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Bengals Edge Steelers + Scouting Vandy’s D: LSU Game Prep Begins · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 3: They just laughing in Storre is already getting full. You're
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  Speaker 3: right about it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching highlights of two geriatric quarterbacks absolutely put on
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  Speaker 5: a banger on a Thursday night.
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  Speaker 3: The Ben gab All turned into a hell of a game.
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  Speaker 4: A hell of a game, I mean, well, the best
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  Speaker 4: ones of the year, one of the best ones of
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  Speaker 4: the year. It's the game that we didn't need, we
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  Speaker 4: didn't know we needed as football fans, and my god,
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  Speaker 4: just football rocks man. Football is just incredible. And the
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  Speaker 4: Thursday night games just to continue to perform. And last
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  Speaker 4: week we had the the meathead Ball the Giants. We
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  Speaker 4: did beating the Eagles with Jackson Dart and Scataboo, Brian
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  Speaker 4: day Ball yelling at doctors all over the place, trying
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  Speaker 4: to get people out of the injury tent, trying to
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  Speaker 4: get people out of the injury tent. We've had the
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  Speaker 4: Packers Commanders, we had the Eagles Cowboys first game of
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  Speaker 4: the season. We've had some We've had some bangers on
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  Speaker 4: Thursday night, but none better than last night. Combined eighty
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  Speaker 4: two years of quarterback life, who knows how much experience,
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  Speaker 4: eighteen and almost.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I think combined forty years of experience
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  Speaker 4: VET experience there, so it's uh, yeah, a couple of
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  Speaker 4: sewer rows. So Joe Flaka, how your knees feel right now?
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  Speaker 4: He was our draft class. How your knees fell?
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  Speaker 3: Poor?
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  Speaker 4: Poor poor poor to quite poor quite horrible. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 4: it's really impressive. A lot of highlights from the game
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  Speaker 4: last night, both quarterbacks making plays when they had to.
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  Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's call sheet I think throughout the game yesterday
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  Speaker 4: was inside run, screen pass, Jamar. Those are the three
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  Speaker 4: plays he ran. Yeah, inside run, screen pass and Jamar
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  Speaker 4: and Joe Flacco is I think he kind of got
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  Speaker 4: the memo when he got there. He's like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 4: if you're like in trouble, like if we got a
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  Speaker 4: passing play, if he's just one on one or two
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  Speaker 4: on one, sometimes just like you don't have to make
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  Speaker 4: a perfect throw, just throw it at the defender.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he got you throw it in his catch
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  Speaker 5: radius and he's gonna go probably make a play. Like
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  Speaker 5: if you're wondering, and I know that Jamar Chase is
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  Speaker 5: the best receiver in the league, but if.
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  Speaker 3: You're wondering, like all week.
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  Speaker 5: What we were talking about with your receiver one having
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  Speaker 5: to go help out your quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about. Yeah, put it in and
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  Speaker 4: you don't have to be Jamar Chase. There's there's one
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  Speaker 4: of those, right, and but help your quarterback out. Be
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  Speaker 4: friendly to your quarterback, make a play, make a make
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  Speaker 4: it to where it doesn't The ball doesn't have to
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  Speaker 4: catch you every time. Sometimes you got to go catch
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  Speaker 4: the ball. And that's what we used to say. Like
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  Speaker 4: when you saw a pass down the sideline yesterday, or
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  Speaker 4: like Aaron Rodgers DK metcalf on a go route, that
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  Speaker 4: ball caught him. Like that ball was like you couldn't
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  Speaker 4: have ran up there and handed it to him any better.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what I had. A lot of NFL quarterbacks
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  Speaker 4: make those throws all the time. But sometimes it's a
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  Speaker 4: little behind you, sometimes it's a little out in front
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  Speaker 4: of you. Sometimes you got to catch the back third
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  Speaker 4: of the ball. Tampa Bay. Yeah, it just go make
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  Speaker 4: a play. And it's fun when you see a primetime
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  Speaker 4: game like that where everyone's excited to watch it. You
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  Speaker 4: know it's the one game that's on and players, the
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  Speaker 4: best players in the world, go out and make the
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  Speaker 4: best plays in the world, and it's fun to watch
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  Speaker 4: as fans and then also like for the football nerds
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  Speaker 4: like myself. The end of the game, t Higgins catches
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  Speaker 4: a ball, a deep ball down the sideline in a
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  Speaker 4: four minute situation. Under two minutes in the game. He
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  Speaker 4: catches the ball down the sideline, has a path to score,
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  Speaker 4: and operates the smart one of the smartest plays in football,
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  Speaker 4: a no moss situation. I don't know what y'all caught it.
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  Speaker 4: We called it no moss, we called it no more,
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  Speaker 4: no more points, no more or anything. Yeah, slides down
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  Speaker 4: instead of going ahead because they were down by points.
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  Speaker 4: So if you go ahead, you got to go for two.
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  Speaker 4: You might end up being up by five points or
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  Speaker 4: you might be up by seven. Like it doesn't you
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  Speaker 4: don't really know what's going to happen. But you give
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  Speaker 4: time to the other team. You slide down, give yourself
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  Speaker 4: a chance to center it, knee it, kick a field
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  Speaker 4: goal in no time left. So yeah, they did it.
