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Normally Podcast: Friends, Phones & Far-Fetched Theories · Normally

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  Speaker 1: We're back on normally the show with normalish takes for
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  Speaker 1: when the news gi it's weird, and today we have
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  Speaker 1: normalish takes on all your questions because it's a show's true,
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  Speaker 1: there's no news. I'm at the lake, as you can tell,
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  Speaker 1: because if you see this on video, I'm like basically
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  Speaker 1: a billboard right now with all my gear. I am
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  Speaker 1: Mark Asinham.
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  Speaker 2: And I am Carol Markowitz, and I would say these
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  Speaker 2: are going to be our least normalish takes.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, So shall we get Let's do it? Yeah. One
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  Speaker 1: listener asked, how did you two meet? It seems like
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  Speaker 1: you've been friends for a while. Thanks for the show.
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  Speaker 2: We have been friends for a while, like a really
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  Speaker 2: long time. But I would say we met somewhere in
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  Speaker 2: the early two thousands. It was post nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 2: I had a blog Were you at hot Air when
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  Speaker 2: we met?
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  Speaker 1: Possibly or even maybe slightly before or that I had.
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  Speaker 1: I had sort of done things affiliated with Hot Air,
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  Speaker 1: but wasn't necessarily employed with them, so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people knew me from that. But yeah, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was just the early blogging days and I noticed your
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  Speaker 1: old blog Alarming News.
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  Speaker 2: Alarming News, that's right, and we would.
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  Speaker 1: We would see each other at various events and also
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  Speaker 1: hang out sometimes in New York City, back when the
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  Speaker 1: two of us were just like wild single gals. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: about the Institute of Marriage and Institute marriage and whether
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  Speaker 1: we would enter into said agreements in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Funny right that we were kind of like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know about this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: testament to how when you meet the right person.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say that, yeah, yeah, we were
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  Speaker 2: dating the wrong people. Let's be real here. They were
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  Speaker 2: very nice. They were very nice people, but they were
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  Speaker 2: not the right people for us. One of the cool
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  Speaker 2: things that we did together was we saw the nine
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  Speaker 2: to eleven conspiracy start to develop, and we did kind
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  Speaker 2: of a prank on one of the anniversaries of nine
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  Speaker 2: to eleven where we printed pamphlets that said the truth
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  Speaker 2: about nine to eleven, and then when you open the pamphlet,
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  Speaker 2: it was like, the story that is the official truth
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  Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, because that's actually what happened. Nineteen
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  Speaker 2: terrors boarded planes and crash them into our buildings, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the story. Even so, Yeah, but you know, people
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  Speaker 2: would be like annoyed and be like, you know, walking
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  Speaker 2: by us, and we'd be like, you know, read the
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  Speaker 2: truth about nine to eleven, and then we'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: read it, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: And read it. Yeah, and the truth thirs themselves would
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  Speaker 1: be confronted with the truth, right, we were on their side. Gosh,
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  Speaker 1: that is a vintage.
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  Speaker 2: That is this video of that somewhere there's definitely video
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  Speaker 2: of that exists somewhere in the universe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm try to have it, but because of my
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  Speaker 1: like probable ADHD, I would never be able to find it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just somewhere in my many many files.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it might be on YouTube or something. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well somebody actually asks why is your podcast not on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube or listed on YouTube? Podcast search finds nothing, And
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  Speaker 2: I will be real with you, we don't know how
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  Speaker 2: to do it, just like the thing is that this
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  Speaker 2: pays us that when you download our podcast, we get
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  Speaker 2: paid I personally, and maybe I think, MK, you're in
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  Speaker 2: the same boat. I just don't know how to get
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  Speaker 2: it started on YouTube and elsewhere. Maybe we will in
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  Speaker 2: the future, but we're both barely jammed and have a
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  Speaker 2: ton of things going on, and we can't kind of
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  Speaker 2: learn this new skill that we've maybe should be learning.
