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Joba and the Mouth 2-12-26 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  If it is the worldwide sports radio network.
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  As NBA All Star Weekend approaches, the NBA's all time
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  point leader LeBron James was extremely critical of his team,
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  telling the media that the Lakers are not championship
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  material. As the trade deadline has come
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  and gone, the Lakers may be able to add some buyout candidates,
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  but this team, which is currently 6th in the crowded
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  Western Conference, does not inspire James's confidence.
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  Can the Lakers, Luka Doncic and LeBron find a way to reign
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  supreme before the King calls it quits?
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  And before we cover the beef between Big Ben and Joey Porter
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  Senior and take a ride on the concrete jungle carousel
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  covering what's new in New York sports, we'll tell you what
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  parts of All Star Weekend, if any, are worth your while.
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  On another all gas, no brakes, Wheeling and dealing, styling
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  Jabba and the Man You're going. To.
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  Jordan. Said I.
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  Played 82 games. You don't see LeBron doing that.
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  A. Game where you got to go?
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  Feet. Saquon Barkley at.
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  This moment, say whatever you want, he's the
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  A lot to get into tonight. No more football.
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  We have the combine, which is right around the corner.
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  And then we have open season as free agency market opens up for
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  the NFL and we have the Olympics going on as we speak.
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  We're watching, I guess you could say this, this is skating
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  or speed skating. That's what they call it.
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  So we have speed skating racing right now.
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  Now you have the women's Olympic hockey team absolutely
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  dominating against Team Canada over the weekend, which was fun
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  to watch. So a lot actually wasn't over
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  the weekend, it was early this week, but it was fun to watch.
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  Something that we haven't seen usually the Canadian, Canadian
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  team over the last couple years has been dominant against Team
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  USA and maybe it's a different year, maybe we see a completely
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  different Team USA women's hockey team and obviously the
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  men's hockey team started today. I didn't get a chance to watch
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  the game. I'll watch the replay after the
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  show. If I'm not mistaken, they played
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  Slovakia. I'm not, I'm not positive on
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  that, but they played Slovakia today.
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  So it's it's crazy. This is my favorite time of the
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  year because you have March Madness right around the corner.
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  Football is over. We have basketball really
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  picking up after the All Star break.
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  The trade deadline obviously just ended for the NBA and then
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  there's the NHL, which the N the NHL trade trade deadline I think
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  is what right around the corner, right?
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  Speeding March 1st week of March.
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  Yeah, so the NHL trade deadline and then we're going to find out
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  how hockey starts to pick up because after the All Star
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  break, everything starts to fall into place.
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  And we'll see how the Islanders, you know, where the Islanders
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  are. And then the Rangers choking,
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  New Jersey choking. And we're going to go into the
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  playoffs with maybe just two New York teams, yes, possibly the
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  Buffalo Sabres and the New York Islanders.
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  Who would have thought that the New York Rangers, the new New
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  Jersey Devils were expected to be playoff contending teams?
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  But it seems like it's gone the other path.
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  It's Buffalo and the Islanders moving on possibly into a
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  playoff run. So a lot to get into with that a
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  little bit as the season progressively moves forward.
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  But like I said, I love this time because at all hours of the
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  night, the Olympics are on. You get to watch.
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  You get to watch curling and all the different, different Olympic
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  sports. I love skating.
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  Me and Brittany, when the Olympics started, we got to see
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  the team skating. Yeah.
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  You got a chance to see the men's short programs.
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  I think the long programs are tonight.
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  I'm not, I'm not fully positive on that.
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  But and then there's the women's program and and all that other
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  stuff. Ice dancing is fun to watch as
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  well. This is it's fun.
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  And you get to root on Team USA and your backup.
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  You know your, your colors, the red, white and blue and, and you
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  get a chance to see some of the more hotter.
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  And I say hot because these skaters, some of these women
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  skaters are like supermodels. I'm serious, from all different
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  parts of the world, from Switzerland to Sweden, they're
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  like absolutely stunning women. And I, I, I love looking at
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  that. I'm a man.
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  What can I say? I'm a man that enjoys looking at
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  beautiful women. So I know Nathan loves that,
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  that's for damn sure. But anyway, Speedy, how are you?
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  I enjoying the Olympics as well. I always enjoyable to see.
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  Like you could bump around so many different sports,
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  especially having Peacock, you just bump around whatever sport
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  you want. I was watching a lot of the
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  other snowboard cross, which is the direct racing snowboard.
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  That's always been my favorite of the because a lot of times
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  it's just time trials or something like that and they
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  actually go right at each other. I think 6 different snowboarders
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  all at once was cool. I like a lot of the skiing.
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  I like a lot of the skating as well, like you were saying.
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  And now we're watching some speed skating, which can always
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  get intense. It's it's fun to watch.
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  And like I said, you root on your country and, and if you're
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  an Italian descent or your Russian descent or whatever
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  Ukraine descent, Lithuanian descent, you're rooting on your,
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  you know, your, your nationality.
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  So it's always fun to watch and the competitive nature.
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  And like I said, you get the chance to watch sports that you
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  don't get to watch every single day.
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  I, I, I introduced curling to Brittany last night and she
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  like, she was like, what the hell is this?
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  And she's like, this looks boring.
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  And I said, it's strategy. Have you ever played
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  shuffleboard? And she's like, yeah, but this,
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  this is completely different than shuffleboard.
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  I said, no, it's not. I mean, it's shuffleboard on
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  ice, but just a little bit more strategy.
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  And it's fun to watch because if you understand the game and you
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  understand the point system and the competitive nature when,
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  when there's 10 rounds of curling, it's interesting how
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  they have strategy and, and they contest certain certain things
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  that happen during the game. And, and obviously call
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  timeouts, they go to their coaches, their coaches come down
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  and they're giving them advice. And it's, it's interesting.
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  It really is. It's fun to watch.
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  And like I said, it's all competitive nature and you get
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  to see all these different countries and all these
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  different sports compete against one another.
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  It's always fun to watch. A little bit later in the show,
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  we will be talking to former New York Giants Super Bowl champion
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  linebacker Gary Reasons will be joining us.
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  Gary has been a successful, was a successful linebacker in the
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  NFL, won a Super Bowl with the New York Giants, was a big part
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  of that Super Bowl championship, New York Giants team.
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  So we'll get into what he's been doing off the field over the
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  last couple of years. And like his his pal Howard
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  Cross, who was on the show last week, interesting to see what he
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  thinks the Giants are going to be this year with new a new
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  coaching staff. Now, not one, not 2, but three
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  offensive coordinators, one that took the quarterback position,
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  one that's an assistant offensive coordinator.
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  And and obviously Matt Nagy, who's the quote on quote
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  offensive coordinator. It makes no sense, ladies and
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  gentlemen. But again, the New York Giants
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  over the last couple of years have made no sense on their
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  position with their coaching staff and even some of the
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  players. But I want to get into the
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  LeBron James story because LeBron, whenever LeBron is a
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  lead story, it's definitely something that's going to draw
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  fans and interesting content. After Monday's 119 to 110 loss
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  to the Thunder, LeBron James told the media after the game
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  that the Lakers are not a championship team.
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  James said the Lakers were not giving effort for the full 48
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  minutes compared to the Thunder and other younger teams they
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  have competed against in the Western Conference.
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  The Lakers kept in within kept it within 10 without Luka Doncic
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  in the game, who is still dealing with hamstring,
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  hamstring injury. Without Luka, LeBron put up 22
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  points, 10 assists and six rebounds, but it was not enough
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  to top the Oklahoma City Thunder without SGA, who missed the game
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  with an abdominal injury. Outside of LeBron, who is
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  averaging almost 22 points, 7 assists and six rebounds a game
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  in his 23rd NBA season, the Lakers are being powered by
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  Austin Reeves and is tied for 13th in the NBA averaging 25.7
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  points per game but missed 19 straight games until returning
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  to the lineup last week. Luca is leading the NBA
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  averaging 32.3 points per game and is also third in MVP odds
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  right now, only behind Yokich and SGA.
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  The Lakers are the 6th, yes, the six team in the Western
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  Conference will succeed in the Western Conference right now at
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  32 and 21. All right, so LeBron James has
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  his own thoughts to the the Los Angeles Lakers and maybe this is
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  his last hurrah or I don't know what LeBron James is trying to
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  do to disappoint some of the youngsters on this Laker team.
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  They don't have enough talent to win a championship as far as the
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  where where the teams are. And at the trade deadline, you
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  would have thought that the Lakers were going to make
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  significant moves if they thought they were a contending
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  team. And I think that's why LeBron
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  James doesn't believe that the Lakers are contending because
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  they didn't really make any moves at the trade deadline.
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  They didn't make a substantial move where they could have made
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  a move for Giannis or Joel Embiid or any one of these guys
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  that we we're speaking about possibly in the trade market.
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  And again, LeBron James is at the tail end.
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  He's at he's at the 18th hole right now of his career.
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  Now where LeBron James could be or what LeBron James is as a
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  player, it to me still is going to prove his worth all the way
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  through the play, all the way through the season to the
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  playoffs. I think this team is a playoff
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  team. Can they win around in the first
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  in the first round of the playoffs, especially if they're
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  if they win their play in because right now there are six
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  seats. So they'd be a play in team.
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  So if they get through the playing game, I think they can
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  win a first round playoff playoff game depending on who
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  they match up against. Now the NBA is very interesting
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  because depending on match ups and remember it becomes a half
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  court game, Le Bron James, it's not the same player he once was.
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  Le Bron James still averages 23 points and seven assists and six
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  rebounds. He's an elite player still and
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  you could say whatever you want, he's still a top 20 player in
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  the NBA. But LeBron James can't play the
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  defense he used to play. He can't dominate on the
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  perimeter like he used to be able to dominate.
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  Even his shooting percentage just went down over the last
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  couple of years. So he's not that dominant force
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  that we can remember when LeBron James was the best player, the
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  go to guy, the face of the NBA. Now you see guys like Luka
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  Tanczyk and Yokich and SGA. And by the way, all three guys
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  that we just mentioned are foreigners, guys that are not
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  from the United States. It's been dominated.
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  American basketball has been dominated by Americans for a
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  very, very long time. When you think about the elite
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  of elite players, when Kobe Bryant was here, he was the best
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  player in the NBA. When Kobe Bryant was starting to
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  transform into the player he was, you had guys like Tim
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  Duncan who are still an elite player.
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  When Kobe Bryant took over the league and obviously Shaquille
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  O'Neal, it was always run by American players.
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  Now, as we've moved forward in the last 2025 years, the
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  foreigners, the international players, and it really started
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  off with guys like Dirk Nowinski, who came into the
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  league from Germany and has was a dominant force, big man who
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  can shoot threes, transition the game of basketball.
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  And now you have guys like Yokich and SGA and Luka Doncic,
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  all international players that have built a name for themselves
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  here in the NBA. LeBron James looks at this team.
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  Even with Yokich, I mean, I'm sorry, even with Luka Doncic,
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  can they compete against the elite teams?
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  Even with Austin Reeves and himself and Luka Tonchik, I
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  think they're starting five years is as good as anybody in
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  the Western Conference except possibly the size and and they
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  have DeAndre Ayton. DeAndre Ayton was a first round
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  talent, the number one pick of the first round years ago and he
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  really didn't develop into the player he was when he came out
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  of college. But DeAndre Ayton is still a
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  pretty good player at the position.
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  He plays at the power forward slash center, center position.
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  Now, you look at the Lakers right now, they don't have the
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  bench to win. And as we've watched the NBA
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  over the last couple of years, it's all about the depth of your
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  bench is what's going to take you to that next level.
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  When the Nuggets won the championship, they had one of
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  the best benches in the league. Last year, Indiana, as they
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  knocked out the Nick New York Knicks, they had one of the best
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  benches in the Eastern Conference.
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  Even with Tyrese Halliburton playing as well as he was
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  throughout the playoffs and making these clutch shots as
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  well as he was. And then you look at the the
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  Western Conference, even when the Golden State Warriors were
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  at the top of their game, look at the depth they had coming off
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  their bench. Look at the defensive side of
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  the ball. I think that obviously when you
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  look at what the Lakers are today, they don't have that kind
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  of depth. Could you, speedy, could you
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  tell me the best bench player the Lakers have?
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  Hachamura. Probably Hachamura.
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  OK, that's that's their best player.
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  In the past, they had guys like Derek Fisher and and guys of
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  that magnitude, Robert Ori coming off the bench when they
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  were a championship contending team, guys that have won, guys
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  that understood what their roles were.
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  I don't know if the Lakers understand their roles and they
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  have a a coach that's been there for a couple of years.
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  And I'm not saying he's not a good one, but I questioned the
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  Lakers when they hired him because he had no coaching
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  experience and he was doing a podcast with LeBron James.
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  I, I think that obviously where the Lakers are today and what
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  they have not been over the last couple of years, maybe had
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  something to do with the bus family selling the team and
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  selling their their profits away to, you know, to another owner.
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  And and I think that the Lakers are not that that same thing
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  family of dominance over the years where they built around
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  talent and superstars coming here to want to play for the
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  Lakers and their colors. It's not like that anymore.
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  The Lakers are not that dominant force they once were.
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  As a matter of fact, if you look at the Western Conference right
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  now, especially over the last couple of years, would you
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  consider the Lakers a top four team in the NBA?
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  And the answer would be no, because you got young teams and
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  even when the Golden State Warriors were at the top level,
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  LeBron James wasn't quite there. I mean, he was in Miami before
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  he went to the Lakers. And the Lakers only won a
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  championship with Anthony Davis. I think it was COVID time, the
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  bubble year. That was the last time that that
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  the Lakers were a contending team.
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  And that might have had something to do with the short
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  season and all the the different rule changes that they had to
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  implicate because of COVID. I think that you look at the
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  Lakers now, I, I question where ownership is and really where
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  the, the executives are or what this team is when LeBron James
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  decides to step, step down. I, I know they had a Luca Doncic
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  and I know you have a superstar player with the LA Lakers.
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  And the Lakers always have superstars, always have one guy
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  that is the face of the organization.
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  And I think Luca is a great ambassador for Los Angeles
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  basketball. But my problem here is, is there
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  anybody that's going to want to play there anymore?
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  I mean, the Lakers have always been a destination that you want
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  to play for. Now you look at guys like
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  Giannis. Do you think Giannis wants to go
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  over there and play for the Lakers or even some of these
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  free agents that are going to become available in the next
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  couple of years when LeBron James steps down?
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  Is is Luka Doncic a place, a person that you want to play
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  with? Because if we seen where Luka
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  was with the Dallas Mavericks, did they ever win a
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  championship? No, they had Kyrie Irving over
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  there. They did not win.
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  Jaylen Bronson was there, they did not win.
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  And I'm not saying that Luka Doncic is not a great player and
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  he's not one of the ambassadors of the game of basketball, but
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  is he a winning player? LeBron James proved that he was
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  a winning player. Luka Doncic 2 years in a row
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  went to a Western Conference and A championship and couldn't get
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  over the hump. And again, you look at the
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  specifics and and understanding where the Lakers are and they
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  have never been in a drought like this.
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  Think about this. They haven't won a championship
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  in six years now. The last time they won, I think
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  it was a 2020 speedy. It's been 6 years.
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  I don't know if the Lakers have been in and this goes back to
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  like teams like the Yankees, but besides 2009, when the Yankees
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  were pushing, it took that was the law.
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  This is the longest drought. The Yankees have not won a
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  championship. It usually is 10 to 11 years the
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  Yankees won a championship. It's been what, 16 years since
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  the Yankees? 16 or 17 years since the last
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  time the Yankees won? And you talk about dominance.
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  You talk about strategic places where teams are contenders every
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  single year. And I'm not saying the Lakers
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  aren't a playoff team, and I think LeBron James never said
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  that the Lakers aren't a playoff team, but championship bound.
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  I think you need other aspects, things need to fall together
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  with these, with with the Lakers and championship organizations
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  for it to work. And you can see it right now,
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  even awful waivers are players coming off waivers and wanting
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  to go to the Lakers. No, they want to go to the
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  Knicks. They want to go to the
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  contending teams in the Eastern and Western Conference, OK C or,
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  or, or one of those teams, because if they're they're
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  crossing waivers, they want to go to the the team that they
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  have the best chance to win. And usually over the years, if,
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  if one of those top end players or those veteran players come
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  off a waivers, they usually want to go to the Lakers or they want
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  to go to those elite teams, the San Antonio Spurs.
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  It's not like that anymore. And I think the league has
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  changed. Obviously the contending
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  championship teams have have changed and now you look at the
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  UP and I'll say this, the NBA is a young man's sport.
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  If you look at when these teams really become the elite teams in
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  the NBA, if you look at the Western Conference right now,
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  Speedy, who are the top three teams in Western Conference?
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  OKC, Denver, and I believe it's San Antonio, right?
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  Now and who's the 4th team? Houston.
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  Houston Now, if you look at all four of those teams, most of
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  those teams are young, right? They have veteran players, but
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  they have a lot of youth on their rosters.
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  The Nuggets have one of the most dominant centers, one of the
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  most dominant players the NBA has ever seen.
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  GSA is is probably the best point guard in the NBA and was
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  it last year's league MVP with all the talent that they have
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  over there. And then you go up and down.
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  Houston, besides KD, that team is fairly young with a young
• 22:04
  roster. And again, you look at the
• 22:07
  Lakers, besides some of the young players, they they've
• 22:10
  built their team around players that nobody wants.
• 22:14
  Nobody wants DeAndre Ayton. Did anybody want him after you
• 22:17
  left Phoenix? He was traded for one place and
• 22:20
  then he went to the Lakers. Nobody wanted him.
• 22:24
  Austin Reeves is a guy that is going to be a free agent this
• 22:27
  coming year. I don't think the Lakers are
• 22:28
  going to be able to afford them. Now if LeBron James steps down
• 22:31
  or leaves, maybe they could afford them.
• 22:33
  But Austin Reeves is transitioning into a star
• 22:36
  player. But does Austin Reeves want to
• 22:38
  stay with the Lakers knowing that he's not the go to man or
• 22:40
  he's not the the guy over there with the the Los Angeles Lakers
• 22:45
  and he's he's a draft pick of the Los Angeles Lakers.
• 22:48
  And if you look at the drafts the Lakers have had in the past,
• 22:52
  even when Magic Johnson was running the organization, Julius
• 22:55
  Randall was a draft pick. Is he there anymore?
• 22:58
  If we go up and down the rosters and and all the draft stock
• 23:01
  Lonzo Ball, another top three pick, is he still with them
• 23:05
  anymore? No, he's been a journeyman in
• 23:08
  the NBA. They have struck out on all
• 23:10
  these top picks that they've had over the years.
• 23:14
  And that has a lot to do with ownership.
• 23:16
  That has a lot to do with the executives there.
• 23:18
  There's no more Phil Jackson. There is no more team leadership
• 23:22
  over the years that has has made the Lakers as dominant as they
• 23:26
  were and you can see the difference on the way they play.
• 23:29
  Yeah, I think the Lakers are kind of a stuck in a weird in
• 23:31
  between where they want to be still a team that doesn't want
• 23:34
  to operate on the way that all right, we're just going to bring
• 23:37
  in these flashy trades and all the stars all at once.
• 23:39
  I think Pelinka still has done enough to build enough where
• 23:43
  they don't have to purge things like the Suns had to.
• 23:45
  They don't have to purge things like the Nets had to.
• 23:47
  And now you're seeing the Clippers will probably have to.
• 23:49
  They didn't build like that. The Lakers were saying, OK,
• 23:51
  we're not going to be the LeBron Miami Heat where they had the
• 23:54
  big three and then they had Mike Miller and Shane Battier came
• 23:57
  coming off the bench that were absolutely just, they had their
• 24:00
  roles, but they weren't anything special.
• 24:02
  Like I think the Lakers did well at not having to do that.
• 24:04
  At the same time you mentioned it, they are kind of stuck where
• 24:08
  they should be, the destination to go to.
• 24:11
  And yet, they're kind of like the Cowboys in the NFL, where
• 24:13
  teams will use their flashy name as leverage and go somewhere
• 24:16
  else. They're not the Jerry West
• 24:18
  Lakers. When Jerry West was there,
• 24:21
  everybody wanted to come over there and Jerry West would spin
• 24:23
  the way. And Jerry West was so very good
• 24:26
  at finding talent in the draft. I remember when he he decided to
• 24:31
  trade Vladi Divock for a young Kobe Bryant, a high school
• 24:35
  player. And they they moved.
• 24:36
  They he was a guy that worked Kobe Bryant out, got a chance to
• 24:40
  see Kobe Bryant before the draft came around when the Charlotte
• 24:43
  Hornets was going to, well, did eventually draft Kobe and trade
• 24:47
  him, trade his rights to the Los Angeles Lakers.
• 24:50
  They they don't have that that guy that is looking for that up
• 24:54
  and coming talent. And again over over the last
• 24:57
  couple of years even look at the Clippers and what the Clippers
• 24:59
  did. The Clippers drafted GSA and
• 25:01
  then they traded him over there to the Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 25:06
  I I think the Clippers have drafted better than the Lakers
• 25:08
  over the years. Yeah, the Clippers actually
• 25:10
  finding these random young talent that's made them not even
• 25:13
  when they even when they were get rid of getting rid of their
• 25:15
  live city corps, they were not like awful for long stretch of
• 25:18
  time like the Lakers when Kobe at the end of his career were a
• 25:22
  really bad team. That's how they ended up with so
• 25:23
  many early draft picks. They were #2 they drafted Brandy
• 25:26
  Ingram 2016, Lonzo the next year, number 22017.
• 25:29
  Yeah, you could say lottery stuff all you want.
• 25:31
  They were still one of the worst records in the NBA.
• 25:33
  The Clippers were not like that. Now the Clippers, that terrible
• 25:35
  trade they're going to regret for a while, trading all the
• 25:37
  draft picks, trading also Jalen Williams in that deal too.
• 25:40
  And then SGA, who is the top three player, top 4 player in
• 25:43
  the league right now, just one MVP.
• 25:45
  That being said, the Lakers are still kind of stuck in between
• 25:48
  where because LeBron is there, they want to go after after him.
• 25:52
  LeBron is not going to be want to be part of a young team.
• 25:54
  That's why obviously they made the Anthony Davis trade, they
• 25:56
  traded Lonzo, they traded Ingram and etcetera.
• 25:58
  And now you're seeing the team, the league trying to transition
• 26:01
  the other way where I would say obviously OKC built a lot on
• 26:05
  those on that trade, those those draft picks and stuff like that.
• 26:08
  You're seeing a core with the Spurs that obviously they got
• 26:11
  Wembi and they've signed some free agents, but they knew when
• 26:13
  to trade them and they built a core that way.
• 26:16
  Houston and the Nuggets are building around.
• 26:19
  Houston kind of built like OK C The Nuggets built around 1 star.
• 26:22
  They've been pretty steady for a while.
• 26:23
  I guess they were the only one that needed to make a drastic
• 26:26
  trade in order to rebuild. They just needed Nicola Yokich
• 26:28
  and Jamal Murray and they were able to build a pretty steady
• 26:30
  core after that. It took them a while to win a
• 26:32
  title, but they're doing it in the new model where I think the
• 26:36
  Lakers, they tried to shy away from the fact that we're not
• 26:38
  going to be the Brooklyn Nets. But at the same time, they still
• 26:41
  wanted to cater LeBron. And I think Pelinka and the rest
• 26:44
  of those egos got in the way. LeBron got in the way where you
• 26:47
  got your one title fine, but it's not the sustained success
• 26:49
  that they want. Even this past year they had a
• 26:52
  second round pick. They didn't even have a first
• 26:53
  round pick. And the year before that had
• 26:56
  Dalton connect. And is he still part of the
• 26:59
  organization? Brawny James.
• 27:01
  I mean, look at the players that they've drafted, Max Christie,
• 27:04
  this is not Isaiah Jackson. None of these guys have are
• 27:08
  really even a part of the organization anymore.
• 27:11
  And it you could go back ten years.
• 27:13
  I'm looking at this some of the draft picks that they've had
• 27:15
  over the years, none of a panned out.
• 27:18
  The last guy that panned out, not for the Lakers is Julius
• 27:21
  Randall. Think about it, Julius Randall
• 27:24
  that has jumped ship to many different teams and he really
• 27:27
  didn't get developed until he went to play for Tom Thibodeau
• 27:30
  in the the New York Knicks. So just think about that.
• 27:34
  They have had so many mistakes in the draft and I think that
• 27:38
  when you look at Le Bron James and and what Le Bron James is
• 27:41
  saying, he's being honest. This team is not a championship
• 27:44
  contending team. They didn't make enough moves at
• 27:47
  the trade deadline. That gives you a reason to think
• 27:49
  that they are. And again, you look at the
• 27:52
  Knicks and what the Knicks did, they had a Jose Alvarado.
• 27:56
  Alvarado is a guy that's going to give them defense, is going
• 27:58
  to give them some offense off the bench, gives them that type
• 28:02
  of talent, fast-paced offense that Mike Brown is going to run.
• 28:05
  If you look at all the moves that were made by contending
• 28:08
  teams at the trade deadline, you can see there was a reason why
• 28:11
  they did it. The Lakers stayed put because I
• 28:14
  obviously fighting injury with Luca Dodgic, who by the way has
• 28:17
  not been healthy for the last two or three seasons even with
• 28:20
  the Dallas Mavericks and and Austin Reeves, who looks like
• 28:23
  he's going to be a great player in this league.
• 28:26
  I don't know if the Lakers going to be able to keep him next year
• 28:29
  because the cap situation. So you, you wonder if you look
• 28:33
  at what LeBron James is saying and maybe because of ownership,
• 28:36
  LeBron James took shots at the bus family with his son and
• 28:40
  Bronie James and saying and Bron and and and then bus Jeanie
• 28:45
  Jeanie Buss. She was on a podcast recently
• 28:48
  and she said that LeBron James kind of forced the Lakers his
• 28:52
  hand to draft his son and then he denies it.
• 28:56
  But of course, LeBron James is at the tail end of his career
• 29:00
  and obviously controversy. He has a platform and he's doing
• 29:04
  this because he has the power to do it, because he's been the
• 29:07
  face of the NBA for so many years.
• 29:09
  Yeah, and Luca Dantic, the tray they made last year too, was
• 29:12
  essentially gifted look loss because of the dumbass of Nico
• 29:15
  Harrison. So it's not like Rob Pelinka
• 29:17
  and. LeBron or maybe the NBA just
• 29:19
  giving the Lakers an opportunity to get another superstar.
• 29:22
  Yeah, and the that kind of maybe conspiracy with Adam Silver and
• 29:25
  all that we talked about last year, Yeah, who knows.
• 29:27
  But again, they shouldn't be rewarded as an organization for
• 29:29
  saying, OK, this is actually this well built Lakers team.
• 29:32
  Like with Jerry West there even even the previous regimes too
• 29:35
  with the 70s and the 80s and those Showtime Lakers, like
• 29:38
  those were a lot of besides cream of Jabbar, those were a
• 29:40
  lot of homegrown guys that were building a team together that
• 29:43
  built that dynasty in the 80s too.
• 29:45
  So it's a weird just in between that they're stuck in right now.
• 29:48
  Now you're seeing a league in the NBA.
• 29:49
  Now that. The Lakers are the Knicks now.
• 29:53
  This is exactly what happened to the Knicks.
• 29:55
  They fell in a 25 years span, span where, yeah, they have some
• 30:00
  talents. They added Carmelo Anthony, they
• 30:02
  added this player, they added that player Mari Stoudemire in
• 30:05
  free agency. But they didn't have enough.
• 30:07
  They didn't have enough talent around him and they didn't have
• 30:10
  the right GM in place that was going to put him in the right
• 30:13
  position until Leon Rose came there.
• 30:15
  They had Donnie Walsh. Donnie Walsh was obviously let
• 30:18
  go. He went back to the Indiana
• 30:20
  Pacers and then they brought in stupid guys like you, you all
• 30:23
  know Mr. Triangle man himself, Phil Jackson, and they went on
• 30:29
  and on and on bringing different guys in and it just didn't work.
• 30:32
  And they tried to build rosters because of money.
• 30:34
  You have to build the roster the right way and you have to have a
• 30:37
  plan. I don't think the Lakers had a
• 30:39
  plan after they brought LeBron James there and and made a trade
• 30:43
  for Anthony Davis. They haven't done the right
• 30:45
  thing for this organization. And I think the bus family saw
• 30:48
  that and that's why after after a while they were like, I don't
• 30:51
  want to deal with the fighting of the family.
• 30:52
  I just, let's just sell the team for $10 billion and walk away
• 30:56
  from this debacle of an organization that's falling
• 30:59
  apart since dad died. Speedy, I was going to say, you
• 31:01
  said it earlier, Jerry Jones, this is like this is like the
• 31:05
  Jerry Jones roster construction for the Lakers.
• 31:09
  If I'm going to make a cross cross sport comparison, it's not
• 31:11
  the Yankees. I mean, we can comment about the
• 31:14
  Yankees later. Yeah, but the Yankees?
• 31:15
  Still sign a good amount like how many times you see the the
• 31:18
  Yankees maybe besides Manny Machado like not get the big
• 31:21
  name like they still have gotten enough big names.
• 31:23
  Like the Lakers are like the king of the almost big names.
• 31:26
  It's like flashy piece. It's like the Cowboys, let's get
• 31:29
  the flashy piece. Let's let's go trade for George
• 31:32
  Pickens because we'll make our offense great, but we still
• 31:34
  can't defend. So we're still not going to win
• 31:37
  enough games. And that was those are the kind
• 31:40
  of moves that they made, you know, and I I think that getting
• 31:44
  LeBron and Luca together along with Reeves is great, except
• 31:48
  none of them really defend not at this point in Lebron's
• 31:51
  career. He missed enough games already
• 31:53
  Errol, that he's not eligible for all NBA for the first.
• 31:55
  Time I wrote a story about that so.
• 31:57
  Yeah. And so that's already going on.
• 31:59
  And then on top of it, so like they sold the team, Meryl
• 32:03
  Jeannie kept the job as president.
• 32:05
  And then as soon as they sold it, she fired her brothers, got
• 32:08
  them out of the building because they're toxic, and then ranted
• 32:12
  about how she didn't like how the brothers catered to LeBron.
• 32:16
  And I would say that shit is hanging all over this season
• 32:21
  more than anything is a big hangover.
• 32:23
  There's clearly, it just doesn't make sense.
• 32:25
  The roster construction's dumb. No one can.
• 32:28
  Like they can shoot and they can't defend.
• 32:30
  Or you have a guy like Marcus Smart who they bring in and can,
• 32:33
  but he's the one guy who's going to defend.
• 32:35
  It's not like a logical roster construction.
• 32:38
  It's just flashy piece, flashy piece like like the Cowboys have
• 32:42
  done for a number of years. So I see that exactly what
• 32:45
  you're saying. And it's just he can't carry a
• 32:46
  team anymore. It's sad to watch LeBron.
• 32:50
  I mean, I'm old enough to remember those Heat teams like
• 32:53
  that. That was just the sickest thing
• 32:55
  I think I've ever seen. Like it was that and the Golden
• 32:57
  State Warriors back-to-back dynasties and it was like very
• 33:01
  different styles. But I would say that the the
• 33:04
  Heat one, it was just so impressive how high flying and
• 33:08
  they damaging they were. They catered to LeBron.
• 33:10
  James, they brought in JJ Redick, who was LeBron James's
• 33:13
  podcast advocate and advocate. And, and everything about LeBron
• 33:19
  James is, is if LeBron James gets what he wants, he's happy.
• 33:23
  And, and I'm not saying LeBron James is not a face of
• 33:26
  basketball and he hasn't been a big name for basketball.
• 33:29
  He's used his, his connections and his, his ability to build
• 33:34
  businesses around his super stardom and, and he's done it
• 33:37
  very, very well. Nobody's going to attack LeBron
• 33:39
  James on his way of making money and, and understanding how to
• 33:42
  build a brand through what he was as a basketball player, what
• 33:46
  he is as a basketball player. What bothers me about LeBron
• 33:49
  James is now that LeBron James is at the tail end of his career
• 33:52
  and he doesn't like what the Lakers are doing or haven't done
• 33:55
  enough for him to win his fifth championship, to tie the
• 33:59
  championships up with Kobe Bryant or even could being
• 34:02
  compared to Kobe Bryant, it's pissing him off.
• 34:04
  So what is he doing? He's using the media.
• 34:06
  He's using, obviously the platforms he's on to deteriorate
• 34:12
  the, the, the, the, the Lakers and their organization and what
• 34:16
  the organization has done over the last couple years.
• 34:18
  And here's another thing that I've noticed about LeBron James
• 34:21
  that we've never real recognized.
• 34:23
  LeBron James over the years has found ways to call out players
• 34:29
  and not only teammates, but players in the NBA.
• 34:32
  Now, LeBron James is not calling out other players in the NBA.
• 34:36
  He's just calling out his own teammates and and now it it
• 34:39
  started. If I was a young player like
• 34:41
  Austin Reeves or any of the young players playing on a
• 34:44
  basketball team and knowing that his son is still on this team
• 34:48
  because of who he who he is or what his last name is, it would
• 34:51
  bother me as a Laker player. Why would I want to play for
• 34:54
  this Laker team if LeBron James is still there?
• 34:56
  LeBron James, I will say, looks a little bit slower, looks a
• 35:00
  little bit older and also a guy that can't do the things
• 35:04
  athletically as he has in the past.
