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Meet Joe Black... and Doug Jones · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is Doug Bradley, pinhead from the Hellraiser Films.
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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian and.
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  Speaker 8: This week we are coming to you live via digital
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  Speaker 8: recording from the floor once again as we rejoin our
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  Speaker 8: very casual hangout session with our special guest co-host Doug Jones. Yes,
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  Speaker 8: this week we are rejoining Doug from last episode. So
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  Speaker 8: if you haven't listened to that one yet, go back
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  Speaker 8: and listen to episode 318 to hear the rest of
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  Speaker 8: our conversation with Doug about his career, wearing crazy makeup appliances,
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  Speaker 8: and listening to Guillermo del Toro curse charmingly all the time.
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  Speaker 7: But that was last week.
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  Speaker 8: This episode we're back to settle in for a full
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  Speaker 8: Sofa Theater Feature movie discussion of Doug's pick, Meet Joe Black.
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  Speaker 8: So let's go there now as Anthony, Alec, and myself
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  Speaker 8: get cozy with Doug on the carpet and talk about
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  Speaker 8: a movie where the embodiment of death itself asks the
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  Speaker 8: ultimate question.
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  Speaker 7: What is love? Baby, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me
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  Speaker 7: no more. Baby, don't hurt me.
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  Speaker 3: Don't hurt me no more.
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  Speaker 8: You normally are sharing space and hugs with Lucy, the
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  Speaker 8: beloved Lucy, which it's not just you that wants to
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  Speaker 8: hug her.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody on the internet loves Lucy, too.
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  Speaker 8: Now, I thought this was odd timing and placement. You
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  Speaker 8: come here to her home state. She is currently in
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  Speaker 8: Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, where I, my home state.
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  Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 7: So, yeah, she is, she is.
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  Speaker 8: So, in case anybody wondered, why is Lucy not hanging
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  Speaker 8: out with Doug like she really wants to be? She
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  Speaker 8: was not happy with this timing, but she had grown
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  Speaker 8: up things she had to go do in LA.
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  Speaker 7: Lame.
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  Speaker 8: I'm back like I always am, but that's why Lucy
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  Speaker 8: is missing.
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  Speaker 9: We have these two puppies, and they're precious.
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  Speaker 10: Right?
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  Speaker 7: If you say so. I just drug them over here.
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  Speaker 7: On that note, should we roll into the movie?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Lads, yes.
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  Speaker 9: Meet Joe Black. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 13: It's time for Sofa Theater.
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  Speaker 12: 65 years. Don't they go by in a blink?
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  Speaker 3: Your death... Yes.
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  Speaker 12: You're not dead.
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  Speaker 14: You're just a kid in a suit.
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  Speaker 12: The suit came with the body I took.
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  Speaker 14: You want me to be your guy.
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  Speaker 12: I wish to see the world. Mr. Parrish, will the
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  Speaker 12: gentleman be staying for dinner, sir? Yes.
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  Speaker 14: If I say who you are, I don't think anyone will.
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  Speaker 12: Stay for dinner.
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  Speaker 9: Does your friend have a name?
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  Speaker 12: I'm sorry, this is Joe.
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  Speaker 15: Incidentally, Joe what?
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  Speaker 12: Black. Have we met? He's from out of town. Let
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  Speaker 12: me ask your opinion. Do I blend in? This is crazy.
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  Speaker 9: You're married, aren't you?
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  Speaker 12: No, I'm not. Gay. What is that? Peanut butter, sir.
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  Speaker 12: I thoroughly enjoy this peanut butter.
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  Speaker 14: This is Joe Black.
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  Speaker 12: He'll be joining us this morning.
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  Speaker 4: Our sole order of business today is an acceptance of
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  Speaker 4: John Bonacue's generous offer.
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  Speaker 12: I need more of these delicious cookies. And a cup
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  Speaker 12: of tea with milk, please. Is there anything else, Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Black?
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  Speaker 12: You like him, don't you? Yeah, I guess you do. Why, yes.
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  Speaker 12: In this world, nothing is certain but death and taxes.
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  Speaker 12: Death and taxes? Yes. What an odd pairing. Who is
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  Speaker 12: Joe Black? He sleeps at Bill's house. He never leaves
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  Speaker 12: his side. I have this big feeling of my need.
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  Speaker 14: You walk into my life, give me the worst news
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  Speaker 14: a guy can get, and now you're spooning with my daughter?
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  Speaker 12: I love him.
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  Speaker 16: I don't care if you love him!
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  Speaker 12: Easy, Bill. You'll give yourself a heart attack and ruin
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  Speaker 12: my vacation. Universal Pictures presents.
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  Speaker 17: I'm in love with a man, but I don't know
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  Speaker 17: who he is.
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  Speaker 12: Brad Pitt. What I know is what I want. And
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  Speaker 12: what I want is Susan.
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  Speaker 14: You're violating the laws of the universe.
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  Speaker 12: Anthony Hopkins.
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  Speaker 9: You're at the.
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  Speaker 14: Wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong woman.
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  Speaker 12: Are you threatening me? Yeah, I certainly hope so. And
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  Speaker 12: Claire Forlani. I want to be with you, Joe. In
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  Speaker 12: a Martin Brest film. The time has come to tell
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  Speaker 12: you who I am.
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  Speaker 3: Joe, I'm afraid.
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  Speaker 12: What's going on, Joe?
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  Speaker 9: I feel like we're lifting off.
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  Speaker 8: So, this week's Sofa Theater feature is Meet Joe Black,
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  Speaker 8: the year is 1998, director Martin Brest, and the plot,
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  Speaker 8: according to IMDb, is Death, who takes the form of
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  Speaker 8: a young man, asks a media mogul to act as
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  Speaker 8: his guide to teach him about life on Earth, and
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  Speaker 8: in the process, he falls in love with his guide's
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  Speaker 8: daughter or something to that effect.
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  Speaker 9: So.
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  Speaker 16: That is the plot of the movie.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it kind of breaks it all down.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, that's what IMDb said.
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  Speaker 9: This guy's daughter or something.
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  Speaker 7: Something all around.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why you steer clear of most other things
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  Speaker 8: on IMDb. Just read that basic stuff and then move on.
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  Speaker 9: And you're all good.
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  Speaker 7: So where would you like to begin? This was, once again,
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  Speaker 7: your choice.
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  Speaker 9: It was my choice, yes.
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  Speaker 8: Have you been taken with this film since you first
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  Speaker 8: saw it?
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: Now, mind you, I think the first time I was
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  Speaker 9: on your show, we talked about Somewhere in Time.
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  Speaker 7: Somewhere in Time.
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  Speaker 9: Which, again, is well outside my genre. And it was
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  Speaker 9: just the most syrupy, sweet, romantic movie ever. Me and
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  Speaker 9: Joe Black kind of falls in that category for me, too.
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  Speaker 7: I noticed you kind of have a theme going.
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  Speaker 9: Right, right. I like swelling music. I like beautiful people
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  Speaker 9: falling in love on film. Is there anything wrong with that?
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  Speaker 12: No.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you.
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  Speaker 16: I'm a big fan of both of those things. Thank you.
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  Speaker 9: Good, good.
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  Speaker 8: One of the first things, one of my first comments
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  Speaker 8: I made to myself as we're sort of watching the
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  Speaker 8: coffee shop unfold, and I'm like, wow.
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  Speaker 12: Claire Follani, she's really pretty.
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  Speaker 8: And then Brad comes in, and I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 8: Brad's really pretty.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, this is a story about pretty, pretty people.
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  Speaker 9: Pretty, pretty people.
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  Speaker 16: And Anthony Hopkins. And Anthony Hopkins.
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  Speaker 8: Pretty sex and pretty, pretty music.
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  Speaker 7: Right, right, right, right, right, right.
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  Speaker 9: And of course, I have a semi-connection to some people
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  Speaker 9: in the movie. Okay.
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  Speaker 8: Did you work with the director? Because last time around,
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  Speaker 8: you worked with the director of our film.
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  Speaker 7: What was the last one? Last time was Silver Lanes Playbook.
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  Speaker 7: And you were a dead guy. Have you been a
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  Speaker 7: dead guy in a Martin Press film?
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  Speaker 16: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 12: That's right.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, great.
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  Speaker 10: No, no.
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  Speaker 8: Not a dead Iraqi in any of Martin Press films.
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  Speaker 9: I've never worked with this particular director, no. But, of course,
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  Speaker 9: Claire Forlani, we mentioned her, the stunning beauty that she is.
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  Speaker 9: After Meet Joe Black, she played a waitress in a
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  Speaker 9: movie called Mystery Men, in which I have a cameo
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  Speaker 9: as Pencilhead in Mystery Men.
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  Speaker 12: No.
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  Speaker 9: No, we did not work on film together.
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  Speaker 7: It just kicked in in Anthony. You should see his face.
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  Speaker 9: No, we did not work together. We were in different days.
