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The No Dribble Coxless Pair talk all things sport and sunshine · No Dribble

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Speaker 1: Okay, the netball world is ours away from welcoming a
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Speaker 1: new centurion. Now I don't know what's going on. We
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Speaker 1: have Kate Maloney celebrating her fiftie is by playing wing defense.
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Speaker 1: Caura Conan's going to be celebrating her fiftieth this week.
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Speaker 1: Maybe she'll be coaching. Who knows what we will see
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Speaker 1: Liz Watson doing for her one hundredth. It's a crazy world.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of network to talk about, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of life to talk about.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to No Dribbles.
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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
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Speaker 1: talk about netball, but we talk about so much more.
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Speaker 1: And there's just two of us doing so much more
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Speaker 1: talking this week because Catherine's on a plane.
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Speaker 3: A likely story anyway. Hello, Hello, Hello, Liz Ellis, Hello
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Speaker 3: Carolyn Swindell. It's love to have you joined me on
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Speaker 3: the podcast that really sort of runs itself.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't it. It's funny, isn't it. You and I mostly
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Speaker 1: talk in this so when when we have a social
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Speaker 1: chat like we did on the phone the other day,
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Speaker 1: it takes us a while to realize, oh no, we're
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Speaker 1: not doing a podcast at the moment. We're just chatting
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Speaker 1: as friends. But here we're doing we're locking in.
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Speaker 3: We are we are. How's your week been. It's been good.
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Speaker 1: Up, you know, there's been a lot of netballon that's
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Speaker 1: been very exciting. It is I've done something very virtuous
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Speaker 1: in the last week, very grown up. It is very
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Speaker 1: in cancer Awareness month and I have been to have
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Speaker 1: my annual internal ultrasound, which, as we know, well it's
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Speaker 1: a very fun thing that the grown ups do. But
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Speaker 1: I arrived, and I arrived right on time. And you know,
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Speaker 1: any medical but you know, you take stuff with you
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Speaker 1: because you know that they will make you wait. I
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Speaker 1: arrived for ready for this appointment. It was a midday appointment.
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Speaker 1: I arrived at one minute past twelve because they've changed
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Speaker 1: in the hospital. They've changed how you get from the
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Speaker 1: car park up to this point. And the woman said
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Speaker 1: to me, okay, well, look, you've just made it so
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Speaker 1: what I would mean, I've just made it so my
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Speaker 1: grace period on a medical appointment is somewhat south of
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Speaker 1: ninety seconds, but yours can be ninety minutes.
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Speaker 3: It's an outrage that is so outrageous, like when does
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Speaker 3: that ever happen? And when are these specialists ever on
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Speaker 3: time anyway.
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Speaker 1: You just made it. But I did flag something there.
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Speaker 1: I had I reckon you, and I might almost come
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Speaker 1: to blows about connections this week the New York Times
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Speaker 1: game was not words, it was symbols, and I think
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Speaker 1: that is an outrage. And I've registered my complaint with
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Speaker 1: the New York Times Games Instagram account, and Julie Fitzgerald,
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Speaker 1: for one, is in violent agreement with me. But you went, oh,
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Speaker 1: it was really fun.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I liked it, Like that's the whole point of
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Speaker 3: connections is to warp your brain so you have to
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Speaker 3: think of things in a different way. I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 3: Got I think I got one wrong and then I
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Speaker 3: got them all out. How did you get it? Did
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Speaker 3: you get it out? No? No, I couldn't.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't get it out. I was yeah, maybe I was
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Speaker 1: too outraged. I take your point that the whole reason
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Speaker 1: we do it is this kind of mental gymnastics type
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Speaker 1: thing to stay fit. But it's like, I like connections
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Speaker 1: to be connections. I like pips to be pips. I
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Speaker 1: like wordle to be wordle. And I've just i've my
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Speaker 1: subscriber now so I get the full cross word. And
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Speaker 1: that is a cracker for when you have a long wait,
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Speaker 1: perhaps at a medical.
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Speaker 3: And a medical appointment.
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Speaker 4: Oh no.
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Speaker 3: And the thing with that with the symbols one the
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Speaker 3: other day is you had to be really literal, like
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Speaker 3: it was some faces of a die and let us
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Speaker 3: in the apple bit. And once I worke that out,
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, this is sweet, all good. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I didn't work that out in time. I thought it
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Speaker 1: was still going to be quite oblique. Anyway, I'm outraged,
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Speaker 1: but I'll process that.
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Speaker 3: And move on. I guess. So how does your working Well,
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Speaker 3: I'll get to my week in a second, But how
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Speaker 3: did you go just out? And did you win? Well?
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Speaker 1: Apparently I passed. You know, my GPS said everything's looking
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Speaker 1: fine in there.
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Speaker 3: I thought, fine, come.
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Speaker 1: On, surely magnificent is the word we're looking at when
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Speaker 1: we're described.
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Speaker 3: I'm slightly used is another way to describe it. Oh
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Speaker 3: that's so harsh. That is hard.
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Speaker 1: But I went in had the older sentiment to drink
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of water beforehand, so the bladder is full.
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Speaker 3: I hadn't drunk enough water.
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Speaker 1: Then she sent me back out to sit in the
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Speaker 1: waiting room and drink some more water than do some
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Speaker 1: more more crosswords. So I failed on one front, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: then went back in for it, went back in for
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Speaker 1: a second go because that's what you want. You really
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Speaker 1: want that to have false starts and multiple guys. But
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Speaker 1: I'm done for another year.
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Speaker 3: Oh well done, well done. It's not the sort of
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Speaker 3: exam that Coxie would cope with if she had to
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Speaker 3: drink and then wait and then drink some more. She
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Speaker 3: is I think I think we've deconstructed her bloody here before.
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Speaker 3: She's unbelievable. I've never been anyone who wheathed so much anyway.
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Speaker 1: But it is very good if you're in any way
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Speaker 1: neurotic or I don't have like an elevated family risker
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Speaker 1: or anything about ivarian cancer, but I just you know.
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Speaker 1: It is ivarian cancer Awareness month. It is one of
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Speaker 1: the lowest survival rates of any cancers, often because by
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Speaker 1: the time you have symptoms, it's very advanced. So highly
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Speaker 1: recommend everyone go along Ritchie teeth lie back, think of
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Speaker 1: England and make sure you drink your water in advance
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Speaker 1: and apparently get there at least a minute before your
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Speaker 1: appointment time.
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Speaker 3: That is unheard of. Is it expensive? You have to
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Speaker 3: pay more because it's because you don't have any risks
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Speaker 3: or anything. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there were out of pockets like a couple
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Speaker 1: of hundred bucks.
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Speaker 3: So it's not yet. I was reading about the fast
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Speaker 3: evolution of DNA testing the other day and genetic testing
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Speaker 3: and how them talking about doing more genetic testing of
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Speaker 3: babies so that they can pick up anythings that any
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Speaker 3: diseases that they might have or issues that they might have.
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Speaker 3: And I was just as you were talking about that,
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Speaker 3: and you know, you're going to get that ultrasound done
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Speaker 3: for you had just to be sure about ovarian cancer.
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Speaker 3: It's a really fascinating areas. I know there's got nothing
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Speaker 3: to do with netball, but it is really interesting. I
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Speaker 3: wonder if there's a netball gene, you know, tall, yeah,
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Speaker 3: preciously tall, fast, a little bit nuts, excellent ball skills. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's probably the next frontier, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: Trying to Yeah, so programming people to be better athletes.
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Speaker 3: I think that.
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Speaker 1: Well, there was a there was a story in the
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Speaker 1: Good Weekend about that, you know, this drug Olympics that
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Speaker 1: they've that they're trying to run out. It's like you
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Speaker 1: do whatever you want with your bodies, and it's like
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Speaker 1: in principle. That's a kind of funny idea, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: But it's actually, God, what are you doing to yourself?
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Speaker 1: And it's a you know, it's a long life to lead,
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Speaker 1: and if you're going to inject a whole lot of
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Speaker 1: stuff into your body in order to perform a particular
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Speaker 1: way in one particular sporting contest, I just I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's grossly responsible.
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Speaker 3: That's interesting, isn't it. I saw I did read an
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Speaker 3: interview a while ago with James Magnuson about it and
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Speaker 3: what he was sort of doing to himself. And I
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Speaker 3: get from athletes's point of view, the fascination is about
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Speaker 3: what can I do? How far can I push my body?
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Speaker 3: And it was actually this morning, I was just watching
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Speaker 3: the stuff from overnight from the Olympics, and I saw
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Speaker 3: Lindsay vonn crash out and there was a bit of
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Speaker 3: passionate about her with acl And I want to talk
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Speaker 3: about that a little bit later in the show, and
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Speaker 3: about what goes through your mind as an athlete. But
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Speaker 3: I think sometimes the things that make you a great
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Speaker 3: athlete are also the things that make you a great
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Speaker 3: risk taker. So those athletes still are sort of trying
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Speaker 3: to compete in the drag Olympics. I don't condone it,
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Speaker 3: but I can see, sort of obliquely, if I squint
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Speaker 3: and come from the side what they're trying to do.
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Speaker 1: I can completely see it. And when you looked at
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Speaker 1: those pictures of James Magnuson, what happened to his body
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Speaker 1: was just extraordinary.
