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Steve Price | 27 September · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: If this is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the program. I'm James
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  Speaker 2: Macpherson filling in for Steve Price.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Unable to flee controversy, Jim Chalmers finally weighs in on
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  Speaker 2: the government's negative gearing debarcle.
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  Speaker 3: I'll play that for you in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Also tonight, Dan Andrews to be immortalized in bronze, as
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  Speaker 2: the Allen government confirms the sculpture of Chairman Dan has
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  Speaker 2: been commissioned. I'll speak with one very angry Victorian a
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  Speaker 2: little later. Plus, the countdown is on to the AFL
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  Speaker 2: Grand Final, which has me thinking of this iconic song.
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  Speaker 4: Fins.
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  Speaker 2: Musician Mike Brady will join me live from Melbourne a
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  Speaker 2: little later. But first, if from US release the hostages,
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  Speaker 2: and if Hesbella stopped firing rockets, well we'd have peace
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  Speaker 2: in the Middle East. But as it turns out, terrorists
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  Speaker 2: aren't so crazy about peace. Terrorists love taking hostages, Terrorists
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  Speaker 2: also love firing rockets, and in a twist of fate
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  Speaker 2: no one saw coming. Terrorists also have quite a bit
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  Speaker 2: of support in marginal labour Sydney seats.
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  Speaker 3: That's not conjecture.
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  Speaker 2: Hundreds of people marched through Sydney this week chanting support
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  Speaker 2: for Hezbollah, a registered terrorist organization. Our government is so
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  Speaker 2: concerned about displays like that, they've issued visas to almost
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  Speaker 2: three thousand Palestinians. But don't worry, they've all been security checked.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, some of them were even security checked before
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  Speaker 2: they got here.
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  Speaker 3: Poor fellow, my country.
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  Speaker 2: So what is the federal labor government to do when
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  Speaker 2: terrorists won't play nice and when people supporting terrorist organizations
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  Speaker 2: are weighing up how to vote in next year's federal election. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Penny One went to the United Nations overnight
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  Speaker 2: and berated the Middle East's only liberal democracy for not
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  Speaker 2: playing fair.
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  Speaker 4: War has rules, even when confronting terrorists, even when defending borders.
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  Speaker 4: Civilians need to be protected.
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  Speaker 2: If you really must confront terrorists, and if you really
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  Speaker 2: must defend your.
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  Speaker 3: Borders, well there are rules. Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: Fair minded people around the world are aware just how
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  Speaker 2: far Israel has gone in order to protect civilians. What
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  Speaker 2: other army warned civilians in advance of an attack?
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, she continued.
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  Speaker 4: Nearly a year ago, Hamas killed twelve hundred Israelis the
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  Speaker 4: worst loss of Jewish life in a single day since
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  Speaker 4: the Holocaust, and Hamas terrorists continue to hold hostages.
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  Speaker 2: Was it Joseph Stalin who equipped one death is a tragedy,
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  Speaker 2: a million deaths is a statistic? How quickly our foreign
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  Speaker 2: minister brings a ley mens twelve hundred dead Jews, neglecting
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  Speaker 2: to mention how many of them were first beaten, raped,
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  Speaker 2: burned and beheaded. Oh, and incidentally, Hamas terists continue to
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  Speaker 2: hold hostages. We might pause for a moment and think
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  Speaker 2: about that. Hostages Israeli civilians snatched from their families and
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  Speaker 2: held underground for the past eleven months. One of those
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  Speaker 2: hostages still being held by terrorists is a one year
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  Speaker 2: old baby. I said, we might pause to think about that,
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  Speaker 2: but Australia's Foreign minister was rushing to get to her
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  Speaker 2: preferred talking point, Israel's response.
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  Speaker 4: In Israel's response, over forty thousand Palestinians have been killed,
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  Speaker 4: more than eleven thousand children, and more than three hundred
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  Speaker 4: aid workers since this war began. Gaza is the deadliest
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  Speaker 4: pace on Earth to be an aid worker.
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  Speaker 2: Since this war began. It's such a banal, lazy turn
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  Speaker 2: of phrase. Since Hermas, the governing body of Gaza invaded
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  Speaker 2: a liberal democratic state and started slaughtering people before returning
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  Speaker 2: home to celebrate. Is I think what Pennywong meant to say.
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  Speaker 2: As for the assertion that Gaza is one of the
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  Speaker 2: deadliest places to be an AID worker.
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  Speaker 3: Well, indeed it is.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, even before October seven, Gaza was one
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  Speaker 2: of the deadliest places in the world to be homosexual
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  Speaker 2: or transgender, or a Jew or a Christian. And before
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  Speaker 2: Gaza was one of the deadliest places in the world
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  Speaker 2: to be an AID worker. Just across the border from
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  Speaker 2: Gaza was one of the deadliest places in the world
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  Speaker 2: to be a Jew enjoying a music festival, as almost
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  Speaker 2: four hundred dead young people would attest if they could.
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  Speaker 4: President, the world demands a ceasefire in Gaza. Hostages must
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  Speaker 4: be released, Aid must flow, This humanitarian catastrophe must end.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If the world demanded the release of the hostages rather
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  Speaker 2: than as including them as state knives, that incidentally should
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  Speaker 2: probably come with a ceasefire, then the old whom Penniwong
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  Speaker 2: purports to speak for might see some progress. But the
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  Speaker 2: Australian Labor government doesn't have time for such trivialities as
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  Speaker 2: moral clarity.
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  Speaker 4: We cannot wait for the parties to do this themselves,
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  Speaker 4: and we cannot allow any party to obstruct the prospect
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  Speaker 4: of peace.
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  Speaker 2: By the parties and any party. Australia's Foreign minister is
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  Speaker 2: putting the democratic State of Israel on party with a
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  Speaker 2: violent Islamist terrorist organization, and she wonders why Israel is
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  Speaker 2: disinclined to listen to her or the international community she
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  Speaker 2: claims to represent anyway. Having solved the Gaza situation by
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  Speaker 2: effectively saying Israel should just stop it. Penniwong then moved
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  Speaker 2: her attention to Hesbellah.
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  Speaker 4: Hesbella are terrorists that have not complied with the Security
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  Speaker 4: Council Resolution seventeen oh one, but Lebanese civilians should not
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  Speaker 4: pay the price. De Escalation is urgent. Dialogue is needed
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  Speaker 4: and parties must implement this resolution in full.
