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Vick's Flicks, Ep. 180: Project Hail Mary · Nashville Movie Dispatch

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  Speaker 1: And now, ladies and gentlemen, the Sobros Network proudly brings
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  Speaker 1: to you some in depth movie discussion with our resident
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  Speaker 1: film critic, Brandon.
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  Speaker 2: Vic Happy evening, everyone, The vix Flicks Podcast is here. Welcome, Welcome,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the vix Flicks Podcast right
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  Speaker 2: here on National Movie Dispatch. I'm your host, Sir Brandon Vick,
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  Speaker 2: a member of the Southeastern Filmcare Association and a board
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  Speaker 2: member of the Music City Film Critics Association. And today
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  Speaker 2: we're talking Project Hail Mary, I think one of the
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  Speaker 2: finest films of twenty twenty six so far. And boy
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  Speaker 2: do I have a special guest. It's obb our buddy
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  Speaker 2: Brett is here with us live to start talking about this. Brett,
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  Speaker 2: how are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for asking. I had to put a playground together
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  Speaker 2: for my son.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me more about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my father in law told me it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be two and a half hours, and that was
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  Speaker 2: around nine fourteen in the morning. When I left to
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  Speaker 2: do the show. It was at four four and we
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  Speaker 2: were just the slide was being put up, which was
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  Speaker 2: the last piece. So anybody that's good with math, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: from nine to something in the morning to four something
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  Speaker 2: in the afternoon. People got sun burnt, people got mad.
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  Speaker 2: My son had a field day. He didn't care. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he was running around with the drill, he had drill
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  Speaker 2: bits in his mouth. He was having a fun time.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know shit about tools, So what do
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  Speaker 2: I know if he is having if he's not allowed
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  Speaker 2: to have that or Yeah, my father in law yelled
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  Speaker 2: at me twice because I wouldn't lock the drill into
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  Speaker 2: the drill bit to drill down. So I just basically
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  Speaker 2: all that silver dust was fine enough.
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  Speaker 3: Is that the grown up version of like your dad
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  Speaker 3: telling you to hold a flashlight in place? And you know, yes?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, yes, yes, I saw someone, Yeah I
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  Speaker 2: saw a thing about that on social media. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I remember my father in law was like, is
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  Speaker 2: that why you only had one kid? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, but but here's the thing. Maybe it skipped
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  Speaker 2: me and it goes to him. I don't know, because
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  Speaker 2: my dad is is very handy.
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  Speaker 3: We we put together a place for our kids some
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  Speaker 3: years ago and it was a.
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  Speaker 2: Similar playground, like a swing set type thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, slide swings, a little climbing thing that's it. It
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  Speaker 3: took I think it took us two days, so you
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  Speaker 3: beat me. Really, it took a long time. And then
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  Speaker 3: in a tornado came through in a limb smashed it.
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  Speaker 3: So there is there is hope.
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  Speaker 2: I would be so pissed. This week is supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be nice. I'm like, oh, this is a good week,
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  Speaker 2: but like it's only like eighty degrees here in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like over in like the corner of my porch,
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  Speaker 2: like pouring bottles of water on my head, like are
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  Speaker 2: you guys okay, like I'm drowning.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's too hot already.
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  Speaker 2: My sister in law and my wife helped me push
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  Speaker 2: the box from our dining room into the out to
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  Speaker 2: the deck and I had to lay down for ten
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  Speaker 2: minutes and nice my legs.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's good to know your limits.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And my wife was calling me, I've never
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  Speaker 2: heard this a pansy. I'm not sure what it meant,
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  Speaker 2: but she was screaming that at me. Anyway, it's fixed,
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  Speaker 2: it's great. He was already swinging on it and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So we're looking forward to it anyway. Project till Mary.
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  Speaker 2: So first of all, let me just set the scene
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  Speaker 2: here Brett, his wife and myself all went to see
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  Speaker 2: this in imax in seventy millimeters a week and a
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  Speaker 2: half ago. Yes, and Droopy told you had troubles with
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  Speaker 2: the Regal Cinemas app so instead of sitting next to
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  Speaker 2: each other, you sat behind me. But that was fine
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  Speaker 2: because I sat with other fun people and and it
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  Speaker 2: was awesome. I mean, I've seen people say like, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 2: see it on the biggest ring possible. That's real, that's legit.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start off with, oh, well, let me hold on
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  Speaker 2: one sec. You listened to the book, yes, by Andy Weir.
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  Speaker 3: I read part of it. Give me like a tenth
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  Speaker 3: of credit for that.
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  Speaker 2: What page did you end on?
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  Speaker 3: I read? It was on the kindle? So do I
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  Speaker 3: get less credit for?
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  Speaker 2: God? No, No, you don't know. Let's just say you
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  Speaker 2: listen to it. Okay, all right, fine, you listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: I had the book, I touched the pages.
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  Speaker 3: I would lick my thumb like just skim like Betsy Ross.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, skim through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So we went in already knowing the story, and I
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  Speaker 2: have I rarely have done that. I've done that for
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  Speaker 2: a few films, which we'll get into but actually did
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  Speaker 2: this for Andy Wear's other book, The Martian before I
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  Speaker 2: went to see it Matt Damon, directed by Willie Scott.
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  Speaker 2: But project hell Mary just initial thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: So I liked the book a lot and I loved
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  Speaker 3: the movie. I My day job is editing, and I
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  Speaker 3: thought this was a master class in editing to translate
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  Speaker 3: from the page to the screen.
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  Speaker 2: Would you say this is one of like the elite
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  Speaker 2: sci fi movies?
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  Speaker 3: I think so. I've seen it twice now, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: See you've actually seen it twice because you took your
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  Speaker 2: kids to it just the other day.