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Speaker 3: But it's like the head injury stuff in footing.
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Speaker 1: You know, you ask a eighteen to twenty year old
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Speaker 1: guy who's had a concussion, do you want to go
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Speaker 1: back on?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I want to go back on.
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Speaker 1: And that's why we have to have rules to go well,
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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to and they're not allowed to take
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Speaker 1: your word for it and say you're okay. We have
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Speaker 1: to have these external things that go they're a concussion protocols.
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Speaker 1: Actually doesn't matter how you're feeling. If this is what's occurred,
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Speaker 1: you need to go and be properly checked because you
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Speaker 1: know this is life threatening stuff, but you don't. It's
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Speaker 1: like asking someone to talk about this super when they're eighteen.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, I'm never going to die,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, well, none of us are ever going
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Speaker 1: to die until the point that we go, oh, actually, sit,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to die one day too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, actually, I had this conversation with Evlyan recently
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Speaker 3: because she's she's fourteen, and last year she played in
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Speaker 3: the under fourteens locally, she played rugby and there was
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Speaker 3: her and one other girl on the team, and I
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Speaker 3: watched through the course of the year as their opponents
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Speaker 3: and teammates got bigger and bigger and turned into young men.
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Speaker 3: And then this year she wanted to play in the
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Speaker 3: under fifteens and I put my foot down and said absolutely,
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Speaker 3: no way. And her coach was like, said to me, messages, please, please,
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Speaker 3: and she was begging me, and I was like, you
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Speaker 3: are not playing against fifteen year old men for a
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Speaker 3: whole host of reasons, but not the least of which
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Speaker 3: is that you have the ability to get to have
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Speaker 3: a serious concussion because they are so much bigger and
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Speaker 3: stronger than you. And we all think it was a
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Speaker 3: good reminder for me because we all think that everyone
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Speaker 3: knows about the CTE risk, but it hadn't even registered
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Speaker 3: with her. And then I sat her down and talked
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Speaker 3: to her about concussion and the risk of ct and
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Speaker 3: she was like, oh oh, and It's it's funny, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: Like you just unless you actually have that really direct conversation,
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Speaker 3: you can't be certain that the kids understand that risk. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: she's not playing under fifteen, Drugy. She can play sevens
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Speaker 3: with girls and she's going to play a tournament in April,
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Speaker 3: but she's not playing with the boys.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's that's smart. It's interesting
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Speaker 1: to that the MAVs played the Victorian men on the
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Speaker 1: weekend and you know they they were down JLP, but
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Speaker 1: only down JLP. Like this is a good team in
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Speaker 1: Otari Henchcliffe by Riley Batcheldor, Amy Parmenter, Unique Polavi, like
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Speaker 1: Shamana Nelson, Maddy hay Back, Nice to see Maddy hay Back.
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Speaker 1: You know, a really good team. This is by no
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Speaker 1: mean a second string team. And the Victorian men beat
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Speaker 1: them sixty six to forty one. And I remember cath
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Speaker 1: telling me that you guys used to play against the
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Speaker 1: men's team then you could never win. And it's like
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Speaker 1: it's just you know, a difference in the size and
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Speaker 1: the speed and the strength, and you know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: very significant. From about the age of sort of thirteen
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Speaker 1: fourteen on m Yeah.
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Speaker 3: When those boys get going, they they do, their growth
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Speaker 3: happens and they become young men. Now, speaking of boys,
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Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about just a little
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Speaker 3: bit of sad news. Actually, my family, because it helps
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Speaker 3: me cook better, are a fan of recue he eats.
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Speaker 3: And did you see that that Dozer died this week?
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Speaker 3: So I did make who is Yeah? So really sad.
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Speaker 3: I now have a dilemma about whether I actually tell
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Speaker 3: my son because we've got I've got the book, the
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Speaker 3: Dinner Book for Christmas, and my son is a he
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Speaker 3: doesn't like things to be all mixed up in his food.
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Speaker 3: He likes protein and that he likes hell hates el
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Speaker 3: all the vegetables, but they have to all be separate.
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Speaker 3: And he doesn't like it when I make bolonaise, and
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Speaker 3: he knows the vegetables are in there somewhere, but he
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Speaker 3: doesn't like it when he can see them and the
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Speaker 3: texture is a bit different. And so but I've been
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Speaker 3: going through the recipes with him in this in this
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Speaker 3: dinner book to figure out, Okay, what do you want
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Speaker 3: to try? And he's actually been trying. And part of
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Speaker 3: that is because there's Dozer the dog all the way through,
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, don't what he doesn't know is
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Speaker 3: at labradors et anything. So I've got this real dilemma
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Speaker 3: about about telling Ustin and I think I've got a
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Speaker 3: bit of PTSD. So when we were traveling around Australia,
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Speaker 3: when we got to the Dampier Peninsula, I said to Matthew,
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Speaker 3: let's have a movie night and let's watch Red Dog. Right,
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Speaker 3: great Australia movie. It's about a dog who travels all around,
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Speaker 3: but he's based in that Dampier Peninsula area, right, so
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Speaker 3: that's sort of where he's the whole perfect fit. Yep,
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Speaker 3: perfect fit. So we watch it. I didn't think about
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Speaker 3: how it ended. At the end of the movie, Red
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Speaker 3: Dog dies. I'm sorry to I should say spoiler alert there,
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Speaker 3: but this movie is fourteen years old and I know
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Speaker 3: that because I thought what I was pregnant with Evelyn,
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Speaker 3: and I thought I was just overly emotional. But maybe
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Speaker 3: there's something in it. So when Red Dog died in
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Speaker 3: the movie, I had seen it before, so I was okay.
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Speaker 3: Matthew is a farmer, so he was okay. My kids
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Speaker 3: were hysterical, like crying, not just tear. Yeah, sobbing uncontrollably,
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Speaker 3: which is beautiful except for the fact that we were
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Speaker 3: in a caravan park and we were cheek by jow
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Speaker 3: with the hype about the caravan.
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Speaker 1: So, ha, what is happening to those children next door?
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Speaker 3: Do we need to call someone? So somebody one of
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Speaker 3: their old and there was and this caravan park, like
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Speaker 3: there was quite a few old is there. And after
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Speaker 3: about fifteen minutes of the kids howling, this old a
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Speaker 3: gentleman knocked on the door and he said, everything, It's
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Speaker 3: everything okay, And I was laughing but trying not to
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Speaker 3: let the kids see me laughing. But I was like,
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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, but my kids have just watched Red
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Speaker 3: Dog and the Donda. So next to day, all these
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Speaker 3: people where the caravan park were looking at us like
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Speaker 3: we were there was something wrong with our parenting skills,
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Speaker 3: like our children were howling and it lasted for nearly
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Speaker 3: an hour and they finally both sold themselves to sleep.
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Speaker 3: So I'm really torn now about whether to tell Ustin
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Speaker 3: about Dozer.
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Speaker 1: So can I help you put this into perspective? So
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Speaker 1: I am an animal lover. I've had pets in the past.
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Speaker 1: The grief is absolutely real when you lose a pet.
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Speaker 1: This dog was fourteen years old. That is long past
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Speaker 1: the natural life expectancy. For I thought it was a
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Speaker 1: Golden Retriever. It's a Labrador. I don't quite know what
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Speaker 1: the Labrador life expectancy is.
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Speaker 3: But I still had a very good.
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Speaker 1: Long life and this happens, you know, I thought. There
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Speaker 1: is an obituary on the front page of the Sydney
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Speaker 1: Morning Herald for this dog. And I'm wondering whether we
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Speaker 1: might not have our priorities right.
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Speaker 3: That's a society there is that I've even seen that
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Speaker 3: I haven't even thought about that. Oh I'm caring about
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Speaker 3: is how do I break it to Austin, Yeah, that
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Speaker 3: those has gone. I hadn't thought about the widest society,
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Speaker 3: like what the what does it tell us about what's
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Speaker 3: going on in society? But I can't even think about that.
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Speaker 3: All I can think about how do I tell Austin. Look,
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Speaker 3: I love the way that you explained it, then, as
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Speaker 3: if you know very logically and rationally, yes, Dose has
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Speaker 3: had a good life, feel as much loved, he had
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Speaker 3: all the nice food, he lived longer than most dogs.
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Speaker 3: A nine year old boy doesn't care about that.
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Speaker 1: No, I completely accept that, and and people who are
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Speaker 1: in an animal don't think that way either, and that
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Speaker 1: nor should they in that moment of grief.
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Speaker 3: But it is a yeah, I'm.
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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised at the level of response to
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Speaker 1: this that is going on at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Well, maybe the world needs some good news stories and
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Speaker 3: those are bought the good news. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: As I said, I do acknowledge it is very real
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Speaker 1: grief when you lose a pet, which is why I'm
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Speaker 1: not currently in the pet owning business, because it's like,
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Speaker 1: oh is hard.
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's so hard. And we have a beautiful border
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Speaker 3: Collie and he's a little bit blonde, so I can
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Speaker 3: see that the attraction with Austin with Dozer because he
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Speaker 3: and I were best friends. So I was like, Okay, anyway,
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Speaker 3: that's that's my dilemma for this week of how to
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Speaker 3: break that news. I think I'll just break it very gently.