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  Speaker 2: Any sentence that effectively begins I agree these guys are
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  Speaker 2: murderous terrorists. However, is never going to end well for
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  Speaker 2: freedom loving people. Pennywong is right that Hesbla has not
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  Speaker 2: complied with Security Council Resolutions seventeen oh one. I might
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  Speaker 2: add that resolution was put in place eighteen years ago.
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  Speaker 2: How can Pennywong say HESBLA is a terrorist organization that
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  Speaker 2: has for the past eighteen years refused to comply with
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  Speaker 2: Security Council resolutions and conclude dialogue is needed.
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  Speaker 3: Does she even listen to herself?
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  Speaker 2: And isn't it amazing how Pennywong wasn't advocating for dialogue
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  Speaker 2: while Hesbella were firing thousands of rockets at Israeli civilians
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  Speaker 2: over the past twelve months. But she's all about everyone
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  Speaker 2: sitting down for a chat now that Israel has decided
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  Speaker 2: to defend itself.
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  Speaker 4: Australia believes Lebanon cannot become the next Gaza. Just as
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  Speaker 4: in Gaza, we call for an immediate cease fire in Lebanon.
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  Speaker 2: Penniwong doesn't want Gaza to become the next Lebanon, or
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  Speaker 2: rather Leon to become the next Gaza. Well you know
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  Speaker 2: Israel doesn't want Northern Israel to become the next Southern Israel,
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  Speaker 2: or tomorrow to become the next October seven. So while
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  Speaker 2: everyone wants peace, the Israelis might be well advised to
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  Speaker 2: ignore everything our government says, and Australians might be well
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  Speaker 2: advised to bear in mind how weak need our government
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  Speaker 2: is in the face of terrorists. God help us if
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  Speaker 2: we were ever in Israel's position, because the United Nations
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  Speaker 2: and Penny Wong sure wouldn't be much assistance.
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  Speaker 3: Now, while Pennywong's.
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  Speaker 2: Performance at the UN made me furious, there was another
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  Speaker 2: speaker who did make me laugh, Haiti President Edgar Phils. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Haiti has been in the news after Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump claimed during the presidential debate that Haitian immigrants resettled
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  Speaker 2: in Springfield, Ohio were eating people's pets in Springfield.
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  Speaker 1: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
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  Speaker 6: They're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets
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  Speaker 6: of the people that live there.
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  Speaker 2: So after that, you can imagine when the Naitian president
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  Speaker 2: spoke at the UN overnight, he told those gather that
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  Speaker 2: his nation was looking for respect and it was all
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  Speaker 2: going very well.
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  Speaker 3: Until this respect.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if he'd done that more confidently, it would
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  Speaker 2: have been a power move. What can I say, public speaking,
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  Speaker 2: it's thirsty work.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers was so desperate to get away from the
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  Speaker 2: negative gearing debacle he flew to China this week, but
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  Speaker 2: even there he was unable to escape the controversy. Finally
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  Speaker 2: being forced to assure everyone back home there was.
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  Speaker 3: No cause for concern.
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  Speaker 2: He was just a treasurer casually examining policy ideas with
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  Speaker 2: no particular agenda in mind of a listen.
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  Speaker 7: It is not unusual for treasurers to do that, but
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  Speaker 7: we have made it very clear through the course of
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  Speaker 7: this week that we have a broad and ambitious housing
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  Speaker 7: policy already and those changes aren't part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Prime Minister has been attempting to clean up
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  Speaker 2: the mess in the way only he knows how, by
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  Speaker 2: making an even bigger mess. He evidently thought the best
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  Speaker 2: way to allay fears of tax changes was to refuse
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  Speaker 2: to rule out tax changes. But according to the Sydney
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  Speaker 2: Morning Herald, two senior government ministers have been saying that
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  Speaker 2: changes to negative gearing and capital gains tax could help
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  Speaker 2: persuade people to vote for labor at the upcoming election.
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  Speaker 3: For this and more of today's top stories.
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined by our Friday regular, former Queensland Premier Campbell
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  Speaker 2: Newman Campbell, great to have your company. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: changes to capital gains tax would persuade voters or turn
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  Speaker 2: them off? Seeing this would just be another broken promise
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  Speaker 2: from a prime minister who's starting to develop a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a reputation.
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  Speaker 6: Look, it was quite comic to see the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 6: in question by our colleague Peter Stefanovic yesterday morning on
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  Speaker 6: this network and deliver the line you know we have
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  Speaker 6: no plans, we have no plans, I mean, and Peter said,
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  Speaker 6: well we've heard that before, Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 1: That was the gist of it. So you know, they
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  Speaker 1: have really.
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  Speaker 6: Shot themselves in the foot this week on this and
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  Speaker 6: you know, maybe they're just a group of sligh learners,
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  Speaker 6: maybe they just don't get it, but there are lots
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  Speaker 6: of people in that middle of Australia who are using
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  Speaker 6: negative gearing or the prospect of a bit of a
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  Speaker 6: free kick on a capital gain to actually get ahead.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 6: And what it does actually do, James, does it make
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  Speaker 6: sure that we have a whole lot of small mum
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  Speaker 6: and dad landlords in this country who provide housing to
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  Speaker 6: people who need to rent. You know, it really gets
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  Speaker 6: me that back in I think it was around eighty
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  Speaker 6: seven eighty eight, the hawk Keating government curtailed negative negative
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  Speaker 6: gearing at that time and it was a disaster. Rents
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  Speaker 6: went through the roof, there was a reduction in the
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  Speaker 6: supply of rental properties, so it doesn't work. Look, the
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  Speaker 6: answer to this whole housing issue, James, is to deregulate.
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  Speaker 6: Do what Argentina has done that new president Malay, where
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  Speaker 6: he's taken a whole lot of these rent controls and
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  Speaker 6: laws off and suddenly there's a whole lot of housing
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  Speaker 6: on the market. The prices have dropped, rents have gone down,
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  Speaker 6: people can find accommodation and that's in the space of
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  Speaker 6: only about a year. So that's what the answer is,
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  Speaker 6: not higher taxes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sadly Campbell, Anthony Alberanzi is no President Malay. We
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  Speaker 2: could but wish I had to laugh when he said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we have no plans, because of course Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Alberanzi for many months talked about we have a plan,
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  Speaker 2: we have a plan for cost of living in this
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  Speaker 2: and now he doesn't have a plan. How do you
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  Speaker 2: think I think this will play out. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: ultimately labor will flip flop on this before the election?
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  Speaker 1: James?