• 35:06
  Is he putting up numbers? Yes, because he's he's right now
• 35:10
  their go to guy because there's no Luka Dodgic and Austin Reeves
• 35:13
  has not played healthy all season long.
• 35:15
  So yeah, he's going to put up enough points because he's the
• 35:17
  best player on that roster. But that's not saying much when
• 35:20
  you look at the roster from top to bottom on any.
• 35:23
  If you look at the roster with just LeBron James right now,
• 35:26
  they're their second and third best players.
• 35:28
  Would probably not even be on a bench of other teams or would be
• 35:32
  the 7th or 8th guy, 8th game, eighth guy on the Oklahoma City
• 35:37
  Thunder or the New York Knicks or any of these top teams right
• 35:40
  now in East and the West. That's how bad the Lakers are
• 35:43
  when you look at their rosters and the way they're positioned.
• 35:45
  Yeah, I want to read one of the comments from a.
• 35:47
  Pitch grid, pot and then the comments section kind of saying
• 35:50
  what you and I were saying Fish about Jerry Jones and the
• 35:52
  Cowboys. The Lakers are obsessed with
• 35:54
  only narratives and headlines and yeah, that seems to be the
• 35:56
  case. I don't believe that I.
• 35:58
  Don't believe that because the Lakers all right, What are the
• 36:00
  narratives for the Lakers? What is the headlines for the
• 36:02
  Lakers? LeBron James is making the
• 36:04
  headlines, not the Lakers, not the organization.
• 36:07
  And the only headline that I I could see is how does JJ Reddick
• 36:10
  still have a job? Basically because.
• 36:13
  He's a puppet of LeBron James and, and I'm telling you right
• 36:16
  now, when LeBron. James steps away and he retires.
• 36:19
  Or he decides to leave. He goes to the Cavaliers for one
• 36:21
  more year. Maybe that happens.
• 36:24
  I could see JJ Reddick getting fired right after that because
• 36:26
  JJ Reddick is not good. Yeah.
• 36:28
  And we're again, we're never going to.
• 36:29
  Know like what type of coach? Like he really wants to be in
• 36:32
  his own style because he's going to cater LeBron too.
• 36:34
  I think we said it at the time like a younger team probably
• 36:36
  would have been a better start for JJ Reddick to see who he
• 36:39
  really is as a basketball coach compared to somebody like
• 36:41
  Lebron's puppet. Now, obviously doesn't work for
• 36:43
  Tyron Lou with the Clippers because he hasn't been a very
• 36:45
  good coach since he's left the the Cavs and being their puppet.
• 36:48
  But how many other coaches that LeBron got fired?
• 36:50
  Really only Spoelstra has had the success since Lebron's left.
• 36:53
  But again, they've been stuck in cap hell, so they're on the
• 36:56
  downtrends now too. So it's kind of a weird
• 36:58
  prediction. Well, they're stuck in.
• 36:59
  They're stuck. In cap hell, because of LeBron
• 37:01
  James, they decided to extend LeBron for two years.
• 37:05
  And what did they pay him, $100 million for two years?
• 37:08
  I think it was 52 a year. So they're in Capell.
• 37:11
  But look at this roster. Do you want to play for a roster
• 37:13
  with DeAndre Ayton, Kobe, Bulkin?
• 37:16
  Who the hell is that? What is this?
• 37:19
  Jackson Hayes, Bronnie James, Luke Canard?
• 37:24
  I mean, Maxi Keeper? Who the hell are these guys?
• 37:27
  I mean, they got, they got Vanderbilt.
• 37:31
  Don't they? Oh, that's Jeff's boy.
• 37:33
  That's right. Jeff thinks he's a star.
• 37:36
  I mean, if you look at the roster, yeah.
• 37:37
  Vanderbilt, Jared Vanderbilt. But if you look at this roster,
• 37:40
  this roster is not good. This is not a championship
• 37:43
  contending roster. Lebron's not lying.
• 37:45
  But here's the thing. If LeBron James wanted to win
• 37:48
  another championship, I wouldn't have taken.
• 37:50
  I wouldn't. If I'm extending my contract for
• 37:53
  two years and I've made all the money, I'm a multi billionaire.
• 37:56
  Why do I need the money I would have taken?
• 37:58
  I would have taken the LeBron, I'm sorry, the Tom Brady
• 38:00
  treatment. I would have taken $20 million a
• 38:04
  year for the next two years. That's $40 million and take that
• 38:07
  money and invest it into players that's going to help us win a
• 38:10
  championship or give us an opportunity to win another
• 38:13
  championship. But it's all about greed for
• 38:15
  LeBron James. It's never enough.
• 38:17
  These superstar players are making millions and millions of
• 38:20
  dollars. I mean, besides baseball, I
• 38:22
  think basketball players are making more guaranteed money
• 38:25
  than any other sport. Think about it, Errol in the
• 38:28
  playoffs. If they started today, they
• 38:31
  would. They're the sixth seed.
• 38:33
  They'd face the three seed. That's Nikola Jokic and the
• 38:36
  Denver Nuggets if we started today, if they don't play.
• 38:40
  Defense and they. Haven't played defense.
• 38:42
  Jokic is going to eviscerate them.
• 38:44
  It won't even be close. It could be a four-game sweep,
• 38:48
  that's all. If they don't play defense
• 38:50
  because that's what we've seen. I think you need a healthy
• 38:53
  Austin. Reeves and a Luka Doncic.
• 38:55
  I I mean, obviously it's going to be an offensive side side
• 38:59
  side game, but I would I would say that the Lakers do not know
• 39:02
  how to play defense. They don't really have defensive
• 39:05
  even DeAndre Ayton, he is not a defensive type of player at all.
• 39:08
  Yeah. So that's why he got.
• 39:10
  Cut because he couldn't play any defense.
• 39:12
  He was getting beat every time they pulled him out to the
• 39:14
  three-point line. He couldn't find his way back
• 39:17
  into the shell of the defense. He was he was a high draft pick.
• 39:20
  He was supposed to be like the the second guy on that Sun's
• 39:24
  team and he ended up getting cut.
• 39:25
  Let me ask you guys a question. If you were playing with LeBron
• 39:28
  James and after the game he speaks to the media and he
• 39:31
  throws you guys under the bus, do you want to play with LeBron
• 39:34
  James? I mean, honestly, I don't care
• 39:36
  if it's the great LeBron James, one of the greatest basketball
• 39:39
  players ever play the game. Some people say top three.
• 39:41
  I think he's a top three player right behind Michael Jordan
• 39:45
  because of all the great things that he has done for the game of
• 39:48
  basketball. But the fact here is, did you
• 39:50
  ever hear Michael Jordan go to the media and throw players
• 39:53
  under the bus, teammates under the bus?
• 39:55
  He never did. He would speak to the players
• 39:57
  away from the media. He didn't go to the media and
• 39:59
  say, ah, Dennis Rodman's got to play better.
• 40:02
  Oh, Scottie Pippen or Luke or or Tony Cuco, she's got to play
• 40:06
  better. Or BJ Armstrong or Horace Grant.
• 40:09
  You never. When he was at practice, he
• 40:11
  would viscerate them by talking down to them or punching in the
• 40:14
  face. Go ask Steve Kerr.
• 40:16
  Steve Kerr knows the whole story.
• 40:19
  Steve Kerr has been on the documentary the the last.
• 40:23
  Steve Kerr got punched by Michael Jordan and Steve Kerr
• 40:27
  didn't attack. He didn't he didn't speak back
• 40:29
  to Michael Jordan. He showed Michael Jordan.
• 40:31
  He took it and Michael Jordan learned how to respect Steve
• 40:34
  Kerr and became very friendly with Steve Kerr.
• 40:37
  I Michael Michael Jordan never took shots of his own players or
• 40:41
  the organization. Michael Jordan spoke to very
• 40:44
  close people after the organization didn't do them
• 40:47
  right. The GM over there with the Bulls
• 40:50
  didn't want want to bring Scottie Pippen back.
• 40:52
  They wanted to trade Scottie Pippen to the Portland Trail
• 40:54
  Blazers. And Michael Jordan said, you
• 40:56
  know what, you trade Scottie Pippen, I'm walking away from
• 40:58
  the game of basketball. And that's what he did.
• 41:00
  He he spoke. He spoke when he needed to
• 41:03
  speak. LeBron James now uses this
• 41:06
  platform to not only speak what he thinks is the truth about
• 41:10
  this team and this organization, but now he's throwing players
• 41:13
  under the bus. He used to throw other players
• 41:15
  that he played against under the bus.
• 41:17
  He doesn't do that anymore because he's not as good as
• 41:19
  them. I would say that LeBron James is
• 41:22
  James Harden right now. That's what he is.
• 41:24
  He is he's that type of player. Now, I'm not saying that he he's
• 41:28
  not better than James Harden. I think he does a lot of things
• 41:30
  better than James Harden, but he's that type of player.
• 41:32
  What is James Harden averaging right now?
• 41:34
  What is the average 2324? That's when LeBron.
• 41:37
  James is averaging. How many rebounds is he?
• 41:39
  Is he averaging a game? I would imagine like 5 at most.
• 41:42
  And and assists sex. Something same.
• 41:45
  As LeBron James. They're the same type of player
• 41:48
  and but I I'll tell you this right now, I would take LeBron
• 41:51
  20. 5/8 and five I'll take. I take.
• 41:54
  James Harden right now, I, I, I understand I'll take LeBron
• 41:59
  James because of his winning ways.
• 42:01
  And if I'm going to bet on somebody in, in a playoff game,
• 42:04
  I'm betting on LeBron James because he's proven to be a
• 42:06
  playoff player and James Harden isn't.
• 42:08
  But if you look at their talents right now, I'd like an older
• 42:12
  James Harden over an older LeBron James.
• 42:15
  I would. And that's why Cleveland made
• 42:16
  that move and and trading for him because they think they have
• 42:20
  a better chance of winning with him than LeBron James.
• 42:23
  And watch, if LeBron James goes to the goes to Cleveland next
• 42:27
  year and has to be James Harden and and Mitchell's counter
• 42:32
  partner, is that going to work? Because what's going to happen
• 42:35
  over there? If he goes over there and these
• 42:37
  guys aren't playing at a top level, he's going to throw them
• 42:39
  under the bus. How is that going to work?
• 42:41
  James Harden didn't like the fact that Kevin Durant and Kyrie
• 42:44
  Irving were talking about him over there with the Brooklyn
• 42:46
  Nets. And that's why he was no longer
• 42:49
  there. He didn't want to stay there
• 42:50
  anymore. And those were his two buddies
• 42:53
  and Mitchell. He wasn't getting along with
• 42:55
  players, including the player that they traded away for James
• 42:58
  Harden. And Mitchell is one of those
• 43:01
  guys that can't handle the the media and the junction of people
• 43:05
  talking about him. So how is that going to work is
• 43:08
  that? And they have a competing coach
• 43:10
  that actually knows what he's doing.
• 43:12
  So I I don't know how this is going to work.
• 43:15
  And again, I'm not blaming the Lakers organization and making
• 43:19
  the move and giving LeBron James the money.
• 43:20
  I I blame LeBron James. If LeBron James thought that
• 43:23
  this team had an opportunity to win, he should have taken less
• 43:27
  money and resigned with the Lakers for two years and given
• 43:30
  them enough opportunity to go out there and bring in another
• 43:34
  one or two free agents that can help them win.
• 43:36
  Am I wrong or right? Yeah.
• 43:38
  The other problem too I think with.
• 43:39
  LeBron, this situation now you're seeing a lot of these
• 43:42
  types of his generation type of players try to think they could
• 43:45
  still dictate everything. And I think other GM's now, not
• 43:48
  all of them, obviously not the Nets, not the Clippers and teams
• 43:51
  like that, but GM's have started to cater to that.
• 43:53
  Say we're going to have you as the finishing piece, not as the
• 43:57
  main piece to build around. the Rockets did that with Kevin
• 43:59
  Durant just recently. They traded for him and they
• 44:01
  didn't think about much in the offseason outside of Dylan
• 44:04
  Brooks, who's played well, but they didn't think of much
• 44:05
  besides that same kind of thing with James Harden just now.
• 44:07
  Now I love it for Garland, one for one.
• 44:10
  No, I actually think a player like Reeves would have been a
• 44:12
  really good fit with the Cavs if he was healthy.
• 44:14
  Like maybe that's the trade piece they go after, maybe not
• 44:16
  James Harden, but Even so, like the Cavs have viewed that as a
• 44:19
  missing piece. Don't you think that if?
• 44:21
  LeBron James decides to not play for it because I think he has
• 44:25
  one more year left on his contract.
• 44:26
  The Lakers decide to trade him, trade him to the Cleveland
• 44:30
  Cavalier. I don't know what the Lakers
• 44:31
  get. Maybe draft stock, draft picks
• 44:34
  and he goes to I I mean, you keep Austin Reeves, you build
• 44:37
  around Austin Reeves and Luka Tonchik, right?
• 44:39
  And you try to build around the draft or maybe you add a Giannis
• 44:43
  in the long run because you might be able to get that get
• 44:46
  that move done or something like that.
• 44:47
  Now again, Austin Reeves is because of the year he's having
• 44:51
  right now, he's going to ask for I I wouldn't say a super Max,
• 44:54
  but a Max contract. He'll definitely get a Max
• 44:56
  contract. He's going to get a.
• 44:57
  About 180. To $200 million a year Austin
• 45:00
  Reeves was a great pick up for them, but if you like I said
• 45:02
  going back to their past and and what they've done in the last 10
• 45:05
  to 12 years when it comes to draft picks they have an apps
• 45:08
  they've absolutely bombed and is again this goes back to the
• 45:11
  Knicks. If you think about all the
• 45:12
  years, all the top draft picks the Knicks have had when they
• 45:17
  had a chance to go after guys like Stephen Curry, who didn't
• 45:21
  fall to them. They he fell one once, one pick
• 45:25
  ahead of them. Where if, if Steph Curry goes to
• 45:28
  the New York Knicks at six, that trajectory would have probably
• 45:32
  changed the New York Knicks organization.
• 45:35
  Because if Steph Curry goes to the Knicks, maybe they, they're
• 45:38
  the Golden State Warriors. So I, I mean, I'm, I'm just
• 45:42
  throwing spitballs and hopefully it sticks.
• 45:45
  But instead, we drafted Jordan. Hill, Jordan Hill.
• 45:47
  See how it worked out? For us, yes.
• 45:49
  Jordan Hill was a Knick. For probably three years and
• 45:52
  eventually gone as every other Knick.
• 45:54
  I remember the time the Knicks had three first round draft
• 45:57
  picks. It was Wallace.
• 45:59
  There was a kid from Kentucky, they had three first round draft
• 46:02
  picks. It it just never panned out.
• 46:04
  And and again, it's just the way the lottery works.
• 46:07
  And maybe the NBA didn't want the Knicks to have top end
• 46:09
  picks. The best pick the Knicks have
• 46:11
  had in the last, I would say in the next last 15 years.
• 46:14
  RJ Barrett and poor Zingis. Poor Zingis eventually wins a
• 46:17
  championship with the Celtics and RJ Barrett is no longer with
• 46:20
  the Knicks. They traded him for OG and
• 46:22
  Anobi, which is a great move for the Knicks, but again, a guy
• 46:25
  that really didn't develop with the New York Knicks the way the
• 46:28
  Knicks wanted him to. So I, I'm just speaking what I I
• 46:32
  see the Knicks are the Lakers are turning into what the Knicks
• 46:35
  organization was after the 90s. An organization that reaches
• 46:40
  brings in coaches, brings in GMs or has AGM that absolutely
• 46:44
  doesn't know what he's doing. And now you're slowly remember
• 46:47
  the GM of the Lakers is is Kobe Bryant's agents.
• 46:53
  Think about that. Kobe Bryant is the one that told
• 46:56
  the Lakers to hire him as the GM of the organization.
• 46:59
  He's been there ever since blank has been there for a while and
• 47:01
  and has he achieved has he achieved anything since he's
• 47:04
  taken over for the team? He won a championship.
• 47:07
  He made he made the move for Anthony Davis, which eventually
• 47:10
  made them win a championship during COVID, the bubble years.
• 47:14
  But again, the lake the Lakers have not been good.
• 47:17
  They have not drafted rights and that goes for the executive.
• 47:20
  Go look at what the New York the New York Knicks have done over
• 47:24
  the last couple of years. And and this is how you know
• 47:26
  they're competent. They find guys like Emmanuel
• 47:29
  quickly at the at the end of the first round, who was a part of
• 47:33
  that RJ Barrett trade that brought in OG and Anobi.
• 47:36
  How about the second round? You look at the second round
• 47:38
  picks that they've had a Kolik and all these other McBride, all
• 47:42
  these other guys that they brought in from the
• 47:44
  organization. You have to understand how to
• 47:46
  draft players or find players in the later rounds of the draft.
• 47:50
  And the Lakers have not done that.
• 47:52
  What they did was they brought in Bronie James because it made
• 47:55
  LeBron James happy. So it that's that I think has
• 47:58
  been a big problem for the Lakers is they haven't been put,
• 48:02
  they haven't put their organization and the
• 48:04
  organization hasn't put themselves in the position to
• 48:06
  succeed. All right, The NBA All Star game
• 48:10
  is right around the corner and it begins on Friday with, of
• 48:15
  course, a couple new changes to the format this year.
• 48:19
  Commissioner Adam Silver, who we absolutely love, and the league
• 48:23
  have decided on going back to the USA versus the world format
• 48:28
  with three teams and two USA teams, stars and stripes and an
• 48:34
  international All Star team. Charles Barkley took shots at
• 48:38
  both LeBron James and Kevin Durant, saying they have turned
• 48:42
  the event into a mockery because they don't show any effort.
• 48:47
  Duran, who took offense, basically told Barkley I don't
• 48:51
  want your life. That's what he says and took
• 48:54
  shots at him and other old heads criticizing the Americans effort
• 49:00
  but not Jokic or Luka for doing basically the same.
• 49:05
  There will be several new events this year in the lead up of the
• 49:10
  game on Sunday such as the HBCU Challenge, the Shooting Stars
• 49:16
  Challenge and the G League All Star Game that is separate from
• 49:22
  the Rising Stars Challenge. The Dunk Contest continues to
• 49:26
  struggle to get big stars to participate with Jackson Hayes,
• 49:32
  the Lakers center and the only starter of the bunch, as well as
• 49:37
  Spurs forward Carter Bryant, Heath forward Kasha Johnson and
• 49:42
  Matt and and Magic guard and son of former Dunk contest winner
• 49:47
  Jason Richardson. Jay's Richardson.
• 49:50
  I'm sorry, Jay's Richardson, I don't know what that means.
• 49:52
  Speedy in the three-point contest, rookie Kahn Knuble,
• 49:58
  Norman Powell, Bobby Portis, Tyrese Maxie, Jamal Murray,
• 50:03
  Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker and Damian Lillard.
• 50:07
  Oh, who will compete despite not playing all season with a torn
• 50:12
  Achilles? I look at the everybody.
• 50:16
  Looks forward to the skills competition and Slam Thunk
• 50:19
  contest. And when you look at the names
• 50:20
  that stick out to you, there's nobody on this list that excites
• 50:24
  me. I would have liked to see and as
• 50:27
  again, some of the young talent that we've seen that has been
• 50:30
  drafted over the last couple years.
• 50:31
  The last time I could remember that this was fun to watch was I
• 50:36
  think who's the Orlando Magic superstar that is now with the
• 50:39
  Nuggets, Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon, who was the other
• 50:42
  guy from the Bulls? Yeah, Levine.
• 50:45
  So it was Levine and Aaron Gordon.
• 50:47
  When was the last dunk contest? That really stuck out to me.
• 50:50
  That was fun to watch. And then if you remember in the
• 50:53
  past and then and again the Vince Carter time with, with
• 50:58
  Tracy McGrady and those you want to see the young superstars
• 51:02
  compete. Why hasn't Anthony Edwards put
• 51:05
  himself in the slam dunk contest now that LeBron James is walking
• 51:08
  away from the game of basketball?
• 51:10
  Everybody wanted to see LeBron James compete in the slam dunk
• 51:13
  contest. Why doesn't he do it now at the
• 51:16
  tail end of his career? That would be fun to watch to
• 51:18
  see the the end of his career end up the way everybody wanted
• 51:21
  to see it in the beginning in a slam dunk contest.
• 51:24
  I I mean, the dunk contest always stands out.
• 51:27
  And, and again, you have guys over the last couple of years
• 51:31
  that are coming from the G League has won multiple times.
• 51:34
  Nate Robertson, I remember won three times in a row or three
• 51:38
  times in his career as a dunker because he was 5 foot 8 and he
• 51:42
  could just jump high against Dwight Howard, who was coming
• 51:45
  out of, you know, coming out of what do they call a telephone,
• 51:48
  you know, wherever he was coming out Booth as a Superman and
• 51:52
  jumping. I mean, I just, it's become a
• 51:55
  spectacle. It's not not fun to watch
• 51:57
  anymore. Am I looking forward to the slam
• 52:00
  dunk contest? No, because none of these guys
• 52:02
  really stand out to me. And that goes to if if you can't
• 52:06
  find these guys, if you can't find NBA players that can dunk
• 52:09
  or want a dunk, then you bring some of these St.
• 52:11
  Ballers in to compete against the NBA players.
• 52:14
  I would like to see a street baller, a New York or a Chicago
• 52:18
  St. bowler. I mean, I, I've seen guys like
• 52:21
  Shaquille O'Neal host slam dunk contest for guys that are more
• 52:25
  known for Instagram and, and, and all the different platforms
• 52:29
  that they're on doing all these amazing crazy dunks.
• 52:32
  I would like to see one of these guys compete against NBA
• 52:35
  superstars in a dunk contest. That would be fun to watch.
• 52:39
  The way they're putting this together makes absolutely no
• 52:41
  sense. As far as the USA world format,
• 52:44
  who cares? It's only to me, it's just to
• 52:47
  draw the fan or have the fans or maybe even the players get to
• 52:52
  compete with each other and and maybe the World Team knocks off
• 52:55
  the United States team. Because if you look at the
• 52:57
  talent on the World Team with guys like Giannis and Luka and
• 53:00
  Yokich, I mean, the World Team is much better than the United
• 53:04
  States team if you look at the talent.
• 53:06
  But again, the, as far as the All Star game, it's just
• 53:11
  honestly, it's just a perk. It's, it's an opportunity.
• 53:14
  I think you make money playing in the All Star game.
• 53:16
  I think these players make a certain amount of $100,000.
• 53:19
  So it's extra money for the players.
• 53:21
  It's put on your, your basketball card or put on your
• 53:24
  Wikipedia that you're, you, you're a six time All Star, A5
• 53:28
  time All Star. I guess that's nice to have on
• 53:31
  your, your record if you want to be, you know, a Hall of Famer.
• 53:34
  I mean, there's nothing that really makes the All Star Game
• 53:37
  weekend spectacular except the extravaganza that it brings to
• 53:42
  the table wherever it's being held.
• 53:44
  All the after parties or all the opportunities to get to hang out
• 53:47
  with the players or the players get to hang out with one another
• 53:50
  and party with one another with their families.
• 53:52
  I honestly think that this should be rid of, I think the
• 53:56
  All Star Game in not only just football, I think hockey should
• 54:00
  keep it cuz I think hockey is still competitive.
• 54:02
  It's still fun. I like what the NHL did last
• 54:05
  year with USA and Canada. I think they should do that
• 54:08
  every single year cuz it shows the competitive nature that
• 54:12
  teams want to play for their colors and their countries.
• 54:15
  That's cool. But this with the basketball and
• 54:19
  football I, I and even baseball I I think it the Home Run Derby
• 54:23
  stupid. Now I and and and even the
• 54:25
  baseball game, nobody plays hard.
• 54:27
  It doesn't mean anything. Get rid of them.
• 54:29
  Get rid of them. I, I I.
• 54:32
  Just I don't know how how. Far, I want to put this for the
• 54:35
  NBA to freaking understand that it's not competitive anymore.
• 54:39
  It's not It doesn't. That's absolutely what I think
• 54:43
  of Adam Silver now. Adam Silver is is a joke and
• 54:46
  what he's done and what he's put together for the All Star and
• 54:49
  even for the NBA as a whole, I like what he's done.
• 54:52
  I'll tell you this, Adam Silver and all these commissioners have
• 54:56
  found ways to bring in more TV deals, more money for players to
• 55:00
  make and and owners to to live off of and and really build the
• 55:05
  product with the new opportunities to make money.
• 55:08
  There's no question that he's done that.
• 55:10
  But me, Speedy Fish, Jabba, any one of us could put that
• 55:14
  together if we have the a big brand, a big a very popular
• 55:20
  brand. Think about this and I'll go
• 55:22
  back to the NBA players. The NBA players are the most
• 55:24
  popular on the social medias. If you look at LeBron James, you
• 55:30
  look at Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, if you follow them, you
• 55:33
  know that everybody is interactive with these guys.
• 55:36
  They're they're the most interactive out of all the
• 55:39
  athletes and professional sports.
• 55:41
  So the NBA has done very, very well working through social
• 55:45
  media and content. And they created platforms for
• 55:49
  these players to bring in opportunities to make money on
• 55:52
  and off the basketball courts. But when you look at the All
• 55:55
  Star game and what the All Star, All Star, All Star game brings,
• 55:59
  Charles Barkley is absolutely right.
• 56:02
  There is no more more Michael Jordans or Larry Birds or Magic
• 56:05
  Johnsons. There is no more competitive
• 56:08
  nature. These guys are best friends.
• 56:10
  These guys are godfathers of each others kids.
• 56:13
  These guys don't hate each other, they love each other.
• 56:16
  There's no, there's no attack by, by any of these, these teams
• 56:21
  or these players against one another.
• 56:23
  They're, they love each other. And in, in the olden days, in
• 56:26
  the 80s and the 90s, Michael Jordan couldn't stand Isaiah
• 56:29
  Thomas. Isaiah Thomas couldn't stand
• 56:31
  Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan.
• 56:33
  I mean, Bill Lambier couldn't stand the Philadelphia 76ers.
• 56:39
  And, and I don't know, doc doctor, you know, any one of
• 56:45
  these guys. I'm trying to think of pop pop
• 56:47
  into my head. What, what I remember in the 80s
• 56:49
  and the 90s, Charles Barkley couldn't stand Shaquille O'Neal.
• 56:52
  Now they're buddies and they're brothers in, in those days, in
• 56:55
  the 80s and the 90s, they didn't like each other.
• 56:58
  They didn't like Patrick Ewing, couldn't stand, couldn't stand
• 57:01
  the, the, the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan and, and, and and
• 57:05
  guys like John Starks couldn't stand Horace Grant on the, the,
• 57:10
  the Chicago Bulls. It it's there's no competitive
• 57:14
  nature anymore. These guys are best friends.
• 57:16
  So that to have an All Star game where there's no competitive,
• 57:20
  no, none of these guys want to compete against each other.
• 57:21
  Nobody wants to dunk because they're afraid of getting hurt.
• 57:25
  Their three-point contest. That's great shooting 3
• 57:27
  pointers. All these guys.
• 57:28
  I could shoot a three pointer if I'm shooting 500 threes every
• 57:31
  single day. I'm not saying I can shoot them
• 57:33
  like Con Canubal, but I, I, I'm I'm going to hit a pretty good
• 57:38
  lick of these shots if I'm shooting 500 shots a game a day.
• 57:41
  So I just don't think there's any competitive nature anymore.
• 57:44
  And if there's no competitive nature for the All Star game and
• 57:47
  and these skills competitions, they get rid of them.
• 57:51
  Yeah, I was going to mention that.
• 57:52
  The dunk contest. I think is something that can
• 57:54
  get overblown with like the type of injuries you can suffer too,
• 57:57
  like you could low manage all you want, but a lot of the
• 57:59
  injuries that are are in the NBA for a lot of these day-to-day
• 58:02
  things are even lower. Lower body injuries, ankle
• 58:05
  injuries, tissue, stuff like that.
• 58:07
  It's not something that's just achieved by, oh, I'm going to
• 58:09
  fall down after a dunk or anything like that, or I'm going
• 58:11
  to I'm going to do. It's one thing.
• 58:12
  It's a leg injury on a lift off type thing.
• 58:14
  But again, that's something that if you're a younger guy, you're
• 58:17
  going to be well conditioned for.
• 58:18
  That's why I think you're right. Anthony Edwards is probably
• 58:20
  something that's perfect. I'm not saying veteran guys
• 58:22
  should have to compete in the dunk contest.
• 58:23
  Why doesn't Cooper Flair compete?
• 58:25
  Well, he's hurt right now. I'm just.
• 58:27
  Saying he's actually hurt, right?
• 58:28
  That's not what I'm that's not what I'm saying.
• 58:30
  I understand he's hurt. Why doesn't he compete in a slam
• 58:33
  dunk contest? Even if he wasn't hurt, is he
• 58:35
  competing in the slam dunk contest?
• 58:37
  He's not right, So that's not what I'm saying.
• 58:40
  Why aren't the young superstars going out there and competing in
• 58:44
  the big contests so all the young fans get a chance to see
• 58:48
  how athletic and how gifted they are as players?
• 58:52
  Yeah, the Anthony Edwards, the Wendy's.
• 58:53
  Guys like, that's not what I'm talking.
• 58:55
  Those are the guys that should. Be competing in the dunk.
• 58:57
  Contest because those are the big names.
• 58:58
  Why shouldn't Cooper flag? Compete in the the slam dunk
• 59:01
  contest. Stop saying he's hurt.
• 59:03
  If he wasn't, he's not competing in it.
• 59:06
  I'm saying this, if you're a young superstar, you've been in
• 59:10
  a league for two or three or even 4 years and you've never
• 59:14
  been in one of these competitions and you have
• 59:16
  something to give to these competitions on the athletic
• 59:19
  gifts that you have. You should be in these
• 59:22
  competitions for not not for your peers, but for the fans out
• 59:27
  there wanting to see you dunk, do a wheel.
• 59:30
  I, I don't know, reverse pump, slam dunk or whatever the hell
• 59:33
  you call these crazy, weird dunks that you have.
• 59:37
  That's what I want to see. You want to entertain people.
• 59:40
  If you're not going to entertain people, you shouldn't have these
• 59:42
  competitions. Yeah, even international too.
• 59:45
  Like they're. Trying to push all this USA
• 59:46
  versus the world thing too, Like you could try to compete these
• 59:48
  kind of things in the with the dunk contest too with again,
• 59:52
  somebody like Wendy, all these other international superstars
• 59:54
  that are coming. Obviously Giannis is a veteran
• 59:57
  guy, so maybe he had his chance earlier in his career.
• 59:59
  But Even so, like that could uplift that could get these more
• 1:00:02
  these kids to watch in Greece too.
• 1:00:04
  Like you want to be able to brand it that way.
• 1:00:06
  And then you have all these guys that want to drop out and that's
• 1:00:09
  why I was kind of going to get out.
• 1:00:10
  They're not dropping out. They're not even getting.
• 1:00:11
  Offers and that's where you look at.
• 1:00:13
  This generational gap that you're seeing that LeBron has
• 1:00:16
  brought in today, it's it's a lot of the LeBron generation
• 1:00:19
  started this with not warning to do it.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah. And obviously there were some
• 1:00:22
  younger guys after that too, like you said, Aaron Gordon and
• 1:00:23
  Zach Levine did after that. I I think it's really the 2014
• 1:00:27
  like and before that and and 2003 between those two errors.
• 1:00:31
  Those are the errors of the guys that were all these guys that
• 1:00:33
  said, Oh, I don't want to participate in this kind of
• 1:00:35
  thing outside of Dwight Howard and a couple others that didn't
• 1:00:37
  that didn't want to do it. And now you're seeing a carry
• 1:00:40
  over into this generation where a lot of these guys are the ones
• 1:00:43
  that are outside of Anthony Edwards.
• 1:00:45
  They're not as outspoken. Now they're actually they're
• 1:00:47
  doing it a little more methodically.
• 1:00:48
  And I think that's where I think Kevin Durant's trying to get,
• 1:00:51
  oh, why is Nicole Yokich and Luka Doncic not being slinner.
• 1:00:53
  OK, but you're not doing it either, Kevin.
• 1:00:55
  So like, it's not something that you could just attack these
• 1:00:58
  international stars. They're trying to grow their
• 1:00:59
  country. Does anybody want to see Yokich?
• 1:01:02
  Dunk, I mean, he's what, 260 lbs and he's a six foot 11, seven
• 1:01:08
  foot man. I don't want to see him.
• 1:01:10
  Luka Doncic, he doesn't really have that athletic ability to
• 1:01:13
  dunk, but Cooper flag, we've seen what he can do with a
• 1:01:16
  basketball, especially his dunking.
• 1:01:18
  If you look at some of the young superstars that we've seen, some
• 1:01:21
  of the young guards that they have.
• 1:01:23
  How about the kid Harper? Why don't we see him in a dunk
• 1:01:25
  contest? I would love to see young Harper
• 1:01:28
  in in in the dunk contest. Some of the young superstars
• 1:01:31
  that we've heard over the years, the athletic gifts that they
• 1:01:34
  have now look at this draft class that's coming out in 2
• 1:01:37
  thousand 2627. These guys are totally gifted,
• 1:01:41
  so talented. Are we ever going to see these
• 1:01:43
  guys in a dunk contest? The BYU kid or Cam Boozer or
• 1:01:47
  even the kid from Kansas, these guys are athletically gifted.
