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How To Support Your Dancer - From Studio To Stage · Making The Impact - A Dance Competition Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Have you ever wondered what goes on behind the table at a dance competition?
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly what are the judges looking for anyway?
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SPEAKER_00: This is Making the Impact, a dance competition podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: Each week we'll cover a different topic related to the world of competitive dance from the perspective of the judges behind the table.
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SPEAKER_00: Dance parents are the backbone of the competitive dance industry, providing transportation, funding, and most of all, support.
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SPEAKER_00: Today on Making the Impact, fellow podcasters from Two Dance Moms Podcasts and competition team director Terry Yakobucci join us to give insight on how dance parents can best support their dancers.
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SPEAKER_05: Hey y'all, welcome to this week's episode of Making the Impact.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm your host, Courtney Ortiz, and I'm here, like always, with my wonderful co-host Leslie Mueller.
0:54
SPEAKER_05: Always and forever, season six.
0:56
SPEAKER_05: Here we are.
0:58
SPEAKER_05: Season six, what a blast.
1:01
SPEAKER_05: And wow, we are flying through these episodes and they are impressive.
1:06
SPEAKER_05: I mean, these these first few episodes have been exceptional.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're out here, we're we're giving the people what they want, and they just keep coming.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited for the rest of the season.
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SPEAKER_00: My parents are visiting this weekend, so they are in New Jersey.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: Really excited to see, um, to show them, show them around and maybe do a couple of city things, but they were they were city, you know, city people for a while, so they don't they don't need any of that.
1:31
SPEAKER_00: They need New Jersey.
1:33
SPEAKER_05: I'm sure that they love visiting you out in New Jersey.
1:36
SPEAKER_05: And I know that over the summer I finally got to come see you out in New Jersey, and I absolutely loved it out there in Montclair.
1:43
SPEAKER_05: It is so darn cute.
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SPEAKER_00: It's so cute.
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SPEAKER_00: And still, still close to the city.
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SPEAKER_00: I still get to the city often and plenty of art around here, plenty of dance, all those things.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: And it's close to Capuzio, so it's like the ideal situation.
1:56
SPEAKER_05: That's wonderful.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's it's a great place that you you are living.
2:01
SPEAKER_05: And I'm a little bit jealous because you have lots of space and cuteness around, although I do love my neighborhood in Astoria, Queens.
2:08
SPEAKER_05: But it is nice to also drive around a little bit out in suburbia, and you have the best of everything.
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SPEAKER_00: I strangely love a parking lot in that suburban person.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's what's up.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh but what's up today is that we have some really awesome guests for this topic that feels right for the beginning of the season.
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SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_05: Absolutely does.
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SPEAKER_05: We wanted to put this topic for the dance parents out there on how to better support your dancers as this dance season has arrived.
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SPEAKER_05: And I'm sure that they are already in classes, you are driving to the studio every other day, you are bringing them food, you are signing them up for all of their competition and conventions events, you're possibly already ordering their custom costumes at this point.
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SPEAKER_05: And we are here to send some reminders and give new perspectives and advice from veteran dance parents as well as studio directors and teachers from the dance studio.
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3:09
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SPEAKER_05: Alright, dance world, we are jumping into our next episode of season six.
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SPEAKER_05: And this is a really important one that we knew we had to put at the top of the season because it's all about supporting your dancer.
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SPEAKER_05: Calling all dance moms and dance dads and dance parents out there in this beautiful dance world.
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SPEAKER_05: We love you, and I know that you love dance and your dancer loves dance.
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SPEAKER_05: But we have to make sure that we are supporting our dancers in the best way possible to make sure that they are having a lovely dance training career.
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SPEAKER_05: And we want to make sure that we're reminding, we're gonna give some little reminders and tips uh at the very start of this dance season so you can continue on throughout the dance season, all of 2025, with these tips in your mind.
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SPEAKER_05: So this is a dance parent episode, and we have actually a little change up than usual.
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SPEAKER_05: We have three guests joining us on this week's chat, which is gonna be so much fun.
6:53
SPEAKER_05: We first are welcoming a brand new guest to our podcast who also is an IDA judge on our roster and is a dance director of a studio.
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SPEAKER_05: So they will be bringing that studio owner, dance director, teacher perspective to this discussion.
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SPEAKER_05: I am very excited to welcome Tara Yakobucci to the podcast.
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SPEAKER_05: Welcome, Tara.
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SPEAKER_07: Thank you so much.
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SPEAKER_07: Thanks for having me.
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SPEAKER_05: Of course.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm so happy to finally get you on the podcast and thank you for being on the IDA roster.
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SPEAKER_07: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_07: Thank you, thank you.
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SPEAKER_05: All right, Tara.
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SPEAKER_05: So if you wouldn't mind sharing with the world more about you, where you're based, any of your early dance training, if you'd like to give your studio a shout out, and what you're currently working on in your dance career.
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SPEAKER_07: Of course.
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SPEAKER_07: So I am based on the East Coast in Rhode Island.
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SPEAKER_07: I have been dancing for many, many years competitively, and then a large part of my dancing was based in ballet companies.
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SPEAKER_07: I then kind of switched over, danced professionally for a couple of years in a ballet company, but also decided to get my bachelor's in business management to kind of have two going on at the same time, um, which I think honestly has helped me within this whole dance directing world as well.
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SPEAKER_07: I am a creative director and a dance director at the talent factory in Rhode Island.
8:18
SPEAKER_07: I have been for this is our 21st season.
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SPEAKER_04: Wow.
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SPEAKER_07: So I have, yeah, I feel like I've already seen and done it all.
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SPEAKER_07: I believe that.
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SPEAKER_07: Every season also feels like it brings something brand new.
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SPEAKER_07: So it's a constant learning process.
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SPEAKER_07: And actually we're about to kick off into that season.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_07: So just trying to, you know, continue to bring what we bring uh to our area, to our students, to our families.
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SPEAKER_07: Always love to take their experiences and their, I guess, schedules as well with our world into consideration.
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SPEAKER_07: So I feel like that is probably something that right now I'm tackling head on.
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SPEAKER_07: That's currently taking up all my time as we begin the season.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I can imagine.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know how studio owners and directors do it when it comes to the scheduling aspect of a dance studio.
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SPEAKER_05: It's gotta be I can just envision like a calendar with post-it notes everywhere.
9:20
SPEAKER_05: And like and they move constantly.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
9:23
SPEAKER_05: Does this class work here?
9:24
SPEAKER_05: And does this comp weekend work here?
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SPEAKER_05: No, yes, like all the things.
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SPEAKER_07: Yep, yep.
9:29
SPEAKER_07: Let's add another one here.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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unknown: Yes.
9:33
SPEAKER_05: Awesome.
9:33
SPEAKER_05: Well, we're so happy to have you on the podcast for the very first time.
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SPEAKER_05: So thank you for joining us.
9:39
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
9:40
SPEAKER_05: All right.
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SPEAKER_05: Our next special guests are here, and they are actually podcasters as well.
9:47
SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh, how cool.
9:49
SPEAKER_05: I can't wait for them to tell you all about their podcast, but they will be bringing the dance mom perspective to this chat.
9:56
SPEAKER_05: I am excited to welcome Amir, Azimi, and Casey Day to the podcast.
10:01
SPEAKER_05: Welcome to Making the Impact.
10:03
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
10:04
SPEAKER_05: Thanks for having us.
10:06
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
10:07
SPEAKER_05: And if you wouldn't mind, can you tell the world what podcast you're from?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh yes, we are with Two Dance Moms Podcast.
