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Bastianini’s Bold Move & The MotoGP Title Fight Heats Up! Emilia Romagna GP: MotoGP Pit Talk · Pit Talk

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  Speaker 1: Controversy and crashes could be two ways to describe the
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  Speaker 1: Amelia Ramana Grand Prix. And while for some it's a
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  Speaker 1: weekend to forget, there's one writer who has everybody in
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  Speaker 1: Murdo GP talking right now. But I'm your host, Rinita Vmulan,
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  Speaker 1: and adjoining me is the man who's fast with Emoto
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  Speaker 1: GP fax than Peggo Vanyaya on his home turf. It's
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  Speaker 1: the walking Moto GP Encyclopedia himself, Matt Clayton. Matt, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we just have to start this pod off
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  Speaker 1: by talking about that last lap barge between Annea Bashanini
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  Speaker 1: on Joge Martin, social media, news websites. Everyone has just
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  Speaker 1: divided on their opinion, but I want to know what's
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  Speaker 1: your take on that move?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Reneeda, it certainly was the talking point other than
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  Speaker 2: Banyay crashing out, which I'm sure we'll get to. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure being compared to pick Out when he's just
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  Speaker 2: crashed out of a racist great thing, But we'll come
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  Speaker 2: back to that. But yeah, look, Bashianini and Martin and
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  Speaker 2: the last lap at Massano on Sunday certainly very controversial.
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  Speaker 2: It certainly enlivened what was a tense but not super
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  Speaker 2: exciting race. But I don't know about you, but the
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  Speaker 2: decision to not even investigate it from the stewards, let
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  Speaker 2: alone hand down any sort of penalty. The wider thing
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  Speaker 2: for me here is, well, there's six races to go
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  Speaker 2: this season, and if this is considered to be acceptable,
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  Speaker 2: and this is considered to be play on, it kind
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  Speaker 2: of sets out the rules for the last six races,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it. Because I don't think we'll be having this
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  Speaker 2: conversation for the last time today. I think it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: much set up how these last six races all will go.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, controversy, I reckon we'll be seeing that where
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  Speaker 2: a capital see plenty of times between now and Valencia.
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  Speaker 1: Well do you think that they didn't investigate it purely
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  Speaker 1: because Juee Martin just rolled out of it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: waved his hands in the air, did everything and then
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  Speaker 1: rolled back. If he had stayed, I guess on the pace,
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  Speaker 1: even though he did run off track, do you think
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  Speaker 1: there might have been a bit more there.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it, Because at the end he rolled
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  Speaker 2: out so much on that final lap that he finished
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  Speaker 2: five seconds behind Bastinini is like five point one or something.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine if the fudor or if Motor GP had said, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a five second penalty for Bastiditi, so therefore he
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  Speaker 2: ends up winning by like six tenths of a second
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  Speaker 2: or something. But that would have been interesting.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'd I like to see races decided, not in the
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  Speaker 2: steward's room. You want them decided on track. But there
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  Speaker 2: seems to be two sets of rules here, and that
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of do anything on the first lap
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  Speaker 2: of a RaSE, you can kind of do anything on
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  Speaker 2: the last lap of a race. I'm also wondering, say
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  Speaker 2: that incident happens with two laps to go, three laps
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  Speaker 2: to go, ten laps to go, is it adjudicated differently
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  Speaker 2: because it's the final lap of a race and nobody
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  Speaker 2: wants to see a race decided in a steward's room,
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  Speaker 2: and that being the case, does that now change tactically
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  Speaker 2: how you approach trying to win a race in the
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  Speaker 2: last lap, Because if you're second on the last lap
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  Speaker 2: and it's close, why would you not make a move
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  Speaker 2: like Bastianini made, Because this is good chance that it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be adjudicated differently on the last lap that
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  Speaker 2: it would be any other lab So why not go
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  Speaker 2: for it. There seems to be two separate sets of
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  Speaker 2: rules here. No one wants to see races decided after
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  Speaker 2: the fact with penalties and what have you. But I
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  Speaker 2: can't help but think if this had happened two laps earlier,
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  Speaker 2: ten laps earlier, second lap of the race, whether we're
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  Speaker 2: having a very very different conversation here. But they've now
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  Speaker 2: said a precedent. I hope it doesn't come back to
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  Speaker 2: bite somebody in these last six races, because the last
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  Speaker 2: thing we want to see is a championship decided by
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  Speaker 2: something contentious. We want excitement, We want it to be thrilling,
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  Speaker 2: we want it to be tense. We don't want it
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  Speaker 2: to be decided at the whim of whether the stewards
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  Speaker 2: decide whether it should be penalized or not.