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  Speaker 1: No, Sometimes I think back about my old YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 1: which I started in like two thousand and.
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  Speaker 2: You could be rich right now if I just.
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  Speaker 1: Stuck with that, I would yeah, have many, many many
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  Speaker 1: followers now subscribers now. But but yeah, I think one
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  Speaker 1: of the things about being a working mom who loves
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  Speaker 1: to hang out with her kids is Carol and I
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  Speaker 1: are always looking to do biggest bang for your buck, right,
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  Speaker 1: so that's working. What's the thing that we can do
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  Speaker 1: and also do all the rest of the things we're
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  Speaker 1: doing and uh and this turns out to be the
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  Speaker 1: best way to do it for us, right Yeah, but yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm open to it. I as my mk hammer channel
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  Speaker 1: from two thousand and seven a tests but right, well,
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  Speaker 1: we tried.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of tried it when we first launched. Normally
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  Speaker 2: we did clips on YouTube and on rumble. But unless
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  Speaker 2: you're posting like you know, kind of like the the
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  Speaker 2: really catchy titles and the and you get you know,
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  Speaker 2: the cliffhanger episodes, it just it doesn't quite work. People
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  Speaker 2: aren't looking to like maybe they are, but we just
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  Speaker 2: didn't do it right. I don't know, but we just
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  Speaker 2: didn't have the You'll never believe what happens next, you know,
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  Speaker 2: So that's not ours, No, it's really not. But going
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  Speaker 2: back to conspiracy theories, somebody asks of all the political
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy theories which are usually the currency of the non
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  Speaker 2: normies from JFK being assassinated by the mafia, t chemtra else,
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  Speaker 2: which causes you actual pause. I don't know. I used
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  Speaker 2: to say I was a sun truther, like I thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for a long time it was like sun
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  Speaker 2: is very very bad for you, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: is it though? But I feel like people have that's
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  Speaker 2: been kind of it's caught up, Like I, I'm no
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  Speaker 2: longer a sun truther. We're all sun truthers now. People,
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  Speaker 2: people know that being out in the sunshine is actually
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  Speaker 2: not terrible for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any I I would say that
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  Speaker 3: the one, the one that I sort of like is
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  Speaker 3: my guilty pleasure, is.
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  Speaker 1: That I think the Clintons are up to way worse
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  Speaker 1: than has been publicly exposed. Just all the time. My
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  Speaker 1: default assumption is that those two are just up to
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  Speaker 1: pretty good worst up to the worst. Yeah. So I
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  Speaker 1: would say that that's the one I could be convinced on.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when people sure.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure that's a conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 1: No, it might not, but uh, I have I have
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  Speaker 1: darker thoughts about them than the publicly approved version. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: can I can? I ask this one? Did you see
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  Speaker 1: this one about you're in charge of casting a biopic
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  Speaker 1: of the Trump second administration? Who do you cast? Is Trump?
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  Speaker 1: Rubio hag Seth, Wiles gabbered, Kennedy, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: And that's tough? I, oh, do you have some good ones?
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  Speaker 1: I saw this one and I it actually came to
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  Speaker 1: me pretty quickly. I don't have a Trump yet, which
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  Speaker 1: obviously is very important.
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  Speaker 2: Let me give you a Trump even though this person
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  Speaker 2: is not alive. I just feel like Norm McDonald would
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  Speaker 2: have done a fantastic Trump. I could just see him
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  Speaker 2: nailing that role.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to give you a couple of my thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: and uh they are not you know, political, Uh, ideology
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  Speaker 1: does not required to be anything. I'm just like, yeah, Rubio, Pedro, Pascal, hmmm, heggs,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be so happy with this. Glenn Powell, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know who that is. Glenn Powell is the uh,
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  Speaker 1: the iceman ish character in Top Gun. Maverick.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, The Twisters guy, I really have to see
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  Speaker 2: that movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Glenn Powell. Who else do I have? Susie wilds,
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  Speaker 1: Emma Thompson.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean uh, and then I think for Gabbard,
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  Speaker 1: I had maybe Galgadot.