10:15
SPEAKER_02: And we are just actually have just started our third season of podcasting.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's been really fun.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
10:23
SPEAKER_05: All the props.
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SPEAKER_05: We love other podcasters, especially other dance podcasters in the world.
10:28
SPEAKER_05: We love supporting y'all.
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SPEAKER_05: So excited to, I know y'all listen to ours and yeah, we do.
10:35
SPEAKER_06: It was definitely very instrumental in my early dance mom days.
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SPEAKER_06: So I love it.
10:40
SPEAKER_06: I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, and I I listened to y'all's first episode where you shouted us out.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh my gosh, we are like making a difference.
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SPEAKER_00: And now you guys are making a difference because we can only do so much as people with no kids.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: No, like we can go to a certain extent and we can bring on the guests, but we do not have your perspective.
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SPEAKER_00: So, listeners out there, if you were looking for like a parent-centered dance podcast, Two Dance Moms is it.
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SPEAKER_00: So head over to wherever you get your podcasts and get their podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
11:08
SPEAKER_02: Thank you guys.
11:09
SPEAKER_02: We're dividing and conquering.
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SPEAKER_02: You guys are covering something we can't, and we hope to cover something you're not.
11:15
SPEAKER_02: So works out completely.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
11:17
SPEAKER_05: Love it.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, if you both want to take a quick minute to individually share just a few facts about you and your dance mom life, and also let us know where you're based and what your career is.
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SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm Amira.
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SPEAKER_02: I live in Southern California.
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SPEAKER_02: And one of my closest friends is Casey.
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SPEAKER_02: And together we have Two Dance Moms Podcast.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: But we actually, or I specifically don't have much dance background aside from some ballet cap classes when I was growing up.
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SPEAKER_02: So it was a new world coming into competitive dance.
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SPEAKER_02: My dancer is going into her seventh year on a competitive team.
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SPEAKER_02: So we kind of stumbled into this world and found that there was a lot of information that new dance parents coming into our studio would need.
12:05
SPEAKER_02: And the rest is history.
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SPEAKER_02: We took it up.
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SPEAKER_02: I am a stay-at-home mom, otherwise.
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SPEAKER_02: Before that, I worked in fashion as a buyer.
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SPEAKER_02: So I don't really have any specific dance training.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: And that's where I can just give my perspective as purely a dance mom and no other expertise.
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SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
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SPEAKER_06: And I, the same as Amira, started with my daughter on team.
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SPEAKER_06: This is our seventh season for competitive team.
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SPEAKER_06: And like Amira as well, I took like one or two years of dance class, like tiny toes kind of style dance, but have zero real dance experience.
12:43
SPEAKER_06: And it's just a lot of fun, but it's a whole new world.
12:45
SPEAKER_06: I have two sons that are older, just uh recently graduated high school, both of them.
12:51
SPEAKER_06: And so all of my knowledge with them was uh basketball and sports, and it's it's a whole nother world that I've had to learn about.
13:00
SPEAKER_06: And there is definitely a learning curve, but it's been a lot of fun, and we're really excited about all that we get to learn about and do with our daughters and have a have a real good time with it.
13:09
SPEAKER_06: So awesome.
13:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I I feel for all the dance moms out there who are walking into this wild, the wild, wild west of dance competitions.
13:18
SPEAKER_05: Like it is just it's it's crazy.
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SPEAKER_05: People don't really believe that this is a real, this is a real activity.
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SPEAKER_05: This is a real thing and the amount of money it costs and the amount of hours and the dedication to the competitions, and it's like a year-round thing and multi-year thing in your child's childhood growing.
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SPEAKER_05: I mean, I danced from age three until I was on still do.
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SPEAKER_05: So, you know, it's like it's it's an investment and it's a lot.
13:46
SPEAKER_05: And I can only imagine what it might feel like for new dance moms walking into this.
13:50
SPEAKER_05: So I applaud you both for starting this podcast and connecting with dance mom world out there.
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SPEAKER_05: It's much needed and we love supporting you guys.
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SPEAKER_05: So thanks for being here.
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SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
14:03
SPEAKER_05: We love you guys for having us.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: Yay.
14:06
SPEAKER_05: All right.
14:06
SPEAKER_05: Let's talk about how we can support those dancers that we love so much.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: Well, so I want to start with Tara being kind of the person in charge at your studio and sort of just a general overview of kind of what you see and like maybe what has changed over the years since you've been a dance director or a dance teacher.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, how have how has support of dancers changed over the years, in your opinion?
14:29
SPEAKER_07: Um, I feel like the biggest change that I am seeing, parents are more vocal, which I don't think is a bad thing, honestly.
14:39
SPEAKER_07: I always foster communication, and that's the first thing that I say at the beginning of every season.
14:44
SPEAKER_07: Um, if you don't tell me, I don't know.
14:47
SPEAKER_07: And I can't help you.
14:48
SPEAKER_07: And that's, you know, every dancer has a different path or a different dream or goal that they're trying to achieve.
14:55
SPEAKER_07: So I think everything is valid.
14:57
SPEAKER_07: I think though, in the past, at least it almost feels like more things were worked out, I think, or talked through, um, parent to dancer.
15:08
SPEAKER_07: And then they kind of came to the studio with a very clear direction, um, knowing what they want, knowing what they need.
15:15
SPEAKER_07: Whereas now it's I feel like it's more I hate to put it this way sometimes, but it can almost feel like it's complaining sometimes.
15:26
SPEAKER_07: But I truly think that they're just trying to advocate.
15:29
SPEAKER_07: And again, I'm all for that.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:31
SPEAKER_07: But I think I think sort of really getting on the same page as your dancer as well is something that I don't see as much of.
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SPEAKER_07: So maybe that's why I'm speaking of that communication right now.
15:43
SPEAKER_07: Right.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it can be harder to like sit down and have that conversation because everybody's distracted by everything else that happens in this world now.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, absolutely.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: There's so much happening.
15:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
15:56
SPEAKER_07: And even when I've I've had conversations with parents alone, I've had conversations with the dancers alone, I've had conversations with both together.
16:04
SPEAKER_07: And sometimes I get different stories too, especially from those dancers.
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SPEAKER_07: And that's a hard thing to navigate to.
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SPEAKER_07: Um, that's kind of that conversation where I'm like, it's okay to talk to your parents, you know?
16:18
SPEAKER_07: It's and if you want, I can be there with you.
16:21
SPEAKER_07: Or does that make sense?
16:23
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and I don't have kids, but so Amiri and Casey, I'll please chime in with like, do you have you experienced any of that where it's hard to talk to your child or you feel like it's not worth it, you have to go straight to the teacher about something.
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SPEAKER_06: I think with with my daughter, we have a really great open communication.
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SPEAKER_06: She's very communicative with me and what she really enjoys.
16:44
SPEAKER_06: I think the bigger issue is sometimes um feeling the confidence to kind of speak up for yourself.
16:50
SPEAKER_06: But as you get older, that's really something that you need to do because it's age appropriate and it's learning those skills of like, well, if you really are interested in something, you've got to speak up for that on your behalf, you know, it's opposed to having your mom do it.
17:05
SPEAKER_06: So that's something I think that just comes with age as they get older.
17:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
17:09
SPEAKER_07: Absolutely agree there.
17:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, even just thinking about my childhood and yeah, and we all have experienced that as kids, kind of feeling a little intimidated to speak out about something that doesn't feel especially when it comes like I'm immediately thinking of like injuries or something, you know, or like overuse or you're tired, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's I think that that it's hard as a even as a teacher now, it's hard to figure out is this kid just a complainer?
17:38
SPEAKER_05: Or like, are they actually tired?
17:40
SPEAKER_05: Are they actually injured?