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  Speaker 6: They're traveling really badly. They continue to lurch from disaster
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  Speaker 6: to disaster. Peter Dutton, for all his supposed unpopularity, has
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  Speaker 6: them on the ropes. And I predict if they go
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  Speaker 6: ahead with this, if they don't put this one back
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  Speaker 6: in the put they They've got to get the toothpaste
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  Speaker 6: back in the tube, by the way, so they probably aren't.
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  Speaker 6: But if they were to pursue this, this is the
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  Speaker 6: end of This is the.
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  Speaker 1: Final nail in their coffin.
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  Speaker 6: And I give this advice as someone who did a
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  Speaker 6: lot and I'm told too much in my term twenty
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  Speaker 6: twelve to twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: And I got voted out. Well, guess what will happen
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  Speaker 1: to them.
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  Speaker 6: They'll be out on jet propelled roll skates, James if
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  Speaker 6: they touch this one. Leave it alone, Guys, you should
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  Speaker 6: have learned from twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, can I just say Campbell, as someone who was
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  Speaker 2: living in Queensland when you were premier, you did try
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  Speaker 2: to do a lot, but you're trying to do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good things as opposed to our current federal government.
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  Speaker 3: Different situation.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about Queensland because the
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  Speaker 2: Labor Party there has been slammed for posting quote desperate
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  Speaker 2: and juvenile TikTok videos of opposition leader David Chris Afuley
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  Speaker 2: and of yourself in fact, in one of the videos.
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  Speaker 3: They've labeled you as the devil.
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  Speaker 2: Now I want to talk about this a bit more
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  Speaker 2: a bit later, but you've threatened legal action. Can you
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  Speaker 2: tell us a bit about that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, look, you know, I don't think I'll be doing
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  Speaker 6: that because frankly, it's not worth the time and effort
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  Speaker 6: and the money, and they've spent the best part of
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  Speaker 6: a decade having a go at me in this way.
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  Speaker 6: But what I do say is it it shows great desperation.
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  Speaker 6: But it also is quite sinister because this is the
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  Speaker 6: sort of personal vilification, that sort of targeting the individual,
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  Speaker 6: rather than policies that were seen in the United States
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  Speaker 6: to quite terrible consequences where people are picking up weapons
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  Speaker 6: and trying to assassinate political candidates.
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  Speaker 1: Diavor Party.
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  Speaker 6: Only a few weeks ago, we're carrying on about cooling
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  Speaker 6: down the personal rhetoric, and this was in the context
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  Speaker 6: of sort of attacks on MP's offices, props to do
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  Speaker 6: with the whole Palestidian thing, Gaza, etc. So what don't
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  Speaker 6: they understand, I mean, cool it. I'm not a member
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  Speaker 6: of the l ENPER, haven't been for over three years now.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not supporting the LENP in this election. Per se,
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  Speaker 6: I'm supporting the Libertarian Party and my candidates, people like
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  Speaker 6: Nick Buick in my local area of Clayfield. So to
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  Speaker 6: try and sort of type or old David Christopher Foley
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  Speaker 6: to yours truly is a bit rich as well. But look,
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  Speaker 6: you know people will judge them badly for this. It's
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  Speaker 6: an Australian. It's just desperate and it's all also interesting
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  Speaker 6: to see that Stephen Miles, who's supposed to the lead
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  Speaker 6: of the Labor Party in Queens and to saying, oh,
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  Speaker 6: it's not to do with me, it's the Labor Party,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like how would how would how would how
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  Speaker 6: would Peter Dutton or Tony Abbott get away with that
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  Speaker 6: sort of answer to a question involving the Liberal or
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  Speaker 6: Liberal National parties.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, well, I guess it's a bit of a compliment
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  Speaker 2: to you Campbell that ten years after you were the
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  Speaker 2: premier you're still living rent free in their heads that
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  Speaker 2: these posts have been going on a page labeled Miles HQ.
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  Speaker 2: But Stephen Miles has distanced himself from the post saying no,
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  Speaker 2: it's nothing to do with me.
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  Speaker 8: Have a listen that questions for the Labor Party, the
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  Speaker 8: content of those pages are questions for the Labor Party,
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  Speaker 8: and I having seen some of the remarks from Fiona
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  Speaker 8: Simpson this morning, I suggest you should have a look
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  Speaker 8: at the l MP's page.
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  Speaker 3: These are questions for the Labor Party.
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  Speaker 2: Mister Miles, you're the leader of the Queensland Labor Party.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't he take some responsibility?
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  Speaker 6: And that's what take take responsibility. I mean Tony Abbott
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  Speaker 6: stood in front of someone else's sign that said ditch
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  Speaker 6: the Witch, and we remember what happened there.
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  Speaker 1: But look, I say this to Myles, I keep saying this.
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  Speaker 6: If you want to continue to talk about my track
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  Speaker 6: record from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen, where we turned around.
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  Speaker 1: The hospitals, we had the best surgery.
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  Speaker 6: Waiting times in the nation, we'd ended ambulance ramping, we
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  Speaker 6: had crime dropped by fifteen to twenty percent.
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  Speaker 1: We kicked the bike. He's out of the state.
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  Speaker 6: If you want to debate my track record and your
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  Speaker 6: track record, name the time.
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  Speaker 1: We've got four weeks of an election campaign.
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  Speaker 6: I'm prepared to front up at a mutually agreed time
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  Speaker 6: and location and have it out because he won't do it, James,
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  Speaker 6: because his whole repartee is threadbare and tired, and they
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  Speaker 6: will be voted out. I'm pretty sure about that. In
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  Speaker 6: a few weeks time, it could be a more convincing
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  Speaker 6: election victory for the LNP. Happy to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: That, You're right. His campaign is threadbare and tied.
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  Speaker 2: His tiktoks, Gee, there's something special. Just before I let
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  Speaker 2: you go, it is less than a month until the
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  Speaker 2: Queensland election. The latest News poll has the government headed
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  Speaker 2: for a wipeout, with the LNP ten points clear just quickly.
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  Speaker 2: David Chris A. Foley is reluctant to get to ahead
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  Speaker 2: of himself. Is he right to just play it cool
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  Speaker 2: and keep campaigning as if he's the underdog?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, look he has to do that. And look they're
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  Speaker 6: not doing well enough to absolutely wipe the Labor Party
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  Speaker 6: out at the moment, I'm prepared to predict an LMP victory.