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  Speaker 9: But the fact that I'm credited in a movie with
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  Speaker 9: her was good enough for me. Then, let's see, then... Uh,
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  Speaker 9: my connection with Brad Pitt. Oh, okay. Uh, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 9: interview with the vampire, uh, 1994. We're going back a ways.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. That's what came out.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, yeah, 94.
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  Speaker 5: I think so.
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  Speaker 9: Um, I was brought in last minute. I was working
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  Speaker 9: on Tank Girl at the time. If you remember, you
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  Speaker 9: saw Tank Girl. And the creature effects makeup company that
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  Speaker 9: did the kangaroo guys that I was playing one of
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  Speaker 9: in Tank Girl was Stan Winston Studios. They were also
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  Speaker 9: doing the vampire makeups and all the creature effects on
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  Speaker 9: Interview the Vampire. So they were doing... reshoot like pickup
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  Speaker 9: shots for interview with vampire the same time at the
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  Speaker 9: same time i had a week off from tank girl
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  Speaker 9: and so the guys at the creature shop like doug
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  Speaker 9: we need your hand they needed my right hand to
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  Speaker 9: double for tom cruise in the very final scene of
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  Speaker 9: the movie where uh uh brad or sorry christian slater
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  Speaker 9: has been interviewing brad pitt for the entire film And
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  Speaker 9: so now he's just been like, you know, he went
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  Speaker 9: through it, he got crazy and said.
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  Speaker 7: Make me a vampire, make me a vampire!
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  Speaker 9: And then Brad Pitt scares him to death, and then
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  Speaker 9: he gets back in his car and drives away across
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  Speaker 9: the Golden Gate Bridge in his Mustang Convertible. From the
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  Speaker 9: backseat comes a hand.
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  Speaker 7: A creepy hand.
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  Speaker 10: Hand.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, that would be Tom Cruise's hand. But Lestat, at
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  Speaker 9: that time that he was playing, hadn't sucked blood or
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  Speaker 9: consumed any calories in many decades. So he was sickly
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  Speaker 9: and withdrawn and skinny. So they were thinking, okay, Tom
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  Speaker 9: Cruise's hand was too plump and young, and who could...
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  Speaker 9: And what?
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  Speaker 16: And Smalls.
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  Speaker 9: And he's for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what would
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  Speaker 9: be a longer spindly, more sickly looking hand? Let's call Doug.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 9: So that's why I got that call. And so they
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  Speaker 9: put the vampire fingernails on me and veined me up
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  Speaker 9: and made my tendons pop and all that. And so
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  Speaker 9: I worked on that movie for two days, met Christian Slater,
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  Speaker 9: Tom Cruise, and Brad Pitt, who was absolutely delightful. I assume. Right.
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  Speaker 9: So then four years later, then Meet Joe Black came out.
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  Speaker 9: And you know what? I was tickled about Brad for
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  Speaker 9: doing this movie. If you remember, he did a string.
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  Speaker 9: He screamed onto the scene in Thumb on Louise. And
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  Speaker 9: everybody was talking about what amazing abs he had. And
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  Speaker 9: so he was really tired of answering that question on
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  Speaker 9: red carpets. And an interviewer was like, do you have
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  Speaker 9: a workout regime or what? So he was getting so,
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  Speaker 9: and rightfully so. And he was like, okay, he wanted
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  Speaker 9: to be taken as a serious.
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  Speaker 7: I want to be more than my abs.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 9: He wanted to be taken as a serious actor.
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  Speaker 13: Right.
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  Speaker 9: So he started dumbing down his look and uglying himself
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  Speaker 9: up on purpose when he was like, remember 12 Monkeys?
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  Speaker 8: He's awesome in 12 Monkeys.
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  Speaker 9: He was awesome in, right. And so he was doing
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  Speaker 9: things where he didn't want to take his shirt off
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  Speaker 9: in the film. Meet Joe Black was a return to OMG,
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  Speaker 9: that is the most pretty man on the freaking planet, right?
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 16: Those abs exist. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: It's a tie with Legends of the Fall Brad Pitt,
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  Speaker 8: who may be the prettiest Brad Pitt ever.
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  Speaker 9: There was the long hair, the flake guy.
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  Speaker 1: The undressing of Joe Black is really shot well.
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  Speaker 7: And lengthy. Lengthy.
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  Speaker 12: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And eventually, they just make this eye contact, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like this unspoken bond, and then he knows, like, Playing Death,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, now I take my clothes off and
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  Speaker 1: then I take yours off. But as the audience, when
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  Speaker 1: you sit there and you can see just by their
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  Speaker 1: facial expressions that this character, Death, who Brad Pitt's Joe
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  Speaker 1: Black embodies, is getting to this realization of making a
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  Speaker 1: human connection through physical intimacy.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: And it was innocent and gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: No music, too.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 1: In the sex scene, no music.
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  Speaker 5: Is that right?
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  Speaker 9: Is that right? Oh, I didn't even, wasn't paying attention.
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  Speaker 16: I was distracted.
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  Speaker 8: Music?
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  Speaker 16: Schmooze it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. I mean, if I was Death Incarnate 2,
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  Speaker 6: I'd probably pick Brad Pitt's body. That was the most
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  Speaker 6: recent death around me.
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  Speaker 8: Especially after it ping-ponged out in the middle of the street.
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  Speaker 6: Speaking of, that death scene was very violent.
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  Speaker 9: Was that a shocker? Because there's this beautiful coffee shop
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  Speaker 9: scene that opens that relationship up. First of all, that's
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  Speaker 9: the kind of coffee date I love having, where you
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  Speaker 9: can just sit there and let the date tick on
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  Speaker 9: And just get to know someone and sip a warm
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  Speaker 9: brown drink. This is why this movie couldn't be long
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  Speaker 9: enough for me. Three hours was not long enough. I
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  Speaker 9: was just lapping up all of it. Because they would
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  Speaker 9: set up those moods and moments that you just wanted
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  Speaker 9: to live in. And that coffee shop, I lived in it.
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  Speaker 9: And I've seen these two gorgeous people getting to know
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  Speaker 9: each other. And there's a little spark of thing going on.
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  Speaker 9: And even as they're finishing up and she's got to
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  Speaker 9: get back to the hospital she's a doctor of course
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  Speaker 9: and he's got to go on to wherever he's going
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  Speaker 9: and and he's like saying well you know if we
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  Speaker 9: were to get married you know it's just hypothetically nothing
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  Speaker 9: wrong with a guy taking a man taking care of
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  Speaker 9: a woman because she takes care of him well good
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  Speaker 9: luck finding a woman like that and he said well
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  Speaker 9: maybe lightning will strike which was a call back to
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  Speaker 9: what her father had just said to her in the
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  Speaker 9: helicopter uh over to the mainland that day or whatever
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  Speaker 9: so uh it was just like ah Those moments are
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  Speaker 9: so beautiful. So all this beauty, beauty, this slow pace,
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  Speaker 9: this getting to know you, walking down the sidewalk, she
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  Speaker 9: looks back, he doesn't see it. He looks back, she
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  Speaker 9: doesn't see it. They look, she, he, she, he.
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  Speaker 7: It's like four times.
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  Speaker 5: Right, right.
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  Speaker 7: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 9: And you're sitting on edge of your seat going, someone
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  Speaker 9: noticed that you guys are meant to be together.
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  Speaker 7: Go back, go back, go back.
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  Speaker 9: Right, right. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 9: I guess I could, boom, bam, bam.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 9: And he is like ping-ponged all over the freaking streets
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  Speaker 9: of New York. Like, oh, oh, oh, my heart, my heart.
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  Speaker 8: What's funny, and that's before I ever saw that movie,
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  Speaker 8: and this was 98, so it was... pretty early into
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  Speaker 8: the run of the internet and certainly far before most
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  Speaker 8: of the social medias we have now yes i don't
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  Speaker 8: know where it made its way out if it was
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  Speaker 8: some sort of message board or something but they were
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  Speaker 8: leaking well no they were leaking it as it was
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  Speaker 8: an actual death like it was a faces of death
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  Speaker 8: scene like watch this guy get hit by two cars
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  Speaker 8: and like in that scene i don't know if it
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  Speaker 8: had already hit dvd maybe but like somebody already just
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  Speaker 8: taken that snippet It was far enough away from that
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  Speaker 8: shot that you can't see it's Brad Pitt.
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  Speaker 7: And they were just like, look at this guy, you know,
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  Speaker 7: die on camera.
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  Speaker 8: So, like, that was sort of my first introduction. Because,
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  Speaker 8: of course, everybody has to be a jerk on the internet.
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  Speaker 8: So the first comment is, like, that's from Meet Joe Black,
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  Speaker 8: you idiot. Like, you know, it's like somebody busted him
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  Speaker 8: the very first comment. So I'm just like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 8: from Meet Joe Black. So now every time I watch it,
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, that guy's not really dying.
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  Speaker 7: It's Brad Pitt.
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  Speaker 5: Brad Pitt.
