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Zeek Arkham - NYC, Socialism, Racism, and America's Future · World Ablaze with George Fontes

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okay everybody welcome back to another world of blaze i got a very special guest with me today
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as you can see this is zeke arkham he is a pretty well-known influencer online uh probably better
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known for being the cop with attitude and uh i did have a question for you like that as we talked
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offline because i remember you were referencing yourself as the original cop with attitude so
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I kind of wonder where that came from, but I'll let you explain that one if you want.
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Yeah, sure.
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Sure.
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Basically, it comes from when I first started my account before Zeke Arkham, my handle was
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CopWithAttitude.
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And then I moved to my name, Zeke Arkham, and someone else tried to take over the CopWithAttitude
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nickname, I guess.
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So people were getting confused.
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They were like, you know, is this your account?
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I said, no, it's not my account.
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And it was a completely different guy who was trying to ride on, I guess, the coattails of my original name.
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So I just I kind of just thought I called myself the original cop with attitude.
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And it's stuck.
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You know, it just kind of, I guess, forced a habit.
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It's stuck.
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People got used to hearing it because I said cop with attitude once.
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And so I got a DM from someone who said, I miss you saying the original cop with attitude.
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So I said, OK, sounds good.
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People got used to it.
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So I just started saying it.
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Now I say it and I don't even think about it.
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So it's really just a brain muscle memory, if you want to call it that.
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Yeah, it seems like people keep trying to ride up their coattails.
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I've seen recently that there's some imposter account going out there
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trying to say they're you on X anyway, from what I can tell.
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I mean, so it seems like you keep battling that.
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I mean, I get it.
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I like what you say.
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You don't pull any punches.
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You really get to the point and you call everybody out.
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So I really appreciate about you and your content.
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So let's go into a little history as far as you serving as a New York Police Department
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officer, serving in the New York Police Department, because I believe you're there for 20 years,
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correct?
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Did you recently retire?
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Yeah, recently retired.
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I retired actually a couple days ago.
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So everything I couldn't talk about before, I can talk about now.
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Really?
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I was kind of trying to stay under the radar as far as where I worked and what I did and things like that.
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But now that I can talk about it, I'm going to go for it.
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And when I first started this account, it was a pro cop page where I just started talking about different things that happened in different departments with cops.
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And I saw a lot of disinformation and misinformation out there.
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people who
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were
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I don't know they didn't call themselves
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experts but I guess they figured
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from watching so many TV shows
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you know like me personally I
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hate law and order just because it gives
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a skewed
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view of what police departments
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do and you had
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people out there saying oh no this is what happens
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in police precincts and this is what happens
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in police departments and you would read
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their bio and they were like you know
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soccer moms from the midwest
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so I started my account
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just talking about what really happens with cops
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and then it blew up
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it blew up, it started, you know, people started
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tuning in and so I said
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okay, I said, you know, you can only
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talk about cops and policing so much, what else
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can I talk about, so that's when I started talking
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about social issues and people
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more people tuned in and this is where we are now
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but yeah, I mean, now that I'm
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retired and now that I can
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really talk about things without
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getting blowback from the department, I'm
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all in
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Nice. So gloves are off basically, right?
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Right. Yeah. I don't have to worry about getting suspended.
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So let's, let's go then. So here, here's what I'm wondering. All right.
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Hot topic, New York, you know, ma'am, Donnie, we got the DSA,
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we got so much going on in America right now.
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And so I want to get your perspective as someone who served for 20 years in
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New York police department. What is New York to you?
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What it was New York to you then. And what is it now in, in your opinion?
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Honestly, New York will always be my home. You know, it was where I was born and raised. It was where I got my personality. I was able to watch it turn. You know, I was around when Times Square was nothing but sex shops and prostitutes on the corner and crime.
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And, you know, it was filth.
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But then you had, you know, places like Hell's Kitchen that had a history to it and a certain personality to it.
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I was there when all of the punk clubs were out there, you know, CBGBs and Coney Island High.
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You know, I was there for all of that.
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I went to shows there.
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A lot of bands that I loved played in these places.
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So I was there for that.
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And then I was able to watch Giuliani do what he did and basically Disney-fy Times Square.
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And while it lost some of its personality, it gained so much more regarding just commerce and business and tourism and things like that.
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So I was able to watch it turn from that to that.
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And then I was able to watch Bill de Blasio come in and say, yeah, I'm going to screw all this up.
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And that's exactly what he did.
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and people stopped trusting New York.
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You know, it lost its personality.
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It lost its history.
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It lost everything.
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Just because we had a mayor at the time
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who was just inept.
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He was inept.
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He had no clue.
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He didn't know what he was doing
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and the city got worse.
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And the worst part of that is,
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I guarantee you,
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if you speak to Bill de Blasio,
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he thinks he goes down in history
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as one of New York City's greatest mayors.
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But it's just not the case.
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unfortunately new york suffers from vote blue no matter who and nowadays they're suffering from
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vote dsa no matter who so if someone says they're democrat socialist and they say all the right
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buzzwords i'm going to give you free this i'm going to give you free that we're going to pay
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for this the city's going to pay for that we're going to get rid of we're going to lessen cops
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we're going to give criminals hugs and warm fuzzies uh you know we're gonna we're gonna
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reimagine what New York is. It seems like people want to vote for it. And these people who want to
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vote for it are the rich transplant kids who come here for the most part. So, you know, Thomas Sowell
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talks about the worst people to make decisions are the ones who don't have to suffer the
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repercussions. Mom Donnie, he's a Nepo baby. He's a rich kid. So if this all blows up, he can go back
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with his rich parents. Most of these people transplants, the transplants that come here and
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want to vote for Democrat socialist candidates, they're transplants. So if this all blows up,
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they can go back with mommy and daddy. You're stuck here with the real New Yorkers who now
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have to clean up the mess, who are left holding the bag. And that's what New York is to me now.
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Leaving New York because I live in Florida now, I don't miss it. You know, I had a Simon Gamora
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kind of situation where I left and I never looked back. And I never thought I'd be that way.
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I was the type of guy who said, you know, I'm New York born.
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I'm New York bred.
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And when the time is right, I'll be New York dead.
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You know, I never wanted to leave New York.
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But New York, I feel like I was kicked out.
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I feel like I was told I'm no longer welcome.
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And actually, Kathy Hochul actually did say that.
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Andrew Cuomo actually did say that.
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So me, people like me, people who vote like me, we're all leaving.
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And we're taking our tax dollars.
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We're taking our revenue with us.
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And now you have Kathy Hochul saying, hey, no, come back so you can help pay for these programs.
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Absolutely not, because they're programs that I don't want funded.
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You know, you have Mom Donnie who says the city's got no money, but he can fine $50 million for transgender kids.
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You have Kathy Hochul who says the state has no money, but she can bail out Mom Donnie because it's an election year.
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So this is what it represents to me now.
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And now it's actually going backwards.
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New York City is back with the crime and the prostitution and everything else that's going on.
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But it's losing its personality.
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It's losing its people.
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It's losing its soul.
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So now it's really just a soulless shell of what it once was.
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And honestly, I don't miss it.
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Yeah, a lot there, Zeke.
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And I have questions because I don't obviously live in New York.
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I'm a Californian.
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But I do like checking in on New York because it's one of the jewels of the United States of
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America. Right. And so what was the change for you though? Was it just under de Blasio or is it
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partly what you're seeing now until you left? Like once you start seeing the change with a,
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you know, it was vote blue, no matter who, but now it's vote DSA, no matter who. And then you
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got Mamdani there, the experiment, which I think needs to end by the way. It's just not working.
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So where did you see this change in the shift? Was it the city or was it you? I mean, what did
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you think it was that triggered your attitude towards New York at this moment?