17:41
SPEAKER_05: Are they just trying to get out of class right now?
17:43
SPEAKER_05: Or is there something seriously going on that we need to look into?
17:47
SPEAKER_05: And that's that's the fine line of trying to navigate because I want the kids to communicate, like you said, Tara.
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SPEAKER_05: I want them to be comfortable enough to tell me as a teacher, but also sometimes it's it's hard to navigate.
18:00
SPEAKER_05: And then some kids are just afraid to say anything because they don't want to upset the teacher or they don't want to upset their parents.
18:06
SPEAKER_05: So that's a tough one too.
18:08
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, or they don't want to get pulled from a spot.
18:10
SPEAKER_06: And so they're like, I'm just gonna power through.
18:12
SPEAKER_06: And it's like, no, you need to sit down and rest because otherwise you're gonna be out all season.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:17
SPEAKER_06: Right.
18:17
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Casey and I will Casey and I will always say that, you know, sure, we love this sport of dance, but the reason that, you know, we put our kids, we spend so much money and so much time to have our kids in these competitive sport situations is that they learn a bunch about like life situations.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: And so I think that going through these, like, do I need to bring this up to my director?
18:40
SPEAKER_02: Should I approach my mom?
18:41
SPEAKER_02: And these sort of questions, we're teaching them to kind of work through that um later in life so that they do know in a work situation or in college or as an adult, whatever it may be, they're learning how to have those communations that are very difficult.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: And so they're not going to do it right the first time.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I I don't envy your position, Tara, because it it's, I'm sure, very challenging between parents and dancers and their differing needs and who's saying what.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: And so I applaud you for even attempting, you know, to navigate.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I really do.
19:17
SPEAKER_07: It's the passion, you know, it's the passion why I got into it, why ever all of us per se get into it.
19:23
SPEAKER_07: And, you know, we're just always trying to do what's right too for each individual dancer and family.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: And that's the hard part too, is because, you know, everybody is just a unique individual and the circumstances are different and the reasons behind everything are different.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: So it is, you're very much, I think Tara, playing a lot of different roles to a lot of people who probably come in and say, Well, we have this issue or we have that issue, or she really wants a solo, or she can't come because her brother has a christening, or I don't know, whatever.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: So it's it's a lot.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: And I guess speaking of siblings, I know uh Casey, you have more than one child.
19:55
SPEAKER_00: You have a couple kids.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: Emery, you have more than one?
19:58
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have two.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so like there's that support of trying to balance how we're supporting the kid who does all these things and also the other kid who does all these things, or not all those things.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: That's gotta be challenging too.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: It is a constant juggle.
20:11
SPEAKER_02: And I think we we lean on each other like other moms.
20:15
SPEAKER_02: I have an older son, Casey has two older sons.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: He is very active in his sport as well.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: And so there is quite a juggle with making one feel supported and still being there, and because you're one person, you can't, you know, duplicate yourself.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: So there's two of you attending things, and I think it's a lot of divide and conquer with my husband, thankfully.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: But it is really a fine balance, and I I don't do it right all the time.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you that.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: You know, I fail, I fail often.
20:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I feel like that is another thing as far as scheduling that always I'm always impressed by.
20:51
SPEAKER_05: Even, you know, we talk we mentioned it at the beginning.
20:53
SPEAKER_05: Like, Terry, you're saying just the scheduling aspect of running a dance studio and and you know, coordinating all of those times and classes and the scheduling.
21:02
SPEAKER_05: But then how do parents do it?
21:04
SPEAKER_05: Like with mo with multiple siblings, I think that's when we have to give a little bit of grace to the amount of like sacrifice the parents are are making in their lives, like their downtime.
21:17
SPEAKER_05: Like, yes, you do finally get to have a little bit of downtime once all of the kids are at their activities.
21:23
SPEAKER_05: But what if the activities are all bouncing around different times?
21:26
SPEAKER_05: Well, this one starts at five, but this one I have to be across town at four to pick up this kid.
21:31
SPEAKER_05: And then this one ends at seven, but theirs isn't done till nine.
21:34
SPEAKER_05: And it's like you are a chauffeur driving all around town.
21:37
SPEAKER_05: What if the dance studio isn't close to soccer practice where brother your the brother is?
21:41
SPEAKER_05: Like, it's just a lot to think about.
21:43
SPEAKER_05: And I don't think that I mean, I don't know.
21:46
SPEAKER_05: I'm not a studio owner, but I'm sure that comes into consideration a lot.
21:49
SPEAKER_05: And maybe Terry can speak on that a little bit, but I do like I give all the parents props because I'm like, wow, how do they do it?
21:57
SPEAKER_05: I'm sure you're counting down the days until your kids.
22:00
SPEAKER_05: Can get their driver's license and drive themselves everywhere.
22:03
SPEAKER_07: It does help.
22:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think too in trying to find the best schedule, that's exactly what we think of.
22:10
SPEAKER_07: We're like, how can we make sure that we're maximizing uh this group of dancers per se?
22:17
SPEAKER_07: They're already going to be at the studio starting on a Tuesday at 4:30.
22:22
SPEAKER_07: You know, we won't just give them one class and then say, okay, next day you have another class.
22:27
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
22:28
SPEAKER_07: Right.
22:28
SPEAKER_07: We'll try and fit in as much as we can so that I mean, to help the parents out, right?
22:34
SPEAKER_07: There's a drop off, leave, come back in like three, four hours.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I also have to think about it.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: I have one studio that I work with primarily and I have a lot of little listeners from there.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: So what's up, friends?
22:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean who you are, who I use often.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: But it's, I'm always trying to remind my higher ups, like my bosses and myself that like, listen, these kids, these parents are doing the most.
23:05
SPEAKER_00: They're going to this, to that, to this, to that to get the kid to the studio.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: And then I'm asking them to come 30 minutes earlier to try on a shoe.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: Like, if they can't do it, they can't do it.
23:13
SPEAKER_05: Like that can stuff to do.
23:15
SPEAKER_05: Mix up the whole flow of their day and the schedule.
23:17
SPEAKER_05: I mean, right.
23:18
SPEAKER_05: Even what we I'm impressed that there's five of us on this podcast at the same time.
23:24
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, in our busy lives.
23:25
SPEAKER_05: It's and time zone differences.
23:27
SPEAKER_04: It is a lot to juggle.
23:29
SPEAKER_04: So scheduling in general is hard.
23:31
SPEAKER_05: So, like, props to all everyone who's making these schedules work to benefit, to maximize the time, like you said, Tara, and then to coordinate with other siblings.
23:40
SPEAKER_05: I can definitely see like there possibly being this like sibling rivalry or a parent, a kid's feeling like a sibling might have priority on their extracurricular activity based on the demands that that cr uh that potential activity needs.
23:57
SPEAKER_05: You know, it um comparing competitive dance versus recreational dance, right?
24:02
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, the demands of competitive dance are extremely intense and depending what you are putting your dancer in and what they want to do as far as training, they could be at the studio almost every day.
24:15
SPEAKER_05: And you know, versus like, oh, we're just doing this for fun, we're doing rec, we're gonna take dance class once, twice a week, you know, that's an easier commitment.
24:23
SPEAKER_05: But then is the other sibling in the competitive sport?
24:25
SPEAKER_05: And how do you decide like who gets the time and the dedication?
24:29
SPEAKER_05: So it's a lot.
24:30
SPEAKER_05: And so I I give you all the props for sure.
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25:48
SPEAKER_00: Casey, I wanted to know, y'all, your daughters both started out dancing around the same time.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: When you decided to put your daughter into competitive dance, did you know, like what how did you find out about the the level of activity that this was going to be and the time commitment for the weekends and everything?