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  Speaker 3: Because yeah, and I will say the seventy millimeter, the IMAX,
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  Speaker 3: it makes a differences.
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  Speaker 2: A people understand. Like within the movie there are there
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  Speaker 2: are flashbacks of sorts that where the aspect ratio changes,
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  Speaker 2: and when it's in space, it is like a full
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  Speaker 2: on seventy millimeter full picture and it's gorgeous all. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's not a scene in there which we'll get cinematography
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  Speaker 2: here in a little bit. It's it's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and it does that in the standard showing as well,
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  Speaker 3: But there's so such small room for it to expand
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  Speaker 3: that I was watching for it it does happen, but
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  Speaker 3: it's just not the same as on the IMAX. So
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  Speaker 3: certainly recommend that if it's available near you and you're
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  Speaker 3: able to go.
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  Speaker 2: In my notes, I have suck at Spielberg, suck at Kubrick,
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  Speaker 2: suck it Nolan, and suck it Ridley Scorn. Yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is the best sci fi film I've ever seen in
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  Speaker 2: my entire life. I'm kind of kidding, but it does well.
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  Speaker 2: Say inspirations e T I think is one of probably
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  Speaker 2: the first thing we kind of think about. There is
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  Speaker 2: a part where when he's kind of communicating, right, Doctor
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  Speaker 2: Grace played by Ryan Gosling is communicating and he uses
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  Speaker 2: the theme of Close Encounters of the three time yep.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there's also some some two thousand and
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  Speaker 2: one space honesty stuff in there. So the one thing
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  Speaker 2: I liked is that it's it wears that's on it.
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  Speaker 2: It whears that kind of inspirations admirations for what's come
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  Speaker 2: before it on its sleeve. I don't think it fully
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  Speaker 2: relies on it. I don't think it takes any shortcuts
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  Speaker 2: on it. But it's also very self aware, knows what
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  Speaker 2: it is, knows that it's whose shoulders are standing on,
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  Speaker 2: but it still makes such spectacular odyssey and it's such
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  Speaker 2: a great story, and it really is kind of comes down.
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  Speaker 2: I think I found it very hopeful, And I know
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Gossling has talked about how like it seems like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these sci fi things is kind of
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  Speaker 2: a doomsday type perspective, but Andy Weir is not like that,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's nice to see that we're like, the
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  Speaker 2: impossible is possible. Humans can get shipped, right, they can
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  Speaker 2: do it. I've seen where a lot of people have
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  Speaker 2: liked the most unbelievable thing of this whole movie that
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  Speaker 2: that is the most fake is that other countries working together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but sadly so.
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  Speaker 2: But I love I love that outlook, and I love
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  Speaker 2: that it is kind of and Ryan Gossling has said
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  Speaker 2: like he didn't really feel like there was a movie
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  Speaker 2: out there that sort of like the et type thing
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  Speaker 2: that like for them and like for his daughters for instance,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know what, that that's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: Like I didn't really think about it while I was
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  Speaker 2: watching it, because I have seen those movies, and I
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  Speaker 2: have seen some pretty great sci fi space movies. But
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  Speaker 2: but what Project hel Mary is able to do is
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  Speaker 2: pretty astonishing.
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  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, this is a tidbit that I got.
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  Speaker 3: This was on Lord and Miller were on the Big
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  Speaker 3: Picture podcast, which we're both fans of.
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  Speaker 2: I do listen to it, and I actually just listened
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  Speaker 2: to that like a few days ago. I didn't see
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  Speaker 2: the interview though.
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  Speaker 3: One thing that they said was that the movie is
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  Speaker 3: built like a PC, not a MAC, as in, not
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  Speaker 3: the sleekness, not everything's perfect. They talk they they kind
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  Speaker 3: of say the parts are on the outside of this
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  Speaker 3: and I think some of that what you're saying, even
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  Speaker 3: using the Close Encounters theme as part of that or
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  Speaker 3: the tone from that there show their adoration for that.
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  Speaker 3: They're not saying this right, yes, And I think that
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  Speaker 3: really adds to it, that it is kind of here
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  Speaker 3: is this generation. We love all these movies, and here's
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  Speaker 3: this generation's version of something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well you're talking about So there's Chris Miller, Phil Lord.