• 1:01:51
  Why aren't, are they going to be in the dunk contest next year or
• 1:01:54
  they're going to be just like all these other NBA players?
• 1:01:57
  You know what? I don't need to be in these
• 1:01:58
  contests. I don't have anything to prove.
• 1:02:01
  I'm making millions and millions of dollars.
• 1:02:02
  I earn the right to be here. I don't need to entertain the
• 1:02:05
  fans. Meanwhile, the All Star Games
• 1:02:07
  are there to entertain. Entertain the fans, not hang out
• 1:02:10
  with your buddies or hang out with your family.
• 1:02:12
  You're there because you're an All Star.
• 1:02:14
  You're a superstar. You're invited to entertain the
• 1:02:17
  fans. Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  And I think that's why you're seeing.
• 1:02:19
  All these other events that are coming in the secondary event, I
• 1:02:21
  I think part of it wants to grow the diversity of the game too,
• 1:02:24
  obviously with the HBCU and some of the shooting stars.
• 1:02:27
  And they want to they want the NBA wants to make it very
• 1:02:30
  inclusive, which I'm good on that standpoint too.
• 1:02:31
  But they're also trying to reach because they know that if you're
• 1:02:34
  not going to get young talent, if you're not going to get
• 1:02:36
  veteran talent, to want to be able to give it their all,
• 1:02:38
  you're going to have to have the young talent shine in a
• 1:02:40
  different way. Michael Jordan, when he.
• 1:02:42
  Was doing these dunk contests against Wilkins, Dominique
• 1:02:46
  Wilkins and all that other stuff.
• 1:02:48
  Michael Jordan did it to the fans.
• 1:02:49
  He didn't do it for his peers. He went out there because he
• 1:02:53
  wanted to compete and he wanted the fans to be wowed and wowed
• 1:02:58
  by his ability to soar through the sky.
• 1:03:01
  All right? Same thing with Vince Carter.
• 1:03:03
  The ability that he had, he knew he was athletically gifted and
• 1:03:06
  he wanted to show everybody on a national stage that this guy
• 1:03:10
  could go out there and do dunks and and show things that
• 1:03:13
  nobody's ever seen before on a nationally televised, you know,
• 1:03:18
  you know, event. And now you have you'll have all
• 1:03:21
  these young superstars that some people say are more athletically
• 1:03:24
  gifted than guys like Michael Jordan, like Kobe Bryant, like
• 1:03:28
  Vince Carter. And none of these guys want to
• 1:03:31
  compete in these in these games anymore in in these
• 1:03:34
  competitions. You know why?
• 1:03:35
  Because they don't want to get hurt and they don't care about
• 1:03:38
  the fans. That to me is a big problem.
• 1:03:40
  The NBA needs to step in if this isn't going to work and Adam
• 1:03:44
  Silver can't get these guys to compete.
• 1:03:45
  They get rid of these competitions, get rid of the All
• 1:03:48
  Star game. I don't want to see flag
• 1:03:50
  football in the NFL anymore. They don't tackle, they don't
• 1:03:53
  hit, they don't do anything. They don't look like they play.
• 1:03:56
  They invite Shador Sanders and Justin Fields to play in these
• 1:04:01
  games that nobody gives a crap about because nobody else wants
• 1:04:04
  to play in against. If these players do not want to
• 1:04:06
  compete and these players do not want to go besides hanging out
• 1:04:09
  with their peers and enjoy enjoying the extravaganza
• 1:04:13
  against, you know, at these events, just watching all these
• 1:04:16
  self-proclaimed super or young young players or half assed
• 1:04:21
  second round picks go out and and and compete in the dunk
• 1:04:24
  contest. They get rid of the dunk
• 1:04:26
  contest. Yeah.
• 1:04:27
  And the other problem they have too is.
• 1:04:29
  Like when it's located in the season too, where a lot of these
• 1:04:31
  players are already load managing as it is and that's
• 1:04:33
  what this generation is and they're going to be stuck doing
• 1:04:35
  it. It's not like you could say, all
• 1:04:36
  right, let's go push the event to the beginning of the season
• 1:04:38
  because then you don't have a good enough sample of who
• 1:04:40
  actually should be All Stars and who shouldn't, even though it's
• 1:04:42
  just going to be a popularity contest anyway.
• 1:04:43
  And I want to say something to all the.
• 1:04:45
  Fans, we, we always trying to find stories that we can draw
• 1:04:48
  fans to kind of give our take. And that's it's right now with
• 1:04:52
  the transition of the NFL season now that's over.
• 1:04:56
  And now we're we're going to go into March Madness and
• 1:04:59
  baseball's still not here. And you have hockey and
• 1:05:01
  basketball. Hockey right now is it?
• 1:05:04
  It's right now it's, it's on hold because they're in the
• 1:05:07
  Olympics. All the players are in the
• 1:05:08
  Olympics. So the only thing to talk about
• 1:05:10
  right now is the NBA and LeBron James is a big story and this
• 1:05:15
  stupid All Star extravaganza that's coming up this weekend
• 1:05:19
  that nobody cares about. I mean, nobody because every
• 1:05:23
  single player, I don't want to hear about Jason Richardson son
• 1:05:27
  in in the slam dunk contest. This isn't Jason Richardson.
• 1:05:31
  So there's nobody that really stands out in the dunk contest.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah, the three-point contest. I it's cool getting to see Con
• 1:05:37
  Canoople and and Mitchell and all these other guys and and now
• 1:05:41
  you get to see Damian Lillard come back to shoot threes
• 1:05:43
  because he's been out the whole season.
• 1:05:45
  That's great. But nobody cares about the
• 1:05:47
  three-point contest in these skills competition.
• 1:05:50
  Everybody looks forward to the dunk contest.
• 1:05:52
  And by the way, the dunk contest have been horrible the last four
• 1:05:57
  years. Horrible.
• 1:05:58
  They arrow, they have a stat and I.
• 1:05:59
  Don't know if you know about this stat, Speedy.
• 1:06:01
  It's called the dunk score. And they they measure like how
• 1:06:05
  good a dunk is in game and the figure.
• 1:06:08
  And that basically tells you who the best dunkers are this year.
• 1:06:11
  The names of the top Justin Champagne from Washington,
• 1:06:15
  Shaden Sharp, who is the guy that I personally would love to
• 1:06:19
  see in the dunk contest from Portland.
• 1:06:22
  I'm going to put up some of his dunks right now while we're
• 1:06:24
  talking. It was like that at Kentucky
• 1:06:26
  too, but he barely. Played unbelievable and he's.
• 1:06:28
  Been playing pretty well. He's really developing.
• 1:06:31
  He just hammers it down on everybody.
• 1:06:33
  Jalen Smith, he's another guy that a big dunker.
• 1:06:35
  Onyeko Okongwu is #4 and Zion Williamson, everybody knows Zion
• 1:06:40
  can dunk. I'd love to see Zion do one of
• 1:06:42
  these before he loses his UPS. You know, Brandon Miller has
• 1:06:46
  really high dunk scores. He's another real high flyer,
• 1:06:49
  young guy on the Hornets. Who's Ellis?
• 1:06:53
  We've already seen do it. He's he's somebody that's a good
• 1:06:56
  dunker. And then it's just, you know, a
• 1:06:58
  bunch of guys. We don't really hear from much.
• 1:07:01
  Nobody. Nobody cares.
• 1:07:03
  About the All Star game, everybody cares about the skills
• 1:07:05
  competition and the only thing that I look forward to in the
• 1:07:09
  skills competition is the dunk contest.
• 1:07:12
  That's all. I look forward to it.
• 1:07:13
  That whole All Star weekend is completely ridiculous without a
• 1:07:18
  great dunk contest and every single year for the last three
• 1:07:22
  or four years has been horrible to watch.
• 1:07:25
  You listen to guys like Kenny Smith and, and all the other
• 1:07:29
  guys, Shaquille O'Neal and Charles Barkley when they talk
• 1:07:32
  about these dunks and they're, they're grading in 50s when
• 1:07:35
  they're not even great dunks. There's nothing, there's nothing
• 1:07:37
  impressive about these dunkers. And why?
• 1:07:40
  Because they're just grading at that high because there's
• 1:07:43
  nothing impressive about any of them.
• 1:07:45
  So it's just, you know, the Mac Mcclung dunks were.
• 1:07:48
  Good. Except he wasn't an NBA player
• 1:07:50
  doing him. He was like a dunk specialist.
• 1:07:53
  And Mcclung doesn't want to compete.
• 1:07:54
  Anymore, he's done it what, 3-4 years?
• 1:07:57
  He was dominant. As a matter of fact, my cousin
• 1:08:00
  and his brother got a chance to see, to get to meet Mclonkey.
• 1:08:04
  He trains out here, he does these dunk sessions out here on
• 1:08:08
  trying to create new dunks because he just loves to do it.
• 1:08:13
  And, and he got a chance to meet my, my cousin's got to meet
• 1:08:16
  Mclonk and it was pretty cool. I mean, I seen the picture.
• 1:08:19
  I, I was actually send you the picture so you can post it up.
• 1:08:21
  But it's, it's pretty cool. But man, I've heard Mcclunk is a
• 1:08:24
  really, really nice guy. It would have been cool to see
• 1:08:27
  Mclonk compete until somebody beats him, but I don't think
• 1:08:30
  anybody is going to be able to beat this kid and because
• 1:08:33
  there's nobody anywhere close to the talent in these dunk
• 1:08:37
  contests with with Mcclunk, even these guys that we see that were
• 1:08:40
  the the list of guys that are going to be in the dunk contest
• 1:08:42
  this year. I don't think I'm excited about
• 1:08:44
  any one of them. It's horrible.
• 1:08:46
  I, I just, I'm not looking forward to the, the NBA All Star
• 1:08:50
  weekends. And again, this, this is
• 1:08:53
  probably the turning point of the sports year because like I
• 1:08:58
  said, the NHL is on hold. They're at the Olympics.
• 1:09:02
  The NBA is the only thing going on.
• 1:09:03
  Baseballs, pitchers and catchers are coming up.
• 1:09:06
  But baseball doesn't start for another probably 3-4 weeks until
• 1:09:11
  spring training. So we're not, there's really
• 1:09:13
  nothing to talk about baseball and March Madness is exciting
• 1:09:17
  because it's three weeks away, 4 weeks away.
• 1:09:19
  But again, this is, this is like the stalling part.
• 1:09:23
  I mean, the Masters isn't the Masters coming up.
• 1:09:25
  That's April. That's right, after.
• 1:09:27
  So I I mean. So this is probably the worst
• 1:09:30
  time when it comes to sports. So you're reaching when it comes
• 1:09:32
  to sports and radio and television because you're trying
• 1:09:35
  to find something to talk about. It's this time.
• 1:09:38
  And then the worst I think is the second worst.
• 1:09:40
  The worst is definitely middle of July baseball All Star break
• 1:09:44
  when there's literally just nothing else.
• 1:09:46
  There's no football yet. Basketball and hockey are over.
• 1:09:50
  Is literally there's nothing on, well, pitch grid, Pod says.
• 1:09:54
  The Premier League and he's right.
• 1:09:56
  It is heating up right now. I'm sorry, soccer.
• 1:09:59
  Is he I'm? Football is is heating up.
• 1:10:01
  When I speak to Jeff, he says this is the best.
• 1:10:03
  Time to to bet on European or soccer, whatever you want to
• 1:10:07
  call it, because this is a time for the championships and like
• 1:10:10
  that. So I love betting on overs.
• 1:10:13
  Of 2 1/2 So much fun. Watch.
• 1:10:16
  I love playing soccer as a kid, I was I was really good.
• 1:10:19
  I was a center forward and I was a goalie and I dominated it
• 1:10:22
  until everyone got bigger, faster and stronger than I was
• 1:10:26
  and that was it for me. But I love the game.
• 1:10:29
  I just, I never really understood that as a spectator
• 1:10:31
  thing except like, you know, during the World Cup and stuff.
• 1:10:34
  I've watched it. I don't know, Errol.
• 1:10:36
  I'll try, I'll try to learn some Premier League for you if you
• 1:10:40
  think we need to talk about it, but we might have to with with.
• 1:10:44
  Everything that's going on with basketball is like nothing to
• 1:10:47
  talk about. Well, there's so much drama
• 1:10:49
  with. These Divas in the NBA, they
• 1:10:51
  like to keep us busy, you know? Definitely Divas all right.
• 1:10:55
  Ladies and gentlemen, concrete, concrete jungle carousel.
• 1:11:02
  All right. We're going to start.
• 1:11:04
  This this is going to be a new regular segment.
• 1:11:06
  We do guys, whenever there isn't any major New York stories,
• 1:11:10
  we're going to have like a New York, like wrap it up, talk
• 1:11:14
  about everything in New York segment we're calling the
• 1:11:16
  concrete jungle carousel. So here we go.
• 1:11:19
  We're going to start it off and we're going to move it into the
• 1:11:22
  first topic of it, which is basketball.
• 1:11:24
  We'll start with the Knicks and Nets.
• 1:11:26
  The Knicks, they just picked up somebody.
• 1:11:30
  The Spurs had just released Jeremy Sochan and was bought out
• 1:11:37
  and he's expected to sign with the Knicks one eligible.
• 1:11:39
  He's 6822 years old. The Spurs have a lot of young
• 1:11:43
  talent. He wasn't getting any reps.
• 1:11:45
  He's basically at the end of his rookie contract type of a deal.
• 1:11:48
  He gets to try try to pick it up with the Knicks.
• 1:11:52
  I feel like there's a place for him in that rotation.
• 1:11:55
  I I love the move. Because one, he's a great
• 1:11:58
  rebounder, he's a great defender and he's going to put a lot of
• 1:12:01
  pressure and he's another guy, he's another Josh Hart.
• 1:12:03
  He's going to go up for rebounds.
• 1:12:04
  He's going to be aggressive. And that's what they did when
• 1:12:07
  they brought in Jose Alvarado and and they brought him.
• 1:12:10
  They brought this guy. Now they're bringing this guy
• 1:12:12
  in. They're going to give you that,
• 1:12:14
  that grit that the Knicks have had problems all season having
• 1:12:17
  these guys. And I'm not saying that some of
• 1:12:20
  the guys that are OG Anobi and but OG Anobi isn't grit, doesn't
• 1:12:24
  have grit or Mikhail Bridges doesn't have grit.
• 1:12:27
  But there are guys like Carl Anthony Towns or even Jalen
• 1:12:29
  Brunson. They don't play defense.
• 1:12:31
  They're offensive type of players.
• 1:12:33
  And when you bring in Jose Alvarado or you bring in a guy
• 1:12:36
  like Ocean, these are the guys that are going to be able to
• 1:12:39
  defend and they're going to be able to to put pressure on the
• 1:12:41
  best offensive players on the opposing teams.
• 1:12:44
  Yeah, 6 foot 8. Really good long defender, good
• 1:12:47
  versatile defender. Could play both the two and the
• 1:12:49
  three. Maybe in a smaller bench lineup
• 1:12:51
  with the four. Could could work in certain
• 1:12:53
  matchups and his offensive game was just bit bad this year, but
• 1:12:56
  was 11 points per game. It's pretty solid.
• 1:12:58
  Not as much 3 point shooter, but decent inside shooter that it
• 1:13:02
  could give a little bit as well. Maybe as a second or third bench
• 1:13:05
  option on the offensive side if he needs to do it.
• 1:13:08
  And I think Mike Brown's going to make that kind of thing work
• 1:13:10
  because he actually plays as younger guys.
• 1:13:12
  He's still very young, 22 years old.
• 1:13:13
  Definitely someone they can bring back on a shorter deal as
• 1:13:15
  well, even after this year before we move away.
• 1:13:18
  From the Knicks we got. To talk about Alvarado a little
• 1:13:20
  bit more, this guy just went eight for 13 from the field.
• 1:13:25
  All thirteen of those shots were three pointers.
• 1:13:28
  He ended up putting up 26 points.
• 1:13:30
  He had five steals. They call him Grand Theft
• 1:13:33
  Alvarado for a reason. There was 1 possession arrow.
• 1:13:36
  He took a shot, he bricked it. They get the rebound.
• 1:13:40
  He steals the ball at half court, gets another shot,
• 1:13:43
  doesn't get it again, steals it again at half court and instead
• 1:13:47
  of shooting, gets the assist on a three-point in the corner.
• 1:13:51
  This guy's a dog. This guy's awesome.
• 1:13:54
  And he said that he's spending the All Star break in the lab
• 1:13:57
  with Mike Brown. He's from Brooklyn native.
• 1:14:00
  I mean, pump this into my veins, man.
• 1:14:02
  This is the best thing you can get at the trade deadline.
• 1:14:04
  He grew. He grew up a New York.
• 1:14:06
  Knick fan. He grew up around Madison Square
• 1:14:08
  Garden. This was the place he wanted to
• 1:14:10
  play for. There was no other team he
• 1:14:12
  wanted to go to. And now he has the opportunity
• 1:14:14
  to play for the colors that he always grew up wanting to play
• 1:14:18
  for and at MSG and from all the fans.
• 1:14:21
  He's a hometown kid. His family goes to the games.
• 1:14:25
  And you could see the aggressive nature, the the speed that he
• 1:14:28
  puts on the court, on the basketball court.
• 1:14:30
  He plays that Mike Brown type of offense up and down the court.
• 1:14:34
  He was the perfect match, the perfect fit to the what the New
• 1:14:38
  York Knicks were looking for defensively.
• 1:14:41
  The problem last year against guys like Tyrese Halliburton is
• 1:14:44
  they didn't have a guy that can defend him, get up onto him and
• 1:14:47
  make him force him to do things he was uncomfortable to do.
• 1:14:50
  Now they have they have that guy and they have a player option
• 1:14:52
  next year. I expect a Jose Alvarado to be a
• 1:14:56
  Knick for a very, very long time.
• 1:14:58
  He's still fairly young. I I love the kid and and he's
• 1:15:01
  what you want as a New York Knicks fan.
• 1:15:04
  He's he's not that great. He's got everything you want as
• 1:15:07
  a New York basketball fan. So I it was a slam dunk for Leon
• 1:15:10
  Rose and another absolute slam dunk home run Grand Slam for
• 1:15:16
  that executive bunch of Leon Rose and worldwide West.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah, you also have a defensive lineup towards.
• 1:15:20
  The end of the game games, that really could work when, if
• 1:15:23
  you're up by 10 or something, you could really just focus on
• 1:15:25
  that, give Brunson some rest. Even then when you could put
• 1:15:28
  when McBride comes back in the playoffs, you could put him
• 1:15:31
  there at the 1. You could put Soch on then at
• 1:15:32
  the 2 with with OG Anobi at the four and Mitchell Robinson 3 and
• 1:15:36
  Robinson at the five. Right.
• 1:15:37
  You have that kind of thing for like a defensive game ending up
• 1:15:40
  by 12 or 3 minutes to go line up in the playoffs.
• 1:15:43
  I love it. That's what it is.
• 1:15:44
  It's a. Playoff lineup.
• 1:15:45
  That's what we haven't had with Tibbs.
• 1:15:47
  Tibbs just had one lineup, you know, I mean, like, that's just
• 1:15:50
  how it was. Now we have a mix and match for
• 1:15:53
  whatever you throw at us. We've got an answer for you.
• 1:15:56
  I love it. Let's move on to hockey.
• 1:15:58
  Obviously hockey's at the break right now.
• 1:16:01
  Olympic hockey break. There was a trade a couple of
• 1:16:02
  weeks ago between the Islanders and Devils.
• 1:16:04
  Andre Plot going to the Islanders, obviously a long time
• 1:16:08
  player. Devils before that.
• 1:16:11
  I believe he was with the general manager Darsh.
• 1:16:14
  And Tampa? Right, so he was real good in
• 1:16:18
  Tampa. He's a veteran, 34 years old.
• 1:16:22
  Makes sense to fill out the line off line up.
• 1:16:24
  Also traded for Siplakov, the Devils in return.
• 1:16:29
  Devils are taking all reclamation projects at this
• 1:16:32
  point of the season. It was a slam dunk.
• 1:16:34
  For the New York Islanders, first of all, he won a Stanley
• 1:16:36
  Cup. He has an understanding how how
• 1:16:39
  to lead and, and Darsh was a guy that wants to bring his own guys
• 1:16:43
  in because of the the type of GM he wants to be there with the
• 1:16:48
  New York Islanders and and Palat is a is a guy that could put the
• 1:16:51
  puck in the net. He is he scored a lot of goals
• 1:16:54
  in the playoffs over the years with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
• 1:16:57
  They're trying to build a course of talent and and veteran
• 1:17:00
  players that can give them that boost that they're going to need
• 1:17:03
  if they make that playoff run. I think it was a slam dunk for
• 1:17:06
  the Islanders and they really didn't give up anything for him.
• 1:17:08
  So actually for the the the trades that the Islanders made,
• 1:17:12
  they got more draft picks back. I think they got a third round
• 1:17:15
  draft pick back for Palat and they get they got Pelot, who
• 1:17:19
  scored more goals than the kid that they traded Max.
• 1:17:22
  I forget his last Tavolo. So I think it was a slam dunk
• 1:17:25
  for the New York Island. Yeah, Pelot is even when.
• 1:17:28
  He was like a third line player on the on the Lightning in the
• 1:17:30
  playoffs for their first. Their first stretch of that was
• 1:17:33
  one of their best playoff scorers.
• 1:17:35
  There was a reason they kept him for a while when they had to get
• 1:17:37
  rid of Calorin and Tyler Johnson and from that their kid line at
• 1:17:41
  the time. So he has the playoff experience
• 1:17:43
  that a definitely team like the Islanders could use with a very
• 1:17:45
  young team overall. And again, we've seen obviously
• 1:17:48
  bars Allen Horvat have been an experience in the playoffs.
• 1:17:50
  But this is this is a two and three group that probably is
• 1:17:53
  care about. He was a he was a big.
• 1:17:55
  Part of that Stanley Cup championship team.
• 1:17:57
  I think he if I'm not mistaken, he scored like nine goals on
• 1:18:00
  that run. He he could score goals in the
• 1:18:02
  playoffs. And I think that's the way Darsh
• 1:18:04
  is is looking at it. If you if you make that playoff
• 1:18:07
  run, you need a guy that's been in those situations and can help
• 1:18:10
  you win. And I think Pelat is that kind
• 1:18:12
  of guy. It makes a lot of sense.
• 1:18:13
  I I. Think that's a great addition.
• 1:18:15
  I was living in Tampa. I got to see the end of that run
• 1:18:19
  by that team. That was an awesome team.
• 1:18:20
  He was a big part of it. The Rangers are clearly going to
• 1:18:25
  sell off Vincent Trochek before the trade deadline after the
• 1:18:29
  roster freeze of the Olympics. Right now we're just hearing who
• 1:18:33
  the suitors are. Probably smart that they waited
• 1:18:35
  till after the deadline. No reason to wait on Pinnarin.
• 1:18:38
  Get him out of town. They weren't going to get a ton
• 1:18:40
  for him anyway, but they should get a lot more for Trochek
• 1:18:44
  contracts. More manageable.
• 1:18:46
  I think he's under control as well for an extra year.
• 1:18:50
  Speedy, correct me if I'm wrong about that.
• 1:18:51
  Three more years after this so. He had, so they had.
• 1:18:53
  So this is like. A real deal and he is a good
• 1:18:56
  face off man in the middle. He's a two way player.
• 1:19:00
  I love watching him play. I am going to hate to see him
• 1:19:03
  go, but what can they get from him and the three teams?
• 1:19:06
  I'm hearing the top three are the Mammoth, the Red Wings, and
• 1:19:12
  I'm hearing the Wild and Billy Guerin.
• 1:19:15
  I I could see them getting a. Top six player for a Trochek and
• 1:19:19
  and maybe a third round draft pick.
• 1:19:21
  They're going to get a lot back for him.
• 1:19:22
  First of all, he's a two way player.
• 1:19:23
  He's a great face off guy and he's a he's he's a guy that you
• 1:19:27
  could just put right into your offense and your defense, no
• 1:19:30
  matter where he goes. The Mammoths, any one of those
• 1:19:32
  teams, Minnesota would be the best fit because they're a
• 1:19:35
  contender. He's been a part of those kind
• 1:19:38
  of teams with the Carolina Hurricanes.
• 1:19:40
  I I could see see I could see the the somebody like that, the
• 1:19:44
  Minnesota, Minnesota team Wild going to make a move for him
• 1:19:47
  because they got a lot of lot of players, a lot of talent over
• 1:19:50
  there and their farm system is very strong.
• 1:19:52
  They're going to get a lot back for Trojic.
• 1:19:54
  One, he's still fairly young 2. He's a great two way player.
• 1:19:57
  He's the to me, out of all the guys that they were that are up
• 1:20:01
  to trade, he's the best one because he could do the most out
• 1:20:04
  of all the players that are available.
• 1:20:06
  Yeah, we were talking about having a good playoff.
• 1:20:08
  Identity and Minnesota's lacked that for a while despite having
• 1:20:10
  good talent on that team. I think somebody like Trochek,
• 1:20:14
  who not only wins face off but hits very well for a center as
• 1:20:16
  well would be perfect for them. And Fish, I've heard that
• 1:20:18
  they've been eyeing him for like 2 months now.
• 1:20:20
  They've been just waiting for the Rangers to kind of think
• 1:20:23
  that they're not there because the Rangers were kind of stuck
• 1:20:25
  in mediocrity even in December and Minnesota always liked it.
• 1:20:27
  And then Detroit, they have a lot of ex Rangers they've traded
• 1:20:29
  with. They've either signed or traded
• 1:20:31
  with them over the years too. So that wouldn't surprise me
• 1:20:33
  either. They're another young team on
• 1:20:34
  the rise. They were looking to make their
• 1:20:36
  mark finally and I think now maybe they feel like they have a
• 1:20:39
  core to do that. But I agree, Minnesota kind of
• 1:20:41
  makes that perfect sense because they have not won a playoff
• 1:20:44
  series. It's like having many good young
• 1:20:45
  cores. Since Patrick Wok coached the
• 1:20:47
  Colorado Avalanche of 2013, Minnesota beat them as a wild
• 1:20:50
  card team. That's the last time they won a
• 1:20:51
  playoff series with a lot of good players.
• 1:20:53
  The only thing I want for the Rangers?
• 1:20:55
  If they're going to do this rebuild is build up the middle.
• 1:20:58
  Please, please get center men who that are young that can they
• 1:21:02
  can win face. They've been rebuilding.
• 1:21:04
  They've been rebuilding since. 1994 and I'm doing it stupid.
• 1:21:08
  They get winger after. Winger, you know, looking for a
• 1:21:10
  big contract and and so every time so would.
• 1:21:13
  You rather Chris jury make that that decision making over the
• 1:21:18
  next couple of years or do you bring in another GM that
• 1:21:20
  actually or a young GM that actually knows what he's doing
• 1:21:24
  and has been successful as an assistant GM or working at with
• 1:21:28
  the executives for other organizations.
• 1:21:30
  Look what the Islanders did. They they fire Lou La Morello
• 1:21:33
  because he just couldn't cut it anymore.
• 1:21:35
  Too old and they brought in Darsh and there were a lot of
• 1:21:38
  questions on some of the guys that they were going to bring
• 1:21:40
  in, especially some of these suitors that they were looking
• 1:21:43
  at. They didn't.
• 1:21:44
  The Islanders made the right choice.
• 1:21:45
  They brought in a younger guy that's never had the opportunity
• 1:21:48
  to build a team that has one with another organization for a
• 1:21:52
  significant amount of time. I think that's where the Rangers
• 1:21:55
  go. Chris Jury is not the guy.
• 1:21:57
  Chris Jury is not going to build this team and it's a contender
• 1:22:00
  to a contender team. If you look at what he's done in
• 1:22:02
  the last five years, he's hired coaches, he's fired coaches, and
• 1:22:06
  he just hasn't put this team and this organization in the right
• 1:22:09
  place. As a matter of fact, he's giving
• 1:22:11
  these guys no trade clause is and they're harder to move as we
• 1:22:15
  are seeing right in front of our eyes.
• 1:22:17
  You look what they trade it. Well, look what they got for
• 1:22:19
  Panarin. You could say whatever you want.
• 1:22:21
  They got nothing for one of the best players in the league.
• 1:22:24
  And I I know he's 34, but he's one of the best offensive
• 1:22:26
  players still in the league. He has what, 57 points going
• 1:22:29
  into the All Star break? I mean, I'm sorry, the Olympic
• 1:22:32
  break. I mean, the guy's going to get
• 1:22:34
  closer to 100 points than you think.
• 1:22:36
  And the Rangers got nothing for him and you're going to trust
• 1:22:39
  Chris Drury to move Trojic and get a lot back from I I think
• 1:22:43
  that to me, it's just an absolute debacle.
• 1:22:45
  And This is why I think James Dolan is one of the dumbest
• 1:22:49
  owners in professional sports. You mentioned it too like the
• 1:22:51
  The way. You win in hockey, no matter
• 1:22:53
  like where you're start. Our players lie.
• 1:22:54
  You need to have three good three depth of centers.
• 1:22:57
  Like every team that's won the Stanley Cup I think in the last
• 1:23:00
  15 years have had that to some capacity.
• 1:23:02
  Yeah, yes, you need defensive depth too.
• 1:23:04
  Obviously, you see Vegas and Saint Louis teams like that, but
• 1:23:06
  you have other teams like Pittsburgh.
• 1:23:08
  Those are a great defensive depth.
• 1:23:09
  I could still win cops, goalies. You could just have random guys
• 1:23:11
  break out for them. And look at Vegas, like Aiden
• 1:23:13
  Hill came out of nowhere. They had four different goalies
• 1:23:15
  starting the playoffs. Like, do you trust Chris Drury?
• 1:23:18
  I. Must say, Chris, do you trust?
• 1:23:19
  Him if you were running. This organization, you own, this
• 1:23:22
  team, do you go into the offseason with a rebuild
• 1:23:25
  offseason and trust that Chris Drury is going to make the right
• 1:23:28
  Nope decision? I'm not making trusted Chris
• 1:23:30
  Drury. I'm also not trusting the
• 1:23:31
  Rangers prospect development either.
• 1:23:32
  That's the other problem they have to solve right now, whether
• 1:23:34
  it's their assistant coaches, the scouting staff, whoever is
• 1:23:37
  involved in that has to go too because there's too many bad
• 1:23:39
  prospects that have good and when you bring in AGM.
• 1:23:43
  The GM hires his own scouting, his own people, and Chris Drury
• 1:23:47
  needs to go just as much as his scouts and the decision makers
• 1:23:51
  behind the scenes because they have failed this, don't you
• 1:23:55
  think? Chris Drury just.
• 1:23:56
  Like, knows how to kiss Dolan's ass better than anybody.
• 1:24:00
  Like, he survived like, that entire situation with John
• 1:24:03
  Davidson earlier on. Like, they kept him instead of
• 1:24:06
  those guys. What makes you think, you know,
• 1:24:08
  if he was kind of playing to the boss a little bit, you know,
• 1:24:10
  double dealing, trying to get the job for himself, gets the
• 1:24:13
  job for himself. I don't know.
• 1:24:14
  What do you think? He's like a big, you know, sure
• 1:24:18
  shots Blues fan, You know, like going to see Dolan and his band
• 1:24:22
  out on the island, you know, up in the North Shore, you know,
• 1:24:26
  see him just, you know, keep a beat.
• 1:24:28
  Let's sing some songs. I I personally.
• 1:24:31
  When I grew up as a hockey player, I knew the Drury family
• 1:24:34
  and I knew Chris Drury. He wasn't a likable person.
• 1:24:37
  I didn't like his father. I didn't like his cocky, you
• 1:24:40
  know, personality. He thought he could play
• 1:24:43
  professional baseball just as much as he played professional
• 1:24:45
  hockey. He was very conceited and I
• 1:24:48
  think that's the same type of person, the same type of GM he
• 1:24:51
  is right now for the New York Rangers as an executive.
• 1:24:54
  I don't think he knows what he's doing.
• 1:24:55
  I don't know if I don't think he knows how to build an
• 1:24:57
  organization in the right state. He has brought in Peter
• 1:25:01
  Laviolette, who won a Stanley Cup, who's one of the greatest
• 1:25:04
  coaches of of this time and one of the greatest coach, top 10
• 1:25:07
  greatest coaches of all time. And then you bring in a guy like
• 1:25:11
  Sullivan, who's also a very consistent, very popular head
• 1:25:15
  coach in the NHL. That's once 2 Stanley Scott, 2
• 1:25:18
  Stanley Cups with the Pittsburgh Penguins and very successful and
• 1:25:21
  again, the coach of the United States hockey team.
• 1:25:24
  So, you know, he's, he's a very successful, you know,
• 1:25:27
  personality behind the bench. And I don't know how long he's
• 1:25:30
  going to be cut, you know, safe at his position.
• 1:25:33
  Because if you, if you trust Chris Drury, you know that it's
• 1:25:37
  not going to last more than two or three years with that coach
• 1:25:39
  if they're not winning. So they're going to fire
• 1:25:41
  Sullivan, who is there with the Pittsburgh Penguins for how
• 1:25:44
  long? Over 10 years with Sidney Crosby
• 1:25:46
  and Malkin. That's a problem when you know
• 1:25:49
  that a coach can't stay there more than two or three years,
• 1:25:52
  that there's something going on with the executives and GM up on
• 1:25:56
  top, and they're always going to make the coach the scapegoat.