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  Speaker 6: But it's like this, James. Their primary vote, and I
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  Speaker 6: always look at primary votes. Two PP is subject to
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  Speaker 6: all sorts of assumptions. The primary vot, according to the
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  Speaker 6: Newspole is forty two for the LNP. When we lost
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  Speaker 6: in twenty fifteen it was forty one point three. So
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  Speaker 6: the Labor Party are down quite significantly, about seven and
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  Speaker 6: a half percent, but a whole lot of it, about
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  Speaker 6: four of percent of it's gone to the Greens. Of course,
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  Speaker 6: it's going to come back in preferences. So you see,
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  Speaker 6: I believe Chris of Foley could win in a landslide
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  Speaker 6: like twenty twelve, and it requires articulation of a far
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  Speaker 6: more ambitious vision and also taking the fight a lot
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  Speaker 6: more vigorously to the Labor Party in pointing out, for example,
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  Speaker 6: the Labor Party of the people who sold state assets,
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  Speaker 6: they sold the Port of Brisbane, they sold Queensland, Rael
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  Speaker 6: and Queenslanders perhaps need to be reminded of past broken
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  Speaker 6: promises by the Labor Party, but they L and P
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  Speaker 6: don't seem to everyone to do that, mate, and so.
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  Speaker 1: I think they'll win.
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  Speaker 6: But I don't think at this stage there's any cause
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  Speaker 6: for complacency at all.
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  Speaker 2: It will be very interesting to watch what develops over
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  Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks. Campbell Newman, thanks so much
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  Speaker 2: for your time tonight.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Thanks Jay.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Let's turn our attention back to the Middle East now,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: where Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin nettin Yahoo has said he
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: quote shares the aims of the US led initiative for
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: a ceasefire, following reports he rejected the truce. Now this
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: comes as tensions escalate between Israel and Hesblah, with the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: idea of killing the terrorist group's air force chief and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: launching fresh strikes on targets in South Lebanon. Joining me
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to discuss is Deacon University Global Islamic Politics Chair Professor
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Greg Bart and Greg.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Good evening, Good evening, Good to be with you. James.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Can I just get you to take us through the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: latest strikes in Lebanon, just update us on what's been
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: happening overnight.
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: Well, I think well, let's go back to the beginning
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: of the week, James. What's really important to understand is
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: on Monday, around six hundred people were killed in air strikes.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: And the last time we had any sort of death
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: toll like that was back in two thousand and six
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: when Israel was forced by his Bolo provocation to go
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: in the southern Lebanon. Wanted to really decimate his Bula.
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: Didn't achieve that left thirty four days later. That led
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: to a death toll of around twelve thirteen hundred people.
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: So six hundred people on Monday alone, we've seen an escalation,
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: but then we've seen this steady. It's a bit an
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: air campaign so far. Is it about whether it can
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: be solved with an air campaign or where there would
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: have to be some sort of troop operation on the ground.
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: And indeed there's word from the Israeli defense leadership suggesting
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: that they're getting prepared for ground operations. That doesn't mean
• 20:14
  Speaker 9: it's all out war, but it does mean that they
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: want to sort of double down on what by Sally,
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: there is a moment of weakness for his buide because
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: before Mondays strikes we had the pages blowing up and
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: then the next day of the walking talkies. That was
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: a plot that was put in place probably two years ago.
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: It may have come prematurely because of fear of being discovered,
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: but it was probably put in place to soften up
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: his ball ahead of an offensive, and we're beginning to
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: see something of that offensive happening through this week.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: In terms of the overall campaign, did Israel have much
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: of a choice? I mean, their citizens have been bombarded
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: by a barrage of missiles about eleven thousand I think
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: over the last twelve months about eighty thousand Israelies that
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: have to leave their homes. Surely Israel could not tolerate
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: this situation. Indeed, I can't imagine any other nation on
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Earth being told they should tolerate it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Look, it's a terrible situation all round. And bear
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: in mind for the people of Lebanon. Lebanon is a
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: multi dimensional crisis. It doesn't have a president, doesn't have
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: a really functioning government. It's a failing state. The economies
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: in the toilet, and most Lebanese, if not most Sheer Lebanese,
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: who make up around twenty seven percent the other three
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: quarters of the country don't have a lot of respect
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: or time for his Buller. And see that his Bulla
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: has just rained terror down upon the people of Lebanon
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: by provoking an Israeli response. Now, you know, there's there's
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: plenty of criticism go around all sides. But it looks
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: as if his Buller when it started this campaign on
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: October eighth, so the day after the terrible Hamas terror
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: attack of October seventh, it started a rocket campaign as
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: a kind of a limited, you know, not hot war,
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: but a warm war. You could say that it thought
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: it controlled the escalation. It now seems that it's sort
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: of backed itself unto a corner that his Bola doesn't
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: find a way out. The pages strikes, the walkie talkies
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: and then the air strikes clearly have left his blo
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: are in a very weakened position. And to go back
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: to your original question, Yeah, sixty thousand Israelis displaced from
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: the north of Israel, probably similar number of people across
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: the border in southern Lebanon, a lot of suffering all around.
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: The expectation of may have been that it would go
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: on for some months, but it's coming up to the
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: twelfth month deadline eighth of October will be twelve months,
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: and there seems to be no way out. So it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: not surprising that either there was going to be a
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: diplomatic breakthrough or a military breakthrough. Now it's conceivable there
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: could have been a diplomatic breakthrough, but that slipped away
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: over recent weeks. Israel's hoping for a military breakthrough, not
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: to destroy his bilo, but to push it north. The
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: boundary line is north of the Latani River, so about
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: thirty kilometers north of the Israeli border, so that it
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: takes its short range rockets out of range and you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: turns down the temperature on this conflict and then things
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: get back to a sort of a normal stasis. And
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: it's hoping to achieve that by really pummeling his bulla
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: and also affecting a forced evacuation built from the south,
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: so that it becomes a crisis that can't be tolerated
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: and that there is a breakthrough. But no one really
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: knows what comes next, because of course it is a
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: risky situation that could be escalation further.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Greg, I've got to go to a break, but just
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: very quickly before we go to the break, Ntnya, who
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: will address the UN General Assembly tomorrow our time. How
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: important is that address?