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  Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I think for what would
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  Speaker 1: be maybe classed as a boring race, apart from the
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  Speaker 1: crashes that will get too shortly, I think that he
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  Speaker 1: definitely made things a little bit more exciting. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: if we go back to Aragon, there was that crash
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  Speaker 1: between Alex Marquez and Pecubaak. It was very dangerous crash
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  Speaker 1: and obviously Pecker was injured from it. Not what we're after,
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  Speaker 1: But was there no decision made because there was no
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  Speaker 1: I guess crash from it. It just seems like in
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  Speaker 1: the stewards of what goes through their mind sometimes, but
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  Speaker 1: it almost feels like they play it depending on who's involved.
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  Speaker 3: As well a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what was super interesting for me is
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  Speaker 2: that I was really interesting to hear what Simon Crayfar
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  Speaker 2: said about this on the coverage on the World Feed,
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  Speaker 2: because of course Simon next year is going to be
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  Speaker 2: Chief Stewards in twenty twenty five, and look like, I
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  Speaker 2: think Simon does a fantastic job. I think he has
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  Speaker 2: had several careers he's done great jobs in and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure he'll be good in his new role for next year.
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  Speaker 2: But it was interesting he said he only felt the
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  Speaker 2: best you need. He actually ran off the side of
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  Speaker 2: the track because he was looking back to see if
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  Speaker 2: Martine had actually crashed out or on. And the curious
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  Speaker 2: part to me is, you know, normally if you leave
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  Speaker 2: the track to gain an advantage or to complet to overtake,
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  Speaker 2: then it's going to be a penalty there, But Simon's
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  Speaker 2: basically saying that he only felt that an AA had
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  Speaker 2: run off the track to look back to see if
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  Speaker 2: Martin was off the bike. But he's still off the track.
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  Speaker 2: So we're now going to issue penalties or not based
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  Speaker 2: on someone's intent or we're reading the mind of the
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  Speaker 2: person that's actually done the transgression. That's interesting to me
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  Speaker 2: because look, I'm sure Anaa did look back over his
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  Speaker 2: shoulder to see whether Martin was on the ground or
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  Speaker 2: whether it was right behind him, but in doing so,
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  Speaker 2: he actually ran off the track. So by the letter
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  Speaker 2: of the law, shouldn't that be a penalty. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's arguments either way with this, but I just thought
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  Speaker 2: it was interesting to hear Simon's point of view on
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  Speaker 2: this because he's going to be in the position to
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  Speaker 2: make a decision next year. To give Simon some leeway here,
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  Speaker 2: he admitted that he's not one hundred percent on top
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  Speaker 2: of how these things are adjudged, and they look at
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  Speaker 2: different camera angles, and they have much they have many
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  Speaker 2: more tools at their disposal to make a decision than
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  Speaker 2: he does simply looking at a TV picture. But I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was pretty interesting based on what's going to
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  Speaker 2: go forward next year. But as I've said a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times now, I just think think where this sets
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  Speaker 2: us up for these final six races, given that we've
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  Speaker 2: got a championship fight that he's super super close, and
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  Speaker 2: Anaya is not out of the championship fight necessarily, But
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  Speaker 2: I get the feeling that he's going to have much
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  Speaker 2: more of a sayers to who ends up winning this
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  Speaker 2: championship because he's got the bike and he's got the
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  Speaker 2: pace on occasion to really fight with Peco and Martine upfront.
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  Speaker 2: The can of worms this may open by not making
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  Speaker 2: a decision, Yeah, could be super interesting, couldn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, some of the writers have been very vocal. One
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  Speaker 1: who I'm sure Mado GP fans are not surprised who's
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  Speaker 1: been vocal was Alisha Spargaro had.
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  Speaker 3: His shocking who would have thought?
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  Speaker 1: Who would have thought Alish would say an opinion? But
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  Speaker 1: also Mark Marquez said an opinion, and he thinks that
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  Speaker 1: there should have been a penalty handed to Anaa. There's
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  Speaker 1: been plenty of times Mark Marquez has done something very
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  Speaker 1: similar in a lot of his races, so I feel
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  Speaker 1: like for him to say that's a little bit like
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  Speaker 1: really color Mark lay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yeah. I mean two things here, Aleish.