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Not that you hate it.
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You didn't say you did.
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It's just you no longer prefer it at this point or the state of what it is at this moment.
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No, I mean, it started with de Blasio and then New York started voting in more DSA candidates.
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There was AOC, who I think is actually more of an actress than an actual socialist.
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You know, when she speaks, it's almost like she's trying to memorize the script.
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I'm not fully convinced yet she's a true to heart socialist.
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Yeah.
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But you have, you know, someone like de Blasio who ran on an anti-cop campaign and still got elected.
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Now, do I think he was New York City's first choice?
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No, I think he was what was left.
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But he still won and he still served two terms, which is horrible.
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It's a disgrace.
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You have Tiffany Caban, who she actually initially ran to be the Queens district attorney and lost.
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Thank God she lost. But she when she thought she won because all of a sudden they started finding votes.
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When she thought she won, she gave her victory speech at Rikers Island, which I don't know how anyone does that and has any kind of credibility.
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but she gave her victory speech at rikers island she's now a city councilwoman
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where she's spiking the football because she convinced the mayor not to hire
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something like 500 to 600 additional cops which honestly the nypd needs everybody you can get
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it needs everyone it can get not to lower standards but they need quality they need
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every quality candidate they can get so you have these people you they're you know they uh
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Mom Donnie got elected in. They had these, they just finished electing three more Democrat
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socialists, one of whom said that United States deserved 9-11, which I don't know how anyone
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can get elected into any office saying that. You know, I'm one of the guys who said I would never
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forget 9-11. I still remember it vividly. And I said, I'd never forget. And it seems like the city
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at large has forgotten. So this is where the city is right now. And like I said, this is why
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I'll always consider New York City home, but it doesn't hold that same place in my heart where it used to.
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Yeah.
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So as a former police officer, where is this stemming from, the aversion to police officers, like defunding the police, thinning out the police forces?
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There's a belief that cops bad for some reason.
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And I'm going to be honest with you.
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I've met some bad cops, but that's not the majority.
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I do curse, so here you go.
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There's fuck-ups everywhere, right?
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And so that's just what it is.
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And I'm not going to say that every police force is that in general.
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But as far as the discussion as it relates to New York,
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do the people in New York have an issue with police officers?
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Or is it just narratives and rhetoric and curated clips
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that are just being pushed on everybody
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to make the rest of the country think that's the case.
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Oh, it's absolutely secondhand information,
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narratives and clips.
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It's white guilt.
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You know, you have the white liberal Karens
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who think that they know what's best
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for black folks in the hood.
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They never venture into the hood themselves.
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They think they know what's best for these people.
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I can't tell you how many times
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after Stop Question Frisk
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was basically taken off the table for cops how many times people in East New York Brooklyn South Jamaica Queens St Albans Queens you know lower Queens village
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I can't tell you how many times people came up to us,
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cops, and said, you guys need to bring that back
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because crime is getting worse.
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But, you know, under de Blasio,
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it was, I mean, they didn't take it off the table,
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but any cop who did it now had to go through the wringer
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and prove that they weren't biased or racist or anything else like that.
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You know, basically, you're now being accused of something
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and you have to document your way out of it.
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So, you know, I think it's a lot of liberal, limousine liberal narratives
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that go against, you know, this whole anti-cop thing.
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Defund the police was never fully instituted, but they wanted to.
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They wanted to absolutely defund the police.
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And Mom Donnie wants to do it now.
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He wants to have his little neighborhood crime prevention team go out and, you know, fight crime with hugs and warm fuzzies.
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And, you know, you just sit down and you just talk to criminals and have a heart to heart with them and give them a pat on the head and tell them everything will be OK.
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This is what he wants. So and this is what a lot of the Democrat socialists want.
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And when it goes tits up, they're going to go, well, you know what? It's Trump's fault.
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It's it's the Republicans fault. It's J.D. Vance's fault. It's somebody else's fault.
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They're going to blame anyone but themselves and their little minions, their little DSA cult members, the ones who vote them into office are going to agree.
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So this is what happens. This is why socialism never works.
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And when you look at actual socialist countries, North Korea, Cuba, where there's, quote unquote, no crime and no real cops.
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Yeah. But guess what? Their their citizens are locked down.
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Their citizens are in fear of the government.
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So if you want to see where it works, yeah, it works in those places.
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But you guys are too mouthy to be living in fear of the government.
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So either you want freedom and you want opportunity and you want the free market and you want actual capitalism, which is working, or you want socialism.
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You want socialism so bad?
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Go ahead.
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Move to North Korea.
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Move to Cuba.
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They'll be happy to have you.
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Yeah.
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So...
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So I've been talking about this stuff myself for a while.
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But let me back you up a bit about Mount Downey.
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We brought him up a few times, his name.
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Obviously, well, it doesn't seem like you're a fan.
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I don't blame you.
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So what led to him being elected, honestly?
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Like in your opinion, like why him?
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What brought him into the limelight, number one?
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And two, why did New York vote for him?
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like what what happened here honestly in my opinion i think i think he was what was left
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the same way de blasio got elected i think he was what was left uh you had you had uh eric adams
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who a lot of people just weren't happy with at all right right a lot of people just really were
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not happy with him you had andrew cuomo who was still very much disliked over how he handled
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COVID and a lot of things he said and did during COVID.
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And then on the other hand, on the other side,
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you had Curtis Sliwa who came across as, as, you know,
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your crazy uncle who lives in the basement and comes out every now and again
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and screams at people and yells at birds and points at the sky and then goes
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back down to his basement, which, you know, you like him, but he's crazy.
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And then it's like, okay, well, who's left?
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Well, here's this slick talking 30 something year old from Uganda who was in a
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rap group who seems okay and cool and he smiles at everyone. Can't bench press 135 pounds to save
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his life, but he's this kid who comes along and talks about free buses and free apartments and
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free government-run stores and we're going to sell at cost and you're going to slash $100 off
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your grocery bill. And he had no real plan on how to do it, but he wants to do it. And he's going to
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make this legal. He's going to make that legal. And then he's going to have violence interrupters.
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And, you know, we need to reimagine policing. We need to do this. And all of the Democrats flock
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to him. And AOC, oh, this is my bestie. I'm going to hang out with him. Bernie Sanders comes along.
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Oh, this is the guy who's going to lead us all into the next generation of socialism because he's
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a real socialist. And this is what happens. So he's this slick-talking snake oil salesman,
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kind of like Obama was back in the day. And people fell in love with him. And I give it
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about this, about until about this time next year, before people really start seeing through
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what he's doing. And I'm praying, I'm hoping and praying that New Yorkers wake up before they don't
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have a city anymore. I mean, listen, de Blasio, I curse too. De Blasio fucked everything up.
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It's like that Cat Williams joke. He fucked up everything. Everything, everything. Gas, water, air, everything. And that's it. And thankfully, he didn't screw things up too badly. I think, but also because de Blasio was also clout chasing.
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de Blasio's main barrier to everything he wanted to do was he was too busy clout chasing
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he was too busy hiding under Hillary Clinton's tits and trying to win her over he was too busy
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trying to appease the Democrat party he was too busy trying to appease socialists which he's
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actually admitted before you know he was he was wondering about what his socialist comrades were
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thinking he was too busy trying to be the next leader of the Democrats and the socialists at the
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same time. He was too busy trying to run for president. What makes Mom Donnie so dangerous
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is that Mom Donnie isn't trying to do any of that. Mom Donnie isn't trying to run for president.
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Mom Donnie isn't trying to clout chase. Mom Donnie already has the clout. Elizabeth Warren
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is already hugging up on him. AOC is already hugging up on him. Bernie Sanders is already
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hugging up on him. So he's free to do what he wants to do. And you already have businesses
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and people leaving the city in droves.