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: Look, it's really important. Israel has lost a lot of
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: support around the world. The terrible situation in Gazo has
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: made it very tough. Netnya, who's widely criticized for looking
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: after his own interests. I don't know what he can
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: deliver it at the U in General Assembly that can
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: turn that around, but he certainly needs to. I think
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: he needs to speak about strategy and end goal because
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: one of the criticisms has been it's all tactics. There's
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: no clear sense of where this ends. And I think
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: if you can speak to where it ends, people will
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: begin to listen more.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Well, Greg Marton, appreciate your time tonight.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Still to come.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Less than twenty four hours until the AFL Grand Final,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: which means musician Mike Brady will soon be performing his
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: iconic song up There Kazale, forty five years after he
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: first wrote it. He joins me live shortly plus. Daniel
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Andrews legacy to be immortalized with a statue, and some
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Victorians aren't happy about it. I can't imagine why that's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: up next, welcome back to the program. Well, then, use
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: that will excite pigeons everywhere. Former Victorian Premier Dan Andrews
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: is to be immortalized with a bronze statue. The State
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Labor government has confirmed a sculpture of Chairman Dan has
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: been commissioned, just one year after he left office. The
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: government's refusing to say how much the Dan Andrews memorial
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: will cost, but if it's a realistic representation of the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: former premier, it'll arrive ten years late and three million
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: dollars over budget. Andrews became eligible for a statue under
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: a policy introduced by former Liberal Premier Jeff Kennett. Back
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: in the nineties, the policy stipulated that a statue would
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: be made to recognize any premier who shut down the
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: state for two hundred and sixty two days. Sorry, my
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: bad for any premier who served the state for three
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: thousand days. Prime Minister Anthony Albanez he laughed off questions
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: today about whether or not he thought a statue honoring
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Dan Andrews was appropriate. That's a question for Jeff Kennett, really,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: someone who I have only one thing in common with
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Jeff Kennett, which is where both Hawthorne support us.
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: Other than that, we have nothing in common. And I
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: can confirm that I was not a part of Jeff
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: Kennett's decision about you get a statue after three thousand days.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Funny how Alberanezi says he and Kennett share a love
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: for Hawthorne. Elbow also shares a love for the Collingwood Magpies,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the Sydney Swans and the Geelong Cats.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: But I digress. Read the room, Prime Minister.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Victorians aren't laughing about a statue for Dan Andrews.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: They're seething.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: In the same week, Victorians learned they'll be paying millions
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: for Glasgow to host the Commonwealth Games. They've also learned
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: they'll be coughing up for a Dan Andrews' statue to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: look down on them like a demonic gargoyle. But there
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: might be an upside here. If the government charges people
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: five dollars a turn to throw a tomato at the statue, well,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the state's one hundred and fifty six billion dollar debt
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: could be paid off in less than a week. I'm
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: joined now by AFL great and hotel owner Paul de Mattina. Paul,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: thanks so much for your time today. You were very
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: vocal during the pandemic about how divisive Dan Andrews was
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and how we ruled Victoria by fear, and you're not
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: alone in those views. Do you think that type of
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: legacy deserves a statue.
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: I think it's an insult, to be honest with you,
• 26:57
  Speaker 11: just to see elbow any smug labor can parts in
• 27:00
  Speaker 11: the background there with the smirks on their face. I
• 27:02
  Speaker 11: don't think they realize the destruction they're causing our country,
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: Like businesses are, you know, we're in all sorts of business.
• 27:08
  Speaker 11: World is not great at the moment, and we're going
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: to spend one hundred thousand whatever it is on a
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: statue of a moron. I just I'm gobsmacked, and I think,
• 27:15
  Speaker 11: like a lot of people, totally disgusted and insulted about
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: what's happening. There's a lot of better ways to spend
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: our taxpayer money, and as I said, it's just another
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: kick in the teeth. So anyway, we're stuck with these
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: labor morons for another year, and hopefully people will wake
• 27:28
  Speaker 11: up eventually to know the crook and the krrupt Dan
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: Andrews that he is and have a statue, as I said,
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: just the biggest insult there is.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the cost to taxpayers, and costings are
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: still under wraps, though some have said it would be
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: around the vicinity of one hundred thousand dollars, So it's
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: not going to be cheap whatever the cost, but surely
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the money could be better spent, especially in the middle
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: of a cost of living crisis.
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: Just drive down our roads at the moment, there's potholes everywhere.
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: There money that we spend, well, it's misspent. And you
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: know we've got bans and Ban's dollars in debt and
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: everything is well over budget, and we know the reasons why.
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: I don't know how we keep putting up with it,
• 28:07
  Speaker 11: and honest taxpayers like myself that just keep getting lump
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: with these bills. And as I said, it's insulting, it's
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: disrespectful to a lot of Victorians out there. So better
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: ways of spending money, fix our roads, you know, get
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: on top of the health crisis, with what's going on
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: in the hospitals. I know the police are upset they
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: need a pay rise, so you know, there's dissatisfaction everywhere
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: across every Victorian.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And then we're we find.
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: Out we're gonna have a statu The good thing about
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: the statute it'll be defaced every day, so bring it on,
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: Bring it on, and watch it be chopped down every
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: other day for someone that no one really liked. Maybe
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: a handful of you know, sort of idiotic Victorians revered
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: the man, but the rest of us, you know, see through,
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: see through it all.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the only person who'll be happy about
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: this statue is probably Captain Cook because for the first
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: time he won't be the immediate target of vandals. You
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: run a fantastic pub in Melbourne. But just remind me again,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: what was it like for business people during that pandemic
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and the way the government treated them.
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: We're treated like second class citizens. Not just the businesses.
• 29:10
  Speaker 11: You know, my kids and every other kid that had
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: to sort of do the homeschooling and missed out on
• 29:14
  Speaker 11: some really sort of formative years of their life and
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: a lot of the education that they probably didn't receive,
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: you know, just being locked in our house and having
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: someone I think the most disgusting thing I ever heard
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: Dan Andrews say, was dob your neighboring. I mean, wasn't
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: that one of our great Australian traits was to love
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: thy neighbor and you know you look after your mate.
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: You've got this guy telling us if someone does something wrong,
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: dob them in. It's just an Australian and as I said,
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: to have a statue now, just it's a kick in
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: the guts to a lot of Victorians. But you know
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: a lot of businesses still haven't recovered from the pandemic.
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: Just go through our CBD and look at the amount
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: of closures there is is just vacant tendencies everywhere. That
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: city is a ghost town. Still trying to tell me
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: it's back to what it was is just an absolute lie.
• 29:57
  Speaker 11: The truth is there's a lot of businesses that are
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: hurting and you're going to see more and more closures
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: again in the next probably six to twelve months. We're
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: over governed, way too many taxes and there's just not
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: enough incentive to want to be a business owner anymore.
