and only because of their views, not any other reason
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would, would you intervene and go, hey man, break it up.
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And that's, and that's on the flip side of a Democrat getting
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the crap kicked at him by, you know, 4 massive Republican guys
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on, on both sides. My my foster mom would not allow
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either like like Pearl would have stepped in and.
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She would have. Shut that shit down.
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She would shut that shit down. And what's amazing about my
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yeah, what's amazing about my foster mom is besides me, they
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they had six kids. They have three boys and three
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girls. They're all politically
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diametrically different. So it's interesting growing up
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on the ranch, growing up on the ranch, they are politically
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different and they love each other and they get along and
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when they get together for family dinner, they don't talk
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about it. Great.
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They don't, you know, they know where everybody.
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They know where everybody stands.
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A great example, my foster brother Doug, lives in Riggins,
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Idaho. He's got a he's got a cattle
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ranch. He's a Republican, which is
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fine. My foster sister, Kathy, lives
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in Baker City. She's a retired school teacher.
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So which way is she going to lean?
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And her, her and her husband and all of them, including Doug and
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Debbie and Gary and all of them are the most wonderful people
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I've ever met in my entire life. And I never once thought being
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their foster brother, that they that they would judge me by my
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political leanings or which way which way I go.
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And I've said this multiple times.
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I flipped. I flipped.
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I grew up in the Lewis Clark Valley.
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I remember that my first job was shovelling manure for my, my
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school counselor and Mr. Mr. John Rollins, who basically
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saved my life from the Wallaces, gave me a part time job on
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Saturday mornings shovelling manure.
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And it's funny, we would sit down at lunch and we would talk
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about the things of the day. And I was probably, what, 161516
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years old? And he was a staunch Democrat.
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And at the time, I was a staunch Republican because I was
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influenced by Michael J Fox, Alex B Keaton.
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I mean, I, you know, you're a kid, number one, you're 15.
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No life experience. Right.
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You're a kid. You're a kid.
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You're 15-6 years old. And so we would sit there.
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We would sit there and we would, we would talk the discussion of
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the day. One of the most fascinating
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things I, I, I, I want to tell you about John, Mr. Rollins is,
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and I learned his back story. He was a Catholic priest for 20
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years and he gave up his faith and became an atheist.
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And I thought that was most fascinating.
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And I asked him and I asked him why.
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And he goes, well, I fell in love.
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And so his wife Gina was a nun. So, so for 20 years he was a
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Catholic priest. Gina was a nun.
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They fell in love and and by the time I had met them, they had
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been married 20 plus years and he'd been an educator for 20
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plus years. So when I met Mr. Rawlins, he's
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probably 75 years old. So I thought, I absolutely
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thought that's that love story was fascinating.
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I thought to myself, what made him like literally lose faith?
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Because remember, we talked about that I'm an agnostic,
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which means I, I neither disbelieve nor do I, I don't
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know. I just don't know the answer and
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it's not and it's not worth me. It's not worth me getting in a
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fight with a stranger about it because it's it's like you said
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and a religion I really believe is personal.
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Mm hmm. Yeah.
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And and why do you and why do we have to defend that to anybody?
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Well, because it's out there on social media now where before it
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wasn't, you know, you didn't know every little last detail
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about somebody. You know what they were having
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for dinner that night because that's social media now.
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You know anything and everything about somebody and now it's in
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your face sometime. Yeah.
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And so I'm very, I was very influenced by John and Gina when
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I learned, when I heard their love story.
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And I went and I went. The Catholic faith would not let
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Mr. Rollins marry. And I went I, I, I go like this.
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I can't be a part of something that would take that from
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somebody or want to take that from somebody.
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So and so it's funny looking. And sadly, John and Gina have
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passed away many, many years ago.
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They'd be laughing right now if they knew.
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But the, you know, that after that, I, I made the big, I made
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the big flip. But again, it's not the big flip
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because like you said, we have more in common than what you
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think. There are things from both
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parties that, that, that I take from it.
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I voted, I voted for Bush. I voted for Clinton.
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I voted for Obama. I mean, I I voted for Bush
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Senior, but my first time I got to vote, I did not vote for
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Dukakis. No new taxes.
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Right. I, I did not vote for Dukakis
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because I was a Ronald Reagan fan.
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So and so, but, but I look at, but I look at John McCain,
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Republicans like John McCain. I look, they're not extremists.
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They're not. They are and I would I would
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always. I love that.
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I love that great video where the the one the John McCain
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video where he's talking about Obama and the lady's like he
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he's illegal. He wasn't born here.
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Muslim. Or whatever she said to.
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John McCain. John McCain said it exactly how
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I believe. He's like, no, ma'am, we
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disagree on the fundamentals of running the country, but he is a
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good person and I, and these are the things that that I that I
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inherently believe. So I didn't mean to get off on
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it because I just felt like we had to talk about, about the
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situation, but it made me I for the first time, and you know,
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you know me, I've always been an optimist.
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I truly, I truly believe in the good of people.
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I believe the majority of people are good.
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And I sat on the a couple days after that, sad, that sad
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situation, I sat on my back porch with my dogs and I went.
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And for the first time in my entire life, I went.
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You know what? Logan's right.
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Why did I bring him into this world?
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Oh goodness. So I so I had that.
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I had that. Have you ever had that thought?
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I mean, I know you have 4 wonderful kids.
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They're all incredibly successful, but but my brain
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just went because my son always brings up that argument with me
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all the time. Like, why did you bring me into
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this world? Dad and and I, I always try to
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have an answer like, hey man, while you're here, you can make
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a difference. I mean, you know, because you
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know, dead post society is my favorite movie Carpa diem seats
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the day B you know, it doesn't matter where you come from.
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You, you have the opportunity to be more or to leave something to
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to to to help the world in some way.
