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Dune You Forget About Me · Large Nerdron Collider

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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of my
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
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Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I am Ariel casting, and with me, as
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Speaker 1: always is my super brilliant creative co host Jonathan Strickland. Guys,
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Speaker 1: I really wish you could be on this video call.
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Speaker 1: When we do this, Ariel really talks with her hands
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Speaker 1: a lot, and it's just very entertaining to me and
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Speaker 1: it never translates over to the podcast. Ariel, as always,
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Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Okay, your question is
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Speaker 1: and this will actually loop back into the episode. Believe
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Speaker 1: it or not. You're familiar with the Dungeons and the Dragons, correct,
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Speaker 1: I might be a little familiar with the Dungeons and
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Speaker 1: the Dragons. Yes, if you had to put yourself into
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Speaker 1: a class in the Dungeons and the Dragons, like any
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Speaker 1: class you want, It doesn't have to be one that
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Speaker 1: you think fits you right now. You could be any
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Speaker 1: class in the real world. Which class do you choose?
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Speaker 1: I would be a barred barion, a bard, so, a
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Speaker 1: barred barbarian. Yes, yes, wait wait wait are you do
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Speaker 1: you only play heavy metal? Do you like? Do you
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Speaker 1: like pose for Molly Hatchet album covers? Listen? We all know?
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Speaker 1: Uh well, actually our new listeners may not know. I
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Speaker 1: do dabble in the LARPing when it's not dimmick, and
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Speaker 1: I usually play heavy hitters barbarian type people. I just
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Speaker 1: like it. It's just it's fun to not have to
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Speaker 1: worry about learning too much, fun to whack people with
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Speaker 1: a giant foam stick. Yes, but then I also I
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Speaker 1: also play music in in you know, my real life,
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Speaker 1: and then some of my bandmates also play with me,
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Speaker 1: so then I end up playing music. And so Bard
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Speaker 1: Baryon is not an actual D and d uh class
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Speaker 1: for for anybody who's not familiar, but I'm really working
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Speaker 1: to make it one so you get multi class. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: what about you. I'm trying to remember the rules for
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Speaker 1: d n D and whether Bard is allowable as a
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Speaker 1: multi class character. Um well, I guess it depends on
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Speaker 1: the iteration of a right. Yeah. You also, dear listeners,
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Speaker 1: have to remember that when I started playing Ducheons and Dragons,
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Speaker 1: it was after the basic dn D set that had
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Speaker 1: been released, but it was when Advanced Dungeons and Dragons
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Speaker 1: was a sing before even the second edition, So I've
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Speaker 1: had a lot of different experiences with D n D
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Speaker 1: over the many generations. I would say that out of
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Speaker 1: all the different classes that have existed throughout the various
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Speaker 1: iterations of D and D, I would go with Swashbuckler,
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Speaker 1: which I recall from Advance Stages and Dragons second edition.
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Speaker 1: It was in the Fighters Manual where you got like
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Speaker 1: a supplemental manual to the game, and it had a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of different subclasses of fighters and Swashbucklers, essentially
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Speaker 1: pirate or musketeer type character. But the other option I
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Speaker 1: would have gone with, if I go with just the
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Speaker 1: basic ones, is also barred. Not because I'm particularly musical,
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Speaker 1: but because I'm irritating and rarely helpful. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that about you at all. You're very helpful and I
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Speaker 1: enjoy being around. That's why you and I are in
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Speaker 1: a party together, and people you want to hang out
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Speaker 1: with me. So I'm glad we have that question settled.
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Speaker 1: And today we're going to be talking a lot about
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Speaker 1: movies and what has been going on throughout the pandemic
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Speaker 1: and how it's affected movies. Just as we talked about
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Speaker 1: television previously, now we're talking about film, and this is
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Speaker 1: also a moment for us to acknowledge that are our
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Speaker 1: wonderful producer TORII. She has a background in film, She
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Speaker 1: went to film school, so I'm sure this is one
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Speaker 1: of those things that she feels particularly passionate about as
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Speaker 1: we are looking at how the world of film is
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Speaker 1: changing as a result of the the health crisis. But
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Speaker 1: we're gonna start off by talking about specific movies and
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Speaker 1: what's been going on with them. Some of them have
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Speaker 1: have seen their their release dates shuffle around a bit,
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Speaker 1: and and specifically giggy movies that we're excited about. So
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Speaker 1: you know, we're not always going to talk about TV
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Speaker 1: and movies, but that's what we're doing today, all right.
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Speaker 1: So I think we should start with The Batman the Batman,
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Speaker 1: not just the Batmanman the Batman the Batman with Robert
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Speaker 1: Pattinson um because they went back to filming during during
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Speaker 1: the pandemic and then they immediately shut down because Robert
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Speaker 1: Pattinson had COVID. Yeah, this was one of those examples
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Speaker 1: we were talking about in that last episode about how
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Speaker 1: depending upon who gets affected and and and how often
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Speaker 1: they're around other people. Uh, a COVID case can shut
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Speaker 1: down a production for a couple of weeks. Now, in
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Speaker 1: this case, you're talking about the lead actor. So obviously
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Speaker 1: that's going to affect things. But if it if it
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Speaker 1: was like a day player, like a one line person,
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Speaker 1: they might just get replaced, right if if and if
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Speaker 1: they were able to determine, oh well, that person wasn't
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Speaker 1: around enough people for that to be a potential problem.
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Speaker 1: So it was originally going to come out on October
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Speaker 1: in October, and now currently they've pushed that back to
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Speaker 1: March of twenty two, and Dune, which was going to
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Speaker 1: come out a little earlier, is now moving into the
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Speaker 1: Batman's original time launch window. And June was supposed to
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Speaker 1: come out this year is supposed to be a Christmas present.
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Speaker 1: The spice must flow, but it must flow a little
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Speaker 1: later than when we intended. Yeah, that's that's a that's
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Speaker 1: a bummer. I mean, it's part of this is obviously
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Speaker 1: because of delays in production. Part of it is due
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Speaker 1: to just making the strategy of when your tent pole
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Speaker 1: films are going to launch, and and it's also a
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Speaker 1: lot of hedging your bets and wondering like, when are
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Speaker 1: you going to be able to make the biggest impact?
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Speaker 1: When will will theaters be open by then? We'll talk
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Speaker 1: a lot more about theaters later in this episode. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you know that's not the only one. Matrix is
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Speaker 1: also being pushed back. Matrix is being moved up. This
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Speaker 1: one's actually they fin that one earlier and so it's
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Speaker 1: been moved up to December one, but originally it was
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Speaker 1: supposed to come out in the spring of two. I'm
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Speaker 1: excited about Matrix four, although I never saw the third
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Speaker 1: Matrix movie. I so just my very personal opinion, I
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Speaker 1: there are only a few movies that once they get
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Speaker 1: to the third I'm like, yeah, this is still super awesome,
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Speaker 1: and Matrix is one of those that just didn't hit
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Speaker 1: that benchmark for me. Well, Matrix two is why I
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Speaker 1: didn't see Matrix three, Okay, Like I loved the first film.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting, really innovative. It was
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Speaker 1: the second DVD I ever bought, which I think is
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people Matrix is. Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: first first DVD I ever bought was South Park, Bigger, longer,
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Speaker 1: and uncut, So I wouldn't I wouldn't admit to that,
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Speaker 1: but that's a fan pastic musical. But Matrix, for I
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Speaker 1: am still kind of excited about it because I want
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Speaker 1: to see what the new vision is for that world.