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  Speaker 9: You can't trick me.
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  Speaker 16: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 9: Nothing gets past Brian.
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  Speaker 8: But the early phases of the internet there, that was interesting.
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  Speaker 12: It was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And so then from there, of course, Anthony Hopkins. Can
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  Speaker 9: we talk about him for a minute? I often get asked,
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  Speaker 9: who are my favorite actors ever, ever, ever? In the
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  Speaker 9: older sets. Anthony Hopkins is, is the, the, the older
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  Speaker 9: actor I look up to. I've never seen him give a, a,
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  Speaker 9: a slumpy performance ever. He is always on point and
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  Speaker 9: he always is engages and draws me in and gosh,
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  Speaker 9: no exception here. I like, he was just mesmerizing as
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  Speaker 9: this man turning 65 years old and, and, and facing
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  Speaker 9: his own death and his own mortality and, and trying
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  Speaker 9: to leave some kind of legacy on for his kids and,
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  Speaker 9: and doing that, that thing that, a real family dynamic
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  Speaker 9: with Marsha Gay Harden playing the older sister who was
• 16:21
  Speaker 9: the by the book and by the rules and daddy, daddy,
• 16:24
  Speaker 9: this and daddy, we have to do this and this
• 16:26
  Speaker 9: and that and Claire Farlani being the younger, more free
• 16:28
  Speaker 9: spirit one. And, of course, the parents not being allowed
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: to have a favorite, but he kind of had a favorite.
• 16:34
  Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: That happens in a lot of families.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: It happens.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 16:39
  Speaker 9: I'm a favorite myself.
• 16:40
  Speaker 16: I totally understand.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: I am not the favorite. I'm no one's favorite.
• 16:44
  Speaker 16: Who plays his son-in-law?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Tambor.
• 16:46
  Speaker 16: Tambor, yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: That is my third connection to the film. Of course,
• 16:50
  Speaker 9: we worked together on Hellboy 1 and 2.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: He was.
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: He was, oh gosh, agent. He was the head of
• 16:57
  Speaker 9: the BPRD, which is our FBI sort of division of
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: the government that we work for, and the Hellboy team.
• 17:04
  Speaker 9: So getting to know him. And I was able to
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: ask him, of course, Meet Joe Black being in my
• 17:09
  Speaker 9: top five favorite movies of all time, working on Hellboy 2,
• 17:12
  Speaker 9: I finally had the gumption to fanboy on him for
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: a minute and say, Jeffrey, please tell me, please tell me,
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: please tell me, what was it like working on Meet
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: Joe frickin' Black?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 17:22
  Speaker 9: And he said to me, he said, oh, and you
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: could tell he loved getting asked this question. So he said,
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: that was the most luxurious, lavish film I've ever worked on.
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: And he's not just the story, but the setting he
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: got to play in every day. The catering was even
• 17:40
  Speaker 9: up a notch. His co-stars, the costumes, the architecture of
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: the locations he was in. everything was just lavish and luxurious.
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: And so I was like, oh, God, that just sounds
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: dreamy as I'm getting my makeup on for the 40th
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: time that month.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Seven hours getting your makeup on.
• 18:01
  Speaker 9: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, about to go,
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: you know, kill tooth fairies and whatnot. I don't know.
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying?
• 18:06
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it was just nice to.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: We all have those days.
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I was just
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: so nice to hear that, that it was as dreamy
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: as I thought it was, you know.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: It's like existing in the world in the movie.
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: Like, they really, it's almost so to the point of
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: excess in everything they do, especially with the party concerned.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: It's like, it's kind of ridiculous.
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: But he's super uber wealthy, right? He certainly is. There's
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: no concern for cost, right? He's turning 65.
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: That's a landmark birthday.
• 18:37
  Speaker 16: Celebrate.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: Bring in build sets in your backyard.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: I don't have enough fireworks on my birthday. That's all
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: I'm going to do.
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, the fireworks were fake, I think. That was
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: one thing I look at. Do they go that full,
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: that rich, that long?
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: You'd have to.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: It happened to fall on the 4th of July or something.
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: There were other shows going on around the area. I
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: don't know. Oh, but the party. His speech at the party.
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: If I'm ever given a microphone on my 65th birthday,
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: I hope that I'm half as eloquent as Anthony Hopkins.
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: I'm making a note. I have microphones. We can make
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: this happen. We can make this happen.
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: My 65th, bring microphones.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: I can do that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: You know, he blows the candle and says, I'm going
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: to tell you my wish, and his wish comes true.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:26
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: Oh, great.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Or at least it's alluded to.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: It comes true.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: Right. Yeah, I liked how he said, what did he
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: say when he blew out his candle and what his
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: wish was? The wording was so beautiful.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Each moment golden.
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: It was a short speech. It was a short speech,
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: but it was so beautifully, again, the writing. The writing
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: of this movie just grabs me so much. I wish
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: I could quote what he said there about... That.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: If he left today, it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: Would all have been so worth it or so.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: Which is the kind of thing people say.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: He's had enough.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: He's lived enough. You know, I've lived my life to
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: the fullest.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: But it's rare that they know that they're actually, you know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: unless you have a terminal disease. It's like it's rare
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: that you actually know your end point. So it is
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: for us, the audience, knowing that that's coming. Like it's
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: kind of, I guess it has that extra weight to it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: Weight to it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: Exactly.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: There's a speech.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, here's the speech. Got it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: Hang on.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Can I make it bigger?
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 20:32
  Speaker 12: Read it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: Okay. I can't do the Anthony Hopkins voice. What a
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: glorious night. Every face I see is a memory. Isn't
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: this beautiful?
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Isn't this gorgeous?
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: It may not be a perfectly perfect memory. Sometimes we
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: had our ups and downs, but we're all together in
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: your mind for a night. Isn't that beautiful? Your mind
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: for a night. That's how I feel about any guests
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: who've ever shown up at any party.
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: I've blown.
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: And I'm going to break precedent and tell you what
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: my one candle wish was. That you would have a
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: life as lucky as mine when you can wake up
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: one morning and say, I don't want anything more. That's
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: the quote I was looking for. I don't want anything more.
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: 65 years, don't they go by in a blink. Isn't
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: that a beautiful, beautiful speech?
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so I hope that I can one day wake
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: up and say I want for nothing more.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Hopkins delivers it so genuinely.
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: So genuinely. He's just got that way of, it's not
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: rehearsed or written, it's coming from his heart.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: It's super relaxed, too.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Just like his body positioning, kind of hunched forward, but
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: still looking forward, his tone, everything about it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and he actually thinks of what he's saying. Yeah,
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: he finds it within his own mind.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Desires, you know.
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: I love him. I just love him.
• 21:54
  Speaker 16: He's so convincing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Like, even, you know, as a serial killer, I would
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: have let him kill me.
• 21:58
  Speaker 16: Right, right, right, yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: Hannibal, I'm yours.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Right, exactly.
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: Now I met Anthony Hopkins as well. I told him
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: I'm connected to this movie. Because I remember the movie Hannibal,
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: which was the Science of the Limbs follow-up. I was actually.
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: In that movie.
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: Now, you don't know this. It's one of these lesser-known
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: trivia things about Dougie Jones. But, um, Gary Oldman played
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Mason Verger in Hannibal, who was the disfigured, the one
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: living victim of Hannibal's, right? Who survived an attack.
• 22:33
  Speaker 16: The pigs, right?
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: He ended up meeting his death with the pigs. But
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: he had been attacked by Hannibal prior to the movie beginning.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: And so he's kind of out for revenge. He's the one,
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: I think in Hannibal, they were trying to, position him
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: in a way to lure Hannibal out of the shadows.
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: And so anyway, Gary Oldman, it was a humongous makeup
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: to make him all disfigured. And so being a skinny
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: person that they can make me into anybody they want,
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: I was a double for him because you have a
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: star of that, that stature. You don't want to make
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: him put that makeup on every day. If it's behind,
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: if it's an over the shoulder, if it's a wide shot,
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: if it's an hand insert, They wanted to have somebody
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: just on backup. And I happened to be free and
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: unemployed that summer. So I was like, sure, I'll do it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: So again, the Creature Effects makeup people came to me
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: and said, would you, could you? And so I did.
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: And I ended up, Gary Oldman being a consummate pro
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: that he is, he didn't allow me to do anything.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: One day they wrapped him too early. And I got
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: onto the set for about 20 minutes to do a
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: big wide shot under mosquito netting in his bedroom. when
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: Julianne Moore comes in to meet him for the first time.
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: So her entrance, and then I delivered a couple lines.
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: But I was ready with dialogue and rehearsed action every
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: day in case Gary didn't want to do something. But
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: he hated having me around because he didn't like having
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: a double. He seems pretty.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: Amazing and dedicated.
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he wanted to own his part, which I do
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: not blame him for. I had a lovely vacation in Asheville,
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: North Carolina.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that where it was filmed?