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And for that one moment on my back porch, I went, man, I don't
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have the answers at all. I right, which I my kids aren't
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really they don't ever they've never said anything like that to
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me. Like oh, why would you bring me
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into this world? I personally in my mind think
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OK, what what kind of future or what is this world going to look
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like in 20-30 forty years? Take my grandchild.
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What, what does their world look like?
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And they are an infant that worries me and scares me more, I
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think, than what they even realized.
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And and they, and they might not voice it to me.
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I don't know. They could think those things,
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but they've never, you know, said that to me.
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But that's where. I sit with all of it.
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Yeah, well, and that's why Logan is refusing to give me
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grandchildren. So if you know and you know how
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I feel about that. Babe.
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I should be a grandfather. I deserve to be a grandfather.
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So yeah, I just do. It's one of those it's and and
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if I in looking back, I've also made the I've always said this.
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If I had known that he was going to be that way, I would have had
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two, I wouldn't I wouldn't have stopped it.
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One, I have my stepson Kyron. I mean, yes, I have my stepson
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Kyron. See, Kyron could have a kid you.
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Don't know exactly, exactly and, but, but Logan and I, I mean,
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because I, you know, because I did not have a great
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relationship with my father or I did not have the relationship I
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wanted with my father. I looked at Logan as my lineage
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to, to be like, there's me, Logan and then my grandson that,
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that lineage. So and that's that's important
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to me, but it's going to die. So my lineage is I'm dead.
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So if you don't like Rick Michaels, guess what?
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I'm dead. You know, there's always,
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there's always oopses or accidents.
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I mean, you don't. Know he won't do it he won't do
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it I'm, you know exactly I try not to interfer in that he yeah,
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obviously he's taking great care.
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We talked to he talked about getting a vasectomy and I gave
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him I you know what, being his dad, I gave him the information.
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I said, here's what you got to do, because I mean, I had that
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years ago and and so I mean, I would never again.
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It's his choice. I'm I'm bummed out about it, but
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I still believe that while you're here, you can be a good.
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I mean, thank you, thank you Pearl, you know, thank you Pearl
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and Russell, thank you mom and dad.
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You can, you can be more than what you are and you can
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contribute and you have a voice. And do you want that voice to be
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of hate or do you want that voice to be of reason and love
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and, and to your fellow man? And I, I think, I think the sad
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thing about social media is people talk a lot of shit on
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social media that they would never say to your face.
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Definitely. They don't have the courage to
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say it to your face. And that's and that's and so
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why? So again, why be like that?
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Because it makes you feel good as a person.
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The person putting it out there, they feel good and they're kind
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of a group now, like you just said.
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You're a mob mentality. It's a mob.
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It's a mob mentality. You belong right, to this group
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or this special thing that is only in the know of this
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information and now you're part of that group.
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And so it makes you feel special as a person and part of
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something which is understandable.
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That's us as human beings, so. It is and and and again it's
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like and and. You can't just take it.
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I mean, I, I was disappointed in a lot.
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I have a lot of great friends on Facebook and I was disappointed
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in a lot. And I understand it was the
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moments and it is, it is a tragedy and it's sad, but I, I
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saw a lot of hate and I, I and, and, and again, you know, I
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guess I just need it more defined like, because some
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people say, you know, Democrats explain it or liberals or I
20:41
mean, they or whatever. It's like, and I just, I didn't
20:45
feel like I didn't want to engage in any of those
20:47
conversations. I just felt like just, yeah, and
20:49
I've also thought about the last week because of that, that
20:52
situation, just getting off social media like, but but I'm
20:56
able to keep in contact with people that that I normally
20:59
never would keep in contact with.
21:02
So that's why I love social media.
21:04
That's why I like social media. There are people that like you
21:07
said in high school that I never would have been friends with.
21:10
And now I'm friends with on social media.
21:11
And like you said, we have more in common, not religiously,
21:15
politically, but we went to high school together, you know, we
21:19
know each other different things like that.
21:21
And I and I love having them. You know, I love being able to
21:24
communicate with them. And I'm and I'm not a pick up a
21:26
phone kind of guy, you know, I'm not.
21:28
Hate it. No you're not.
21:29
I don't even answer your text messages after.
21:31
The third one, right, So it's easier for me just to get on
21:34
social media and hey, happy anniversary, happy birthday.
21:37
Hey, Congrats on the success, all these different things.
21:39
It's much more easier for me to do that than me pick up the
21:42
phone. And so for all the good that I
21:44
enjoy about social media this last week, I'm like, man, I just
21:47
want to get off because because of just the.
21:51
Just detox. Well, yeah, and, and it and it
21:54
just went. It just flooded, flooded it and
21:57
on both on both sides. And it's scary.
21:59
And like you said, it's scary. And I will leave you with a
22:02
little story. Saturday morning, I was at Yokes
22:06
and this could have been, this could have been any random
22:08
person. It just happened to be this kind
22:10
of person. So this guy, so there's a person
22:12
in the poor chat. The poor cashier had one.
22:14
It was 6:30 in the morning. So there's only one cashier
22:17
working at Yokes. And so there was two people in
22:21
front of me and there was like a college kid behind me.
22:23
There was a woman behind him. And then this guy walks up and
22:28
he's wearing his Trump hat and he's like, oh, I'm here to he
22:31
goes, I'm here to get a can of Copenhagen.
22:33
So he gets in line and then he looks at the line.
22:36
We're all in line. And he goes.
22:38
He goes, what do you guys think of Charlie Kirk?
22:40
And, and he saw the college kid who had glasses.
22:44
He was wearing like, you know, shorts or whatever.
22:47
And, and he just immediately goes, yeah, I know you don't
22:50
care, looking at the college kid.
22:52
So for me, while I was in line, I just turned my back.
22:55
I went OK, it's 6:30 in the morning.
22:57
I want to buy some. I want to buy some.
22:59
Trying to start shit with all the people in the.
23:03
Line and that is not and I don't want and I do not want to put
23:05
that as that's that's who that is.