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Speaker 3: I don't think I'll slam the Sydney Morning held down
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Speaker 3: in front of it and say read that.
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Speaker 1: No, I've got the exact solution for you. This is
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Speaker 1: a Matthew job.
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Speaker 3: This is a jump for the meg tray, step in
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Speaker 3: meg tray.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, good luck with that report. Back to us
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Speaker 1: please and let us know. But I do like how
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Speaker 1: you've already mentioned the caravan again. There were questions last
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Speaker 1: week has no dribble morphed into a caravan and camping show,
15:29
Speaker 1: because we did spend quite a lot of time last
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Speaker 1: week learning about what it's like to live in a caravan,
15:35
Speaker 1: and so this is no dribble. We talk about netball,
15:38
Speaker 1: We talk about caravan and camping and pretty much not
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Speaker 1: much else.
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Speaker 3: Now in the Venn diagram of like caravan and camping
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Speaker 3: and netball podcast, this is it.
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Speaker 1: This is the if your niche, you are in exactly
15:52
Speaker 1: the right place.
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Speaker 3: We'll now have an audience of three.
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Speaker 5: Oh well, and they're very well. And what's great about
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Speaker 5: it is of the three hosts, there's only one of
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Speaker 5: them who have any interest in quite a lot of that.
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Speaker 5: Catherine and I Insta are sitting there going.
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Speaker 3: You do what.
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Speaker 1: I watched a show over the summer and it's on
16:14
Speaker 1: Netflix and it's called train Wreck Poop Cruise. And I
16:18
Speaker 1: know Catherine seen it because I put something on Instagram going, oh,
16:21
Speaker 1: this is everything you think will be terrible about going
16:25
Speaker 1: could be terrible about going on a cruise ship happens
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Speaker 1: in this one hour documentary. And you know, sometimes you
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Speaker 1: watch something on TV and you go, that's.
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Speaker 3: Why we watch TV.
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Speaker 1: This moment that I am sharing with my family as
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Speaker 1: we are sitting here mouths agape with extraordinary charden Ford,
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Speaker 1: we are totally enjoying watching the discomfort of all of
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Speaker 1: these people with their hangovers, having to deal with this
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Speaker 1: floundering cruise ship in the Gulf of Mexico that no
16:55
Speaker 1: one dies. It's all, you know, but it is. It's
16:59
Speaker 1: well worth watching. It is an hour of going, thank God,
17:03
Speaker 1: that's not me.
17:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, I suspect there are a few dribblers
17:09
Speaker 3: last week going thank God that's not me when I
17:11
Speaker 3: was talking about having to carry the web bottle.
17:26
Speaker 1: All right, Well, there has been quite a lot of
17:28
Speaker 1: net but we've already started talking about network. We've already
17:30
Speaker 1: flagged some of this. You want to talk about ACLS.
17:33
Speaker 1: I'm interested in talking about ACLS too. We've talked about
17:36
Speaker 1: the maps playing the Victorian Men. What we haven't talked
17:38
Speaker 1: about is two very interesting netball tests and we're a
17:42
Speaker 1: third coming up hot on the heels of this podcast
17:45
Speaker 1: being released this week.
17:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Australia playing Jamaica two tests down, the day
17:51
Speaker 3: that this podcast comes out, there'll be another test that night.
17:55
Speaker 3: Jamaica without a number of its superstars. So yeah, it
17:59
Speaker 3: was last night. I was sitting watching the game and
18:02
Speaker 3: there was Genille Fallon Nmbard and Ramelda Aike and George
18:05
Speaker 3: sitting on the sideline and you just wonder how different
18:09
Speaker 3: would be if they were playing. Of course, Shimi is
18:12
Speaker 3: selling Humphies as well, so I think when you watch
18:16
Speaker 3: that Jamaican team in action, there were really good glipses,
18:19
Speaker 3: really like Giselle Allison, their goal shooter who played in
18:22
Speaker 3: the first half last night, and I thought she was strong.
18:26
Speaker 3: I think that there's like it is interesting, right, Jamaica
18:29
Speaker 3: have just had a habit of turning out these unbelievably talented, tall,
18:32
Speaker 3: strong goal shooters.
18:35
Speaker 1: That's where the genetic testing should start looking, because they've
18:39
Speaker 1: whatever it is, they're nailing it.
18:41
Speaker 3: Yep, they're nailing it. You know. Back when I played
18:43
Speaker 3: the first time against Jamaica back in nineteen ninety five
18:47
Speaker 3: and in the ninety one World Cup, I was the
18:49
Speaker 3: first one I watched, there was a goal shooter whose
18:51
Speaker 3: name was cricket Patricia mcdonnard. I think she was and
18:54
Speaker 3: she was amazing tall, like, and she was like the
18:56
Speaker 3: prototype and they just churned out the factory afterwards and
18:59
Speaker 3: they keep getting better and better. So I really liked
19:02
Speaker 3: like just seeing you know, what else was in Jamaica
19:05
Speaker 3: and what else is coming out. It was great to
19:07
Speaker 3: see Shenez Speckford back in a goal attack.
19:09
Speaker 1: She did a great job, I thought, really great leading
19:12
Speaker 1: from the front in both games.
19:14
Speaker 3: Just yeah, yeah, I thought she was really good. And
19:17
Speaker 3: imagine of face.
19:19
Speaker 1: That are we seeing there a reflection of the fact
19:21
Speaker 1: that she's had a few seasons in some court super netball?
19:24
Speaker 3: Is that? Is that what we're starting? You know? Is it?
19:26
Speaker 1: It's a chicken egg type thing, isn't it? Like she
19:28
Speaker 1: was good and she got picked up by some un
19:30
Speaker 1: court supernetball, But then that that just puts you into
19:34
Speaker 1: the environment of developing more, that club environment.
19:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw the benefit of that. And it's
19:39
Speaker 3: interesting last night Gordie was saying in commentary, you know,
19:42
Speaker 3: you give some of these other athletes that daily training
19:45
Speaker 3: environment where you have, you know, you're under pressure every
19:49
Speaker 3: single day on court, and that they'd all grow into
19:51
Speaker 3: it as well. So yeah, there were certainly some bright spots.
19:54
Speaker 3: I think you know, once you see those superstars come
19:57
Speaker 3: back in, you know, Jamaica will be very good and
19:59
Speaker 3: they'll be very They'll had that a bit more depth
20:02
Speaker 3: just from being able to get them out against Australia.
20:05
Speaker 3: But you know, I was thinking about Shaneie s beckfadd
20:06
Speaker 3: and I thought, imagine being a goal attack and she's
20:08
Speaker 3: only slightly built, She's only you know, she's not that truble.
20:11
Speaker 3: At first you get Matilda Garrett and then she goes,
20:14
Speaker 3: then you get Joe Weston. It's like, what did I
20:16
Speaker 3: ever do wrong to have this come at me? But
20:19
Speaker 3: you know, I thought, you know, it's heartbreaking to see
20:22
Speaker 3: Sunday Ariyang on the sidelines, but I thought Australia's defense
20:25
Speaker 3: was fantastic. Interesting that only twelve players have been chosen
20:28
Speaker 3: for this series, so you get the sense that Stacy
20:31
Speaker 3: Marinkovich's really starting to fine tune towards the Commonwealth Games.
20:36
Speaker 3: And I loved seeing Kate Maloney play her fiftieth last
20:40
Speaker 3: night in wing defense. You know, the struggle that she
20:43
Speaker 3: had to really become a fixture in the Diamonds team.
20:46
Speaker 3: I think if you said to her, you have to
20:47
Speaker 3: play goalkeeper to get your FIFTIETHS she wouldn't have cared right.
20:51
Speaker 3: She's just such a warrior for the diamonds now and
20:53
Speaker 3: to integral and she's got such a great backstory. She
20:56
Speaker 3: was really second fiddle for so long.
20:59
Speaker 1: It's a really great interview that Bianca Chatfield did with her,
21:03
Speaker 1: and she talks about that and and and really it
21:06
Speaker 1: becomes quite vulnerable in doing so. It's but it's interesting
21:10
Speaker 1: this twelve, isn't it. So we had a we hadn't
21:13
Speaker 1: asked the goat question come in during the week and
21:15
Speaker 1: I haven't taken the notes. I'm sorry, I will, I
21:18
Speaker 1: will get you who it was in a moment, but
21:20
Speaker 1: I think it was actually from Scotland. Maybe it was
21:23
Speaker 1: wonderful to get it from oversea. But the question was essentially,
21:26
Speaker 1: what does Alice teag Neild have to do? And it's like,
21:29
Speaker 1: I really do feel like there's some of these young
21:32
Speaker 1: women who are sitting outside of that twelve. It's like, man,
21:37
Speaker 1: I'm you know, at any other time they'd be you know,
21:41
Speaker 1: walk up starts and it is it is. It is
21:43
Speaker 1: a tough time. And I think Alicetignil, it's like she's
21:45
Speaker 1: a fantastic player. She never lets us down. But interesting
21:48
Speaker 1: to see. I was really happy to see Cara Conein
21:51
Speaker 1: wasn't on fire at the end of last year, but
21:53
Speaker 1: she's obviously gone this opportunity I need to absolutely deliver
21:58
Speaker 1: on and hasn't she.
22:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually it's a really great brings to life
22:04
Speaker 3: the old adage that form his temporary, but class is permanent.
22:06
Speaker 3: You know that Kara Khana always had it there and
22:09
Speaker 3: just had a little dip at the end of last year,
22:11
Speaker 3: but she's played really well. And you know those questions
22:15
Speaker 3: about you know, what does Alice team Neild have to do?
22:17
Speaker 3: What is Amy put meant to have to do? There's
22:20
Speaker 3: always awesome players who miss out. And you know, even
22:24
Speaker 3: when I feed back to my playing days, there was
22:27
Speaker 3: a defender Liz Tavna Liz Boniello, who was amazing. Her
22:31
Speaker 3: and I were the Australians, so she'd a sport together
22:33
Speaker 3: when we were sort of eighteen, and we sort of
22:35
Speaker 3: broke through into the Diamonds at the same time, and
22:38
Speaker 3: I just assumed that she would be there forever, right,
22:40
Speaker 3: and then she had some bad luck with some knee
22:43
Speaker 3: injuries and she just missed out in selection. You know,
22:46
Speaker 3: she was a player like Kate who was part of
22:51
Speaker 3: the widest squad that went to a Commonwealth Games for
22:53
Speaker 3: prep and then one of the three that got sent
22:55
Speaker 3: home and didn't quite make the twelve. And you know,
22:58
Speaker 3: I think Diamonds selection is said with players who in
23:01
Speaker 3: any other team in the world would be a walk
23:03
Speaker 3: up start. And you know, Gordion Coxy said it last
23:06
Speaker 3: night in commentary about Giselle Allison. I think it was
23:09
Speaker 3: that maybe Sharon Gordon, is it not? Actually, yeah, it
23:13
Speaker 3: might have been Sharon Gordon shooter who replaced her that
23:15
Speaker 3: in any other team which was twenty nine and we
23:17
Speaker 3: hadn't seen her before and any other team in the world,
23:19
Speaker 3: she's a walk up start. Yeah, and you know that
23:23
Speaker 3: always happens, so and I do feel for those players,
23:26
Speaker 3: but it speaks to the strength of the Diamonds and
23:28
Speaker 3: the strength that Stacey Marinkovich has to choose from.
23:32
Speaker 1: So question without notice, and maybe this is a better
23:34
Speaker 1: one to actually ask Catherine next week. But the question
23:36
Speaker 1: has come through from Kirston in Germany, so not Scotland,
23:39
Speaker 1: but thank you Kirstin about Alice t Neil, and she said,
23:42
Speaker 1: what does she have to do? She has to start
23:43
Speaker 1: playing center? Does she have to start playing goal attack.
23:46
Speaker 1: It's if Alice teg Neil were to come to you
23:48
Speaker 1: and say, I'm so close. I'm delivering consistently in sun
23:52
Speaker 1: Corps Supernetbok. When I was given my shot with the Diamonds,
23:55
Speaker 1: I did a great job. And you know, I guess
23:57
Speaker 1: it's not specifically Alice. It's a sort of any of
24:00
Speaker 1: those young women who are knocking on the door. What
24:02
Speaker 1: advice would you give to someone who it's like, I
24:05
Speaker 1: need to I need to leap frog some really talented
24:09
Speaker 1: people to get my shot.
24:12
Speaker 3: It would be the same advice i'd give to a
24:14
Speaker 3: twelve year old who just missed out on the rap.
24:16
Speaker 3: Tami's keep doing what you're doing right, You're so close.
24:20
Speaker 3: Keep working on your own game, that consistent improvement or
24:23
Speaker 3: that consistent high level performance, and be ready when the
24:27
Speaker 3: moment comes. I think that's probably the most important thing,
24:30
Speaker 3: rather than going who do I have to leap frog?
24:32
Speaker 3: You know, one of the things that I did when
24:34
Speaker 3: I was first trying to get selected was I thought, right,
24:38
Speaker 3: what's my weakness. My weakness was my general fitness. I
24:41
Speaker 3: could read the play, but I just wasn't quite there
24:44
Speaker 3: for my fitness. So I just found what the current
24:47
Speaker 3: Diamonds were doing for their big tests, and I thought, right,
24:50
Speaker 3: I've got to get to that point. So there are
24:51
Speaker 3: things you can do around the edges, and I don't
24:54
Speaker 3: think that that's an issue for Alice tag Neil. So
24:57
Speaker 3: I would just say to her, keep doing what you're doing,
24:59
Speaker 3: because there's so many moments in sport where athletes get
25:06
Speaker 3: their opportunity just through chance or through somebody suddenly not
25:11
Speaker 3: performing that it's not about knocking somebody out. It's just
25:15
Speaker 3: about being ready when the moment's there. So I think
25:18
Speaker 3: she's there or thereabouts, and she's just got to keep
25:22
Speaker 3: doing what she's doing and her time will come. That's excellent.
25:26
Speaker 1: And I'm just thinking about I'm thinking about Shannie Lambdon,
25:29
Speaker 1: who had what nine years sort of bouncing around on
25:32
Speaker 1: training as a training partner, and the like Verity Simmons,
25:35
Speaker 1: who is now back playing with West Coast Fever this year,
25:37
Speaker 1: was on the verge of retirement again, helped out with
25:40
Speaker 1: the Swifts last year, did a fantastic job, was not
25:43
Speaker 1: picked up for a contract, and then Zoe Cransberg has
25:46
Speaker 1: an injury and suddenly Dan Ryan's on the phone to
25:49
Speaker 1: already saying can you come over here? And obviously these
25:51
Speaker 1: are not diamond selections, but it's the same sort of thing.
25:53
Speaker 1: It's like, stay in there. You can't tell what's going
25:56
Speaker 1: to happen. You know things out there. Do what you
25:58
Speaker 1: can that's inside your control, and whatever's outside of it,
26:02
Speaker 1: you've got to let that go. But be ready, Vice Elizabeth.
26:06
Speaker 3: Well, thanks, It's almost like we've been around for a
26:08
Speaker 3: thousand years, isn't it.
26:09
Speaker 1: This is why we've started the ask the goat, said
26:12
Speaker 1: my goat. For those I did have a couple of
26:14
Speaker 1: people asked last week, why do we call Liz a goat?
26:19
Speaker 3: You're right.
26:19
Speaker 1: We could have gone with turkey, we could have gone
26:21
Speaker 1: with Galah, but actually, goat. It's an acronym, the greatest
26:25
Speaker 1: of all time and one hundred and twenty two tests
26:28
Speaker 1: and a whole lot of other wisdom. This is undisputably
26:33
Speaker 1: the goat of our sport.
26:36
Speaker 3: So I don't know about undisputably, but because you know,
26:39
Speaker 3: this is why you have children, right, So, well, firstly,
26:42
Speaker 3: I'm a Capricorn, so I'm a giddy goat. But this
26:44
Speaker 3: is why you have children. Because I stopped my kid
26:48
Speaker 3: from my kids from saying goat because they'd be like, oh,
26:51
Speaker 3: I'm the goat, or they're the goat and it was
26:53
Speaker 3: just stupid, or goat it. I goated it. I'm like,
26:56
Speaker 3: there's no such words. Stop it. It's an acronym, right,
26:59
Speaker 3: So obviously grammar is important in our house to me,
27:02
Speaker 3: but to know, so fun being your kids and my kids,
27:07
Speaker 3: you know what. I have these conversations with them and
27:09
Speaker 3: they look at me and they go mom, and I'm like, hey, hey, hey,
27:11
Speaker 3: your life is so good that I need to make
27:13
Speaker 3: sure you've got something to tell your psychologists when you're older.
27:17
Speaker 1: T chible moments will be we'll come back to you
27:20
Speaker 1: later on.
27:21
Speaker 3: You better have something to wing about. Anyway, I stopped
27:24
Speaker 3: them saying evil and one day, just recently, she goes,
27:27
Speaker 3: you know you're not the goat. I'm like, I never
27:30
Speaker 3: professed to be the goat. Why? Because I asked chat GPT,
27:34
Speaker 3: who the netball goat isn't it's Oren Vandyke. It's not
27:36
Speaker 3: even you. Okay, hey, thanks, I didn't realize.
27:41
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you can ask chat GPT to drive you
27:44
Speaker 1: next time you want to go and meet your friends
27:46
Speaker 1: to go to the.
27:46
Speaker 3: Movies exactly, chat GPT you can put some money on
27:50
Speaker 3: your squigger card, then next time even better, asked Ira
27:53
Speaker 3: van Dyke. Probably she's so nice she would put money
27:56
Speaker 3: on the Squiggy card. That's not a good thing to
27:58
Speaker 3: do anyway.
28:00
Speaker 1: Don't ask her that say something that it's impossible for
28:03
Speaker 1: her to deliver on. So I worried a few people
28:15
Speaker 1: during the week. Now I need to thank Alexa Pruno,
28:17
Speaker 1: who's your eddy bestie? Because I was sitting on the
28:20
Speaker 1: couch looking at my phone killing time on a Wednesday night,
28:25
Speaker 1: and then I went, oh my god.
28:26
Speaker 3: The desk has started.
28:27
Speaker 1: I just completely lost track of time and had her
28:31
Speaker 1: feed not come up and gone, okay, well this is
28:33
Speaker 1: where we are after the first quarter. I just I
28:35
Speaker 1: would not have I probably would have missed the whole test.