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: And you know that's why people are taking their business
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: into state. And I for one will never open up
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: another business in Melbourne, not while we're governed the way
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: we are at the moment.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll Certainly Victoria is not in a good state
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: and Dan Andrews gets a statue for all his work.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Pauled Himtima, I really appreciate your time tonight, my pleasure. Okay,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: So it's not all bad in Victoria because tomorrow is
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: of course the AFL Grand Final, where the Sydney Swans
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: face off against the Brisbane Lions.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: For the twenty twenty four premiership.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And it wouldn't be an AFL Grand Final without this songs. Well,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Australian music icon Mike Brady is preparing for another up
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: there because ali Grand Final performance forty five years after
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: he wrote that iconic song, and I'm pleased to say
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Mike Brady joins me Live from Melbourne, Mike. Great to
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: have you on. I was eighty years old when you
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: wrote that song, and I remember Mom and Dad buying
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the record for me. It was in a little paper
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: sleeve and played it non stop. And now I've got
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: nineteen year old twin boys who loved that song and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: sing it with you every grand final day. Did you
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: ever imagine when you wrote it that it would become
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: such a phenomena?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't give.
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: It a great deal of fort James, really, because I
• 31:44
  Speaker 12: was only two and a half at the time when
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: I rose it way back in nineteen seventy nine. But
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: it's wonderful that it has become. It's gone into the language.
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: It was already an expression that was used fairly widely
• 31:57
  Speaker 12: in Melbourne and a number of plays, including I think
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: The Summer of the seventee Ish Doll in Kids Stakes
• 32:05
  Speaker 12: one of the trilogy, it was used. And I happened
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: to have watched that or seen that the night before
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: by the Melbourne Theater Company, so didn't really understand it,
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: but you know, I say I did, But no, it's wonderful.
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: It's wonderful that it's been around so long, and like
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: you just said, my two grandchildren here from Ireland now
• 32:23
  Speaker 12: they live in Australia and one.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Of them has really fallen in love.
• 32:26
  Speaker 12: With Australian football and he's coming to the mcg on
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: Saturday and he says, I can't wait to see your Pamber.
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: I can't wait to call me Pamber.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know why, I believe, tell me if I've
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: got this right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: The history of the song was Australian Cricket had a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: song Come On as He Come On, and Channel seven
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: wanted something similar because that was so successful for the cricket,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: they wanted something similar for the football and that's why
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: they engaged you.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Is that how it came about?
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: It is? There is an advertising agency I don't think
• 32:58
  Speaker 12: they're in the sixths anymore called Campaign Palace and I
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: did a bit of work for them, and that was
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: the brief basically, do you know anything about Australian football?
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: And me being a poem and two of the guys
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: that were briefing me were both poems. I said, oh,
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: I played it a bit at school, but I don't
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: know a lot about it. But you kind of need
• 33:17
  Speaker 12: a cats cry it on. She's like something like up
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: there Kauzlien. One of them said, oh, I've never heard
• 33:22
  Speaker 12: of it, and the other one said, I know, I
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: think that sounds pretty good. I don't know what it means,
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: but could you make it a meaningful song? Because, as
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: you say, in nineteen seventy eight, Coming as He Come
• 33:34
  Speaker 12: On was a huge hit number one. A couple of
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: my mates wrote it, Alan Johnson and Alan Morris Mojo.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And I had to have a crack at it and
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: managed to do it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: So how many times have you performed this song?
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: Now?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Forty five years ago you wrote it? How many times
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: have you performed it on Grand Final.
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: Day on GRANDFA today? I think it's around about twenty
• 33:57
  Speaker 12: to twenty two. I'm really not sure I've done it
• 33:59
  Speaker 12: in the formats. Forty five years ago was when I
• 34:03
  Speaker 12: first performed it, and I've done it for the last
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: twelve years eleven or twelve years in a row. So
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: I feel like, you know, I kind of deserve long
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: service leave after all that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Mike, I don't know if you're aware of this, but
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Michael Tuck, he's a famous Hawthorne footballer. He participated in
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: eleven Grand Finals, so you've participated in twenty, so you
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: are the most prolific Grand finalist in AFL history.
• 34:32
  Speaker 12: I was talking to one of the great players today
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: and I said, you're entertainers too, That's what I do.
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: The difference is I've got no broken fingers and I
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: shake their hands, and of course a lot of them
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: they've broken every bone in their body, just about same
• 34:46
  Speaker 12: as n RL.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: What's it like walking out in front of one hundred
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: thousand people on Grand Final day? Do you ever get
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: used to it or does it just become second nature
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: and it's no big deal now.
• 34:59
  Speaker 12: I was very nervous the first year, and I'm much
• 35:02
  Speaker 12: more relaxed now. But the wonderful thing is the warmth
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: I feel from the crowd. Even before I get to
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: where I sing. They put me in a little milk
• 35:09
  Speaker 12: crate down the front before the headliner comes on where
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: that may be Katy Perry this year. But I feel
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: a real warmth from the crowd. You know, they have
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: got on your mic and right all the way up
• 35:22
  Speaker 12: the stands and they all clap and as I walk out,
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: and I haven't even done the thing yet. So it
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: is a great sense of belonging. Being an immigrant kid.
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: I'm smiling all the time and says, because I'm chuckling
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: to myself at the irony of writing what I suppose
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: has become a folk song, modern folk song, when I
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: didn't really have any roots in Australian football at all.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Right now, I don't want to be rude or inappropriate,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: but I mean I have to ask you. An iconic song,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: it is the song of the AFL. Has it made
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: you filthy rich?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: No?
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: No, because Australia is a small market. Really it's not,
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: you know, it's not. The big game is Europe and
• 36:02
  Speaker 12: of course America, South America. So it was so number one,
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: it was the biggest Australian number one of all time.
• 36:09
  Speaker 12: But no, it hasn't. But I still get you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: when I do a show and I do a lot
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: of entertaining, corporate speaking, all that sort of stuff. If
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: it's not going so well, I know I've got something
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: great at the end that I can finish with. I've
• 36:23
  Speaker 12: got a big one. I've got a big finish. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: may not have a great beginning, but I've got a
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: good ending.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Katie Perry before, she's the big headline act tomorrow.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: You're looking forward to that?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am.