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And then Kathy Hochul is trying to hug up on them.
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People are already leaving the state in droves.
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You can only spend so much of everyone else's money
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before you run out of money,
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which is another thing Thomas Sowell said.
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So yeah, I hope New York City wakes up.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about it.
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Okay, well, I hope that New Yorkers wake up
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so this shit doesn't spread.
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Let's just be honest.
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We don't need to have this model duplicated and then dropped into the next big state, for example.
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And crazy enough is we already have Gavin Newsom saying that, you know, capitalism isn't really working out how it's intended.
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So he was just on camera saying that, which is crazy.
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So let's talk about Momdani a little bit more, and then we're going to move on because, you know, you've said a lot, and I agree with a lot of what you said.
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But the thing with Mamdani and socialism is what I see happen here is I think Republicans,
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conservatives dropped the ball, especially when it came to the educational system.
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You look at universities and everything's owned by the left.
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Now, the left or the Democrat Party has adopted the DSA, thinking that by expanding their
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voter base, that's going to help them against conservatives.
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What they really did was open the door for this Trojan horse to come into the party.
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And now they're winning midterms and they're going to be on the ballot for congressional
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seats come November, which is not what we need.
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and even the Democrat Party realizes, oh, we fucked up. I don't know about the socialist thing.
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I'm a capitalist. And now that we have that going on. So Mamdani is younger comparatively to most
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other candidates that were out there, correct? And so he appeals to that youth. The problem with
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socialism is appeals to people who don't have money. I mean, when I was in my 20s, I didn't
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have a lot of money. A lot of everyone coming out starting their careers don't have money.
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And so they're playing on people's emotions, on the fact that they're frustrated. They don't have
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any cash. They can't buy a house. I mean, it's not easy to buy a house no matter how much you make
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these days. Not necessarily true, but just saying that that's what happened here. They went for the
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youth. The youth got behind the movement. Then they intertwined Palestine into that because
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everyone was hating Israel. So now they got into that thing, right? And then we're looking at the
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DSA itself isn't the same party it was. Even the founder was very worried. In 2023, they noticed a
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change in a shift where they started adopting more and more known Marxists, literal Marxists,
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into the party. And now they're adopting and bringing in Islamists, which is crazy because
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Islam and socialism, right? But at the same time, they're calling themselves Islamist socialists.
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So now we have this intertwining of Islamist socialist, DSA party, people who still believe
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that socialism will work and actual true Marxists. The DSA doesn't even really have an identity
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right now at this point, but they're winning because all they're going to tell you is
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the big millionaire is a bad guy and we need some of his money because you're poor and he's the
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reason you're poor. That's what you're telling everybody. You can't buy a house and you have a
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right to unionize. Well, I hate to tell everybody, you always had a right to unionize and money comes
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with time. So I think that's what happened here. I think it got to the point where with the economy
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being what it was under Biden, we had the inflation and then Trump came in. And let's
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just be quite honest. I'm a Trump fan, so I'm not going to fight you on this, but the inflation,
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we're still dealing with some things. I'm going to tell you my business took a hurt and it's still
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hurting right now. So I know firsthand as a business owner what I'm going through.
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So I think it was just ripe. It was just the right situation for the youth to be easily
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manipulated and molded and preached to. They bought a hook, line, and sinker. And now we have
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a hard time righting the ship. And even the Democrat Party is going, damn it, what are we
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going to do here? And the thing about AOC, which is crazy, because I don't think she was ever
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originally a DSA member. I think it was just the current thing to be a part of, right? I think they
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saw Mamdani as someone who was charismatic and then someone who could push the Democrat party
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to the next level, right? Because they didn't have anybody. So there's the danger, in my opinion.
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I hope it's over soon, just as you said. I think this experiment isn't working. But
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since I already brought up the Islamic tie, what is your opinion on the increase of Islam
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in America right now? Because we see very, well, there's many examples, but let's just look at
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Texas, for example, there's been two communities that have been trying to build over there that
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were supposed to be basically, I'll just say like walled off, but basically gated communities that
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they want their own schools, their own police force, everything. We see that push trying to
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push that over there in Minnesota. We have other examples of that in Kansas, which has
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also had a large Muslim or Islamic community as well. But it seems different. It seems like there's
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more of a push towards pushing their agenda, right?
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And going back to Mamdani in the DSA, he was on camera basically saying literally at a DSA
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convention that their goal is to get more DSA people elected so that they can basically
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take control of the means of production and basically change the government.
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So what do you think about the rise in Islamic, well, in Islam in America and your thoughts
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on these private communities that they're trying to push?
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Oh, wow.
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That was a lot.
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I'm sorry.
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Yeah, no, let me just start off by saying, I mean, listen, I have friends who are Muslim.
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Yeah.
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And I make a difference between Muslim and Islamists because I have friends who are Muslim.
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I've worked with Muslim cops, and they honestly just want to live their lives, go home to their families, practice their religion and peace.
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They're not trying to bother anyone.
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But then you have Islamists, of which I count Mamdani as an Islamist, who their goal is to take over. Their goal is domination. When you hear that Muslim call to prayer, excuse me, Islamist call to prayer at 5 p.m. or whatever like that, to me, that's domination.
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when you when you when you hear people saying you not uh the united states deserved 9-11
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to me that's domination when you when you when you uh when you see them trying to build mosques
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all over the country to me that's domination um and when you see like when you know what's
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happening in minnesota where they're slowly just trying to push for for their way of life to take
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over. To me, that's domination.
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And to me, it actually
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lines right up with Marxism
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and
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socialism and communism because
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in all of those practices there is no room for dissension There is no room for different opinions There is no room for debate
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It's do what I say.
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And, you know, I caution this country because, you know, you can vote yourself into that, but you can't vote yourself out of it.
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And so, you know, to me, it's to the point where I'm glad that I live where I live.
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And I'm glad that they take stands where they take stands.
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But like I said, I worry about places like New York.
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I worry about places like, well, Minnesota is already gone.
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Minneapolis is already gone.
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You know, Texas, they're trying.
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They're trying.
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Trying hard.
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you know, California, I'm sorry to say, bro, is going.
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Oh, I already know.
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Yeah, if it's not gone already.
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So, you know, I think in the United States, you know,
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I see what's going on in England.
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I see what's going on in London.
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And I don't want that to happen here, you know.
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So I think people need to be very cautious
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about who they're voting into office,
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what they're allowing,
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and what's going on just in their neighborhoods.
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Like I said, I have friends who are Muslim
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and they're not looking to take over.
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They're just looking to live their lives
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and live with their families
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and practice their religion in peace,
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fine, well, and good,
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just like most Christians want to live their lives
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and practice their religion in peace.
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But it's not anti, it's not Islamophobic.
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I hate that phrase.
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It's not anti-Islam to say that there is a contingent there that is very radical.
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Radical Islamists are responsible for 9-11.
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And it's not, you know, the narrative has changed when they say, you know,
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now they're trying to make it seem like the planes flew themselves into the World Trade Center.
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And we don't really have to focus on the pilots who did it.
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You know, there was a whole big thing in the Daily News a couple years ago.
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where they basically, the headline made it seem like, you know, the planes just flew themselves
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into the building. No, radical Islamists hijacked the plane and flew them into the building.
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You know, it's not, you know, you can say that, you can say that, you know, it's not all Muslims
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who did it, but there is a radical contingent that did it. And, and you can't say that nowadays.
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And I think it was Thomas Sowell or was it George Orwell?
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It was George Orwell who said, be careful of who you cannot criticize because those are the people who own you.