28:38
Speaker 1: But thank you Alexa. But also there are a few
28:41
Speaker 1: people who tagged me with the drinks that they were having,
28:43
Speaker 1: which I thought was lovely, and I told them that
28:47
Speaker 1: I was having a Herbal Tea and dribbler. Tracy grow
28:50
Speaker 1: Now suggested that perhaps my Facebook had been hacked, but.
28:54
Speaker 3: It was it was me.
28:56
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to be a little bit of
28:58
Speaker 1: steemious during the week at the moment, because it's been
29:00
Speaker 1: a big summer, you know, summer, you.
29:02
Speaker 3: Go Soliday whatever. It's like, yeah, it's like, you can't
29:05
Speaker 3: do six weeks of that, No, you can't. And you know,
29:09
Speaker 3: I thought about doing fed Fast completely, and I thought
29:12
Speaker 3: that all that does is just set me up to
29:14
Speaker 3: binge all all the way through March. I'm like, yeah,
29:16
Speaker 3: I had all of February off, Now let me just
29:18
Speaker 3: go harty much. So I thought I'd do it a
29:20
Speaker 3: bit like you Monday to Thursday nothing and then I'm
29:24
Speaker 3: doing an and all right. So often on a weekend
29:27
Speaker 3: I'll crack a beer with Matthew at about like four
29:30
Speaker 3: or five o'clock after we've had a day gardening or
29:32
Speaker 3: taking the kids to sport or whatever, and then we
29:34
Speaker 3: might have a couple of wines. And I've said to
29:36
Speaker 3: her Mom, I'm just gonna it's at the moment for February,
29:39
Speaker 3: it's not and it's an all. You can have a
29:41
Speaker 3: beer or a wine or a margarite, but you can't
29:44
Speaker 3: have a beer and a wine. So anyway, we'll see
29:47
Speaker 3: how that goes and see if I can develop that
29:49
Speaker 3: habit that takes me through March.
29:50
Speaker 1: And I think it's like I can't. My dad always said,
29:53
Speaker 1: you don't mix the grape and the grain. So you
29:55
Speaker 1: can't don't have beer and then have wine, or you
29:57
Speaker 1: don't have wine and then have Scotch. But you can
29:59
Speaker 1: have beer and then have if that is your And
30:02
Speaker 1: I am now of the age that I know that
30:05
Speaker 1: to be one of the wisest things my father has
30:08
Speaker 1: ever taught me.
30:09
Speaker 3: That it is.
30:10
Speaker 1: I will feel so much worse the day after if
30:14
Speaker 1: I have mixed alcohol at all, And even if it's
30:16
Speaker 1: not to any type of excess or whatever, it's just
30:20
Speaker 1: if I start with wine, I will stay on wine.
30:24
Speaker 3: So where does that leave vodka? Because that's the potato,
30:27
Speaker 3: So you know it's.
30:28
Speaker 1: Not a potato. Most vodka is not potato made. It's
30:32
Speaker 1: most of its grain based. Now I know this because
30:35
Speaker 1: when I went to Canada years ago, I was doing
30:38
Speaker 1: some travel riding then, so I jagged myself and Pete
30:42
Speaker 1: this freebee at one of those freezer room vodka tasting
30:47
Speaker 1: places of Velvetere vodka, and we had to put the
30:50
Speaker 1: big parkers on and we went into this freeze room
30:52
Speaker 1: and they took us through this whole kind of tasting
30:56
Speaker 1: suite of vodkas and gave the history and yeah, apparently
30:59
Speaker 1: it's it's been quite some time since potato has been
31:02
Speaker 1: like that. Potato based vodka has been the dominant one
31:05
Speaker 1: in the industry.
31:06
Speaker 3: Wow, that's fascinating. What about what about gin? Then?
31:09
Speaker 1: Well, gin is a grain.
31:12
Speaker 3: I want to hang on. What is great?
31:13
Speaker 1: It's botanicals, right, Yeah, it's juniper based, isn't it so?
31:18
Speaker 1: Or is that just the flavor not the production?
31:22
Speaker 3: Sounding like a job for Darryl, I would have thought,
31:26
Speaker 3: given your history, it's a job for you. But anyhow,
31:29
Speaker 3: it is a job for me. I will Darryl.
31:31
Speaker 1: I will take that on that note now, I don't
31:34
Speaker 1: want Daryl think that we're firing him. Even though the
31:37
Speaker 1: one asked the gat question. We will ask Liz is
31:42
Speaker 1: we will sun Corps super Nepple final be hell.
31:45
Speaker 3: It's an excellent question. I note that Darryl Milton in
31:49
Speaker 3: our Facebook group did some research about netball courts in
31:54
Speaker 3: Hamilton on Hamilton Island, and there's not a lot in
31:58
Speaker 3: terms of stadiums. Having said that, I think the players
32:03
Speaker 3: will be pretty happy if they could just play in
32:05
Speaker 3: like a converted conference center or something like that. Tough
32:08
Speaker 3: for ticket sales, so listen. I've been in touch with
32:11
Speaker 3: the authorities and I can confirm that the Grand Final
32:15
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six will not be Milano Cortina. Oh well,
32:21
Speaker 3: that you.
32:21
Speaker 1: Told us that one last week, did I? So now
32:24
Speaker 1: you're ruling out Island.
32:27
Speaker 3: I'm ruling out Hamilton Island. I'm ruling out Milano Cortina.
32:31
Speaker 3: Do I need to think of somewhere else? I know
32:33
Speaker 3: you gave this to me his own work, but I
32:34
Speaker 3: didn't do it. Well. We're going to keep asking.
32:38
Speaker 1: We're going to keep asking, and one day.
32:40
Speaker 3: We hope that you will be able to tell us
32:43
Speaker 3: one day, one day soon. There you go, one day soon,
32:46
Speaker 3: One day soon.
32:48
Speaker 1: Hey, I wanted to loop back. You wanted to talk
32:51
Speaker 1: about ACLS, anterior cruciate ligaments. The goat, the greatest of
32:57
Speaker 1: all time, would like to talk about anti a cruciate ligaments.
33:00
Speaker 3: Oh look, I died that. I was just watching Lindsay
33:03
Speaker 3: Vaughn and like I thought, she was amazing. She did
33:06
Speaker 3: an ACL I don't know, ten days ago or something
33:10
Speaker 3: like that, and it was already a phenomenal comeback story
33:15
Speaker 3: because she's had her knee, one of her knees right now,
33:19
Speaker 3: I think it is replaced with a titanium knee, and
33:22
Speaker 3: then ten days ago she did the ACL in the
33:25
Speaker 3: other knee, and I.
33:27
Speaker 1: Didn't realize it was that I knew that, like I
33:28
Speaker 1: hadn't followed the story closely enough to know that it
33:31
Speaker 1: was like super recent.
33:32
Speaker 3: I knew, oh yeah, it was like a matter of
33:35
Speaker 3: days ago. So it was just really interesting. And you know,
33:39
Speaker 3: there's been a bit of conjecture around should she have
33:42
Speaker 3: done it, should she have been stopped from doing it
33:43
Speaker 3: because of the crash that she had this morning, And
33:46
Speaker 3: I was thinking about like that athlete mindset. When I
33:49
Speaker 3: did my ACL, I went down at a screaming heat
33:53
Speaker 3: and I had this massive pain in my knee, and
33:56
Speaker 3: I got taken off to the medical rooms and our
33:59
Speaker 3: physic who did the classic tests, which anyone who's ever
34:02
Speaker 3: had it wouldn't know. They basically cock your leg up
34:06
Speaker 3: at ninety degrees and then they pull the bottom part
34:09
Speaker 3: of your leg, and if your a CL is still there,
34:12
Speaker 3: it sort of stops it. There's like an end point,
34:14
Speaker 3: and if your ACL, if you've torn your a c L,
34:17
Speaker 3: there's no endpoint. And so essentially the physio just walked
34:20
Speaker 3: out the door with the bottom part of my leg.
34:21
Speaker 3: There was nothing left. And I said to him, nah,
34:24
Speaker 3: I don't think I've done it. And he was like,
34:26
Speaker 3: I've just done the test. It's it's done. I was like, no, no, no,
34:29
Speaker 3: it's not get I want another opinion, right, So I'm like,
34:31
Speaker 3: get the doctor. So we got in doctor Lynn. She
34:34
Speaker 3: comes in and she does it. She goes, you've done
34:36
Speaker 3: your sl said no, no I haven't. I'd like another
34:39
Speaker 3: opinion please, said to the physio, can you strap me up?
34:42
Speaker 3: I'm going to go out. I'm going to I'm right
34:44
Speaker 3: to go back on in this total state of denial, right,
34:48
Speaker 3: And so I got.
34:49
Speaker 1: It's why we have head injury protocols.
34:51
Speaker 3: Well, this is right, you're talking about it. So I
34:53
Speaker 3: walked out and I sat next to normal plumber and
34:55
Speaker 3: I said, I'm good to go now. Speaking of a
34:57
Speaker 3: normal plumber, had she had well I form in this
35:00
Speaker 3: regard about a year before I had had a collision
35:04
Speaker 3: playing goal defense against New Zealand with Jess Shin, who
35:07
Speaker 3: was a mid call player, and I had We're in
35:09
Speaker 3: New Zealand and I'd landed sort of on my neck
35:13
Speaker 3: and head. I said, I went up on top of
35:16
Speaker 3: her around on my neck and head and I jumped
35:17
Speaker 3: up and I was like, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine.