26:05
SPEAKER_00: And were you, did you have to convince yourself that I'm gonna go all in and support her on this, or was it her idea?
26:11
SPEAKER_06: Well, we were invited.
26:13
SPEAKER_06: So we were at the studio, she was taking one class, and that was the level we were at.
26:19
SPEAKER_06: My sons were already playing club basketball, which is kind of like the competitive version of basketball.
26:26
SPEAKER_06: Like it's bet that that step up from rec.
26:28
SPEAKER_06: So we're traveling, going to, you know, tournaments and whatnot.
26:33
SPEAKER_06: And she got a letter at the end of the season that said, Hey, we really think your daughter has what it takes to be on team.
26:39
SPEAKER_06: We would like to invite you to audition.
26:42
SPEAKER_06: Now they're sneaky because they give it to the child, of course, not the parent.
26:46
SPEAKER_06: So my daughter comes home and she's like, let her sneaky.
26:50
SPEAKER_06: And then I'm how do we just say no?
26:53
SPEAKER_06: How do we say no?
26:54
SPEAKER_06: Parent.
26:55
SPEAKER_06: And you know, my husband is very supportive, and he's like, Well, we're gonna let her try.
27:01
SPEAKER_06: Let's let her give it a go.
27:02
SPEAKER_06: So we let her do the audition and it was tons of fun.
27:05
SPEAKER_06: She made the team, and I had no idea what I was signing up for.
27:09
SPEAKER_06: And I found other parents that were already on the team that had gone to our child school, and so I was connecting with them and just like, hey, what is this about?
27:17
SPEAKER_06: And they're like, Oh, it's expensive.
27:18
SPEAKER_06: And I was like, What?
27:19
SPEAKER_06: That's the first thing they said.
27:20
SPEAKER_06: And like, first word out of their mouth, this is expensive.
27:23
SPEAKER_06: And I had no idea.
27:24
SPEAKER_06: I was like, oh, it can't be that bad.
27:26
SPEAKER_06: My boys play club basketball.
27:29
SPEAKER_06: No, it's not, it's not even on the same planet.
27:32
SPEAKER_06: So I experienced it and learned it all just kind of firsthand.
27:38
SPEAKER_06: It was quite a ride, but we really, really enjoyed it so much.
27:41
SPEAKER_06: But it was a bit of a shock.
27:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
27:44
SPEAKER_05: What about the shock of like the expensive dance in general?
27:49
SPEAKER_05: Like, what happens if a dancer wants to dance and a parent wants to provide that to them as and support their dancer and their dreams?
27:58
SPEAKER_05: But financially it's a lot.
28:00
SPEAKER_05: Like they it it they can't do the exp, you know, the high cost of competitive dance.
28:07
SPEAKER_05: Any have have you has anybody ever experienced that?
28:11
SPEAKER_05: Did you just say, nope, this is their dream and we're doing it?
28:13
SPEAKER_06: We're committing.
28:14
SPEAKER_06: It starts off small, and I think that's one of the things of having younger children is initially my daughter started off on the team, and I don't recall, I think Amira had a similar experience.
28:25
SPEAKER_06: They give them less dances when they're little.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
28:28
SPEAKER_06: And so it's like we only had three dances.
28:31
SPEAKER_06: We had a production, we had a small group and a large group, and that was it.
28:35
SPEAKER_06: And so the cost was steep, but also her requirements for attending classes was less as well because she was younger.
28:42
SPEAKER_06: So it kind of starts off minimal and then it slowly ramps up.
28:47
SPEAKER_06: And as your child, yes, Tara's shaking her head, yes.
28:50
SPEAKER_06: As your child gets more addicted and into it and their ability to commit and invest their own time and energy into it grows.
28:59
SPEAKER_06: So does, okay.
29:00
SPEAKER_06: Well, next year, you know, she got into five dances.
29:03
SPEAKER_06: And then it's like, let's add on a solo.
29:06
SPEAKER_06: And then it just continues to develop.
29:09
SPEAKER_06: And at some point, you know, really from the beginning, parents have to take responsibility.
29:12
SPEAKER_06: We have to understand what we can afford, where do we have to draw the line?
29:17
SPEAKER_06: And if that's three dances, that's three dances.
29:19
SPEAKER_06: And we've got to cut out all the fear of missing out or keeping up with the person next door who's able to have their child in 20 dances.
29:27
SPEAKER_06: Like that's okay if you're not in 20 dances.
29:29
SPEAKER_06: You don't need to be.
29:30
SPEAKER_05: It's truly okay, everybody.
29:31
SPEAKER_05: I just want to let you know.
29:32
SPEAKER_05: I actually don't really want to see someone do 20 dances.
29:36
SPEAKER_05: I'd I'd be like, are you taking five days a week ballet instead?
29:39
SPEAKER_05: I'd rather you be training, putting that money towards training and not, I mean, competition dances training.
29:45
SPEAKER_05: I'm not saying it's not, but 20 dances is excessive and a lot of money.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: And also real.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: Some people do do that.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: So like we're not even exaggerating.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: And like five solos.
29:56
SPEAKER_06: And it feels a little bit of like frog boiling in the water realize how expensive it is until you get like deeper into it.
30:06
SPEAKER_06: But you start off in that cool water, that cool pot.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: I think the biggest challenge when you're a new dance parent is that you I always say, like, you don't know what you don't know.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: So you just have no concept of what these expensive expenses can be.
30:19
SPEAKER_02: So when you're like, oh, more dances, amazing, solo, awesome.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, you just are kind of diving in.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: And then later you have to start paying for things.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: And it's like showing up for your competition.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: And here's your invoice.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: And so I think that you you can't really anticipate without knowing.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: And Casey and I put together, uh, Casey worked really hard on it.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give this to Casey put together a budget like calculator.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: That we have on our, we have on our Linktree.
30:46
SPEAKER_02: And it's it's gonna differ by studio.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: Our Instagram is at TwoDance Moms Podcast.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: And on the Link Tree, there's a budget calculator where you can kind of enter what your studio's specific expenses are for each of the line items.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: And some of the things these new dance parents may have no idea are even factors.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: But I think it will kind of um ease the blow for when it comes later.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't have to be that calculator.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: I think maybe it's just touching base with the studio and kind of tempering their expectations about what you're gonna be paying for so that you know before you make the decision.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Because once you've told your dancer she can go full throttle and she's got six dances, it's probably too late.
31:25
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's actually something on the studio end that we have done that has seemed to have worked out before they even audition.
31:32
SPEAKER_07: If there's interest, if they receive that letter, or if they just come to us and want to audition, we already have a company packet and part of that company packet has a financial page.
31:42
SPEAKER_05: That's wonderful.
31:43
SPEAKER_07: And it gives it gives estimates.
31:45
SPEAKER_07: But you know, our youngest ones, just like you had mentioned before, tops two group dances.
31:52
SPEAKER_07: No solos, nothing else.
31:54
SPEAKER_07: We'd rather them even jump into some convention classes and get their feet wet there.
31:58
SPEAKER_07: But then again, sometimes that's you know, moms are not realizing at first how much, or dads or whoever the caretaker is, realizing how much some of this can cost.
32:11
SPEAKER_07: So to see that and have that on paper is sort of nice too, because they can sit down at the dinner table and just say, okay, is this feasible?
32:18
SPEAKER_07: Can we make this work?
32:20
SPEAKER_07: Because we have had it happen before where dancers have auditioned, have made it, and then had to drop out of things.
32:26
SPEAKER_07: And that's really sad to see too.
32:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
32:29
SPEAKER_05: I I mean, I can't imagine.
32:31
SPEAKER_05: I I I think about all the time how much money my parents have invested into this.
32:36
SPEAKER_05: And luckily it's it's paid off in many, many ways in life skills like we mentioned, but also into an actual career that I am now living off of, you know, and not every dancer is going to have that professional dance, professional teaching, dance-related career.
32:52
SPEAKER_05: And that is okay.
32:54
SPEAKER_05: But it is it is something that is important for parents to sit down and and decide.
32:59
SPEAKER_05: And I think that, you know, even when selecting which studio you attend, like there are some studios that religiously go to seven, eight competitions a season.
33:08
SPEAKER_05: And it's like, do we need all of that?
33:10
SPEAKER_05: And can you afford all of that?
33:12
SPEAKER_05: Because, you know, it's either you have more dances and you go to less comps, or you have a lot of dance, less whatever, the you know, flip it around.
33:20
SPEAKER_05: Like it's all gonna possibly average out, but you just have to figure out what works best for you and your situation financially as a family, because it is important to not get wrapped up too much in it where you're in over your head and then you're like, but my kid loves this and this is their dream, and they this is where their friends are.
33:38
SPEAKER_05: And like, you know, you want to know right from the beginning, especially even, I think um the packet is so great, and even to be able to look at the future, the projected future of that dance career, you know, if they're coming in at five years old, coming in at seven years old, what will it look like when they're 12, when they're 13 financially?
33:57
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely as an estimate, obviously.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, adjusted for inflation.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, the real the reality of the world we live in.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: I am curious.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: This is sort of a a it's the same question, but it's from very different perspective.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: So for my dance moms, when they're like, at what point do you as a mom decide to intervene at the studio and be supportive in that, you know, or is it is it when when do you not intervene because you want your child to work something out on on their own?
34:27
SPEAKER_00: And then Tara, similar, like, are there ever situations where you're like, I need a mom in here right now?
34:32
SPEAKER_00: I need a caregiver in here to be because this is not working out, or I can tell that they they really need the support.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, have there been circumstances like that for any of y'all?
34:41
SPEAKER_00: And what has happened?
34:42
SPEAKER_06: Definitely.
34:43
SPEAKER_06: I think from the beginning, it again comes down to age appropriateness and how old your child is, you will be more involved the younger they are, and you will step back the older they get because we want to coach our children into being healthy, independent adults.
34:59
SPEAKER_06: And the involvement will still be there, but as much as possible, we want it on the back end.
35:03
SPEAKER_06: We want to be at home and have that relationship and that communication where they're talking to us and saying, hey, this is going on at the dance studio.
35:10
SPEAKER_06: And we can talk through it at the dinner table or on the way home from the studio.
35:16
SPEAKER_06: And, you know, parents can give their advice and their coaching and their direction on, hey, this is how I think you should handle it and this is the best way to resolve this issue.
35:25
SPEAKER_06: I think as as minimal as possible, the parent should be involved.
35:29
SPEAKER_06: That's my goal, I think.
35:31
SPEAKER_06: Unless there's like a safety issue or other parents are already involved, then I would definitely involve myself.
35:38
SPEAKER_06: Or if there was like a behavioral issue that the studio was addressing, then I would intervene and make myself present.
35:46
SPEAKER_06: But otherwise I would I would really error on the side of really trying to coach my child from the back end on how to handle as much as possible.
35:53
SPEAKER_07: I mean, coming from the other side, I completely agree there.
35:57
SPEAKER_07: You know, not only as a dance educator, I also consider myself a mentor to these dancers.
36:02
SPEAKER_07: So really, it's almost more important for me to educate them and lead them as humans than it is even as dancers.
36:10
SPEAKER_07: And I say that to everyone at the very beginning.
36:12
SPEAKER_07: Um, so whenever we have had any issues or anything that's been sticky, I will always try and handle it myself first.
36:19
SPEAKER_07: Sometimes that's just a small talk with one individual dancer that might lead to, you know, more than one dancer if there's kind of something going on between them.
36:30
SPEAKER_07: I will always, though, make sure that the the parents do have a little bit of a heads up on anything that might have happened, or if any like like real sit-down discussions or something that kind of seemed like, you know, I had to like pull someone aside and be like, okay, let's just gather ourselves.
36:48
SPEAKER_07: Because it's happened before, where dancers have gone home and have expressed what has happened, and we've gotten those angry phone calls, you know, just because of the unknown.
36:58
SPEAKER_07: The parents don't know.
37:00
SPEAKER_07: So we'll always try and interject before that even happens.
37:04
SPEAKER_07: You know, we'll send a little heads up or talk to them at pickup or whatever the case may be.
37:08
SPEAKER_07: But I love, I mean, especially our older dancers, there have been, there have been little issues in, I mean, we're together all the time.
37:16
SPEAKER_07: So there's like that sister bond or that sibling bond.
37:20
SPEAKER_07: And I always push them to have the conversations with each other.
37:25
SPEAKER_07: I'll always say, I'm here.
37:26
SPEAKER_07: I can be present if you want me to as well.
37:29
SPEAKER_07: And so far it's worked out pretty good.
37:31
SPEAKER_07: But we've also had those times where we've had to bring parents in.
37:35
SPEAKER_07: Or I mean, there's even been a couple of instances, unfortunately, where there have been even bigger accusations where people have kind of, you know, felt uh very attacked per se.
37:47
SPEAKER_07: And then we've actually even sought out professionals to help us there and kind of help lead the team or the dancers or whatever group it is into just, you know, healthier thinking, healthier relationships.
37:59
SPEAKER_07: Because that's what we want.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: And like you said, you're you're all there together all the time.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: And there's always going to be conflict, you know, in some way with people who spend a lot of time together doing the same thing.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: And hello, we're all dancers, we're passionate.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: There's passion, and with passion comes a little bit of infighting sometimes.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: So I I love that you sometimes can utilize outside sources to help with that.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we'll have a team team bonding episode coming up this season where we really talk about that and we tackle that and how that can really help if you are, if your studio is kind of not devolving, but like struggling with some communication issues or interpersonal issues.
38:33
SPEAKER_07: But even a check-in with that sort of stuff.
38:36
SPEAKER_07: Whenever it is done, I hear from the parents immediately.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:40
SPEAKER_07: Oh, I think what you did is wonderful.
38:42
SPEAKER_07: Or um, my daughter came home and had this sheet of paper with all these compliments from her her friends.
38:50
SPEAKER_07: And it's just a nice reminder sometimes too.
38:53
unknown: Yeah.
38:54
SPEAKER_05: And to communicate it with the parents so it's not just something that they never even knew existed or never even knew happened at the studio, which they might really respect and love the transparency.
39:05
SPEAKER_05: And I also think that it protects the studio when there's that heads-up given, because we all know that something might happen in class and a kid might interpret it completely different than what actually transpired.
39:19
SPEAKER_05: And then they go home and tell parent, Miss Susie called me out in front of everybody and attacked me and blah-blah blah, whatever it is.
39:27
SPEAKER_05: And then, you know, angry parent.
39:29
SPEAKER_05: And it's like, okay, well, hold on.
39:30
SPEAKER_05: Before that even happens, let's this is exactly a little little email, little check-in at pickup, like you said, to just cover the bases on both sides to be kind of that middleman to say, this happened in class, however, this was how it was handled.
39:44
SPEAKER_05: And the dancer might be upset, but just want to let you know this is what's going on.
39:49
SPEAKER_05: So I I appreciate that transparency.
39:51
SPEAKER_05: And I think that possibly needs to happen a little bit more at uh some studios because those are the type of things I think that we see all the time in all these groups is that type of those types of conversations.