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  Speaker 2: They are the directors of this. This is their first
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  Speaker 2: directing gig in almost a decade. Their last movie they
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  Speaker 2: directed was twenty two Jump Street. They have multiple in
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  Speaker 2: Lego movie and in the Spider Verse movies. So and
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  Speaker 2: I think Project Hill Mary really fits into what their
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  Speaker 2: type of storytelling is or type of filmmaking I've seen
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  Speaker 2: where they A lot of people have said, and I
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  Speaker 2: think I would tend to agree, is that it was
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  Speaker 2: a blessing that got fired from the solo movie where
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  Speaker 2: Ron Howard ended up taking over, because I think they
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  Speaker 2: were able to come up with something like this, and
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  Speaker 2: they were able to adapt this story to the way
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  Speaker 2: that they want to tell the story, but also the
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  Speaker 2: way they see the world with their humor. But there's
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  Speaker 2: also I mean, there's a lot of emotional moments in
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  Speaker 2: this and if you've read the book, I mean it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's there and Ryan Gosling squeezing out them tears.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and it feels like it hits some of those
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  Speaker 3: emotional moments even better than the book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think so speaking of the book,
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  Speaker 2: we have both read slash Lition listened to it. So
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  Speaker 2: would you say, how would you compare the film to
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  Speaker 2: the book? I guess is the main thing. I think
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  Speaker 2: the I think the one thing that you and I
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  Speaker 2: talked about as soon as the movie was over is
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  Speaker 2: that in the book there is a lot of science
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  Speaker 2: jargon that is very confusing to normal people. They cut
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  Speaker 2: it back in the movie, they kind of get back
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  Speaker 2: to the basics, make you understand it, because it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a pivot, little part, but it's not the most
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to know every detail of it in
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  Speaker 2: order to kind of go on this journey and ride
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  Speaker 2: this emotional ride. So how what what else would you
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  Speaker 2: say as far as just just compared to the book
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  Speaker 2: and the overall kind of satisfaction of reading it and
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  Speaker 2: seeing it adapted to put on screen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the on that piece about the science we were talking,
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  Speaker 3: My youngest son is seven, and I took him, and
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  Speaker 3: the movie is cut in such a way that he
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  Speaker 3: could follow the big story of what was happening. Surely
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  Speaker 3: not every science experiment they do along the way and
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  Speaker 3: that kind of thing, but he knows the plot of
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  Speaker 3: what's what's happening and and and I think that's one
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  Speaker 3: of going back to They made all the right cuts
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  Speaker 3: for it to go to the big screen. One other
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  Speaker 3: thing is that it's a funnier movie than it is
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  Speaker 3: a book, and it's a It's got humor in the
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  Speaker 3: book for sure, but it.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely plays this part in the way, especially the way
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  Speaker 2: Grace and Rocky interact and kind of grace just as
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  Speaker 2: you know, personality and his perspective on kind of who
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  Speaker 2: he is and the significance in the role that he's
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  Speaker 2: playing in this kind of saving the world type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's where Lord and Miller kind of
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  Speaker 2: come in and really kind of inject that into it.
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  Speaker 2: And you also have someone like Ryan Gosling who's very
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  Speaker 2: much aware of how of how to do that, but
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  Speaker 2: not so much where you kind of lose hope in
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  Speaker 2: kind of this. He is a hero of sorts, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not that stoic hero that we're used to and
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  Speaker 2: that and Gosling is it you know he has played before,
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  Speaker 2: This is not it. There is doubt, there is confusion.
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  Speaker 3: There is fear, yes, and yes, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: to send strays at The Fall Guy during this podcast,
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  Speaker 3: but I felt like with The Fall Guy they didn't
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  Speaker 3: get everything out of him that you can. There's something
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  Speaker 3: just missing, and this movie gets it all out of him.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's things where like Barbie certainly gets a
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  Speaker 2: chunk of it, but I don't know if anything has
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  Speaker 2: ever drawn on everything that Gosling can bring to a character,
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  Speaker 2: then this has and I think that's why he's getting
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  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of credit for what he's
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  Speaker 2: being able to do for a middle school teacher ends
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  Speaker 2: up becoming this, you know, this unsuspecting hero. But it works,
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  Speaker 2: and and all of them, there's so much that relies
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  Speaker 2: on Goslin, Like if it doesn't work with him, the
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  Speaker 2: movie just doesn't work. I mean there's there's there are
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  Speaker 2: times where it's kind of like, hey, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: I think of like Castaway. If Tom Hanks can't carry
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  Speaker 2: that movie, that movie's dead in the water, yep. And
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a case for that too. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and from the start it's almost I mean there's
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  Speaker 3: almost like silent act for the first twenty minutes or so.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's bits and pieces of him kind of
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  Speaker 3: blurting things out, but Tiger himself and he has to
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  Speaker 3: wordlessly figure out to some degree where he is, why
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  Speaker 3: is there and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So before we get to Ruyan Gossling's performance, is
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  Speaker 2: there anything else in the book just overall that? And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get to it because I know you
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  Speaker 2: and I did talk about the ending of the book,
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  Speaker 2: the ending of the film, stuff like that, But anything
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  Speaker 2: more comedy obviously, I think, and we'll get to and
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  Speaker 2: we'll kind of dive a little bit into this, but
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  Speaker 2: they really nail home that Rocky and Grace relationship and
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  Speaker 2: if and again, I also think that's something that's very
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  Speaker 2: instrumental in having this film work, because if you don't,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't feel for Grace and basically these just
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  Speaker 2: stack of rocks, it doesn't work. But it does. And
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  Speaker 2: there are a couple parts where I told you, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you're kind of reframing from going in because they are
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  Speaker 2: friends and they're trying to get they want the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: But what are the odds of them coming, you know,
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  Speaker 2: coming together and be able to figure to figure out
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  Speaker 2: the world's problems. But anything else stick out.
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  Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is I think the biggest
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  Speaker 3: thing is just the decisions they made where they cut.
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  Speaker 3: That is usually for fans of a book, that is
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  Speaker 3: usually the bugaboo of a movie is that they say, well,
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  Speaker 3: what about this, This doesn't work as well without this
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  Speaker 3: piece in the book.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard bugaboo. I think since I was moving twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, good, good, and but for this movie, I
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  Speaker 3: really think it's it's a strong side of the movie
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  Speaker 3: is the places where they cut some things, the places
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  Speaker 3: where they just in the slightest way kind of tweaked
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  Speaker 3: the story to change to kind of get from point
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  Speaker 3: A to point B faster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it all works and it was all helpful
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  Speaker 3: for what they needed for the movie.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. So this blew my mind. And Ryan Gosling,
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  Speaker 2: I've gone on YouTube and just watch random interviews of him,
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  Speaker 2: and also let me tell you something. His cardigan game is.
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  Speaker 2: It's top notch.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about this with Henry Cavill. But he's a
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  Speaker 3: handsome man, Ryan Gosling, they both are, and you know.