35:19
Speaker 3: And then when I got off and cooled down, I
35:21
Speaker 3: started getting all this massive pain and tingling like in
35:24
Speaker 3: my fingers.
35:26
Speaker 4: Neck.
35:26
Speaker 3: God, my god, in a neck base and taken to
35:29
Speaker 3: hospital for scams. Right. So, and I had told Plum
35:32
Speaker 3: that I was fine and she let me play on.
35:34
Speaker 3: So this time around she was like, you're an idiot.
35:36
Speaker 3: Just sit there and you're not going back on court.
35:38
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine.
35:40
Speaker 3: I'm strapped. I'm strapped. Had she let me back on,
35:42
Speaker 3: I would have gone on and done a massive amount
35:44
Speaker 3: of damage to my knee. And you're fast forward and
35:47
Speaker 3: you see Lindsay Vaughn. And I couldn't figure out why
35:49
Speaker 3: she could still ski. And then I read something that
35:52
Speaker 3: footballers and netballers the reason why we can't play without
35:55
Speaker 3: our acls is because our feet are static, and we're
35:59
Speaker 3: using like that static nature of our feet to push
36:03
Speaker 3: off and go in a change direction, whereas skiers are
36:05
Speaker 3: gliding so their feet don't really hit anything. They have
36:07
Speaker 3: to turn, but if you've got your brace one, you
36:10
Speaker 3: can do it. And she's not the first skier in
36:11
Speaker 3: history to do it, and she's forty one. And when
36:16
Speaker 3: I was coming back, I got tired. I'd be out
36:18
Speaker 3: for twelve months and I was like, I don't have
36:20
Speaker 3: twelve months. I'm going to come back in six months.
36:22
Speaker 3: I'm going to plane two thousand and six and seven,
36:25
Speaker 3: and I was thinking about that I might retire with
36:28
Speaker 3: I don't have twelve months to get back. And I
36:31
Speaker 3: saw that there was some criticism of her or of
36:34
Speaker 3: her team letting her ski, and I thought, she's forty one,
36:37
Speaker 3: she's having a six time Olympian, she knows her body,
36:41
Speaker 3: she knows the risk. She's not an eighteen year old
36:43
Speaker 3: that needs to be protected from herself. Just let it go.
36:46
Speaker 3: And it was awful seeing that footage of her going
36:48
Speaker 3: down and she's potentially done a whole lot of damage.
36:52
Speaker 3: But again, I think the things that make people great
36:55
Speaker 3: athletes are also the things that make them risk takers,
36:59
Speaker 3: and that's the risk she took. So it was Yeah,
37:03
Speaker 3: it just made me think about if you're an individual athlete,
37:06
Speaker 3: you really do run your own show. But for me,
37:09
Speaker 3: I just had the coach to protect me from myself.
37:12
Speaker 1: It's interesting what you're saying about Lindsay Vonne. And I'm
37:15
Speaker 1: probably going to contradict what I was saying earlier on
37:17
Speaker 1: about these you know, these drug Olympics and things like that,
37:20
Speaker 1: and you know, not being we shouldn't be allowing people
37:23
Speaker 1: to make these decisions for themselves. But she's forty one
37:25
Speaker 1: years old, this is the end of her career, so
37:27
Speaker 1: she is making a decision in full understanding of the
37:32
Speaker 1: fact that it's like, I know the risk and I
37:34
Speaker 1: know what I'm risking here, and I have decided that
37:37
Speaker 1: on balance, it's worth it for me to try to
37:40
Speaker 1: have this as my swan song because I know that
37:42
Speaker 1: I'm not jeopardizing any further career in this space. Now,
37:47
Speaker 1: what she is jeopardizing is, you know, mobility in old age.
37:51
Speaker 1: And but again that's that whole ask an eighteen year
37:54
Speaker 1: old to focus on this super annuation type thing. So yeah,
37:59
Speaker 1: I just thing, so you could have you could walk
38:02
Speaker 1: when you did your ACL Yep, okay.
38:06
Speaker 3: So I could. Well, I had a heap of swelling,
38:09
Speaker 3: but I ked like a demon and it went down
38:12
Speaker 3: reasonably quickly. And because I because I got under the
38:16
Speaker 3: swelling straight away, I could have my operation really quickly.
38:19
Speaker 3: And then one of my old teammates, well, Alison Broadbent
38:23
Speaker 3: had had had done her knee twice I think, or
38:27
Speaker 3: three times. She's had a horrible with knee injuries. And
38:31
Speaker 3: she just said to me, your knee is never as
38:33
Speaker 3: strong as a date gets operated on. And Liz Tavn'ta
38:35
Speaker 3: actually who did her knees twice, rang me and said
38:37
Speaker 3: the same thing. I got all this advice that like
38:41
Speaker 3: some people will say, stay off it, but just get
38:42
Speaker 3: back on it. So I started walking the day after
38:45
Speaker 3: my operation. I might have walked out of hospital actually
38:48
Speaker 3: because I just thought, right, I've just got to I've
38:50
Speaker 3: just got to crack on and get onto it. So
38:52
Speaker 3: I'd done a heap of pre hab too before my operation,
38:54
Speaker 3: so in the week or so beforehand, and heaps of
38:57
Speaker 3: pre had just to get my muscles firing again. And
38:59
Speaker 3: you know, you saw Lindsay vonn in the ten days
39:03
Speaker 3: or whatever it was between when she tore her acl
39:05
Speaker 3: and then when she competed, she was back in the
39:07
Speaker 3: gym and she had it. She's got amazing quads that
39:09
Speaker 3: these guys just do so much work in that regard
39:12
Speaker 3: that your muscles can hold you join together a little
39:14
Speaker 3: bit as well. Amazing. It's phenomenal, isn't it. I mean
39:17
Speaker 3: everyone would have loved the fairy tale finish, but you
39:21
Speaker 3: still have to admire her tenacity and her drive and
39:24
Speaker 3: what she's achieved.
39:25
Speaker 1: So oh absolutely, you know, And it's like this is
39:28
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a sport that I particularly follow,
39:31
Speaker 1: but this is a story that I go, I really,
39:34
Speaker 1: I really admire this someone who goes, this is the
39:37
Speaker 1: end of my professional sport career and I'm going to
39:40
Speaker 1: give it my all. It's like Valentino, who was he
39:44
Speaker 1: it was like ghazale or I can't remember what his
39:46
Speaker 1: surname was, but the young Australian guy, he's just competed
39:49
Speaker 1: in the snowboarding and he just he just went for
39:53
Speaker 1: broke in the last in the last heat, but knowing
39:57
Speaker 1: that the only way I can win is if I
39:58
Speaker 1: nail this, and he was trying to do it that
40:00
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd ever done in competition before, and
40:03
Speaker 1: he crashed out and ended up being tenth rather than
40:05
Speaker 1: he could possibly have podiumed if he'd done a safer run.
40:09
Speaker 1: But it's also like that's fun.
40:11
Speaker 3: Go for it. You know this is hard, Hey are
40:14
Speaker 3: you it's your family like, you know, you don't watch
40:16
Speaker 3: a lot of this sort of sport, but then have
40:19
Speaker 3: you been watching the ice dancing and suddenly you all
40:22
Speaker 3: become experts in the scoring system, experts on a number.
40:25
Speaker 3: You know.
40:26
Speaker 1: It is so funny what an expert you quickly become,
40:28
Speaker 1: isn't it? But I love Catherine last week saying that
40:31
Speaker 1: she reckoned she could be a tennis commentator because she
40:34
Speaker 1: knows when to go ooh and ah, and it's like, oh, yeah, maybe.
40:38
Speaker 3: That's probably not it, Catherine, like she's an excellent netball commentator.
40:43
Speaker 1: I did love listening, yeah yeah, And it was great
40:46
Speaker 1: to hear her and Gordy together again last night. And
40:48
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of the dribblers really really
40:51
Speaker 1: enjoyed the common truth, as did we Catherine, and we miss.
40:54
Speaker 4: You, okay.
41:08
Speaker 1: Well again another cracking netball segment which also became a
41:11
Speaker 1: Winter sports netball segment, so you never know, you never
41:13
Speaker 1: know where this podcast is going to go.
41:16
Speaker 3: And a bit of alcohol segment in there as well,
41:18
Speaker 3: so look at us indeed skilling. Yeah, and a job
41:20
Speaker 3: for me.
41:21
Speaker 1: Now, we're not going to officially have an asked the
41:24
Speaker 1: goat segment this week because you're tired still from last
41:28
Speaker 1: week's barrage of Asked the Goat questions. But everyone should
41:31
Speaker 1: be sending their questions into info at No dribble dot
41:34
Speaker 1: com dot are you If you put them on the
41:36
Speaker 1: Facebook page, Liz can see them, and we're less likely
41:38
Speaker 1: to use them because then she's had a warning of
41:40
Speaker 1: what's coming, and we like to we'd like to put
41:43
Speaker 1: the heat up a bit under the goats hooves and
41:45
Speaker 1: make her sweat and come to the party quickly.