23:07
I'm just saying, but it made me so instead of confronting the
23:10
guy, which I wanted to do like man, I'm but but I'm like it's
23:13
6:30 in the morning. I'm just trying to buy some I'm
23:15
just trying to buy some damn groceries.
23:17
So I turned my back to him. You know what I'm saying?
23:19
I mean, in line, because you know how you're facing like
23:20
that, you know, in line I went like, Nope, not will not will
23:25
not engage. And so, but I couldn't believe
23:28
that may and, and maybe even on both sides.
23:31
It's like, why go out in public? Why?
23:33
And I felt bad for that cashier because they were, they were in
23:36
this line. You know, we're all in this
23:38
line. And the college kid was cool.
23:40
He was great. He goes, he goes, hey, man, just
23:41
calm down. He just goes, hey man, calm
23:42
down. Right.
23:43
He's just trying to defuse the situation regardless of what
23:47
what? But that guy made a judgment
23:49
call on on what the. College.
23:51
How you looked? How he looked, it wasn't because
23:55
because, and and even I make it a different call because it
23:57
looked like a college kid. I could be totally wrong.
23:59
It could have been homeless. I don't know.
24:00
But but but he looked like a young, you know, early 20s.
24:06
He was, he was dressed well and, and it's 6:30 in the morning.
24:10
So you, you know, and you good looking dude, I guess.
24:13
But so I just had to turn my back.
24:16
I'm like, no. And it, and it's one of those
24:18
things. And I remember, and it was
24:19
interesting that I've seen it on, I've seen it on both sides
24:22
cause Megan's uncle is on the other side and he was posting
24:27
and I saw him say something and somebody underneath goes, Hey,
24:29
man, can you just put it to a rest?
24:30
Can you just rest it? So it's like, OK, it's it, it's
24:35
on. It's on both sides.
24:36
And so I think that and it makes me wonder about Martin Luther
24:40
King. We did not live during John F
24:42
Kennedy. We did not live during Bobby
24:43
Kennedy or or Martin Malcolm X. We were.
24:46
I was born. Yeah.
24:47
Could you imagine? I just, I thought of myself, the
24:50
hostility. Yeah, because what, There were
24:53
five set or within what, four years?
24:57
Five of them were assassinated. Yeah.
24:59
Can, yeah, can you? But can you be?
25:01
Wrong on the years, but. Yeah, thinking about that, it's
25:03
like, yeah, we think that the we think that the tension is, you
25:06
know, high. Now, I couldn't imagine living
25:09
in the 60s where that that that existed, right.
25:13
So I will say it was interesting.
25:15
I saw Taylor Swift go behind a bulletproof thing.
25:17
Did you see that at the Chiefs, that you're a big Swifty fan?
25:20
No, I didn't see that. So what they did was she arrived
25:23
at the the football game on the weekend and it was almost like,
25:26
is it is it called a wardrobe gate?
25:28
What's the big thing you when you get dressed behind this
25:30
wardrobe thing I. Don't know I you've.
25:34
Seen it like. Yeah, I've seen it if you're in.
25:36
The heart video, these dreams, Nancy goes behind it and change
25:39
his clothes. I I don't know what it's called.
25:41
It's a wardrobe thing. Well, they had, they had a
25:44
walking, they, they, they had a walking one.
25:48
So she was going down the tarmac this walking, this walking
25:51
wardrobe. Going with her like she was
25:54
bulletproof. So yeah, so tater's like like
25:57
this. That's crazy.
25:59
It's like the Pope Mobile but for a.
26:01
Tailor. Yeah, but you couldn't see her.
26:02
It was like she was behind. There so.
26:04
OK, it was black. It was jet black.
26:07
And apparently they said it was bulletproof.
26:08
So, and, and I guess that the stadium was on high, high alert
26:13
high. Security, I was going to say,
26:14
there has to be some reason. Or it was interesting.
26:17
It was, and it was after the Charlie Kirk situation.
26:20
So again, I do not condone violence in any form from a
26:24
political, religious standpoint, any of those things.
26:27
That is not the answer. You are allowed.
26:30
You are allowed to say and do what you want.
26:32
This is America, I 100% believe that.
26:36
That is the First Amendment. So whether you it could be gross
26:40
hate speech, whatever. I don't like the amendment.
26:42
I don't like it from either side.
26:44
I hate all of it. I don't want to be a part of it.
26:46
And I hate when I get drug into it and I hate when it makes me
26:49
feel, you know, sick to my stomach that that that's the
26:52
country we live in. I just didn't realize, didn't
26:54
realize that we really hate each other that much.
26:57
I hope we. I hope we don't.
26:59
Yeah, well, let's hope so. Let's hopefully with our podcast
27:02
we can make people not hate each other.
27:04
Be kind to each other, be kind to each other, be kind to each
27:08
other. There's, I like what you said
27:09
when we started it. There's common ground.
27:11
If you, if you just, if people would just have the
27:14
conversation, I think you, you would discover that.
27:17
But people, people #1 AII think, I think AI is dangerous.
27:22
We definitely think, although I do like it for something well.
27:25
Of course I like, I like, I like the cats and dogs talking to
27:28
each other on TikTok. I think.
27:30
I mean, there's a ton of things I love, you know, I mean, I
27:34
like, I mean, there's a lot of great things that again, it
27:36
comes down to. There's a lot of great things
27:38
social media does, but then there's also the, the, the, the
27:40
lies or the fabrications and, and all, and all these different
27:44
things too. And that's, that's even from the
27:46
other side too. I mean, if you've seen it to
27:48
you, you, you can't just, you know, if from either side.
27:52
I mean, I almost felt like being an independent going forward.
27:55
Like, yeah, maybe I'm just an independent.
27:56
Todd. Todd Lyons.
27:57
Obviously, I mean, a lot of people do fall into that camp as
28:01
independents so. Yeah.
28:03
Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, because like you
28:05
said, if you're down the middle, if you're a blue dog like I am
28:09
down the middle, it's like, yeah, I, I have.