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  Speaker 2: Alaisha's great for journey, he polarizes fans. He's great as
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  Speaker 2: a jurdo because he always has an opinion on everything
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  Speaker 2: and he's not shy and sharing that. But as soon
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  Speaker 2: as he got involved in deciding who was at fault,
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  Speaker 2: he also have to remember that literally his best friend
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  Speaker 2: in the entire paddock is Orje Martin, and he was
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  Speaker 2: hugely influential in getting Martine to come to Apulia as
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  Speaker 2: his replacement after he retires after all the decade stuff
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  Speaker 2: went down. So Alaisia's not exactly impartial when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to this. And also if there's a decision that errs
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  Speaker 2: on the side of safety or caution, Alaisia's very much
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  Speaker 2: on the let's try and make this safe, which in
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  Speaker 2: some occasions I think is absolutely correct. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: so Alaysia's opinion it was kind of hard to take
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  Speaker 2: massively seriously when it came to this incident. But I
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  Speaker 2: think the thing with Marquez was going back to what
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  Speaker 2: I'd said before, is that Bastiindi had left the track
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  Speaker 2: to complete and overtake, which was interesting, But as you
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  Speaker 2: said before, someone actually described it in the press conference
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  Speaker 2: afterwards that Bastianini had made a Mark Barques move, So
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like named after him because he's made so
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  Speaker 2: many of these on the limit overtakes in the past.
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  Speaker 2: We forget that towards the end of Mark's heyday at
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  Speaker 2: Repsol Honda, he wasn't often in fights for race wins,
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  Speaker 2: unless it was with Fabio Couatrara in twenty nineteen, he
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  Speaker 2: was often so far ahead.
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  Speaker 3: That it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: But Mark definitely has form in these sorts of situations.
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  Speaker 2: But again, it got everyone talking, and I think the
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  Speaker 2: key point you made before was it wasn't a massively
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  Speaker 2: interesting race before the last lap, and the tension had
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  Speaker 2: been building, but you knew it was building to this
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  Speaker 2: crescendo that something was going to happen on the last lap.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just as well because it wasn't a super
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  Speaker 2: exciting race up front. But when you have two races
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  Speaker 2: at the same track in a three week period and
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  Speaker 2: there's been a test in between, there's probably not a
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  Speaker 2: heap of variance going on is there up the front.
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  Speaker 2: So it's probably the race that we're always going to get.
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  Speaker 2: At least we've got a good conclusion to have something
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  Speaker 2: to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: We did, We did, but you mentioned Fabio there and
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  Speaker 1: I thought, let's have a chat about him. Because for
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  Speaker 1: me this weekend, Matt, he was my writer of the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: made it into Q two, qualified ninth and finished both
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  Speaker 1: races in seventh. I feel that there's no denying Fabio
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  Speaker 1: is still is one of the best riders on the grid.
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  Speaker 1: He's up there. He is a world champion alongside Peco
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  Speaker 1: and Mark and some of the best we've ever had
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  Speaker 1: him at OGP, But it's so hard when he's not
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  Speaker 1: on machinery that's allowing him to compete at the front.
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  Speaker 1: So when we see these small glimpses of a Yamaha,
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: it's nice to see that navy Yamaha blue in on
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  Speaker 1: the TV coverage. I feel like it's exciting and we
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: can see that there they're so close to being there.
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  Speaker 1: But talking about Fabria's ride this weekend, for me, he
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  Speaker 1: was one of the best writers.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was the star of the weekend. Quite frankly,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at what it is that he's riding,
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  Speaker 2: and the fact that he was basically a one man
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: team for most of the weekend, because Alex Rides had
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: to pull out seek he had a bad virus and
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  Speaker 2: he pulled out on Saturday, And because there's only two
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: Yamahas on the grid, you've got Fabio fighting single handed
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: again just eight to katis had four ktms and you
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  Speaker 2: know he's plowing this lone furrow for them. But his
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  Speaker 2: weekend was absolutely outstanding. He should have finished fifth in
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  Speaker 2: the Grand Prix on Sunday, but lost with the World
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  Speaker 2: TV feed because we're concentrating on what happened at the front.