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  Speaker 4: And then it's a little bit of risk, but it's
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  Speaker 4: a small.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, but you look, I mean, if if a
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  Speaker 5: kicker misses that, you'll take that chance.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's an extra point, you'd rather take the chance.
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather take the chance of my kicker making a
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  Speaker 4: really short field goal. So it's a small percentage he's
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  Speaker 4: going to miss it. It's a higher percentage that Aaron
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  Speaker 4: Rodgers and the Steelers drive down to score touchdown to
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  Speaker 4: win it.
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  Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers on the last play of the game, had
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  Speaker 5: the longest air throw since twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: And are you serious? Yeah, good stat pool. I knew
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  Speaker 3: it was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Like I watched it and I saw him throw it, and.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, holy hell, Yeah since twenty seventeen is
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  Speaker 5: the farthest ball it's traveled in the air.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one thing that I do it like he
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  Speaker 4: do it seventy years. Like there's quarterbacks, you know, there's quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: I think like when I was a senior in high
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  Speaker 4: school or freshman, I think I chunked one that might
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  Speaker 4: have gone seventy yards or like at least someone told
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  Speaker 4: me it did right, Like I didn't see it, but.
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  Speaker 3: Little helium in that ball, huh Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But to be able to do it in a game
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  Speaker 4: like with pads, pads and a helmet, shoulder pads on
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  Speaker 4: that with bad you know, intention rushers coming towards you
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  Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, and I think he's I got to
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  Speaker 4: look this up. I should have. I should have done
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  Speaker 4: this before the show, but I didn't think about it
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  Speaker 4: until right this second. I think he's the most successful
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  Speaker 4: hell Mary quarterback in the history of the NFL. I
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  Speaker 4: said that yesterday. Yeah, And I don't know what that
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  Speaker 4: stat is, but I know there's a lot of hell
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  Speaker 4: Mary highlights for that guy. And that's the reason because
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  Speaker 4: he throws it high and gives us, you know, he's
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  Speaker 4: and gives us guys an opportunity, and he's played in
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  Speaker 4: a lot of games, so he's he's Uh, we almost
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  Speaker 4: saw it. I was hoping we'd see it. I was
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  Speaker 4: cheering for my guy, you know, if he's gonna get
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  Speaker 4: out dueled. You know what I was like, you know
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  Speaker 4: what Flacco? I was like, Man, I was like, screw it, dude,
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  Speaker 4: put Flacco in the Hall of Fame too, whatever, go ahead, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: amazing not hurting himself.
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  Speaker 3: So it's funny.
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  Speaker 5: We were all watching the game last night and it
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  Speaker 5: was Me, Katie and Memphis, and Memphis is kind of like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, he always asks like, hey, who do we
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  Speaker 5: go for?
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  Speaker 3: Who do we go for?
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  Speaker 5: In this game and we were trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 5: We were like, do we go for the Steelers because
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  Speaker 5: coach Matt and Aaron her friends? Or do we go
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  Speaker 5: for Jamar Chase? Where do we Where do we go here?
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  Speaker 5: It's funny he was like asking back and forth. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if there's any wrong answer on that. That's
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  Speaker 5: what That's kind of what Katie said, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think either way.
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  Speaker 4: I was so happy just watching how the game unfolded.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I was like cheering for for the Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: But Flack is awesome man to do what he's He
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  Speaker 4: has done over such an extended period of time, just
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  Speaker 4: been consistent and good, and you can you could tell
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  Speaker 4: the hurt and the anger and Tomlin's voice last week when.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah he got traded when the Browns.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that. You just don't you don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: You don't trade within the division for a guy that
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  Speaker 4: you thought so much of that he was your opening
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  Speaker 4: day starter. Yeah, and you trade him to somebody in
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  Speaker 4: the division. And you can see the paint because Tomlin
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  Speaker 4: has the utmost respect, Like, is there any coach out
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  Speaker 4: there that respects quarterbacks that have he's played against more
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  Speaker 4: than Mike Tomlin. I remember last year when people were
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  Speaker 4: comparing Jane Daniels as a rookie to Lamar Jackson and
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  Speaker 4: he tom was like, hold up, now, yeah, you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about mister Jackson. Like, let's let's be very careful, let's
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  Speaker 4: tread lightly when we make comparisons. Of course that comparison
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  Speaker 4: is Jadon's that dude. Yeah, but like he was just saying, hey,
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  Speaker 4: let's pump the brakes when we start comparing guys to
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  Speaker 4: the guys that I respect, right, And I think he
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  Speaker 4: has the utmost respect for Flaco because he's played them
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  Speaker 4: and he knew.
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  Speaker 5: And they yeah, they gave last night. He knew what
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  Speaker 5: he knew that that was J and T. Yeah, makes
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  Speaker 5: it a dangerous group if you haven't had some of
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  Speaker 5: the you know, the third and fourth receivers make a
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  Speaker 5: play like that was that was like that game?