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  Speaker 2: What, And I guess because I'm a guy that's just
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: trying to keep the hair that I have. But his
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  Speaker 2: hair is quite phenomenal. And it's like he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: gone from Barbie even to fall Guy into now like
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  Speaker 2: there is something about the style.
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  Speaker 3: It's getting better.
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  Speaker 2: It's sort of eighties. Yeah, but it it works, Like
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  Speaker 2: I can tell that they try to do stuff in
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  Speaker 2: the back just as much as they do in the front. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's but also can I say Ryan goss seems like
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  Speaker 2: a very sweet man. He does, and he is. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's married to Ava Mendez. Yes, two girls. Yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: they keep it very private. Which he did do a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: thing on Jimmy Founder about her birthday, which I think
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  Speaker 2: was kind of surprising to a lot of people because
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  Speaker 2: they don't they're not on the red carpet with him
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  Speaker 2: and stuff, and obviously that's very intentional, but it just
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  Speaker 2: seems like he has his shit together, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's starting to Mickey Mouse Club and stuff. And I
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  Speaker 2: mean it's not like he hasn't been acting forever, but
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  Speaker 2: he really seems to just know what's important. But his
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  Speaker 2: sense of humor to whoever is interviewing him makes you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you could just hang out with him. And
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  Speaker 2: there's no like stardom there, even though he's definitely an
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  Speaker 2: A list. I mean, he's going to get an Oscar. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it may not be for this, even though if he's
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  Speaker 2: for Best Actor then I'll then so be it. But
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: what I found interesting is that, you know, I think
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: it was during COVID. Andy Weir, the author of this book,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: sent a manuscript to Ryan Gosling, and Ryan said he
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: had no idea what it was. He didn't know what
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: it is about. And since then, and it was over
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: six years ago, and he became a producer on it
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: and read it and has obviously been very protective of
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: it through the years. The fact that the author sends
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: you a manuscript and wants you to basically do a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: movie is very impressive. I didn't even know that was
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: real because I don't even know if the book was published.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Was it published in twenty twenty.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Can my producer look this up? Can
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: you tell me when Project hel Mary was released? Because
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, because I don't guess he read the book,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's a manuscript for the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: book or the manuscript for whatever script would would come
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: of it, which again Drew Goddard actually adempt and so
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: he got it before as a book because he said
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: he had no idea what it was. But as far
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: as Gosling's performance, I think it's great. I think it
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it it. All of his strengths as an actor throughout
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the years shines through on this. There's this warmth, there's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the there's the charisma, there's the comedy of it. There's
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: also the very much of where he can get sentimental,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: emotional aspects of it. I think he nails. I think
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: he understands it. I also think a lot of it
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: is because he's so he's so intertwined in this project
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that I think by the time we get to like
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: filming the movie, he's seems like he's locked in.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's his baby too at that point. YEP.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: One thing I really liked is that so through the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: experience with with Rocky and everything, he kind of has
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: an ear piece in there and interacting because he go
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He's talked about how he's basically on set alone for
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: like one hundred days and on the ear in the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: ear piece, he's getting different stuff. Well, apparently that his
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: daughters had came to set one day and they surprised
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: him and they're talking through as Rocky and he said
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: some of his reactions is in the movie. And I
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: thought that was a beautiful thing. For those of anybody
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that has kids and a parent, I think it kind
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: of just takes you to another level.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I thought that was awesome. I really do think this
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: is some of his best work. I think between the
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: guy that just kind of doesn't expect much of himself
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and doesn't expect like he you know, when when he
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: is called to the mission. It's not like he's like
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I don't want to, He's scared. And there's a part
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: in the movie, and there's also a part that kind
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: of digs deep into the book where he kind of
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: realizes that like he was a coward but but but
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: there's more to that the coward, but he's there and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the way that he's gotten on there, but the way
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that he has kind of fulfilled this mission. They were right,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: like he knew what to do. I loved it. And again,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: this movie doesn't work without him. It just can't. He's
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: in most of it. A lot of it is the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: camera in his face, and I think that's a lot.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I think that says a lot about the kind of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: actor you want to carry something like this, and I
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: think there are some real elite players that have played
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: this kind of part where it's all or nothing and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: all of it's on your shoulders. What did you think
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: of his What did you think of his performance? And
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: where you kind of rank it, because I do have
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: in my notes. Is this your kind of favorite Ryan
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Gosling performance or movie?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: It could be recency biased, but it feels like it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: hard to say no to that. Just what you've already
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: said the way that it kind of pulls together all
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: the things that you already loved about him from other things.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, Kent Ken in Barbie, you're
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: getting spurts of him, but you're not getting him throughout,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: and you're not meant to leave this share. You're getting
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: him the whole way through, and he's carrying the project.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I remember read when I was reading the book, thinking that,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: you know, early on some reviews started coming out, even
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: before we got a chance to see you. They're really high,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, he is the perfect person to
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: kind of carry this what it has to be. That
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: piece you were talking about about bravery and coward and
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: all that something that I picked up on the second
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: viewing that I didn't It's like you said, it's through
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: the book, but I didn't catch it. In the movie.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: There's one of the flashbacks earlier on. He's walking with
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Captain Yol, who's one of his compatriots on the ship,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: and says, I really admire you, how brave you are.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I just couldn't do this, and Yaol says to him,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: it's not like a gene. You just find someone worth
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: being brave for and the movie and in the movie
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that's where I got it. And in the movie, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: mean Rocky is that that someone that pushes him over
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the edge to be to be.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Brave exactly and that and we'll get into the relationship
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: because it really is the heart and soul of the movie.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Ryan Gossling, movie or performance? Best? Is it your Is
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: it your favorite?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I guess I just I think so. It's it's hard
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to say no to that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Well, you forgot about Drive, so you're wrong. So but
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: thank you for for uh doing that. Yeah, no, it
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: is one of my favorites. I love Drive. None of
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: my family loves it. They hate it, but they're I mean,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: they're dumb. So yeah, that's I mean, clearly.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I like Drive. But it's just the heart of this