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  Speaker 2: That's that bad? Yeah, yeah, I could see that Kennedy
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  Speaker 2: anybody for Kennedy.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a Kennedy one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm just so, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: I don't watch movies, but yeah, Kennedy, he's he's sort
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  Speaker 2: of a funky character I could see. Like again, I
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  Speaker 2: guess I just know comedians more than anybody else. But
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  Speaker 2: like a Seinfeld almost can you see.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry, are you playing Mike Kennedy street casting? And I like, ye,
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  Speaker 1: the like almost like Spaceball's version of Trump. For Kennedy,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is too predictable. But a
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  Speaker 1: Clooney could play a Kennedy. Oh yeah, that's some same
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  Speaker 1: sort of weather looking older guy. Feel absolutely yeah. But
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  Speaker 1: Trump is tricky because Trump is a comedic force.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the thing. I feel like it has to
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  Speaker 2: be somebody who gets that. And I just feel like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: even Alec Baldwin when he played him, and he gets it,
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  Speaker 2: but he doesn't. He kind of is more about making
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  Speaker 2: fun of him. He doesn't get the Trump is funny.
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  Speaker 1: He was my first thought, but I thought there's there's two.
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  Speaker 1: There's that, and there's too much. Like in his heart
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  Speaker 1: he thinks he's so malevolent that he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be intent on either playing him very
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  Speaker 1: stupid or very evil. And I think there's just like
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  Speaker 1: a it'd be hard to find somebody who can do it.
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  Speaker 2: What do you watch, listen to, or read that's purely
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  Speaker 2: for entertainment purposes? What brings you joy?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? This is a great question, and sometimes I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I wish I had more time for such things. I
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  Speaker 1: think the thing that brings me really a lot of joy.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna sound like such a goody goody two shoes.
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  Speaker 1: Here is reading to my kids. Oh yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: read classics with them. So we'll do children's classics like
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  Speaker 1: The Secret Garden or even right now, I'm reading Pride
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  Speaker 1: and Prejudice to them, which is a little above their
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  Speaker 1: great level, but I'm able to talk them through it
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  Speaker 1: and we talk about what the sentences mean and the
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  Speaker 1: and the language and and they'll probably you know, pick
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  Speaker 1: up some of it as they go. So I've been
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  Speaker 1: reading that to them. I'm told that now might be
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  Speaker 1: a good age for the Hobbit. And I've never done
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  Speaker 1: Tolkien before, which I know is like such a so
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  Speaker 1: terrible on my track.
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  Speaker 2: I've never read it either. Yeah, so I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: fantasy but I would give that a.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that might be our next one after Pride
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  Speaker 1: and Prejudice. We also read like more contemporary stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's really cool. I feel like I should
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  Speaker 2: do that, but I might have missed my window.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it ends up being my only fiction reading
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  Speaker 1: because I falls off for me. I'm trying to read
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  Speaker 1: fiction while I'm on vacation this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read a lot, not a lot, but I
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  Speaker 2: My whole thing is I try to read fiction, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading going. I'm reading right now, go On Pretending
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  Speaker 2: by Alina Adams. She's one of my favorite writers. She
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  Speaker 2: just writes really, really beautiful fiction.
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  Speaker 1: I always take recommendations from Carrol because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we have we're on the same wavelength when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to fiction.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I publish a list at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the year where I kind of feel disappointed with how
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  Speaker 2: little I read or you know, it's not bad, it's
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  Speaker 2: more than I think the average person, but it's still
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  Speaker 2: like not where I want to be. And then like
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  Speaker 2: I'll have like, let's say, fifteen books for the year,
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  Speaker 2: and my daughter will be like, oh, here's the one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty I read.