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: I meta yesterday at the press conference. And she's a
• 36:39
  Speaker 12: very funny person. She's got a great wit and very funny,
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: very self effacing, and I was quite surprised. I saw
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: someone posted on the on the google Ometer that her
• 36:53
  Speaker 12: running around the mcg taking species and kicking of football
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: in a pair of high heels and long dress. Actually
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: what she wasn't bad. She was a track and field
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: compared to that. So high heels, that long and just
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: as long as my little thing. Why does my little
• 37:09
  Speaker 12: finger quite amazing?
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Really, there you go.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I learned something about yourself and about Katie Perry tonight. Hey,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: before I let you go, I got to ask you,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: are you neutral tomorrow or will you be supporting one
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: of the teams swansa Lions.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Which way you're going to go? Well?
• 37:25
  Speaker 12: I grew up in the same suburb as the Swans.
• 37:28
  Speaker 12: It was the South Melbourne. But they're both of course,
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: they're national teams, they're interstate teams. But they have Melbourne DNA,
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: they really do, and they respect that. I think both
• 37:38
  Speaker 12: the teams have been fantastic keeping their fans from the
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: old days around. But I favor I think it's going
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: to be fairly tight. But I do favor these Swans.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I have to say that well, Mike Brady, I can
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: assure you when you're performing that song tomorrow at the MCG,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I'll be at home with my kids and we will
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: be singing along in the lounge room with you. Good
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: luck for tomorrow. I appreciate you joining me tonight.
• 38:03
  Speaker 12: Thank you very much, James, and take a couple of
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: speaker's on the couch.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely well after the break the Voice failed, but state
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: governments are still pushing for treaties. The latest move in
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: one state we'll have you scratching your head, plus the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: bizarre tool being used to teach children about climate change.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: All of that with my panel in just a moment.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Well, plenty more to get through tonight, so let's not
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: waste any time. I want to bring in our Friday
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: panel joining me as Small Business Women Australia CEO Amanda
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Rose and Skynews contributor Gary Hardgrave. Welcome to you both now.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Despite the failure of the Voice referendum, state governments across
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the country insist we need indigenous treaties. In New South Wales,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the Men's government has appointed three commissioners to conduct a
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: twelvemonth long listening tour to work out how to create
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: an indigenous treaty process, Amanda. These commissioners they're going to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: travel across the state and then they're going to deliver
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: a report so the government can work out how to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: implement a treaty between the New South Wales government and
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: a small proportion of its own citizens.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Is this a good news of taxpayer money?
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Well, put it this way, it obviously is saying we're
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: not listening to them now, right, So that's actually quite
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: exposing a weakness or something they're doing. But if they're
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: going to provide that, I have no problems with them
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: doing that as long as they provided to everyone else.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: So where's the listening to her for the people with disabilities?
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Where's the listening to her for the farmers and those
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: in the rule you know, New South Wales? Where's the
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: listening tour for our young people? We need to make
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: sure everyone has heard and treated equally because if not,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: what you're actually doing is creating a divisive community and
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: people will turn on those that have an opportunity when
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: others don't.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Gary, I thought we had that opportunity.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: It's called the ballot box. Every three or four years,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: isn't it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
• 40:03
  Speaker 13: And the job of every member, state, federal council, whatever
• 40:06
  Speaker 13: it is, is to be listening constantly, you know one
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: of these two of those, that's the plan. They should
• 40:13
  Speaker 13: be shutting up and listening.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And the thing I have.
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: The problem I've got with all of this sort of
• 40:17
  Speaker 13: stuff is it actually says to members of Parliament, don't.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Worry about Aboriginal stuff.
• 40:21
  Speaker 13: Give it to the three people who are wandering around
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: the state on the taxpayer teat for the next twelve months.
• 40:26
  Speaker 13: So they're actually abrogating their responsibility to look after all
• 40:30
  Speaker 13: of their constituents. And this is just politically pathetic. It
• 40:35
  Speaker 13: is about creating division. I do not want represent representative
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: a parthe height. I don't want separate development. I want
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: all Australians, whether they be Christian, Muslim, whether they be Jewish,
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: whether they be Aboriginal, whether they be thirty eight percent Scottish,
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: like people like me, whatever we are, we're all in
• 40:53
  Speaker 13: this country together. And the idea of separate flags being flown,
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: the idea of separate commiss is responsible for some people
• 41:01
  Speaker 13: is wrong, But I mean I think a man is right.
• 41:04
  Speaker 13: The fact that all these different other groups want to
• 41:06
  Speaker 13: be listened to as well, is true, but that's the
• 41:09
  Speaker 13: job of a local member, and if the local members
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: not doing them, vote them out.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Pretty simple. Absolutely.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: My other problem with this whole treaty process, Amanda, is
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: a treaty is between two parties. So the government are
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: going to do a tour to listen to what Indigenous
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: people think about a treaty, But who's surveying non Indigenous
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: people because are we not the other party?
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Well, that's true, and I thought everyone already decided on
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: what they wanted in a referendum, which is the whole
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: depocritic process. So what it's also saying is if you
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: disagreed with the government, we don't care. We're going to
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: do what we want anyway. And that really isn't what
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Australia is about. And it's quite disheartening, and like Gary's right,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: the reality is they might think this is great, but
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you the Australians are quiet, but they will
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: vote you out if they don't like what they say
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: or what you're doing.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Well, we can only hope, Amanda, We can only hope. Now.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I want to move on to another issue that's really
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: fascinating me.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Fascinating. It's just frustrating me.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Actually, Australia is pushing to hold the Taliban to account
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: following its crackdown on Afghan women's freedoms. Pennywong announced that
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Australia will join Canada, Germany and the Netherlands in spearheading
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: a challenge to the Taliban under an international convention on
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: eliminating Discrimination against Women. Gary, I want to ask you,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: is this pure virtue signaling? I mean, do we really
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: think the Taliban are up late at night worrying about
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: international conventions, let alone the opinions of Penny Wong.
• 42:40
  Speaker 13: Look, I don't think many Australians are worrying about the
• 42:44
  Speaker 13: opinions of Pennywog either. Look, Pennywong is in a dreadful
• 42:47
  Speaker 13: mess right now. She doesn't know what she's doing on
• 42:49
  Speaker 13: multiple fronts, and this is just another one of them. Look,
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: let's not forget that if it hadn't been for the
• 42:56
  Speaker 13: hapless withdraw all out of Afghanistan, the Taliban would not
• 42:59
  Speaker 13: be having the sort of power they've got right now.
• 43:01
  Speaker 13: Joe Biden should be joined in any of this legal action,
• 43:05
  Speaker 13: frankly for the way in which he administered that departure.