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  Speaker 2: He actually ran out of fuel with two quarters to
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  Speaker 2: go on the last lap, so he got to turn
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  Speaker 2: twelve on the last lap and was in fifth place
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  Speaker 2: and the thing just coughed and basically died for the
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  Speaker 2: last two corners, So he lost nine seconds in the
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: last sector on the last lap and got overtaken by
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: Franco Borberdelli and Maverick Vidale. So he ended up finishing seventh.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: How do you finished fifth? The four bikes ahead of him, Bashanini,
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  Speaker 2: Martin Marquez and Marco Bozeki who had a rare good
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: race for him this year. This is the sort of
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: company that Fabio's keeping on a Yamaha and I think
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: where it's exciting for Australian fans is that Jack Miller
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: MP me go to Yabaha at a time where Yabahar
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  Speaker 2: are really starting to climb. But over the course of
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: the weekend, when you can what he was riding and
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: the fact that he was doing it by himself, Fabia
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  Speaker 2: was not outside of the top ten in any session
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  Speaker 2: across the weekend, which is not something we've said about
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  Speaker 2: Yamaha for a while. He was absolutely outstanding and it's
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  Speaker 2: a nice It's just nice, as you said, to see
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  Speaker 2: a different bike in a different manufacturer back up the
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  Speaker 2: front again because it's been so long. We know how
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: good this guy is if he's given the tools to
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  Speaker 2: work with. And I think it was a really good
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  Speaker 2: sign for Yamaha, a really good sign for him. And
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: he was you know, you think he would be absolutely
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: gutted about basically having to roll his bike over the
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  Speaker 2: line after working so hard for thirty five minutes on Sunday,
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: but he was actually pretty bullish afterwards. He can see
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: signs of genuine progress with that team. That's not something
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: he's seen for a while, and it looks like, yeah,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: they got a long way to come back but they're
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  Speaker 2: pointing in the right direction, and he's a huge driving
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  Speaker 2: force for that. I don't think he's lost any of
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: his quality at all. And if they build him a
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: half reasonable bike to fight with, we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: seeing and fight for things that are much more important
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: than fifth or seventh places. Before too long, Well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Peko Vannoya this weekend because it's his
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: second home Grand Prix, because obviously back to back Mazano
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  Speaker 1: two and coming into this weekend he wasn't injured, he
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  Speaker 1: was looking strong, testing was good the couple weeks prior.
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  Speaker 1: So he did take poll this weekend and one Saturday's Sprint,
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  Speaker 1: Sunday's Grand Prix. It just seemed like the whole weekend,
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  Speaker 1: I guess completely did a one eighty and turned around
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  Speaker 1: from him, Matt, Did he have issues with the ties
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  Speaker 1: in the end? Is that why he dropped so far
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  Speaker 1: off in the pace before he started to pick things
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  Speaker 1: back up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he was saying. Afterwards.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: He was blaming Michelum without blaming Michelin, which is something
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of writers do when things go awry.
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  Speaker 2: But it was such a weird set of circumstances because
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: he got to the first corner and led the first
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: couple of laps, relinquished the lead to Martine, is like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, well that happened in the sprint as well,
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  Speaker 2: before he came back and picked him off, took that win,
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  Speaker 2: and then for about ten laps he was basically nowhere,
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  Speaker 2: and that he was so far back he was out
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  Speaker 2: of the TV shot at the front with Martine and Bastianini.
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  Speaker 2: It was a three and a half second deficit to
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  Speaker 2: the front at some point, and then it was almost
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  Speaker 2: like that rear tire started to work for him and
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  Speaker 2: he just came forward so fast he set the lap
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  Speaker 2: record and then broke it again on the following lap.
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  Speaker 2: He got to lap twenty one, the gaps just beneath
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  Speaker 2: two seconds, and you're going, oh boy, of these top three,
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  Speaker 2: he's clearly the fastest guy.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like we're going to have a three way fight.
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  Speaker 2: And then dropped the front going into turn eight and
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  Speaker 2: crashed out on lap twenty one, which was just one
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: of those I think he said he had thirty five
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: degrees of lean angle, which is not very much on
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  Speaker 2: a motor GP bike. Let's be perfectly honest, and the
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: thing just threw him off and definitely pointing a tire
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: issues for the reason that he DNF there. But what's
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: so interesting, and you mentioned this a couple of podcasts ago,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the derated number of the season for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's got seven DNFs now out of the two twenty
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: eight starts. And we're coming off this season last year
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: where it felt that Joge Martin threw the championship away
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  Speaker 2: by crashing from the lead and making wrong tire choices
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: at Philip Island and so on and so forth. Peko
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  Speaker 2: was always the steady hand and he would just always
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  Speaker 2: be there week after week. Jejgey Martin has three d
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: nfs this season and Pecko has seven, and that you
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: could basically say is the World Championship deficit right there,
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: because on his day, Pecko's still the fastest guy in
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  Speaker 2: the field. He's won seven races this year ready, which
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: matches the number that he won in twenty two and
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  Speaker 2: twenty three when he won the championship. How is he
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: twenty four points behind is because he keeps not finishing
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: from positions of advantage. So you know, all year, I
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  Speaker 2: think we've thought, oh, well, he's got time, he's got
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  Speaker 2: time he can overcome this deficit.
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  Speaker 3: We're starting to run.