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Speaker 1: I didn't like the way Matrix to unfolded. I felt
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Speaker 1: like a lot of the things I thought I understood
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Speaker 1: about the first film I was totally off base about,
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Speaker 1: and instead of being excited by that, I was discouraged,
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Speaker 1: which is why I never bothered to see the third one,
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Speaker 1: because I was just like, this feels like it took
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Speaker 1: a left turn and I really wanted to see what
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Speaker 1: was straight ahead. So I got I was like, I'm out, um,
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Speaker 1: but I do. I do wanna see how that goes.
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Speaker 1: And of course, I mean anytime you can build out
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Speaker 1: the mythology of a science fiction world, I think that
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Speaker 1: can be exciting. Yeah, if if you just want to
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Speaker 1: explore more of the Matrix world, have you watched the Animatrix?
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Speaker 1: I have not, and that was one of those that
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Speaker 1: I really wanted to check out because I kept hearing
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Speaker 1: that at least half of the entries in the Animatrix
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Speaker 1: were really good. In the other half, we're you know,
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Speaker 1: different people had different reactions to Yeah, I mean, I
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Speaker 1: would agree, but it also helps you kind of explore
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Speaker 1: that world more. You expect it to be a left
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Speaker 1: turn sort of or at least a bunny trail. But
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Speaker 1: back to Batman is not the The Batman sorry, is
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Speaker 1: not the only superhero movie being pushed back. Uh, the
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Speaker 1: Flash is also being pushed back. Shazam two is being
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Speaker 1: pushed back, and then Black Adam sadly not being pushed back.
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Speaker 1: It was taken off, which I just want to say, like,
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Speaker 1: I enjoy Shasam, but I was really watching it. Let's
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Speaker 1: be honest here to myself, true to myself for Black
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Speaker 1: Adam to come in, because that's Dwayne Johnson, Dwayne the
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Speaker 1: Rock Johnson Rock, who I was very excited to see
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Speaker 1: his Black Adam. So that's disappointing. I hope they bring
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Speaker 1: it back in a future time. I mean, obviously, as
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Speaker 1: as we were just alluding to, the pandemic has made
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Speaker 1: it much more complicated for these these companies that have
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Speaker 1: had extensive, like launch plans that are laid out to
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Speaker 1: be like a decade out. Disney has done this with
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Speaker 1: the Marvel films. Not to mention some other ones will
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Speaker 1: talk about in just a second. But uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: clearly something like this throws a wrench into all of that,
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Speaker 1: because again, productions are more complicated and you're not really
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Speaker 1: sure if you're even gonna have theaters to release two
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Speaker 1: by the end of it. Yeah. The weird one for
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Speaker 1: me though, because Black Adam is not the only movie
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Speaker 1: from that studio site that has been dropped all together.
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Speaker 1: They've also dropped the Minecraft movie. To me, I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking that's when it's perfect to making Quarantine, because it's
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Speaker 1: all I would imagine. It would all be C g
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Speaker 1: I and voice actors. I haven't heard much about the
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Speaker 1: Minecraft movie, have you have not, but I was really
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Speaker 1: hoping it was going to be a live action film
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Speaker 1: starring Patton Oswald with a pick axe. I would yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would watch that. I would watch that very very hard.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was a Minecraft movie in
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Speaker 1: production until I read that. So we read an article
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Speaker 1: in Variety that had all this information in it about
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Speaker 1: the different films that have been affected by the pandemic,
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Speaker 1: and then we got the thing that leads into where
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Speaker 1: I asked the question at the beginning of the episode.
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Speaker 1: Something I'm also excited to see what people do with,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is one. I didn't realize that there
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Speaker 1: was a Dungeons and Dragons movie currently in development until
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Speaker 1: I was doing research on films that had been impacted
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Speaker 1: by the lockdown, and I saw that one of them
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Speaker 1: that was pushed back was Dungeons and Dragons, and I thought, really,
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Speaker 1: they're going to try and make another one of those. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've been talking about it forever. So for me,
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Speaker 1: it's not that I didn't know that there was a
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Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons movie and develop them, it's that I
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Speaker 1: didn't know one had actually taken purchase. I mean we
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Speaker 1: even heard Joe Meganello. I think I said that right,
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Speaker 1: uh wanted to make a D and D movie. He's
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Speaker 1: a big D and D fan. We know that Vin
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Speaker 1: Diesel is a big D and D fan, so it
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Speaker 1: was only a matter of time. It's just the past
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Speaker 1: ones have not been exception of the cartoon, have not
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Speaker 1: been the most fun to watch. One thing I think
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Speaker 1: is interesting is that a lot of the people who
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Speaker 1: you would associate with actually doing a D and D movie,
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Speaker 1: as in these are people who are either associated with
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Speaker 1: with loving the game or loving like video games. Things
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Speaker 1: like like Henry cavill and stuff people like that. They're
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Speaker 1: all these huge beefy dudes, which is which is funny
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Speaker 1: to be Like, Like, I think of the gun people
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Speaker 1: I played dn D with. We none of us were
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Speaker 1: huge beefy dudes. Um so no, but you might have
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Speaker 1: pretended that you were. But these guys are gonna have
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Speaker 1: to pretend that there. Like I would want a dn
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Speaker 1: D movie where half the film is taking place in
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Speaker 1: the real world and you see the real people who
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Speaker 1: are playing the characters. So I mean, but if you've
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Speaker 1: got a big beefy dude playing acter, you want to
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Speaker 1: see the people playing the game playing the characters. I
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Speaker 1: see what you're saying. Didn't they do that in the
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Speaker 1: last DND movie that didn't go So I honestly don't know.
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Speaker 1: I stopped. It didn't have Richard O'Brien in it, so
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Speaker 1: I was out, all right, I couldn't do that fair enough.
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Speaker 1: So we don't know much about this D and D
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Speaker 1: movie other than the fact that it was supposed to
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Speaker 1: release in one and is now pushed to May two.
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Speaker 1: Try saying that five times past, because it's not that hard.
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Speaker 1: But there are lots of speculations of people that they've
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Speaker 1: been pursuing to be in it. Will Smith, Josh Brolin,
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Speaker 1: Chris Pratt, Fan Diesel Vin Diesel, Yeah, Matthew mcconnaugh hey,
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Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx, Joel Ledgerton, Dave Battista, Jeremy Renner, Johnny Depp.
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Speaker 1: A lot of them have worked in fantasy and sci
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Speaker 1: fi genre US, so it's not that they're unusual too,
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Speaker 1: they're unfamiliar to those genres. But Luper did make an
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Speaker 1: assumption or post a question, and I wonder what you
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Speaker 1: think about it, Jonathan. They said, are they looking at
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Speaker 1: all these people to pare them down to one leading man?