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And now we're seeing it happen in real life.
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So let's back up a bit because you said something I agree with, you know, Muslims versus extremists, right?
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But by definition, a Muslim is someone who practices Islam.
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You're a person who has friends that are Muslim.
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So I'm going to ask you, how do we determine what's the distinction here?
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Because in my view, you said something else that I agree with when you referenced Christianity.
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And I've always said this.
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Christians today, if we live like we did in the Old Testament, we would be cutting people's hands off and stoning them, right?
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But we evolved and we live in a modern world and we adapt it to modern times.
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I think the problem we see is we got too many examples of extreme Islamists who are very rigid, who want to practice it as it was written roughly around 1400 years ago or whatever.
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And they don't want to evolve.
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And I see people who are born of this world, newer generations, they're born Muslim.
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You don't get a choice of where you're born, but they live in the modern world.
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And they're like, I don't know about all this extreme BS, right?
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So in your opinion, working with people on the job, how do we distinguish?
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What is a defining character that separates an extremist from a Muslim?
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Because I know they're not the same, but I just want to hear from you what your opinion is of that distinction.
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Honestly, for me, it's just listening to what they say.
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It's talking to them.
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You can make the same argument with any group of people.
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Yeah.
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You know, I was on a podcast two days ago where I said, hey, listen, if you see one thing over and over again, you tend to form an opinion and you forget that not everyone is like that.
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For example, if you go on X and you see video after video of black folks acting crazy and getting in fights in the Chuck E. Cheese or fighting at a Waffle House.
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You know, if you take just that, you think all black folks are crazy.
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and then you go out into the world and you see black folks are out there working they're out
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there doing their thing they're out there you know living their lives fine if you if you go on x and
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everyone's calling you the n-word every you know like like for me and my dms every now and again i
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kick the uh the chud uh hornet's nest yeah and uh i get dms and people are calling me all kinds
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of names on that if i just go by social media you think every white person's out there to get you
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Then you go outside and you realize, no, it's a very small minority.
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Same thing with Muslims, radical Islamists.
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There are Muslims who just want to live their lives, like I said, and just want to go out there and be with their families.
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But you have people like Mamdani, where me personally, it makes me sick to my stomach that he's breaking ground on World Trade Center 2, that they're building right now.
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It makes me sick to my stomach.
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However, you know, you talk to them, you listen to how they, what they're saying, you listen to their messages, you listen to how they speak, and you make the determination.
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Yeah, you know what?
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He's an Islamist.
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He wants to take over.
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He's admitted before he wants to take over.
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He wants to rule as a socialist Muslim.
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I shouldn't say rule, govern, in his words, govern.
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No, he wants to rule.
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Yeah, but yeah.
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I mean, he's part of the extremist side where it's all about conquest and subjugation.
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And that's an unfortunate reality.
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I get that.
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I'm just using his words.
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Go on.
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But we know what he wants to do.
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Yeah.
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I know you are.
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But, okay, so it's good for you to say that from your perspective based on your interactions,
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you know, working with people every day.
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Because I'm one of those that I want to believe people are born.
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They want to be good.
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They just want to live.
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look, we're just trying to get through life, all of us. We've got bills to pay. Whatever it is
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that we're born into, we're just trying to eat, drink, and maybe have some shelter, right?
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We're not trying to deal with the noise. And unfortunately, when we see Islam being represented,
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we always have to look at the Middle East and we look at these extremist groups, these terrorist
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groups, and they seem to dominate the conversation while the people who are just trying to live their
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lives and be good are just brushed under the rug as being part of this whole really bad part of
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Islam, right? Which is really
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not real Islam. If you
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look at it, it's a group
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of people or a bunch of people taking advantage of a
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system to easily manipulate
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others and control them to do
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their bidding, really. Because you're
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not seeing the leaders going out and doing half the stuff
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that these extremists are doing.
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So, it's an unfortunate reality.
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So,
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with that being said, let's go into
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well, let's stay on
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the subject of what you were just talking
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about, who we're talking about. You can see different people
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races, et cetera, because I mean, sure. You know, if you see something that's an example and it's
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always repeated and you kind of get the idea like, well, this must be how everybody is. I mean,
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you can call white people toothless meth heads too, right? What do they do? You know, run booze
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and whatnot, I guess they still do that. Kentucky. So, I mean, whatever. White people have their
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thing too, believe me. So you've been known for calling people out though, and this is what I
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wanted to get into, but you're not singling any one side out is what I like. You're just
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I remember watching one of your recent posts where you were saying,
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basically,
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look,
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I'll call out every individual.
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It doesn't matter what their skin color was basically,
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or the race.
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It's like,
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I'm calling you out for who you are.
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And you seem to get some backlash because let's just be honest.
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If it's a,
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if it's a black person,
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they tend to get on you in the comments and go,
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wait,
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why are you talking down about your own people?
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And it's like,
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it's,
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I think it's a bit ridiculous because I don't see you being negative or
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necessarily positive to either side,
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either way.
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You're just like,
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Hey,
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this is stupid behavior.
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Why are you doing this?
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You know?
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What, what's your thoughts on, on all the backlash you get for just calling things out?
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Well, truth hurts, you know, people, people, people want to be hugged.
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They don't want the truth.
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So if I call out black folks for doing something stupid, I get called a coon.
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I get called an uncle Tom.
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I get called a race trader.
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I get called every name in the book.
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Okay, fine.
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Well, I'm good.
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But then when I call out what I call the white is right crowd, you know, who I call the chud
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lickers who, you know, online, they want to call people this and call people that. And, you know,
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they want to be racist. You know, it's like a Call of Duty lobby where, you know, they want to be
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racist towards someone. They want to, they have all this, all this courage online. Oh yeah. You
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know, you know, for a fact in real life, they're not going to say a word to you. No, I call those
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guys out. I call out white female liberals who say stupid stuff and treat black folks like their
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pets, you know, I have to, there was a, there was a guy, I made a video a couple of days ago,
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a guy who said, you know, when I go out with my black friends, I'm responsible for their safety.
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No, you're not. No, you're not. They're fine. You know? So, you know, I call out everyone,
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but I do know, I realized I got called out by, by a failed Chicago politician.
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and she was upset because I quote unquote,
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never post positive things about black folks.
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What do you want me to post?
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Do you want me to go in?
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Oh, hey, listen, you know,
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black folks are just wonderful today.
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You know, let's just go,
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everybody go ahead and cheer for black folks.
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No, I'm not doing that.
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You know, if someone, if I, you know,
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I'm not going to go out there
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and go out of my way to cheer
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what people should be doing.
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I'm not going to go out of my way
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to cheer people for being good dads.
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because you should be a good dad.
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I'm not going to go out of my way to cheer someone
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for being a law-abiding citizen
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because you should be a law-abiding citizen.
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I'm not going to go out of my way to cheer someone
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for doing what they should be doing.
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What I do, what I am going to do
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is when I see a stupid video of someone doing something stupid,
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whether they're black, white, or anything else,
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I'm going to call them out on it
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because that's behavior that can't be ignored.
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It shouldn't be ignored.
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It's something that should be called out.
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You make the problem go away by calling it out, by identifying it, by saying, hey, listen, this is wrong.
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And hopefully more people call it out as well so that the problem gets fixed.
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That's what I do.
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So if someone is upset because I'm not going out of my way to praise black folks, well, then you've got the wrong account because I don't go out of my way to praise anyone.
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I'm not saying white folks are wonderful.
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I just I love white folks.
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I don't do those posts either.
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So what's your point?
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But she's a failed Chicago politician.
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She is a segregationist.
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And she's part of the problem because she thinks that I should just be focusing on the good.
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No, I'm not going to focus on the good.