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: At the Biltmore Estate. That's where the Mason Verger house was,
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: was the Biltmore Estate. So it was like a tourist landmark.
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: And that's where I was for three weeks. Not bad.
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: Not a bad gig. You know what I'm saying? Lots
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: of mansions, apparently, that you're... I love the mansion work.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: My motif.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: That's good.
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: So meeting Anthony, just briefly on that, I didn't really
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: have interaction with him, but he was just delightful. So, again,
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: Meet Joe Black has all kinds of like, aw, aw, aw, aw,
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: in it for me.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: These are all my friends.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: People I've worked with, I know, I know, I know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: So we haven't really addressed the entrance.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: Of death or Brad or whatever he becomes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: So I don't know that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: How does that, because to me that seems like such
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: an odd for this type of film and for this
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: like level of like money that they were throwing at
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: the screen and like probably going for a relatively mainstream audience.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: This always seemed like a really odd turn to throw. Granted,
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: it's the premise they build the whole movie around, but
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: I'm like, it just seems very strange for, for the,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: type of movie that they end up making by the
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: end of it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: Well, you know, apparently this was a sort of a
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: remake of an old movie called Death Takes a Holiday.
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: And I never did see Death Takes a Holiday, so
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: I wish I had so I could talk intelligently about it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: So I think the story was out there already. And
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: I thought, again, much like Somewhere in Time, where it
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: was this sicky-sweet romantic movie with a science fiction element
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: of time travel in it, This is also a significant
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: romantic movie with an element of fantastical. The Grim Reaper
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: is like taking on human form to experience what humans
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: go through. He's been working with the people for a
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: long time. Now he wants to know what they feel like.
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: I don't really get them, but I take them.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: Exactly. But I don't get them.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: Now he wants to get them. And I think that's
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: a rather charming premise of a dastardly character, to want
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: to see what we see, do what we do, feel
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: what we feel. And he gets to do all that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: And again, like you said, I would pick Brad Pitt
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: to do that through too. You'd get the best of everything,
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: wouldn't you?
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Especially at that point.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: 98 Brad Pitt especially.
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: 98 Brad Pitt was... That's a fine looking man.
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: But I like they still work in like the... scene
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: where he shows up in the library is super creepy.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: Like, when he's just behind the translucent, like, you just
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: see the image, I'm like, that's really creepy. Again, for
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: a movie that's not really creepy, like, that moment's pretty creepy.
• 26:53
  Speaker 14: The great Bill Parrish at a loss for words. The
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: man from whose lips fall rapture and passion and obsession.
• 27:01
  Speaker 14: All those admonitions about being deliriously happy. What there is
• 27:05
  Speaker 14: no sense living your life without. All the sparks and
• 27:08
  Speaker 14: energy you give off, the rosy advice you dispense in
• 27:11
  Speaker 14: round pear-shaped tones.
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: What the hell is this?
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: Just think of millenniums multiplied by eons, compounded by time
• 27:23
  Speaker 14: without end. I've been around that long. But it's only
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: recently that your affairs here have piqued my interest. Call
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: it boredom. The natural curiosity of me, the most lasting
• 27:37
  Speaker 14: and significant element in existence, has come to see you.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: About what?
• 27:47
  Speaker 14: I want to have a look around before I take you.
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: It had to be a bit foreboding, a bit threatening
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: in some way, because the stakes were rather high for
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: Anthony Hopkins' character. He had to have some fear built
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: into him, and he had to.
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: When you're facing your own death and he had to
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: have some reason to invite this Joe Black character into
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: the family. He was trying to save everyone and save
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: himself and give himself a couple more months so he
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: was willing to do whatever he had to. Making a
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: transition from owner of mega multimedia business, multi-billionaire guy who
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: doesn't have to answer to anybody really, Going from that
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: to now this is the guy he does have to
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: answer to. The only person he has to answer to.
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: So I think the scene had to have some creep,
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: had to have some foreboding, some darkness to it so
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: that we could see how a powerful, powerful independent man
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: like that would have to succumb to something, right? So
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: I think, yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Well, I was confused too. So Death, I'm assuming, has
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: killed all of the people who have ever been people.
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: Ever been people, right.
• 28:51
  Speaker 16: He could not think of a name. for himself.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: Isn't that precious?
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: So, yeah, when he's meeting the family, so what's your name?
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: So then Anthony Hopkins had to come in with Joe.
• 29:03
  Speaker 12: And then you got Jeffrey.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: For somebody who's.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: Been around for eons, like, he really doesn't seem to
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: get people at all. Like, even the basic, like, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: that's what I'll give credit to Brad Pitt. Like, he
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: really plays this weird, awkwardness it was like a child
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: every yeah it's childlike but at the same time it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: like painfully awkward because like everybody else is like just
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: does these things you know they walk in the room
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: they say hi but like even the way he walks
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: the way he holds his shoulders like he really did
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: kind of put a lot into just the the not
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: knowing how to position yourself and how to interact with
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: people at.
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: All without overdoing it yeah The peanut butter sequence.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: The peanut butter sequence.
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: We talk about the peanut butter sequence. Death loves peanut butter.
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: I love peanut butter.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: The noise that he makes when he first... It's like,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: it is such like a human noise of him getting
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: used to this vessel that he's now occupying.
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: Yes, right. There's paste like clogging the top of his mouth.
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: What does he do?
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Why would people eat it? Oh, wait. Like it kicks in.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: Okay, okay.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: I love the innocence of going down to the servant's
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: quarters to find this out too. They all were like, yes, sir,
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: may we help you? And he didn't understand that like...
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: The hierarchy of the household. This was an odd visit.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: These were just people.
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: More of those weird people. I had to learn from
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: them too. What's this brown thing you're spreading on bread?
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: I'd like a spoonful, thank you.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Charming.
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: I found myself smiling really big when I was watching
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: that scene in particular because it was just so... in
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: the innocence the childlike quality of it was you.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: Know I think it may help because it's in this
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: world because I was thinking that like if everyone very
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: pleasantly indulges his awkwardness that like it again especially the
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: servants but again they're not really like as weirded out
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: as they probably would be in the room like who
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: is this guy but the servants have but even at
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: the table like the dinner table with the exception of
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: Drew who very quickly starts to dislike him But.
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: Everybody else is just so, like Jeffrey Denver is just
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: so willing.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: To go along with this.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: Joel, that's a nice name. Yeah, he's just so, yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 16: I love that name.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: I love that name. Everybody's just so happy to see him. Like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I figure like in the real world,
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: people would be like, who is this guy? Why is
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: he at our dinner table?
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: Like, he just, they're very willing to accept him for
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: as odd as he is.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: He's very handsome.
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: That helps, too.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: Maybe that's why it doesn't sit well.
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: Doors would open for me, too, if I looked like that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: I'm just going to say it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: No wonder this doesn't make sense. I'm not Brad Pitt.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: I have doors open all the time for Brad Pitt.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: People just handing him spoons of peanut.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: Butter everywhere he goes.
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: Right, exactly. I did like the Drew character. I can't
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: remember the actor's name now who played him.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Weber?
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: Weber.
• 31:46
  Speaker 16: He's always like the evil.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's always that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: Tom Huber.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Is that right? Okay.
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: Wasn't he like hateable? Yeah. Just that smarmy, slimy.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: Even in the beginning. Yeah, before you knew you needed
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: to hate him. You're just like, I don't like this guy.
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: Right, a little bit too full of himself on the phone,
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: working business deals, yada, yada, yada.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Kissing her and not really even paying attention.
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, not meaning it. Yeah, yeah. And seeing him get
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: his comeuppance at the end was lovely.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Lovely.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Lovely.
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: I feel like they just shoehorned that in.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: The rest of the party could have ended without that scene,
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: but you know you'd be sitting there like, yeah, but.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: That guy was still a jerk.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: I really wish Anthony Hopkins would have told him off.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: And they went, all right, we'll write that in.
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: So yeah, so he did.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: We'll write that scene in. What is it, like 245? Yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: we'll put that in.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 16: We got time.
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: It's a three-hour movie.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: We got time.
• 32:41
  Speaker 15: I would tell you that I love you tonight But
• 32:46
  Speaker 15: I know that I've got time on my.
• 32:49
  Speaker 17: Side Where you going?
• 32:52
  Speaker 15: Why you leaving so soon? Is there somewhere else that's
• 32:57
  Speaker 15: better for you? What is love if you're not here
• 33:04
  Speaker 15: with me?
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: What is love.
• 33:07
  Speaker 15: If it's not guaranteed? What is love if it just
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: stops and leaves?
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: What is love.
• 33:17
  Speaker 15: If you're not here no more?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: What is love if you're not really sure?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: It's intermission time, so how about taking a break? Get
• 33:30
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• 33:33
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• 33:58
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• 34:03
  Speaker 10: The Lux Radio Theater presents Frederick March and Florence Eldridge
• 34:07
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• 34:44
  Speaker 10: Inspired by his grim associate of the French's, He wrote
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• 34:51
  Speaker 10: was adapted. Casella's regard of death as an almost physical being,
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: not cruel, but wise beyond understanding, may be interpreted in
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: the lines he once wrote to a friend. Speaking of death,
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: he said, Occasionally we felt his highness was on a vacation.