28:12
But again, I've always voted my conscience.
28:17
I've always voted, please, going to do a good job, or at least
28:19
who I think is going to do a good job, right?
28:22
I've never voted right down like like party lines anyway even
28:27
though I may be registered as one, I don't always when I get
28:30
my ballots. In some states, you have to be
28:32
either or. You have to be registered as
28:34
Democrat, Republican. You can't be independents.
28:36
But I but again, I vote, you know, I vote.
28:40
I vote where I want where I want to.
28:42
Right. And that's the majority of the
28:44
people. So hopefully that that you know,
28:47
won't won't turn you off of the the podcast with my little my
28:50
little opinion there, It's not. Really a Rick rant.
28:53
We can't call it a Rick. Rant.
28:54
It's not a Rick rant you haven't done because.
28:56
You weren't, like, amped up. Yeah, You weren't like.
28:59
My wife to this day has never heard of Rick Rant so.
29:02
She has never. No, she's never heard.
29:04
No, no, I've never done it in front of her.
29:06
How is that possible? She she says that that she hears
29:11
their legendary and people talk about them all the time.
29:13
And she goes. I've never, I've never heard
29:15
one. No, she's lucky.
29:19
I mean, there's still time. There's still time, Megan.
29:22
There's still time. It's it's comedy, it's comedy
29:25
goal. If I if I could bottle that and
29:27
make it a comedy show, I'd make $1,000,000.
29:31
Gosh, you'd be hoarse by like the 1st 10 minutes because
29:34
you're just like, OK, well let's move on because I want to, I
29:38
want to talk about Charlie Sheen.
29:40
I watched the documentary. Did you watch it?
29:42
I did not. I've seen some interviews for
29:44
it. I've seen some interviews for
29:45
it. OK so this is my opinion and
29:50
it's going to be biased because as a teenager I loved him and
29:54
his brother Emilio and Kiefer Sutherland.
29:56
I had their little pin UPS from the Teen Beat magazine all over
30:01
my bedroom wall. Yeah, I like Charlie.
30:03
Sheen yeah, so the so I liked the documentary, although he did
30:08
seem to be a little bit vague or beat around the Bush maybe is a
30:15
better description. I don't know.
30:18
There might be a better way to say that just in how he would
30:21
talk about things. And it could be because he has a
30:24
book also coming out, the Book of Sheen, or it's out that's.
30:29
It by the book that's. Exactly why?
30:31
I mean, he did address things. I'll give an example and the
30:35
spoiler alert. So towards the end, the director
30:39
or whoever it is asking him questions, they clear the room
30:43
to ask him the the rumor questions or the tough
30:47
questions. So like the question about Corey
30:50
Haim, I don't know if you remember that.
30:52
Oh, I know. I know the story.
30:54
Well, yes. Right, so they asked him that
30:56
and then they asked him about if he the rumors about him having
31:01
sex with men and he so it's almost like he took the long way
31:07
to answer it. He talks about, you know, you
31:09
have this menu and you, you know, you eat all everything on
31:13
this side and then you turn it over and you're like, oh, what's
31:16
this? And then you order off that
31:18
side. So that's kind of like how he
31:21
answered the question. Yes, he did.
31:24
I mean, he did say yes to some degree to that, but it's like
31:28
just just answer the question. Just get to it.
31:33
You know, yes, he has kids that are going to see this and hear
31:37
this, and it's probably and he mentions it a couple times in
31:40
the documentary. It's reliving this stuff.
31:44
The shame that you feel, he. Says he's not that person.
31:48
I saw an interview when they talked, when they asked about
31:50
that, the tiger blood of the winning.
31:52
He even said this interview with CBS when he goes, that's not me.
31:55
I don't know who that person is, right?
31:57
You know he goes. I'm going to drug and deuce
31:59
Haze. Yes, which you you'll have to
32:02
watch it because how they get him off of drugs.
32:06
I was shocked. So now you have to go watch it
32:09
because I'm not going to tell you.
32:10
So you got to go watch it. So it's great.
32:13
But one things one of the things that they Charlie did mention in
32:17
his documentary that made me think of something as a child.
32:22
So Charlie talks about how he came home when he was a kid and
32:26
his mom and dad were going through their nudist phase so.
32:32
Yeah. They were nude.
32:35
So they were nude like walking around the house.
32:39
Keep in mind they're in Hollywood.
32:41
Yeah. This is where he grew up.
32:42
He grew up with Sean Penn. They show like the childhood
32:46
videos that they would all make together, and Sean Penn's in it
32:49
and George Clooney. So yes, they're in Hollywood.
32:53
So maybe this is more of a Hollywood thing than those of us
32:56
that lived out in America. But he says that his mom and dad
33:00
were going through their nudist phase and they were just
33:02
wandering around the house nude, which reminded me of when I was
33:07
growing up. So my dad would come home from
33:10
work and take a shower and then walk around the house naked.
33:15
He would sit in his recliner. Yes, yes, I'm like, yes, this
33:19
reminded me of this. He would sit in his recliner
33:22
like his butt cheeks on there. Everything, everything,
33:26
everything on the recliner. And I think when I was about, I
33:30
want to say 7 or 8, my mom finally said something to him,
33:36
said, you know, you have a daughter, you should probably
33:40
not walk around the house nude anymore.
33:44
And so he would just put on like these really short, short cut
33:48
off Jean shorts that he had like still wasn't like covering a
33:52
lot. Thankfully he did cover his
33:57
private bits once I got a little bit older now myself and my
34:01
husband never walked around nude in front of our kids.
34:04
I don't know about you. No, no Logan.
34:07
So I've never outside of outside of Logan after he was a toddler,
34:12
I never saw Logan's junk. I never saw.
34:14
I never saw my foster dad's junk.
34:16
I never saw my real dad's junk. I didn't walk around nude in
34:19
front of. I am not that guy.