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  Speaker 1: I had half as much as my children.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a much better person, same same, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: also it's hard. It's hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard.
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  Speaker 2: We go easier at ourselves. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The very very silly thing that I watch that makes
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  Speaker 1: me happy every time I turn it on is what
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  Speaker 1: we do in The Shadows, which is a I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if empire based mockumentary.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It's all right. The comedic actors are fantastic, but plots
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  Speaker 1: are ridiculous. It's all just so silly that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to worry about it, right, it's right. I like
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  Speaker 1: that I have sometimes gearing up for very serious TV.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I don't have to be in any
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  Speaker 1: mood for just turn it on, right.
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  Speaker 2: I find it very hard to watch tense shows, especially
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  Speaker 2: at night, which is the only time we have time
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  Speaker 2: to watch anything. We're watching The Bear right now, but
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  Speaker 2: we're only in the first season. It has tension, like
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  Speaker 2: a little bit too much tension, like when things go
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  Speaker 2: wrong at the restaurant and you're like, like, why am
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  Speaker 2: I stressing about like their lives? I like, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: same funniest line from any movie. I was thinking about this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the funniest line, but
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  Speaker 2: this is the line that we use the most in
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  Speaker 2: our household. It's from Big Lebowski where he has his
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  Speaker 2: car stolen and he has a clear clearance clearwater tape
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  Speaker 2: in there and the police officer is he yes, The
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  Speaker 2: police officer like, do you think you're going to find
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  Speaker 2: my car? And the police officers like I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And then Lebowski's like, but what about my credence clearwater tape?
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  Speaker 2: And the cop is like, oh yeah, they have us
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  Speaker 2: working in shifts. So they have us working in shifts
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  Speaker 2: is a line that we use around the house when like,
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  Speaker 2: are we gonna do blank, like something that's just you know,
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  Speaker 2: too difficult and too time consuming. We're like, yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: have us working in shifts.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I would say the most quotable movies
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  Speaker 1: in my family and my family of origin and my
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  Speaker 1: immediate family now, like money, Python stuff, probably Monny Python.
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  Speaker 1: The Holy Grail was a go to when we were
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  Speaker 1: When we were kids, I feel like my dad really
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  Speaker 1: got us into like comedy, nerd space. So we watched
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Second City TV and all of the
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  Speaker 1: like Ed Grimley and all the SNL characters from back
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  Speaker 1: in the day. Those are very quotable in my house.
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Bobby, Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Ricky Bobby for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Billy Madison era. For me still I quote
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  Speaker 1: things that my kids have no idea what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, and Friday might be my most favorite
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  Speaker 1: quotable movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's really good. I mean by Felicia's from Friday,
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  Speaker 2: and well, there are.
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  Speaker 1: So many there are so many things that are so
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  Speaker 1: embedded in culture that are from Friday that people don't
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  Speaker 1: even know they're from Friday. But that was really in
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  Speaker 1: my formative years, Friday was a go to. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: so so those have been just stuck in my brain
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  Speaker 1: ever since.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and come right
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  Speaker 2: back with normally all right, switching gears a little bit
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  Speaker 2: to politics. We had got a few questions about the
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  Speaker 2: new Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City. I
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  Speaker 2: think you know Zara Mamandi is he's Frankly, it's scaring
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  Speaker 2: people that someone like this can get so close to
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  Speaker 2: being the mayor of New York. He's in pole position
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  Speaker 2: to win. So somebody asks, should the Trump DOJ make
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  Speaker 2: a move to strip Zoran of his citizenship and support
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  Speaker 2: him only if you want to make him super popular
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  Speaker 2: and definitely going to win the election?
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  Speaker 1: Is this? Yeah, this is one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: conservatives should not get into that liberals have been into
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  Speaker 1: in the past, which is the idea that when someone
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  Speaker 1: wins an election fair and square, that you can unelect them,
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  Speaker 1: right like, you get a shot at it.