40:03
SPEAKER_05: And I think just a little bit more transparency um on the teacher's end to the parents could be helpful.
40:09
SPEAKER_07: Totally.
40:09
SPEAKER_07: I'm game.
40:12
SPEAKER_05: Now I'm curious to know what about the parents who are a little bit, I'm not gonna say too supportive, maybe a little too pushy.
40:20
SPEAKER_05: Maybe they like they will they love this more than maybe their kid actually wants, that are just like in it to win it and will do whatever it takes and make sure that their kid is number one, the star, or that they are like full-blown dance moms, maybe too involved in the relationship with the studios.
40:40
SPEAKER_05: Have you experienced this at in as your time as dance parents or dance directors?
40:47
SPEAKER_05: And how can those parents better support their dancers?
40:51
SPEAKER_05: Maybe they're listening.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: I think I want to hear what Tara has to say because I'm sure she has the best stories.
40:58
SPEAKER_02: But I will just say, as a dance mom, I can say that I have seen some maybe behavior that would indicate that maybe the parent wants it more than the kid, or that they're approaching it from what I consider to be the wrong angle.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: But I think the the biggest thing for me that I I feel about us being there supporting our dancers is I feel like unless we are dance professionals, which, you know, in your case, Tara, that may be, you know, your case, but even if we are dance professionals, I don't feel like we should ever be critiquing our kids in their dancing.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: I feel like they receive judges' feedback after uh competitions.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: We do our research and put them in the hands of some of the best teachers and directors that we can find in our studio.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: So we have to kind of lean into those professionals that we're putting them in the hands of.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: And I feel like I have seen some dance parents critique their own kids.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: And all around, I just think that there's not good that comes of it.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: So I make a really conscious choice to just say, I think you did amazing, or I love watching you, and comments like that, even if there is like a slip-up or I noticed she slipped on something, I may not say that was your best run, but maybe wording it like, gosh, I love watching you, or you are such a performer, or something like that.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: I feel like that is where we as dance parents can support, but we have chosen to put our hands, are our kids in the hands of dance teachers and choreographers and directors, and that that is where they should receive critiques.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: So that is my stance that I just don't think if you're critiquing your kid, maybe back off a little bit.
42:41
SPEAKER_05: I just have to say, like you saying that, it just brought me back to like my youth.
42:46
SPEAKER_05: And I'm just like thinking about what did you say?
42:50
SPEAKER_05: Robin out there, sorry, mom.
42:52
SPEAKER_05: The amount of times like she would tell me, like, that wasn't your best performance, Courtney.
42:57
SPEAKER_05: You know, like after I get up date.
43:00
SPEAKER_05: And I'm just like, I'm reliving that right now.
43:02
SPEAKER_05: And I'm telling you, like, as a dancer, it is the word, like we wanna, we wanna please our dance teacher.
43:08
SPEAKER_05: We want to obviously please the judges, but we want to please our dance teacher and we want to please our parents.
43:12
SPEAKER_05: They are like those are our two biggest supporters that as kids, that's that's who and ourselves.
43:17
SPEAKER_05: But sometimes we prioritize that more than you know what how we feel leaving the stage.
43:23
SPEAKER_05: And we just need that confirmation that it is okay, even if I fell out of my foite turns, mom.
43:30
SPEAKER_05: It is okay if my foot was a little forgotten about in my bat ma, mom.
43:34
SPEAKER_05: Don't tell me that it was.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, Courtney like wins the whole thing most of the time.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: So, like, Robin, calm down.
43:41
SPEAKER_00: Her foot was fine.
43:42
SPEAKER_05: I it it does, it hurts, it hurts as a dancer to hear that type of criticism when you get off stage because you already know you messed up.
43:51
SPEAKER_05: You're already feeling that way.
43:52
SPEAKER_05: You don't need to hear it from mom as well, who mom doesn't even know what even went wrong.
43:58
SPEAKER_05: They just know that it wasn't.
44:00
SPEAKER_05: Your best.
44:00
SPEAKER_04: And it's it's hard to swallow for sure.
44:03
SPEAKER_04: So I I feel you.
44:05
SPEAKER_04: I feel you.
44:05
SPEAKER_04: It's great advice, Yamira.
44:08
SPEAKER_07: You know, too.
44:09
SPEAKER_07: I don't even think you need to hear it from your dance teacher.
44:12
SPEAKER_07: Like you said, you know.
44:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, not a comp.
44:16
SPEAKER_07: Right, right.
44:17
SPEAKER_07: I mean, nine times out of out of ten, the dancers getting off that stage, they just want to hug.
44:24
SPEAKER_07: They want to hug, they want to smile.
44:26
SPEAKER_07: They did it.
44:26
SPEAKER_07: They went out there.
44:27
SPEAKER_07: They did the very best that they could at that moment.
44:30
SPEAKER_07: And guess what?
44:32
SPEAKER_07: We we go on.
44:33
SPEAKER_07: We get ready for the next day.
44:34
SPEAKER_07: Now it's over.
44:35
SPEAKER_07: Right, right.
44:37
SPEAKER_07: And I always say, especially those dancers that come off the stage that are feeling a little down, it's this is actually even more beneficial, possibly.
44:45
SPEAKER_07: Like you're gonna grow from this and be stronger and be able to be better equipped the next time something like this happens.
44:54
SPEAKER_07: So I always try and spin that positive as much as possible, especially during like a long weekend.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: Long days.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: One of my favorite things when I was in like acting and singing lessons, you know, dance was one thing.
45:06
SPEAKER_00: I was good at that.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: I was very good at that.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: Acting and singing, secondary skills, nervous, not feeling my best all the time.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: But one of my teachers, she would never, you'd finish your your presentation or whatever, and then she would say, How did that feel?
45:20
SPEAKER_00: And it's not about her.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: It was about you and how you felt and what you did.
45:24
SPEAKER_00: And half the time, everything I said was what she would have said anyway, was, well, my I was flat here and I know that I could have made whole held that note out longer or whatever it was.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: And so I think that can apply to dancers too.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, it's not about how anybody else feels about it.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: How did you feel?
45:38
SPEAKER_00: Did you feel great?
45:39
SPEAKER_00: Great.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: And then like later, maybe we have a conversation.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: It's like, I'm glad I'm glad you felt great.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: How did you what about this one moment over here?
45:45
SPEAKER_00: What could we do better there?
45:47
SPEAKER_00: You know, take it away from that moment of yeah, exactly.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, but in the moment, how did you feel?
45:52
SPEAKER_00: I hope you feel great.
45:53
SPEAKER_06: I think there is an element too of supporting your kid when they don't feel like they did well.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:57
SPEAKER_06: And if my daughter gets off stage and she doesn't feel like it was her best run, and I very likely couldn't tell, you know.
46:05
SPEAKER_06: But if she feels disappointed in something that didn't go the way she wanted to, just allowing her to be disappointed for a minute and like not having to talk her out of it, not having to critique her, but also just being like, you know, it was beautiful.
46:18
SPEAKER_06: We love you, you know, and that's okay.
46:21
SPEAKER_06: Like it's okay that you feel disappointed for a minute and shake it off and move on to the next because there's probably another dance in a couple of minutes.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, and nothing is worse than hearing anybody, your parent, your teacher, anybody tell you they thought it was a great job when you know it wasn't.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, I do not want to hear you try to tell me this was good and I know full well it wasn't, and you probably do too.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: You're just trying to be nice.
46:43
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: That's true.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna feel my feelings over here.
46:46
SPEAKER_07: On the flip side of that, though, as well, I have had dancers come off and they feel slightly like that.