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  Speaker 2: Out of time, and you know, clawing back twenty four
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  Speaker 2: points on a rider that's become as consistent as Martin
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  Speaker 2: has become this season, even as good as Banyyi is,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: this is going to be hard now. And that's not
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: a sentence that I thought that I was going to say,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: because I always had the most trust that he would
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: come through. We've got six race weekends left, and it's
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: not a situation where he can only afford one more
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  Speaker 2: slip up and he's in massive trouble. But we're fast
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: approaching that because he can't afford to throw any more
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  Speaker 2: results away. But it tires or crashes or lack of
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: concentration or whatever it is. He's not quite on a
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: knife edge. But if we're having this conversation in one
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  Speaker 2: or two races time, then he's in some trouble.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Think you just said lack of concentration. Then I just
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: took my mind back to the sprint. So I'm going
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: to just diverge there really quickly. Because Joege Martin said
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: that he had a lack of concentration when he got
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: that long lap penalty in the sprint which made him
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: finish second. But then to go back to what you're
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: saying is consistency is key, and this is what I
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: think we're seeing with Jje Martinez. He's finished second in
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: both races this weekend. There was a run there I
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: think it was Asen, it was Germany, maybe a Silverstone
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: where he was second, second, second, second the whole way through.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: And it just goes to show also that you don't
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: necessarily have to be winning all the time, but if
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: you are consistent, you're up the front, pushing through, then
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: that could be what doesn't make that champion. But sorry,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I've completely gone to two different lines there.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Well no, Well, here's a slight trivia quiz for you,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: because you'll struggle to remember it. When was the last
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: time Juage Martine won a Grand Prix Off the top
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: of your head.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Something I want to say, lemon, but am I?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, you are absolutely correct. That's nine Grand Prix a
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: goo for those of us still counting, and that was
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: round five.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: It was May.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: It was before winter here in Australia, so it's been
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: that long since he won on a Sunday. But he's
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: just so consistent and so there's been nine Sunday Grand
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Prix since he's been on the podium, been seven of them.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: So it shows you that consistency is the way to
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: build a championship lead. It's just the most pivotal thing
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: for Jorge right now because no, he's not winning, but
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: he's always there. And look, he's got this twenty four
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: point lead. That's even factoring in the fact that he
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: crashed with two laps to go in Germany and threw
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: away a win there. Even with all of that, he
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: still has a handy lead in the championship. What's absolutely
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: bizarre to be is you remember last week's podcast, we're
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: talking about, oh, how could he make a bike swap
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: when it wasn't raining and it was a disaster and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: he was lapped and he was fifteenth. You look at
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the two races in Messano, he actually gained one point
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: of Badya across two weekends because bad E's DNF last Sunday.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Is that's so funny how we look at these things.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: We thought the world was falling it after he made that,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: you know, had the brain fart in the first Mesado
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and pitted for a wet weather bike when it wasn't
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: raining and He's actually come out of two rounds at
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Mesado with a one point advantage over Peca.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I just want to touch again on his lack of concentration,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I guess with those long lap penalties.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, purely on.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: The fact that you know, in the test the Monday
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: after Mazzano one, they were testing this communication thing. There's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: ship to shore, and I thought, imagine if they did
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: have this ship to shore and he's losing concentration over
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: a message that comes up on his dash. Imagine someone
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: in your ear being, hey, you've got a long lap penalty.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: You just need to like go down a little bit,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: bro or something.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: And also, you know, I look at how busy these
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: guys are hanging off the side of bikes, you know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: going through like cavoning at Messana and have all these
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: other fast corners. When's the right time to speak to
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: a rider. The right time to speak to a rider
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: if we're going to go down this path is clearly
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: on the straight. But where are the bikes at They're
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: loudest at their loudest on a straight when they're completely
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: gassed up, and the rider will be lucky to hear
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: them anyway, So you'll be breaking into turn one and say,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: can you say that again? You're breaking up. It's like
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you've got a dodgy mobile or reception or something. And
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: then someone will be telling you that you've got a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: long lap penalty as you tip the bike into turn
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: one and you get distracted then run off or fall
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: off or something. So there's definitely a It's definitely another
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: story to happen there with the radios because it's different
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: when you're driving a car, and we see it with
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Formula one and supercars. It's a much more controlled environment
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: because the driver's body is not getting thrown around and
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it's not so physical, whereas on a bike, I'm not sure.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I mean there's bad times and worse times to talk
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: to a rider on a bike.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: When do you do it?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And then when do you communicate information like that? So, yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: if he's getting distracted by a message on his dash,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: imagine if that was someone in his ear telling you
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that he had a track limits penalty. What that would do.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, watch this space on that one because that's
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: going to be one of the biggest impediments to getting