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: Many a time he willfully overlooked a comrade, later coming
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: back to escort someone else out of a tired, bleeding world.
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: Death often seemed human to me.
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• 35:58
  Speaker 7: Hey, this is Danielle Harris.
• 36:00
  Speaker 18: So I am now maybe, quite possibly, one of the
• 36:04
  Speaker 18: newest members of Movie Meltdown.
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: If I can ever actually get to the movies.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: But I'll review some old 80s rom-coms for you. see
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: ya it had to be you.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: It had to be.
• 36:20
  Speaker 11: You I wandered around and finally found the somebody who.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Could make me be true.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: Could make me.
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: Be Three days have gone by, and the phantom death
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: is still a guest at the home of the Duke,
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: still enjoying his brief visit to Earth in the person
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: of Prince Circe. Meanwhile, the world is an astounded witness
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: to a series of miracles.
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: In London.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: SS Seabrook explodes at sea, sinks within an hour, no
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: lives lost.
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: In Paris... Man jumps from Eiffel Tower in attempted suicide,
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: walks away uninjured. In Japan.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Island of Kobushima totally demolished by heaviest earthquake in history.
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: All residents are safe.
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: And so for.
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: Three days, no life is endangered, no living thing destroyed,
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: while death amuses himself. Now at conversation, now at yachting,
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: now at the gaming table of a fashionable resort, where
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: his luck amazes other players.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: It's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: enough movies.
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: All of life's riddles are answered.
• 37:38
  Speaker 17: In the movies.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: And now, on with the show.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: What is love if you're not here with me?
• 37:50
  Speaker 15: What is love if it's not guaranteed? What is love
• 37:57
  Speaker 15: if it just doesn't leave? If you're not here no more,
• 38:05
  Speaker 15: what is love?
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: If you're not.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Really sure, what is love?
• 38:12
  Speaker 15: If it's just us and ghosts.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Death Undercover is an IRS agent.
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. That was great. It was great.
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: Death and Tax?
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: I have a question about anything. Death and Tax. So,
• 38:25
  Speaker 16: Death leaves with Anthony Hopkins.
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: Over the bridge.
• 38:27
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: Very beautifully.
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, gorgeously.
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: His daughter comes running after.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: And then previous Brad Pitt returns.
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 38:36
  Speaker 16: Not Joe Black. What did they say his name?
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: Coffee Shop. Even in the credits, it lists him as
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: Guy in the Coffee Shop.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Which is kind of gorgeous, actually.
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: I like that he doesn't even get to be like
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: Joe in the real world, either.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: So he's since forgotten everything that's happened, including his very
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: traumatic death, where he skidded across.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: The pavement in the very beginning.
• 38:57
  Speaker 16: Yeah, right.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: So we're just led to believe that she now, you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: Except that this is coffee shop Brad.
• 39:04
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: She kind of figures it out.
• 39:07
  Speaker 16: She's the one who's always picking up on it quicker
• 39:10
  Speaker 16: than everybody else.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: And I think he knows what happened. It was kind
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: of like, it harkens back to the lightning striking.
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: That's what I thought of when he just.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Kind of met back up with her. It was like
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: lightning struck him and now he's here with her. It's
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: easy for me to bite on, too, because it's romantic.
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: It feels like, again, in the real world, you'd be like,
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: you'd have way more questions, but because it's in this setting,
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: he's just like, well, I don't know how I got here,
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: but you're here, and I like you.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: And yeah, let's go.
• 39:38
  Speaker 16: We're all dressed up.
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: There's fireworks going on.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: Fireworks, yeah.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: I like to think that there was, like, some deal
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: that was made with, like, shapeless death right at his death,
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: you know, whenever he got hit by the car and
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: it's like, okay, I'm going to use your body for
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: a little while to like haunt this dude.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 39:55
  Speaker 16: You're going to fall in love with his daughter.
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: Probably.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I'm just giving you a heads up. Right.
• 39:58
  Speaker 16: Is that cool? You can just stay alive after.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: And I remember like the first time going through and
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: actually watching it kind of calling. I'm like, well, if
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: he's got to bring him back, I think because that
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: first scene is so good.
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: It's so good.
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 12: Listen, could I buy you a cup of coffee?
• 40:13
  Speaker 18: Um, I, I have some patients coming in, so I
• 40:19
  Speaker 18: should probably.
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I gotta get to the apartment and get
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: off to work. I'd still like to have another cup
• 40:24
  Speaker 12: of coffee. Would you let me do that? Well, yeah, um, okay.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Deal.
• 40:42
  Speaker 12: It's kind of a pro bono job. Pro bono?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 16: Meaning doing good?
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: That's me. Going to be doing good all your life?
• 40:52
  Speaker 12: I know what you're saying. It doesn't pay so well,
• 40:53
  Speaker 12: but I like it. Eventually, it'll depend on the woman
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: I marry, I think. Maybe she'll want lots of kids,
• 41:02
  Speaker 12: a bigger house, better car. College doesn't come cheap. I
• 41:07
  Speaker 12: don't know. Well, give up what you want for the
• 41:11
  Speaker 12: woman you marry. Yeah, you know what? I would.
• 41:18
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 15: Gladly.
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: Because you make your choices, you know? So you and I,
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: if we were married... No, for example, okay? If you
• 41:28
  Speaker 12: and I were married, I would want to give you
• 41:29
  Speaker 12: what you need. That's all. I'm talking about taking care
• 41:31
  Speaker 12: of each other the best you can. What's wrong with
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: taking care of a woman? She takes care of you.
• 41:35
  Speaker 18: You'll have a hard time finding a woman like that
• 41:38
  Speaker 18: these days.
• 41:40
  Speaker 12: Shoot, you think so?
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 41:43
  Speaker 12: I don't know. Lightning could strike.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: Almost like, again, outside the realm of the real world.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: Because I'm watching this and very quickly I'm just like,
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: it's rare that strangers get this.
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: Knee deep in a real conversation.
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: Not how's the weather, not hand me the cream, but
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: like the fact that they're just like two minutes in,
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: they're just like.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: Well, if we got married, I'm just like, oh, okay,
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: this is a real thing now. So I think that
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: kind of helps it. But at the same time, I'm
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: just like, I.
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: Don't get into those kind of, with the exception of
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: this show, which again, I think is.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Why I keep doing it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: I meet people and next thing you know, we're talking
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: about life and death coming.
• 42:19
  Speaker 13: To visit you.
• 42:20
  Speaker 16: And Brad Pitt's apps.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: And Brad Pitt's super hot apps. But aside from that,
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: I think it is.
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: Because it's built so strong in that first scene that
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: you're like, well, obviously they need to be there.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: That's why you're like, turn around, turn around.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Right, right, right.
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: Hit a weird lull.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: In that middle part where i'm just like death is
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: so awkward and i'm like he doesn't have any of
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: that that pizzazz like brad pitt is just so damn likable.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: In that coffee shop right right right then i'm like why.
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: Does she fall in love yeah he's still pretty but
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: i'm just like there's no real spark to him at
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: all so i'm like i kind of question her character
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: as we get into this i'm like everything that you
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: liked about him is no longer there with the exception
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: of his pretty looks. So I'm like, everything that you
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: connected with in that coffee shop is gone. And yet
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: she still kind of falls in love with him. So
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: I'm like, what, what does that say about this? And
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: what does that say about the relationship to come?
• 43:14
  Speaker 16: When he comes back.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: And like, well, now he's got a real personality again.
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: What do I do with that? I like just being
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: able to tell him what to do and take his
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: shirt off when I want it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 16: Where's Drew?
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, really.
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: In the goodbye moments they had at the dad's 65th
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: birthday party at the end of the movie, when she's
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: face to face with, with, with Brad. And again, a gorgeous,
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: gorgeous scene of the two of them. Like whenever their
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: faces were close, it was just like, ah, ah, I
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: was just so drawn into all of it, right? Both
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: of them have these eyes that are going sparkle, sparkle, blink, blink. Oh, geez.
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: So she's staring him down and she's recounting the coffee
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: shop quotes. Like, here's what you said then. And then
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: she says, I told you you'd have a hard time
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: finding a woman like that. Well, I am that woman.
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: I am here. And so with that, so I think
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: that she had the coffee shop Brad Pitt as a
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: part of this guy. And she was trying to marry
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: the two of them together in her mind, the entire movie.
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: And so she, at the end, she's like, you're that
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: guy still.
• 44:18
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: And so that's why when, when that guy coffee shop,
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: Brad does show up again, it's immediately. And it's like,
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: then it's like how different he is now. I, okay.