• 1:25:58
  Especially for ones that don't develop the young players like
• 1:26:00
  Galan had trouble doing for a while.
• 1:26:02
  But Mike Sullivan, actually, it's been pretty, pretty good.
• 1:26:04
  Not great, but pretty good with the younger players.
• 1:26:06
  It's the veteran players that have all fallen off badly this
• 1:26:08
  year and that's why they're going to have to trade.
• 1:26:10
  Has he been good with the younger players LA?
• 1:26:11
  Fenier has been holding not la fenier.
• 1:26:13
  I'm the I'm talking about like. The Matthew Robertson's and Will
• 1:26:16
  Cooley, guys like that. The second tier prospects.
• 1:26:18
  La Fenier I think is busted as it is already.
• 1:26:20
  I think there's no coach to save him right now.
• 1:26:22
  He had his chance I think two years ago, three years ago was
• 1:26:25
  the best chance to resurrect his career and look at the 20 2014
• 1:26:29
  fish like they finally get the center depth that can finally
• 1:26:31
  win face off. So they're not going to even
• 1:26:32
  shrink. So they're very fluky president
• 1:26:34
  trophy team. They were definitely fluky, but
• 1:26:36
  you? Know a couple of years ago, LA
• 1:26:37
  for a year was just like everywhere.
• 1:26:39
  He was hustling, he was making plays at the net, and he just
• 1:26:42
  stopped doing that Pewter la violette.
• 1:26:45
  Pewter la violette and even Capococka was playing under
• 1:26:48
  Pewter la violette very, very well.
• 1:26:50
  And what, how long did Pewter La Violette stay hey with the New
• 1:26:54
  York Rangers? What was it?
• 1:26:55
  A year and a half and they found locker room debacle.
• 1:26:58
  And Oh yeah, yeah, because he's a scapegoat because of the
• 1:27:00
  veteran players. Panarin.
• 1:27:01
  Couldn't control his his own attitude.
• 1:27:04
  You had guys like Crider who's a crybaby and and by the way, I
• 1:27:08
  told the beef on all the Ranger fans when Crider scored 52 goals
• 1:27:11
  that season. They should trade him in the
• 1:27:13
  offseason. No, we can't trade A50 goal
• 1:27:15
  scorer. He's the heart and soul of this
• 1:27:17
  team. Now he's playing with the the
• 1:27:19
  Anaheim Ducks and he's playing pretty well.
• 1:27:21
  The Anaheim Ducks is playing pretty well.
• 1:27:23
  That whole organization has a, you know, has good leadership
• 1:27:27
  and understands what it takes to win with veterans and young
• 1:27:31
  players. The Rangers, no matter how young
• 1:27:33
  they get and how many veterans they have, if the guy up top
• 1:27:36
  doesn't know what he's doing, they're never going to succeed.
• 1:27:39
  All right, let's move on to baseball.
• 1:27:41
  It's it's been a silence mostly offseason for the Yankees.
• 1:27:46
  You know that the the pitching staff, you know you're getting
• 1:27:48
  guys back, but they're not ready.
• 1:27:51
  And on top of that, today we found out that last year's
• 1:27:55
  breakthrough, a performer in the playoffs, Cam Schlittler has
• 1:27:59
  tweaked his back. Now he's they don't expect him
• 1:28:01
  to be out for a while, but the depth is really worrisome.
• 1:28:05
  You know, Garrett Cole and Clark Schmidt are probably not coming
• 1:28:08
  back till closer to the All Star break after going through the
• 1:28:11
  Tommy John and recovery from it. Carlos Rodon had offseason
• 1:28:16
  surgery. What was it, bone spurs or
• 1:28:17
  something like that? Speedy.
• 1:28:20
  Something along those. Lines to.
• 1:28:21
  Clean up some stuff. So he's going to be out for
• 1:28:23
  probably the first month or so as well.
• 1:28:26
  So that's three guys that you're expecting in the rotation that
• 1:28:30
  you're not seeing right away now.
• 1:28:31
  Schlittler's banged up, so now you're already going deep into
• 1:28:36
  it. Kind of makes you feel like
• 1:28:38
  maybe you should have added a little bit more depth this
• 1:28:40
  offseason. I don't think the Yankees.
• 1:28:43
  Going into the season, are going to worry about their pitching
• 1:28:45
  staff. It's going to.
• 1:28:46
  It's a long season. It's 162 games as expected and
• 1:28:51
  if we had job on the show right now, he'd probably say the same
• 1:28:54
  thing. Preseason players are going to
• 1:28:57
  go down and all the way into the beginning of the season.
• 1:29:00
  I expect by June the Yankees will be 100% healthy.
• 1:29:03
  They got to compete early into the season.
• 1:29:05
  They might have to, you know, scrap in certain games and put
• 1:29:09
  up, you know, a lot of runs because they're pitching staff
• 1:29:12
  is not as has doesn't have as much depth as they would have
• 1:29:17
  with the talent that they have in the beginning of the season.
• 1:29:19
  If was healthy and Rodan was healthy and Schlittler was
• 1:29:22
  healthy, I think the Yankees are going to be fine.
• 1:29:24
  They added Weathers. Weathers will be put in that
• 1:29:26
  rotation right now. And I I think that as we move
• 1:29:30
  forward going into spring training, we're going to see
• 1:29:32
  what the Yankees have in their farm system.
• 1:29:34
  They have two young pitchers that one of them, they think
• 1:29:37
  that could be called up at some point this year that they can
• 1:29:40
  put in the bullpen before he becomes a starter.
• 1:29:43
  And they've got guys like Spencer Jones.
• 1:29:45
  We got to see what he could do in spring training.
• 1:29:48
  He looked pretty good in spring training last year.
• 1:29:50
  He was up and down in AAA last year.
• 1:29:53
  They and again, I want to see more of Dominguez.
• 1:29:55
  I want to see some of these these guys that have not fully
• 1:29:58
  developed with the the Yankees over the last couple of years.
• 1:30:01
  I want to see them come out strong early in the season where
• 1:30:05
  if the Yankees decide that these guys are going to be the
• 1:30:08
  backbone of the team or trade pieces in the long run, they
• 1:30:11
  could get a lot out of them. Yeah, you don't want if you're
• 1:30:14
  no. Matter what scenario for the
• 1:30:15
  Yankees you don't want to have to rush Schwitler back at any
• 1:30:17
  cost because yet the Yankees have a enough I think between
• 1:30:20
  organizational and hybrid starter relievers types to make
• 1:30:24
  it work creatively in the beginning of the season until
• 1:30:26
  Rodon comes back. You don't want to have to rush
• 1:30:28
  Schlittler if he's really not up to it because we've seen the
• 1:30:31
  Yankees do this a lot. They when they tried to, when
• 1:30:33
  they signed Montes, they traded for Montes.
• 1:30:34
  They did the same thing. He pitched one game with the
• 1:30:36
  Yankees and then he was hurt the rest of the year.
• 1:30:37
  You Severino had all those injury issues at the beginning
• 1:30:39
  of his career. So you don't want to have to do
• 1:30:41
  that kind of thing with a young player.
• 1:30:43
  I will say this for the. Yankee fans out there throwing
• 1:30:46
  Volpe onto the bus. I think you got to give Volpe
• 1:30:50
  another full season, see how he stays healthy.
• 1:30:53
  Maybe he wasn't wasn't 100%. They said he had shoulder
• 1:30:56
  problems all throughout the season.
• 1:30:58
  He did have shoulder surgery in the offseason.
• 1:31:00
  Maybe that was the reason why he couldn't throw the ball to 1st
• 1:31:03
  and it had problems with his woes defensively.
• 1:31:06
  I think he's much better offensively than he's been over
• 1:31:09
  the last two years. If he can hit 240 or 250 and
• 1:31:12
  give you 25 home runs and about 60 to 70 RBIs as shortstop,
• 1:31:17
  you're getting a lot out of the kid.
• 1:31:19
  I I still think he is going to be a part of the future of this
• 1:31:23
  New York Yankee team, either as a shortstop or a second baseman.
• 1:31:28
  I do not believe Jazz Chisholm will be there at the end of this
• 1:31:31
  season. Yeah, and that's the other thing
• 1:31:32
  too. You bring up the offense and
• 1:31:33
  keep. The abilities that the Yankees
• 1:31:34
  could have when it comes to some of their young players finally
• 1:31:37
  breaking out if they can all do it.
• 1:31:38
  Not maybe not all at once per SE, but Wells had spurts.
• 1:31:42
  Rice had spurts last year. If Volpe could have the spurts
• 1:31:44
  like he did at the end of the season when he started to play
• 1:31:46
  well, that's enough for they could be able to weather the
• 1:31:48
  storm with some of those back end pitchers to make it work.
• 1:31:50
  Fish, you mentioned Weathers too.
• 1:31:51
  Then you also got Heal and Warren like those are enough of
• 1:31:54
  capable that still a lot of a lot of teams don't have right
• 1:31:56
  now in the American League that they can still at least weather
• 1:31:59
  the storm and watch out for Clark Schmidt.
• 1:32:01
  I I think Schmidt looked really, really good, good early last
• 1:32:04
  season and then he got hurt and he was out for the rest of the
• 1:32:06
  season. This kid has a tremendous amount
• 1:32:09
  of pitching, you know, pitch. He could throw curveballs and
• 1:32:12
  sliders and he's got a great fastball, 4 seam and two seam
• 1:32:16
  fastball. He's got a ton of pitches and,
• 1:32:19
  and this guy when he figures things out, I think he could be
• 1:32:22
  a very dominant pitcher for the New York Yankees.
• 1:32:24
  He has, he has the stuff to be 1/3 starter on this roster
• 1:32:29
  really, when you look at Schlittler and Cole and even
• 1:32:32
  Freed. So I he's got that kind of
• 1:32:35
  talent. I, I think the Yankees going to
• 1:32:36
  be fine. I, I do believe the Yankees
• 1:32:39
  should have added a little bit more depth into free agency.
• 1:32:41
  I think Fish is right about that.
• 1:32:44
  But they added Weathers and Weathers is a guy you could put
• 1:32:47
  in the rotation until these guys come back and then you can move
• 1:32:49
  them in the bullpen. Yeah.
• 1:32:51
  You know, you just, you just worry.
• 1:32:52
  About them falling behind the 8 ball a little too much in the
• 1:32:55
  first month, month and a half of the season before they get some
• 1:32:58
  of this step back. They never do fish.
• 1:33:00
  They never. Do I know with the injuries,
• 1:33:01
  they usually start hot, right? They usually start hot.
• 1:33:04
  And then it's something more like Midsummer, yeah, kind of
• 1:33:06
  the Aaron Boone soon over there. They get into a cold spell where
• 1:33:09
  they. Lose 12 out of 15 games and
• 1:33:11
  everybody like the Yankees are in trouble.
• 1:33:14
  The rotation is not as good as everybody thought they were or
• 1:33:16
  the bullpen looks worn out. It's usually right after the All
• 1:33:20
  Star break where the Yankees go on this, this cold spell of like
• 1:33:23
  12 out of 15 games and they look really, really bad.
• 1:33:26
  And, and then they pick it up, maybe because of injury or maybe
• 1:33:30
  because they just, they thought that they were just going to run
• 1:33:32
  away with the division like they did last year.
• 1:33:34
  And then the Blue Jays got back into it and then eventually beat
• 1:33:38
  the Yankees out and winning the division and winning the
• 1:33:40
  American League. So I, I'm again, I'm not worried
• 1:33:44
  about the Yankees. I expect the Yankees to win 95
• 1:33:46
  to 96 games this year. They still have a tremendous
• 1:33:49
  amount of talent. And, and I really think it all
• 1:33:51
  depends on Aaron Judge's health. If Aaron Judge is healthy,
• 1:33:55
  they're going to be able to compete.
• 1:33:56
  I I he's that good of a player. He changes everything when it
• 1:34:00
  comes to their when it comes to their line up.
• 1:34:03
  I think he adds that that power that you need and that offense
• 1:34:06
  that you need to win games, you know, a little X.
• 1:34:09
  Factor for the Yankees offense, you know, he didn't really get
• 1:34:12
  much out of him last year. He'd struck out a lot.
• 1:34:14
  But Ryan McMahon has been an All Star in this league.
• 1:34:16
  Well in the National League when he was with Colorado, obviously
• 1:34:19
  Coors Field aided a little bit, but that guy has got pop and
• 1:34:22
  that guy plays excellent as we saw excellent third base.
• 1:34:26
  So if they if they can get him to fix his swing in a little
• 1:34:29
  bit. I mean this could be like
• 1:34:31
  another Brochus type story with this guy.
• 1:34:34
  Probably is that kind of defense problem with him is just like
• 1:34:37
  Todd. Hilton, he played in Colorado
• 1:34:40
  and Todd Hilton was good when he left Colorado, but not as good.
• 1:34:45
  Everybody knows in Colorado there's you get more pop,
• 1:34:48
  There's no you're elevated. There's more home runs that go
• 1:34:51
  out of the stadium. So I, I don't, I'm not saying
• 1:34:55
  McMahon can't be good for the Yankees.
• 1:34:57
  He's a pretty good defender, but he's a guy that the Yankees have
• 1:35:00
  reached on and and again, the Yankees like making trades with
• 1:35:03
  Colorado over the years. If you look at what Brian
• 1:35:05
  Cashman likes to do, it's it's usually Colorado and Pittsburgh
• 1:35:09
  are the two teams that he likes to trade with.
• 1:35:11
  All right, let's talk about. The other side of the city and
• 1:35:14
  the Mets, who just lost Francisco Lindor for 6:00 or so
• 1:35:18
  weeks with a broken hamate bone. And things happen in threes,
• 1:35:22
  Errol, because in within 24 hours, Francisco Lindor, Corbin
• 1:35:28
  Carroll is star player outfielder for the Diamondbacks
• 1:35:31
  and Jackson Holiday, second baseman for the Orioles, all
• 1:35:34
  broke their hamate bone, which is I guess happens when you grip
• 1:35:38
  the nub of the bat too tight. I don't know.
• 1:35:42
  It's just so weird that they have it.
• 1:35:44
  Apparently you have to to remove it in surgery and it's you have
• 1:35:48
  to heal and it just takes a while to get the power and
• 1:35:51
  strength back in your wrist. Not exactly what you want for
• 1:35:55
  your star shortstop to start a season, no.
• 1:35:58
  And and again. Lindor was going to play in the
• 1:36:01
  WBCII, Guess he's not playing in the WBCI know he was looking
• 1:36:05
  forward to doing that. And again, the New York Mets,
• 1:36:09
  it's 162 games. They're going into a season
• 1:36:13
  where they got a, they got to start strong, and they usually
• 1:36:15
  do. In the last couple of years, the
• 1:36:17
  Mets start up very, very, very strong and then they fall off as
• 1:36:20
  the season progressively moves forward.
• 1:36:22
  Last year they got very, very hot.
• 1:36:24
  I think they won 20 out of their their first like 30 games and
• 1:36:29
  they were playing great baseball.
• 1:36:30
  And then all of a sudden they got into a cold spell.
• 1:36:32
  And Carlo Mendoza, he might be on a hot seat early in the
• 1:36:36
  season if if he doesn't start off strong, they could fire
• 1:36:39
  Mendoza and and again the Mets have they spent a lot of money
• 1:36:42
  in the offseason. Once again, as Cohen, he was
• 1:36:46
  reaching, he brought in, you know, Devin and he brought in
• 1:36:49
  some pieces and this roster, you know, you, you put a guy that's
• 1:36:53
  ever played first base on first base.
• 1:36:56
  You put a guy that's never played third base on third base.
• 1:36:58
  This team is all scrambled. And really it's like a puzzle
• 1:37:02
  for the Mets. They're trying to connect the
• 1:37:03
  dots and hopefully they connect the right way.
• 1:37:06
  I don't know how it's going to work, but I I think they have
• 1:37:09
  enough pop in this lineup with some of the additions that they
• 1:37:11
  made that if Lindor's out for six to eight weeks, they'll be
• 1:37:14
  fine offensively. Yeah, I think they have enough.
• 1:37:16
  I think Lindor. It's the same thing I was doing
• 1:37:18
  with the Yankees. They just have to make sure that
• 1:37:20
  a guy that's been one of their most durable players that we've
• 1:37:23
  seen since he's come over here with the mats, you can't have
• 1:37:26
  him all of a sudden be an injury tailspin when you have all these
• 1:37:29
  other fragile question marks outside, probably outside of
• 1:37:31
  semi and like the rest of your team are a lot of fragile
• 1:37:34
  question marks in that lineup. Alvarez, obviously Bruschette,
• 1:37:37
  who they bring in. A lot of these guys just can't
• 1:37:39
  stay healthy. So they cannot make that same
• 1:37:40
  kind of mistake with Lindor. Now, obviously the question is
• 1:37:42
  all right, if you can't play, who plays shortstop and that's
• 1:37:45
  where the rotation will have to come in.
• 1:37:46
  But you have enough time to experiment.
• 1:37:48
  The problem with the Mets is they have guys.
• 1:37:49
  Playing out of position, they've never played these positions
• 1:37:52
  before in their careers and now you're shifting them now that
• 1:37:56
  you're a New York Mets. That is the problem.
• 1:37:58
  I don't think it has anything to do with Beau Bichette being
• 1:38:00
  injury prone or any of these guys.
• 1:38:02
  Alvarez. I think what bothers me if I was
• 1:38:05
  a Mets fan is how is this going to work?
• 1:38:08
  How is it, especially you're on the diamond and you for the last
• 1:38:13
  couple of years, your infield has been not good.
• 1:38:17
  And now you have guys like Beau Bichette, who has been a
• 1:38:19
  consistent defensively talented shortstop.
• 1:38:22
  Now you're moving to third base. Does he have the arm strength to
• 1:38:25
  get it to 1st? Is he, is it going to be like an
• 1:38:28
  Alex Rodriguez? And then you have a guy that has
• 1:38:31
  been a second baseman practically his whole career and
• 1:38:33
  you're moving him to what first base?
• 1:38:35
  He's never played first base. And I, I, I first base is one of
• 1:38:39
  the hardest positions to play on the field.
• 1:38:41
  So I don't know how that's going to work either, even going into
• 1:38:44
  the offseason knowing that that's the position you're going
• 1:38:47
  to play. So that's the problem.
• 1:38:48
  I don't think the Lendore problem is going to be that much
• 1:38:50
  of a problem because there's it's a long season.
• 1:38:53
  Lendore will be back probably around I I would say May.
• 1:38:57
  So it's just a start up of the season.
• 1:38:59
  You're missing the, you know, spring training and and and a
• 1:39:02
  quarter of, you know, probably all of April and then you're
• 1:39:04
  going to be back. So I don't think that's going to
• 1:39:06
  be the problem. The problem with the Mets is the
• 1:39:08
  corner, the corner positions, the first and third base
• 1:39:11
  position. How is that going to work?
• 1:39:13
  Yeah, that's why I'm saying you if.
• 1:39:15
  Even if Lendore is hurt for an extended period of time, at
• 1:39:19
  least try to lock into one philosophy, because again, it's
• 1:39:22
  going to be tough to tell if you're going to have enough of a
• 1:39:23
  sample to judge if one guy is going to be able to adapt to be
• 1:39:26
  comfortable with a different position.
• 1:39:27
  Don't you think Lindor would be? Better at third base than Beau
• 1:39:30
  Bichet? No, not don't move Lindor.
• 1:39:32
  No. I would say why he's a better he
• 1:39:34
  has a better one what I'm. Saying is lock into one.
• 1:39:36
  Way of thinking If Bichette's going to play third, let him
• 1:39:39
  play third. Let Polanco play shortstop as a
• 1:39:41
  substitute if you need to, let Simeon play shortstop if you
• 1:39:44
  need to lock into one. Philosophy don't get cute I
• 1:39:47
  think when trying to rotate everyone in short time unless it
• 1:39:49
  really doesn't work badly. Well, I think that you.
• 1:39:52
  Put the guy at third base that has the better arm.
• 1:39:55
  Lindor has a better arm. I would have shift Lindor if
• 1:39:58
  Lindor wanted to move to third base, to third base.
• 1:40:00
  If he's the captain of the team and the leader of the team,
• 1:40:03
  which everybody says he is, move the guy with the better arm at
• 1:40:06
  third base. Keep Beau Bouchette in the
• 1:40:08
  position that he feels more comfortable on because everybody
• 1:40:11
  says that Beau Bouchette might not have the arm strength to get
• 1:40:14
  that ball to first base as. Most third baseman's do have
• 1:40:18
  that arm strength so so Simeon is already going to be
• 1:40:20
  comfortable. Enough at 2nd where I think you
• 1:40:23
  want to leave him there at some point.
• 1:40:24
  That's why I'm saying look, get the Bachette third base
• 1:40:26
  experiment started. You can rotate from shortstop.
• 1:40:29
  Or if you want to try to experiment within the outfield
• 1:40:31
  like you like to do and put Louise, Robert and all these
• 1:40:34
  other guys elsewhere or Beatty, same kind of thing.
• 1:40:36
  If you're going to commit to keeping him, commit to one
• 1:40:38
  position. Beatty's a bench guy.
• 1:40:40
  He's not a *. I which is which is.
• 1:40:42
  Sucks because he started to come on really well last season and
• 1:40:45
  now they're really funneling his position away with overloading
• 1:40:48
  on too many infielders. Don't you think that's what
• 1:40:50
  they're? Going to do though, play Beatty
• 1:40:52
  and move Bichette to short until he comes back and probably put
• 1:40:54
  Semi in as the leadoff hitter. Yeah, Lindor, you know, I would
• 1:40:58
  imagine that works. They just got to hope Semi and
• 1:41:00
  doesn't suck like he sucked the last season and a half and that
• 1:41:03
  Bichette can hold up. You know, physically it's never
• 1:41:06
  going to happen. It's not going to happen as.
• 1:41:07
  Much if Bichette. Can't stay healthy.
• 1:41:08
  I think Bichette will also will later in the season start to DH
• 1:41:11
  more too if he doesn't find a position.
• 1:41:13
  I don't think Beau. Bichette has the arm strength to
• 1:41:15
  get that ball. The first base, Well, I'm more
• 1:41:17
  worried about his. Range.
• 1:41:19
  It's shortstop like his side to side range.
• 1:41:22
  That's why Lindor has to stay at short.
• 1:41:23
  No one else is going to be able to get the ball on the hole at
• 1:41:27
  the same level even. You know, the arm strength, the
• 1:41:29
  damned, you know, on something like that, it's more about like,
• 1:41:31
  can you get to the ball? That's why they always ripped on
• 1:41:33
  Jeter at the end of his career, because he didn't get to the
• 1:41:36
  ball. You know, it wasn't his arm
• 1:41:37
  strength. So what I would do is move
• 1:41:38
  Simeons. Who I think can play shortstop.
• 1:41:40
  Still, he's a great defender. Move him to shortstop, move
• 1:41:43
  Bobashette to second base and move Lindor to 3rd.
• 1:41:46
  That would make more sense. He has the best arm strength on
• 1:41:49
  this team and can could it really take up more room than
• 1:41:53
  any. And you need a third baseman
• 1:41:54
  that could defend with all that room.
• 1:41:56
  So I would have moved Lindor to third base.
• 1:41:59
  That would have made more sense. I would have tried to pitch that
• 1:42:02
  to Lindor than Beau Bichette. I I just don't agree with it.
• 1:42:05
  Don't agree with it. It's it's.
• 1:42:06
  Definitely. A weird one.
• 1:42:07
  The only other thing that was I thought we had to talk about is
• 1:42:11
  I guess city field, the dimensions, left field is easier
• 1:42:15
  to play in right field because they're moving Juan Soto to left
• 1:42:19
  field away from right field. Not that they have like a real
• 1:42:22
  replacement in right field. It's like Tyrone Taylor or MJ
• 1:42:26
  Melendez they got from the Royals.
• 1:42:28
  It's just like, I don't really understand that move.
• 1:42:32
  But apparently, you know, Juan Soto gets what he wants.
• 1:42:36
  He got all the money. He wants to play in left.
• 1:42:38
  He feels more comfortable with the quote, so he's playing in
• 1:42:41
  left. It could be Ronnie Mauricio too.
• 1:42:43
  And right. As well because they also think
• 1:42:45
  he could get shortstop reps as well.
• 1:42:46
  The only season. That I thought that Juan Soto
• 1:42:49
  played half decent in the outfield was with the Yankees.
• 1:42:52
  He did not look good last year. How many times did he make
• 1:42:55
  blooping mistakes out in the outfield?
• 1:42:58
  There were games that he made multiple mistakes in one game.
• 1:43:02
  I don't think it works. You need to be a really good
• 1:43:04
  defender in the open field. There's a lot of field to cover
• 1:43:08
  at left field, less in right field.
• 1:43:10
  It would have made more sense for him to stay in right field.
• 1:43:12
  But again, like you said, fish what Soda wants he gets all
• 1:43:17
  right, so. Let's move on to some football
• 1:43:21
  offseason stuff, starting with the New York Football Giants.
• 1:43:25
  Well, we're going to talk about their free agents in a second,
• 1:43:27
  but first let's talk about them hiring.
• 1:43:29
  You mentioned earlier Brian Callahan to be the quarterbacks
• 1:43:34
  coach and pass game coordinator, meaning he's the, I guess you
• 1:43:40
  call him the Lieutenant to the offensive coordinator, which is
• 1:43:43
  Charles Nagy, which makes Greg Roman long time.
• 1:43:47
  Jim Harbaugh. Guy way back in the 49ers days,
• 1:43:51
  obviously spent some time with John and in Baltimore with with
• 1:43:55
  Lamar, didn't work out so great, but he's going to run the run
• 1:44:00
  game aspect of it. So they have three guys with a
• 1:44:04
  wealth of experience, Errol, which is why some people are
• 1:44:08
  excited about this move. Others like yourself have
• 1:44:11
  pointed out it's a lot of, you know, chiefs, maybe you know too
• 1:44:15
  many chiefs, not enough Indians in the situation.
• 1:44:17
  It doesn't make any sense. I I.
• 1:44:19
  Like John Harbaugh. And I'm not saying that John
• 1:44:21
  Harbaugh won't be a successful coach with the New York Giants.
• 1:44:24
  He got paid a lot of money and now he's reaching.
• 1:44:27
  You bring in Matt Nagy. He wasn't a successful head
• 1:44:30
  coach with Chicago. He went back to Kansas City.
• 1:44:34
  He was not even calling the plays with Andy Reid.
• 1:44:36
  He was really Andy Reid's puppet.
• 1:44:38
  And Andy Reid said he should go to an organization where he has
• 1:44:41
  a chance to make the play. And now he's going to the Giants
• 1:44:43
  where you have Brian Callahan and you have Greg Roman as as
• 1:44:48
  guys that are going to help you make the play calls and and help
• 1:44:51
  you out with the throwing game and the running game.
• 1:44:53
  It doesn't make any sense. If you're going to bring in an
• 1:44:55
  offensive coordinator, you bring in one guy making the play
• 1:44:58
  calls. And again, this is very jet
• 1:45:00
  esque. This is what happened with
• 1:45:02
  Robert Sala. Robert Sala couldn't make a
• 1:45:04
  decision on who his offensive coordinator was, so he fired one
• 1:45:08
  and then brought in two. It makes no sense.
• 1:45:10
  Yeah, Callahan's like I get play calling duties.
• 1:45:12
  It just. Also at the same time, how much
• 1:45:13
  do you trust a Joe Burrow sample when Joe Burrow was already good
• 1:45:16
  as a Cincinnati quarterback coach and then he goes to
• 1:45:18
  Tennessee and can't develop Cam Ward to the same extent.
• 1:45:21
  Now he's going to get Brian Davil.
• 1:45:22
  Oddly enough, they're swapping, but still, he's not going to be
• 1:45:25
  play calling at all. Naggy.
• 1:45:26
  I don't like it all calling plays if they're going to trust
• 1:45:28
  him to do that. Do you like these moves, Speedy?
• 1:45:30
  You're a. Giant Callahan I'm indifferent
• 1:45:32
  on. Roman is fine but I don't want
• 1:45:34
  him calling plays either. Matt Naggy if you say Roman is.
• 1:45:37
  Fine. Why didn't anybody but The Jets
• 1:45:39
  interview him? Because he's too old.
• 1:45:41
  School of an offensive coordinator and I can't trust a
• 1:45:44
  one month sample of him trying to be pass happy at the
• 1:45:46
  beginning of the season with the Chargers.
• 1:45:47
  I don't want Greg Roman calling plays.
• 1:45:49
  But I am interested in his ability to, you know, scheme up
• 1:45:52
  some run plays. He was that's what they did with
• 1:45:55
  Lamar. They've had this like very
• 1:45:57
  unique offense because they said, oh, Lamar's not going to
• 1:45:59
  be able coming out of college to run a regular offense.
• 1:46:02
  So Roman made this kind of non traditional offense.
• 1:46:04
  Eventually teams caught on to it and they had to let him go.
• 1:46:07
  It didn't work. You know it after a while, and
• 1:46:09
  that's the end of NFL. You got to.
• 1:46:11
  You got to keep adapting. But Roman knows the run game.
• 1:46:14
  I'm excited about that potentially with Scatabo coming
• 1:46:17
  back. There's too many.
• 1:46:18
  There's too many voices. That are going to be in that
• 1:46:21
  offensive side of a room where there's going to, I have a
• 1:46:25
  feeling there's going to be backlash.
• 1:46:26
  There's going to be some kind of backlash with all three of these
• 1:46:29
  guys. I don't think it's going to work
• 1:46:32
  so. He was with the Lions, with
• 1:46:35
  Stafford, he was with Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow in Denver,
• 1:46:39
  Callahan. He was with Derek Carr in that
• 1:46:43
  good Raiders season they had before he broke his leg I
• 1:46:46
  believe. And he was the OC for Zach
• 1:46:50
  Taylor with Burrow, like you said, for four years before
• 1:46:52
  becoming the Titans head coach. Car samples, The one outline of
• 1:46:55
  them. Encouraged the most about
• 1:46:56
  because he's not like previous elite somewhere else, yeah.
• 1:46:59
  So look, we'll see. How it goes The Giants have some
• 1:47:02
  free agents and not a lot of money.
• 1:47:04
  Nope. Looks like Wandale Robinson's
• 1:47:06
  going to cash in on his big. You know, at least target share.
• 1:47:10
  Once neighbors went down this year, he got over 1000 yards.
• 1:47:13
  Someone's going to pay him. And don't be surprised if.
• 1:47:15
  It's the other team at the Meadowlands, the New York Jets.
• 1:47:18
  Because I, I could see The Jets, they're looking for another wide
• 1:47:21
  receiver to put on the other side of Garrett Wilson.
• 1:47:24
  Then you know, the weapon, weapon.
• 1:47:26
  And a guy like Wendell Robinson, you can move him in the slot.
• 1:47:29
  You could do a lot of things with him.
• 1:47:30
  So I wouldn't be surprised if it's like the New York Jets
• 1:47:33
  making that move and bring in Wandell Robertson as the other
• 1:47:36
  guy. Yeah.
• 1:47:38
  Then you got Jermaine. Aluminor and Cordell Flott both
• 1:47:41
  had good seasons. Cornerback Flot.
• 1:47:42
  He's probably the best corner on the Giants, but that's more by
• 1:47:45
  default than by He had a great season.
• 1:47:48
  He just was competent out there, which was a high bar to to
• 1:47:52
  match. I think for anybody else on the
• 1:47:54
  roster. Illuminor was pretty good right
• 1:47:56
  tackle. He's going to get paid.
• 1:47:58
  The Giants don't have money to pay him.
• 1:48:00
  They can't they can't give him like a double his salary.
• 1:48:02
  That's why I think the Giants, that's.
• 1:48:04
  Why? I think the Giants at #5 as much
• 1:48:06
  as everybody thinks they need a wide receiver, I go offensive
• 1:48:08
  tackle, yeah, they're going to look at.
• 1:48:10
  A couple of those guys, and we'll profile a lot of them as
• 1:48:13
  we get closer to the draft. The Jets, Well, how do you like
• 1:48:18
  Kyler Murray, Errol, because I'm seeing heavily rumored to The
• 1:48:24
  Jets. Kyler Murray right now this
• 1:48:27
  looks like he may be your bridge quarterback.
• 1:48:30
  He he would be a bridge quarterback.
• 1:48:32
  In a Frank Wright offense, I could see it working.
• 1:48:35
  It's only going to be this year and probably half of next year.
• 1:48:38
  They're going to draft a quarterback.
• 1:48:40
  The not this coming draft, but the next coming draft.
• 1:48:44
  I Kyla Murray is an interesting person.
• 1:48:46
  He's selfish, but a guy that has the ability to do a lot of
• 1:48:50
  things that you want a quarterback to do.
• 1:48:51
  He's in, he's great outside of the pocket and making throws.
• 1:48:54
  And like I said, Frank Wright is going to need those type of guys
• 1:48:57
  that are going to be able to make throws on the run.
• 1:48:59
  That's his style of offense. When he was successful in
• 1:49:02
  Indianapolis with Carson Wentz and, and I, I thought that
• 1:49:07
  Carlson Wentz was better when he was outside of the pocket and
• 1:49:10
  making throws on the outside of the pocket.