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: what the things you were describing earlier, the emotion, the humor.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's honestly Mount Rushmore talk. It's it's in
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the top four. I think Barbie gets there. I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Drive gets there. I think I think Project Hill Mary
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: gets here, and I think some things And even though
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: like Barbie, which I really like and I think he
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: made the most of it, there is something about the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: kind of just being the lead and it is your
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: like it's your movie. It succeeds or fills on you.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: And I think that's it. Like I would say one
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: of my favorite performances just and even though it is
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I would consider an ensemble. But I love crazy stupid Love.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the best mom cooms that
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. But I think Project hil Mary is
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: up there as far as Ryan Gosling's work. Yeah, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I think it means a lot. So let's get to Rocky.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Rocky is a big part I kind of liked and
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Gossling in some interview kind of he discussed it where
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: there was talk about not showing him in the trailers
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: or people complaining that he was in the trailers, right,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: He's like in a nutshell, And I think this was
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: on Travis in Jason Kelsey's podcast, but he's like, that's
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like saying ET was just about divorced parents, Like why
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: wouldn't we show him? Because it is a part of it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: And I agree, I don't think it should be a
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: secret that it is, but because the surprise of it
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: all is just how emotional and endearing the relationship is
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and kind of how they meet and the humor between
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: them and the heart between them and I have a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: so in the adaptation, it is where it is practical
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: physical puppet that's operated by it says, by a team
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: of like four to seven puppeteers, but it is led
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: by James Ortiz, who also provides the character's voice. It says,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: instead of CGI, the tangible rock like creature allowed Ryan
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Gossling to act opposite a real physical presence on set.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: What do you I'm sorry there's a dog race happening around. Well,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I'm trying. I love it. I think I think the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: movie even builds upon more than what the book even
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: gives you. It brings out the heart, it brings out
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the emotion, it brings out the jokes, the funniness of
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: it that I hate mark thing that people have been
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: posting about. I think it's great. I also really really
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: appreciate them not going full CGI and having this practicality
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: to it and being able to have something because I
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen it, but he's basically like
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: they've shown Rocky at the premiere and stuff like that,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and so I think it means a lot when people
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: don't rely on so much technology and can bring something
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: physical to it. What did you think of their relationship
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: with based Out's portrayed from the book and into the movie.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're in the In the book a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: lot of Rockies. A lot of the humorous moments with
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Rocky are almost accidental, as he's like learning learning how
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: humans act and think and that kind of thing, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: the movie gives him some more of his own kind
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: of wit and cleverness about he learns to kind of
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: play back and forth. And I think again, that was
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: a good shift, even though it's it's minor. Well, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: you know what you're talking about the practical nature of
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: the which I heard Lord and Miller say the puppeteers
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: they called the rocketeers, which is very fitting in a
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: time where there's so much discussion about AI green screens
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: and CGI and what's real, what's not, what's valuable in
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: that for it to be something that does harken back
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: to et and you know when things were always practical.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: You know, we've we've talked so many people have talked
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: about something like Jurassic Park. The reason it holds up
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: is because of the way it's made.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the piece is.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Put together and that feels very true in this. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: mean I was even leaning over to my ten year
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: old and saying, there's no green screen in this movie,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: and he could not believe it because all he knows
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: is green screen.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: You thought it was popcorn in the air, like.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Papa, Yes, that's right. Yes, took off his Newsy cap. Yeah. No,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: held it over as heart as Newsy capt you know.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And I sent you something because I knew you appreciate
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: it after we'd already seen it. But this was a
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: tweet from a culture crave, but it had the details
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: about Project Him Mary, and it has two thy and
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: eighteen visual effects shots. No green screen was used. Entire
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: interior of the ship was built space exteriors and space
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: ship shots were entirely digital by ILM, which I don't
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: quite know what that is. And then they do want
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to talk about Rocky. I was a blend of puppetry
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and animation from a company frame store, and I it
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: is amazing when you watch something like that and we're
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: talking about an Imax, where again it's just it's it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: sort of like a Nolan movie. It's astonishing. I can't
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: recommend it enough seeing that in Imax in seventy millimeter.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: But it is crazy that they went through this, through
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: these measures to make it still feel like the olden
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: days of things being physical and being there kind of
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: like in the nineties, sort of like a Spielberg Jurassic Park,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: where you know, there was a lot of like just
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and and I've and I've heard and I've heard Gossling
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: talk about like very talented technicians to bring all of
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: this stuff to life, and it feeds into such a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: just a phenomenal film. It's it's it's really impressive.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: So.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: And there's and again, Ryan Gosling and Rocky are kind
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: of the thing, but there is Sandra Huler Anatomy of
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a Fall. She has been a lot of different different
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: things and I do like her. I like her in
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: this I think when we're talking about the book, Uh,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it makes her more human in the film that she
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: is in the book. She's pretty cold and kind of business,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you know, straight to business type snap of her fingers
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: makes anything happen, but sympathetic, empathetic not not really brings
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: her back to have a little bit of heart in
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: this one, especially as she feels scorts doctor Grace and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: kind of the the work that needs to be done
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and his kind of belief and that he's not worthy
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: and she is. And I think one of the best
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: scenes is one of the last times they talk and
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: showing that she's not like this is actually confidence in him,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: even though it doesn't seem like it. I think that's
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a I think that's a great But I will say
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: one of the best scenes, if not the best scene,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: is or karaoke, Yes, Sign of the Times by Harry
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Styles and for those that have not heard it, so
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Ryan Gosling did not know she could sing, and he
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: heard her down the hall and apparently it was just
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: some scene that had some karaoke in the background. It
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: was not in the script at all, and he went
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to her and asked her, can you please sing during this?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: And she said I would only sing if I sing this,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and it was Signs of the Time. And Ryan Gosling
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: kids around and talks about what his producer had on
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: if she could have picked something that was not as expensive,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: because yes, it's a very known song from a very
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: known artist, but she sings it and it ends up