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That's how you get mugged.
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I'm not focusing on the good.
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I'm going to focus on what needs to be fixed in society.
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And that's what my platform has always been.
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do you think that you're like unfairly being held to a different standard when it comes to
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putting your content out and calling these things out no it's like i said people don't like the
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truth people want to be hugged people want to be told everything is okay it's a victim mentality
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you know it's the same it's it's when i i talk about the chud lickers but as i call them they
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go well you don't know what chud was out there doing yes i do i watch his videos i know exactly
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As a racist, honestly.
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Yeah, I know exactly what he was doing.
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He was kicking the hornet's nest for likes and clicks and popularity.
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And guess what?
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And he fucked around and found out.
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And now he's in prison.
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And he's, from what I'm reading about what's going on in his trial,
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he is up the creek without a paddle, as my mom used to say.
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I mean, that guy I never talked about, to be honest, on my show.
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Because I didn't pay attention.
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I don't like the guy.
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Honestly, I didn't like what he was doing.
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I didn't agree with it.
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He was doing exactly what you said.
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kicking the hornet's nest, trying to get likes and clicks.
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And he was just being a blatant racist,
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thinking that because he's some social media influencer
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with all his fault, he can just get away with it.
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But, you know, it doesn't translate to the real world, right?
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So I'm glad that she said that because it's very true.
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He did fuck around and find out.
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And I glad he going to jail for what he did You know it just bottom line And look here the other thing that I see a lot And this whole narrative of fatigue right Black fatigue white fatigue freaking brown fatigue
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yellow fatigue, whatever.
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I mean, this is where I'm going to go with this
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because in my opinion, in 2026,
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why are we still fucking talking about race?
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Why are we still talking about racial tensions?
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I mean, why is it not dead yet?
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Because I remember, let me see.
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Let's say late nineties going into early two thousands or whatnot.
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And in my mind, it felt like it was starting to like, even out.
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And people are like, you know what?
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We can all get along.
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I remember growing up.
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It's like all my friends were all colors.
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Like we all got along.
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We didn't look at each other, you know, like that.
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We're just respecting each other, you know, just for who we are.
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And, and, you know, we do our thing.
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And now it seems like we're going back, like, I guess regressing, you know, we're going back
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to the, like you said, the divide, right?
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What's behind that?
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Because I think the average person wants to let that go.
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Like, where do you think this is coming from?
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Honestly, from the people I see on social media, it's easy likes and clicks and popularity and follows.
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And, you know, they're doing it because they found out that, you know, there was a guy I was friends with for a while.
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And he found out that, you know, hey, listen, I can get popular.
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I can get follows.
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I can get extra likes.
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I can get extra clicks.
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if I weaponize race and then I unfollowed him and he said I quote unquote left him on the cross
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there's someone else who uh another a female uh person with a lot of uh followers and and I
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actually helped her out with her account I helped I helped her I used to boost her stuff and then
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she realized hey listen if I post about racial stuff if I just uh if I just forward uh uh black
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folks acting crazy and throw my little commentary on it. Hey, listen, I can go ahead and get extra
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likes and followers and clicks. And that's what she started doing. And I just associated with her.
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You got people like Valentina Gomez, who has no real platform to run on. She just likes being
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provocative. So I had to step away from her. I mean, I've told people over and over again,
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one thing I am not going to ever endorse. I'm not the Hodge twins. I'm never going to endorse
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racism against anyone. I'm never going to endorse hate speech towards anyone. I'm never going to
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endorse, you know, calling for beating people up or anything else like that. That's not who I am.
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That's not what I do. However, if you have an actual message and you have an actual, I just
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want this to get better and you're just exposing certain things, fine, well, and good. I'm with you
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all day. But if you want to weaponize racism, whether it's on either side, whether you're
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trying to weaponize white folks towards racism, if you're trying to weaponize black folks towards
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racism, I can't mess with you. I can't be a part of that. So there's a lot of people I've had to
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step away from. I mean, it's easy. It's easy likes and clicks and follows. I'd be up to about 700,000
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by now if I did that, if I followed that formula. But I also have to look at myself
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in the mirror at the end of every day and say to myself, hey, listen, I did the best I could.
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And that's what I do. So I'm not out there trying to do that.
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Yeah, but sadly, I mean, outside of social media, Zeke, it is easy
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likes and clicks, right? But it's not just people on social media.
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It's our politicians that are pushing this stuff. It's educators that are pushing this stuff.
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And they're doing it subversively. It's not necessarily
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throwing your face, but they're saying the right keyword, the right thing. It's like,
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you know, oh, the lesser than, the impoverished, you know, the minorities.
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I mean, everything that they say is basically a way to pin, you know, people of color versus
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white.
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And then after that, it's like black versus brown.
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And they do it intentionally.
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So I don't think it's just the people on social media.
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It's like, well, look at, not to cut you off, but look at who's doing it.
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Who's doing it?
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Al Sharpton, Ben Crump.
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Right.
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You know, who's weaponizing racism?
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People who have absolutely no other platform.
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Al Sharpton, Ben Crump, Jasmine Crockett, who is an elected official.
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But what has she actually done?
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You know, this new chick, I made a video about her just now.
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You know, what else do they have?
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Ayanna Pressley, Ilhan Omar.
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What have they actually done while in Congress?
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What can you look at and say, you know what?
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I'm so glad Ilhan Omar was there or else this would have never gotten accomplished and this
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country would be screwed.
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What have they actually done?
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They've done nothing.
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So this is all they have.
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And then to another degree on social media, like I said, it's a call of duty lobby.
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It's people calling each other the N-words.
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People say, I'm going to sleep with your mother.
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People calling, you know, black folks calling white folks this and saying this because they want to go viral.
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That's the new thing now.
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No one wants to actually take accountability for themselves.
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Or if a black person gets pulled over by cops, oh, it's because I'm black.
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No, it's because you were speeding down the road with a weed cigarette hanging out your window while you were drinking.
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That's why you got pulled over.
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The cop did not pull you over because you're black.
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Trust me, as someone who has pulled people over, you don't know who you're pulling over until you are right on the car.
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There are times like, you know, if you're pulling someone over for a cell phone, you see the cell phone, but that is all you see.
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You don't know who you're pulling over.
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I've pulled over people before
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where I had no idea they were black
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until I actually got to the car
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and then
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I've been accused of
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pulling someone over for
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driving while black so I mean it's just the
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dumbest stupidest thing
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you've been accused of profiling?
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yeah but I mean it's the dumbest
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stupidest thing and people who are
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using racism as a crutch
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like this is because they have nothing
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else look at the people on
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social media who are
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pulling the race card over and over and over again.
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What other platform do they have?
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Are they talking about social economic issues?
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Are they talking about community issues?
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Are they talking about liberal versus conservative
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versus left versus right?
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Are they talking about anything else?
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No, all they have is that race card.
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So that's where I leave them where they are.
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I think you're right.
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And I agree with that because, you know, example,
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these people do try to talk about those issues you brought up.
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But when they realize they themselves can't even back their own arguments, whatever they're trying to say, they realize that there's no substance to it and they get called out for it.
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Then they revert back to racism because it's the easy card to pull, right?
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So it's like, yeah, I mean, you're spot on.
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And you mentioned Ilhan Omar earlier.
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Look, I don't know why she hasn't been deported yet.
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I don't understand how.
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Okay, I wasn't going to ask this, but let's talk about it.
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What is your opinion on dual citizenship in the United States of America?
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If you're a private citizen, I have no problem with it.
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If you are an elected official, you have to pick one.
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One or the other.
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Because you have people like Ilhan Omar saying that she considers herself to be a Somalian.
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Somali person.
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Instead of the United States.