• 1:49:12
  I, I, I, Kyler Murray still has the ability to be a good
• 1:49:15
  quarterback in this league. It just it didn't work very well
• 1:49:19
  over there in Arizona. Maybe with a new roster and a
• 1:49:23
  new team and a bunch of fans screaming his name and hopefully
• 1:49:26
  him not screaming in a third person in front of the media and
• 1:49:30
  embarrassing himself, it might work out for a couple of years
• 1:49:33
  with the New York Jets. It's, it's interesting because,
• 1:49:35
  yeah. We liked him speedy, the off
• 1:49:38
  field. The off field stuff is
• 1:49:39
  definitely something that maybe you don't want to bring to a
• 1:49:41
  young roster. But I do agree with you on the
• 1:49:42
  right aspect. If you could get the efficiency
• 1:49:45
  mark that you got with the Carson Wentz with the Colts in
• 1:49:48
  2021 and in the with the Eagles the first half of his rookie
• 1:49:52
  season, his second-half wasn't great and then he started to
• 1:49:55
  play a lot of hero ball. But if you can get a combination
• 1:49:56
  of that, maybe you can have it. I'm not going to say great
• 1:49:58
  offense, but at least enough of a competent passing offense with
• 1:50:01
  him. The leadership, obviously all
• 1:50:02
  field stuff. He's known for using his legs.
• 1:50:05
  Outside of the pocket, The Jets like running the ball and if and
• 1:50:08
  I think that would make Breece Hall a little bit more happier
• 1:50:10
  if they franchise him and want to bring him back to have a
• 1:50:13
  quarterback that he believes is more competent than any of the
• 1:50:17
  quarterbacks The Jets have had over the last couple years.
• 1:50:20
  And remember, Kyla Murray a couple of years ago was not bad
• 1:50:23
  when it came to statistics, especially in fantasy.
• 1:50:26
  The guy has a tremendous ability of getting out of the pocket and
• 1:50:29
  making throws and he is pretty accurate.
• 1:50:31
  I just his problem is is really speaking to the media.
• 1:50:34
  I don't know if New York is the place for him to come when he
• 1:50:37
  does the most dumbest things when it comes to speaking and
• 1:50:41
  and saying things that kind of turn you off as a player that he
• 1:50:44
  is. So I I think he's got a
• 1:50:46
  tremendous amount of talent. He's still fairly young.
• 1:50:49
  He's 28 years old, 29 years old. He still might have a lot of
• 1:50:51
  football left and but I coming to New York, I don't know if it
• 1:50:55
  makes sense. We'll see.
• 1:50:56
  So one more New York team to talk about.
• 1:50:58
  Western New York when I went to college Buffalo the the Buffalo
• 1:51:02
  Bills. They are being rumored to be
• 1:51:07
  trying to pry former Joe Brady receiver from LSU Justin
• 1:51:12
  Jefferson away from the Vikings. Not going to happen now.
• 1:51:17
  Jefferson. Is saying he's not asking for a
• 1:51:19
  trade or anything like that and the Vikings obviously not
• 1:51:22
  publicly stating it. But if the Bills offer enough
• 1:51:25
  because they certainly need a number one receiver, they may
• 1:51:29
  have to think about it. It's not going to happen.
• 1:51:30
  JJ McCarthy this quarter, they have nothing, are they?
• 1:51:33
  Are they willing to give up two or maybe even three first round
• 1:51:36
  draft picks to get a Justin Jefferson?
• 1:51:38
  It's not going to take back three first.
• 1:51:39
  Oh, A. 100% on his salary. Justin Jefferson, right?
• 1:51:43
  Now last year had a bad season because he had nobody throwing
• 1:51:46
  the ball. This guy is the best wide
• 1:51:47
  receiver in the NFL hands down. If he has the right guy throwing
• 1:51:50
  the ball, he's going to put up 1500 yards.
• 1:51:53
  There is no way they they, they don't get, OK, let's say 2 first
• 1:51:58
  round draft picks and maybe a second and a third.
• 1:52:01
  They're going to have to give up a significant amount for Justin
• 1:52:04
  Jefferson, I think. This is a combination.
• 1:52:07
  Of two things, one of which is Brandon Bean.
• 1:52:09
  He knows that McDermott got fired.
• 1:52:11
  He was kind of lucky to keep his job for whatever reason.
• 1:52:13
  He knows he has to make a big swing and then Minnesota's got a
• 1:52:16
  new GM. Maybe you pick on him, maybe you
• 1:52:17
  think, all right, maybe. What would it take to get I?
• 1:52:19
  Would again, I think it would be two.
• 1:52:21
  First round picks, but I think Brandon Bean is going to try to
• 1:52:23
  manipulate a new GM in order to get him for less.
• 1:52:26
  Now the the tough situation with Buffalo is they've they still
• 1:52:28
  have to do a lot to make the cap space work with Justin
• 1:52:31
  Jefferson. There's the scenario I brought
• 1:52:33
  up to you Fish, was they have to restructure 3 contracts and get
• 1:52:36
  rid of four players and Even so that's only 25,000,000 in cap
• 1:52:38
  space. Jefferson's making 37 a year.
• 1:52:40
  So can they rearrange it enough to make it work will be another
• 1:52:43
  question or include a player in the deal that Minnesota could
• 1:52:46
  want. I would imagine they asked they
• 1:52:47
  they. Tell Jefferson we're going to
• 1:52:49
  restructure. We'll give you all signing bonus
• 1:52:51
  and the cap number comes down for years one and that's what
• 1:52:54
  they would do. Rousseau can be restructured.
• 1:52:56
  He's he's probably their best D lineman since Oliver keeps
• 1:52:59
  getting hurt. He's a really good player.
• 1:53:02
  It's not going to happen. I.
• 1:53:03
  Don't I don't see Minnesota doing that.
• 1:53:05
  I can't. All right, let's let's wrap up
• 1:53:07
  the. Carousel Errol Just quickly talk
• 1:53:09
  about some college hoops. We're not going to get into too
• 1:53:11
  much. Let's just kind of stay in
• 1:53:12
  local. There was a big game last week
• 1:53:15
  between UConn and Saint John. St.
• 1:53:16
  John's upset UConn. UConn had won something like 18
• 1:53:20
  or 19 in a row. You got still in the top five.
• 1:53:23
  But Saint John's, you know, they had, you know, Luis Junior, the
• 1:53:27
  famous flame out last year in the tournament.
• 1:53:29
  They weren't really expected as much this year to be at the top.
• 1:53:32
  And now they may end up back there, maybe make more impact,
• 1:53:36
  more as a middle seed than a top seed.
• 1:53:39
  Everybody knows I like my I. Like Pitino and I like Danny
• 1:53:42
  Hurley. I think they're both competent,
• 1:53:45
  great coaches in in the country. I would love to see these guys
• 1:53:49
  play against one another in the tournament in March Madness.
• 1:53:52
  That's something that you would love to see being that both guys
• 1:53:56
  are, you know, Big East guys and and guys that really stand for
• 1:54:00
  something. And Pitino, who was a a New York
• 1:54:03
  guy and so is Danny, Danny Hurley is a New Jersey guy.
• 1:54:06
  This is something that you like to see.
• 1:54:07
  I look at both got both teams right now, UConn is one of the
• 1:54:11
  best teams in the country, even though losing against Saint
• 1:54:13
  John's. Saint John's is one of the
• 1:54:15
  oldest teams in the country. And, and we expected that.
• 1:54:18
  We, we expected Pitino to to bring in older guys that can run
• 1:54:22
  his offense and run his defense. I think this is going to be, I
• 1:54:25
  think both teams are going to be high profile teams going into
• 1:54:29
  March Madness. And I, I think Danny Hurley
• 1:54:31
  could get this team in the Final Four.
• 1:54:33
  And I wouldn't be surprised if Saint John's somehow gets in the
• 1:54:36
  Elite eight, maybe in the Final four as well.
• 1:54:38
  It's enticing with the Saint John's team.
• 1:54:40
  Because they're much more efficient offensively, more deep
• 1:54:42
  offensively than they were last year or still with, I wouldn't
• 1:54:45
  say as good of defense they had last year, but still good enough
• 1:54:47
  to definitely make a good run. Yukon is interesting because
• 1:54:50
  their offensive efficiency for a top five team is not as high as
• 1:54:53
  you want to see usually, but I think this is the perfect time
• 1:54:55
  to try to get it into shape. I always say like you can't
• 1:54:58
  really streak into a tournament and be expected to last either.
• 1:55:01
  They need to lose at some point. I brought up to you fish in the
• 1:55:03
  in the reading that they hadn't lost since November when they
• 1:55:05
  played Arizona, who just got their first loss of the season
• 1:55:07
  to Kansas. Like that was a good stretch
• 1:55:09
  they're on, but this is I think it was a good the loss for them
• 1:55:11
  to refocus. Danny Hurley is a fundamental
• 1:55:12
  loss means nothing. The regular.
• 1:55:14
  Season means nothing. Both teams are going to the
• 1:55:17
  tournament and I and both teams are quite capable of winning the
• 1:55:21
  whole thing. So I it's great.
• 1:55:23
  It's great for Big East basketball.
• 1:55:25
  You want to see U Conn, UConn at the top level and you want to
• 1:55:29
  see Saint John's at the top level and two of the best
• 1:55:31
  coaches in the country. You love it, you love the
• 1:55:33
  competition and I'm looking forward to March Madness.
• 1:55:36
  Rick Pitino, that. The next game they had he beat
• 1:55:39
  his son Richard Pitino and Xavier to get sole possession of
• 1:55:43
  third all time in college basketball Division One wins,
• 1:55:47
  passing Roy Williams from UNC in Kansas.
• 1:55:50
  Roy friggin. Williams.
• 1:55:52
  I couldn't stand him in North Carolina, by the way.
• 1:55:55
  Anyways, here we go. My deuce of the day.
• 1:55:57
  The deuce of the day. You log.
• 1:56:01
  Not. A log.
• 1:56:01
  I don't have a log but. You know.
• 1:56:10
  Danny Ainge. Ladies and gentlemen, there's a
• 1:56:14
  lot of questions on Danny Ainge's madness.
• 1:56:18
  It is got a tremendous amount of madness.
• 1:56:20
  But guess what? He makes a trade recently, over
• 1:56:24
  a week ago and he adds a guy like Jaron Jackson Junior.
• 1:56:27
  And now all of a sudden, Jaron Jackson Junior is out for the
• 1:56:30
  season with a knee injury. And everybody's questioning why.
• 1:56:34
  What was the man? Why did he make this move?
• 1:56:36
  And I believe he made this move because he knew that Jaron
• 1:56:39
  Jackson was going to be out for the season.
• 1:56:41
  They were going to choke for the rest of the year to try to get a
• 1:56:44
  high draft pick, a top ten pick where they can possibly get one
• 1:56:48
  of these lottery picks. Maybe they get lucky, they get
• 1:56:50
  into the top three and get even Cam Boozer, a BYU kid, or even
• 1:56:54
  Kansas or whatever. I I think this was a reason why
• 1:56:58
  he's rebuilding. Danny Ainge is one of the
• 1:57:00
  smartest, not dumbest, GM's and executives and all the
• 1:57:05
  basketball. He has screwed everybody over
• 1:57:08
  the years when he was running the Celtics and he won
• 1:57:10
  championships over there and now he's screwing again as an
• 1:57:14
  executive with the Utah Jazz. Don't be surprised in the next
• 1:57:17
  three or four years, Danny Ainge in the Utah Jazz are a
• 1:57:21
  contention competitive championship team because Danny
• 1:57:26
  Ainge knows how to spin the wheel and steal from everybody
• 1:57:30
  else. So that is my deuce of the day.
• 1:57:32
  I can't stand Danny Ainge. I hated Danny Ainge as a player
• 1:57:36
  because he was a Celtic and I hate him.
• 1:57:38
  I hate him as an executive. Wherever he goes.
• 1:57:41
  Thank God he's not running my organization.
• 1:57:43
  We love you, Leon. When we come back, ladies and
• 1:57:46
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• 1:57:49
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• 1:57:53
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• 1:58:11
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• 1:58:13
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• 1:58:18
  Hanley was a two time Super Bowl champion with the Giants and
• 1:58:20
  coached the offensive backfield from 1984 until being promoted
• 1:58:24
  to head coach in 1991 when Bill Parcells retired for the first
• 1:58:28
  time with a bad heart. Hanley struggled as head coach
• 1:58:31
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• 1:58:34
  before being fired and replaced by Dan Reeves, who Hanley in the
• 1:58:37
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• 1:58:40
  the franchise over Bill Belichick and Tom Coughlin, who
• 1:58:43
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• 1:58:46
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• 1:58:49
  apparently the smartest of the coaches in terms of IQ.
• 1:58:52
  Yes, smarter than Belichick and Coughlin.
• 1:58:55
  After being fired at only 48 years old, Hanley never coached
• 1:58:58
  again in the NFL despite there being opportunities.
• 1:59:01
  RIP to the two time champ. In a really awful story over the
• 1:59:06
  weekend, Falcons rookie pass rusher James Pierce junior was
• 1:59:09
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• 1:59:13
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• 1:59:15
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• 1:59:19
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• 1:59:22
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• 1:59:25
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• 1:59:29
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• 1:59:33
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• 1:59:36
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• 1:59:40
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• 1:59:43
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• 1:59:46
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• 1:59:49
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• 1:59:52
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• 1:59:55
  Pierce, who was drafted by departed general manager Terry
• 1:59:58
  Fontenot, came into the league with character concerns that led
• 2:00:02
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• 2:00:04
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• 2:00:07
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• 2:00:10
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• 2:03:39
  the league and and obviously with us as a defensive
• 2:03:42
  coordinator has been you know, there there's no one that can
• 2:03:45
  match what Bill Belichick has done in the National Football
• 2:03:49
  League as a coach and he deservedly should get in
• 2:03:52
  immediately as as it's available to him.
• 2:03:54
  But I think there's some powers that be that wanted to, wanted
• 2:03:58
  to kind of slap him on the wrist a little bit for, for whatever
• 2:04:00
  reason, I don't, I'm, I'm not going to go into all the all
• 2:04:02
  those issues, but I think that there was a little bit of a, a
• 2:04:07
  little bit of a conspiracy, I would call it to, to keep him
• 2:04:10
  out of there. Just to say that that he
• 2:04:13
  probably isn't bigger or as big or bigger than the league or
• 2:04:16
  bigger than the game. But you know, he did his part.
• 2:04:20
  I think that he had a tremendous career in the National Football
• 2:04:22
  League. It may not even be over,
• 2:04:25
  depending upon what happens with him in North Carolina.
• 2:04:28
  Who knows. But but Bill definitely deserved
• 2:04:30
  to be in. And I I think it's just a little
• 2:04:33
  bit of gameplay in your gamesmanship and just trying to
• 2:04:36
  send some subtle messages, whatever they may be, to Bill
• 2:04:40
  and any others. I just don't, I just don't like
• 2:04:43
  that kind of politics. So I wanted to know you being.
• 2:04:46
  Obviously a player that played with him like how is he
• 2:04:49
  transitioned, like his style and his personality on and off the
• 2:04:52
  field for when you played. So obviously when he became a
• 2:04:54
  coach with the Patriots later on after you retired until to now,
• 2:04:56
  because I know you do some college football broadcasting as
• 2:04:59
  well. Like what do you think the
• 2:05:00
  transition of his like, just football career has been?
• 2:05:02
  Like, you know, Bill has always been.
• 2:05:04
  True to himself and really what he is, he's cut and dry,
• 2:05:07
  straight to the point. When he was coaching us, it was
• 2:05:11
  he presented us the information, gave us the coaching points that
• 2:05:14
  he had gleaned from from hours and hours and hours of film
• 2:05:18
  study and and that's still him today.
• 2:05:20
  I mean, that's what made him the most successful coach of all
• 2:05:23
  time. And that's his preparation.
• 2:05:25
  He the no one was going to outwork Bill.
• 2:05:27
  No one was going to put a a game plan together that that was
• 2:05:30
  superlative to his. And I think that it, and when he
• 2:05:33
  had a bunch of guys that could play and play well and he did it
• 2:05:36
  in a couple of spots. Now he, he certainly, he
• 2:05:38
  certainly shine. And I, I, I don't think that
• 2:05:41
  there's any doubt that Bill Belichick is it was it's a
• 2:05:44
  tremendous coach. And but you know, what you see
• 2:05:47
  is what you get. He hasn't changed.
• 2:05:49
  He hasn't changed from the day when when when he was with us
• 2:05:52
  and in East Rutherford for those many ball games and
• 2:05:54
  championships to what he's doing today in North Carolina.
• 2:05:57
  Gary, we had one of your old. Buddies on the show last week,
• 2:06:00
  Howard Cross and and we kind of went through some of the things
• 2:06:04
  that the Giants have done in the past.
• 2:06:05
  And Tom Coughlin was one guy that I thought they mistreated
• 2:06:09
  at the end of his career with the New York Giants.
• 2:06:11
  This is a guy that won two Super Bowl championships.
• 2:06:14
  You know him because he was a part of that staff, the Bill
• 2:06:17
  Parcells and Bill Belichick staff.
• 2:06:19
  What do you know about Tom Coughlin that other people don't
• 2:06:23
  know about him? He's an open book.
• 2:06:24
  I mean, there's. Not much about Tom Coughlin that
• 2:06:27
  you you need to have no Otherwise you had a great
• 2:06:30
  collegiate career to the Giants was was tremendous as an
• 2:06:35
  assistant coach on bill staff. And he he worked as though, you
• 2:06:40
  know, everything was was perfect.
• 2:06:42
  And he demanded that of his of his of his group, the running
• 2:06:46
  backs, obviously with that he worked with.
• 2:06:48
  And I think that, you know, with us when he was in in that mode,
• 2:06:52
  he really, you know, just shine in what he did.
• 2:06:55
  Parcells gave his coaches their lanes to swim in, so to speak.
• 2:06:59
  OK, They didn't. Most of them didn't jump across
• 2:07:02
  across the lanes to try to, you know, out guess the other the
• 2:07:06
  other coaches or really out guess Parcells at that point.
• 2:07:09
  So it was all kind of a bill on top and everybody else is kind
• 2:07:12
  of looking up to him as far as the coaches go.
• 2:07:14
  But Tom Coughlin was one of those who, you know, followed,
• 2:07:17
  you know, you know, about being being a coach in our on our
• 2:07:21
  staff. And he was just a tremendous, A
• 2:07:24
  tremendous resource because he had success at the collegiate
• 2:07:27
  level. And, you know, he brought that
• 2:07:29
  to to the Giants. And then when he reemerged with
• 2:07:31
  the Giants, you know, you saw what he brought.
• 2:07:33
  We are talking to former New York Giants.
• 2:07:35
  Super Bowl champion, two time Super Bowl champion linebacker
• 2:07:38
  Gary Reasons Lawrence Taylor is one of the greatest, if not the
• 2:07:41
  greatest defensive lineman of all time.
• 2:07:44
  What type of player was it? What kind of leader was he in
• 2:07:47
  the locker room and and everybody said he was like, like
• 2:07:50
  a lightning bolt, not only in the locker room, but on the
• 2:07:53
  football field. What do you know about him that
• 2:07:55
  other fans don't know about him that he has done behind the
• 2:07:59
  scenes to hit for his teammates that other people don't
• 2:08:02
  understand? Lawrence, I think, was.
• 2:08:05
  A tremendous teammate. He played his heart out for
• 2:08:08
  everybody. You gave your all and he and he
• 2:08:10
  noticed that you were giving your all.
• 2:08:12
  You had no issues with Lawrence, but if you were not
• 2:08:16
  contributing, if you were not putting, putting yourself out
• 2:08:19
  there in subtle ways, he would he would make let you know that.
• 2:08:22
  And I saw a few of those things go on.
• 2:08:25
  There were a lot of younger guys that came through with drafts
• 2:08:27
  and different things. And you know that he didn't see
• 2:08:29
  Fitz here. I think he had a couple of
• 2:08:31
  conversations with Parcells along the way about questioning
• 2:08:34
  about some of the some of these these personnel that had showed
• 2:08:39
  up in our locker room. And you know, he he was pretty
• 2:08:42
  blunt about it sometimes. But when we had a team together
• 2:08:45
  for every year, for every season, he was as good a
• 2:08:48
  teammate as ever, you know, And he, he would work his tail off.
• 2:08:52
  And I, I think he is the greatest defensive player to
• 2:08:55
  ever play the game. That's, that's my take on it,
• 2:08:58
  because I got to see him on a day-to-day basis and I saw the
• 2:09:02
  superlative athleticism that he possessed that it's just
• 2:09:07
  incomprehensible how he could do the things he did on the field.
• 2:09:11
  So you look at what he did as as an edge rusher back in the day
• 2:09:15
  in the 80s and early 90s and you know, he was tremendous.
• 2:09:18
  And he set the standard way up here, up here for guys to reach
• 2:09:24
  to. Well, they're still trying to
• 2:09:26
  emulate that today. You know there's.
• 2:09:28
  Not there's a couple of guys that are trying to get close to
• 2:09:31
  him in speed and not going to get close to him in size
• 2:09:34
  capability and his speed. But I think I think that
• 2:09:37
  Lawrence really had a lot of just God-given traits that he
• 2:09:42
  could that he could play and at a high level and that motor
• 2:09:46
  never turned off. So he was relentless.
• 2:09:48
  And that was the key to our defense back in the day, being
• 2:09:51
  relentless defensive, you know, guys on the field and you know,
• 2:09:55
  much like the Super Bowl this weekend.
• 2:09:57
  But the Seahawks they were in that they ran their defense that
• 2:09:59
  they were much, much like that with their Super Bowl
• 2:10:02
  championship. So assisting one of your other
• 2:10:04
  teammates. Sue and Carl Banks, that he's
• 2:10:06
  been kind of controversial since he's become a New York Giants
• 2:10:09
  analyst. I love him taking shots at some.
• 2:10:11
  Of the Giants fans over there. With Eli Manning, Odell Beckham
• 2:10:14
  we've seen in the past, and then this year most recently with
• 2:10:15
  Dexter Lawrence calling him out for the lack of effort and stuff
• 2:10:18
  like that too. First obviously playing with
• 2:10:20
  him, like, was he that same kind of way as a player?
• 2:10:22
  And what if you think thoughts him now as an analyst?
• 2:10:25
  You know, I think that, Carl. He and I came into the league in
• 2:10:29
  the same year in 84 in the draft.
• 2:10:30
  And so, you know, we had good friendship and for us to be kind
• 2:10:35
  of In Sync as players, we started, you know, in 1984, the
• 2:10:39
  first game that Parcells will allow us to start was was was
• 2:10:43
  against Atlanta is week number six.
• 2:10:46
  You know, the the games were started early on and then, you
• 2:10:48
  know, he put Carl and us in and we stayed into the game, but he
• 2:10:52
  didn't start us until week 6 because he like he like veteran
• 2:10:54
  players. But Carl, he displayed, you
• 2:10:58
  know, they tried to test him in training camp.
• 2:11:00
  They, they did a lot of things for the first round pick, the
• 2:11:03
  number three overall pick, which is really super high pick for
• 2:11:06
  the Giants back in the day. And he got paid quite a bit of
• 2:11:09
  money. And they wanted to see if he was
• 2:11:12
  worth that money for some of the things that they put him through
• 2:11:15
  physically, mentally in training camp.
• 2:11:18
  Parcells was all about that, trying to create, trying to
• 2:11:21
  create toughness on our team and trying to agitate Carl a little
• 2:11:25
  bit. But I tell you what, Carl, Carl
• 2:11:28
  persisted and he came through shining colors because he showed
• 2:11:32
  his physical toughness, his grit.
• 2:11:34
  And he's that same way today. He's not, he hasn't changed
• 2:11:37
  either. When he sees something that
• 2:11:39
  isn't right, he's going to let you know it.
• 2:11:41
  When he sees something that he think can be a fit, he'll let
• 2:11:44
  you know that. And he's going to do that with
• 2:11:46
  consistency and persistency. And I think he's, I think he's
• 2:11:51
  Carl has worked himself into being a quality, quality
• 2:11:54
  analyst. And really he's got his heart
• 2:11:57
  that he that he that he bleeds blue with, but he's got to have
• 2:12:00
  his mouth out there talking and he has to kind of be sometimes
• 2:12:06
  in the middle of the road. You know, he can't be all giants
• 2:12:09
  blue all the time, you know, but he's got to be as an analyst.
• 2:12:12
  You've got to be down that road. When I go to do, you know, I do
• 2:12:15
  broadcasting, you know, I'm, I'm very much down the middle
• 2:12:17
  because, you know, these college teams, I'm, I'm not a part of
• 2:12:20
  any of them. I, I can walk that line and talk
• 2:12:23
  about either one of these teams. Carl, he knows a lot more about
• 2:12:27
  the giants than he does about the opponents because of his his
• 2:12:31
  proximity. And when he goes to do a game,
• 2:12:34
  he's trying to be pretty much even Steven with, with that, but
• 2:12:38
  he can't be it's, it's, it's, it's just not there.
• 2:12:40
  That's, that's the, the broadcast ship of the, the New
• 2:12:42
  York Giants, that radio broadcast with that he's on.
• 2:12:47
  And it's, it's something that it's just hard to do, but he's
• 2:12:50
  navigating it. And, and I think that Carl's
• 2:12:53
  got, he brings a lot to the game.
• 2:12:54
  I think he brings a lot of knowledge, a lot of experience,
• 2:12:57
  and he's got a lot of great thoughts.
• 2:12:58
  Jeff Hostetler I remember when Phil Simms went down.
• 2:13:02
  I was young and a lot of people, a lot of Giant fans were
• 2:13:05
  worried. Phil's Sims, The great Phil Sims
• 2:13:07
  goes down. We're not winning a Super Bowl.
• 2:13:10
  We're not going to make a playoff run.
• 2:13:12
  And what a playoff run Jeff Hostetler had.
• 2:13:15
  What type of player was Jeff Hostetler?
• 2:13:17
  Well, another 1984 draft. Member with Carl and I, William
• 2:13:20
  Roberts and you know, amongst our class, but Jeff really, you
• 2:13:24
  know, he had no meaningful snaps before that point in the season
• 2:13:28
  when when Phil got injured. So he had to go into the game.
• 2:13:32
  And but every one of us on the team that was there from the
• 2:13:36
  time that Jeff stepped on on the the team and in the in the
• 2:13:39
  backup roll, we could see his athleticism, we could see his
• 2:13:43
  game savvy. We could see how well he
• 2:13:46
  competed and he always approached every week with a
• 2:13:50
  great attitude and he continued to do that.
• 2:13:53
  So, you know, as we all know, you know, the news stories were
• 2:13:56
  the seemingly indestructible Phil Simms.
• 2:13:59
  But at one point when he got when he goes down our our season
• 2:14:04
  lies in the hands of a player who really hadn't had that many
• 2:14:10
  meaningful snaps in in his career, let alone the season.
• 2:14:14
  So that's that was a question that had to be answered.
• 2:14:17
  And Jeff came through in flying colors, as we all know.
• 2:14:21
  And I'm very glad that we had that quality depth and that
• 2:14:24
  quality type of a player. And he obviously went on to have
• 2:14:27
  a tremendous NFL career. So just another one of your
• 2:14:31
  teammates, a guy. You maybe you played against in
• 2:14:32
  practice a lot too, one of the greatest tight ends of that era
• 2:14:34
  and Mark Bavaro first, like you think he changed the tight end
• 2:14:38
  position for a lot of what it was in the 70s or was kind of
• 2:14:40
  that real grading type guys and like transitioning to what it is
• 2:14:43
  now and what was it like going up against him in practice?
• 2:14:47
  Yeah, Mark was a was a tremendous.
• 2:14:48
  Athlete and you know, kind of a guy no nonsense, just, you know,
• 2:14:52
  I'm going to put my head down. I'm going to be a tough guy and
• 2:14:54
  this is what you're going to get and he's like that and it's just
• 2:14:57
  amazing how this this this fake punt opens up right there and I
• 2:15:00
  I just get to run down the field.
• 2:15:01
  I love seeing this anyway. But but you know, with the with
• 2:15:06
  Mark, Mark was a guy who really, really quiet.
• 2:15:10
  You know, he kind of kept himself really wasn't outgoing,
• 2:15:13
  but boy, when he was on the field, he had he had a a
• 2:15:17
  demeanor about him that was unmistakable.
• 2:15:20
  You ask if I think he changed the game.
• 2:15:22
  I think he did have a have a huge impact on the game.
• 2:15:24
  Not only was he a premium blocker at the line of
• 2:15:27
  scrimmage, but he had the ability to get open, make booze
• 2:15:31
  to get out, get it, get out in space.
• 2:15:33
  Was it was very adept at catching the football and
• 2:15:36
  obviously made big plays. And, and when he had his head
• 2:15:38
  down, you know, we all know what what, who he could carry.
• 2:15:41
  And a lot of players jump on his back and just take for a ride.
• 2:15:44
  That was that was Mark Duvar. We are talking to former New
• 2:15:47
  York Giants. Two time Super Bowl champion
• 2:15:50
  linebacker Dara Reasons. We spoke about Tom Coughlin, We
• 2:15:54
  spoke about Bill Belichick. We have to speak about Bill
• 2:15:58
  Parcells. I think one of the greatest
• 2:16:01
  defensive minds the NFL has ever seen.
• 2:16:03
  I think people forget what Bill Parcells has brought to the
• 2:16:06
  game. Look at the guys that he has
• 2:16:07
  drafted in the past. Look at the defensive lineman
• 2:16:10
  that have become Hall of Farmers.
• 2:16:13
  What type of head coach was he when you were with the New York
• 2:16:16
  Giants? I think he was the.
• 2:16:19
  Exact fit that we needed as a head coach.
• 2:16:24
  First of all, obviously Bill, we all know this.
• 2:16:25
  He's from he's from the Northeast New Jersey guy and you
• 2:16:28
  know, another no nonsense guy. But the way he commanded the
• 2:16:33
  locker room was really magical. And the way he did that, he had
• 2:16:39
  the best way of being a coach. And he was different of how he
• 2:16:46
  coached with different players and let me get let me get into
• 2:16:49
  this a little bit. He knew things.
• 2:16:52
  About each of. Us that he knew, and any time he
• 2:16:55
  was in conversation with you, he would pick on those little
• 2:16:58
  things and bring them up. Whether it was a thorn in your
• 2:17:01
  side or whether he's trying to uplift you, He knew things about
• 2:17:05
  you that could push your buttons and he knew how to push those
• 2:17:08
  buttons. That was his, that was his
• 2:17:11
  superpower for him with our team in, in that era.
• 2:17:16
  And he, he, he came across as a guy who obviously had tremendous
• 2:17:21
  knowledge of the game, a tough guy from the from, from New
• 2:17:24
  Jersey. There's no doubt about that.
• 2:17:26
  And he brought that toughness, that blue collar mentality to us
• 2:17:29
  every single day. He coached his coaches as hard
• 2:17:34
  as he coached us. Now, when you think about that,
• 2:17:39
  that doesn't go talk, go on being talked about quite a bit.
• 2:17:41
  But when they're upstairs after we're all gone and he's and he's
• 2:17:46
  going off on those guys, it, it was no different than him going
• 2:17:49
  off on us on the field because I knew that he he did that with
• 2:17:53
  the with his coaches and he would also lay him out out there
• 2:17:56
  on the field with us. But you know, he he had a way of
• 2:18:00
  of. Making.
• 2:18:01
  People perform and you know the the question that you didn't
• 2:18:04
  want to have him ask you was Gary, do you want the aisle or
• 2:18:09
  the window? You know what that one means?
• 2:18:13
  Of course, Of course. Yeah, we we just don't want him.
• 2:18:16
  To ask that question. So, but I think Bill Parcells
• 2:18:20
  was is, was one-of-a-kind and definitely a tremendous head
• 2:18:23
  coach in the National Football League, a legendary, legendary
• 2:18:26
  figure in the Northeastern New Jersey, New York, and certainly
• 2:18:30
  someone that had put put the team and, and the community on
• 2:18:35
  his back. And then he pulled, pulled with
• 2:18:37
  him a bunch of guys that he pulled together, myself included
• 2:18:40
  in the draft in 1984 and, and which kind of propelled us into
• 2:18:44
  the winning seasons. And that from that year forward
• 2:18:47
  and it and it just kind of worked out really, really well.
• 2:18:50
  Fortunately, we had our work stoppage that kind of kind of
• 2:18:53
  derailed things after our first Super Bowl championship.
• 2:18:56
  We'll talk about that another time.
• 2:18:58
  So yeah, let's shift. To the current.
• 2:18:59
  Giants, it seems like the linebacker position is the one
• 2:19:02
  that's gotten a lot of the the drama on the defensive side of
• 2:19:04
  the ball in the last few years. Brian Burns was the one that was
• 2:19:07
  calling out the Giants for the lack of effort at the end of the
• 2:19:09
  first end of the 2024 season. And then Kayvon Thibodeau, he's
• 2:19:13
  had all his antics. He played better this year, but
• 2:19:15
  now a big decision. Do they trade him?
• 2:19:16
  Do they keep him this year? And then Abdul Carter was the
• 2:19:18
  probably the most notable of all late to meetings, might have
• 2:19:21
  been watching some inappropriate things in his rookie season.
• 2:19:24
  Played well after that, but still some some issues there.
• 2:19:27
  What are your thoughts? All the linebacker, all those
• 2:19:30
  linebackers and there may be some character questions.
• 2:19:34
  Well. You you take.
• 2:19:35
  Burns and when I when I first saw Burns playing with the
• 2:19:38
  Giants, I thought he lacked motivation.