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: becoming one of the most I think it's pivotal. I
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: think it's it's it's such an important piece, and what
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a song to pick to sum up what is essentially
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: happening in this film. It's definitely one of the best scenes.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: It's could be the best scene because it's just it
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere, but it's just so poignant on
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: what exactly, on what they're doing and what they're talking about,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and what that song is about. I loved it. It
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: adds so much to it. Sorry, someone broken in my house.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: It adds so much to it. I was really blown
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: away by and the fact that it was never even
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: supposed to happen. I feel like it's just one of
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: those like fantastic Like it's the magic of the movies
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: where shit just kind of alignes and you're like, hmm,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you couldn't have planned.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: It something that. Going back to what you were saying,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent about how good that scene is.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: You were talking about them injecting her with a little
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: bit more humanity in the movie. Then this is also
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: something I picked up the second time that I don't
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: know that I pieced together the first time. Right before that,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: they're above board. He has come up from the party
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: and says, I don't get it. They're they're all dancing,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: people are hooking up. They're all gonna die, and she
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: says it comforts some of them to respond to each
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: other that way.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And that's before she sings.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: And right, and she says, she says, me, not so much.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: But then that scene shows she gets it, even if
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: it's not for her.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: His reaction to it, Yes, he understands, Yes, he understands.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I I liked her. I feel like she brings so
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: much more to that character than what's actually written in
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the book. Not that her character is is not written
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: with importance, but there is something that they're adding into
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the film that just makes her at least more relatable
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and not so cold hearted. And I think about where
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: like there's talk about with Ryan Gosling and best Actor
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what supporting actress that were in there.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like you could just play that karaoke scene
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and would be good. So I talked about Drew Goddard,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: he adapted the book, which he also did The Martian,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: another indie weird book, and this kind of goes to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: what I want to talk about with the ending. Goddard,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: along with Miller and Lord, felt very strongly about not
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: changing the ending, and according to Miller and Lord. The
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: test audience's responses went really well too, because they didn't
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: then there was gonna be pushback, and they expected it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: But I was happy to hear about that because I
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: know they do those test audiences and what you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: what's high and what's low. But I ran across thing
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and I really like this. This was per Indy Wired.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: It was in interview with it and Phil Lourd talked
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: about and he says, and it is a story about
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a guy who, unlike most space protagonists, he does not
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: fill at home on Earth and lonely in space. He
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: feels lonely on Earth and at home in space with
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: his one friend. Laughs. So it takes a trajectory of
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: that character, not one where he goes over and back
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: and starts where he finished. It's out in the universe.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: He's progressed to the next version of himself. I didn't ever,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't quite even when I read the book, when
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I was touching those pages with my tongue. Yes, and
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the movie, I didn't see it that way necessarily, But
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: it's very true, yeah, And it is. It very much
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: is the case with that, And I'm so glad that
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: there was enough support behind it, because there were I
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: told it, there was a time in the film where
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if they're going all the way.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to get into spoiler territory. I'll
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: just say I was wondering if you get that, if
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: we would get to that point and get to that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: final push, because and the thing with I think with
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the with the big picture, and I heard them talk
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: about it is like there it seemed like there is
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: like a few endings yeah, before it actually ends, even
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: even though they had not read the book and it
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: did feel that way. But also knowing the source material,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you know that it's okay, are we going to do?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Is it gonna be where it's the suggestion of it,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: but you don't see it, and you just know that
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: this friendship is more than what it is or more
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: you know, what is built upon with the with the narrative.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: But I really, I really enjoyed. I'm glad they did it. Yes,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: And honestly, up to the very last scene, that very
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: last shot, YEP, I thought it was great. It's it's
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a middle school teacher. And at the end of the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: day that said it over the way, would you yeah,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: would you do you see it ending any other way?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I kind of know that you would.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I think the way it ends is the way it
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: should end. But that's also coming from two guys that
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you know, Listen Slash read the book. Then that would
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: be like, okay, well, I wouldn't expect anything.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that. I understand if you haven't
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: read the book that you might feel like this has multiple.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Possible ending point.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I never thought that the first time, because having known
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: the source material, you're waiting for that last moment that
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: kind of caps everything.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting to see if they're actually going to end
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: with it, and when it kind of takes that slight turn,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, they're at least acknowledging it. Let's see
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: if we get to the to the finish line.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Well, and some people people may may think there's too
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: many endings or if they feel like it's overly long,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: but uh, from the source material, the ending is actually
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: quite a bit shorter. This is completely spoilery, but from
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: the from the time they're reunited, there's a lot more
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: in the book of kind of what happens next before
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: they get to that endpoint.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: The traveling a lot more about the finding the solution
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: to the.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Problem and even trying to find him at the end.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: That takes a lot.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Long weeks, they say so, but again it goes back
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to what we're talking about, where they kind of shorten
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: what what needs to what needs to happen, but really
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: focus on that relationship and heart friendship of it. And
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still amazed of just how well, just
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: how well cra did this. This this film.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Is, I mean it is. It is a sci fi movie,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: but it's a sports movie in that the model of
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: like there's this goal to be accomplished and are they
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: gonna do it or not. It's a buddy comedy movie, like.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Have Kurt Russell doing the miracle speech in it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do remember that. I was. I was surprised
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: by that that was one change from the book.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I thought, okay, it makes sense.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: And there's talks where because they show like there's a
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: part of the spaceship that kind of where they reminisce
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: they kind of show and he talked about where Apparently
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Ryan Gosling is a very big Stalone fan with Rocky
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and MG and owns Rocky and it's also the alien's
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: named Rocky, so they show Rocky and he's like, it
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: only made sense. You know what, You're right? Quick question?