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Speaker 1: Or are they looking at all of these people to
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Speaker 1: be leading men? Because each is going to play a
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Speaker 1: different character type, and a party is usually made up
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Speaker 1: of leading men, which I think would be fantastic. I'd
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Speaker 1: love to see each of them take their own style
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Speaker 1: of acting and preferred genre and put it into their
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Speaker 1: D and D party character. I mean, I imagine it's
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Speaker 1: going to be it's going to be an ensemble piece.
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Speaker 1: If it's not an ensemble piece, then it's not really
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Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons, right, So I mean like it might
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Speaker 1: as well be any fantasy film. If you have it
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Speaker 1: where there's one principal lead and then a bunch of
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Speaker 1: supporting characters, you could you don't have to have the
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Speaker 1: D and D. You know, I p attached to it
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Speaker 1: at all, because really, when I think of ducheons and dragons,
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Speaker 1: I think of that that party experience, and honestly, I
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Speaker 1: would like to see an all women cast, uh and
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Speaker 1: just bring all the actresses from Bridesmaids in and do
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Speaker 1: a D and D movie. Okay, an aerial too, an ariel.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I have no doubt it'll be on an
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Speaker 1: ensemble cast. It's just whether it's an ensemble of like
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Speaker 1: a big name and a bunch of lesser known actors,
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Speaker 1: or an ensemble of all Yeah, I think it'll probably be. Actually,
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Speaker 1: they're probably gonna aim. I mean a lot of the
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Speaker 1: producers that are attached to this, or people who have
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Speaker 1: worked on movies like Guardians of the Galaxy, so you
15:36
Speaker 1: look at that and you're like, Okay, well, you've worked
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Speaker 1: with some ensembles that have some some notable people in them.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we could probably expect something along
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Speaker 1: the same lines. And obviously, anytime you're trying something like that,
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Speaker 1: the hope is that you can set things up for
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Speaker 1: another franchise, right, So another like how long are you
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Speaker 1: going to go to the well of Marvel, d C
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Speaker 1: and Star Wars. You're probably gonna want a couple of
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Speaker 1: other things to dip into occasionally as well. And I
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Speaker 1: think Dudgeons and Dragons is one of those things. Yeah.
16:08
Speaker 1: Another one of those things this Ghostbuster Ghostbusters Afterlife. So
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Speaker 1: this was supposed to come out, uh in you know,
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Speaker 1: early one at least, but it's had its own delays.
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Speaker 1: It recently wrapped shooting as in not like I think
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Speaker 1: it was in November of this year that they finally wrapped. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: their whole production was delayed significantly through the pandemic. I
16:34
Speaker 1: mean I remember seeing the teaser trailers for Ghostbusters Afterlife
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Speaker 1: like almost a year ago, and they hadn't even they
16:43
Speaker 1: still had a year to go before they rapped shooting. Yeah,
16:47
Speaker 1: and this is a hard one because they do have
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Speaker 1: kid actors and and kid actors grow up and this one,
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Speaker 1: this one's supposed to come out June, and this one's
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Speaker 1: from Paramount. We're gonna talk a little bit more about
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Speaker 1: some energies that movie studios have when it comes to
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Speaker 1: releasing films in the pandemic. What Paramount has been essentially
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Speaker 1: doing is, rather than holding onto its movies, selling off
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Speaker 1: those films to various streaming services. Yeah. Something else I
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Speaker 1: am sure I will enjoy when it eventually comes out
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Speaker 1: is the Wicked movie. I've never actually seen the stage play.
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Speaker 1: I've seen it now, you know, and I lived with
17:29
Speaker 1: a roommate who adored it, So I've heard all of
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Speaker 1: the music. I just haven't never defied gravity on multiple occasions,
17:37
Speaker 1: defied gravity and and defied societal expectations for myself. I mean,
17:43
Speaker 1: that's that's that's your go too. Yeah. So this was
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Speaker 1: this was originally supposed to come out um next December,
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Speaker 1: so December, but that obviously hasn't happened. I mean they,
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Speaker 1: as far as I know, they haven't even begun production
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Speaker 1: on this. The director who was attached to the prod
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Speaker 1: check had to exit, Stephen Daldry, because he had scheduling
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Speaker 1: conflicts because the delays had pushed this so far back.
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Speaker 1: So as far as I know, it's still planned. Uh,
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Speaker 1: there's I haven't heard of a new director being attached
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Speaker 1: to it, largely because again it's hard to plan things
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Speaker 1: when you're in the middle of a pandemic. But this
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Speaker 1: is a This is a bummer for people who who
18:21
Speaker 1: like movie musicals. Yeah, yeah, you know, And I do
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Speaker 1: appreciate Daldry for stepping down. You know, it wasn't out
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Speaker 1: of malice. It was simply he couldn't turn it around
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Speaker 1: in the time they wanted. And I appreciate him saying,
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Speaker 1: you might find find somebody who can give you a
18:36
Speaker 1: better product for the time frame you He said that
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Speaker 1: it was an amicable parting. It was just, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's just business. Also just business. I'm kind of excited
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Speaker 1: because Jurassic to a park dominion, it feels like it's
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Speaker 1: taking all of the previous Jurassic parks and mashing it
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Speaker 1: all up together, which it is, uh, and I'm very
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Speaker 1: excited about it. Uh to see all of those actors altogether,
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Speaker 1: the Jurassic World and the Jurassic Park. I'm curious to
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Speaker 1: see if once again we will have a plot that's
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Speaker 1: so stupid about making dinosaurs as weapons, as if that
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Speaker 1: would somehow be more effective than I don't know, weapons. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's it's Jurassic Park dominion. They're all going to be
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Speaker 1: wearing pith helmets, pith helmets and top hats and monocles,
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Speaker 1: the dinosaurs, uh and and playing parliament. I'm fine with that.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, this movie was an enormous effort. It took
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Speaker 1: a year and a half from pre production to rapping,
19:39
Speaker 1: and that's with it being the first movie to come
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Speaker 1: back to production after Everything Shift. That was the very
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Speaker 1: first film, major film, to go back into production after
19:48
Speaker 1: the initial lockdown. According to the producers, they administered approximately
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Speaker 1: forty thousand COVID tests throughout the length of the production
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Speaker 1: and process once they came back online. Apparently, the the
20:05
Speaker 1: COVID testing added somewhere around eight million dollars to the
20:09
Speaker 1: film's budget um, just just to make sure that they
20:13
Speaker 1: were doing things in a way that wasn't going to
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Speaker 1: put anyone at risk. They also had hand washing stations
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Speaker 1: and temperature stations and doctors on set. They worked with
20:22
Speaker 1: a private health company to make sure that their set
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Speaker 1: was as safe as they could possibly make it, which
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Speaker 1: is fantastic. And then they all lived in the bubble,
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Speaker 1: which mean they didn't really get to see their family.