• 2:19:42
  His first year. I, I didn't see that from him.
• 2:19:45
  I didn't see the the the all out gameplay that, you know, he was
• 2:19:51
  supposed to have. He then turned the level the the
• 2:19:55
  notch up couple of terms this year.
• 2:19:58
  And he certainly is now one of the cornerstones of that
• 2:20:01
  defense. And he is definitely a a premium
• 2:20:04
  player on the defensive ends as an edge rusher, outside rusher.
• 2:20:09
  And I think that he brought a lot of intensity to the Giants.
• 2:20:12
  You know, Abdul, we're we're all expecting to be him, be
• 2:20:15
  Superman, but let's just face it, he has to mature.
• 2:20:18
  He has to grow up. He's got to go through the
• 2:20:20
  paces. You can't you can't expect
• 2:20:23
  everybody to be the guy you want him to be.
• 2:20:25
  Put him in a box and be be perfect character issues,
• 2:20:29
  whether or not they're they're they're they're that or or what
• 2:20:31
  have you. Forget about that.
• 2:20:32
  Throw that crap out the window. Just get by it and move forward
• 2:20:35
  and grow. And I think that Abdul Carter at
• 2:20:38
  the end of the season, he did grow, OK.
• 2:20:41
  He obviously had some some big plays along the way towards the
• 2:20:45
  end of the year. And I think that he saw he sees
• 2:20:48
  in himself what he can become in the National Football League.
• 2:20:51
  So I don't think that there's any questions about his ability
• 2:20:54
  or about his about his play. It's just him possibly having a
• 2:20:57
  a little maturity of growth here potentially.
• 2:21:01
  It's going to have to be quick if he's going to going to be a
• 2:21:04
  factor in that. Giants defense.
• 2:21:05
  We are talking to former New York.
• 2:21:07
  Giants two time Super Bowl champion linebacker Gary
• 2:21:09
  Reasons. You know John Harbaugh is the
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  new head coach for the New York Giants.
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  The Giants have gone from coach to coach to coach since Tom
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  Coughlin and struck out on every single one of them.
• 2:21:22
  You look at John Harbaugh, he's been successful.
• 2:21:24
  He won one Super Bowl, but a lot of people say that wasn't his
• 2:21:28
  team. Those weren't his players, his
• 2:21:30
  development of players, Lamar Jackson.
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  Lamar Jackson was a guy that didn't want him to come back.
• 2:21:35
  He told the organization he would rather move forward with a
• 2:21:38
  new head coach. Do you think that John Harbaugh
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  moving on to a new team, a new organization, getting paid as
• 2:21:45
  much as he has is the right move for the New York Giants?
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  Do you think he was the right guy to hire over Mike McCarthy
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  or maybe a Tomlin or one of these bigger, more known coaches
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  or even the younger coaches like Minter?
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  Do you think he was the right guy for the job?
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  I absolutely 100%. Think that he is the best fit
• 2:22:06
  from all of that group for the Giants right now.
• 2:22:11
  He brings something to the table that the previous coaches did
• 2:22:15
  not, and it's instant credibility, his ability to step
• 2:22:21
  in front of the team from day one and command a presence of
• 2:22:27
  them knowing that. He's a disciplinarian.
• 2:22:31
  He's a guy that is straight forward and the path is only one
• 2:22:36
  way and that is team and that's winning.
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  And with his credentials and his championship caliber background,
• 2:22:44
  I think that he is out an outstanding choice for the
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  giants And so glad that he was available for the giants in in
• 2:22:52
  in this in this cycle, because, you know, it wasn't written that
• 2:22:56
  he was going to be on the market, but it happened.
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  And I think that it is a really, really good fit.
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  He he, you know, he reminds. Me of Tom.
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  Coughlin coming into, you know, the, the Giants organization as
• 2:23:10
  a head coach, I think that it's going to be something somewhat
• 2:23:14
  similar because Tom had a great command of, of personnel.
• 2:23:18
  He had a great command of, of, of the facilities and, and, and
• 2:23:22
  everything around it. I see John Harbaugh stepping in
• 2:23:25
  there, not missing a beat. I think that he's going to work
• 2:23:29
  very well with the front office. I, I, I think that there's a,
• 2:23:33
  the previous head coach, he needed to leave.
• 2:23:37
  That. That's my opinion.
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  And we, we're, we're, we're in the right, right position now
• 2:23:42
  with with with John Harbaugh there.
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  And I think he can get the Giants back to prominence.
• 2:23:46
  I really do. So what about some of the
• 2:23:48
  assistant coaching? Hires Greg Roman, they bring in
• 2:23:51
  as he has familiarity with John Harbaugh.
• 2:23:53
  Brian Callahan just brought in as the quarterback coach who did
• 2:23:55
  well with Cincinnati. But again, that's Joe Burrow.
• 2:23:57
  Was he really the reason? And then just struggled this
• 2:23:59
  year with the Titans as a head coach.
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  And then Matt Nagy, I think the one that I kind of questioned
• 2:24:04
  the most because, yeah, he did well with the Chiefs, but he
• 2:24:06
  wasn't really the main play caller with the Chiefs with Andy
• 2:24:08
  Reid. So what are your thoughts on all
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  those? I don't care who they are.
• 2:24:12
  I really don't. It's the head coach's job to
• 2:24:15
  coach the coaches and the coaches coach the players.
• 2:24:19
  And it's kind of goes that way. If he had a chance, and I'm sure
• 2:24:22
  that John will do this and then probably can do it very easily.
• 2:24:25
  Have a conversation with Bill Parcells, basically talk about
• 2:24:28
  talk about structure and talk, talk about how you run this
• 2:24:31
  football team in this kind of environment.
• 2:24:33
  You know, he was a little bit isolated.
• 2:24:35
  You know, John, you know, in, in, in his in his former team.
• 2:24:39
  But but because it's not it's not the bubble that New York is.
• 2:24:42
  It certainly was not. That's going to be the only
• 2:24:44
  challenge. Can he navigate the, the media
• 2:24:47
  waters and so to speak as a head coach in New York?
• 2:24:51
  I don't think there's going to be an issue.
• 2:24:52
  I think that he's going to do it just fine.
• 2:24:54
  But I I think that he's probably going to possibly throw out,
• 2:24:57
  throw, throw out the the, the phone calls to, to both Tomlin
• 2:25:01
  and and Parcells, not Tomlin, but coach Hoffman and Tom and
• 2:25:06
  Parcells, rather than to have about how do I run this job and
• 2:25:10
  how do we do this the right way with what I've got.
• 2:25:12
  And he's going to get that. He's going to get that their
• 2:25:15
  impressions and he's going to blend that into what's going to
• 2:25:18
  be successful for him in New York.
• 2:25:20
  Gary, you look at Jackson Dart. And obviously his first season
• 2:25:24
  he looked pretty good. He has some ups and downs.
• 2:25:27
  A lot of people question him moving outside of the pocket a
• 2:25:30
  little too much, not standing in the pocket and making the
• 2:25:33
  throws. Do you think a guy like John
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  Harbaugh will be able to develop him into the quarterback that a
• 2:25:38
  lot of Giant fans believe he could be?
• 2:25:40
  Well, you develop a quarterback. Best by developing the players
• 2:25:44
  around the quarterback, agree? Yes, and the reason?
• 2:25:48
  Being. Is that, you know, a quarterback
• 2:25:50
  is one guy. OK, if that right guard and the
• 2:25:53
  right tackle are horseshit, then you're going to have to have
• 2:25:56
  you're going to have to find some way to fix that problem
• 2:25:59
  before you're going to fix anything.
• 2:26:00
  He's going to be getting hit in the mouth.
• 2:26:02
  OK, There is a clock. There's a little clock in the
• 2:26:04
  quarterbacks head when when they know that that ball needs to be
• 2:26:09
  out of their hand or they need to take off and run.
• 2:26:11
  In Jackson Darts case, he has the ability to take off and run
• 2:26:15
  when things breakdown. We don't need to have him do
• 2:26:18
  that as much. And I think that in year 2
• 2:26:22
  you're going to see a little bit more patience with Jackson
• 2:26:25
  simply because of he is the game is going to slow down for him a
• 2:26:29
  little bit. He's going to know what's what
• 2:26:30
  is coming, what's understanding of his understanding of the
• 2:26:34
  game. I just hope that, you know,
• 2:26:36
  coaching changes and and and and changes in in the system that he
• 2:26:42
  doesn't have to catch up a lot and, you know, they're trying to
• 2:26:44
  re figure things out. But I think it was tremendous.
• 2:26:48
  What what he what he did early on.
• 2:26:51
  And I just thought he took a little bit too much on his
• 2:26:53
  shoulder as far as trying to make plays, you know, and he got
• 2:26:57
  it, got it got him dinged a couple of times.
• 2:26:59
  So that does happen. Joe Shane A.
• 2:27:02
  Guy that I'm not a big fan of, I I got a chance to watch him on
• 2:27:06
  Hard Knocks. He pretty much threw Saquon
• 2:27:08
  Barkley to the dogs and eventually became an Eagle,
• 2:27:12
  something that John Marritt did not want to happen.
• 2:27:14
  And now he hires John Harbaugh. And if Joe Shane does not
• 2:27:19
  succeed this season, a lot of people think he's on the hot
• 2:27:22
  seat and maybe John Harbell gets to pick his GM to work with.
• 2:27:26
  Do you believe that Joe Shane is the right guy for the job?
• 2:27:29
  Do you think he's made more mistakes than right acquisitions
• 2:27:32
  that has helped this organization move forward?
• 2:27:35
  I think that he's put. Players in in there to for the
• 2:27:38
  coaches to utilize that we're adequate and and unfortunately a
• 2:27:42
  couple of couple of injuries happened.
• 2:27:43
  You know, obviously my league going down early was not a was
• 2:27:46
  not something that was easily overcome this this season, but.
• 2:27:52
  Sheen, there's, you know, I'm. 5050 on him.
• 2:27:57
  I think that he understands well enough how to put the pieces
• 2:28:00
  together. The the thing that a general
• 2:28:03
  manager and someone who is responsible for bringing players
• 2:28:06
  into the organization, they have to have an alignment with the
• 2:28:09
  coaching staff. They've got to have an alignment
• 2:28:11
  with the vision of what type of player, what is the skill set,
• 2:28:15
  what is the what is the adaptability to the particular
• 2:28:17
  system and style that you're going to play.
• 2:28:20
  And if that aligns with Harbaugh and his schemes, there won't be
• 2:28:24
  any problems. There won't be any issues.
• 2:28:26
  I haven't heard of any, any, any, uh, any issues or any, or
• 2:28:30
  anything where the thought process is differing from either
• 2:28:33
  one of them. I think if there's, they're on
• 2:28:35
  the same track together and that's what they, how they
• 2:28:37
  should be, it'll all be fine. But if something goes wrong and
• 2:28:41
  you get a player in or out, that's not necessarily in the
• 2:28:44
  way of their combined thinking. It's tough sledding.
• 2:28:47
  It really is it, you know, you're walking on in murky
• 2:28:50
  waters. Both of them are in reality
• 2:28:53
  because you know, the the team is only as good as the players
• 2:28:58
  play it on the field and the players have to play the game
• 2:29:01
  through the tutelage of their coaching staff, not from the
• 2:29:05
  general manager, but from the coaching staff.
• 2:29:07
  So that's they have to translate that into workable instruction
• 2:29:12
  and being able to be a physical force to be able to play.
• 2:29:15
  That is what that has to happen. There's things that you have to
• 2:29:20
  bring other guys along that are just pieces of this would be an
• 2:29:24
  offensive lineman, defensive lineman, you know, secondary.
• 2:29:27
  You've got to bring other pieces together and they've got to be
• 2:29:30
  cohesive. This cohesive structure, really,
• 2:29:35
  I think it, I think it started. To happen early in the.
• 2:29:37
  Season and then it was kind of wobbling in the middle and I
• 2:29:40
  think towards the end they kind of got a semblance of the of the
• 2:29:43
  cohesive in his back ended on a on a pretty decent pretty decent
• 2:29:46
  note. So that is where I think that
• 2:29:49
  this team really needs to needs to shine.
• 2:29:52
  They need to Coheed be cohesive and come together.
• 2:29:55
  If they do that early in the season in 2026, it could be
• 2:30:00
  could be special. You know, obviously we know it's
• 2:30:02
  the 40th anniversary of our Super Bowl 21 season coming up.
• 2:30:05
  So I'm hoping these guys, you know, bring a little fanfare to
• 2:30:08
  it. I want to shift.
• 2:30:10
  Gears a little bit because I know you do a lot of college
• 2:30:12
  football broadcasting. Obviously a lot of landscape to
• 2:30:14
  change in college football with the NIL, the transfer portal and
• 2:30:17
  this new College Football Playoff format.
• 2:30:19
  There's a lot of old school coaches like Dabo Sweeney and
• 2:30:22
  Nick Saban taking shots of that In your time broadcasting
• 2:30:26
  college football, like do you think these changes are good
• 2:30:28
  from what you've seen in the past?
• 2:30:30
  Absolutely not. I'm an.
• 2:30:32
  Old school guy. I you know, navigating NIL out
• 2:30:35
  there is a nightmare. Navigating the transfer portal
• 2:30:39
  is a nightmare. It is, it is really, really
• 2:30:43
  difficult. You know, I went to a school in
• 2:30:46
  Louisiana and Northwestern State and we're basically we're, we're
• 2:30:49
  Division 1 college football program, but we call it the CFCS
• 2:30:52
  program. It's an FCS school.
• 2:30:54
  They play at the FCS level. You know, the one thing that is,
• 2:30:58
  is, is extremely crazy right now is money's flying around right,
• 2:31:02
  left with a lot of players and all the players are just chasing
• 2:31:06
  money. It's really what that's really
• 2:31:08
  what NIL is and really what transfer portal is all about is
• 2:31:11
  there is these guys are chasing. There's no legacy, There's no,
• 2:31:15
  there's no loyalty to the team. It's it's just a lot of lot of
• 2:31:21
  stuff. So these coaches have a really
• 2:31:25
  real, they preach to him all the time about, you know, wanting to
• 2:31:27
  be there and be cohesive and all this.
• 2:31:28
  But well, let's face it, when you have 20, thirty, 40% of your
• 2:31:33
  team entering that transfer portal at the end of the season,
• 2:31:37
  everybody's, everybody is, is, is, is not, is, is trying to
• 2:31:41
  find a way to, to do it. And it's all comes down to
• 2:31:44
  money, you know, and, and unfortunately the smaller
• 2:31:47
  schools just don't have those resources.
• 2:31:49
  But you know, the it's, it's so I, I did, I completely dislike
• 2:31:53
  it. I completely AM.
• 2:31:57
  I'm on the. I'm the old.
• 2:31:58
  School guy and I and I, I'll stay, I'll stay that way.
• 2:32:02
  I just don't like what it is. But I think what is holding it
• 2:32:05
  all back and it's it's really truly it's it's, it's the fair
• 2:32:09
  marketplace. You know, we live in a society
• 2:32:11
  in, in the US that I can't tell you how much money you can or
• 2:32:16
  should make or what income or where you can go to work.
• 2:32:19
  It's not my job to do that. If I was doing that, I'd be
• 2:32:21
  controlling you. Oh, that sounds like.
• 2:32:24
  That they do what they do to. College football players, they
• 2:32:26
  control them. Not anymore.
• 2:32:29
  So, you know, with the NFL and the NBA and MLB, we all have
• 2:32:32
  unions because we join a union so that we can collectively
• 2:32:36
  bargain for our, our rights. But the, there's no way, there's
• 2:32:40
  not a structure right now that college athletes are bonding
• 2:32:44
  together to have collectively bargained rights.
• 2:32:47
  So it's, it's really, it's, it's, it's crazy out there.
• 2:32:51
  I don't like it, but it's it's something that, you know, a lot
• 2:32:55
  of people, it's just, it's just talk.
• 2:32:57
  But there's a lot of money flying around.
• 2:33:01
  Hey, Gary, it's Aaron. Fisher, I'm the producer.
• 2:33:04
  I just had to ask him, a huge Giants fan.
• 2:33:06
  I had to ask you a question. I also coach high school
• 2:33:08
  football up by West Point. And I, I obviously I grew up on
• 2:33:13
  the hit, You know, your play against the Broncos clinching
• 2:33:15
  the playoffs 89. But and I'll play, I'll play it
• 2:33:19
  again. I played it a little bit
• 2:33:20
  earlier, but if I taught somebody to do this, Gary, I
• 2:33:24
  would probably get fired from my job as a high school coach.
• 2:33:28
  Because today if you lead with your head, you know, despite the
• 2:33:32
  fact it was one of the greatest plays I've, you know, in
• 2:33:35
  football history, in my opinion, they probably flag you for it in
• 2:33:39
  the NFL today. And I know in youth it's
• 2:33:42
  something that they really frown upon.
• 2:33:44
  So I just kind of wanted your take on, you know, how the games
• 2:33:47
  change. You said you're an old school
• 2:33:48
  guy, obviously with the NIL, but I can imagine your opinions on
• 2:33:52
  tackling, you know, the the going from the biting the ball
• 2:33:55
  to, you know, the rugby style tackling when Pete Carroll kind
• 2:33:58
  of, you know, did it with the Legion of Boom.
• 2:34:00
  That's kind of been a big thing in high school circles.
• 2:34:02
  And I just want to know what your take was on that.
• 2:34:04
  Well, first of all, you. Know back in the day that was a
• 2:34:08
  very physical play and a tough play and you know, and you dive
• 2:34:11
  over the top and hopefully you hit something, you dive, you
• 2:34:13
  take off and hopefully you, you hit your target and I and I did.
• 2:34:17
  And, but believe it or not, even in, in today's rules, it's
• 2:34:21
  between the tackle box. So that's a run play.
• 2:34:23
  It's a running area. There's, there's, have you ever
• 2:34:27
  seen a helmet? The helmet call called in the in
• 2:34:32
  the tackle tackle to zone. No, there's not.
• 2:34:35
  So it's a, it's a legal tackle. People are confused about that.
• 2:34:38
  It's just they can see see it coming over the top and it's and
• 2:34:41
  it's pronounced, but it's not when you're in between the
• 2:34:44
  tackles. Regardless of that, I am in 100%
• 2:34:49
  agreement and favor of some of the changes to the game as far
• 2:34:56
  as safety, OK, I definitely I think that some of the protected
• 2:35:02
  protections that the receivers give as far as getting blown up
• 2:35:05
  and things out there. And you know, I think those are
• 2:35:09
  definitely the way to teach the game better.
• 2:35:12
  Teaching a style of tackling at a youth level and bringing that
• 2:35:16
  up through into their high school and college days.
• 2:35:18
  If they're if they get that far, If you know how to tackle from
• 2:35:21
  the earliest days and and you know, you want to be on the
• 2:35:23
  head, head and shoulder area here on both sides, you know,
• 2:35:26
  and you know, leave that pretty smile out of that, that holy
• 2:35:29
  equation that it'll be that way. It takes practice.
• 2:35:32
  You know, the reps that you do in practice only can can
• 2:35:36
  translate into the game. And when you're in a situation
• 2:35:40
  to where you're going to make a tackle or a play, hopefully
• 2:35:43
  you're going to be coached enough and you practice enough
• 2:35:46
  to where you do it automatically.
• 2:35:47
  You just make a good sound tackle.
• 2:35:49
  So the youth coaches of today are as important as the rules
• 2:35:56
  and the officials and all the different things that go into
• 2:35:58
  it, because they're the ones teaching the better techniques.
• 2:36:02
  And I applaud these guys for doing that because they do it in
• 2:36:04
  a, in a, in a good way, obviously keeping safety in
• 2:36:07
  mind, keeping players on the field and keeping everybody
• 2:36:09
  healthy. And it, it, it is one of those
• 2:36:12
  things that the, the thing has got, I think it's gotten better
• 2:36:16
  over the course of time. And I'm a former NFL LPA
• 2:36:19
  executive committee member and you know, I, you know, my, my,
• 2:36:22
  my legacy is, is kind of down that line of I was on the
• 2:36:27
  executive committee when, when the player association we got
• 2:36:30
  free agency for the, for the, for the players in 93.
• 2:36:33
  So that that is is great, that monumental change of of free
• 2:36:38
  agency. And then there's other things
• 2:36:41
  that have happened with rules that and safety.
• 2:36:44
  Those are changes to the game that have propelled the NFL to
• 2:36:49
  be what it is today. I mean, there's there's just
• 2:36:52
  been tremendous uptick in that. However, now here's the other
• 2:36:56
  side. The defensive guys in the
• 2:36:59
  National Football League are at a complete disadvantage when
• 2:37:04
  you're outside of the box, okay, you can't touch anybody.
• 2:37:07
  You can't, you can't run with them after 5 yards, you can't,
• 2:37:10
  you can't bump into them. Otherwise you're going to throw
• 2:37:13
  a little, you have a flag. But on Sunday in the Super Bowl,
• 2:37:17
  you can run and bump and jump and you're almost, you're almost
• 2:37:21
  can really take them apart. But there weren't going to be
• 2:37:23
  any flags thrown on Sunday because they they were letting
• 2:37:26
  the players play. That's kind of back in the day.
• 2:37:28
  Like we had it where we we could, we could we could kind of
• 2:37:31
  play like that, but it was fair because both teams were were
• 2:37:35
  doing so on Sunday. So I'm I'm liking some of the
• 2:37:38
  note the the non contact as far as as keeping guys safe.
• 2:37:42
  The rules have been changed and obviously you're in more in
• 2:37:45
  favor for the offense in the NFL today.
• 2:37:48
  And you know, it's just it's just the way that way it is.
• 2:37:51
  And I see the fandom of looking to see explosive plays, big
• 2:37:54
  passing plays and, and, and touchdowns.
• 2:37:57
  That's all good. It's all good.
• 2:37:59
  But when you see a physical, tough football game like we saw
• 2:38:01
  on Sunday, it kind of takes you back to the the era of the 1980s
• 2:38:07
  New York Giants that that looked like a a normal Sunday for us.
• 2:38:11
  Gary, you look at the league. You see all the different rule
• 2:38:14
  changes and obviously with the CTE problem they've had over the
• 2:38:18
  years, we've had a lot of players come on this show and
• 2:38:21
  said, said to us and told us that the NFL has not taken care
• 2:38:25
  of the former players that have helped this game grow with
• 2:38:29
  obviously insurance policies. These guys have had knee
• 2:38:33
  problems, back problems, head trauma.
• 2:38:35
  They're not getting taken care of.
• 2:38:37
  Do you think that the NFL needs to step in and help the former
• 2:38:40
  players that helped this game grow as big as it's been over
• 2:38:43
  the last couple of years? Well, when we.
• 2:38:46
  All signed up to play on the line, on the, on the, on the
• 2:38:49
  field. We, we knew what we were signing
• 2:38:51
  up for, you know, as far as potential injuries and and so
• 2:38:54
  forth. I was one of those players that
• 2:38:58
  went through an entire 9 year NFL career and never had a major
• 2:39:02
  injury. I never had an issue And I was I
• 2:39:06
  was, you know, I was kind of built right and being able to
• 2:39:10
  stay on the field and never missed any time.
• 2:39:13
  So I it I had AI had a little little different perspective of
• 2:39:17
  the injury situation. But I do see guys and and even
• 2:39:20
  and even now I I'm I'm definitely of the opinion that
• 2:39:26
  through collective bargaining and what the NFLPA has been able
• 2:39:29
  to achieve, they have made significant strides though for
• 2:39:32
  players and benefits post playing and that are going on to
• 2:39:36
  you know I'm I'm my birthday is this month.
• 2:39:38
  I'm going to turn 64 my. Next.
• 2:39:42
  Next. Year this time at when I turn
• 2:39:45
  65, my my benefits from the NFL stop.
• 2:39:50
  As far as health benefits, there is what's called an NFL
• 2:39:54
  dedicated hospital network and we have a stipend every, for
• 2:39:57
  every player that, that that played on a, on a recurring
• 2:40:01
  every annual basis for primary care.
• 2:40:04
  And, and I just had, I wound up, I hit, I had, I had an accident
• 2:40:07
  in Louisiana in May. I was driving my my truck and
• 2:40:11
  anyways it was at night and I was going 70 miles an hour and I
• 2:40:15
  hit an alligator. On the highway and so when I was
• 2:40:19
  hitting the brake my left knee popped the popped the dash
• 2:40:22
  anyway so the next morning I walked up and I woke up and
• 2:40:25
  started walking and I stumbled and when I wound up they.
• 2:40:29
  Couldn't take me down to the NFL.
• 2:40:31
  But that damn alligator got me on the highway.
• 2:40:34
  And so I had a surgery just in just in November here just to
• 2:40:37
  clean out a scope for for my left knee.
• 2:40:40
  But I'm, I'm telling you this for one reason is that do the
• 2:40:43
  dedicated NFL, dedicated hospital network for former
• 2:40:45
  players, we each have a stipend. It's $25,000 per year for
• 2:40:51
  primary care, but you can think they'll also handle some
• 2:40:54
  surgical situations and things. So to that, I applaud the, the,
• 2:40:58
  the NFLPA and the NF and the NFL for providing that, that to us.
• 2:41:03
  But as I turned 65, those go away simply because the NFL and
• 2:41:08
  the PA figured out that, oh, these guys get, get Medicare.
• 2:41:11
  You know, that's probably where, that's probably where we'll go.
• 2:41:13
  So I, I, I, I'm one of those guys that the more we can do
• 2:41:18
  through the collective bargaining aspect of it for the
• 2:41:21
  betterment of players long term and an end of the future.
• 2:41:25
  Hopefully they, they have that. When I was with the leadership
• 2:41:29
  group of, of Gene Upshaw, when he was the executive director of
• 2:41:34
  the NFLPA and I admired Gene and his and his, you know, just
• 2:41:39
  toughness and grit and, and how he brought us along And he had
• 2:41:43
  he had a good old saying is that always remember the past, do
• 2:41:48
  well in the present and look to the future.
• 2:41:51
  All three areas of players are, are, are what he's talking
• 2:41:55
  about. And we don't ever want to lose
• 2:41:57
  sight of, of who got us to where we're, where we are today.
• 2:42:01
  You know, and I'm, I'm one of those guys looking down to the
• 2:42:03
  current players. Hey, keep us, keep us in your
• 2:42:05
  crosshairs when you start talking to the NFLPA, how can
• 2:42:07
  you improve our benefits, which will in turn be your benefits
• 2:42:12
  when when the time comes down the road?
• 2:42:14
  But over time, over time, the last couple of collective
• 2:42:16
  bargaining agreements, there have been, there have been
• 2:42:19
  significant improvements for former players.
• 2:42:21
  So I'm a little bit on the other side of the fence on that
• 2:42:24
  conversation. I, I do think that there are,
• 2:42:27
  there are available benefits for guys if they can you, if they
• 2:42:31
  can get to them and they know how to do that.
• 2:42:33
  Most everyone should because there's, it's simple NFL player
• 2:42:36
  benefits.com, go in there, login, you know, figure it out.
• 2:42:40
  I wonder if I could do that. I've never been an.
• 2:42:42
  NFL player maybe I could put if you can give it a try if you put
• 2:42:46
  in my future in the past. Do you want it?
• 2:42:49
  No. All one year worth from Gary
• 2:42:53
  reasons here you can have my $25,000 take care of yourself
• 2:43:01
  Gary. I've I've got 2 questions for
• 2:43:03
  you. One, why isn't Eli Manning a
• 2:43:05
  Hall of Famer and #2 the NFL is trying to bring in another game
• 2:43:11
  18 game season. What is the NFL trying to do
• 2:43:14
  here? Do you think this is right for
• 2:43:15
  the players? Is this protecting the players?
• 2:43:18
  You said just just a few moments ago the NFL is is making great
• 2:43:22
  strides on protecting the player.
• 2:43:24
  Now all of a sudden, ladies and gentlemen, you're you're hearing
• 2:43:28
  that the NFL wants to bring an 18 game season.
• 2:43:31
  Why do you think the NFL is proposing this to the players?
• 2:43:36
  One reason? Money.
• 2:43:37
  It all comes down to money and grabbing audience and grabbing
• 2:43:40
  viewership and and it's all about money and it always has
• 2:43:44
  been. So way back when it used to be a
• 2:43:46
  12 game season, way back when it used to be a 14 game season, way
• 2:43:49
  back when, 16 game season. This year, 17 when I was on the
• 2:43:53
  PA, an executive group, we were fighting and fighting and
• 2:43:56
  fighting. The expansion of this and, and
• 2:43:59
  you know what we went through as players in my era, we got paid,
• 2:44:04
  guess what, $400.00 a week for training camp, $400.00 We didn't
• 2:44:09
  get our salaries. Then we got $400.00 a week for
• 2:44:12
  training camp. Go think about that right there.
• 2:44:14
  You're, you're putting yourself out there in practice for 400
• 2:44:17
  bucks a week. My goodness.
• 2:44:19
  And you know how, how good does that feel?
• 2:44:22
  But that's changed a little bit. The NFL is trying to grow in in
• 2:44:25
  one way. It's finding ways to capture
• 2:44:28
  audience, give them more viewing opportunities.
• 2:44:30
  They've already grabbed Monday nights for Monday Night
• 2:44:33
  Football, Thursday night, Thursday Night Football, And
• 2:44:36
  then you have sometimes special edition Saturday and Sunday, but
• 2:44:39
  definitely Sunday. And you can see an early game, a
• 2:44:43
  late afternoon game and then an evening game on Sunday.
• 2:44:47
  And you know, they're trying to find those windows of
• 2:44:50
  opportunity because they grab audience.
• 2:44:53
  And the NFL is the number one opportunity for for partners and
• 2:44:57
  sponsors and brands to make an impact through through
• 2:45:00
  television, you know, in, in in today's world.
• 2:45:03
  And it is there's nothing getting close to it.
• 2:45:06
  So when you think about the impact that the NFL has has had,
• 2:45:10
  that's why there's so much revenue, there's so much growth
• 2:45:13
  and it's deserving, you know, the players going to get get
• 2:45:16
  their part and, and it's, and it's, it's something that the
• 2:45:19
  the brand are trying to capitalize on.
• 2:45:22
  So going to another ball game, first of all, I'll tell you
• 2:45:26
  this, as as players age, going through their careers, your body
• 2:45:31
  slow, the healing time slows down.
• 2:45:34
  So when you get to 252627, you're you're, you're, you're
• 2:45:39
  you. What used to be used to as a 22
• 2:45:41
  year old, you could pop right up and go.
• 2:45:43
  And, but when you get to that, that, that AX 2526, it starts to
• 2:45:47
  slow down. And as you get into your 30s, it
• 2:45:49
  starts to get take longer to get healed every single week I see.
• 2:45:54
  AI see an issue? Out there, I don't know what
• 2:45:56
  that that magical balance is of, of, of time before games and
• 2:46:01
  those kinds of things. They're different that they
• 2:46:04
  really are. It's it's different for a lot of
• 2:46:05
  guys to be able to do that. Recovery times are are
• 2:46:08
  challenging. And then you have, you know,
• 2:46:11
  just trying to put your body out there for an extra weekend and
• 2:46:17
  believe it or not, there will not be an agreement by the
• 2:46:20
  National, by the NFLPA without extending salaries one more week
• 2:46:27
  as far as, you know, whatever the gross is, I want to buy.
• 2:46:31
  Yeah, there's going to be a. There's going to be, if there is
• 2:46:33
  a game added to the, to the, to the schedule again, which they
• 2:46:37
  have now, there will be another bump in player salaries and
• 2:46:42
  it's, and it's not going to be organic.
• 2:46:44
  It's going to be automatic because they're just, they're
• 2:46:47
  just extending it and you have to pay them because you're going
• 2:46:50
  to have a right an opportunity to derive designated gross
• 2:46:56
  income from the broadcast and, and game, game game gate
• 2:47:00
  receipts and everything else. So I don't necessarily like it.
• 2:47:04
  I don't I don't like extending it.
• 2:47:06
  But you know what's better than being home on the couch for for
• 2:47:09
  as many weekends as we can watching the NFL?
• 2:47:12
  That that's the fans point of it.
• 2:47:13
  The fans don't understand what it takes to get ready every
• 2:47:16
  single week and how, how, how, how, how difficult it is from
• 2:47:19
  Sunday to Sunday just to get your body healed.
• 2:47:22
  Eli Manning, Why is he not? In the Hall of Fame, I think, I
• 2:47:26
  think, I think there's some monkeying around going.
• 2:47:28
  On too there there's some there's some players out there
• 2:47:31
  that are in in this this world that are not really coming to
• 2:47:37
  the realization that that he's a a bona fide deserved entry into
• 2:47:42
  the Hall of Fame. There's you look at his body of
• 2:47:44
  work. It is, it is comparable to more,
• 2:47:49
  if not it not most of the the enshrined already NFL
• 2:47:53
  quarterbacks that are in in the in the Hall of Fame and with his
• 2:47:58
  legacy of championships, basically how he conducted
• 2:48:01
  himself with one team. I, I, I can't, I can't say
• 2:48:07
  enough. I I was fortunate enough to
• 2:48:08
  still be inducted in the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame.
• 2:48:11
  Eli and I was the first New York former Giants player to be
• 2:48:14
  there. I had to I had to bring Eli
• 2:48:15
  along in and had had him there sitting there with him in in
• 2:48:20
  Louisiana a few years back when he was when he was brought in
• 2:48:23
  there and it was it was fun to visit with him.