41:48
Speaker 3: So info at No dribble dot com. I don't need
41:51
Speaker 3: your questions to sweat. I've got menopause. God can February end?
41:58
Speaker 1: It's just it's the word month of the year, isn't
42:01
Speaker 1: It's like the holidays are really over. You do get
42:03
Speaker 1: down to sort of thinking about you know, my accountant
42:07
Speaker 1: is asking me for information about my tax It's like, oh,
42:11
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to you, not for quite
42:13
Speaker 1: some time. But then and then my hair always looks
42:16
Speaker 1: terrible because of the humidity. I'm off to New Zealand
42:19
Speaker 1: for a week. I'm escaping the heat, so I'm going
42:21
Speaker 1: to see my mum. But No Asked the Goat, but
42:24
Speaker 1: we are going to have another segment and this segment
42:26
Speaker 1: is called for those nineties kids are among us things
42:30
Speaker 1: that make you go hmm. And this is also a
42:44
Speaker 1: little bit of a call back to the Winter Olympics. Liz,
42:48
Speaker 1: did you see that there is talk that some male
42:53
Speaker 1: Winter Olympic athletes are having injections to increase their penis
42:58
Speaker 1: size in order to get a bigger suit that they
43:03
Speaker 1: can do some ski jumping in because it creates better
43:07
Speaker 1: drag and therefore by having a bigger dick, they can
43:12
Speaker 1: get more gold medals.
43:14
Speaker 3: That made me go hmmm. I can't believe you asked,
43:17
Speaker 3: did I see the right? So as soon as I
43:19
Speaker 3: say a headline that says, you know, athletes using injections
43:24
Speaker 3: to make their penises bigger, I was like, well, I'm
43:26
Speaker 3: having I read it, and I didn't quite understand the science.
43:29
Speaker 3: I have to say no, given that we've just had
43:31
Speaker 3: a whole conversation about protecting athletes from themselves, I feel
43:36
Speaker 3: like this is a moment where they need a team
43:37
Speaker 3: around them to protect them from themselves. Oh, I know it.
43:43
Speaker 1: Just so the suits are measured by some process that
43:48
Speaker 1: I think is rationalized across all of the athletes, so
43:53
Speaker 1: they're all wearing the same sort of suit that allegedly
43:55
Speaker 1: fits their body best. So no one can come out
43:58
Speaker 1: there in like an EMC hammer pants and a big
44:02
Speaker 1: jacket from the eighties and go this is what I'm
44:05
Speaker 1: jumping in. Although I think we can all agree that
44:07
Speaker 1: would make the Winter Olympics even better, right, totally. So
44:12
Speaker 1: if you are able to get your cod piece somewhat
44:16
Speaker 1: enhanced by injections, and I think it was like hyaluronic
44:19
Speaker 1: acid or something, wasn't it. It was something good, yeah,
44:22
Speaker 1: but it was something that we're meant to inject into
44:25
Speaker 1: it or sorry, use on our face that Eva Longoria
44:27
Speaker 1: tells us we're meant to be using on our faces
44:29
Speaker 1: to look younger, like I've yet to use an Eva
44:33
Speaker 1: Longoria endorse product that makes me look like Eva Longoria,
44:35
Speaker 1: I will have you know, ha ha.
44:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I don't think any of us are
44:40
Speaker 3: going to inject that stuff into our genitalia lo at
44:43
Speaker 3: that know. I just I looked at it. I was like,
44:44
Speaker 3: that's a bit weird, But then I did wonder, right,
44:46
Speaker 3: So when you're at the Olympics, and I've worked at
44:48
Speaker 3: a couple of Olympic Games, you do start looking for
44:51
Speaker 3: weird stuff. Because every day it gets a bit same
44:54
Speaker 3: same when you're pulling seventeen hour shifts. And like every
44:58
Speaker 3: Olympics and Commonwealth Games is are was about like how
45:01
Speaker 3: much condoms get used in the village, And you know,
45:04
Speaker 3: the village has been through fifteen thousand condoms, and I'm
45:07
Speaker 3: here to tell you that the first fourteen thousand it
45:09
Speaker 3: uses water balloons and then the rest might get used
45:15
Speaker 3: as intended. And I suspect this is just something that
45:18
Speaker 3: someone hurt in passing and then off we go. It's
45:20
Speaker 3: a story and it may or may not be true,
45:22
Speaker 3: but it is interesting and it is funny, and it
45:24
Speaker 3: is again a good example of what athletes will do
45:27
Speaker 3: to get an edge.
45:29
Speaker 1: Well, the World Anti Doping Authority guy couldn't confirm that
45:32
Speaker 1: it had happened. He went, well, look, I've heard this,
45:35
Speaker 1: but we have not seen any actual evidence of it,
45:38
Speaker 1: so it could just be completely made up. I love
45:42
Speaker 1: all of the stats they give that. It's like you
45:45
Speaker 1: lie the hot dogs end to end and it would
45:48
Speaker 1: go from Milana Cortino to Sydney. That's the number of
45:52
Speaker 1: hot dogs that will be eaten at the Olympics this year.
45:55
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, and Olympic swimming pools is used
46:00
Speaker 1: an awful lot as a measure of how big something like. Obviously,
46:05
Speaker 1: one Olympic swimming pool is used as the measure for
46:07
Speaker 1: an Olympic swimming pool, so that's a one to one ratio.
46:10
Speaker 1: But sports commentators love to talk about how many Olympic
46:13
Speaker 1: swimming pools could fit into a particular body of water.
46:19
Speaker 3: Yep. And again, when you commentated these things, he had
46:22
Speaker 3: given a handbook and it's got all these stats in it,
46:24
Speaker 3: and there are people whose job it is to make
46:26
Speaker 3: these stats. And when you get these stats, it's how
46:28
Speaker 3: you give color and movement to what you're saying. Well,
46:31
Speaker 3: thank you, we appreciate it. I did go.
46:33
Speaker 1: I had an Olympic swimming pool moment last week. Dotty
46:37
Speaker 1: had some netwaw trails out at Netpul Central, so I thought,
46:39
Speaker 1: I'll go and do some laps in the Olympic pool
46:42
Speaker 1: because I love going out there because it's like it's
46:44
Speaker 1: the Sydney Olympic Pool.
46:46
Speaker 3: Got there.
46:46
Speaker 1: Of course, the largest swimming carnival ever mounted with young
46:51
Speaker 1: children was on that day, so they had like the
46:54
Speaker 1: other fifty meter pool the warm up pool split into
46:57
Speaker 1: two and this side is all lessons, and so there's
47:00
Speaker 1: three twenty five meter lanes there and I thought, look,
47:04
Speaker 1: i'm here. I do like having swims, so I got in.
47:07
Speaker 1: I got into the medium lane, which I think is
47:09
Speaker 1: the appropriate and respectful place to get and after a
47:12
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, I realized, okay, I'm probably a bit
47:15
Speaker 1: faster than people, so I got into the fast lane,
47:18
Speaker 1: where I definitely was the fastest, because at one stage
47:21
Speaker 1: there was me and another woman who was doing that
47:23
Speaker 1: backward skimming that you do when you're at a waterfall,
47:26
Speaker 1: and isn't this beautiful? And it's like, I'm not certain
47:30
Speaker 1: that you might be fast backward skimming, but you're not
47:34
Speaker 1: fast swimming. And nothing brings out the road rage in
47:39
Speaker 1: me like that swimming pool timing, and I was really
47:43
Speaker 1: I was trying very because I like swimming. It sort
47:45
Speaker 1: of makes me a bit zen and I'm trying to
47:47
Speaker 1: talk myself down. But then after a couple of minutes,
47:49
Speaker 1: these two older women who I was in the pool with,
47:53
Speaker 1: they sort of stopped and stopped their backward skimming and
47:56
Speaker 1: the science stroke and they said, oh, you're very good,
47:58
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well, now you could do whatever
48:01
Speaker 1: you want because you've just complimented.
48:05
Speaker 3: So there you are like swimming along, thinking how do
48:07
Speaker 3: I say it to them politely to get in a slowlide? Yep, yeah,
48:10
Speaker 3: Now you're like, oh, they're my biggest fans. Well you guys,
48:14
Speaker 3: you're you're all right. Let's leave it out. Let's have
48:16
Speaker 3: a coffee afterwards. Your backwards skimming is excellent? May I
48:20
Speaker 3: say it was?
48:21
Speaker 1: Look, it's amongst the best backwards skimming I've seen in
48:25
Speaker 1: a long time, because you don't often see that away
48:27
Speaker 1: from a waterfall. Like I'm trying to work out another
48:30
Speaker 1: time that that that you would do this. But anyway,
48:34
Speaker 1: do you swim laps?
48:35
Speaker 3: I did when the kids had their swimming lessons. I
48:40
Speaker 3: liked it, and yeah, but I'm like always I never
48:44
Speaker 3: know where to put myself. Like, I know, I'm not fast.
48:47
Speaker 3: I'm not in the fast lane because I don't wear flippers.