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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you're shooting a film, if you've
20:36
Speaker 1: if you've got a period of time where you're not
20:38
Speaker 1: working you can go visit your family for a little
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Speaker 1: bit if they're not nearby. These people couldn't do that.
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Speaker 1: They all had to be quarantined together. But in reading
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Speaker 1: the article from Deadline, it sounds like that made them
20:47
Speaker 1: a lot closer, and so I'm really interested to see
20:53
Speaker 1: how that affects the actor's performances in this movie, because
20:56
Speaker 1: you've got that extra level of vulnerability when you're living
20:59
Speaker 1: with somebody day day out. For that, it made me
21:01
Speaker 1: think of the stories about the filming process for What
21:04
Speaker 1: Hot American Summer, because everyone actually stayed at that summer camp,
21:08
Speaker 1: and so through the process of staying there, they all
21:12
Speaker 1: got like ridiculous and silly, and it kind of carried
21:16
Speaker 1: over into the movie, which obviously is ridiculous and silly.
21:19
Speaker 1: So I except for the week that they rented it
21:22
Speaker 1: out to the bar Mitzian So I think. I think
21:24
Speaker 1: it's like one of those sort of things where it
21:26
Speaker 1: is kind of like you almost think of it as
21:28
Speaker 1: a sleepaway camp kind of experience, not the movie Sleepaway Camp.
21:31
Speaker 1: That's that's a slasher film. But you know, you don't
21:35
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Well, when we come back, we're
21:38
Speaker 1: gonna have a little bit more discussion about what is
21:42
Speaker 1: the future for film, not just as we go through
21:46
Speaker 1: the rest of the pandemic and out the other side,
21:49
Speaker 1: but but moving forward from there. And we've got a
21:53
Speaker 1: lot to talk about with that. But let's take a
21:55
Speaker 1: quick break, al right, So we're back and a couple
22:09
Speaker 1: of our news articles we actually moved into this conversation
22:12
Speaker 1: topic because it's important to the future of movie theaters.
22:16
Speaker 1: So Universal Pictures has shortened the amount of time that
22:20
Speaker 1: a blockbuster movie at first round movie stays in the
22:23
Speaker 1: theater before people can rent it online by it such
22:28
Speaker 1: like that to to try to make up for these
22:30
Speaker 1: profits that are being missed, and uh, it hit theater
22:36
Speaker 1: is pretty hard. It did the original. Generally, the accepted
22:43
Speaker 1: approach is that a film is in theaters for like
22:46
Speaker 1: three months before you can start to offer it up
22:49
Speaker 1: on things like Blu ray or streaming. But Universal shortens
22:54
Speaker 1: that to seventeen days, so half a month essentially. M Yeah,
23:00
Speaker 1: and then like very recent news, as in the week
23:04
Speaker 1: that we're recording this, Warner Brothers announced that they're going
23:07
Speaker 1: to be just releasing a whole year worth of their
23:10
Speaker 1: movies to HBO Max directly without along with the movie
23:16
Speaker 1: theater without any without any extra charge for HBO Max.
23:20
Speaker 1: This is to drive more people to subscribe to HBO Max.
23:25
Speaker 1: And uh, the idea there is that films that will
23:30
Speaker 1: go up in theaters will also be available that day
23:33
Speaker 1: on HBO Max and they will be available for I
23:37
Speaker 1: think thirty one days, uh for free. Yeah. So that
23:41
Speaker 1: that way, if you are, if you are an HBO
23:43
Speaker 1: Max subscriber, then the seventeen movies that Warner has on
23:48
Speaker 1: its slate for will all be available. And both of
23:53
Speaker 1: these stories are making movie theater is very nervous. Understandably,
23:59
Speaker 1: they are not. They are fans of the idea of
24:04
Speaker 1: getting rid of that exclusivity. That exclusivity of of only
24:07
Speaker 1: being able to see a movie in a movie theater
24:09
Speaker 1: is the lifeblood for for theaters, and they've been having
24:13
Speaker 1: a real hard time in a lot of movie theaters
24:17
Speaker 1: have been looking at shutting down. Uh. In fact, Cineworld,
24:21
Speaker 1: which owns Regal cinemas, shut down all five thirty six
24:25
Speaker 1: of its theaters for at least until March of next
24:29
Speaker 1: year because there's not enough movies coming out to keep
24:33
Speaker 1: them going. The I think the nail in the coffin
24:36
Speaker 1: was when the new James Bond film got pushed back.
24:39
Speaker 1: They said, there's yeah, there's just not enough movies to
24:42
Speaker 1: bring audiences in for us to break even. They like,
24:45
Speaker 1: even even if they have all full, Like a lot
24:49
Speaker 1: of theaters are working at capacity right now, so even
24:53
Speaker 1: if they have they sell out that entire capacity. If
24:57
Speaker 1: there's only one movie, they aren't gonna be able to
25:00
Speaker 1: pay their employees, Eric can be able to buy the popcorn,
25:03
Speaker 1: the concessions and everything. We've known for a long time
25:06
Speaker 1: that the margins of running the theater business are really thin. Like,
25:10
Speaker 1: theaters do not make very much money off of ticket sales.
25:13
Speaker 1: They make their money elsewhere, like largely through concessions and
25:17
Speaker 1: also renting out their space occasionally. And uh, and we're
25:21
Speaker 1: starting obviously both of those take a huge hit, right.
25:24
Speaker 1: So if you if you're selling fewer tickets, fewer people
25:26
Speaker 1: are going to be buying food. Um, and if you
25:31
Speaker 1: are in the middle of a pandemic, you're not gonna
25:34
Speaker 1: get a lot of people saying, oh, you know what
25:35
Speaker 1: I want to do rent out a movie theater and
25:38
Speaker 1: fill it with two other people. So it's it's a
25:42
Speaker 1: really tough time. And there are a lot of articles
25:46
Speaker 1: out there asking about do movie theaters even have a future?