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  Speaker 2: You had the shot, yeah, and you have another shot
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  Speaker 2: in November.
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  Speaker 1: Later, just as the entire first Trump administration. They were
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  Speaker 1: going to get their shot in twenty twenty, but they
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  Speaker 1: insisted on trying to unpresident the president. Yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 1: not how democracy works, even though they want to claim
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  Speaker 1: that they're the guardians of democracy. So don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You have to fight on fair ground with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's an American to deport him at simply because he's
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  Speaker 1: a bad choice for this city. He is a bad choice.
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  Speaker 2: He is a bad choice, right, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like a disastrous one. Yeah. There's actually a clip floating
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  Speaker 1: around now from twenty twenty one where he's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: the object is to seize the means of productition, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is, I think people.
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  Speaker 1: Not productivity. I modern therapy speak to the new old language.
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  Speaker 2: I think what people can take away from that is
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  Speaker 2: we should be more careful about who we let into
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  Speaker 2: the country. They should align with our values. They shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: want to bring down capitalism. All of these things are
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  Speaker 2: It's okay to monitor people's social media or find out
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  Speaker 2: what they really really, you know, care about and want
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  Speaker 2: to do here, and it's fine to say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: no people like this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no. I think it's also just so gross to
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  Speaker 1: have this rich kid doing the thing that rich revolutionaries
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  Speaker 1: always do, which is, let me not let anyone else
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  Speaker 1: get rich, and demonize anyone who's working hard and moving
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  Speaker 1: up and creating products for a bunch of people and
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  Speaker 1: getting rich that way. And also let me take all
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  Speaker 1: your money, but you're awful and evil. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing is so gross. Please vote for Eric Adams.
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  Speaker 1: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the follow up question somebody else had was,
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  Speaker 2: should everyone who's not a socialist in New York City
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  Speaker 2: just commit to voting for Eric Adams right now? There's
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  Speaker 2: some controversy around this, you know, people are like, well,
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  Speaker 2: why not Curtis Leewa, the Republican. I just think that
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  Speaker 2: Eric Adams is the best option here. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: got the biggest shot to win. I like Curtis a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I just if I were living in New York, I
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  Speaker 2: would want people to put all of their chips behind
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  Speaker 2: behind Eric Adams because I think that he's currently mayor.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: He has some advantages because of that, and he's normal
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  Speaker 2: enough is really what we're going for here. He's not amazing,
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  Speaker 2: he's just good enough.
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  Speaker 1: He's not communist, and unless you coalesce, the more likely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I would also say I have read through quite a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: bit of the indictment of him, because this is like
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a vote for the criminal. It's important, situation important. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I will I think you can. You might assuage
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: yourself a bit on that front if you read the indictment,
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  Speaker 1: which is a little like I'm sure there may be
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: more stuff there.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little like.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, he got his flights upgraded, and I'm supposed to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: be very concerned about that, right, I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 1: concerned I am about that compared to seize the means
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  Speaker 1: of production.