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there was another
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elected official, another congresswoman
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who said she considers herself to be
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I think Venezuelan
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before she's American
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I forgot who that was
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I did a video on it, I don't remember her name
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but she said the exact
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same thing, she considered herself
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she said she was Venezuelan before she was American
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any
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elected official
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saying that needs to be impeached immediately
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immediately
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if you are holding a dual citizenship and you become an elected official even before i think
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even before you run for office you need to pick and if you are and if and if you if your alliance
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is to the other country then no you can't be elected and if and if you are elected and you
47:02
say that you need to be impeached immediately because i want my politicians to be america first
47:08
and like I said
47:10
just the fact that we are electing
47:12
people who are America
47:14
second, third,
47:17
fourth is disgraceful.
47:19
It is. I believe in elected
47:20
official.
47:23
It's funny, you're echoing a lot of
47:24
what I've said before and I love to
47:26
hear this because it's true. If you're an elected
47:28
official, your duty is
47:30
to America, period.
47:32
Your sole focus is the concerns
47:34
and the safety of America
47:36
and the betterment of Americans living
47:38
in the United States of America that you represent, period.
47:41
You shouldn't have an out.
47:42
I don't believe you should have a foot on each side of the river, right?
47:45
And just depending on which one feels better, you just kind of jump over.
47:49
And dual citizenship for me too, it doesn't matter.
47:52
It doesn't matter if it's Somali, Venezuelan, Israeli.
47:55
It doesn't matter.
47:56
I don't think any other flag should be flown in your office,
47:59
in your halls as a representative other than the United States flag, right?
48:04
And I feel the same way for educational institutions.
48:07
There shouldn't be any other flag.
48:08
except the U.S. flag, period.
48:10
Because when you're flying all these other flags,
48:11
they're trying to say that,
48:12
well, we're just respecting the roots of where people are
48:14
and recognizing the cultures.
48:15
No, you're actually teaching people
48:17
that we're a borderless nation
48:20
and nothing more than an economic zone
48:21
without actually saying it.
48:23
It's basically, we're not America.
48:25
We're everything.
48:27
You're not defining what America is
48:29
and you're not really defining
48:30
what it is to be a patriot.
48:32
And these are just subversive little messages
48:35
that has been played out.
48:36
And it does play on our psyche.
48:39
It really does.
48:40
So I'm in total agreeance with you.
48:43
And I want the race hustle to end, man.
48:45
I hope we can get to that point.
48:46
Like I said, I think the average person on the street is done with it.
48:49
And they forget about it.
48:50
And then here comes social media.
48:52
Here comes the politician, like you said, who has no substance to their argument.
48:56
They got to fall back because they realize that they got no meat, right, to their argument.
49:00
They have nothing.
49:01
So, yeah, I hope this ends as well.
49:03
I really do.
49:05
I'm going to ask you this.
49:06
Because being a police officer, you've seen the best and the worst of people, okay?
49:13
20 years.
49:15
And given your experience, I mean, do you have hope for humanity?
49:19
I mean, do you see the future of America as being a bright future?
49:27
Yes and no.
49:28
Yes and no.
49:30
I think most people are good people.
49:36
I think most people wake up every day.
49:39
They love their families.
49:40
They love, you know, they love those who are close to them.
49:45
You know, they go out there and try to do the best they can.
49:48
Only reason I say no is because I think people are naive.
49:51
I think people think that you can trust bad guys out there more than you should.
50:03
What do I mean by that?
50:04
I think people think that, A, whatever is going on out in the world will never get to their doorstep.
50:10
So when they see, you know, people being released from jail who aren't penitent of their crimes,
50:19
when you see people, when you see socialism going around,
50:24
when you see, you know, just people who just have evil intentions out there,
50:30
they don't believe it'll ever get to their doorstep.
50:32
they think that's going to be a them problem
50:35
and they're never going to have to worry about it
50:37
so they're going to keep voting the way they vote
50:38
and I think that they're naive
50:42
because it very well could get to their doorstep
50:45
and they're going to have to deal with it
50:46
I think people
50:48
I say even like these limousine liberal Karens
50:54
don't realize how bad they are
50:57
I think they think they're doing the best they can
51:00
this guy who said he's got to look out for his black friends
51:04
I think he truly believes in his heart
51:07
he's got to look out for them without realizing the racism
51:10
behind that statement. I think that's how a lot of these
51:13
liberals feel, these leftist Karens who
51:15
they feel like they're fighting for black people
51:18
black folks don't need you to fight for them
51:22
I had a friend
51:25
in college, a friend, that's
51:28
loose. But he was a he's a Democrat socialist and he truly believed he was a good person.
51:39
Now, a lot of the stuff he said was very abusive. A lot of the stuff he believed in was very
51:45
counterproductive to everything. But he truly believed he was doing the right thing. And there's
51:50
everyone else who was wrong. I don't know if that's narcissism. I don't know if that's a
51:54
some sort of sociopathy, but he truly believed he was doing the right thing.
51:59
And I think that's what's going to lead to,
52:01
downfall of certain parts of America.
52:04
I think all these people who voted for Mom Donnie and think that, you know,
52:08
they're just voting for free stuff and they're voting for,
52:10
for the people and they're voting against billionaires and big business and
52:15
all that. I think they truly believe they're doing the right thing.
52:18
The only problem is it's not, it's not realistic.
52:23
So you keep voting in these people who might be truly evil.
52:27
And I'm not, I'm not going to sit here and call Mom Donnie evil,
52:30
but his intentions, I think, are evil.
52:33
But it's going to lead us down a bad path.
52:39
And that's why I say yes and no,
52:42
because I think some people believe in their heart
52:44
they're doing the right thing,
52:46
but they vote for people who are horrible people.
52:49
If you can look at what happened on 9-11
52:52
and say the United States deserved it,
52:54
I think you are a horrible, evil person.
52:56
If you can sit and let go criminals
52:59
who have no intention of changing their ways and go, oops, oh, well, if they kill someone,
53:06
they kill someone. Oh, well. I think you're a horrible person. And I think that's what's
53:11
going to lead to the downfall of some parts of this country. Yeah. Yeah. Look, what's funny is
53:17
we brought up socialism a few times just because it's being pushed, right? So hard.
53:24
And I've had arguments with people that tried to claim, well, true socialism has never been
53:29
really done correctly.
53:31
Well, it has not worked since its inception, I think, over how many years.
53:36
But we haven't seen a true example of it ever working because if you do true socialism with
53:40
a socialist economy, eventually the system can't feed itself.
53:44
It doesn't generate any more money to keep things going or resources, right?
53:48
And then the other argument they try to make is it will abolish the class system.
53:53
But you're creating a new class system.
53:55
It's basically those who can rule and those who are ruled.
53:57
and now you're in a position where you're holding your hand out to your leader,
54:02
hoping that they give you enough to live on because the resources are controlled by the state.
54:07
And then if you're talking about work, right?
54:10
Some people have argued, well, you know, doctors could get paid a certain amount and this and that.
54:14
Yeah, but that's if the state determines that a doctor is worth just as much as a cobbler, right?
54:19
Or someone digging a ditch.
54:21
There's no guarantee.
54:22
There's no guarantee there's going to be a separation.
54:24
And so they're never going to become rich.
54:27
they're never going to become successful,
54:30
I guess,
54:31
in the sense of they can push beyond who they are,
54:33
where they want to be,
54:33
because they're going to enter a system in where the powers that be,
54:38
you're going to dictate your life and everything that you can and cannot
54:40
have.
54:41
And you said it earlier,
54:42
perfect examples being Cuba,
54:43
North Korea,
54:44
Argentina,
54:45
plenty of examples.