25:50
Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to survive this? When
25:52
Speaker 1: they were already struggling before the pandemic, and now not
25:58
Speaker 1: only has the pandemic shut them down in the meantime,
26:02
Speaker 1: but setting an expectation among consumers about what seeing a
26:07
Speaker 1: film means these days, I mean it is. It's really
26:12
Speaker 1: interesting to me because so much of the recouping the
26:15
Speaker 1: cost of making the movie comes from that initial box
26:18
Speaker 1: office weekend, you know, uh, and if you're getting it
26:22
Speaker 1: for free on streaming, I don't know how they're going
26:24
Speaker 1: to recoup that. I don't have insight into that. But
26:29
Speaker 1: also as a consumer, when when you look at, for instance,
26:33
Speaker 1: King Kong versus Godzilla or Dune or something big like that,
26:38
Speaker 1: which are a couple of the movies coming to HBO Max,
26:41
Speaker 1: I want to see those on the big screen. There's
26:43
Speaker 1: so much work and so much detail put into the
26:47
Speaker 1: special effects, into the imagery, into the landscaping, and so
26:53
Speaker 1: much soundscaping, so much artistry put into the entire package
26:57
Speaker 1: that I you know, I have a pretty good media
26:59
Speaker 1: set up my house, but it still does not compare
27:02
Speaker 1: in any way to seeing it on the big screen,
27:04
Speaker 1: especially if you go opening night and you've got all
27:06
Speaker 1: the people around you, and I realized, we can't do
27:08
Speaker 1: that in a pandemic right now. But you know, you've
27:10
Speaker 1: got all the people around you, and you all gasp
27:11
Speaker 1: at the same moments, and you all laugh and share
27:13
Speaker 1: at the same moments. There is nothing to replace that feeling. Um,
27:18
Speaker 1: So Netflix watch parties do not even come close. I
27:22
Speaker 1: I fully agree with you, Ariel. I think like I'm
27:24
Speaker 1: a curmudgeon, I'm a grouchy dude, and I'm I'm the
27:28
Speaker 1: grouchy dude who when I go to the theater, I
27:30
Speaker 1: hate it when someone is talking. I hate seeing that
27:33
Speaker 1: glow of someone's getting on their phone. You know, I'm
27:36
Speaker 1: the get off my lawn kind of guy. But I
27:39
Speaker 1: love it when a room full of people are immersed
27:45
Speaker 1: in the story and when something exciting happens there is
27:50
Speaker 1: a reaction in the audience that is it's a it's
27:53
Speaker 1: akin to the feeling you get at live theater right
27:56
Speaker 1: where people are having It's it's a relationship between what
28:00
Speaker 1: is going on in front of you and the audience. Now,
28:02
Speaker 1: in a film, it's weird because of course, the film
28:04
Speaker 1: can't react to what the way the audience is reacting.
28:07
Speaker 1: But it is one of those things that's really special.
28:10
Speaker 1: That communal feeling is something like some of my favorite
28:14
Speaker 1: memories that involved movies aren't about the film, but rather
28:19
Speaker 1: the experience of seeing the film in a full theater. Um.
28:23
Speaker 1: I think of Star Trek for the Voyage Home, which
28:26
Speaker 1: was the goofy Whales movie. You know, they go back
28:29
Speaker 1: into the eighties and they rescue some whales in that
28:31
Speaker 1: movie and Star Trek I saw that when it first
28:34
Speaker 1: came out in a room full of Star Trek geeks
28:38
Speaker 1: and the reactions because that that movie was so lighthearted
28:40
Speaker 1: and funny compared to the other Star Trek movies, it
28:43
Speaker 1: was such a huge surprise and people were so into
28:46
Speaker 1: it that it was it elevated the movie for me.
28:50
Speaker 1: So it is a really scary thing to think that
28:55
Speaker 1: that's an experience we may not be able to have
28:58
Speaker 1: for quite some time because even with things like rollouts
29:03
Speaker 1: for vaccines, even with continued pressure to make sure that
29:10
Speaker 1: people are are behaving responsibly, you know, there's just no
29:15
Speaker 1: way to I can't see a way for movie theaters
29:18
Speaker 1: to exist the way they used to. Moving forward, I
29:21
Speaker 1: think they're going to have to change, which, in turn,
29:26
Speaker 1: as you were pointing out, means the whole film industry
29:29
Speaker 1: has to change. Because if you can't do these ridiculously
29:33
Speaker 1: enormous budget films and expect to recoup those costs, that's
29:38
Speaker 1: gonna have to change the way movies are made. You're
29:40
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot fewer of those big tent pole
29:44
Speaker 1: blockbusters because there's just no way to make your money back.
29:49
Speaker 1: I mean. But on the other hand, if you think
29:51
Speaker 1: about it, For instance, quite a few of our more
29:55
Speaker 1: independent movie theaters, in a way to in Atlanta, in
29:57
Speaker 1: a way to make ends meet, have been converting to
30:00
Speaker 1: drive ins, so they'll have a few drive in movies
30:03
Speaker 1: each weekend, and then they have some some new movies
30:06
Speaker 1: and a lot of older movies that people really like
30:08
Speaker 1: and like to rewatch playing in their theaters. They can
30:10
Speaker 1: run out the theaters. You can have a private party
30:12
Speaker 1: still at a minimized capacity for an entire theater. So
30:16
Speaker 1: if you're entired, if you're the NBA team living in
30:19
Speaker 1: a bubble, you can have a theater together and watch
30:21
Speaker 1: a movie. But you might already have a movie theater
30:23
Speaker 1: in your bubble. I don't know. It's the NBA. I
30:25
Speaker 1: don't follow it. Uh, but you know a lot of
30:28
Speaker 1: them have turned to drive in movie theaters. So it's
30:30
Speaker 1: the way that you can pay. You can be in
30:32
Speaker 1: your car. You're kind of still isolated, but you can
30:35
Speaker 1: watch a movie. And drive ins were a thing of
30:40
Speaker 1: the past, and they're still around, only yeah, not nearly
30:43
Speaker 1: as many as there used to be. We do have
30:45
Speaker 1: a a fairly big one here in Atlanta called Starlight Um.
30:49
Speaker 1: That is, you know, they've often rented that space out
30:53
Speaker 1: for all sorts of stuff like like like like farmers
30:56
Speaker 1: markets and things and flea markets. But uh, you know
30:59
Speaker 1: a lot of those are even theaters that used to
31:01
Speaker 1: exist are have long since been bulldozed, but part of
31:06
Speaker 1: the pandemic, some of them are coming back. But I
31:08
Speaker 1: guess my point is, my hope is that that that community, once,
31:13
Speaker 1: once people are once we do have a vaccine, and
31:16
Speaker 1: once once we're used to the new normal and hopefully
31:20
Speaker 1: things are better, that people will still want that camaraderie
31:24
Speaker 1: and movie theaters will make a comeback. I feel like
31:28
Speaker 1: if we get to a point whereas the society we
31:30
Speaker 1: can be around each other safely again, and you know,
31:33
Speaker 1: I know that will take some time. I know a
31:35
Speaker 1: few people who are worried about first run vaccines and
31:38
Speaker 1: things like that. So even once we have one, it
31:41
Speaker 1: will take a while for it to get out to
31:43
Speaker 1: everybody and do its job, hopefully quicker than we're expecting.
31:47
Speaker 1: But but we don't know. But I have like my
31:49
Speaker 1: hope is that this time and isolation, this time apart
31:52
Speaker 1: in this time watching movies on demand will make people
31:55
Speaker 1: desire to be together in these situations more um in
32:00
Speaker 1: the future, and so I'm hoping it has to come back.
32:02
Speaker 1: I like going to the movie theater. I also am
32:04
Speaker 1: a curmuagtion about when people talk around on their cell phone.
32:07
Speaker 1: Uh I guess I hit that when I turned thirty.
32:09
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't mind if we had more theaters that
32:13
Speaker 1: had There's a lot I don't like about the Alamo Drafthouse.