• 43:09
  Speaker 13: The Taliban are doing dreadful things to women in Afghanistan
• 43:12
  Speaker 13: every day. Women and girls have gone backwards in Afghanistan
• 43:15
  Speaker 13: every day. So I understand the point about it. But
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: the international left are all into this big distraction thing.
• 43:22
  Speaker 13: You know, they're giving comfort to Hezbollah at the moment
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: they're saying Israel, you know, withdraw stop, you have your
• 43:29
  Speaker 13: cease far and all this sort of stuff, just when
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: they've got the foot literally on the throats of these
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: bad buggers and they're being financed again by Iran. Another
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: Joe Biden does us I mean, James. Everywhere you turn,
• 43:41
  Speaker 13: the Left are trying to distract us, divide us, and
• 43:43
  Speaker 13: create this stuff. No, they're not going to be worried.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: About legal action.
• 43:46
  Speaker 13: I mean, they're hardly going to comply with any result
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: what court's going.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: To do it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 13: But we can all agree that they are bad to
• 43:54
  Speaker 13: women and girls, and I think that is something Australia
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: should have of you on. So you know, part of
• 43:58
  Speaker 13: me says yes, but a lot of me says, this
• 44:00
  Speaker 13: is just a complete waste of time and money.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: A waft tam.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, Gary, I agree with you.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Australia should have a strong view on the rights of women.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: But what I can't get my head around, Amanda, is,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: of course this government is very worried about the rights
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: of women in far off Afghanistan. Meanwhile here in Australia
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: they're struggling to define what a woman actually is and
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: to protect the integrity of women's spaces and women's sports,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: which is more important right now for people in Australia.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Well, it's true that we need to be focusing on
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: our own backyard. And Pennywong did mention that she didn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: like the fact that girls were being denied education. We
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: have women being denied education and financial independence and domestic
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: violence situations everywhere in this country. And they're perpetrators. They
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: go to court, they get a lit off in baw
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: and they're repeat offenders. So if we're going to worry
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: about the safety of girls and women, let's worry about
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: them here and let's make sure they're protected in their
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: own homes and in our own country before we worry
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: about others.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Great point. Great point.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Right, Let's go to the US because the countdown is
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: on towards the election, and what better way of getting
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: an idea of voter sentiment than to ask kids, or
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: at least I think CNN thought it was a good idea,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: but then they went to a classroom and the students
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: did not hold back.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Have listened to this. It'd be good for us to have.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: A black woman ash president for the first time in history.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but my vote's kind of still on Trump.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: What's the first word that pops into your head when
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: you hear the name Kamala Harris.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Liar, Gary, doesn't this prove you have to train people
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: to be dumb enough to vote Democrat?
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that certainly does. Look I think that Trump will prevail.
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: I know that some people think that's a bold prediction,
• 45:49
  Speaker 13: But look, I think the kids are exposing what they're
• 45:51
  Speaker 13: hearing at home. And I think a lot of blokes
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: are afraid to speak up because of some of the
• 45:56
  Speaker 13: views of some of the women who are hearing some
• 45:58
  Speaker 13: of the stuff on or TV show like The View.
• 46:00
  Speaker 13: But I think there is a shy Trump vote out there.
• 46:04
  Speaker 13: The kids are exposing what they're hearing in the households,
• 46:06
  Speaker 13: and Trump is actually creative, He is entertaining, He is
• 46:10
  Speaker 13: an entertainer.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: He speaks from the heart.
• 46:13
  Speaker 13: And you know, James, I've given a lot of speeches
• 46:15
  Speaker 13: over the years, and people say, how do you give
• 46:16
  Speaker 13: a speech? And I said, you speak from your heart
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: or you speak from your head. Unfortunately, in Kamala Harris's case,
• 46:22
  Speaker 13: it proves why she should be mute, because she's not
• 46:24
  Speaker 13: thinking and she actually doesn't believe anything. And I think
• 46:27
  Speaker 13: the kids are seeing through her, and I hope that
• 46:30
  Speaker 13: that is what will prevail, because frankly, Trump will undo
• 46:34
  Speaker 13: a lot of this green madness that's destroying economies like
• 46:37
  Speaker 13: ours right around the world. And that's the reason why
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: I hope Americans back him in back into the White House.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, look, I like hearing kids speak like kids,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: but I don't like being spoken to like I'm a kid.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: And yet that's exactly how Tim Waltz's wife insists on
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: talking to voters like their preschoolers. Brace for maximum cringe
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: and have a look at this.
• 46:57
  Speaker 12: Are you ready?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Let's you're a loud and like we said.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: Mister Trump, mister Vance, please.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Mind your own business.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Oh that was excellent.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Amanda, you do a lot of public speaking.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Has someone taught her to speak like that?
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Well, just like Gary said that children will reflect what
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: they hear at home, maybe that's how she speaks to
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: her husband.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: At home, and that is genuine.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: I think that people what people do in public, they're
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: doing in private tenfold right. But it is very condescending,
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: it is about it's very offensive and really, to be honest,
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: it would have actually worked if she rhymed.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I hope he's not speaking to her husband like that.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine how bad that would be. We're going
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: to go in a minute, but just quickly, I want
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: to show you a photo.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Gary.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Check out this puppet doll that appeared in Rocha in
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the UK and Manchester. This dollar is to teach children
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: about climate change. We're worried about kids being anxious about
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: climate change. I'm not sure that dollar is going to
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: alleviate any of their fears.
• 48:10
  Speaker 13: No, and it's going to live on like Chucky in
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: my brain after seeing the pictures.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Look, I reckon the child abuse that's.
• 48:18
  Speaker 13: Being done to kids day in day out in schools
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: around the world, including in this country, is dreadful. Telling
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: kids there's no future, the climate is going to destroy them,
• 48:26
  Speaker 13: that the world is burning is wrong.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It's rubbish.
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: It's rubbish science and we've got to leave the kids alone.
• 48:32
  Speaker 13: Let the kids feel encouraged and nurture to go on
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: and be great people in the future. There's a great
• 48:37
  Speaker 13: future for all of us if we're willing to work
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: at it and reward that effort.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: That's what I reckon, absolutely.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more well, Gary Hargrave, Amanda Rose, thank
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: you so much for your time. Always great chatting to you,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: and thanks for your company tonight. Steve Price will be
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: back next week, but stay tuned because coming up in
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: just a moment is Primetime with the Nikki de Georgio