54:47
We got the USSR,
54:49
you know,
54:49
that eventually collapsed,
54:51
took them about 70 years or so,
54:52
but it did,
54:53
it did,
54:53
it did come to a,
54:54
to a screeching halt for sure.
54:56
And even if you look at China,
54:57
pure communist nation built on socialist principles had to turn to capitalism to what?
55:02
Get money and enter the marketplace.
55:03
So it just doesn't work.
55:06
I wish that we can, I mean, I'm going to continue.
55:11
I'm sure you are.
55:12
I wish we can continue to educate the youth who are frustrated because again, they're frustrated
55:16
because of their position in life.
55:18
They're young.
55:18
They just started their lives.
55:20
I mean, it will get better if they wanted to, right?
55:22
But what my concern is here, Zeke, you're obviously a conservative.
55:31
Conservatarian, I call myself, conservatarian.
55:33
Fair enough, conservatarian.
55:35
But my concern is, you know, with all the infighting with conservatives, right?
55:40
And then you have MAGA, which we can argue it should be its own party or maybe isn't,
55:45
regardless, there seems to be this infighting.
55:48
And then you got what they call podcastistan, the podcasters here that
55:52
seem to dominate the political narrative and rhetoric.
55:56
And from the outside looking in,
55:58
I mean,
55:58
how can you convince someone that the conservative side or conservatarian
56:04
side is,
56:06
is,
56:06
is the right track.
56:09
Honestly,
56:09
you,
56:10
you can't,
56:11
you just have to let people get where they are you know and and sort of just speak truth to them You know there no way to sugarcoat it Yes you going to have to get up and get a job Yes you going to have to pay back all your loans
56:24
Yes, if you took out a predatory loan in college,
56:27
you're going to have to pay it back.
56:28
I wish somebody would have educated you not to take that predatory loan.
56:32
Right.
56:32
But you're going to have to do so.
56:34
You know, maybe we could speak to the colleges
56:36
to see why they're charging so much.
56:39
Maybe we could get an itemized list from the colleges
56:41
to see exactly why they're charging.
56:43
Why is NYU charging you $30,000 a semester?
56:48
Why is Columbia charging you $50,000 a semester?
56:51
What exactly is that money going to?
56:54
Because someone's got to tell me that.
56:56
It's not that they're paying for the land.
56:58
They're not paying for the buildings.
56:59
They're not paying for anything else.
57:02
What exactly are they paying for?
57:04
So maybe we can take the focus off of
57:06
just paying off your student loans
57:09
to why is this student loan so high?
57:12
You know, you just have to tell people the truth.
57:17
I tell a story all the time about how, you know,
57:19
I was about 22, 23 years old.
57:23
And I was bitching to my mom about how life was so unfair for me.
57:28
You know, I told her I was just bitching at her.
57:30
I was like, you know, I didn't get this growing up.
57:31
I didn't have that growing up.
57:33
And I didn't get this.
57:34
I didn't get that.
57:35
And this is unfair.
57:35
And that's unfair too.
57:37
And I should have had more.
57:39
And my mom let me rant.
57:40
And at the end of it, she said, you know what?
57:42
You are 100% right.
57:43
You should have had all that.
57:45
Now get over it.
57:46
Because no one's going to feel sorry for you.
57:49
When you go on a job interview, they're not going to care that you grew up in a one-bedroom apartment in a Roachville department on a fifth-floor walk-up because the elevator didn't work half the time.
57:58
No one's going to care that your father wasn't around.
58:00
No one is going to care.
58:04
So get over it.
58:06
I was butthurt for like a week, man.
58:08
And I was pissed off for like a week.
58:11
And I said, you know what?
58:12
But she's not wrong.
58:14
She's not wrong.
58:15
Yeah, we need more of that tough talk, though, right?
58:17
And that's what people need.
58:19
That's what people need.
58:20
You know, listen, I have that same talk with my daughter now.
58:22
I have a daughter who's 11 years old.
58:24
And every now and again, she complains about the wonderful life my wife and I have given her, you know, compared to how we both grew up.
58:31
You know, my daughter's got made pretty well.
58:35
And I tell her the same thing.
58:37
Well, guess what?
58:37
You're still going to get there. You're still going to do this. You're still going to do that.
58:41
And if we feel like you cannot do all that, we're just going to take stuff away.
58:45
Dance is going to be first. We're going to take away your dance. We're going to take away your
58:48
gymnastics. We're going to take away your iPad. We're going to take away your phone until we feel
58:52
like, okay, you're focused enough. And then my daughter magically gets her act together. But
58:57
you know, that's how we speak to her. That's how we do things. And I think that's what's missing.
59:03
You have all these parents who cobbled their kids and told them, okay, you know, I just want to do gentle parenting.
59:11
I just want to speak to you.
59:14
Okay, I'm listening to you with both my ears.
59:17
What do you want, little Timmy?
59:18
What can I do for you, little Timmy?
59:20
And these kids grow up and they throw their tantrums.
59:23
And now they're adults and they're still throwing tantrums.
59:26
I think that's what's missing.
59:28
You need some boots to ass moments.
59:30
is and you need to tell these kids, hey, listen, no one's going to feel sorry for you.
59:34
So get your shit together.
59:35
And that's what I think needs to start happening.
59:40
Yeah, agreed.
59:41
And to your point about education costs so much, I never understood that too at the universities.
59:46
Salaries to pay the instructors, I guess.
59:48
But most of everything at a university is government subsidized, plus grants and donations,
59:55
et cetera.
59:56
And yet they're still charging absorptive costs for someone just to get an education.
1:00:00
So that's what I, I forget which year it was.
1:00:02
I don't know if it was the fifties or whatever.
1:00:03
And of course, you know, you got to look at inflation or anything, but even then, even
1:00:06
then you can get, you can get a, uh, I think it was a, um, a bachelor's degree from Brown
1:00:11
for like lessons, less than eight grand.
1:00:14
Right.
1:00:15
And then here we are and we're looking at 20 to 30 grand a semester for some universities.
1:00:20
Yeah.
1:00:22
Um, I don't want to keep it too much longer, but I'm going to ask you this.
1:00:24
And if you have an opinion, I don't know if you do, but what do you think about what's
1:00:29
happening right now with the whole Charlie Kirk assassination debacle Erica Kirk and even Candace Owens Do you have any opinion on any of that It not something I touch on often but being someone who is on social media
1:00:44
yourself with such a large reach, I'm sure you come across this where people bring it up.
1:00:49
Do you have any opinions on it at all?
1:00:51
Yeah, I got tons of opinions on it.
1:00:53
I think Candace Owens is out of her mind.
1:00:55
I think she is batshit crazy.
1:00:59
Here's my thing.
1:00:59
Here's my thing.
1:01:00
I've asked every Candace Owens fan
1:01:03
to give me actual proof
1:01:07
of anything Candace is saying.
1:01:11
And all of them, their answer to me is,
1:01:15
well, you have to watch her show.
1:01:17
You have to watch every episode of her show
1:01:19
and then you will figure it out.
1:01:22
At this point, as someone who was an investigator,
1:01:27
I want proof.
1:01:28
I want actual evidence
1:01:32
I want to be able to look at something
1:01:33
I want her to say something
1:01:34
show me something and I go you know what
1:01:37
that actually makes sense
1:01:39
do they have an answer for this
1:01:41
but everything to her
1:01:43
has been innuendo
1:01:44
and suggestions and I'm just asking
1:01:47
questions and
1:01:49
well you know
1:01:51
here's what I think
1:01:52
the day she said Charlie appeared to her
1:01:55
in a dream everyone should have
1:01:57
turned their TV off or their
1:01:58
screen off or their phone off whatever and said yeah this bitch crazy everyone should have said
1:02:04
that but you've got people out there people who i used to respect who i used to have the utmost
1:02:09
esteemed respect for and they're falling for it and i i just i don't get it erica kirk hasn't done
1:02:19
a blessed thing to anyone and yet people hate her and and why do you hate her oh because she lied
1:02:28
about never dating anyone.