32:16
Speaker 1: I will not get into all of that, this is
32:18
Speaker 1: not the time and place, but I will say I
32:20
Speaker 1: love their policy. They have a zero tolerance policy for
32:25
Speaker 1: people who are talking or texting or anything like that
32:28
Speaker 1: in a movie, and they will tell you to leave
32:30
Speaker 1: if you're doing it, and you know they want they
32:33
Speaker 1: want to preserve that movie going experience, and that's the
32:36
Speaker 1: sort of thing I like to see because it really
32:40
Speaker 1: does change your perception of the film and change your
32:44
Speaker 1: experience of watching it. And yes, it's nice to be
32:48
Speaker 1: able to see these stories at home, at your own
32:50
Speaker 1: convenience and be able to pause the film whenever you want,
32:53
Speaker 1: so you can go and you know, make a snack
32:55
Speaker 1: or go to the bathroom or whatever, and you're not
32:57
Speaker 1: missing anything. You don't have to come back and say,
32:59
Speaker 1: what's happened? Why is she talking to him? Now? You
33:01
Speaker 1: don't have to do any of those things. Um. But
33:04
Speaker 1: it's you lose so much, I mean just in the scale,
33:08
Speaker 1: the scope, especially for those those special effects heavy films. Um.
33:13
Speaker 1: And you lose that that feeling of sitting in a
33:16
Speaker 1: room with people, most of whom you don't know, and
33:20
Speaker 1: you're all experiencing the same thing and all having you know,
33:23
Speaker 1: these very human reactions. We we talked about on Business
33:28
Speaker 1: on the Brink how the millennial generation is much more
33:31
Speaker 1: focused on experience and things, yeah than things, And I
33:37
Speaker 1: feel like this is one that is an experience, you know.
33:40
Speaker 1: So I know that movie theaters have been declining for
33:43
Speaker 1: a while, but I I really hope we find a
33:46
Speaker 1: way to pivot back and make it work because and
33:48
Speaker 1: there are a lot of other things we didn't really
33:49
Speaker 1: touch on here. We're kind of out of time, but
33:53
Speaker 1: there's a there's a very complicated relationship between movie studios
33:57
Speaker 1: and cable companies because a lot of those have kind
34:00
Speaker 1: of merged together. You know, we mentioned Universal, they're part
34:04
Speaker 1: of NBC, which means if they wanted to, they could
34:07
Speaker 1: use Peacock, the streaming service for NBC, in a way
34:11
Speaker 1: very similar to the way Warner is using HBO Max. Right,
34:15
Speaker 1: we could start seeing more fragmentation like that, where we're
34:19
Speaker 1: going to see more and more subscription based services taking
34:24
Speaker 1: the place of things like the theatrical experience. That could
34:27
Speaker 1: be a future. It's not one I particularly want to see.
34:31
Speaker 1: But uh, this this is complicated stuff because those companies
34:35
Speaker 1: have all kind of merged into these mega communications and
34:39
Speaker 1: entertainment companies. And and it's funny to me because this
34:44
Speaker 1: is the same sort of thing that the US government
34:47
Speaker 1: previously attempted to prevent, Like there were rules in place
34:51
Speaker 1: where movie studios would not be allowed to own chains
34:54
Speaker 1: of theaters because it was anti competitive. But now we're
34:58
Speaker 1: seeing that exact same thing play out. Is just not
35:01
Speaker 1: movie theaters, it's in streaming services because it's cable companies
35:04
Speaker 1: and and there was no one to step in the
35:07
Speaker 1: way of any of that. Yeah. Yeah, But unfortunately we're
35:13
Speaker 1: out of time, so we can't dive further into that today.
35:16
Speaker 1: Maybe in the future. Okay, we've gotta we gotta mash
35:19
Speaker 1: up ahead of us. That's gonna be a lot of
35:21
Speaker 1: fun to chat about. The first I think we're gonna
35:24
Speaker 1: take a quick break and drown our sorrows, perhaps in
35:28
Speaker 1: some fruit punch and we're back Listen. We just had
35:48
Speaker 1: a Sonic the Hedgehog movie, and we're about to have
35:52
Speaker 1: a June movie. Look, I know they're both really old properties.
35:55
Speaker 1: We talked about Sonic on Business in the Brink and Dune.
35:59
Speaker 1: I don't remember when I first learned about it, because
36:02
Speaker 1: it was around. It's been around forever, not forever, but
36:05
Speaker 1: for a while. Um, but they're they're new again. So
36:08
Speaker 1: I wanted okay, I wanted to pick things that were
36:10
Speaker 1: relevant currently. Okay, so, uh, we would typically go do
36:15
Speaker 1: a rundown on what these are. So Dune being a
36:18
Speaker 1: famous science fiction uh epic series at this point, Frank
36:24
Speaker 1: Herbert creating it, and it's a a a series that
36:28
Speaker 1: begins with a character who inherits his father's legacy and
36:36
Speaker 1: his father himself has been essentially punished by being sent
36:40
Speaker 1: to lord over a desert planet called Aracus. But it's
36:45
Speaker 1: it's complicated politics and mythology. It's got this mixture of
36:52
Speaker 1: mysticism and science fiction, mobile Sarlax essentially yeah, yeah, sand
36:57
Speaker 1: words being the big famous image that you see, and
37:00
Speaker 1: it's influenced tons of stuff. It's been adapted into films
37:04
Speaker 1: in mini series before. The film often gets a lot
37:10
Speaker 1: of criticism. The original movie gets a lot of criticism,
37:14
Speaker 1: partly because a lot of the stuff that happens in
37:16
Speaker 1: the book has characters who are are thinking things through.
37:21
Speaker 1: So how do you portray that when it's a movie,
37:24
Speaker 1: because you can't, Like you could try and create dialogue,
37:27
Speaker 1: but that gets very artificial very quickly. So so there
37:32
Speaker 1: was a lot of voiceovers. There's a lot of voiceovers also.
37:35
Speaker 1: You know, as as an actor, I'm often told it's
37:38
Speaker 1: it's what you think between the lines that sells it.
37:41
Speaker 1: But you get tired of watching that much thinking yeah, yeah,
37:46
Speaker 1: you'd have characters essentially stop what they're doing for like
37:49
Speaker 1: forty five seconds, so that this monologue could be performed
37:53
Speaker 1: via voiceover while they were staring out at nothing. Do
37:57
Speaker 1: you do you like Dune? I do I do like Dune? Um?
38:02
Speaker 1: You know it's I'm not a I'm not a die
38:03
Speaker 1: hard Dune fan. But that's because when I was growing up,
38:07
Speaker 1: I I lean more towards fantasy than science fiction. The
38:11
Speaker 1: two were always grouped together in bookstores. But I was
38:15
Speaker 1: more of a fantasy guy. So again, token, I mean,
38:17
Speaker 1: I've got the token tattoo, etcetera, etcetera. But I have
38:22
Speaker 1: an appreciation for done, and there is a lot of
38:24
Speaker 1: fantasy in Dune as well. Like I think of it
38:27
Speaker 1: as science fiction, but if you actually read through it,
38:30
Speaker 1: there are a lot of fantastical elements, things, things that
38:34
Speaker 1: things that almost range towards magical. Um with the way
38:39
Speaker 1: those those that world plays out. Um Or are you
38:44
Speaker 1: are you a big fan of Dune? I am so.