34:21
I will say, though, what's interesting is I have some good
34:24
friends and they'd come, come, come down camping from Seattle
34:29
and they had three daughters. Great.
34:31
They're a great family. They come down to the Bogan's
34:33
Oasis and they had a little camper.
34:35
And, and I remember, I want to say the first time I ever saw,
34:39
ever saw a grown man's, you know, is he came out of the
34:43
shower. It was in a camper, right?
34:45
It was in a camper. And his daughters were a varying
34:48
age at the time. They're probably like what 8,
34:50
97, whatever they're they're all close in age right, never him
34:54
coming out buck naked and I went what you know now he didn't
34:59
didn't do anything. He just went and got dressed.
35:01
But that was the first time I went whoa, hello, hello.
35:04
But it was. Like no big deal to him, he was
35:05
just. Like no, no big deal.
35:06
And the girls and the yeah, and the girls didn't didn't react at
35:11
all. So so.
35:11
He probably did all the time. What's that?
35:14
He probably did it all the time for.
35:16
Them and, and for me, I've, you know, I've, I've, I've always
35:22
said if I, if I was packing 12 inches, I'd walk around naked
35:26
all day long. But, but that is not the case.
35:28
So to me, I'm more modest about it.
35:30
I have heard nudists talk about how freeing it is, literally and
35:35
figuratively. So they talk about obviously not
35:39
having to wear clothes. That freedom, but the freedom of
35:43
not feeling the shame when they don't wear their clothes, just
35:48
being completely naked and not give a shit, basically, that
35:54
they are just nude. Obviously they're in a nudist
35:56
colony, they're not wandering around the grocery store nude.
35:59
But. Yeah, but, you know, but you're
36:00
going to be sadly disappointed because, you know, Logan and I
36:03
should joke about that a lot, you know, when he was younger.
36:06
Oh, I want to see Nick, you know, want to go to new, you
36:08
know, nudist beach where I'm like, dude, you're going to be
36:11
sadly disappointed. It's going to be a bunch of 75
36:13
year olds out there. Right.
36:15
I mean, in Europe they have topless beaches.
36:17
Nudity isn't, of course, such a big deal in.
36:19
Europe now maybe in France and Europe and all that, you're
36:22
going to find the more toned bodies, but usually in the
36:25
United States it's going to be, it's going to be Uncle Fred.
36:30
Right. Yeah, so so.
36:32
That's prudishness. But that is that I get.
36:36
Yeah, that's now. Do you recall?
36:39
I remember, oh, it's not like once, once that memory came back
36:45
to me, I was like, oh, because I would OK, OK, keep in mind my
36:50
dad was probably, I want to say he was 511, maybe taller, might
36:56
have been taller. And if I was 7-8, so I would
37:01
have been right, you know, like eye level.
37:04
He was like standing there. And so I remember distinctly,
37:09
it's just like standing there when he would come out of the
37:14
shower and just having that his, his jug right in my face when
37:20
I'm like 7-8. I mean, obviously I, I don't, I
37:24
don't remember really thinking about it or understanding what
37:29
was happening. And so it was a, it wasn't a big
37:33
deal at the time for me. Looking back on it now I'm going
37:37
Oh my God it was like eye level staring at me.
37:40
But one thing I one thing I hated about the Wallaces to this
37:44
day, to this day is when we were 1213 years old, let's say they
37:50
were watching, you know, a movie.
37:52
Let's say they're watching Porky's or whatever.
37:54
And if there was nudity, they'd always make us cover our eyes.
37:58
Oh. As a kid, I thought that's I
38:00
mean looking I like that's ridiculous great.
38:03
And so I just it's like I'm already a modest person.
38:07
It's like I wouldn't you know, I but but for Logan, when Logan
38:10
was a was a teenager or an early teen.
38:13
Not that I would let him go watch a movie like Porky's, but
38:16
but if there was a. Scene of nothing.
38:18
I didn't just go close. Shut your, you know, shut your
38:20
eyes. I always, I just never
38:23
understood that. And I know that there are some
38:25
people that are like that, like, hey, cover your eyes.
38:27
Cover your eyes. I'm like, they're boobs.
38:30
Right. They're, they're boobs, you
38:31
know, and so or what or whatever, you're whatever you're
38:34
watching and then and then you're like, well, why are we
38:36
watching this? And if it's not appropriate.
38:38
Anyway, right, that's what I was going to say.
38:39
Why were you, why were you guys even watching it then?
38:42
I mean, my kids would not be watching something like that.
38:44
What was he? OK, so the 80s.
38:47
But remember the 80s? So you had shows like What
38:50
Meatballs, which or, or was it Animal House?
38:54
I mean, it was those quick flashes of, you know, it wasn't
38:58
like, yeah, it wasn't like, you know.
39:01
Just nudity, nudity, nudity. Staring right at.
39:03
You right, right you watched Remember, Remember airplane, the
39:07
movie airplane where the plane's going down and there's that
39:09
quick flash of these, you know so they knew that Wallace's new
39:14
one that was going all right, get ready to cover your eyes,
39:16
you know, and that quick. I'm like, it's boobs, man, it's
39:19
boobs but but so I never did that to my kid.
39:22
I didn't. I never wanted to and and job.
39:25
To make just male and female body parts and anatomy a
39:30
shameful thing for my kids. I mean, again, we didn't walk
39:33
around nude, but at the same time it wasn't this.
39:37
Oh, we can't talk about it or it's not a real thing or you,
39:41
you know, we need to discuss the birds and the bees and those
39:45
types of things with them. So it wasn't some secretive.
39:50
I, I think it, I think there's, I think there's a healthy way to
39:52
look at it because one of my favorite stories is Beverly
39:55
Hills Cop with my, with my foster mom.
40:00
We had gone was what? So I was already living with, I
40:02
was already living with the Wallaces.
40:03
I was living with the Wallaces, but I still saw Pearl.
40:06
Through the years, so it wasn't like I just did not see her.
40:09
So we went to see Beverly Hills Cop and we start the movie.