1:02:30
Okay, and?
1:02:32
And?
1:02:33
Is that the worst you have?
1:02:35
Oh, she lied about, she said she doesn't drink
1:02:37
and she drank here.
1:02:39
And? Is that the worst
1:02:41
you have on her?
1:02:43
That she told a white lie about how she's
1:02:45
never dated anyone or how she isn't ever?
1:02:47
Okay, that's stupid.
1:02:49
Okay, I'm sure she's sorry
1:02:51
for it. What else do you have?
1:02:54
Oh, well, my,
1:02:55
I just have, I just have,
1:02:57
I just have godly
1:02:59
a godly
1:03:00
sixth sense about these kind of
1:03:03
things. I have Christ-like intuition
1:03:05
about them. No, you don't.
1:03:07
No, you don't.
1:03:09
You're a wine soccer mom
1:03:10
who doesn't like Erica
1:03:12
because Candace told you not to like her
1:03:15
or some friend told you not to like her
1:03:17
or you can't keep a man
1:03:18
and Erica, if nothing had happened to Charlie
1:03:21
would have kept her man
1:03:23
and that's why you're angry.
1:03:24
That's why you don't like her.
1:03:27
So my thing is, I think Candace is out of her mind.
1:03:31
But I read a bunch of things on X that said that Candace is actually very smart.
1:03:38
Because she knows she's wrong.
1:03:41
She knows she has no proof.
1:03:43
She knows she has absolutely no idea what she's talking about.
1:03:46
But she knows she can get millions of people to tune in.
1:03:51
And that's exactly what she's doing.
1:03:52
And she's profiting off of it.
1:03:54
you know, P.T. Barnum said a sucker is born every minute.
1:03:58
Well, guess what?
1:03:59
If you are a Candace fan, you are a sucker that was born.
1:04:04
Well, this is what I say about Candace.
1:04:07
I think she's a real life living Nancy Drew novel.
1:04:10
And the thing with Candace is, you know, she always has proof,
1:04:14
but you got to wait till next week.
1:04:16
And here's the reality.
1:04:17
She's this close, George.
1:04:19
She's, they're this close.
1:04:22
They're this close.
1:04:24
Yeah, man.
1:04:25
So the thing is, though,
1:04:27
especially when we're talking about
1:04:28
Charlie Kirk's unfortunate assassination,
1:04:31
she apparently knew everything, right?
1:04:32
She has all the proof.
1:04:34
Here's my problem with these people,
1:04:36
podcasters, news...
1:04:37
I don't care who they are.
1:04:38
If you really know
1:04:39
and you really have all this evidence,
1:04:41
give it to the damn authority
1:04:43
so they can take care of business.
1:04:46
The reason they're doing what you said
1:04:47
is because they really don have anything They just trying to hook you in and make sure you keep coming back to get more likes clicks get more sponsors get more money But I mean stop lying to everybody
1:04:59
Just tell everybody, this is my opinion.
1:05:00
This is my theory.
1:05:01
Stop trying to present everything as fact because it's not fact.
1:05:04
If it was fact, the case had been closed already.
1:05:07
It would have been indisputable.
1:05:09
And my thing with Candace fans, I always just ask them, I say, well, how's the vagina case going?
1:05:13
What's going on with that?
1:05:15
She's getting sued into oblivion, man.
1:05:17
And that's what's going to happen to her.
1:05:18
She's going to continue to be sued until she can no longer stand to even,
1:05:22
I mean,
1:05:23
gosh,
1:05:23
she won't be able to buy a stick of gum as my dad would say.
1:05:26
She's going to get to that point.
1:05:27
It's going to be really bad for her if she doesn't.
1:05:29
I can't wait.
1:05:30
I can't wait.
1:05:31
I sincerely hope it happens.
1:05:33
Yeah,
1:05:34
I do too.
1:05:35
And not,
1:05:35
not in a way because I hate her,
1:05:38
but it's like,
1:05:39
I think a lot of these influencers,
1:05:41
these podcasters,
1:05:42
man,
1:05:42
they need a little reality check.
1:05:44
They really,
1:05:44
I used to adore her.
1:05:46
I used to,
1:05:46
I did too.
1:05:48
I did.
1:05:48
I respect her at one time.
1:05:49
I really did.
1:05:50
I was like,
1:05:51
wow,
1:05:51
okay.
1:05:51
I get what she's doing,
1:05:52
but now,
1:05:54
she's gone off the deep end,
1:05:55
man.
1:05:55
No,
1:05:55
really.
1:05:57
So,
1:05:57
let's do this.
1:05:59
Zeke,
1:05:59
you got anything else to add
1:06:01
that we didn't discuss
1:06:01
before we wrap this up?
1:06:03
Nah,
1:06:04
brother.
1:06:04
Thanks for having me on,
1:06:05
man.
1:06:06
I appreciate it.
1:06:07
Anything you want to tell anybody
1:06:08
about how they can find you
1:06:09
and your content?
1:06:10
Yep,
1:06:11
right there.
1:06:11
Zeke Arkham,
1:06:12
Z-E-E-K-A-R-K-H-A-M.
1:06:15
It's my handle on X.
1:06:18
And on Instagram.
1:06:20
And if you go on TikTok, I'm actually the real Zeke Arkham.
1:06:24
Because once again, someone stole my name, Zeke Arkham.
1:06:27
And they were posting on TikTok ahead of me.
1:06:30
So, yeah.
1:06:32
It was all my videos.
1:06:33
Whoever was doing it couldn't wait for me to drop content.
1:06:36
Because they had that content before anyone.
1:06:40
And they're obsessed with you.
1:06:42
Hey, listen.
1:06:43
To me, it lets me know I've made it.
1:06:45
When people want to duplicate my stuff.
1:06:49
What was funny about the Zeke Arkham on TikTok, though, was I would post something on X or post something on Instagram.
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And people would say, hey, listen, I'm sorry to hear about your dad.
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And I would go, huh?
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I haven't spoken to my dad in years.
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What are you talking about?
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And I started getting more messages like that.
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Hey, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad.
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I hope your dad pulls it.
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What are they talking about?
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So finally, I said to someone, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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And the person DMs me.
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A couple people DMed me.
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They said, hey, no, over here, you said your dad wasn't doing too well.
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I haven't spoken to my dad in over a decade.
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Like, I don't understand.
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So they took screenshots and sent it to me.
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And I went, oh.
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So that's when I started going on my account on X and IG and saying, hey, listen, these are my only two accounts.
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This is me.
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that's it any place else you see zeke arkham that's not me so i i think uh i had an imposter
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on facebook who was shut down uh i had a couple other guys who were shut down but they keep
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sprouting sprouting up and i guess i should be flattered because that means i've made it that
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means someone looked at me and went hey i got i gotta duplicate him so uh i think i think i think
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it's both. I think it's
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confirmation you made it
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and two, you're talking real shit
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and they're like, hmm,
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I better get on this,
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right? By the way, I didn't mention it, but man,
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I really like your hat. That's very
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cool. And I want to
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thank you for taking the time to be on the show, Zeke.
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I know you're a busy man. Well, maybe
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not as busy as you retire, but I know you're pretty
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heavy out there in social media, but I do appreciate
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your time. So, that being
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said, we're going to wrap it up, sir. And
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I will stay in touch with you.
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And I hope you have a great evening.
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Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Thank you so much.
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Bye.