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: You are back now. And so there's something. So what I,
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: here's what I loved about this whole exchange though, at
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: the end of the movie, um, was that it was
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: that the dad saying goodbye to the daughter and her
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: having an understanding that this was probably going to be it. Um,
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: The dialogue didn't ever say. The writing didn't say, here's
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: what's happening. Step A, step B, step C. And no
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: one ever said, death had over my body and now
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: I'm the other guy back again.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: Which most movies would have done. A very elaborate explanation.
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: A chalkboard would have been involved. They didn't draw diagrams.
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: They let us be a smart audience. And they let
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: us feel her feelings and they let us discover the
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: truth through those beautiful eyes of hers. That's what I liked.
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: I still give her character credit. I'm like, that's a
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: hell of a journey to go on. If you're her
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: in the real world and you have to come up with.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: This guy I know is deaf.
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: Let's review.
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: He swapped out.
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: Like, I'm just like, how could all of this click
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: in your mind make sense? And then you contain yourself
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: and continue to carry on a conversation. Because she never, like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: she can't even get words out.
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: She's piecing it together. You're watching it happen. Again, it's
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: a good performance for what she's doing.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: It's a great performance.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: But she's like, she's like, and so you're, she's just like, you're.
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: And they're like, so they never say it. But I'm like, okay, Sherlock. Like, damn.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: You piece together a lot of improbable things.
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: Yes, she did.
• 45:57
  Speaker 16: Wrong line of work. She should be a detective, actually.
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, this doctor thing, you need to put that
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: on the back burner. Start solving crimes or something.
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: At the end of this heavy emotion that would send
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: anybody to their bedroom crying, she grabs his hand and
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: they walk down to the dock to watch more fireworks
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: and roll credits. Like, wow. I thought, what a strong
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: character of a woman she is.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: She really was. And I was going to say that. Like,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the character of Susan was a really difficult role for
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Claire to pull off. But she did it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: I think that's what makes it work. Because I feel
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: like Jo doesn't have much personality. So if she also
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: would have been kind of lame, like, it would have
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: fallen apart. But she's so, like, kind of, you like
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: her as a character and wish she was in the
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: real world. And so you want good things for her.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: So yeah, you're just kind of like, okay, I really
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: hope that other Brad Pitt comes back. You kind of,
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: they're hoping, you know that's where it's got to go, right?
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: Or they're just mean.
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: Right, right, right.
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I think you kind of want.
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: Her to do well in this story and in life.
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I do.
• 47:01
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 47:01
  Speaker 16: Sequel, all right, sequel.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Sequel, yeah.
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: Met Joe Black.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: Meteor Joe Black? He's put on some weight these days.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: He doesn't have those abs anymore.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: In the sequel, death will be a woman.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 16: You get to see more of that deal that they made.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: You just get thrashed in NYC rush hour.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Right, right.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Love it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 16: I'll write it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: Done.
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: You can do this.
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: Get this ghost yeah get your creative friends together.
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: I guess the closest they get i do yeah i
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: forgot they do remember they refer at some point to
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: the evil spirit that's with the older lady which okay
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: i kind of want to call out that scene in
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: the hospital i really like their relationship i like that
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: death shows up and finds a friend sort of and
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: like he does have someone else to go sit spend
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: time with and visit.
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah what is up with that accent Oh, what? Was
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: she Jamaican or something?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: The only flowers I want to see is the ones
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: over my peaceful self resting in the dirt.
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: Rotten.
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: It's like if he was speaking like her like it'd
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: be kind of cool if like she was from another
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: country and he just went much like Santa Claus.
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: Death knows the languages.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Of all children.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: It's true.
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: It's kind of cool if he just like slipped right
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: into it. But I guess they didn't want to pay
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: somebody to put text on the screen or something like
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: so it's weird that like he just takes on a
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: really strong accent.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: I don't know. That was very weird to me.
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: He was relating to her on her level. I guess.
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: But it also kind.
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: Of slides into Irish every once in a while. Like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: you're not on the devil's own. Don't be getting mixed up.
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: Harrison Ford's nowhere near.
• 48:46
  Speaker 16: Sliding in and out.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: Hold on a minute.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: Also, whenever he's speaking to Anthony Hopkins earlier, I thought
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: it was Anthony Hopkins. voice talking to himself because it
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: had like a slight.
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: Oh the introduction scene where he's behind the glass i feel.
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: Like it kind of like all of his in his
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: head when he's having the chest pains right anthony hopkins.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Right right right it's that.
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: Like crossover where it's like death is everyone you know
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: death is anthony hopkins right the voice of whoever he
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: wants to be.
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: He takes on whatever form he needs to. He steps
• 49:16
  Speaker 9: out looking like Brad Pitt and into the light and
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: that's when he took Brad's voice on again. I like
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: that element of it. I did, I did, I did.
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: But I like the little dynamic that they had otherwise
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: with the older lady. Again, like kids and animals. This
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: old sick lady could see who he was immediately.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: She's like, oh, don't put me over there by him.
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: She sees death standing there in the hospital like that's
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: kind of.
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: Creepy it wasn't nice they made friends before it was.
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: Over yeah and then by the end he kept coming
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: around and he's like i'm not really here for you
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: you know i'm just coming to visit the doctor the
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: pretty doctor lady you know so yeah it's i like
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: that little dynamic that's built there question the accent but
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: i like.
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: The relationship but you know a movie like this does
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: make us think about our mortality though and uh you
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: know and i um my uh two years ago actually
• 50:03
  Speaker 9: shortly after we did our podcast my mother passed away.
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: I can remember seeing that.
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: At age 84. And, you know, we got the news
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: that she had liver cancer that was terminal, and they
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: gave her about three months. So we had this prognosis
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: and a time frame. With that, my mother at that age,
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: you know, I'm feeling devastated. But, of course, you know,
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: when your parents get to a certain age, you start
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: thinking about this anyway. We're not going to have them forever.
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: But she grabbed my hand one day and said, you know,
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: I have lived a very full, rich life, a good life.
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: And so she said, I'm really looking forward to what's
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: coming ahead. She didn't shed one tear throughout this entire process. Uh,
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: she said, uh, I'm looking forward to what's coming ahead.
• 50:43
  Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to seeing your father again, who had
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: passed away in 1979. I'm looking forward to, uh, she,
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: she was widowed three. She said, I put it, but
• 50:51
  Speaker 9: this good life includes three marriages and no divorces having
• 50:54
  Speaker 9: four boys and no jail time. She, I mean, you know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: she did okay.
• 50:57
  Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying?
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: And so you're not out of the woods yet, but
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: all right. Up until then, she's gone now.
• 51:02
  Speaker 9: So you'll never see that.
• 51:03
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: But, uh, Depends on what happens here at this Hilton.
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: We're on the floor right now.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: It depends on what the cleanup fee is in this room.
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: But no, but I think that was, if I could,
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: and you know, she was a very devout Christian woman
• 51:24
  Speaker 9: and she said, I'm looking forward to meeting this Jesus
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: I've been singing about in church for 84 years. If
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: I can leave the earth with that kind of grace
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: and that kind of dignity and that kind of, of
• 51:34
  Speaker 9: hands in the air going, yeah, about the finish line.
• 51:37
  Speaker 9: That's the way I want to go one day, you know?
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: And I think that in meet Joe black is kind
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: of a, with that speech we just read that Anthony
• 51:43
  Speaker 9: Hopkins gives knowing that his death is, is eminent. Um, uh,
• 51:47
  Speaker 9: I think that he, he also found that grace and that, that, uh,
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: that dignified way to, to sum up the life, the
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: good life you've had and to move on, you know?
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: And I think even not so much, it doesn't have
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: to be the end of the year, because I kept
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: watching the earlier scenes with Anthony Hopkins, and he's just
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: talking about.
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: Getting older and the decisions he's made.
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: And it's like, I'm sitting here with all the things
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: we do and constantly questioning, well, is this a good idea?
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: So you're kind of watching him look back on these
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: 65 years of all these decisions made and Most of them,
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: I guess, turned out pretty right for him.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: He seems like he's doing all right. He did okay.
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: But you still, like, you always question that.
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: Like, even as successful as he was, you know, you
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: start to look back and be like, is that, am
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: I leaving a legacy that I want behind?
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: Is, you know, this decision that I've made that's led
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: me here what I should have done? So I don't know.
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: I was kind of taking a lot from that, too, that, like,
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: we always kind of question those things. Even if we
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: don't know, we've got an end date, which we all
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: kind of do.
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: We don't know when.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: Right, right, right, right.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: He does handle it gracefully. And that's because I think
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the movie addresses this really well is he relinquishes fear.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: And that's the best part about it is, you know,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: like your mother, she had no fear.
• 53:01
  Speaker 13: No fear.
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: And that's how you should cross the finish line.
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: He went through the whole movie kind of like that because...
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: If there's ever, this is.
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: Why you're like, okay, this is why you hire Anthony
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: Hopkins in this role.
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: If there's ever a.
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: Man who can threaten the Grim Reaper, and you buy that.
