Latest / Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD / Autistic People Do THIS Without Knowing! (Literal Thinking)
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- 0:00So every autistic person will do one of these two things as a
- 0:05default. But you know, what's interesting
- 0:07is the second one is something you didn't even know was
- 0:10actually the thing, but it's confusing.
- 0:13Let's get into it. Hey guys, what's going on?
- 0:18Welcome back to the MSP world. My name is Dan.
- 0:20It's back as heck. What is going on?
- 0:23I wanted to do this video because I was thinking about it
- 0:27for a while and I'm thinking like, hey, there's there's a
- 0:30thing about autism. There's like this some profound
- 0:33look at me in the mirror. There's like some profound
- 0:36things about autism that we all share, right?
- 0:38That we all have all together. And I'm like, we don't even know
- 0:43sometimes that those things are the things that we have.
- 0:46I've seen the word thing a lot, but basically it's this look.
- 0:50For instance, all autistic individuals will have anxiety,
- 0:55high levels of anxiety in their life at some point, right?
- 0:59And it could look in variant different degrees with social
- 1:01anxiety could be like going outside, fear of big places,
- 1:05fear of new places than heating on because it's freezing.
- 1:08And yes, guys, as long as Christmas time here when I'm on
- 1:10this video. And that being said, we all have
- 1:14these like very inherent things that are the same.
- 1:18Now, one of the things I find really interesting is that
- 1:20artistic individuals will also have one of two things like we
- 1:26will have, like I said before, I I did a video talking about how
- 1:28like we'll have like restless leg syndrome or we may fidget
- 1:33rock or kind of stem in a different way.
- 1:36And that was like really well received because a lot of people
- 1:38were like, yeah, you know, it's not one, it's not that
- 1:40one-size-fits-all with autism, but it is that in autism we have
- 1:45similar instances, but they will have the same kind of like core
- 1:49principle. OK, so by the way guys, I'm just
- 1:52getting my day started here and I thought I'd do the video while
- 1:57I start. This is the most annoying thing
- 1:59about having an electric vehicle without an electric port at the
- 2:02side of your house. So my car's there.
- 2:04I've got to charge it up here. It's so annoying.
- 2:07So I've got to get out my phone and then like turn off the
- 2:11charger and then so this is the this is my phone.
- 2:16OK, so but stop charging. OK, here we go.
- 2:19Just unplug this. Oh, goodness.
- 2:23One of the things I find most interesting is taking things
- 2:27literally. Now I'll just take individuals
- 2:28will take things literally. I'll take things at face value,
- 2:31which means that we will find something that you say or
- 2:37another person says or another says at face value.
- 2:40Which means that like somebody says to me, hey, it's raining
- 2:44cats and dogs outside. I'll be like, is it, is it
- 2:49raining cats and dogs? Is it truly raining cats and
- 2:51dogs? Even though I know that that's
- 2:53bonkers. Like it would never rain cats
- 2:54and dogs, But at the same time, I always feel like, hey, it's
- 2:57going to rain cats and dogs. So why is this a thing?
- 3:01Why is literal thinking a thing? Well, they have OJ in the
- 3:05morning. Well, you see, I just think
- 3:08individuals have what's inherently a communication
- 3:12disorder and communication disorder can have many
- 3:15implications. And so whilst we are very
- 3:19logical, we have exceptional kind of like memory and all this
- 3:24other type of abilities to do things that are probably
- 3:28cognitively advanced. We also like the ability to
- 3:32sometimes reconcile what is factual and what is fictional
- 3:36within our minds, right? And so it comes down to this
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- 5:56video. Literal thinking and autism or
- 5:58taking things literally in autism, right?
- 6:00So for many years I had this like this when someone tell me a
- 6:05joke or something that's sarcastic, I just believe them
- 6:08straight away. I'm like, Oh yeah, that that's
- 6:10it. That's that's exactly what it
- 6:12is. And I have no reason to doubt
- 6:14that person, right? Like, I have no reason to say,
- 6:17oh, this person is lying to me because why would I like it
- 6:20makes no sense, right? When you're taking things
- 6:23literally. This can fall into different
- 6:25categories. Like we can have mate crime
- 6:27where someone says, hey, you have to give me, I don't know,
- 6:30money every week. You'd be like, oh, OK, Because
- 6:33you'd think that Why would they be lying, right?
- 6:34Why? Why would they not be telling
- 6:36the truth? Right?