46:53
SPEAKER_07: And it's sometimes an instance of I want you to go re-watch.
46:57
SPEAKER_07: I want, I want you to watch what just happened, and they'll come back to me and said, Oh, it wasn't that bad.
47:04
SPEAKER_07: A little bit better than how it felt.
47:06
SPEAKER_07: And I'm like, Yes.
47:07
SPEAKER_07: And that's where we get into the whole trust your training and trust yourself and trust your choices.
47:13
SPEAKER_07: And so I mean, I think they both can work.
47:16
SPEAKER_07: It just it always depends.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: And I think just knowing your child too, because if you don't, then you could come at it the absolutely wrong way.
47:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, but if you if you really like it sounds like Amir and Casey do, like you talk to your children, you understand your children, it seems like you have a good rapport where they feel like they can tell you the truth about whatever is happening, then you're probably gonna be able to pick which way to support them that's gonna work, you know.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure it might ebb and flow over the years when things change, but you know, I think the communication aspect from all of you is like that's it.
47:50
SPEAKER_00: That's how you support your dancer and your studio.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: You could you you communicate.
47:54
SPEAKER_07: I think knowing when your dancer needs that communication too.
47:57
SPEAKER_07: Sometimes it's before.
47:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
47:59
SPEAKER_07: Sometimes it's a week later.
48:02
SPEAKER_07: Right.
48:02
SPEAKER_07: Right.
48:03
SPEAKER_07: Because I have seen many dancers get very stressed, kind of getting back onto like those parents that are a lot.
48:10
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
48:10
SPEAKER_07: Or almost might seem like they want it more than the child.
48:14
SPEAKER_07: It I just I just see so much unnecessary stress that happens in the poor dancers.
48:20
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
48:20
SPEAKER_07: You know, just adding that extra layer onto them.
48:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because they're already you're they're already nervous going in.
48:26
SPEAKER_05: They're already, you know, stressed out about that turn sequence that the teacher put in two weeks ago and they're still not feeling super confident with.
48:34
SPEAKER_05: They have all these other things going on, the costume's itchy or whatever.
48:37
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, there's so many things you don't even think about.
48:40
SPEAKER_05: And then to have like a prodding parent, like, well, did you warm up?
48:45
SPEAKER_05: Well, is your is your I mean, I I remember these moments, like, you know, do you have the enough bobby pins in your hair?
48:51
SPEAKER_05: And just like attacking you 24-7 to just like try to do their job and and make sure you go out on stage prepared, but also like it's putting you in a different mental space before you go on stage and might stress you out and be like, I wish my mom would just leave me alone so I could just go out and do my thing and like trust that I'm gonna be great.
49:09
SPEAKER_05: Like I would have to like leave the dressing room and like decompress and go backstage early and just like do my thing to kind of escape the unnecessary stress of my mom.
49:19
SPEAKER_05: Unfortunately, my mom.
49:21
SPEAKER_05: Sorry, mom, but like it's true.
49:22
SPEAKER_05: And I think you have to kind of as a parent, like read the energy.
49:26
SPEAKER_05: And and as you evolve as a dance parent, you'll know, okay, they they probably don't need me here anymore.
49:32
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna back off.
49:33
SPEAKER_05: You do you.
49:34
SPEAKER_05: You know, if you if your hair piece falls off, that's on you because you should have bobby pinned it because you didn't want me in the dressing room to stress you out, you know, whatever it is.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Natural consequences.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's a parenting technique, right?
49:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
49:46
SPEAKER_06: I think it's also great you can trade kids for a day.
49:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah and just be like, hey, I'm gonna get your kids' hair and makeup ready when they're younger and they need help still.
49:54
SPEAKER_06: And it's like having that, you know, other mom that's not your mom do your hair and makeup, and they're not gonna talk to you about anything, really, other than just like, does this hurt when I jab this bobby pin in the hole?
50:04
SPEAKER_06: And that's it.
50:04
SPEAKER_06: And then they send you off.
50:06
SPEAKER_06: And sometimes it's good to just tag team a little bit.
50:08
SPEAKER_06: Totally.
50:09
SPEAKER_00: Find your dance mom friends.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: That's some great advice.
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51:22
SPEAKER_02: So I think all the dance moms, Robin included, we're we're just trying to do our best, right?
51:27
SPEAKER_02: We're just trying to help our kids.
51:29
SPEAKER_02: And sometimes we have to be doing.
51:31
SPEAKER_02: And so maybe controlling the very basic things like food for your dancer.
51:37
SPEAKER_02: Like make sure that they've got healthy food ready and when is their food break and pass it along to them.
51:41
SPEAKER_02: You don't even need to like talk about their bun or whatever, just kind of pass the food and be there.
51:46
SPEAKER_02: And then making sure that they're getting like sleep that they need and that they have the shoes ready that they need and whatever dance bag they've got going.
51:53
SPEAKER_02: Those are like controllable things that make me feel like, all right, I'm helping, I'm doing this.
51:57
SPEAKER_02: That I think dancers will appreciate.
51:59
SPEAKER_02: And then you're maybe less getting involved in like, are they warmed up or can I do this?
52:04
SPEAKER_02: And your nerves may not be transferring to them negatively.
52:08
SPEAKER_02: So I think it is possible to be in involved and not have to like steer clear of your dancer on these stressful days, but by kind of just planning ahead for them and thinking about the things that they don't have the time to think about, like food and water and sleep and when you're going to eat this and where your shoes are for the next, you know, in the case of conventions, it's crazy back-to-back-to-back classes.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: So you can set it up for your dancer.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't care if they're five, six, or if they're 17, you can have it ready for them.
52:33
SPEAKER_02: And in that way, you're useful.
52:35
SPEAKER_02: So that's how I like to kind of feel like I'm useful, but not making my dancer crazy.
52:40
SPEAKER_07: Oh, that's a great wonderful.
52:42
SPEAKER_07: That's a great point.
52:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
52:43
SPEAKER_05: That's wonderful advice.
52:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think it's it's knowing the balance of when you're overstepping too much as a dance parent to help the kid succeed in in those high stress moments of backstage at competition, changing costumes or at convention classes and things like that.
52:59
SPEAKER_05: And I think it's important for the parents to also ask, like, what do you what do you need from me?
53:04
SPEAKER_05: What would you like me to do?
53:05
SPEAKER_05: Instead of just controlling or or thinking that your kid isn't capable of doing certain things on their own.
53:12
SPEAKER_05: Because I think that sometimes the kids I know I I liked to feel like I've got I've got this.
53:18
SPEAKER_05: I don't need your help with this.
53:19
SPEAKER_05: I don't need your help with that.
53:21
SPEAKER_05: You know, as a kid, sometimes they like to take that responsibility and feel like they've accomplished something.
53:26
SPEAKER_05: And if mom's just always hovering to to make sure that you're getting every, you know, all of those things taken care of, but it's like you could actually prove mom wrong.
53:34
SPEAKER_05: Like, actually, I took care of it already, mom.
53:37
SPEAKER_05: And they're be like, what really?
53:39
SPEAKER_05: You know.
53:39
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, it could be, I think, having those communications instead of in those high stress.
53:44
SPEAKER_05: I'm primarily talking about those high stress because we all know competition days are overwhelming and stressful.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: I think it's empowering when they're able to do it.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: I think it's really empowering for them.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
53:58
SPEAKER_07: And a reminder too that a lot of that is prepped at the studio.
54:03
SPEAKER_07: You know, there's just so much that goes on within the the rehearsals inside the studio that sometimes the parents don't get to see.