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: this cross the line because the riders are going to say, well, sure,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: but when would you like to tell us this information?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And how distracting is it going to be?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, exactly. That's why I just thought, if he's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: getting distracted by a little message on his dash, that's
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: going to be yes when someone's in his ear. But Matt,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: we can't talk about MONOGP and not talk about Mark Marquez,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And for me, it kind of felt like a little
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: bit deja voo this weekend because of the qualifying crash
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: again where he was. I think this is the start
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: of the third row this weekend. So the question that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I want to post to you is because we are
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: starting to see a little bit more of a difference
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: between the GP twenty threes and the twenty fours, do
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you think if Mark did qualify on the first one
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to two rows, would he have been fighting for that
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: podium and like actually fighting there with Jorge and AA
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and Peco.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I still don't think so.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I think, going back to what we were saying before
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: about having two races at the same track in a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: three week period, everyone kind of knew where their level
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: was and so there was less gray area where someone
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: like Marquez could make a difference, and the whole weekend.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: He was basically saying, I'm targeting fourth place. He wants
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to be ahead of everybody else, and he doesn't think
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: he's going to have anything for the top three guys,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And that was pretty much how his race was panning out.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: A Costra had fallen off, so that was someone that
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: was out of his way, and he basically inherited the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: podium when Banyaya fell off with seven laps to go.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: But I don't think there was anything else more on
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: offer for him. There there was nothing random about the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: weekend in there. It didn't rain, we didn't have a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: crazy slippery track surface, we didn't have a flag to flag.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: There was no outlier variable where if you give Mark
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you an inch to capitalize on something random going on.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: He's right there. There was a lack of randomness about
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the whole weekend, even more so because it was the
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: second race at the same track in three weeks, so
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: it was an inherited podium. I don't think he was
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: ever expecting any more than that. I think once you
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: get out on the flyways, where there's more variables could rain,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: people have got less darted with these circuits going through
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Indonesia and Malaysia and Thailand and Australia than they normally do.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: There'll be more chances for him to make a difference
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: in those, and yeah, he's on an inferior bike to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the twenty four, but I think the twenty fours advantages
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: because there's much more unknowns going into five of these
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: last six rounds, that mitigates the advantage a little bit.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: So it was a muted podium. It was a decent podium.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Someone had to be there to sweep up the crumbs
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: when Banyai chucked it down the road, But I don't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: think there was anything else more on off of than that.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I think if not interesting this weekend because it wasn't
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: so VR forty six Valentino Rossi dominated compared to Mazano one,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: where we had Morbidelli and the Zeki qualifying on the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: front row. Morbidelli was on the sprint podium in Mazano one.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It felt this weekend, especially with all that Valentino drama
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that we touched on in the last part as well,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it felt it was very not Valentino Rossi driven this weekend.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, completely, and I think that's where having that second
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: race in three weeks the natural advantage that of our
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: forty six guys have from lapping Pisano blindfolded when everyone
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: else had been there two weeks previously and got their
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: eye in. I think the advantage of your Morbidelli's in
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: your Bizekis, who did have a very good race, actually
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: because he roll the dice on a software attire. But
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I think the advantage of those guys who lapped that
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: circuit a million times over was negated a little bit
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: because everyone had their eye in, it had been two
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: weeks since they've been there, not twelve months. That probably
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: took away some of the advantage there. But I don't
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: think I saw Valentino on the coverage on Sunday, which
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: is astonishing, But looking at some of the grand stands there,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I think the crowd was roughly half what it was
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: for the San Marino GP two weeks before. So not
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: only was Valentino not there, I don't think many other
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: people were either.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I heard on another podcast that the championship the what's
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for? The people who run the event,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: they initiative to people who came to Mazzano. One was
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: if you want to come back from Mazzano two or
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: give you get you tickets or basically half price, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I thought that was really good considering that we touched
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: on in the earlier pod. Mizzano Uh sorry, well, Ciperwikes
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: was on in Kromona, which is as far as I'm aware, just.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Up the road sort of yeah, people could.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Go to that, and Formula one was on in Singapore two,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: so there was a lot of motorsport happening on that weekend.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So I think to have about half the crowd that
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: they did have at Mazzano one was good, I would say.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Considering the same track, we kind of knew what was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: going to happen. We knew Peko and wait, we're gonna
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: be strong, So I think from that side of it,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: things were good. But I just want to touch on
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: as well. Heading into the weekend, Moto GP announced that
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: they are racing in Hungary from twenty five. They're going
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to be going to Balloton Park, so I'm excited. It's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a new track somewhere where a lot of the writers
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: haven't been before, so I think it's going to be
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: interesting next season.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: A new track's always great. I always like a new
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: circuit coming onto the calendar. I even like it more
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: when we actually go there, because this year we've had
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a couple of false starts with some of the others,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and obviously India was on the schedule last year and