48:50
Speaker 3: You know when you see people the fast with flippers. Yeah, maybe,
48:54
Speaker 3: but I always look for a lane that got nobody
48:56
Speaker 3: else in it. I don't like being in a lane
48:58
Speaker 3: with anybody else. So AnyWho, I do like swimming laps,
49:01
Speaker 3: I just don't do it very often anymore because the
49:03
Speaker 3: kids don't have swmring lessons.
49:05
Speaker 1: Well, if you don't like being in a lane with
49:07
Speaker 1: anyone else, do not go to the Olympic Pool at
49:10
Speaker 1: Sydney Olympic Park on a Saturday morning.
49:12
Speaker 3: Like what an idiot? Of course that would be full
49:14
Speaker 3: of less club. Yeah. I've got to say there's something
49:18
Speaker 3: to be said for living in the country and when
49:20
Speaker 3: I go to Austinville Pool, I can guarantee that I'll
49:24
Speaker 3: get a lane to myself.
49:26
Speaker 1: That Ballaner Public Pool has quite cool water slides.
49:29
Speaker 3: It does. Actually, I was there during the week Austin
49:32
Speaker 3: had a swimming carnival and I was sitting there and
49:35
Speaker 3: Mom and I were watching it and we're like, these
49:37
Speaker 3: water slides are unbelievable. They're so good. They're like seventeen
49:40
Speaker 3: bucks and you get four hours and there's never any lines.
49:43
Speaker 3: Like we sometimes think about, Oh, do you want to
49:45
Speaker 3: go up to wett and Wild on the Gold Coase,
49:47
Speaker 3: which is an hour and a half driveway, And the
49:48
Speaker 3: kids are now like, why would you bother? We can
49:50
Speaker 3: just go to the balin of water slides and there's
49:52
Speaker 3: no lines and you just run and run and run.
49:54
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. When they were little if you took them
49:56
Speaker 3: there for four hours, they would sleep and sleep and sleep.
49:59
Speaker 3: So best player. Yes, in the pool is good. But
50:03
Speaker 3: water slides a bit.
50:03
Speaker 1: I love love water slides, and my kids are a
50:07
Speaker 1: bit there about there, like, yeah.
50:10
Speaker 3: What's wrong with your children? I don't know, Like it's
50:12
Speaker 3: do you not like fun?
50:14
Speaker 1: Like it's just I don't really like roller coasters and things,
50:16
Speaker 1: but a water slide I think is really fun. We
50:19
Speaker 1: actually stopped Lewis was about five, and yeah, I just
50:24
Speaker 1: had the baby, so she was about six or seven
50:26
Speaker 1: months old then, and we stopped on the way back
50:28
Speaker 1: from Europe and had a couple of days in Dubai
50:30
Speaker 1: and we stayed at Atlantis the Palm, and there is
50:34
Speaker 1: a really good water slide park right next to it,
50:37
Speaker 1: and because it was winter then, there was hardly anyone there. Now,
50:41
Speaker 1: winter twenty seven degrees perfect, right, I don't know, Summer
50:44
Speaker 1: must be absolute hell. But there was this one called
50:48
Speaker 1: the Leap of Faith and it's a near vertical drop
50:50
Speaker 1: and when you get to the bottom, you go through
50:53
Speaker 1: you're in at perspects tube obviously, but there's a shark
50:55
Speaker 1: tank around you. So it's super fun. But like, I'm
50:59
Speaker 1: scared of heights, and I thought, I really want to
51:02
Speaker 1: do this, and I charged up the stairs. I wasn't
51:04
Speaker 1: looking sideways because you're seeing out the sides knowing how
51:08
Speaker 1: high you're going. I got up to the top and
51:10
Speaker 1: there were two girls there sort of maybe did I
51:14
Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen? They're going you go, no, you go,
51:16
Speaker 1: and it's like, just let me go. And they turn
51:19
Speaker 1: around and said to me, do you want to go?
51:20
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, I do. And I got in
51:22
Speaker 1: and the woman said to me, who was the attendant,
51:26
Speaker 1: She said, do you want me to give you a shove?
51:28
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, you're going to have to because
51:29
Speaker 1: I can. I'm frozen with terror. But you have to
51:33
Speaker 1: cross your arms over you over your chest, keep your
51:36
Speaker 1: ankles together because obviously you fill up with water otherwise.
51:39
Speaker 1: But so I went down this thing and I got
51:41
Speaker 1: to the bottom and I gave the lifeguards there, just
51:45
Speaker 1: making sure that I get her out all right, and
51:47
Speaker 1: he said are you okay? I said, I said, did
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Speaker 1: I scream? And he said, oh, yes, madam very loud.
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Speaker 3: I had no idea, but you got your shoot through.
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Speaker 1: I had no concept of that there were sharks around me,
51:58
Speaker 1: because you're so fast through that and I was so panic,
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Speaker 1: but it was a really for me. It was a
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Speaker 1: very brave thing to do because I don't like heights,
52:06
Speaker 1: but I just love water slides.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Same. And I think they're a great friends. So
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Speaker 3: it's funny that your kids love them. I don't. They're great.
52:13
Speaker 1: There you go, well, so here we go to the
52:15
Speaker 1: caravan and Camping show is now also covering off the
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Speaker 1: water Sliines off the North Country, and I will say
52:20
Speaker 1: before we go, I've got a recommendation this book by
52:23
Speaker 1: Australia and author Jessica Detman.
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Speaker 3: It's called Your Friend and Mine. I loved it. I
52:27
Speaker 3: read it over the summer holidays. They're set up.
52:29
Speaker 1: There is a woman who's somewhere in her forties, married
52:33
Speaker 1: kid here in Sydney, and her friend who has died
52:36
Speaker 1: left us some money to go back to London to
52:40
Speaker 1: have the kind of gap year that they were going
52:42
Speaker 1: to have together when they were in their early twenties,
52:45
Speaker 1: and she didn't do it. So she goes and has
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Speaker 1: this very short gap year and it's just it's a
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Speaker 1: delightful story. It's really charming, it's easy to read. I
52:55
Speaker 1: highly recommend it. Your Friend of mine, Jessicadetman. There we
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Speaker 1: go as endorsed by the Netty Gnome.
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Speaker 3: Thank you? Are you just bringing books into it now
53:04
Speaker 3: that Catherine's not here, because you know that if we
53:06
Speaker 3: asked her to endorse a book, it would have to
53:08
Speaker 3: be like the David Beckham biography or the Andre Agacy biography.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm all down for that if she wants
53:15
Speaker 1: to recommend some books. Although I don't, I don't. I
53:17
Speaker 1: can't think of a single sporting person's autobiography that I
53:21
Speaker 1: have ever read. I do have on my bookshelf, though
53:24
Speaker 1: Shane Warne my story, but it's written by someone else.
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Speaker 3: So I love.
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Speaker 1: I love a good warning story. But I'm not a
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Speaker 1: big But you know, maybe Catherine can recommend some other
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Speaker 1: things for us.
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Speaker 3: This is so she can recommend some viewing and who
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Speaker 3: I don't think of something to recommend as well? I
53:41
Speaker 3: like this? So is this a new segment?
53:43
Speaker 1: Yeap, no Dribble recommends. Yeah, And just to be clear,
53:47
Speaker 1: no one's paid me to give this recommendation. It's just
53:50
Speaker 1: a book that I thoroughly enjoyed that I think our
53:52
Speaker 1: community of dribblers might enjoy. There's a lot of stuff
53:55
Speaker 1: that that that I read that, I'm you know, I
53:58
Speaker 1: might love but I might not think that the community
54:00
Speaker 1: loves it. But I think this one for our knowing,
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Speaker 1: our group as we do. I think that one is
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Speaker 1: a very fun one to read. So and you know,
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Speaker 1: Australian female author, let's get behind her.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, fabulous, love it all right?
54:11
Speaker 4: Nice?
54:12
Speaker 3: So what have you got on this week? What have
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Speaker 3: I got on this week? I'm going to Melbourne for
54:16
Speaker 3: the third and final test between Australia and Fantastic. So exciting.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, And so you will be there for Liz
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Speaker 1: Watson fingers and toes cross that there's no type of
54:28
Speaker 1: scooter accident or something that prevents it from happening. But
54:31
Speaker 1: I'm so I would be absolutely going to Melbourne this
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Speaker 1: week if I wasn't off to New Zealand to see
54:35
Speaker 1: my mum. But that's going to be amazing and hopefully
54:39
Speaker 1: Cara Conan's fiftieth as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, be big celebrations. So I'm excited for Lizzie. So yeah,
54:44
Speaker 3: that'd be great fun. There you go, and then I
54:47
Speaker 3: just get to you know, between after that, I get
54:49
Speaker 3: to come home and just be a moba and drive
54:51
Speaker 3: children to sports.
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Speaker 1: There you go well, no, Arian van Dyke is going
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Speaker 1: to do that for them from now.
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Speaker 3: This is true. Good luck with that, and we'll have
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Speaker 3: Catherine back next week.
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Speaker 1: She is actually, as we speak, on a plane from
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Speaker 1: Perth back to Sydney where she gets to be here
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Speaker 1: for one night and then I think tomorrow is back
55:09
Speaker 1: on a plane to Melbourne. So she is exhausted but
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Speaker 1: doing a fantastic job. And we miss you Catherine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll see you next week.
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Speaker 1: See you next week by dribblers, Have a good one.