54:11
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
54:11
SPEAKER_07: You know, there are those moments where we sit down and we talk about this is what our weekend is going to look like.
54:17
SPEAKER_07: And just even getting them, especially the younger ones as they age and just get older and do more of this.
54:22
SPEAKER_07: Just getting them into the the rhythm, the like what works for them.
54:28
SPEAKER_07: What should you be doing?
54:29
SPEAKER_07: What should you not be doing?
54:31
SPEAKER_07: All those things.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: It's the choreography behind the scenes.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, all it all it really is is just choreography because I know I have to change costumes here and you just have to learn it, you know.
54:40
SPEAKER_00: And it's so much easier when you've had the conversation, Tara, in class before the event.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, obviously first few times is really challenging if you've never done it before, but then you get in the rhythm.
54:50
SPEAKER_05: And with that, and especially because we are at the earlier side of the dance season, I think that, and I don't know if studios are listening or teachers are listening, but I think that it's really important for studios to have like not just at the beginning of the season, like a sit-down, here's how the studio works 101 for new parents, but like it should be a yearly thing.
55:12
SPEAKER_05: Like anyone can come, let's sit down, let's have refreshers, let's have reminders about etiquette, let's talk about like what a day in the life of a dance competition day would look like on the parent side, things that you need to remember to have and revisit that frequently and not just prioritize that for new members.
55:30
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if a lot of, I mean, based on sometimes what like the etiquette that I see happening at conventions, I don't know if those conversations are being had.
55:38
SPEAKER_05: And honestly, I feel bad for some of the parents because I just don't think they were informed of how how to do these things and what is expected uh from your kid and from you.
55:48
SPEAKER_05: I mean, even like parents are getting in the convention spaces with the huge blankets and like having picnics on the floors and in my convention class.
55:56
SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, excuse me.
55:57
SPEAKER_05: And then they're talking and I'm like, what's going on?
56:00
SPEAKER_05: You know?
56:00
SPEAKER_05: So I think that they're those types of conversations that is supporting our dancers to make it a great experience for them.
56:08
SPEAKER_05: So the parents come prepared and they feel like they can help and they know what's about to happen.
56:12
SPEAKER_05: They're not just walking in completely blind, like, so what are we doing?
56:16
SPEAKER_05: What where am I supposed to be?
56:17
SPEAKER_05: You know, like I think that type of communication from studios could happen more frequently throughout the season.
56:24
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
56:24
SPEAKER_07: Reminders are always good.
56:26
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
56:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
56:27
SPEAKER_05: Not always just the email because we know not everybody reads an email, no matter how long we type it.
56:33
SPEAKER_06: Both sides of it.
56:34
SPEAKER_06: I remember the first time we went to convention, I listened to your episode on conventions.
56:39
SPEAKER_06: So I was prepared.
56:41
SPEAKER_06: And thankfully, our director did something very similar.
56:45
SPEAKER_06: She coached all the kids when you're being spoken to by a teacher.
56:49
SPEAKER_06: You're not gonna cross your arms, you're not gonna put your hands on your hips.
56:53
SPEAKER_06: There was a lot of even how you stand and receive instruction in a way that is respectful to the teachers with whom that you are attending their classes.
57:02
SPEAKER_06: And I just remember it was a very impactful learning experience for my daughter, and she carries it with her everywhere she goes on how she stands in any class, that she doesn't want to give the impression that she is bored or uninterested in what that teacher is saying.
57:17
SPEAKER_06: So she's very mindful about how she stands.
57:20
SPEAKER_06: But we learned it in in she learned it in class, and I learned from listening to your podcast about conventions.
57:26
SPEAKER_06: So we all gotta learn because we didn't know.
57:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: No, you don't know what you don't know, like you like you guys said.
57:32
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
57:33
SPEAKER_05: Well, I think this chat has been extremely beneficial and wildly supportive of our dancers and the studio life as we're kicking off this new 2025 competition and dance season.
57:47
SPEAKER_05: And I hope that all of our listeners out there learned a little bit of new information, maybe have some new ideas, new approaches on how they're going to walk into this season.
57:55
SPEAKER_05: Whether you are a brand new dance parent, whether you're a veteran, you've been doing this for a long time, there's always growth and ways to learn on how we can help support our dancers in the best way possible so they have the best experience in their dance life, because these years as a dancer are just, they will always be with them.
58:13
SPEAKER_05: I look, I reflect back as a dancer all the time, all those memories and the good, the bad, the ugly, to be honest.
58:21
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of emotions that will go through as dancers in our careers, and we want to make those memories the best possible.
58:28
SPEAKER_05: So we could and obviously we couldn't do it without all of these amazing parents that are helping finance and support their dancers' passions and dreams.
58:36
SPEAKER_05: So shout out to all of the dance parents out there who are making making it happen, making those sacrifices.
58:42
SPEAKER_05: Y'all are fantastic.
58:43
SPEAKER_05: We love you.
58:44
SPEAKER_05: And I'm thrilled with this episode.
58:46
SPEAKER_05: And I loved chatting with you three today on the pod.
58:50
SPEAKER_05: It was so much fun.
58:51
SPEAKER_07: So much fun.
58:52
SPEAKER_07: I loved every second of it.
58:53
SPEAKER_07: Thank you.
58:54
SPEAKER_06: Thank you guys so much.
58:56
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
58:57
SPEAKER_06: We're really grateful to be a part of it and love this topic.
59:00
SPEAKER_02: Yes, we love your we love your podcast, and I also love this topic.
59:04
SPEAKER_02: So thank you guys for having us on.
59:06
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
59:07
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, everybody go head over to your podcast platform of choice.
59:11
SPEAKER_00: Look up Two Dance Moms Podcast because there is so much more where this came from, because this is their platform.
59:17
SPEAKER_00: They are dance moms and they have all the advice.
59:20
SPEAKER_00: And they also bring in really great people to give advice that they can't give, just like we do.
59:24
SPEAKER_00: So we we loved having all of you here, Tara as well, with your expertise.
59:28
SPEAKER_00: And Cornel let you do the little outro intro.
59:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so how we always have our guests lead us out of the episode on making the impact is with one final thought on the topic.
59:40
SPEAKER_05: And you can speak to whoever you'd like out there.
59:42
SPEAKER_05: If you want to talk to the dance parents directly, if you want to share any uh anything you've learned as uh your time in the dance world, uh one final thought on how to support your dancer this season.
59:54
SPEAKER_07: I think my one final thought would be for the parents.
59:59
SPEAKER_07: And I think it's just to enjoy it.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_07: Enjoy the highs, enjoy the lows, enjoy everything in between.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_07: Because, like you said, Courtney, there's there's there are all the emotions.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_07: But I think it's still just development of the person, which I think is the most important.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_02: I'll do the next one.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_02: I think my final thought is it's not all gonna be perfect.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna try and do your best to make your dancer's years as a competitive dancer go as seamless as possible, but it is not gonna be perfect.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_02: And I think going into it knowing that and knowing that they're gonna learn more from their mistakes than their successes, even, is gonna make it all the more enjoyable for you.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_02: So if you're having a mistake moment or a down moment, just know that there's growth in it.
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SPEAKER_06: My uh parting thought is very similar to Amira's, but it's toward the kids.
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SPEAKER_06: And just a reminder, your parents love you and that they are trying their best and they're gonna make a lot of mistakes, but we're we're gonna try and improve every single time.
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SPEAKER_00: Stay tuned for more Making the Impact episodes coming up the next few weeks, including ballet competitions, anatomy for dancers, and costuming.
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SPEAKER_05: We hope you're enjoying season six so far.
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SPEAKER_05: Until then, keep dancing.