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: they're not coming back on till twenty five. So I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: like the fact that there's the potential to have a
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Hungarian Grand Prix. We've had a few false starts on
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Hungarian Grand Prix over the years. So once we're on
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the ground and doing laps of Balloton Park, once Superbikes
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: has been there about a month before next year, then
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I will share your excitement. But I'm putting an asterisk
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: on my excitement at the moment because I love all
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: these new tracks, but it's even better when we actually
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: turn up to them, isn't it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I just want the Kazakhslan crandfrie to happen because I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: just want all the Borat memes to come out.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, my Kazaks.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Everyone's already saved those up. They've just had to on
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: the Black Burder. But I always think of all these
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: other races that get announced. It happened like the Finish
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Scrand Prix at the Kimmi Ring, which was one of
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: those ones that was always on the calendar, and then
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: it kept coming off the whole time. So yeah, we'll
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: believe it when we see it. But you know what's
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: strange is that, you know, here we are in the
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: end of September, we still don't have a calendar for
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: next year yet, which is super late. Maybe they're a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: little bit bitten by the fact that we've had a
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: few cancelations this year, and you're talking about Massano before.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: The Sunday crowd was pretty decent. The rest of the
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: weekend looked like a test session for the most part,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: because let's face it, the only reason we were at
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Massano for a second race is to get the calendar
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to twenty races, so to fulfill all the broadcast contracts.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I think Moto GP tried to be anywhere else but
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Massado for a second weekend and ended up going back there,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: which had a few people saying, oh, it's a huge
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: advantage for Vanyaira and all the VR forty six guys,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: which didn't actually turn out that way in the end.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I like a new race, but yeah, let's
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: get there.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: First, we have to talk about Moto two, because oh
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: my god, that was exactly this is why we have
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to talk about Moto iiO. First of all, we've got
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to talk about Senna our Aussie strong top ten finish
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: for him. He was P seven, I believe, So I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: think that's good. It's another Tanni meter into Q two
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: as well. So that consistency, like we're talking about the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: wohem Martine, is the same thing for sennas is his
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: rookie year. He can keep learning, keep growing, and then
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: next year he's going to have all these circuits, all
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that experience under his belt. I think he's going to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: go in strong next year.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. He was just really accomplished the entire weekend,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and behind the scenes he was not feeling particularly well
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: most of the weekend as well. So super impressive with
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: what he did. And he just looks more legit now
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: when you see him in that top ten, Like you
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: see his name in that top ten amongst all of
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: these really experienced Motor two guys now and you're like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: all right, Senner's doing well here for a guy in
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: hiss rookie World Championship season. But it looks accomplished and assured,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and he wrote a really really strong race, got inside
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the top ten early never really looked like falling out
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: of it. Just another boxer tick for him. Steenth in
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the World Championship now, but he's been good in the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: back half of the season particularly, But we're talking about
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: it before the end of that Motor two race. My
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: memory's fading, but I can't think of a better last
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: lap of a Moto two race for a while, because
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: when can you say you've watched Motor two race and
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: the lead changes hands three times in the last three quarters.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It was absolutely ridiculous, fantastic TV. And a lot of
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: people have watched that category for a long time have
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: said they can't think of a better Motor two race
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: because that's often the one that can be a little
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: bit spread out and a little bit dull of the three.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: It was the best race of the weekend.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I think if you haven't watched it, honestly, go and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: watch it to not spoil it for you. But Tony Abellino,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: he runs wide, then Aaron Kennett basically jumps on and
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: takes the lead until Vietti gets a slip off that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: last corner and those two Kennet Nbeti are drag racing
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to the finish line. It is oh I wouldn't be
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: able to tell you that. It was literally like there
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the smallest gap in front that Viti one by you
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: could just see. Afterwards the celebration Canette was like damn,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: like I was so close, but oh what a final
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: three corners.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Fantastic TV. And then they cut to the shot of
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Fabio Cross on the pit wall because Simontoni Abillino are
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: good mates and I was so close to getting his
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: first wind of the year and it's not been a
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: fantastic year for him in the intermediate class, so to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: lose it at home with three corners to go, but
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Aaron Kennett, my goodness, and we know the guy's finally
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: won a Moto TiO race, but he must be I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: think even know if he wants to keep his second
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: place trophies. At this point he's probably thoroughly sick of
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the side of them because he's got about seventeen of them.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But yeah, just what a last lap that was fantastic.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Also, Moto three, that last lap battle was just insane.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Alonzo Paceras Hogado and Colin Vaya just changing the hands
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: one after the other, and it's so good to see
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that these lower classes, the battles are intense, it's so entertaining.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: The well a Motor three this year is the most
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: uneven of the three series because David Alonso is going
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to win this championship before anyone else wins Motor two
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: or Motor GP. But even with the huge advantage that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: he's got, there's two things. One, he's a showman. If
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: you haven't seen it on social media yet, go and