40:12
It's Eddie Murphy movie. It's 1984.
40:15
Right out of the the first few words, Eddie Murphy's already F
40:17
word. And so mom Pearl, she's like,
40:21
mom goes, She goes, yeah, she goes, Virgil, I'm going to go
40:25
shopping. You enjoy your movie.
40:27
So she got up and left here. I'm at the Liberty Theater in
40:29
downtown Lewiston and I'm 1312, thirteen years old at an R rated
40:34
movie. I'm like, I'm like store.
40:37
And so Eddie Murphy, of course, the F word all the way through
40:39
it. They went to the strip club.
40:40
You know where there's naked girls dancing all over.
40:42
It's Eddie Murphy, right? So anyway, that's how my mom, my
40:46
mom never my foster mom was not. I mean, she just taught me.
40:50
She taught me right or wrong. She didn't, but it was what it
40:53
was never one. It was never any shame or I just
40:57
never had any of those situations to where that she
41:00
ever made me, you know, feel bad for anything, I guess.
41:04
Right. She would always explain
41:06
something like the birds and the bees.
41:07
I don't think I ever asked her about the birds and bees, but if
41:10
she if I did, she would just explain it.
41:12
She was never. She was never one of those
41:14
people. Yeah.
41:14
Yeah, she would have sat down and had the conversation with
41:17
you and not made it some shameful thing that.
41:20
You better not see that person's Hoo ha, you know, or different
41:23
things like you know and trust. Trust me, it's I was a horny
41:26
little kids. I will not allow.
41:29
I will not elaborate, but it's one of those things where it's
41:33
like, you know, I played enough doctor in my time.
41:35
I was going to say, I think we've touched on the neighbor
41:37
girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:41
We've touched on that in a past podcast, Go back and I don't
41:44
remember which one at this. Point probably I would not want
41:47
to now. I guess I'm getting beat, Red
41:48
not not that I would ever want to talk about those experiences,
41:52
you know, with my foster mom or any of that.
41:54
She never knew. She didn't know so.
41:56
I'm sure she I'm she was a parent.
42:00
She probably, who knows? She probably knew to some degree
42:03
we as a mom. Maybe, but yeah, to some.
42:05
Degree but. I think, I mean, I think that's
42:08
a little, I mean, as little kids, that's the curiosity of
42:10
it. All right.
42:11
And like you said, at least maybe maybe that's the, you
42:14
know, with your dad or my, my buddy that came out of the
42:17
shower, maybe maybe that's why their kids were like, yeah.
42:20
Yeah, no big deal. They saw it all the time.
42:22
Was it right, Right. Something abnormal or you know,
42:27
it's shocking me to see a penis. So you're recommending the
42:30
Charlie Sheen documentary? I mean, I liked it, but again,
42:35
I'm biased so I wouldn't go off in my opinion at this stage of
42:39
the game so. Yeah, I liked.
42:40
Well, I like the whole family. I like Martin Sheen.
42:42
I like Emilio Estevez. I.
42:44
Mean they're not in. They chose not to be in the
42:46
documentary. I know that which I think we
42:47
talked about that last podcast, but Denise is in it, his
42:52
ex-wife, one of his daughters, Sammy Jon Cryer is in it.
42:59
Chuck Lorre, is that who? Yep, that's the one he had the
43:02
fight with. That was the big.
43:03
That was the big fight. For 2 1/2 men, yeah.
43:05
Yeah. So they go through that whole
43:07
story and what happened. So it's interesting to hear all
43:10
of it. What really went down because we
43:12
were only getting bits and pieces out of media.
43:15
Was it really true? Most of it.
43:16
Yeah, but when you're coked out of your mind and then and and
43:19
you're the highest paid sitcom, I mean, can you submit?
43:22
I mean the money, just the just the insanity you and I could
43:26
never fathom. No.
43:28
And he talks about how why didn't someone stopped me on one
43:33
hand and then he's like, but look at who I was and the money
43:37
I had. No one was going to tell me,
43:40
right? No one was going to tell me.
43:41
Otherwise, and I've said that a billion times about the Michael
43:44
Jackson situation with Alisa Marie Presley because they
43:47
interviewed her and she said I absolutely loved Michael
43:50
Jackson. Stop saying that was fake.
43:52
I loved him. And then she also said, you
43:55
don't understand his level of wealth and how people treat him.
44:00
We saw that with the the guy from friends, sadly, who passed
44:04
away from the drug overdue was that.
44:08
Yeah. Matthew Perry.
44:10
It's like when you have wealth beyond your wildest means, no
44:14
one's going to tell you no. Great.
44:17
You know, especially if they're making money off you, they're
44:19
definitely not going to tell you no.
44:21
Right. And, and she said, and she said
44:23
that with Michael Jackson, Lisa Marie said with Michael Jackson,
44:25
it was like it didn't matter. It's like no one was going to
44:29
tell Mike. And, and when you're that big,
44:31
you're in a bubble. You are in a bubble.
44:34
Did did Charlie talk about that? You're in a bubble.
44:36
You are not. Yeah, he, yeah, I mean, he
44:38
touches on his circle, which one of his lifelong friends is in
44:43
it. So yeah, it's all discussed in
44:46
the documentary. But you and I, you and I have
44:48
no, we just have no concept of that.
44:51
Right. Maybe someday, Maybe, Maybe
44:53
someday, we'll get there. Never for this guy.
44:56
I'm a DJ. Never.
45:00
It's either that or we'll keep each other humble.
45:02
I'll just like smack you upside the head.
45:04
Yeah. All right.
45:08
We we have been talking a whole bunch, but so there's was a
45:13
couple other things I wanted to talk about, but we're only going
45:15
to be able to talk about one of them.
45:18
Which one do? You want to go on.
45:20
Let's talk about the bride. I want to talk about the bride.