• 2:48:25
  He he's just, you know, he and his brother.
• 2:48:27
  They're, they're those guys, they're they've got the world,
• 2:48:32
  you know, looking at them and they're, they're in a good spot,
• 2:48:36
  but there's a deserving spot that he needs to be.
• 2:48:39
  And it's a it's in that Hall of Fame next to his brother.
• 2:48:42
  And I think that that's going to happen sooner than later.
• 2:48:45
  Gary, we really appreciate the. Time we got to get you on the
• 2:48:48
  show. This was one of those
• 2:48:49
  interviews. We got to get to know you a
• 2:48:51
  little bit. I'm a little crazy.
• 2:48:53
  My interviewing could be a little outlandishly nuts, but I
• 2:48:57
  wanted to be professional tonight.
• 2:48:58
  I wanted to give you a professional, I don't interview
• 2:49:01
  and kind of give you my take on what I thought or what you think
• 2:49:05
  of your New York Giants. I am a Jet fan.
• 2:49:07
  Everyone of everybody else on this show besides Jopper or
• 2:49:11
  Giant fans, we have Fish, who you just met.
• 2:49:13
  Speedy and Tommy Poops over here.
• 2:49:16
  They're all Giant fans. I I do not hate the Giants.
• 2:49:20
  I never hated the Giants. I just can't stand the Giant
• 2:49:22
  fan. Hey, let me ask you a question.
• 2:49:25
  Here, Jets fan, are you on medication too?
• 2:49:27
  All the time, all the time. Man, I'm.
• 2:49:29
  On blood pressure, cholesterol, I mean, you name it, I'm on it.
• 2:49:32
  I have acid reflux. I mean, I'm on.
• 2:49:35
  I just, I was just looking, you know.
• 2:49:36
  The one little picture I can see of you, I thought that there
• 2:49:39
  might be a little something going on so.
• 2:49:45
  Well, I'm a little crazy and if you actually listen to the show
• 2:49:48
  and we've been a top 100 show in well, we're right there.
• 2:49:52
  I think we were ranked 1:15 today.
• 2:49:54
  The other day we were one O 6. We're one of the best shows
• 2:49:56
  right now in the country. Nathan reached out to us and he
• 2:49:59
  always gives us such great guessing he had.
• 2:50:02
  We had Howard Howard cross on last week from your giant team
• 2:50:06
  and now we had you. You're sensational.
• 2:50:08
  Keep up the good work and let me show you what I'm doing now.
• 2:50:11
  Also, I'm kind of paring down my broadcast work and, and, and
• 2:50:15
  that is all kind of by design. And really what I've I've done
• 2:50:19
  is I've put together a, a platform and it's called Reasons
• 2:50:24
  to Believe. I have a book that I've penned,
• 2:50:27
  it's coming out this spring, Reasons to Believe.
• 2:50:30
  And it all supports what I'm doing now.
• 2:50:33
  And what I basically do is I teach leaders how to perform
• 2:50:35
  under pressure. It's from using lessons that
• 2:50:38
  I've learned from my days playing in the NFL under
• 2:50:41
  championship environments, as well as 30 years in
• 2:50:44
  broadcasting. And, and also I've been an
• 2:50:46
  executive for for 20 plus years in in the corporate space.
• 2:50:49
  So I take that to companies, corporate environments and give
• 2:50:56
  them some messaging and, and and teach them along the way.
• 2:50:59
  So this platform Reasons to believe, it's it's out there now
• 2:51:02
  go to garyreasons.com and you can find out all about it and
• 2:51:07
  happy to visit with anybody, keynote speaker, event speaker,
• 2:51:10
  but also this reasons to believe platform, you're going to hear
• 2:51:13
  quite a bit about it upcoming year, this year, I believe, and
• 2:51:16
  along with this book and I'll be back, I'll be happy to come back
• 2:51:19
  on and put these out and we'll and we'll talk it up.
• 2:51:22
  OK, Absolutely, I think. You're a great personality.
• 2:51:26
  I think you have a lot to say and I think you can give so much
• 2:51:29
  information not only about football, but really the back
• 2:51:33
  end of, you know, careers and, and growing into a personality
• 2:51:37
  and, and, and really going after your goals.
• 2:51:39
  So why not? Gary, I, I love you, man.
• 2:51:42
  You've done everything that you've done in your career.
• 2:51:45
  You could see that you're a champion and, and you've built
• 2:51:48
  such a great rapport in this business outside of the game of
• 2:51:52
  football. It's, it's pretty cool.
• 2:51:53
  It's and, and I, I wish you nothing but the best and, and we
• 2:51:56
  definitely would like you like to get you on again.
• 2:51:58
  Thanks guys, I appreciate it. It's fun.
• 2:51:59
  Tonight. Absolutely, ladies.
• 2:52:02
  And gentlemen, 2 time Super Bowl champion, the one they call Gary
• 2:52:07
  Reasons, the man, the myth, the legend, sensational.
• 2:52:12
  Thank you, Nath. He was a great 1.
• 2:52:14
  He really was. I loved it, absolutely loved it.
• 2:52:18
  And looking forward to getting him on.
• 2:52:20
  We'll talk a little bit about his book.
• 2:52:21
  We'll speak and we'll deliver. Now ladies and gentlemen, we
• 2:52:26
  call this What's Beef? I'm a nut.
• 2:52:33
  I'm a nut. Do you know what?
• 2:52:36
  Beef is do you know? What beef is?
• 2:52:41
  Which one of your face? I fight you both together if you
• 2:52:43
  want. I fight you about 1 poor time
• 2:52:45
  behind my back. I fight you, stand on my foot.
• 2:52:47
  I fight you with my eyes close. What are you scared?
• 2:52:51
  Watch your mouth, I see. You guaranteed to.
• 2:52:54
  Be I see you one more time. You want to jerk me off?
• 2:53:04
  All right, guys, welcome to. Beef.
• 2:53:07
  A segment that we do. Whenever there's beef in the
• 2:53:10
  sports. World.
• 2:53:12
  Errol, we talked about it earlier today when I had you on
• 2:53:15
  the phone. Ben Rodlisberger was called out
• 2:53:20
  on the Cam Hayward podcast by Joey Porter Senior.
• 2:53:25
  I think we've got the clip. Speedy, why don't you roll the
• 2:53:29
  credits here? The Brotherhood because like.
• 2:53:32
  The shit the. 7. Do that.
• 2:53:34
  Did that we don't talk about. Is crazy.
• 2:53:40
  Like like out of anybody should talk, he should never grab a
• 2:53:43
  microphone and really talk Steeler business because if we
• 2:53:46
  talk and Steeler business, his ass is foul of all foul.
• 2:53:51
  Like the shit that he's did is foul of all foul.
• 2:53:54
  He's not a good teammate, won a Super Bowl, Winnie.
• 2:53:58
  But the person, he's just not a good teammate.
• 2:54:01
  Like he knows that. Anybody in the Steeler building
• 2:54:04
  knows that. But we protected him because
• 2:54:08
  I've only won one Super Bowl, and that was my quarterback.
• 2:54:11
  So do I love my quarterback? Yeah.
• 2:54:13
  But is he a good person? No.
• 2:54:16
  There it is. Errol after.
• 2:54:20
  This happened. There were a.
• 2:54:21
  Number of people that came out and supported what Joey Porter
• 2:54:25
  junior had to say, including Mason Rudolph, who was drafted
• 2:54:30
  as Ben Roethlisberger's backup. There were a few other ones,
• 2:54:35
  mostly because they're going after Tomlin.
• 2:54:38
  Roethlisberger kind of said that maybe it's time for Tomlin to
• 2:54:41
  step down. The fact that he went after the
• 2:54:43
  guy that might be the only one he couldn't talk about set off a
• 2:54:48
  Spieler's veteran. And a lot of guys, even though
• 2:54:50
  Cam Hayward stayed very quiet the entire time, we're not
• 2:54:54
  happy. So, Errol, what's the deal with
• 2:54:56
  this beef? Well, there's a lot of.
• 2:54:58
  Quarterbacks that we've heard are not liked by their
• 2:55:01
  teammates. Aaron Rodgers being another one,
• 2:55:03
  Brett Favre was another one. Philip Rivers, we've heard
• 2:55:07
  through the Grapevine people didn't like very, very much.
• 2:55:09
  Even though a lot of people that have been on this show said he
• 2:55:12
  was a good teammate. There are a lot of guys that
• 2:55:14
  you're not going to like playing over years and years of time on
• 2:55:19
  that roster. We all know that Ben
• 2:55:20
  Roethlisberger had rape charges. We all know that Ben
• 2:55:23
  Roethlisberger didn't take care of himself.
• 2:55:26
  He was riding a motorcycle when the team told him not to
• 2:55:29
  continue riding on a motorcycle. He got into a bad accident,
• 2:55:32
  almost hurt his career and hurt the the Pittsburgh Steelers and,
• 2:55:36
  and really the growth in the championship competitive team
• 2:55:39
  they were after that. I, I think obviously Joey Porter
• 2:55:43
  and a lot of guys didn't like him because of who he was and
• 2:55:46
  his personality. And, and we've heard this many,
• 2:55:49
  many times. Ben Roethlisberger wasn't a
• 2:55:51
  person, a leader in the locker room, but when he went out
• 2:55:54
  there, he played hard. He was an elite quarterback, he
• 2:55:57
  won championships, and I think this might hurt him as a first
• 2:56:00
  ballot Hall of Famer. He might not be a first ballot
• 2:56:02
  Hall of Famer because of the fact that his own teammates
• 2:56:04
  didn't like him, but was he one of the greats of this era?
• 2:56:07
  100%. Is Joey Porter wrong about him
• 2:56:10
  coming out and speaking about closed door kind of stuff?
• 2:56:13
  No, you know why? Because all Steeler players over
• 2:56:16
  the years have thrown teammates under the bus Antonio Brown,
• 2:56:19
  Le'veon Bell. How many guys do we have to
• 2:56:22
  mention? Juju Smith?
• 2:56:24
  Schuster, all these guys have something to say about the
• 2:56:27
  organization and why? Because Mike Tomlin was there.
• 2:56:31
  Mike Tomlin was a player's coach, but he didn't know how to
• 2:56:34
  control his locker room. These guys spoke when they
• 2:56:37
  wanted to speak and they they thrown teammates under the bus
• 2:56:41
  many, many times. We all know the the competition
• 2:56:43
  they've had over the years with the Bengals.
• 2:56:45
  Remember that perfect Devante, perfect hit against Antonio
• 2:56:49
  Brown and teammates came out and protected Antonio Brown?
• 2:56:53
  The same guy that locked himself into a house and threaten to
• 2:56:57
  kill people. All right, That same guy that
• 2:57:00
  Joey Porter and all these guys stuck up for Antonio Brown.
• 2:57:03
  How many times did we hear that Joey Porter said that Le'veon
• 2:57:06
  Bell is a good guy? This is the same guy that was
• 2:57:08
  raping his cousin at the age of 14.
• 2:57:11
  So am I going to sit here and believe that Joey Porter's wrong
• 2:57:15
  about Ben Roethlisberger probably knows something that we
• 2:57:19
  don't know. And I'm not saying Ben
• 2:57:21
  Roethlisberger is a good guy. I don't think any guy is a good
• 2:57:24
  guy when your team mates coming out and throwing you under the
• 2:57:27
  bus. But to say something like that
• 2:57:30
  on a podcast and when somebody can't protect himself, if you're
• 2:57:34
  a man, do it when Ben Roethlisberger's there, go on
• 2:57:37
  his show and call him out on his show.
• 2:57:39
  Don't go on another show and throw a man under the bus.
• 2:57:42
  I'm looking forward to hear what Ben Roethlisberger has to say
• 2:57:45
  about Joey Porter and his personality because we all know
• 2:57:48
  what Joey Porter was as a player.
• 2:57:49
  He was first of all, cheap shot type of hitter.
• 2:57:52
  He talked a lot of crap. He spoke a lot, lot of crap
• 2:57:56
  about players on his own roster. And by the way, he's thrown
• 2:57:59
  coaches under the bus on that same roster on the Pittsburgh
• 2:58:02
  Steelers and now his own son is the starting corner on that
• 2:58:06
  roster. So I I don't know if I'm going
• 2:58:08
  to take everything that Joey Porter said.
• 2:58:11
  Am I going to judge what he said about Ben Roethlisberger?
• 2:58:14
  We already know that Ben Roethlisberger is not a good guy
• 2:58:18
  after all the things that he's done on and off the the football
• 2:58:20
  field. So he's not he's probably not
• 2:58:22
  lying. I just think it was the wrong
• 2:58:24
  platform to attack somebody that wasn't there to defend himself.
• 2:58:28
  We talked about it with the the. Seahawks with Russell Wilson
• 2:58:31
  versus the Legion of Boom and that whole locker room fallout.
• 2:58:34
  And we have a defense that was that good, like the steel the
• 2:58:36
  Steelers were even then, even before Mike Tumlin got there
• 2:58:39
  with Bill Cower, there was a lot of really good players on that
• 2:58:41
  team and obviously a lot of outspoken personalities on that
• 2:58:44
  team. In addition to Joey Porter, you
• 2:58:46
  also have guys like Ike Taylor, who said a lot of things since
• 2:58:48
  he retired and joined NFL Network and a bunch of other
• 2:58:51
  platforms. Brian McFadden, who's the other
• 2:58:52
  opposite corner has been on CBS Sports and he's been pretty out
• 2:58:56
  there too. But Porter was the one that on
• 2:58:58
  that team that was kind of an instigator in his own right to
• 2:59:01
  Tommy and I were talking about the we were talking about him as
• 2:59:04
  a coach too, when he was an assistant coach under Tomlin in
• 2:59:07
  that Steelers Bengals playoff game.
• 2:59:09
  I believe it was Reggie Nelson was he was instigating on the
• 2:59:11
  sideline and believe in the second.
• 2:59:14
  Quarter of that game. And so there was always a little
• 2:59:17
  bit of that bad blood going there.
• 2:59:19
  Now, I again, I'm going to believe the majority when it
• 2:59:21
  comes to Ben Roethlisberger obviously not being a good guy,
• 2:59:24
  which, again, he obviously should have been suspended a lot
• 2:59:26
  longer than four games for those rape charges at the time.
• 2:59:28
  But the NFL wasn't really on the and the Steelers were protected.
• 2:59:32
  Yeah, the NFL wasn't really on the.
• 2:59:34
  Let's suspend him for massive long periods of time, really
• 2:59:36
  until the domestic violence instances really piled up,
• 2:59:39
  starting with Ray Rice. What I don't understand is.
• 2:59:41
  He came out, he said this is my quarterback, and we tried to
• 2:59:44
  protect him. We tried to keep everything
• 2:59:46
  outside of the locker room, inside of the locker room.
• 2:59:48
  OK, then why are you speaking about it now?
• 2:59:51
  Why are you throwing this guy under the bus now that you know,
• 2:59:54
  you're not even in the locker room anymore?
• 2:59:56
  You guys go now there's going to be times where the team's going
• 3:00:00
  to have special opportunity that that they're going to have, what
• 3:00:03
  do they call it? Anniversaries, where
• 3:00:06
  championship anniversaries. How is that going to work when
• 3:00:09
  you have Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback, one of the leaders
• 3:00:12
  of the team, going to actually go into a locker room or going?
• 3:00:16
  To an anniversary dinner with these guys that are speaking
• 3:00:19
  garbage and trash about them. I don't think it's going to
• 3:00:21
  work. I think it affects, you know,
• 3:00:23
  affects the anniversary thing and I just don't think it's the
• 3:00:26
  right time to do it not at this time, not during the Super Bowl,
• 3:00:30
  not coming out on another podcast.
• 3:00:31
  If you're going to call somebody out, call him out on his own
• 3:00:34
  podcast, invite yourself on there and just have a a
• 3:00:37
  conversation with Ben. But listen, I don't think Ben is
• 3:00:40
  is a good person. I don't know him personally, so
• 3:00:43
  I don't know, but I've heard through the Grapevine he's not
• 3:00:46
  very, very good. And it just comes from a
• 3:00:48
  different culture. And, and honestly, I I do
• 3:00:51
  believe that in Pittsburgh, they allowed their players to do
• 3:00:54
  whatever the hell they wanted. Everybody says that Tomlin was a
• 3:00:57
  player's coach. Well, look at the bad players
• 3:01:00
  he's had on those teams in those organizations.
• 3:01:02
  Look at George Pickens, he goes to another organization.
• 3:01:05
  He's one of the best wide receivers in the NFL.
• 3:01:07
  He never got a chance to be that player with Mike Tomlin.
• 3:01:11
  He leaves. He is.
• 3:01:12
  So do you think it's the player or is it Mike Tomlin not be able
• 3:01:17
  to control his players with the different personalities in that
• 3:01:21
  locker room? That's all I'm saying.
• 3:01:22
  Yeah, I think the other thing too is Ben.
• 3:01:23
  Roethlisberger also went to another extreme with Tomlin.
• 3:01:25
  I think a lot of the younger players are going to defend him
• 3:01:28
  more. Porter was one that played with
• 3:01:30
  Coward too, so he obviously played with Tomlin.
• 3:01:33
  But again, he still has the allegiance of the previous
• 3:01:35
  regime too. And a lot of the, I think the
• 3:01:37
  most outspoken ones against Ben Roethlisberger have been all
• 3:01:40
  those like I guess the nuttiest of the nuts with Antonio Brown,
• 3:01:45
  with Le'veon Bell, Even Rashard Mendenhall, we talked about
• 3:01:47
  another story with him like 3 years ago with saying something
• 3:01:50
  sexist too. Like those are the ones.
• 3:01:52
  That have been the most against. Ben Roethlisberger on the
• 3:01:54
  offensive side, I think Porter's kind of the leader of that on
• 3:01:56
  the defensive side. But I think there is a little
• 3:01:58
  bit of a generational guy. But like you said, if there's
• 3:02:00
  any ever anniversary for that Super Bowl team, it's going to
• 3:02:02
  be very awkward. Do you think that he even?
• 3:02:05
  Gives a crap what these guys think of him.
• 3:02:07
  I, I probably not, but I, I think if I was Ben
• 3:02:10
  Roethlisberger and I was a part of this Pittsburgh Steelers
• 3:02:13
  greatness for so many years and I was the face of that
• 3:02:17
  greatness, I'm not going to sit here and listen to Joey Porter
• 3:02:20
  speak bad about me. I'm a Hall of Famer, not you,
• 3:02:22
  Joey. I'm going to be, I'm going to
• 3:02:24
  be, I'm going to be inducted into Canton.
• 3:02:27
  You're not Why? Why is anybody going to listen
• 3:02:30
  to you when I was the superstar player of that a team in that
• 3:02:32
  organization for so many great years.
• 3:02:34
  So and without Joey Porter or with Joey Porter, they weren't a
• 3:02:38
  championship team. If Ben Roethlisberger wasn't
• 3:02:41
  there, they don't win the championships or the
• 3:02:44
  championship. The first championship really
• 3:02:46
  had nothing to do with him, but the second one had everything to
• 3:02:49
  do with Ben Roethlisberger. So I I.
• 3:02:51
  Just I, I. Think Joey Porter did it in a
• 3:02:54
  way where I think it's I think he stabbed him in the back.
• 3:02:58
  I think that was the wrong way of doing it.
• 3:02:59
  If you're going to call somebody out, you know, Ben
• 3:03:02
  Roethlisberger has a podcast. Invite yourself on and ask him,
• 3:03:05
  call him out. He's like, do you think you are
• 3:03:07
  a good teammate? Ben will tell you the truth and,
• 3:03:10
  and that might have been more interesting to see how they
• 3:03:13
  would react against each other than him going on another
• 3:03:16
  podcast and throwing the man under the bus where he has no
• 3:03:19
  way of protecting himself. I hate that because I've heard,
• 3:03:23
  and I'm going to say this truthfully, I have listened to
• 3:03:26
  other podcasts, people that I know that have thrown me under
• 3:03:29
  the bus, thrown me under the bus and I've listened to it.
• 3:03:33
  I never took a shot at them at any point of their careers.
• 3:03:37
  They came out and took a shot at me and nonchalantly and thought
• 3:03:40
  that I wasn't going to hear it and now I can throw them under
• 3:03:44
  the bus and attack him. Now do I think that was foul?
• 3:03:47
  Absolutely. Why?
• 3:03:48
  If you have something to say about me, come on my show.
• 3:03:50
  But you don't have the balls to come on this show because you
• 3:03:53
  know what's going to happen if you do.
• 3:03:54
  I'm going to counter on you and I'm going to call you out on
• 3:03:57
  everything that you said. So I unfortunately, some guys
• 3:04:01
  hide behind a mic and others don't need to hide up behind a
• 3:04:05
  mic. They'll say what they feel.
• 3:04:06
  I think Ben would have loved to attack or even go back and forth
• 3:04:12
  with a guy like Joey Porter in person on a mic.
• 3:04:16
  I just Joey, I think Joey Porter was foul doing it the way he did
• 3:04:19
  it. That's all I'm going to say.
• 3:04:21
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, when we come back, we got let's
• 3:04:24
  parlay. We got a new segment.
• 3:04:27
  I'm a man, I'm 40. And what's that smell?
• 3:04:30
  But first, a sports minute with the fish.
• 3:04:35
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• 3:04:37
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• 3:04:40
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• 3:04:42
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• 3:04:44
  tonight. Son of golfing legend Tiger
• 3:04:47
  Woods, Charlie Woods announced on Instagram on Tuesday that he
• 3:04:50
  has committed to play golf in college for Florida State
• 3:04:53
  University when he's eligible in 2027.
• 3:04:56
  Woods, who is dominating high school golf and has been good
• 3:04:58
  and amateur appearances, helped the North Palm Beach elite
• 3:05:01
  private school, The Benjamin School, win their second one, A
• 3:05:04
  state championship in Florida in the past three seasons since
• 3:05:08
  Wood, Woods has been the program.
• 3:05:10
  Woods was a first team Junior All American and is ranked in
• 3:05:14
  the top ten of the class of 2027 in the American Junior Golf
• 3:05:17
  Association recruiting rankings. While no one is expecting the
• 3:05:21
  younger Woods to match his fifteen time major champion
• 3:05:24
  winning father, big things are expected of Charlie who has
• 3:05:28
  quite a large pair of shoes to fill.
• 3:05:30
  Some interesting news from the MLB and Netflix broke Wednesday
• 3:05:34
  as they gear up for the first ever MLB baseball broadcast on
• 3:05:37
  Netflix when the streaming giant will have the San Francisco
• 3:05:40
  Giants host the New York Yankees for Opening Day on March 25th.
• 3:05:44
  Netflix, who has already signed basketball personality Elle
• 3:05:47
  Duncan to be their primary studio host for all sports
• 3:05:51
  including baseball, are trying to add some legitimate star
• 3:05:54
  power to the pre and post game broadcasts, according to
• 3:05:57
  Athletics, Andrew Marsh. And Netflix is trying to get
• 3:05:59
  legendary slugger Barry Bonds and Hall of Fame Yankees pitcher
• 3:06:03
  CC Sabathia for the inaugural broadcast for the boys at
• 3:06:07
  Tadoom. Netflix is flying a little loose
• 3:06:09
  with their baseball coverage as they try to get the old time
• 3:06:11
  home run king and one of the only four lefties to ever throw
• 3:06:14
  3000 strikeouts. But they also have no play by
• 3:06:17
  play team so far for the season with Opening Day only six weeks
• 3:06:21
  away. While CC has been active in the
• 3:06:23
  media after his career as a regular and MLB Networks
• 3:06:26
  Clubhouse edition and hosted a very successful podcast, R2C2
• 3:06:30
  with Ryan Ruko, Bonds has been largely out of the media and has
• 3:06:34
  been viewed as a pariah due to his alleged steroid use, which
• 3:06:37
  has kept him out of the Hall of Fame despite some of the best
• 3:06:39
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• 3:06:43
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• 3:06:46
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  It it's been a crazy one. Who would have thought?
• 3:08:37
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• 3:08:41
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• 3:08:44
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• 3:08:48
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• 3:08:50
  This show has gone fluently. This show, this show is really
• 3:08:54
  been a really good show for nothing that's going on in
• 3:08:58
  sports. Think about it.
• 3:08:58
  The hockey season is on hold because of the Olympics.
• 3:09:02
  The football season's now over. We're not we're not going to
• 3:09:05
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• 3:09:08
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• 3:09:10
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• 3:09:13
  So there's really nothing about that.
• 3:09:15
  And March Madness is not for another 4 weeks.
• 3:09:18
  So there's nothing. There's nothing.
• 3:09:22
  It's just basketball right now in the Olympics.
• 3:09:24
  I mean, we could speak about the Olympics.
• 3:09:26
  I mean, my girlfriend was watching curling.
• 3:09:28
  We're watching curling right now.
• 3:09:30
  Tommy's asking me how this game is actually played.
• 3:09:32
  So he's trying to figure it out. But it's a definitely a unique
• 3:09:36
  sport. I would love to curl.
• 3:09:38
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• 3:09:41
  let me tell you. So it takes strategy, it takes
• 3:09:44
  understanding, It takes years of competitive nature to be
• 3:09:48
  competitive in this game. So it's not as easy as it seems.
• 3:09:51
  Speaking of easy, this is not easy when it comes to
• 3:09:54
  handicapping. We call this Let's parlay.
• 3:10:05
  Parlay. It's time for Let's parlay.
• 3:10:09
  All right, ladies, and. Gentlemen, we're waiting for
• 3:10:12
  Reno. Tommy.
• 3:10:14
  I mean, sorry, Reno. Johnny.
• 3:10:16
  I mean, he might be Tommy at the end of this whole segment,
• 3:10:19
  that's for sure. He's hanging out with his son.
• 3:10:23
  He's probably running around chasing out.
• 3:10:25
  There he is. He reappears, ladies and
• 3:10:28
  gentlemen, as Reno. Johnny is back on with us since
• 3:10:34
  Super Bowl 60. Reno.
• 3:10:37
  What's up, buddy? Living.
• 3:10:38
  Living large. Yeah.
• 3:10:39
  Yeah, man, I killed it. That Super Bowl.
• 3:10:41
  I made a lot of money. Maybe for people that fold that
• 3:10:45
  tailed right, we hit all the Cooper Cup props were in the hit
• 3:10:48
  in the first half. Never really in question as far
• 3:10:54
  as who's going to win that game. That runs me up to 17 and three
• 3:10:58
  ATS last 20 Super Bowls, I I hear that's pretty good.
• 3:11:02
  Yeah, that's pretty damn good. And.
• 3:11:03
  And by the way, just so you guys know on let's parlay actually
• 3:11:09
  money line mania, you guys are almost at 79% for early this
• 3:11:15
  year. So last year you ended the
• 3:11:17
  season or the year with over 70%.
• 3:11:20
  This year you're over. You guys are over 78%.
• 3:11:24
  Let's hit for a clear 80 all season long.
• 3:11:26
  Could you imagine that 80% on picks throughout the year?
• 3:11:30
  That's pretty damn great, man. I I mean it.
• 3:11:33
  So anybody that does, yeah, it is unheard of.
• 3:11:36
  Anybody that? Doesn't know this game.
• 3:11:37
  It's pretty simple. They're going to give you 4
• 3:11:40
  picks, he's going to give you his his top three picks and his
• 3:11:44
  last one will be a parlay for you guys to bet on.
• 3:11:47
  Are you ready, Reno? Johnny I.
• 3:11:50
  Am Yeah, we're going to we're. Actually going to start off with
• 3:11:52
  a game that is about the tip right now.
• 3:11:55
  It's going to be Long Beach out in California to take them on
• 3:11:59
  the money line. You probably get a good live
• 3:12:01
  action run of the game there. We just tip off about a minute
• 3:12:03
  and a half ago. They're they're coming in as
• 3:12:06
  small favorites. They won eight games all season
• 3:12:08
  long. I think this kind of
• 3:12:09
  quintessential begging for visitor money from the books.
• 3:12:13
  I'm going to go contrarian, take Long Beach at home on the money
• 3:12:16
  line thing. They get the job done.
• 3:12:17
  We're going to head out to Friday night hoops that man
• 3:12:21
  after basketball. We are deep diving, getting
• 3:12:23
  ready for March Madness. I'll be in Vegas first weekend
• 3:12:27
  of March. Anybody want to come up?
• 3:12:29
  Say hi, John. And we know we have a booth out
• 3:12:31
  there at Circa, so I'll be out there.
• 3:12:33
  But Friday we're going to head to college basketball.
• 3:12:36
  We're going to head to George Washington.
• 3:12:39
  Is that Saturday morning game very nice?
• 3:12:44
  I. Think it's a Friday game?
• 3:12:46
  George Washington at home versus George Mason.
• 3:12:48
  It's another one of those spots for George Mason comes in as a
• 3:12:51
  much better team on the metrics, but they're only 2 1/2 point
• 3:12:54
  favorites. And then the college basketball,
• 3:12:56
  that typically doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us.
• 3:12:59
  So we're going to take the home team on that.
• 3:13:01
  We're going to take them on the money line and get a little bit
• 3:13:03
  plus money. I think that's going to be a
• 3:13:04
  good way to go. And then we're going to head out
• 3:13:06
  to Miami of Ohio, the only undefeated team in college
• 3:13:11
  basketball. 24 and OA lot of close games this this Miami of
• 3:13:17
  Ohio team probably should have lost a few games.
• 3:13:24
  Over the year they they've, they've been in.
• 3:13:26
  Overtime sometimes and and they've kind of been able to get
• 3:13:29
  out of their, you know, out of their own way on.
• 3:13:32
  Friday night, I'm not going to take.
• 3:13:33
  Them because they're going to lay a little bit too much, but I
• 3:13:36
  do think we're going to get a little bit of value in the over.
• 3:13:38
  Their defense has at times given up plenty of points to opponents
• 3:13:43
  to get up 74 to Marshall, which is not a very good team.
• 3:13:46
  They've given up 84 to UMass. They gave up one O 1 to Kent
• 3:13:51
  State on the road and to win one O 2 to Buffalo all games that
• 3:13:54
  they've won. But their offense has just
• 3:13:56
  scored a little bit more than that.
• 3:13:57
  So I'm going to take them to win this game.
• 3:14:00
  I can't lay the point. So I might do a little two piece
• 3:14:03
  money line over, but what I'm going to do for my official play
• 3:14:06
  is just take the over 163.5 on Miami of Ohio.
• 3:14:10
  They are the much better team, but I think that there's going
• 3:14:13
  to be a lot of points either way and then we're going to head to
• 3:14:16
  the Mountain West. Maybe my best conference in in
• 3:14:20
  college basketball, it's I grew up around the mountain W Nevada
• 3:14:23
  was part of the wack before they went to the Mountain West.
• 3:14:26
  I'm going to take UNLV plus 10.5 on the road in Boise.
• 3:14:31
  This is a down UNLV team. This is a down Boise State team.
• 3:14:36
  I just think it's too many points a double digits for UNLV.
• 3:14:39
  They probably got the best player on the court and Gibbs,
• 3:14:42
  Longhorn averaging 18.7 points per game.
• 3:14:46
  I do think he's going to play a factor here.
• 3:14:48
  They keep this game close. This is a one.
• 3:14:51
  This is a one team tournament, team conference here this year,
• 3:14:55
  in the last couple years, they've got 2-3, four teams, not
• 3:14:58
  West. This year is going to be 1 time,
• 3:15:00
  1 winner take all. So definitely a down year is a
• 3:15:03
  conference. But I do think this game stays a
• 3:15:05
  little bit closer. And you know, we might squeak
• 3:15:08
  out the overtime, the upset win, but I'm going to take the points
• 3:15:10
  at 10 1/2. Wow, look.
• 3:15:13
  At you, man. You flow, it's right off the
• 3:15:15
  lips. Tonight is is the is the baby
• 3:15:18
  sleeping? We just put the.
• 3:15:20
  Baby to sleep. We have a he's 3 now.
• 3:15:22
  We keep calling the baby, but he's 3 now.
• 3:15:24
  He's a baby man He's. A baby.
• 3:15:27
  He's a he's a little man. Though he's throwing punches
• 3:15:29
  nowadays. So yeah, we, we have a little
• 3:15:31
  rich one night he likes to give me hugs and kisses and that's
• 3:15:34
  about a 5 minute interchange that he just wants to hug and
• 3:15:37
  kiss and hug. He's he's, he's, he's stalling.
• 3:15:40
  He don't want to go sleep yet. But yeah, he just got put down
• 3:15:42
  South a couple. I promise.
• 3:15:45
  Long Beach game on my phone because it's on ESPN Plus and I
• 3:15:48
  can watch games, I bet. So what you're going to do is
• 3:15:50
  you're going. To sit with the wife, watch a
• 3:15:52
  movie, and then on your phone watch the games, right?
• 3:15:55
  That's it, man. I've been.
• 3:15:56
  I've been, I've. Been working hard all week so
• 3:15:58
  we're going to take it easy About small school.
• 3:16:00
  The small school college. Basketball is the best part of
• 3:16:02
  the ESPN. Plus get some wine you.
• 3:16:05
  Know get some nookie, you know you got to do that you know you
• 3:16:07
  got to do that tonight. It's one of those nights, you
• 3:16:10
  know, it's, you know, we'll. See how much we get there?
• 3:16:13
  But before you doze. Off.
• 3:16:17
  I want to get a chance. I haven't had a chance to watch
• 3:16:21
  The Wrecking Crew, but I watched What is that the maid movie?