38:48
Speaker 1: I watched I watched the original movie. That was my
38:50
Speaker 1: intro to it. I will just say way back when. Um,
38:53
Speaker 1: but I like it. I do like this story. I'm
38:56
Speaker 1: very excited about the new movie. It looks like it
38:58
Speaker 1: holds pretty true to the book, which is something we
39:00
Speaker 1: have talked about in past podcasts by saying that five
39:04
Speaker 1: times fast or just once for me? Yeah, yeah, for
39:08
Speaker 1: me obviously too. Or I'm sure we'll talk about it
39:12
Speaker 1: again in the future as well, because it's it's something
39:14
Speaker 1: that constantly comes up in the geek sphere, right right.
39:18
Speaker 1: How do you how do you adapt things that were
39:20
Speaker 1: in one medium for another, and how do you satisfy
39:24
Speaker 1: not just the fans of the original, but how do
39:28
Speaker 1: you bring new fans in who are unfamiliar with the
39:31
Speaker 1: stuff This is really We will do episodes where we
39:35
Speaker 1: dive into that because that is a big, heavy, like
39:37
Speaker 1: complicated topic. Yeah, so, so I am and I don't mind.
39:41
Speaker 1: I don't mind when movies veer from the books because
39:45
Speaker 1: sometimes they need to. But as you said, like with
39:48
Speaker 1: the thinking, um, I am a fan of Dune. I
39:50
Speaker 1: am more of a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog movie,
39:54
Speaker 1: Holy coll the game. The game, I haven't full disclos sure,
40:00
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the movie. It actually got better reviews
40:02
Speaker 1: than I expected it to. The bim Bam boys had
40:05
Speaker 1: some interesting funny things to say about it. I think
40:08
Speaker 1: they said it on The Besties, though I don't think
40:09
Speaker 1: it was I would saying I don't I don't recall
40:12
Speaker 1: I'm not one caught up on on their series, but
40:16
Speaker 1: I don't recall them talking about it. I think it
40:18
Speaker 1: was the best ties um just Justin and Griffin. But yeah, yeah,
40:23
Speaker 1: I agree, I saw I also have not seen it
40:27
Speaker 1: full disclosure, but I've seen reviews about that. But we
40:31
Speaker 1: were really basing it more on Sonic the Hedgehog, the
40:36
Speaker 1: character in general, and yeah, it's a game series, it's
40:39
Speaker 1: been around for many years out of Sega, and of
40:43
Speaker 1: course he Sonic was a direct response to to Mario
40:47
Speaker 1: kind of and give him a literal run for his money. Yeah,
40:51
Speaker 1: they need they needed, they needed to have a a
40:54
Speaker 1: video game iconic character to help the Sega brand, and
41:00
Speaker 1: Sonic ended up being it a blue Hedgehog who runs
41:03
Speaker 1: really fast and has a perpetual arch nemesis in the
41:07
Speaker 1: form of Dr Eggman, who turns poor little cute little
41:12
Speaker 1: animals into robots. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually when you it's
41:18
Speaker 1: actually when you really look at at the what's going
41:22
Speaker 1: on in Sonic that you realize, like, wow, this is
41:25
Speaker 1: like some Cronenberg level horror stuff going on here. Don't
41:29
Speaker 1: say that I don't like horror, but the thing I
41:32
Speaker 1: like about Sonic is because you spin and then you
41:35
Speaker 1: just spin as a as as the character, and it
41:39
Speaker 1: is certainly a difficult game, especially when you get to
41:41
Speaker 1: the higher levels. But I I am horrible at jumping
41:45
Speaker 1: from platform into platform like you do with Mario, and
41:48
Speaker 1: I like Mario, but you can skip a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of that if you're good at Sonic. You just spin
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Speaker 1: right over it and then you're at the end of
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Speaker 1: the level. So yeah, I am also not particularly strong
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Speaker 1: at plat formers. So while I think some people might
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Speaker 1: view this, at least the early Sonic games as being
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Speaker 1: a platform er with training wheels, I don't mind having
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Speaker 1: training wheels if it means I get to learn how
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Speaker 1: to play. Uh So, um, I have a pitch for
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Speaker 1: Sonic Hedgehog Meats done. You're ready? I actually wrote this
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Speaker 1: one down. Here we go. So Sonic atreyad S is
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Speaker 1: a young Hedgehog noble who gets plopped down on the
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Speaker 1: planet Aracus while he's enjoying a spicy chili dog boosted
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Speaker 1: by a bit of milange in the Chili spice. An
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Speaker 1: armed force under the command of the evil baron Dr
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Speaker 1: Vladimir robot Nick Sonics family is whited out, but Sonic
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Speaker 1: escapes into the desert wasteland when he discovers that the
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Speaker 1: milange has given him the ability, nay, the compulsion to
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Speaker 1: run fast. Gotta go fast, he says a lot, and
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Speaker 1: he runs out from the dangers of a military takeover
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Speaker 1: into the dangers a desert filled with sandworms, and there
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Speaker 1: he discovers a brave indigenous force and a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of sand worms and a love of gold rings. For
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Speaker 1: some reason, I still need to work that part out,
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Speaker 1: the gold rings I'm having I'm having trouble working the
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Speaker 1: gold rings in Okay, okay, so that um, that brings
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Speaker 1: me to my pitch, which flat out not as good
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Speaker 1: as yours way to mesh all those characters together. But okay,
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Speaker 1: so polish radius, who's the main character of Dude is
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Speaker 1: with the Benny Jester and he has to stick his
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Speaker 1: hand and essentially what I remember as being the same
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Speaker 1: as the boo box from Hook Yes, the pain box
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Speaker 1: or you don't know what's in it, And he pulls
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Speaker 1: out his hand and on each finger is a gold ring,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there is a rumble under
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Speaker 1: the ground as these five gold rings called this horrible
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Speaker 1: creature to him, and you just see the sand he's
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Speaker 1: he's staring out into the desert as the sand is
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Speaker 1: flying everywhere, and mountains crumble on either side of this
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Speaker 1: huge mound that is spinning towards him, and out pops
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Speaker 1: this giant rays or toothed, blue, giant hedgehog whose nose
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Speaker 1: could swallow you. Not his mouth, no, his nose, because
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Speaker 1: he is that big. I'm sorry, I'm sad, I'm yelling
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Speaker 1: into the microphone. Sorry, everybody. And then he asked for
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Speaker 1: a chili dog. So so in your version of Dune
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Speaker 1: meats Sonic the hedgehog, Sonic is a sandworm. He is,
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Speaker 1: and it's very anti quobatic. That's but it's really exciting.
44:33
Speaker 1: Like I, I legit had not thought of that as
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Speaker 1: a possibility, you know. That's that's honestly what made me
44:39
Speaker 1: want to do. I was like, Sonic was recent Une
44:43
Speaker 1: side could be a sandworm. I like that. You made
44:46
Speaker 1: the chili dog the spice. I may have I might
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Speaker 1: have stole that a little bit from you, but we didn't.