45:23
OK, so there is this bride who wants to disinvite her friend to
45:30
her wedding. So to the bride's wedding
45:32
because she found out that she's not invited to her friend's
45:37
wedding. Now they're close friends, or so
45:41
the bride thought that they were close friends.
45:45
Obviously her feelings are hurt. Now this is not a small wedding
45:49
either, which the bride says the bread that's upset with her
45:53
friend for not being invited. She says that I would have
45:57
understood if it was a small intimate wedding that I would
45:59
not have been invited. But both of their weddings are
46:02
like 100 plus people. So we're not talking small
46:05
weddings that you have a small amount of people that can come.
46:11
So this bride is upset and she is asking if she should
46:17
disinvite her friend now that she's already invited her
46:21
friend, but her friend is not inviting her to the wedding.
46:24
So that is the question she's been asking.
46:27
I think it's on credit or somewhere.
46:29
One's not a bridesmaid or anything like that.
46:31
No, neither one are in the weddings.
46:33
They're just she thought they were close friends and maybe
46:37
it's a little bit more 1 sided than the other friend and so.
46:43
She's on the side. Maybe that person won't even
46:45
show up or or did they RSVP? Did they RSVP?
46:49
I don't think she mentioned or I didn't see that whether or not
46:54
she RSVP it might she might have.
46:56
I don't I don't know. I.
46:57
I think, I think, you know, if you want me to jump in on this,
47:00
I think that. As the.
47:02
Guy how I was raised. If I invited you, then I that
47:07
that invitation would stand. And then if you didn't want to
47:10
invite me, I'd be very hurt and fuck you down the road because
47:16
because my second favorite movie of all time is Roadhouse with
47:20
Patrick Swayze. So we've got Dead Poets Society
47:22
where it's like carpet DMCS today.
47:24
Love you, love you. And then we got Patrick Swayze.
47:27
Like my way or the highway? There is.
47:29
What do you know my favorite movies?
47:31
What's that? Labyrinth.
47:34
Yeah, of course. Well, how?
47:36
Of course you're in that era, of course.
47:37
I was like 10 or yeah that that's I fell in love with David
47:42
Bowie and that's probably where my love of bad boys came from,
47:45
I'm sure. Yes, Labyrinth and then Forrest
47:49
Gump is my second favorite. So could you?
47:51
Not love. Yeah, Jenny.
47:52
So. Yeah, So.
47:54
So I if I invite somebody, hey, that, that that's the invite.
47:58
I won't, I won't disinvite you unless something drastically
48:01
happened in that relationship. I'd be very hurt.
48:03
I wouldn't understand why, why I would not why I was not invited
48:07
to the other one. And then I and then going
48:08
forward, then I would be really gun shy.
48:12
Right, which it? That's OK if that's the way it's
48:14
going to be. I'm, I'm, you know, maybe we're
48:15
not as good as friends as I thought.
48:17
Yes, which this isn't wedding related but when my kids were
48:22
growing up I had to set boundaries for myself because my
48:27
family would attend other family members kids's stuff like mainly
48:32
birthdays, you know, whatever it was and then those family
48:36
members would not show up for my kids.
48:38
And I understand after missing a few events, people have
48:42
conflicts and other things going on.
48:45
So this is multiple times that they would miss coming to my
48:49
kids events. And so I finally stopped going
48:52
to their events. I would, I don't send birthday
48:56
cards. I do if it's graduation or
48:59
something like that, then I'll send a graduation card.
49:01
But I don't go to their kids stuff anymore because I could be
49:07
doing something with my kids. And if you're not going to show
49:10
up for my children, then I'm not willing to show up for yours.
49:14
So, well, I think, does that make me sound like an ask?
49:16
But. I think it, I think it hurts.
49:19
I think that I mean, yes, at the end of the day and especially
49:22
for for people like us, you know, coming from broken homes,
49:27
we're. Always trying to people please
49:29
or be there for people or be the be the one doing doing for
49:33
other. People and you act all tough,
49:34
but that's not the reality. It's very easy.
49:36
I've always, I've always said it's when someone comes to a
49:39
broken home, they may act all tough, but it's very easy to
49:41
just go, you know what I'm saying and and hurt.
49:44
Then let me not say it to your face, right?
49:46
Let me not say it to your face, but it's it's really.
49:48
Super. Super easy to hurt them, you
49:50
know, I've always. Yeah, I feel like we're we're
49:53
very independent and like I'm very independent and being able
49:57
to do things for myself or or that sort of thing.
50:00
But like you said, if it's something that hurts our
50:03
feelings or we take personal, then it hurts.
50:06
Yeah, so. So there's a different.
50:08
Yeah, for like, like I can go to a movie by myself.
50:11
I can go to a restaurant by myself.
50:12
These things, don't I? I always look, I always look at
50:16
it like if I show up, man, you are special.
50:20
For you, yes. Yeah, coming from the guy who
50:23
did not. I attend my wedding.
50:27
No, so, so that was funny that and I think John and I think
50:29
even John Riggs brought it up one time too.
50:31
It's like and and I looking back, I'm like, man, and I want
50:34
you to say I regret that. I regret that I've I want you to
50:37
know I've done a lot better and. I just like teasing you about
50:40
it. No, but I have done a lot but.
50:42
It did kind of hurt my feelings at the time, I do have to say,
50:44
like at the time it did. No, and, and, and I have tried
50:51
in my older years that and people trust me when I show up,
50:56
they lose their crap because they do not like when they say,
50:59
oh, I'll try to make it. And then I just know I don't go.
51:01
And then when I do show up, people like what the he came.
51:05
I did that for my I did that for my niece Mariah.
51:07
She was having her graduation party in Lewiston.
51:10
So Megan and I went over, you know, and that shocked the crap
51:13
out of my family because they were like, what the showing up.
51:17
So, and that does not mean I'm special by any means.
51:19
It's just, it's just a rarity. We've talked about that, how you
51:25
don't like to go on a fast podcast, how you don't like to
51:27
go to things or us trying to get you to go to things.