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Did you did you read The Martian?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: No?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Did you ever read The Martian? Did you have you
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: seen them?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Did you like the Martians? I did, yes, So I
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: will tell you I don't quite remember. I don't know
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: if I could sit here today and kind of compare
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: the book to the movie, but I will tell you
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed the movie a lot, and I also liked
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: the book a lot. I don't know if it was
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: as loyal as Project Till Mary, because obviously it's fresh
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: on my mind, but I'm kind of like, you know
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: what Andy wear stuff is getting. It's getting some mighty
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: fine treatment between the two that I've known, and Matt
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Damon got nominated, Yeah, and The Martian was nominated, So
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I would love to see that from Project Till Mary.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And I know there's some other big stuff coming out
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: at the year, but I also feel like everything everywhere
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: all at once in centers, there's always something margin April,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: and honestly, with the success, we're doing this on Sunday
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: and it's made over eighty million over one hundred and
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: forty something million internationally. That's a huge thing. I think
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: it's the biggest of directors. I don't know if it's
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: agess of Ryan Gossing, but I do know I did
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: read that is the highest rated movie of Ryan Gossling's career.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Something I was thinking about on the way over here.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: About this time last year, we were doing a podcast
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: on Mickey seventeen.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: And got a ton of Oscar nominations.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Well, and we were at the time we were kind
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: of saying we might have something here, like finally there's
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: something to be a little excited, And I just love
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: that this is like a home run.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's got Yeah, and the fact that like
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: and not just us, and we've had where Stony significant
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: other has talked about it, no other people who have
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: read the book, and no one really has any real complaints.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: That's a lot in this day and age for people
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: to sort of agree, like man, like two and a
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: half hours. Man, it delivered so real quick as you
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: wrap things up. The cinematography fantastic, amazing ste Greg Frasier.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think this would surprise anybody, but he has
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: done Dune Part one, Dune Part two and The Batman.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: The practical effects and the terrific technicians we talked about
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: that they created, I think something that's very amazing. I
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: love the approach to it. The execution is I mean sublime.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: There are so many parts when I was watching it,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: and again it's being honestly enveloped in the IMAX experience,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: but it's I mean, it's it's so good and even
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: like as it gets towards the end, anything with space
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: and stuff is such eye popping, jaw dropping stuff, and
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I mean it's just like some people and I and
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I and I think of like with Christopher Nolanberg, like
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: there's just there are some things that only some filmmakers
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: can do to make you feel this way. And I
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: love that it was done in such a sci fi
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: comedy movie but also has real heart. And again not
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to get into specific scenes, but there are just things
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: where it just it just changes on a dime. But
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: from Gossling's character to the stuff back on the Earth
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: with Rocky, it works, and it's such and it's it's
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: such a it's such a sensational feeling of seeing that
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and how it's applied in certain scenes, and like I said,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: certain characters, certain situations, the production design. I mean, obviously
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: they had built part of the set on there, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot when into it, I heard Gossling
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: talk about with Great Fraser where they're they're filming where
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: the beginning and this kind of suit is kind of
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: see through. They were doing it and Ryan got's like, hey,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: can we just like go on set and like film
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: this because He's like, I wanted to make it work,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the long hair of the long beard. I know it
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: looked weird, but if it felt right, And so they
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: go on set and they do it and it works,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and it's like you know, he and it was him
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: complimenting Fraser on like just how like kind of like Okay, yeah,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: let's let's try this. And I feel like that's kind
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: of the way it was for I mean, I would
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: assume the whole crew. Yeah, for when it sounded like
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the score So, Uh, Daniel Pemberton, I loved it. I
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: think it's great. I think it's gonna be one of
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the best of twenty twenty six. You have any thoughts
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: on that as far as just the emotional range of
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it and kind of how it kind of starts off. Uh,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: when we kind of get the flashbacks down the first
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: beginning of discovering what is and then by the time
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: we get to the end, obviously on their mission, but
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: also with Rocky's relationship and where that's to go.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: You know, one of the movies that's already been brought
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: up a lot in conversation of connected to this as Interstellar. Yeah,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: and I think that was the piece that most in
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: my mind. It's not it's not a copy of Interstellar,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: but there's just this vibe about the sound that goes
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: with that kind of travel, and they hit it correctly
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: in this movie, and it.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Changes appropriate, Like there is this fluctuation of stuff where
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: like it's I don't know, I don't know if it's jazzy,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: but there's just there's a mixture of it. But obviously
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: it does change gears along with the film and where
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: we're at, and it works. It works perfectly. I'm for
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: those that don't know he has done, He's I mean
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: he's done a ton of stuff. I have not that
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: he's done, the Spider Verse films and one that I
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: think he didn't obviously he didn't not get enough credit
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: for it. In one of my top five films of
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: last year, but he did Eddington ari Astro's movie as well.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: It's it is epic and scale when it needs to be.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: It is quick and exciting when they're trying to figure
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: out problems, you know, kind of that real time experimenting,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: trying to get to the heart of what's going on,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: even before he's in space. You're right, all of those moments.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: It just it fits really well and flows in the
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: way that it needs to.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Just so you know, and I don't know
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: if you guys, but Target is offering up to sixty
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: percent off on select outdoor furniture Garden. Yeah, I'm part
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: of Target circle.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: That's good to know.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I think we're still boycotting them. I'm not sure. I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: think it's a great film. I know it's one of