- 6:37I'll put my cable back in my car.
- 6:39Wish me luck. Like I used to get in trouble
- 6:45with like, band for this all time, actually in a band game
- 6:48music. And they used to say to me
- 6:49stupid things like, oh, a Tom, it's called Tom Mule.
- 6:52And I'd be like, no way. And then I'd be like, oh, that's
- 6:55stupid. I remember one time we were
- 6:56going to a gig and they told me that we were driving there and
- 7:00the guy, they were like, yeah, yeah, his name's Fozzie, which
- 7:03it was, but it said always his wife's name is Jang Harrad
- 7:06because we knew a guy called Rozzie and his wife was called
- 7:09ANG Harrad. And so they told me this because
- 7:11I was like, no, I was blown away.
- 7:13I was like, there's no way. Like, what are the odds?
- 7:15So I just park in my car. Another thing about having a car
- 7:19that has to park on a bloody different side.
- 7:22Oh, you have to pack outside your house to charge it, but it
- 7:26actually lives on a on a drive anyway, so I'd get to the gig
- 7:32and I was talking to this guy and I was like, hey, fuzzy.
- 7:34And then he's like, hey, I was like, wow, how's Jiang Harry?
- 7:37Like that's not his wife's name. My dad just told me that because
- 7:40it waffles. Anyway, so then it got me
- 7:43thinking like, OK, so as autistic individuals, we do
- 7:48think about things in a very literal sense, taking things
- 7:51literally. Like if he tells us a sarcastic
- 7:53joke, well, sarcasm is kind of like, it's like a it's a joke
- 7:58that is meant to be like almost real.
- 8:03I guess I'm making sorry, I'm making brunch, but veggie
- 8:07sausages, vegetarian. Hold on.
- 8:13So in autism, we call it like there's no reading between the
- 8:17lines, right? And reading between the lines
- 8:19could be like read the room, read the social signals.
- 8:22And these parts of the autistic experience, these, these parts
- 8:26of the of of like typical, like, oh, well, I grew up and I knew
- 8:30this. Those are gone.
- 8:31Those are missing. Autistic individuals don't
- 8:32experience this in the same way as neurotypical people do.
- 8:36And why? Because communication is what
- 8:39autism is a communication issue, right?
- 8:40Or a communication disorder. And it doesn't allow for your
- 8:44brain to go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
- 8:46That's exactly where I should be.
- 8:48I should be doing. And so.
- 8:53So the first thing is that I want to talk about like, literal
- 8:56thinking in autism, taking things at face value.
- 8:58When someone tells you something, you feel like it is
- 9:00right. Hence why I guess we think, why
- 9:03would somebody lie? Because lying goes against the
- 9:06literal thinking protocol where if you're lying, then you can't
- 9:11be, you know, you can't be telling somebody something that
- 9:15is a, that is not true because it goes against literal
- 9:18thinking, right? So lying is quite a difficult
- 9:20concept for autistic individuals to kind of conjure up.
- 9:23Now, that being said, we all know that there's no surprise
- 9:27autistic individuals struggle with typical kind of like, oh,
- 9:32this is how it's going to be. It's raining cats and dogs.
- 9:34And then you'll be like it's raining cats and dogs.
- 9:37But one of the most this is the OK.
- 9:38So the second part is probably the most interesting part.
- 9:41This is like the bit that blows my mind.
- 9:44And I was thinking about this yesterday.
- 9:46I was doing AI was on a meeting with a friend of mine, a
- 9:49business partner who a bit we partnered with and he's helping
- 9:52me launch a a burnout challenge. So if you're interested in that,
- 9:56I'll leave a link for it down below.
- 9:57And if it's not ready, then it will be like a holding page.
- 10:01But we do like a burnout challenge like a three day how
- 10:02to rock out a burnout and get energy back.
- 10:04Anyway, Long story short, me and Jan were talking and we were
- 10:07talking about like one of the things that impacts me as an
- 10:10autistic individual that you kind of like don't see at face
- 10:13value, but I take at face value, and this is one of them literal
- 10:18thinking. But literal thinking like this
- 10:21when I am presented with somebody telling me a story,
- 10:24right? This is this is this is
- 10:25profound. This is crazy interesting guys.
- 10:27Like somebody's telling me a story.
- 10:28It could be my, my, my partner or my friends.