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: have a look at his Uni cycle celebration on Sunday
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: after the race. He's better at riding a Moto three
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: bike that he is riding a unicycle as a crashed
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: rider rider okay in the gravel trap afterwards, which was hilarious,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: But I reckon Moto three is in a really good
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: spot at the moment because there's some guys that you
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: look at that are coming through and jack up. We
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: mentioned this in a story we've done for Fox Sports
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. There's three or four guys in
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: that series right now that you can absolutely see being
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: a Motor GP in a couple of years time, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: not just making up the numbers, like Alonso is kind
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: of seen as the next Acosta, who is the next
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Marquez in that series he's doing things in Moto three
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: we've never seen before. Colin Faire looks like a motor
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: GP rider in waiting. To me, he's got every physical
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: tool in the kit to go up to the PREMI
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: your class in the future, So exciting times in there.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: And the one you didn't mention, of course, in that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: mix for the podium as he seems to be all
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the time at the moment, is Australias Joel kel so
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I finished seventh, but four and a half seconds off
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the win, so he was closer the previous time. But
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: five top tens in a row for Joel, just quietly
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and up to eighth in the World Championship. He's looking
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: really good, isn't.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: He same thing what we're talking about with Senna? Right
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: for these boys. Obviously Joel's been in the World Championship
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: now for a few more years. But it's that consistency
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that's what you need, that's what's going to help you
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: keep progressing. He's obviously got his right sorted for next year,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: so there's no dramas there, but we're signing to see.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that level of maturity, that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: next step from him where he is improving with those
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: top tens. Could we possibly see him in Moto two
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the year after or maybe even following Jack Miller's footsteps
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and do that big leap into Moto GP.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Well, that would be a big bridge for Joel.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: The thing for Moto three as you see a lot
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: of these guys come through these teenagers and they get
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: too big for the bike. They almost look comically big
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: for the Motor three bike, and you can see like
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Altola is a bigger guy, and there's a couple of
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: guys that are in that category. Joel's going to be
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a Motor three size rider for the entirety of Joel's career,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: whether he's in MOOTO three or not. So he's definitely
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in the right place at the moment. But look really
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: moving forward, And while we're talking Ozzi's in Moto three, Nita,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: we should probably talk about Jacob Rolson as well, because
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a couple of seriously big crashes for him on Friday
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and twenty first in the race and got an absolute
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: rocket from Herve Pontreal afterwards. I'm not sure whether you
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: saw this, but I actually circled this to read to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you today. So Herve Pontreal after the race, said his
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: level is dropping, probably because of weekly stupid mistakes. Jacob
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: is a rookie, so he's making rookie mistakes. But we
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: clearly need to regroup and improve on that point because
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: he is not where he should be. So it's all
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: been super positive from Herve so far this year, but
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: maybe those two crashes on Friday, Herve's patients ran out
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit. We know that Sacob's going to be
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: there next year, so he doesn't worry about next year,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: but hasn't had a great result for a while. It's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: just had two points finishes in the last six rounds,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: so it's definitely gone a bit downhill for him. But
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: those two accidents on Friday, he looked very sore and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: sorry for himself, didn't he.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think that maybe there's like a bit of
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: pressure getting to Jacob because it's the first year. I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: know he was trying to go for a Rookie of
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the year, maybe to prove a point because he is
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: in such a well established known Moto three team. Is
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: there a bit of pressure sitting on his shoulders at
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the moment.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I mean it's interesting that he got his twenty twenty
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: five deals sorted super early. He's actually had the kind
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of season that I thought he might as a rookie
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: in the World Championship, but in reverse, if that makes sense,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and that I thought he might struggle to get out
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: of the gate and have a few crashes and beat
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: himself up while he was finding the level and then
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: come on stronger as the season goes. He's actually done
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it the other way around, and that he was so
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: good early that it probably raised the expectations a little bit.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And so what he's doing now maybe was how he
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: would have started a rookie season in some instances. So
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: on balance, he's probably a little bit behind where he'd
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: like to be, but not super far. But I think
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Montreal's comment is we've seen that he's better than this
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: because he's already demonstrated it, and least things snowball, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: positive or negative momentum. He's just in a bit of
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a rut at the moment. So to get out of Europe,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: to get to some of the flyaways and you start
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: afresh with tracks that not everyone has great familiarity with
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: might be a good thing for him. I sense it
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: just needs one result. But on Friday at Messano last week,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: he just beat himself up so badly with those two
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: crashes at the rest of the weekend was a bit
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of a write off. Having a back to back with
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Indonesia this weekend is tough for him, but I think
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: he will just be He just needs that one result,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: steady the ship a little bit and we'll see him
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: back where he was in the first half.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Of the year.
• 33:47
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• 33:50
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• 33:54
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• 33:59
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• 34:02
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