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: Scene, you're like, oh, he's pissed. You're just like, this
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: is not, okay, Brad, calm down.
• 53:23
  Speaker 16: I saw you kiss Susan.
• 53:25
  Speaker 12: Yes, I saw you see me.
• 53:27
  Speaker 14: Well, you're at the wrong place at the wrong time
• 53:29
  Speaker 14: with the wrong woman.
• 53:30
  Speaker 12: I'll be the judge of that.
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: I'm her father.
• 53:33
  Speaker 12: With all due respect, Bill, I'm not asking your permission.
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: For your goddamn right, sir!
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: It's funny and that was another thing I thought as
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: I'm watching this I'm like death or not you are
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: always gonna get that not with my daughter tone no
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: matter what he's always gonna be like what are your
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: intentions with my daughter death because.
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: I don't like where this is going like that does
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: not change.
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: Regardless of the supernatural circumstances I'm like he's still gonna
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: be like uh I just saw that get out of my.
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: House right and if you were Claire Forlani wouldn't you
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: want to have an Anthony Hopkins protective daddy like that.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: Definitely I would She needs one.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, she does.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: She does.
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: Somebody needs to take care of her.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Well, look at her.
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: She'd have the wolves after all every day. Yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: Great. Of course.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: She looks like that.
• 54:20
  Speaker 16: Rough life. Are those wolves in air quotes? Yeah.
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: The other thing I wanted to go into is Martin breast.
• 54:27
  Speaker 10: Hmm.
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: And this is one of the few times I'll say,
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: because I said don't read IMDb, because the comments are horrible.
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: Oh, are they really?
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: Really? I will tell you not to go there.
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: Okay, I will not go there.
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: You've got way too many projects to have your feelings hurt.
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: But they're usually horrible, horrible people.
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: No offense if you're one of those people. The webinar
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: is full of horrible people.
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: But everyone that listens to our show is cool, so
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: it's okay. They would never say these things.
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: And thank you for being cool.
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: But the ones I didn't, like I didn't go through,
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: I didn't read all that nonsense, but the very first
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: one that came up when you got to Martin Brez's page,
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: just the headline said, This guy's resume baffles me. And
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: I was like, all right, I'm kind of on board.
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: I kind of agree.
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: What else does his resume include?
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: Because I remember, and again, I think I've always connected
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: the name first with Beverly Hills Cop, which again, I'm
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: kind of like, of those types of movies, it's kind
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: of amazing. And that's a script that was headed for
• 55:21
  Speaker 8: Stallone at one point. And he took it and retooled
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: it and brought in Eddie Murphy and.
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: Brought us the best version of Eddie Murphy.
• 55:28
  Speaker 8: Because you see him turn in not so amazing roles later,
• 55:31
  Speaker 8: but that one is on the money. And I figured
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: that had to do a lot with him directing it.
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: And then it's followed up by Midnight Run, which I
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: still think is one of.
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: The best movies ever.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: That's in my top 10.
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: Buddy movie, action movie, whatever you want to call it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: It's just a great movie.
• 55:49
  Speaker 16: But then.
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: Sin of a Woman. Pretty beloved. People love that performance.
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they do.
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: It's questionable. Then he follows that up with Meet Joe Black.
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: Then Geely.
• 56:03
  Speaker 14: Oh, okay.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Forgot that part.
• 56:08
  Speaker 16: So far so good.
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: I'm just like everything else. Even going back, I forgot
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: he's going in style too. That was kind of his
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: first big breakout with George Burns and Art Carney and
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: Them kind of pulling a heist.
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: That was kind of his first big movie.
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: The only one before that, this was interesting. It's a
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: full-length feature film. I thought maybe it was a short.
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: It's called Hot Tomorrows. But the way the breakdown is.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: I've had a few of those.
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: The breakdown in IMDb says that this is a young
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: man who has a life-size Grim Reaper in his apartment.
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: So obviously he has a weird little deep-seated thing that
• 56:48
  Speaker 8: it takes him like a couple of decades to come
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: back around and be like, no, I want to do
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: a whole movie about death. So obviously that's playing on
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: his mind.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: But yeah, it's like.
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: And the really weird thing is he didn't write a
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: lot of those in the middle there.
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: He didn't write Meet Joe Black. but he wrote Geely.
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: So I don't know what to do with any of that.
• 57:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, who did write Mewtwo? Do we have a
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: writer name for that?
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: There are four writers.
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a couple, yeah.
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: And he didn't write Midnight Run, which is an awesome screenplay.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Did Bresson not do Legend of the Fall?
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Did I make that up in my head?
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: I think you made that up.
• 57:25
  Speaker 8: He didn't do a ton, but he knocked out some
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: pretty solid movies. And then I guess that, like, took
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: him out of the game like he has not directed
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: since jeannie it killed his career and from what i've
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: heard that was it was kind of the one too
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: because i think meet joe black didn't successfully make money
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: financially yeah in the theaters i think it didn't do
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: well so i think that kind of hurt him and
• 57:47
  Speaker 8: then he followed that up with jeannie which became a
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: punch line in hollywood like it really it was the
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: the joke of a couple of years there now it's
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: almost so dated it It's starting to fade, but anybody
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: who knows still knows.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: I still think about Ben Affleck's career. For me, that
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: was like the typical pinnacle.
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: It was sort of all the things coming together to
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: go wrong at the same time. Their relationship was going
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: on and got caught up in the middle.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: Of this acting role.
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: Audiences are very unforgiving when a real-life couple wants to
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: play a couple on film. It usually doesn't go well.
• 58:22
  Speaker 9: It usually doesn't go well.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: I occasionally like those films.
• 58:26
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: The writers, though, one of them is Bo Goldman, who
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: wrote One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Scent of a Woman,
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: Shoot the Moon, and Meet Joe Blacker.
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: Oh, okay. Interesting.
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: Cool.
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: And then the other major writing credit goes to Kevin Wade.
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: Kevin Wade. Okay.
• 58:47
  Speaker 13: So I don't know.
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: I just thought that was an interesting career as a
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: director and writer. I wonder if it was financing. After
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: those two in a row, nobody wanted to give him
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: money to do a big movie anymore, so he just
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: gave up.
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: I've heard many producers say that Hollywood is not in
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: the business of making art. They're in the business of
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: making money. And if you don't, then this is what happens, unfortunately.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: And in the town that, you know, what's the last
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: thing you did?
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: Entire resume.
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: It's your entire resume. Always go to your last project, right? So,
• 59:18
  Speaker 9: if Gigli's it... That's hard.
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: It's hard to overcome.
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: So, I don't know. The only other one I was
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: going to throw out was.
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: As you said, you had more than enough time for
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: this movie and more.
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: I did.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 59:33
  Speaker 9: I feel like it's paced very oddly.
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: It was three hours a lot for you.
• 59:37
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: You got a little yawny in that alert?
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: Not really.
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: It's just like there was, because that's the thing. I
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: started thinking like, okay, now I'm the editor. How do
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: you take any of this out and make it work?
• 59:46
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: And I really didn't come up with any.
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: Like there's not really other than yelling at the jerk guy,
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: which again, you could probably take that out and the
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: movie would go on just fine.
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: But all the other relationship stuff needs to be there.
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: Again, I think that was just for the audience to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: fist pump for a second.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you told that jerk.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, get the bad guy.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: We needed a bad guy. That was pretty much all
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: we had. You can't make death the bad guy.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 16: Right, right, right.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: Because he's too pretty.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: He's our semi-hero, kind of. And he's pretty. So, I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: don't know. Were there pacing issues with anyone?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: What do you puppies think? What do you puppies think?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Just with the exchanges at certain parts, I had trouble...
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: keeping up with, you know, Anthony Hopkins when he first sees,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: you know, Joe Black come in, they have this exchange
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: where he goes, your death is three or four beats.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: And then they do this eye exchange and he goes, yes.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Are you really? Some more beats.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 16: You're doing this pretty good, actually.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: So we could have shaved an hour off right there.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: But it's like, that's what the movie's built on. That's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: what makes me buy it, really.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: Right, right.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: You know, the acting really comes through.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: It does.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: These facial expressions. And that's what makes the movie magical.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And that's where the art is in it. And, you know,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: pacing set aside, I loved it. It's hard to say, like,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: you know, earlier when I met up with Brian at
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the coffee shop, I was like, you know, I forgot
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: about the pacing of this movie because the last time
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I saw it, I was 11, 12 years old and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 9: Well, it's not an 11-year-old's movie, is it?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: No, it's really not.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: Not so much.
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  Speaker 1: But then going back and seeing it again, you know,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: you do get a greater appreciation for film when you're
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: able to, like, sit on the floor of the Hilton
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Head and break it down.
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  Speaker 9: Break it down.
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  Speaker 1: And have a conversation.