• 3:16:25
  What's it called? What was that movie with the two
• 3:16:28
  blonde girls? The housemaid.
• 3:16:32
  Dude that. Movie.
• 3:16:34
  That movie was a creeper. Dude, that was a so I actually I
• 3:16:37
  read the book. My wife is a big fan of the
• 3:16:39
  books and the author, so she was like, I want to go see this
• 3:16:41
  movie. So I had three weeks to read the
• 3:16:44
  book. I do audio books.
• 3:16:45
  OK, I'm lazy about it. I can't read.
• 3:16:47
  But yeah, I went. We want to watch the movie in
• 3:16:49
  theaters. I watched, I read the book.
• 3:16:51
  It got me. It's catchy, you know, it's a
• 3:16:55
  good movie. It's nice to look at.
• 3:16:57
  I will tell you this. Me and my.
• 3:16:58
  Girlfriend were watching it the other day, we sat and she kept
• 3:17:02
  me up till 3:00 in the morning and she was like on her tippy
• 3:17:05
  toes and I'm looking at them like what the hell is going on
• 3:17:07
  in this movie? She's crazy, he's crazy.
• 3:17:10
  Then it's a game. I didn't know what was going on.
• 3:17:13
  I don't want to tell anybody the story if you never saw it, but
• 3:17:17
  it is one of the most ridiculously crazy movies you
• 3:17:21
  will ever see and it's a must watch if you've never seen it.
• 3:17:24
  It's 2. It's a long movie.
• 3:17:26
  It's two hours and 15 minutes. It's worth the suspense.
• 3:17:29
  It's just one of the craziest movies you'll ever see.
• 3:17:33
  It's good, and they're actually making a.
• 3:17:34
  Second part of it. So yeah, I recommend it.
• 3:17:37
  It's a chick flick quote UN quote.
• 3:17:38
  But yeah, I enjoyed myself as good movie.
• 3:17:40
  So I'm probably going to watch that new Bert Kreischer show.
• 3:17:43
  Big fan of his on Netflix. So at Bert's listen, I'm
• 3:17:47
  plugging in here. So if you want to give me a
• 3:17:49
  followers good old Bert as we. I want to watch the Wrecking
• 3:17:53
  Crew. That's that's the next thing I'm
• 3:17:55
  watching on Apple or Prime, whatever it's on.
• 3:17:58
  I want to see that movie so I'll get a chance to see it.
• 3:18:02
  I don't know if I'm going to like it, but it the storyline
• 3:18:04
  seems interesting. Anyways, thank you, Reno.
• 3:18:06
  Johnny, we'll talk to you next week.
• 3:18:08
  We'll talk next week, boys, later.
• 3:18:10
  Reno, Johnny Watching. The games on his phone and
• 3:18:14
  hanging out with the wife and hopefully get some nookie
• 3:18:16
  tonight. I mean, you would hope, I mean.
• 3:18:22
  I listen. I'm not going to.
• 3:18:23
  Lie to you guys on this show. I always tell the truth.
• 3:18:27
  So if you're hanging out with the wife, you know, we're
• 3:18:29
  hanging out with the girl and you're watching a movie, The
• 3:18:31
  first thing you're thinking about is during the movie kind
• 3:18:35
  of move me and Brittany don't. She's got to watch the whole
• 3:18:37
  movie and she's got to understand it.
• 3:18:38
  She sometimes looks at me and she's like, do you get what's
• 3:18:41
  going on? And I'm like, this is one.
• 3:18:43
  That movie was one of the most craziest movies I've ever seen.
• 3:18:48
  And, and, and I'm watching and I'm like, OK, he seems nice.
• 3:18:52
  No, he's crazy. Errol, we saw it.
• 3:18:55
  We saw it. Too, And I the twist of how it
• 3:18:59
  how like the last half hour ever goes.
• 3:19:00
  I didn't see that coming in the movie.
• 3:19:02
  Well, I did. Because I said he was too nice.
• 3:19:05
  That guy is way too nice. But I didn't think that she was
• 3:19:10
  not. That's what I'm saying that.
• 3:19:11
  Yeah, I don't think we should ruin it for everybody, but like
• 3:19:14
  that twist was, that's wild. Wild.
• 3:19:17
  Wild movie, definitely worth a watch and Amanda Seyfried is she
• 3:19:20
  was great but also fantastic. She was great.
• 3:19:23
  She was better than Sweeney let. Me tell you way better well you
• 3:19:25
  know she's a more experienced. Actor but Errol I think we have
• 3:19:28
  we're going to have an argument yes, I think right now ladies
• 3:19:31
  and. Gentlemen, we have a new
• 3:19:32
  segment. We call this I'm a Man, I'm 40.
• 3:19:35
  Hi, I'm a Mother. Man, mother, man, man.
• 3:19:40
  And now it's time for I'm a man. I'm a man.
• 3:19:44
  I'm 40, suck my. Indo Scoop.
• 3:19:48
  Sits on the shitter. OK, 40.
• 3:19:50
  Year old Indo. Welcome.
• 3:19:53
  To the lovely segment. I'm a man I'm 40.
• 3:19:58
  This is something based on the famous quote from the departed
• 3:20:03
  coach from Oklahoma State this year, Mike Gundy, supporting a
• 3:20:07
  young player who was attacked by the media.
• 3:20:10
  Playing the role of attacking a young player in the media will
• 3:20:13
  be Errol Marx, who is, you know, a little bit above the number
• 3:20:19
  40. Playing the role of the
• 3:20:21
  defendant of the young player of the Mike Gundy will be myself,
• 3:20:25
  Aaron Fishman, because I am a man.
• 3:20:27
  And I'm 40 Errol Mr. Will Campbell had a tough game in the
• 3:20:32
  Super Bowl. How do you feel about Mr.
• 3:20:35
  Campbell? He had a tough game against.
• 3:20:37
  The charges, he had a tough game against the Texans and he had of
• 3:20:39
  a tough game against the Broncos.
• 3:20:41
  Let's be honest, when you look at the Patriots schedule this
• 3:20:44
  year, yes, he's a rookie. Yes, when you look at this, the
• 3:20:47
  the way they played this year, they were 14 and 3.
• 3:20:50
  You would say, wow, the offensive line play well, who
• 3:20:53
  did they beat this year? If you look at the schedule,
• 3:20:56
  they lost against the Raiders, which by the way, Max Crosby
• 3:20:59
  rained fire on him during that game.
• 3:21:02
  And then if you look at the season as a whole, they they
• 3:21:05
  didn't play top end talent. They played The Jets twice.
• 3:21:08
  They played Miami twice. These aren't world break
• 3:21:12
  defenses. I, I just when I look at what he
• 3:21:15
  what he is as a player, he had short arms coming out of the
• 3:21:18
  draft. That was something that they
• 3:21:19
  said he had great footwork, his technique, you know, mediocre.
• 3:21:24
  They said there was stuff about him that could work in the NFL
• 3:21:28
  and there's stuff about him that might not work in the NFL.
• 3:21:31
  And when he gets bum rushed by these more faster, more talented
• 3:21:35
  linebackers or defensive lineman, he could be beaten on
• 3:21:38
  the outside. A lot of experts thought that he
• 3:21:40
  would be a good offensive tackle, might not be a great
• 3:21:44
  offensive tackle. I thought that the Patriots did
• 3:21:48
  not reach on him. He he was the best tackle in the
• 3:21:50
  class, but well, that's what they said.
• 3:21:53
  But Menbu looks like he's the better one.
• 3:21:55
  But the fact here is against good defensive talent this year,
• 3:22:00
  especially in the playoffs, he was beaten many, many times to
• 3:22:03
  the outside and even sometimes to the inside.
• 3:22:06
  When it when it came down to good defenses and defenses that
• 3:22:09
  could put pressure on him on the outside, he had problems
• 3:22:12
  stopping him. I, I, I'm not saying he's a bad
• 3:22:14
  offensive line lineman, but in a lead offensive lineman, will he
• 3:22:18
  be an elite offensive lineman? I don't know.
• 3:22:20
  I, I, I, I begged a different. There's a guy that reminds me of
• 3:22:24
  him very, very much. Remember Jonah?
• 3:22:26
  Jonah Williams? Yeah, I liked him.
• 3:22:29
  A lot from the Bengals. Remember when they drafted him,
• 3:22:32
  very highly profiled came, I think it was Alabama, right?
• 3:22:35
  Everybody thought it was a Neil. Everybody said that this guy was
• 3:22:38
  going to be a great tackle. This guy was going to be
• 3:22:40
  sensational and he had ups and downs seasons.
• 3:22:44
  There were stuff about it and some people thought that his
• 3:22:47
  hands were too small, that his technique wasn't as good in the
• 3:22:51
  NFL, wouldn't fit in the NFL, and they were right about him.
• 3:22:54
  We have seen this year against great offensive, I mean
• 3:22:57
  defensive lineman, he's had problems stopping him.
• 3:22:59
  Well, you know what? I'm a.
• 3:23:01
  Man, I'm 40, stop going after such a young buck come after me.
• 3:23:06
  I got I got plenty to say in support.
• 3:23:09
  I will. Campbell didn't work.
• 3:23:10
  Out. His rookie season at the end of
• 3:23:12
  the year, got hurt towards MCL. Great on it, fought through it,
• 3:23:16
  didn't complain. Not a complainer.
• 3:23:18
  Will Campbell gave up only 5 sacks in the previous 13 games.
• 3:23:23
  That's about one sack every three games.
• 3:23:26
  That's not terrible for a first year player.
• 3:23:29
  Now in the run game, he was very effective.
• 3:23:31
  If you go back to the draft, he had one of the highest relative
• 3:23:34
  athletic scores. You know that thing that you
• 3:23:36
  know, Calvin, they always show that Calvin Johnson maxed out
• 3:23:40
  with the this big circle and like the trapezoid or like the
• 3:23:43
  Pentagon or whatever the shape that is inside it.
• 3:23:46
  Well, guess what? He's the best alignment version
• 3:23:49
  of that they seen in a long time, except he has a different
• 3:23:51
  type of athleticism. He doesn't realize yet is a
• 3:23:55
  rookie how he's supposed to pass it.
• 3:23:57
  That's what experts across the Internet have been saying.
• 3:23:59
  He's just a young guy. You shouldn't be coming after
• 3:24:02
  him. He's a rookie.
• 3:24:03
  He's being put in a spot. There should have been a veteran
• 3:24:05
  next to him that maybe helped them out a little bit.
• 3:24:08
  Maybe they should have chipped a little bit, Assistant coach of
• 3:24:11
  the year Josh McDaniels. Maybe you should have had a
• 3:24:14
  little bit better protection schemes in the playoffs.
• 3:24:17
  Josh McDaniels. I'm not blaming Will Campbell
• 3:24:21
  when he was banged up for getting toasted by the best
• 3:24:24
  defense we've seen. Maybe top three defense since
• 3:24:27
  2000. Top five for sure.
• 3:24:31
  Vegas. Miami Pittsburgh wasn't the same
• 3:24:34
  defense they've been. Carolina early in the season
• 3:24:36
  wasn't a great defense. Buffalo's been up and down.
• 3:24:39
  The Saints were horrible. Tennessee wasn't good.
• 3:24:42
  Cleveland was up and down all season long.
• 3:24:44
  They had Miles Garrett and the the rookie defensive player of
• 3:24:47
  the year. The Atlanta Falcons up and down
• 3:24:50
  all season. Tampa was horrible.
• 3:24:52
  The Jets defense was horrible. Cincinnati's defense horrible.
• 3:24:56
  The Giants defense was better than average of what they played
• 3:25:00
  this year. Baltimore was horrible.
• 3:25:01
  The Jets were horrible, Miami's horrible, Washington was up and
• 3:25:05
  down, really horrible. I could go on and on and on and
• 3:25:08
  on and on. They did.
• 3:25:09
  Their schedule was absolutely easy, simple.
• 3:25:13
  And I said going into the playoffs, I want to see what
• 3:25:16
  Drake May could do against talented top end teams.
• 3:25:19
  And I want to see what will Campbell and what this offensive
• 3:25:22
  line in this this great defense of the New England Patriots,
• 3:25:26
  this run stopping defense was all season long.
• 3:25:29
  I want to see how they can compete against the elite teams
• 3:25:32
  in the AFC. And boy oh boy, Will Campbell
• 3:25:35
  did not look good. He looked horrible against the
• 3:25:37
  Texans. I don't know if anybody watched
• 3:25:39
  the complete domination of the Texans.
• 3:25:41
  How many fumbles were there in the game 4?
• 3:25:44
  Will Campbell had problems stopping the defense of the
• 3:25:47
  Texans. Will Campbell had problems
• 3:25:48
  stopping the defense of the Broncos.
• 3:25:51
  They completely attacked him all game long on both games.
• 3:25:55
  And I think when you watch film, you can see there was a lot of
• 3:25:59
  weaknesses he had, especially techniques on the outside.
• 3:26:02
  And you can see it. And I think all the great
• 3:26:05
  coaches, especially the defensive minded coaches
• 3:26:08
  attacked at over during the playoffs.
• 3:26:10
  And I think if he continues on that trajectory, he's going to
• 3:26:14
  have problems moving forward in his career.
• 3:26:16
  I again, we'll see how he is next year against top end
• 3:26:19
  talents #1 teams in their divisions because that's what
• 3:26:23
  they're matched up against. Their schedule is going to be
• 3:26:25
  much, much more harder next year.
• 3:26:27
  And then we can really decide if Will Campbell is going to be an
• 3:26:30
  elite offensive tackle or mediocre.
• 3:26:34
  And I think he's more of a mediocre tackle than he elite
• 3:26:37
  tackle in this league. Well, you know, just.
• 3:26:40
  To finish it up, I'll tell you, as a rookie, he was rated in the
• 3:26:44
  top 60 to 70% in both pass and run block for tackles, which is
• 3:26:49
  good, not great, but he was there and he's found a way to
• 3:26:53
  get, you know, through the season, playing through the
• 3:26:56
  playoffs. Yes, they were targeting him.
• 3:26:59
  He was banged up, but I'm telling you as a rookie, when
• 3:27:03
  you get attacked like this, you're going to take it
• 3:27:05
  personally if you're any kind of competitor.
• 3:27:07
  And everything that people said about Will Campbell is he's a
• 3:27:11
  competitor. I have a good feeling and quotes
• 3:27:14
  from Dante Scarneckia, legendary Patriots line coach is not there
• 3:27:18
  anymore said that, you know, I'm not getting rid of this guy.
• 3:27:21
  I'm not firing this guy. I'm putting him right back where
• 3:27:23
  he was. Vrabel firmly shuts down any
• 3:27:26
  rumors of moving him inside the guard that his hands, you know,
• 3:27:29
  his arm length's too small. This guy just needs to get into
• 3:27:33
  the workshop. He's his first year out of
• 3:27:35
  college. He had to face.
• 3:27:36
  I mean, that Denver defense was excellent, that Houston defense
• 3:27:40
  was better, and that Seattle defense is one of the all time
• 3:27:43
  defenses. Anyone's going to struggle
• 3:27:45
  against them. This guy is going to get better.
• 3:27:48
  And I know that because I'm a man and I'm 40.
• 3:27:51
  You're a man, all right? You're definitely. 40 but that's
• 3:27:54
  true. A little lost on these these
• 3:27:56
  takes because I disagree. And and honestly, he comes from
• 3:28:00
  LSU and a lot of these offensive lineman over the years, they're
• 3:28:06
  highly profile guys that don't really get over, you know, in
• 3:28:11
  the NFL. So I'm not saying that he won't
• 3:28:13
  be successful. Nobody says that he won't be.
• 3:28:16
  He's in his first year. He plays in a Super Bowl.
• 3:28:19
  He bombed in a Super Bowl and he bombed throughout the playoffs.
• 3:28:22
  But he still has an opportunity with a Patriot team, Mike Vrabel
• 3:28:28
  and and obviously Josh McDaniels, a guy that two guys
• 3:28:32
  that know what they're doing. I've been successful at the, you
• 3:28:34
  know, as as coaches and as well Mike Frabel as a position
• 3:28:38
  player. So we'll see how he develops.
• 3:28:41
  I just I question, first of all, Membu was a better player coming
• 3:28:45
  out of the draft that he was and Membu was drafted after him.
• 3:28:48
  I think The Jets really struck gold with Membu.
• 3:28:54
  I remember when we did the draft.
• 3:28:56
  And I was just, I kept showing the highlights of him in
• 3:28:58
  college. Every single play that I found,
• 3:29:00
  the highlight was him putting somebody on his back and
• 3:29:03
  blocking him. You did, you said he.
• 3:29:05
  You thought he was the best tackle in the draft and this
• 3:29:08
  year it showed because he was a top 12 player in PFFI Mean and
• 3:29:13
  and The Jets have a future because they have Fushanu and
• 3:29:16
  they have him on the outside so they could build on that.
• 3:29:19
  At least they have something to build on.
• 3:29:22
  It's something that Seattle built on at the end of the Pete
• 3:29:25
  Carroll, you know, Pete Carroll time with Russell Wilson.
• 3:29:29
  They needed to to re up and fix that offensive line.
• 3:29:32
  And what did they do in the same draft?
• 3:29:34
  They added a right tackle and a left tackle, which changed
• 3:29:37
  everybody's fortune, including their fortune.
• 3:29:39
  One of the main reasons why they dominated that game in the Super
• 3:29:42
  Bowl was the offensive line. I think people don't understand
• 3:29:45
  how important the trenches and that offensive line completely
• 3:29:48
  dominated. They open holes up for Walker.
• 3:29:51
  Walker could. I think any running back could
• 3:29:53
  have ran through those holes. That's how great that offensive
• 3:29:56
  line played, especially that running game.
• 3:29:59
  Played all game long in the Super Bowl and completely
• 3:30:02
  dominated the A-Team. Like the Patriots.
• 3:30:05
  They would think they were second ranked defensively and
• 3:30:08
  stopping the run. They could not stop Walker and
• 3:30:10
  they could not stop that big offensive line.
• 3:30:12
  You know what was real interesting and I was listening.
• 3:30:13
  To some people break it down. Cooper Cup did the thing that
• 3:30:17
  Brandon Iuke used to do in that game, which was come down the
• 3:30:21
  line and just clean up the backside so that Walker could
• 3:30:24
  cut back. Cooper Cup was responsible for a
• 3:30:27
  number of those big runs and people don't realize how great
• 3:30:30
  of a run blocker he is. Not to mention the fact that he
• 3:30:33
  he led the team in receiving in the Super Bowl and had to score,
• 3:30:36
  which we we believe. That was going to happen and
• 3:30:39
  obviously the injury that the Jigba had in the second-half, he
• 3:30:44
  needed to make some plays and he him and Barnard played very well
• 3:30:47
  in the second-half and Barnard had that important touchdown and
• 3:30:51
  Cooper Cup was the the go to guy, the blanket for, you know,
• 3:30:57
  a quarterback that needed the, you know, needed that
• 3:31:01
  opportunity to get the ball to So and and by the way, Sam
• 3:31:04
  Darnold was sensational in that game.
• 3:31:06
  Everybody looks at his numbers and like he didn't have the when
• 3:31:09
  he needed to make a play, he made a play and and to lose your
• 3:31:12
  your number one target in early in the second-half to go in, you
• 3:31:17
  know, to take the ball all the way down the field the way he
• 3:31:19
  did and get that ball to Barner shows you why they're Super Bowl
• 3:31:23
  champions. I think people need to give Sam
• 3:31:25
  Donald a little bit more credit when they needed to put
• 3:31:28
  everything on his shoulders. Mike McDonald did that, and
• 3:31:32
  that's why I think Mike McDonald was the best coach in the NFL
• 3:31:35
  this year. He did.
• 3:31:36
  He trusted in his players and trusted in the quarterback to
• 3:31:39
  make the play and congratulations until to the
• 3:31:42
  Seattle Seahawks for a great season and just surprise, I
• 3:31:47
  mean, 14 and three and then just fly right through the playoffs
• 3:31:50
  on it. I'm I mean, they flew the Rams
• 3:31:53
  wouldn't have even been close in that game if it wasn't for
• 3:31:55
  woolen. OK, I I think they destroyed the
• 3:31:58
  Rams completely dominated the Rams.
• 3:32:00
  And you know what they did to see you know what they did to
• 3:32:03
  San Francisco? They completely, they completely
• 3:32:06
  dominated a San Francisco team that played was was playing so
• 3:32:09
  well at a high, you know, at a high quality of football all
• 3:32:14
  season long, especially the last four or five games of the
• 3:32:17
  season. And and to do it, do what they
• 3:32:19
  did to Christian McCaffrey and that offense, it was very
• 3:32:22
  impressive. So Seattle deserved to be where
• 3:32:25
  they were and very and I think they were the best team going
• 3:32:28
  into the playoffs by far out of all the teams go from the AFC
• 3:32:32
  and the NFC. So and I think they're going to
• 3:32:35
  be even better next year because they still have a lot of money.
• 3:32:37
  They can add free agents. I I think they're in the top 12
• 3:32:41
  in money that they can spend. And I, I think they're, they're
• 3:32:45
  in a very good position next year, very good position to be
• 3:32:49
  to repeat in an NFC that they're by far the top three, top three
• 3:32:54
  in the NFC going into the season next year.
• 3:32:56
  So be very interesting to watch what they do in free agency,
• 3:33:00
  what they do in the draft. And you know, Schneider is a
• 3:33:03
  very good guy when it comes to drafting people in in later
• 3:33:08
  round. So I'm interested to see how
• 3:33:10
  they're going to be even build more onto the talent that they
• 3:33:13
  have right now. So, all right, ladies and
• 3:33:15
  gentlemen, our last segment of the night.
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  What's that smell? Hold up, What is that?
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  Smell. What's that smell?
• 3:33:26
  Wow, you don't? See that every day.
• 3:33:29
  All right, ladies. And gentlemen, it's pretty
• 3:33:30
  simple. We got us 4IN.
• 3:33:32
  We got Tommy Popes with the beautiful glasses new edge.
• 3:33:37
  You know, it probably tells him, gives him ChatGPT information as
• 3:33:42
  it probably talks to him because I have them too.
• 3:33:44
  I ask you questions. It tells me anything that I
• 3:33:47
  need. And we got the Spitzer and Mr.
• 3:33:49
  Fish. So we're going to go like this.
• 3:33:52
  But if you don't know the rules, it's pretty simple.
• 3:33:54
  We tell you a story and we tell you what it smells like.
• 3:33:56
  It can smell like roses or it can smell like dog poo poo or
• 3:34:00
  whatever the hell you want to call it.
• 3:34:01
  Doggy duty. All right, so we're going to go
• 3:34:03
  with Speedy Tommy poops. Fish me.
• 3:34:06
  Here we go. All right, I'm going to give.
• 3:34:09
  You credit for this one fish. You brought the story up to me
• 3:34:11
  and I figured it might as well use it once I realized the guy
• 3:34:14
  was Norwegian. Until I am part Norwegian, so I
• 3:34:16
  had to go after this. So there was an Olympic bronze
• 3:34:19
  medal biathlon cross country skier.
• 3:34:23
  For those don't know, that's cross country team combined with
• 3:34:24
  rifle shooting. And his name is Sterla Holm
• 3:34:27
  Lagreed, who won the bronze medal and then decided to
• 3:34:31
  awkwardly make a confession to his ex-girlfriend that he
• 3:34:37
  cheated on three months ago, allegedly and but only decided
• 3:34:39
  to tell her last week. And the ex-girlfriend who
• 3:34:42
  remains anonymous, she wanted to remain anonymous, came out last
• 3:34:44
  week and said this was a day ago and said this was not the time
• 3:34:48
  of the place to do it. He basically said I may have won
• 3:34:51
  a bronze medal, but I want the I want the gold medal back of who
• 3:34:55
  I really deserve. Referring to his ex-girlfriend
• 3:34:57
  that he cheated on. So making a very awkward claim.
• 3:35:01
  Meanwhile, it shed some light. It shed some attention off of
• 3:35:04
  his teammate Yohan Ola who won the gold medal in the event and
• 3:35:08
  also looks bad when unfortunately they had a another
• 3:35:12
  one in Seibert Guttorement Bakken who unfortunately passed
• 3:35:15
  away from an accident last last month and while in training.
• 3:35:19
  And he did pay homage to him before that.
• 3:35:21
  But still like shedding your light on this and trying to make
• 3:35:24
  a pitch to your ex-girlfriend that you cheated on after your
• 3:35:28
  after this monumental event for you.
• 3:35:30
  He's a young a young kid, definitely younger than 40 in
• 3:35:33
  order to do the biathlon, but definitely a really awkward
• 3:35:37
  moment for Starla Holm La greed and really taking away from all
• 3:35:41
  those great Norwegian skiers that they have included one and
• 3:35:45
  all of that won a golden medal. So what does it smell like?
• 3:35:47
  Well, there's a lot of smelly fish in Norway.
• 3:35:50
  The two smelliest according to AI Rack Fisk and Loop Fisk.
• 3:35:54
  So it smells like what? Yes, it smells like it smells
• 3:35:59
  like Sterlo being pelted with that by rifle guns for 51
• 3:36:03
  minutes and 2020 seconds, the amount of time it took him to
• 3:36:06
  finish the race. You want my cream pie?
• 3:36:10
  Now cream pie smells way too good.
• 3:36:12
  For this guy, I like anal. And he doesn't deserve anal.
• 3:36:15
  Either I hope not, he doesn't. That's another drop right there.
• 3:36:26
  All right, Tommy. All right as I could just.
• 3:36:29
  Finish typing that in as a drop later.
• 3:36:31
  All right. But yeah, basically my what's
• 3:36:33
  that smell? I'm going to be going somewhere
• 3:36:34
  that I kind of go quite often. I'm going over to the squared
• 3:36:37
  circle over in wrestling with WrestleMania and WWE.
• 3:36:42
  Basically Braun Breaker, who, if you guys don't know who Braun
• 3:36:44
  Breaker is, pretty much want to be pushed.
• 3:36:46
  Most pushed are within the last year other than Gunther, as
• 3:36:50
  we've also talked about on this show much recently as well.
• 3:36:53
  He is apparently hurt, has a supposed hernia from flipping
• 3:36:56
  over an announce table, and truthfully, the world is trying
• 3:37:00
  to know if this is a work or. Not so.
• 3:37:02
  Truthfully, I originally looked at it, saw it was a work.
• 3:37:06
  Many people, of course, I've talked to many people.
• 3:37:08
  Fish also believes this could be a work could see him back in
• 3:37:11
  WrestleMania time, beneficial very, very soon.
• 3:37:14
  The timing is a little bit of funny for me.
• 3:37:16
  That's the only reason why we have Elimination Chamber coming
• 3:37:18
  up this month. So really, I don't know the
• 3:37:20
  direction that it's going to go to with Brown Breaker.
• 3:37:23
  And honestly, without a Brown Breaker title win at this Mania,
• 3:37:26
  it's going to spell bad for Triple H.
• 3:37:28
  He's already had. If he does, so strikes out, I'm
• 3:37:30
  pretty much back-to-back. Wrestlemanias wouldn't look good
• 3:37:33
  for this new era that he's trying to thrust everybody into.
• 3:37:36
  So with Braun Breaker being out, what does it smell like?
• 3:37:39
  It smells like the most absolute, absolute terrifying
• 3:37:44
  thing that I'm going to poop out in the toilet when I get home
• 3:37:48
  because they don't have tongues. I would hope they don't have
• 3:37:50
  tongues either. That would be kind of my.
• 3:37:53
  Ass don't need anything with tongues, Tommy.
• 3:37:55
  My ass can be a couple inches away.
• 3:37:56
  From the toilet, I don't know if I want my tongue and ass to be,
• 3:38:00
  you know, associated with that. I don't any of the smelling
• 3:38:03
  Norwegian. Fish, either I would.
• 3:38:06
  I want to pull jobless panties down.
• 3:38:08
  All right, fish, please hurry up.
• 3:38:09
  Before, before we, I. I don't even know what to say
• 3:38:13
  about that other than I've got a new recipient arrow for the, I
• 3:38:18
  guess now the not memorial because he's not dead, but he's
• 3:38:21
  not in the league anymore. The Anthony Rendon memorial, not
• 3:38:25
  going to play any games while getting paid a ton of money
• 3:38:28
  award. It's going to Chris Bryant who
• 3:38:31
  was announced the other day that he will start the 2020 sixth
• 3:38:35
  season on the 60 day injured list due to lumbar degenerative
• 3:38:41
  disc disease. So that was 2 days ago when he
• 3:38:45
  they announced that he signed a contract.
• 3:38:48
  He's played 170 games out of a possible 6:48.
• 3:38:54
  That's going to be over 700 by the time he comes back.
• 3:38:58
  Errol, that's around 30% of the games.
• 3:39:02
  This is more like a David Wright thing where his back on him and
• 3:39:06
  there's really not much he can do about it.
• 3:39:08
  But they paid him and baseball's guaranteed money.
• 3:39:11
  So guess what? He gets to keep that money and
• 3:39:13
  gets to keep collecting those. Checks.
• 3:39:17
  What does it? Smell like well in Colorado this
• 3:39:20
  is what I think it smells like they it smells like a deep dish
• 3:39:23
  pizza from Chicago which what they thought they were getting
• 3:39:26
  in Kris Bryant the. Good, Kris.
• 3:39:28
  Bryant and what it turned out they accidentally dropped it off
• 3:39:32
  in Pagosa Springs Sugar beet processing in Fort Morgan which
• 3:39:38
  is a rotten fish and sulfur smell that is the worst smell in
• 3:39:42
  Colorado mixed with that pizza Oh my God it must be terrible
• 3:39:47
  I'm putting you on a leash now all right so my final what's
• 3:39:53
  that smell well, it has to go to Stephen A Smith in this story
• 3:39:56
  because before the playoffs in the.
• 3:39:58
  Success of the. Patriots defense.
• 3:40:02
  He took pride in an African American defensive coordinator
• 3:40:06
  and Terrell Williams. This guy's great.
• 3:40:08
  The reason why the Patriots defense is as good as it is is
• 3:40:12
  because it's Terrell Williams. But by the way, I guess Stephen
• 3:40:15
  A Smith didn't actually know who the defensive coordinator was
• 3:40:18
  because he was out the whole season because of injury.
• 3:40:22
  So it wasn't Terrell Williams. It was really Mike Vrabel and
• 3:40:26
  the linebacker coach that was calling the defensive play
• 3:40:28
  calls. Well, after the Super Bowl loss,
• 3:40:33
  there was a conversation that Terrell Williams will be back
• 3:40:35
  for next year. He's ready to come back as the
• 3:40:37
  defensive coordinator, but a new story just came out.
• 3:40:41
  The New England Patriots are opening their defensive
• 3:40:45
  coordinator position by moving Terrell Williams, who missed the
• 3:40:48
  2025 season after being diagnosed with prostate cancer,
• 3:40:53
  to a high-ranking role on coach Mike Vrabel's staff, a source
• 3:40:58
  confirmed. Williams was recently cleared to
• 3:41:01
  return, according to Vrabel, who noted Tuesday that there was or
• 3:41:06
  were things to work through with the configuration of his staff.
• 3:41:12
  So what it's telling me right now is he doesn't want to go
• 3:41:16
  back to Terrell Williams and he's giving him a higher.
• 3:41:19
  Well, he claims it's a higher position on a higher ranking on
• 3:41:24
  his coaching staff because he doesn't believe Terrell Williams
• 3:41:29
  is the guy as moving forward as a defensive coordinator.
• 3:41:32
  That means he's either going to bring in a defensive
• 3:41:34
  coordinator, there's a couple of guys that are still available
• 3:41:38
  right now in free agency, coaches that have been very
• 3:41:42
  successful as defensive corners. Or does he bring back Zach,
• 3:41:45
  which was very successful all season long as it taking over
• 3:41:49
  for defensive corner? Or maybe Mike Vrabel calls the
• 3:41:52
  defensive play calling moving forward, which he was probably
• 3:41:55
  doing throughout the season. You know what it smells like?
• 3:41:58
  It smells like rotten fish coming out from New England and
• 3:42:02
  using that blue crab to shove up his ass.
• 3:42:06
  How do you like that? I like the blue crap.
• 3:42:07
  It tastes very good. I guess we're going Atlantic
• 3:42:10
  Ocean. I don't know, because I wouldn't
• 3:42:12
  shove a crap up my ass. That would really hurt.
• 3:42:14
  But I think Shane Bowen's available by the way, that.
• 3:42:20
  Would be funny, used to work with him.
• 3:42:22
  That's true. That's true.
• 3:42:24
  Very interesting. Or a guy named Smith.
• 3:42:26
  If you know what I'm talking about.
• 3:42:29
  Last name Smith. I wonder.
• 3:42:31
  Who I'm speaking about. Anyways, thank you to all the
• 3:42:35
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• 3:42:37
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• 3:42:41
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• 3:42:44
  the time of almost 45 minutes on the interview.
• 3:42:47
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• 3:42:50
  looked like he had a lot of fun. I didn't go off tar, you know,
• 3:42:53
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• 3:42:57
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• 3:43:00
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• 3:43:03
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• 3:43:07
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• 3:43:10
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• 3:44:31
  This All Star break of garbage, the slam dunk contest, the
• 3:44:34
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• 3:44:42
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• 3:44:47
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• 3:44:49
  I think they played today. The men's team, I don't know if
• 3:44:52
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• 3:44:53
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