51:31
You complain about it leading up to set event and then once you
51:36
get there, you go, oh, this, this was fun.
51:38
Had a great time. It's good, yeah.
51:40
I mean, I'm perfectly capable of having conversations.
51:42
That's. Yeah.
51:43
So yeah, you. Turn it on.
51:45
When you walk into that room, you were like.
51:47
I can of course, of course, but but then I'm like, oh, it's so
51:50
exhaustive, so exhaustive that he got it that he got to be on.
51:54
So to me, I'm like, so the so for me, invitation stands set.
51:58
I'm and I'm sad for the lady because it's like that friend is
52:01
obviously not as good of a friend as you thought.
52:04
Now do you confront them? I was going to say I would
52:08
probably oh, OK, I would not confront them.
52:13
I would sit down and have a conversation with that my my
52:17
friend or who I thought was my friend and say, hey, look, I'm
52:21
just curious why? Because there may be a valid
52:25
reason why she didn't get invited like this other her
52:28
friend could have such a big family or you don't know what
52:33
other people have going on. And so you probably should sit
52:35
down and have a conversation, conversation with her adult to
52:38
adult and say, hey, is is there some reason I didn't get
52:43
invited? Why did I not make the cut?
52:45
Yeah, However you want to say it and find out exactly why.
52:49
And then based off of maybe what she says the reason is, then you
52:53
can kind of gauge, OK, going forward, this is how our
52:57
friendship is going to look. Or I need to set boundaries for
53:00
our friendship. You know, whatever you need to
53:03
do for yourself, that's what you need to do.
53:05
Yep, and as my mom would have said, the invite stand, you
53:09
invited them and then then you know you invite them as a guest
53:13
so you are obligated. Right, you can't read any.
53:16
But going forward after that, then that, that changes
53:20
everything. It's like, yeah, then.
53:21
But I would again if it just depends on how good of a first
53:24
friend they are so. It she says that they're close
53:27
friend. Now I don't know what you we all
53:29
have different definitions of what close friends.
53:33
Are. Yeah, I don't.
53:34
What our definition of that is, it could be different from what
53:39
you and I think. Yes, I will say this as as
53:43
antisocial as I can be, if if I know someone's really counting
53:47
on me, I'll be there. Because once I say I'm going to
53:50
be there, I'm going to be there. Yes, you know that.
53:53
Michelle, yes, that is going to be there.
53:56
Yeah, that is the truth. And that that that's never been,
53:58
that's never been a shocker to people because if I say I'm
54:00
going to be there, I, I will show up when I say I'm going to
54:04
be somewhere, I'll be there. So, yeah.
54:06
So I definitely, I'd get to the bottom of it.
54:09
But right now I, Yep. Honor the invitation.
54:12
OK, well, you know what? That's that's a lot.
54:15
That's a. Lot.
54:15
Was that a lot? Was that?
54:17
Was that a lot? I'm you know, I, I think, you
54:20
know, I don't know if we needed to dwell that much into some of
54:23
the politics. I apologize.
54:25
You know, we love we love having people listen and, and again, I
54:29
think it I would. Love, is this your disclaimer?
54:31
Now it is a. Disclaimer, I think that's this
54:33
is a good place for common ground.
54:34
I think that's common ground and and I think we can coexist.
54:39
I don't, I don't think it's as I, I hope it's not, I hope it's
54:44
not as bad as I think it is in terms of I I would like to think
54:48
it's not as bad as we see on social media.
54:51
It immediately that's not a reflection.
54:53
The temperature, yeah. At the time and hopefully
54:58
because everybody's upset and things are well, just crazy
55:02
right now that maybe they are in the temperature of everything,
55:05
so. Yeah, and, and again, it's one
55:07
of those, it's one of those things where I, but I guess I, I
55:10
just don't actively try to engage.
55:11
If you have different political views, which is fine.
55:13
You're allowed to have those things.
55:15
I don't try to act. And I never understood the
55:18
people trying to convince somebody else like they believe
55:22
what they believe. So why is it why it's it's
55:25
almost like, it's almost like when someone knocks on my door
55:28
and they said, let me, can I talk to you about God?
55:31
And I'm like, no, not interested.
55:33
And then they go, but wait. But wait, no, I already said
55:36
very politely, I'm not interested.
55:38
So why? What is that human need to make
55:42
people think the same as somebody else?
55:45
The religious aspect is they're saving you though.
55:48
That's the religious aspect of it.
55:50
And maybe. I already know where I go.
55:52
Political aspect of it is they think they're saving you,
55:57
bringing you into their group. I don't know.
56:00
I got AI, got avip pass downstairs so.
56:04
That makes two of us. I'll see you down then.
56:06
Sorry, that makes you feel better.
56:07
It's like, you know, it's like I pretty much, I pretty much know
56:10
that that's where I'm headed. I always think what is my hell
56:13
loop going to be? You know, be this is probably
56:16
people are going to be like what?
56:18
Because supposedly when you go to hell, your hell loop, what
56:22
you're stuck in is something that.
56:25
Yeah, that sounds like a good, that sounds like a good future
56:27
podcast. Yes.
56:28
OK. Do you want me to talk about my
56:30
hell loop next time? Yes.
56:32
Mark it down. That's right.
56:34
What? What?
56:34
What's going to be? Yeah.
56:35
What? What are we going to be stuck in
56:37
if we're going? You know, OK, so think about
56:39
what you're. So it has to be something that
56:41
you, you know, you don't like something horrible, but not but
56:47
not necessarily like gory horrible or you know, right what
56:52
some people would think as horrible.
56:53
So. It's kind of, it's kind of like
56:54
hearing Baby Shark over and over again or something like that
56:57
would be, you know, or, you know, yeah.
56:59
For Internet, a song. Right, but that would be for
57:01
eternity. Baby shark.
57:03
Baby shark. Now it's going to be stuck in
57:06
your head all day. It will be.
57:07
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57:13
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