- 10:33Someone's telling me a story and they're like, so I, me and John
- 10:38were out and we're digging for bait because we're going to go
- 10:41fishing. And then we hit something, Ding,
- 10:43Ding. And I'm like, Oh my God, what's
- 10:45that? In that moment when they're
- 10:47telling me that story, I'm like, Oh my God, what's what, what
- 10:50we're talking about? Like, I don't know how to
- 10:53separate the reality of the literal sense of hate.
- 11:01I'm talking to you. This is what's happening right
- 11:03now. And hey, this is a story.
- 11:05This isn't what's happening right now.
- 11:07It's something that happened before because they relive it or
- 11:10they react it right. And that I guess comes into the
- 11:13same players. Like why we get things taken
- 11:17literal because we're expecting things just as they are
- 11:20constantly. It's like when something comes,
- 11:22that's how it's going to be and there is no, there is no
- 11:29alternative to that. And I think that's to me, one of
- 11:32the most profound things is something that like autistic
- 11:34individuals. No, but they don't realize,
- 11:40right? Like I, I, I know that I'd do
- 11:42this, but I didn't even realize it was a thing.
- 11:45And that is kind of crazy. And then when I was talking to
- 11:49Jan about it was someone was like, yeah, I do this.
- 11:50And then he's like, oh, interesting.
- 11:52And I'm like, yeah, it is interesting actually, Jan.
- 11:55Like that is interesting. Like why, why do I take things
- 12:00like, why can't I distinguish between a story that somebody's
- 12:02telling me versus a story that's interrupted by something that's
- 12:08happening right now? If you get what I'm trying to
- 12:09say at the flow of the process. And I guess then it opens up
- 12:12with a question that like, how can I can watch movies and TV
- 12:18knowing that they are not happening right now?
- 12:23They're not exactly as they are. And I guess the answer to that
- 12:25question is that when I'm watching TVI don't know these
- 12:29people and I have a default that everything they're telling me is
- 12:35just make believe or fantasy. I've disconnected from myself.
- 12:38Kind of like I don't watch the news for that reason.
- 12:42I don't watch the news because I feel sometimes too connected or
- 12:45I feel too kind of shocked in the moment because that's that
- 12:48is real. That's real information that's
- 12:49being, you know, protruded out. And so it, it kind of like, it
- 12:56does beg that question. It does a question like, how am
- 12:58I, how am I going to be able to talk to people and understand
- 13:01their stories properly when I can't even do it myself?
- 13:05And the answer is, I don't know. I don't actually know.
- 13:08Oh, guys, I got another monitor installed in my office.
- 13:11Actually, I see another monitor installed.
- 13:13This is my grandmother's old television and I got a
- 13:18refurbished Apple TV generation one from eBay.
- 13:23Illness or something, I have no idea.
- 13:24Look at this so profound. Profound, literal thinking in
- 13:29autism when someone is telling you a story is probably the most
- 13:34interesting thing that I have experienced as an autistic
- 13:37adult. As an autistic person, I'm like,
- 13:41wow, I, I, I really suck at knowing if someone's being
- 13:45literal or not, or if someone's telling me a story or someone's
- 13:48lying or someone's having a joke or whatever.
- 13:50And so I think that really impacts me in a way where like
- 13:52it's, it's, it's difficult because like if you think about
- 13:56the way in which, you know, crimes are committed, people are
- 13:59telling you, oh, you can, you know, you have to give, I don't
- 14:06know, you have to give me, you know, your wages or you have to
- 14:09give me XY or Z. And then you'd be like, OK, I
- 14:13must have to, because this person said, you know, it's kind
- 14:16of like it's, it's a profound vulnerability as well as
- 14:20something that's quite interesting.
- 14:22And so I, I don't know, I'd like to know your opinion on it.
- 14:25Let me know if you experience this in the comments down below.
- 14:27Because like, to me, it's kind of like a no brain.
- 14:29I'm like, yeah, everyone experiences this, but like to
- 14:31autistic individuals, but probably doesn't.
- 14:33Anyway, I'm going to get on now guys, because I've got client
- 14:36work to do at the back here because I actually help people
- 14:38build online businesses because I've won awards, Business Awards
- 14:42here and stuff like that because I like to build businesses and
- 14:45help people. Now if that interests you can
- 14:47always drop me a comment or e-mail me dan@theasheville.com
- 14:50if you're interested in helping me set it on my business for you
- 14:53and with you or whatever. You know, it's not a problem.
- 14:55Anyway, guys, I will catch you in the next video.
- 14:59Peace.