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  Speaker 5: Break it down.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Have a real conversation about it.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I think the relationship part is like that too. It's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 8: like because he's so awkward, every step takes 10 times
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: longer for– because she would just normally go into like
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: you would with a normal guy and then he'd just
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: look at her.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: Funny and she'd be like, okay, what do I do now?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: So each step took like three more steps.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: Of her going– how do I deal with this weird guy?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: So I think it did slow down.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: It's like, let's go to the indoor pool.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: How do I get him to take these clothes off?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: So yeah, it took, it took a while, I think
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: for the relationship to build too, because there's all these
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: dead ends of him just like kind of staring at
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: her with that look on his face, like a dog
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: that heard a funny noise. And like, he's like, I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: don't know what to do with humans and love.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 16: I don't have a problem with the pacing. Um, very
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 16: much at all.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: I actually don't, especially with movies that have like a
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: very successful narrative structure. So I read a couple of
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: the screenwriting books by Blake Snyder and he's very big
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: on commercial filmmaking and having this like pretty, you know,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: methodical way of making the story work. And this was
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: fit right into it perfectly. Actually every, ever since reading
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: this Blake Snyder, the Blake Snyder beat sheet, I've, yeah,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: I apply it to pretty much every movie in this
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: had like the A story, Anthony Hopkins, B story, death,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: and his daughter and it like plays out where they
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: overlap and like the bad guy gets what's coming to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: him you know and yeah it was because it was
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: so well composed i feel like the pacing didn't matter
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 9: I'm with you on this i'm totally with you on
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: that it definitely makes it work and that's what i
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: said it's like i don't know how to adjust any
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 9: of that like i guess it needed to be three
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: hours because it really like you can't take any piece.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: Of that out and still not it wouldn't work then
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: without any of that kind of building up to the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: end there. But that party scene, because it's all conversation
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: and conversation, it's got to be like 35 minutes of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: the end.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: Oh, the party's long.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: The party was like a long scene that I'm like,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: everybody's going to be home soon.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 7: This party's going to be over.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: Son's coming up. Wrap it up.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 16: We've got to fire some fireworks.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: Come on, hurry this up.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: I think it was like 45 just at the end
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: of the dinner scene.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: So they had like what, three days of time take
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: place between that and the final party?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 16: Or two or something.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the only other concern.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 8: Other than that, it's so well put together and performances
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: are so impressive.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: So impressive, yeah.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: The musical score, too. That's why, you know, when you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: look back at the pacing, you're like, well, it was
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: like this beautiful musical score that could only have that pacing.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Like, it just builds up this whole diegesis on the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: screen that as an audience member you get sucked into
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: because it's romantic and it's gorgeous. Sets are beautiful.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 16: How about the fireworks?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: That vinyl huge orchestral composition at the end. Obviously fireworks
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: are a good way to end a movie. You need
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: the drums and the orchestra.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 16: Everyone's all there. Emotions, emotions, go.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: Feel.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 9: Beat them into me.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: So with that bombastic theme, is that our rounding out
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: of this?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 7: Is there anything else you need to?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 12: I feel good.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: I feel like we hashed this one out.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: I feel good about it.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: I think we pieced it together, guys.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 9: I do, I do, I do.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: Right here on the floor. We solved the mystery like
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: Claire Foran.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 9: This is my third episode with you, and we've done
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 9: them all on the floor now, so this makes me
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: very happy.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: You're motifing.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 9: I'm motifing right over here. Okay.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: Well, if nothing else, do you want to tell people
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: where to find you at the old Doug Jones sex-periment?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: I'm referencing your previous story.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: That was a horrible story. My official website, which, you know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 9: Webmaster Helen, she had to take a little break from
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 9: maintaining the site, so it needs some updating. So there's
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: some old information. TheDougJonesExperience.com is not up to date. the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 9: more current information you'll find is in my social media
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: right now. And that would be if you do a
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: Doug Jones search on Facebook, you'll find my personal page,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: which I cannot add any more friends. I'm at the 5,000
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: friend limit.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: Facebook needs to figure that out.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: Something out. But there's a follow button there if you
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 9: want to follow those posts. But they are the same
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: ones I put on my like professional page. So you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: can hit the like button there. You'll know it's me
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 9: because I've got the blue verified badge there. Then you
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 9: can also find me on the Instagram and the Twitter
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: as actordougjones. on either one. They both have a blue
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 9: verified checkmark. You'll know it's me. Then let's see. We're
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: also on the Tumblr. Actor Doug Jones will get you there.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: And let's see. Wait, there's more LinkedIn. Ah, yeah. People
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: use that? All around the social media.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they do.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't have if I didn't keep getting invitations to it.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 9: I know. Right? That's why we all join.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 16: Okay, fine.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 9: Fine, I'll do it. Yeah, yeah. Snapchat? snap that's the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: one i don't get i think that's for whores you.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 19: Know that's why we that's why why do i why
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 19: would i want to post something that disappears in 15
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 19: seconds why do i what yeah okay.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: Creative right right it was pictures of shiny ass then.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: Yes okay then i get it i got it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: So at my age, I really don't need that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 11: Vines?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: Are you vining?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 9: The vines are six seconds. I don't have a vine
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: account of my own, but Instagram is 15 seconds. You
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 9: can do more of the video there. I'm just saying.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 9: And there's this other new platform.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: What's it called?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 9: It's the live streaming video.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 16: Periscope?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 9: Periscope. Yeah. I don't know much about it. Have you
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: heard of this?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of people posting links already. I'm like,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: because we need one more.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah. But it's an interesting idea for events. It's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: like posting videos, but they're live. They're happening right now.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: But you can also do it just like streaming. Like
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 8: you can go to an event and just have it
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: streaming your table.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 16: All day long.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 8: Like if you want to sit at home watching five
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: hours of you sign autographs.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure you can do that. I could do that. Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: Which I don't, again.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: I think we're sometimes using these wrong.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: Is this supposed to be like at a concert, like
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: you're above the crowd looking.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 16: Around like a.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there we go.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: So yeah, we have too many social medias. Some of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 7: them we're using wrong.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 9: Sure, sure, sure.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 16: Snapchat we're using correct.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, not Snapchat. I'm talking about some of the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 7: other ones, but that one's fine.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: Right, right, right, right, right, right.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 9: Oh, you precious kids.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: Well, I guess we can.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: Well, at least stop recording and get down to business
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: on this rug.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: Teasing all episode long.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: Teasery. I know. Should we end with a hymn and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: take up a collection or what should we do?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 7: I don't know. Fire up. I want to know what
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: love is.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: By the end of this, I just kept hearing that going,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: that's the closing track.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: That's what Joe wants to know.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: Death just wants to know what love is, man.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: I want you to show me.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: So it's, yeah, let's, let's rock out with some foreigner
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 8: and get.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: Out of here.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 9: Well, thank you so much for having me again. the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: fact that you've had me back for a third time.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: Now you're part of the family that's i feel very.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: Family like yeah thank you we've adopted you and you
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: you're on the show as often as you would.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 9: Like yo it's a deal then every time i come
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 9: back to this region you somehow know about it, and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 9: so we end up doing this.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: Psychic like that.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: That's that hands-on thing I do.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: Yes, it's the impact.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: Some people don't like it at conventions when I'm doing
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: that hands-on thing.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Periscope, then you'll find.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, if you periscope me.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 7: There's only a few restraining orders.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 9: That's right, that's right. I'll Snapchat you when I'm going
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 9: to be here again.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: There we go. Now we're making this work. All right, then.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 7: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 11: I've got to take a little time A little time
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 11: to think things over I better read between the lines
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 11: In case I need it when I'm older Oh Now
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 11: this mountain I must climb Feels like the world upon
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 11: my shoulder Through.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 17: The clouds I see love shine It keeps.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 12: Me warm as life grows colder.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 18: In my life, there's been heartache and pain. I don't
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 18: know if I can face it again.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: Can't stop now.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I've traveled so far to change this lonely life. I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: want to know what love is. I want you to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: show me. I want to feel what love is.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: I know you can show.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 11: Gonna take a little time, a little time to look
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 11: around me. I've got nowhere left to hide. It looks
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 11: like love has finally found me.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 17: There's been heartache and pain I don't know if I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 17: can face it again I can't stop now.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I've traveled so far To change this lonely life I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: wanna know what love is I want you to show
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: me I want to feel what love is I know
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: you can show me I want to know what love
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: is I want you to show me I want to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: feel what love is. And I know, I know you
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: can't show me. Let's talk about love. You just can't hide.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: I know you can show me. I want to know
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: what love is. Let's talk about love. I know you
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: can show me. I want to feel it. I want
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: to feel what I want to feel too. Okay, okay, okay.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 16: You're going to star in one of our movies soon enough.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: Yes, I am.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 16: I can feel it coming.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 9: Especially if it ends up on the Snapchat.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: That's a very short film.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 16: It disappears in 15 seconds.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll let you keep the costume, but for that one.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 9: Okay, thank you.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 16: Thank you.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 12: Yes, I win.
• 1:14:44
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  Speaker 10: Talk hard!