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  Speaker 2: That's really the thing that there's questionable stuff around Eric Adams.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote out all of his problems in a Washington
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  Speaker 2: Examiner piece before he was actually indicted, when it was
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: like he was going to be indicted. He's got a
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: lot of shady He had a lot of shady people
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: around him that he didn't fire. He's pledging to do better.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Let's see if he does. But again, when you compare
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: it to straight up communism, it's kind of an easy choice.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: What do you think of banning cell phones in schools?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: This person notes, which a great point. I can see
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: why they're doing it, but they're worried that if you
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: take them out, then teachers won't be at all worried
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: about being documented doing greetings that have ticked off parents.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: This far left indoctrination over the last couple years, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of course a lot of that was brought to light
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: by zoom right and by having cameras in the classroom.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would say that they still will have
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: cameras in the classroom. These kids are all using chromebooks now,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: which is a separate question of whether that should be
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the case, right, it's should kids be using screens in
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: schools pretty much at every level at this point. My
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: fourth grader doesn't have screens, but my older kids do,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and so you'll still have that. I you know what
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: the problem is, if you have a school that has
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: enforcement of the rules, then it won't matter to ban
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: phones or not. You could just say you're not allowed
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: to use your phones in class and that's it. But
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the real issue is that public schools across the country
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: do not enforce any of the rules. They do not
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: suspend anybody, They certainly don't expel anybody. There's no risk
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: to these kids to just not follow the rules at all.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: So if you have a rule following school, you could
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: have phones that you're just not allowed to use at
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: certain times. That's not what we have, unfortunately.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I tend to think the benefits of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: no phones are probably greater than the downsides of not
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: having them. Yeah, instruction, I think, you know, we try
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to keep our kids fairly screen free, you know, not totally.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And she but I find that their behavior is better,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: their ability to problem solve is better, their desire to
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: read books is better when they do not have access
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: all the time, and so in a school setting, that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: would obviously help students. But I do think what you're
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: what you're saying, Carol, is when when what they're doing
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is when they take the option away entirely, it obviates
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the need for them to jump in on a case
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: by case basis because they've shown that they're not willing
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: or able to do that, and parents will fight them
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: tooth and nail. That's part of it, right, Parents will
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: fight over this each adjudication, and so they're just like, nah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: we're done.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's that's the problem here.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: But can I ask one question? Okay, so you went
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to nineteen eighties nineties New York public schools.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I went to I went to Jewish schools.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I went to eighties nineties public schools
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. What's the wild oldest old school eighties
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: anecdote from your schools? Like something that gen Z would
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: be like, they did, what do you have any h you.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Know, I had a really incredible teacher in high school.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I went to a small private high school in Brooklyn,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and I had this really like one of those teachers
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: straight out of the movies, like who inspire you and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: you know, write whatever, But those teachers are always a
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: little crazy. And he used to do stuff like he'd
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: get really angry and throw a desk out the window.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Like it was just like he he taught me how
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to write, but I also feared for my life. So yeah,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you know a little from Colum b.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: We've we've had those. We're like, I remember my public schools,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like enforcement by teachers was somewhat rougher than would be
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: allowed now. I would argue that in the cases where
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I saw that it was warranted, like physically restraining.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One of two of my favorite ones. One when
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I first came to my elementary school, WHI would have
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: been mid eighties ish, no one was paddled in our
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: public schools, but there were paddles, so it was like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: we had amazing we had just gotten past that. But
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they a couple of old school teachers. They would hang
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: on the wall and they were legendary as this you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: unspoken threat that something could happen to you if you
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: got out of hand and legend I remember was that
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: like there were holes drilled in a wooden paddle, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, why would that be? And the rumor was,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true. Older people than
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I can say, is that makes it more like cuts
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: through the window. Wow.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: They needed it to be worse, they needed it to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: really hurt.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Nothing actually happened, but it was like the threat. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: then the other one was my middle school did not
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: have air conditioning in North Carolina.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: No, none of our schools.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the rule was I remember that. I don't know
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: who wrote this rule. The rule was if it was
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: ninety eight degrees for three days in a row, we
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: would get the fourth day off. Like even my children,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: who I think I've toughened up a little more than
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the average kid this age, if I asked them to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: be in the school building in ninety eight degree heat
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: for three days.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they'd make it. I don't think
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you make it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, society would lose its mind.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Right. We were like in New York like two weeks ago,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: my fifteen year old, my husband and I and they
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: were having like a heat snap. And I know I
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: live in Florida, so I like heat, I assure you.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: But the problem was that everywhere in New York felt
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: really under air conditioned compared to Florida. Like Florida, you
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: walk into a restaurant, you're.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Like burr, you know.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: In New York it was like why am I still hot?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: My fifteen year old was like, oh, like this, how
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: do they live like this? This is not cutting right,
• 23:54
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• 23:56
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• 24:00
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