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: the most highly anticipated movies of the year. I think
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Lord and Miller are kind of working on Artemis, which
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: is another Andy wear book. I'd be happy to see
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: them tackle it. I think Andy Weir, kudos to him,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Martian and Project Hill Mary have been exceptional and we
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: can't all say that about books that turn into movies.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: So good for him. I did read and I remember
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: us when we come out. I'm like, I don't know
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: how a guy like either he researches so much for
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: the book, but like all that science mumble trumbo that
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: most of us can't, you.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Know, it's very much like Christopher Nolan stuff.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he is very interested in that stuff, and
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's just part of like, oh, I want
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: to explore this, and obviously the Martian and Project Hill Mary.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've read Artemis. I feel like I have,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: but I don't remember. But all of it has those
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: same elements to it, but it also makes for a
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: good read. And he's I mean, I saw the choices
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: and I guess sending it to Ryan Gosling for whatever reason,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: maybe he's kind of saw Grace as God's and Gosling
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: as a producer now. But I can't think of really
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: a better of a better adaptation that has just such
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: amazing results to watching. Even the changes that are made
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: in the book, it works, and it works for the better,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Like it's not like you're cheating anyone out of it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: The two and a half hours I felt like went
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: by fast. I don't think that. I think part of
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the big picture got Amanda and Sealm were talking about
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: how like seem a little too long. I didn't think so,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: but again, maybe it's because we did read the book.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Uh definitely asking Stony about that, having not read the book,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: and he he agreed that it didn't.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: He's asleep, yes, yeah, he's falling asleep, but I think
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: he would saying that it went by pretty good. And
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: then his wife listened to it like you did, and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I know, really enjoyed it so and I think that's
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: kind of like, I think this is one of those
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: things where people are gonna go and watch it, and
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if it kind of as other
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: people kind of revisit it. I could see this, I
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: could see this really kind of running running the marathon
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: of one of the best of the year critically, commercially,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm all for it. But obviously, if you can,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: imax is the way to go. It really is breathtaking
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to see. I remember one of the things that was
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: the end and it's like just all like it's just
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: red and it's sort of like in his Gossling's image,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: like it just it's it's phenomenal. They were talking about
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: where Gosling's done this. He did First Man, which I liked.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't love Damien Chillzel. He's good in it, but
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that's what talks about the space stuff with what is
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: her name? The SNL skits where he's adopted by aliens.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: McKay he's calls and Gosling has called himself a space case.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Well and we we like I said this after we
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: got out, and I mean this in the best way possible.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: At the beginning of the movie has some things that
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: really reminded me of Rocketman with Harlan Williams kind of
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: this man, I'm not supposed to be here.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: People don't know what you're talking.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Well, they need to go find out Disney movie. They
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: need to go.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I told like, this guy's not supposed to be here,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't know what he's doing. And but it all works
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: because in a way that Rocketman never tries to be
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: he gets to because he's got all the knowledge. He
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: gets to the competency he needs to.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: By the end, as the reminders come flooding in, you
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: realize that he is the right guy for the mission.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: He didn't know it, but others did. And I also
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: think that's a great discovery within the book and within
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the and within the film. So yeah, I project Hill
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Mary's my favorite film of the year.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: YEA. One thing that stuck in my mind that Lord
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: and Miller interview on The Big Picture. They said, in
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: kind of tackling the source material, how big it is,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: and they were talking about just being excited about it,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: but it's also hard, and so they kind of like,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: in a way, their production of the movie was the
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: story of the movie, like, can can you capture this
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: thing that is so difficult? And they said, you've just
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: got to hope you're making someone's favorite movie ever. And
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: I think they really might have.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Done with this. I totally agree. And Gosslin kind of
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: said the same thing, is that making hell Mary was
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: sort of their hell Mary. Yeah, And I'm like, I
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: totally get it. So just just restate your rating.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: For I gave it a five. If I sit on
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: it long enough, I might say four and a half.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: But I voted with my heart.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's well worth it. I
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: did four and a half out of five. I wouldn't
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't down if we go through the year and
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: it ends up being a five out of five. It's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: something I would happily own. I would happily watch again.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think you could recreate that experience in imax,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: but it is such a it's such a beautiful thing
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: that I'm really really grateful that that was my first
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: experience seeing it, and I hope, I hope it is
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: uh for others. So all right, Brett, thanks man, appreciate it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I wanted to really do this. I was excited about it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: We were excited about it when we we saw the movie,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: and the fact that we've read the book. It's very
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: rare because I'm a very slow reader. I'm currently reading
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Cinema what is it called. It's Quentin Tarantino's book.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I can't wait for the movie of that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and and honestly it's kind of fun. I
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: just got reading. I just got done reading about Bullet,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Steve McQueen's movie, and I'm about to start Deliverance, which
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I have seen. Apparently people get raped, I'm not sure,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: but yeah, well sorry, sorry, it is a movie from
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: the seventies. I don't I'm not breaking I'm not breaking
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: news here, but you want to tell people where they
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: can find you letterbox, Twitter.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Facebook, letterbox. I believe is br Macintosh and if not,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: you'll follow somebody else.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know. Uh, Sir Brandon
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: be on Twitter, Sir Brandon on Twitter and uh again,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: project Hell Mary, great film, go see it. I'll join
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the line of people saying see it on the biggest
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: scream possible. It's it's well worth your time and money.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And yeah, that's it until next time. You stay classy moviegoers,