44:52
Speaker 1: We didn't even mention that the in Dune there's this
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Speaker 1: um the substance on Aracus in particular, called spice, which
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Speaker 1: can be refined into a drug called milange, and that
45:06
Speaker 1: has different different effects on people. But that's why I
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Speaker 1: was like, what if the milange chili dog is what
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Speaker 1: gives Sonic the ability to run fast? Yes? Yes, uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: which I think was more of a thing in the
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Speaker 1: cartoon and maybe the movie than the video game by far.
45:27
Speaker 1: The cartoon was a lot of fun. You guys, it's
45:29
Speaker 1: it's old. I don't know if it holds up, but
45:31
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun at the time. Yeah,
45:32
Speaker 1: So that's kind of an example of the sort of
45:35
Speaker 1: mashups will do. We did one, uh did we? Was
45:38
Speaker 1: that just a test where we did Willy Wonka and
45:41
Speaker 1: the Candy Man and that one turned out great. Well,
45:45
Speaker 1: maybe we'll be able to revisit it, because while those
45:48
Speaker 1: things were supposed to come out at least I think
45:49
Speaker 1: Candyman was supposed to come out around this time and
45:53
Speaker 1: I was hoping to get it out for Halloween. Um,
45:58
Speaker 1: because of pandemic, everything's been pushed back. So the news
46:01
Speaker 1: at the time was that, uh, as we all know,
46:04
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll definitely talk about this more in depth
46:06
Speaker 1: in the future. Jordan Peel is remaking the old horror
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Speaker 1: movie candy Man um to be a little bit more
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Speaker 1: poignant today's issues, although it was at the time as
46:14
Speaker 1: well just really yeah, really a kind of a forward
46:19
Speaker 1: thinking horror movie at the time. Yeah, so he's but
46:22
Speaker 1: he's bringing it back around from all of the sequels
46:25
Speaker 1: to its original form. And then uh, also at the time,
46:29
Speaker 1: it had been announced that Netflix was going to do
46:32
Speaker 1: a role doll series. Uh so, hence that mash up,
46:36
Speaker 1: we might bring it back because neither of those things
46:38
Speaker 1: have actually come out yet, so uh, I don't want
46:43
Speaker 1: to want to spoil what we came up with for that. Um.
46:46
Speaker 1: But this next part is new because when we were
46:50
Speaker 1: doing the mashups as movies as site gags, we couldn't
46:54
Speaker 1: ask you guys, what what you would have done in
46:56
Speaker 1: the mash up. But if you just listened to Sonic
46:59
Speaker 1: and Dune and we're like, huh, I think I could
47:03
Speaker 1: do better, which which we do not dispute, Yeah, right us,
47:10
Speaker 1: and tell us how you would mash us two up.
47:12
Speaker 1: I mean we might even read it on the air,
47:14
Speaker 1: as opposed to just reading it and going dang, why
47:16
Speaker 1: are they so creative? Right? And also the same thing
47:20
Speaker 1: is true for if there are either discussion topics within
47:23
Speaker 1: the Gego sphere that you feel really merit a kind
47:27
Speaker 1: of you know, conversation and maybe debate. Uh, it could
47:32
Speaker 1: be anything within the Gego sphere, everything from you know,
47:35
Speaker 1: the the adaptations. We've got a planned episode coming up
47:38
Speaker 1: about the use of nostalgia as a jumping off point
47:43
Speaker 1: that I have a lot of feelings about and a
47:44
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about. I think it will be a
47:46
Speaker 1: multipart discussion because there's lots of facets to it as well.
47:49
Speaker 1: That's true. And then there's also if you have suggestions
47:53
Speaker 1: for mashups those that's another great thing to get in
47:56
Speaker 1: touch with us about. Like if there's two properties that
48:00
Speaker 1: preferably properties that are not that at least on the
48:03
Speaker 1: surface similar to one another. If it's two things that
48:06
Speaker 1: are really close to each other, there might not be
48:08
Speaker 1: a whole lot of material to work with, but we'll
48:11
Speaker 1: we'll give it a shot. But all of those things
48:13
Speaker 1: are the sort of things will be looking out for
48:16
Speaker 1: if you do have an idea that you would like
48:17
Speaker 1: us to know about. One way to get in touch
48:19
Speaker 1: with us right now, while we still establish our presence
48:23
Speaker 1: online is on Twitter. On Twitter, we are Ellen c
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Speaker 1: Underscore podcast, and so you can send us a tweet
48:31
Speaker 1: or a d M there and we'll make sure our
48:33
Speaker 1: d M s are open for that, and that would
48:36
Speaker 1: be one way to get in touch with us. We
48:39
Speaker 1: also have an Instagram account, so you can message us
48:41
Speaker 1: there as well. Yes, and we are also on Facebook,
48:44
Speaker 1: which I checked pretty regularly, so you can message us
48:47
Speaker 1: there as well. That one, that one is all up
48:49
Speaker 1: to arial because I ditched it all the social media's
48:55
Speaker 1: one thing or about at the large New Drunk Collider
48:57
Speaker 1: podcast that we didn't talk about that I do want
48:59
Speaker 1: to end with is that, you know, geeks are very
49:01
Speaker 1: very passionate, and you can be opinionated about something and
49:06
Speaker 1: still be kind to people who have different opinions in you.
49:08
Speaker 1: So be nice. We're open to even even if you
49:12
Speaker 1: want to send constructive criticism, We're open to that. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:17
Speaker 1: Our our opinion is that that we can love something,
49:21
Speaker 1: we can critique that's something, but there's no need to
49:25
Speaker 1: get mean about it. And that uh you know, there
49:29
Speaker 1: if I get into a conversation with someone who genuinely
49:32
Speaker 1: loves the Star Wars prequels, uh, I can be of
49:38
Speaker 1: the right temperament to accept that they hold an opinion
49:43
Speaker 1: that is very different from mine, but that does not
49:46
Speaker 1: make that opinion less valid even though they're wrong. We're
49:50
Speaker 1: going to talk about that in an upcoming episode, so
49:53
Speaker 1: don't spoil it yet, Jonathan, Okay, fair, fair enough. I
49:56
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think I tipped my hand too
49:58
Speaker 1: much about my future. Now you didn't, you didn't. But
50:02
Speaker 1: before we get into territory where we're a two hour
50:04
Speaker 1: episode again, I think we should sign off for this one.
50:07
Speaker 1: So yes, we look forward to conversing with you about
50:11
Speaker 1: all things geeky in the future. We will have uh
50:14
Speaker 1: several episodes ready to go right at the beginning, so
50:17
Speaker 1: chances are if you want to dive into more, you
50:21
Speaker 1: got it just a click away, and every week we'll
50:24
Speaker 1: be bringing you fresh new geekiness. So we look forward
50:27
Speaker 1: to chatting with you again really soon. Yes, until next time.
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