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  Speaker 4: Was that third and fourth receivers They can make plays. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: that that you're allowed to.
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  Speaker 5: Great example of guys going out and wanting the football,
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  Speaker 5: not being denied and just being aggressive towards.
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  Speaker 4: The ball blows my mind. Man, they're allowed to.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, did you see the Joe Flako's face whatever,
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  Speaker 5: Jamar like actually dropped one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did, was wide open. Okay, So I don't
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  Speaker 4: remember the exact number. It was either one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: sixty one or one hundred and eighty one million is
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  Speaker 4: the payroll for the Steelers defense this year. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 4: a big number. If you're wondering at home, it's a
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  Speaker 4: big number. So their defense, they bring in Jayalen Ramsey,
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  Speaker 4: they bring in Jayleen. Rams was getting cooked. He was
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  Speaker 4: worked last night. A couple of pass interferences you could
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  Speaker 4: you could sometimes you call him, sometimes you don't. But
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  Speaker 4: they got called and he got cooked. He got cooked
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  Speaker 4: on the t Higgins won late in the game that
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  Speaker 4: he did the no Mo situation on touchdown to Jamar. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he was getting worked a little bit, but a big
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  Speaker 4: salary to get to go in there and get throttled
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  Speaker 4: and looked like Swiss cheese. The forty one year old
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  Speaker 4: Joe Flacca that just learned the snap counts seven days ago.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's unimpressive or impressive Bill
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  Speaker 4: Placo on that. But there was a I think there
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  Speaker 4: was a play the Steelers who just scored the go
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  Speaker 4: ahead touchdown an incredible like third down play and rolls
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  Speaker 4: out to his left, scrambles out. They just got a
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  Speaker 4: holding call. I think goes second to twenty. Take that,
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  Speaker 4: then go second second and twenty second and twenty, rolls out,
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  Speaker 4: throws a dot over down the field, touchdown to friar Mouth.
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  Speaker 4: Second touch on the day for friar Mouth, and he
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  Speaker 4: he was the race. But the Bengals get the ball
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  Speaker 4: back like the first play, jamorro ros As shall across
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  Speaker 4: and catches it and there's no one within fifteen yards
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  Speaker 4: of him, right, Like, what do we do? What are
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  Speaker 4: we doing?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I might want to make sure that you cover
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  Speaker 5: him like you can blop some other guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but let's make sure we get him.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, I mean a flack go with the wheels as
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  Speaker 5: well when he pulled it.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, So did you you heard you hear the g
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  Speaker 4: year the after the post game stuff where he took
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  Speaker 4: the stand they had asked him. I think Fitzpatrick could
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  Speaker 4: ask him about that. He's like, so, is that like
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  Speaker 4: a called situation? He's like no, He's like, I got
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  Speaker 4: the play call and it was like one of the
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  Speaker 4: few calls, like I had to read that one off
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  Speaker 4: the rist, Like I didn't I didn't have that one memorized.
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  Speaker 4: I had to read that play off the wrist and
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  Speaker 4: I I can't remember who the receiver was. I think
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  Speaker 4: he said T was supposed to do a counter motion
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  Speaker 4: from the outside countermotion, come and seal the end. He's
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  Speaker 4: going to hand the zone off. He's like, but the
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  Speaker 4: play call is running down, and I just told him.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, chill, just chill out there, don't come
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  Speaker 4: in motion because I had to get the I had
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  Speaker 4: to get the stap off. So the wide receiver is
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  Speaker 4: supposed to come down and block the end right, So
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  Speaker 4: there's no one blocking the end at this point. So
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  Speaker 4: he hands he's going to hand the ball off, and
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  Speaker 4: he just sees the guy crashing down and he was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: screw it, let's just do it. Yeah, and he pulls
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  Speaker 4: it and just totally ad lived it and he's like yeah, man,
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  Speaker 4: He's like it felt really fun. Yeah. I hadn't done
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  Speaker 4: that since like probably my second or third year in
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  Speaker 4: the league.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, running zone reads with Joe Fla.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so second or third year in the league if
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  Speaker 4: you're count, that's an over a decade and a half ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was twenty ten.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so he Yeah, he just pulled and it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of an ad lib crazy situation.
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  Speaker 5: But I think he got about fifteen on it. Well done,
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  Speaker 5: well done, Well done, Joe too much. Great game, great game,
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  Speaker 5: very exciting.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta love the NFL. I love it.
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  Speaker 5: Even between two forty one year old quarterbacks, you can
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  Speaker 5: get a product.
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  Speaker 4: Like we have a quarterback controversy and sincy.
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  Speaker 5: People are asking just first time I've actually seen Burrow
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  Speaker 5: on the sideline and the look when you have a
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  Speaker 5: foot toe injury, you don't want your guys standing on
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  Speaker 5: the sideline for four hours. So I get that, but
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  Speaker 5: it's the first time I had chanced to actually see
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  Speaker 5: him there with the team, and it was so weird
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  Speaker 5: seeing Joe like with like the headset on talking to
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  Speaker 5: Joe Flacco.
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  Speaker 3: I know, right, his crew is pretty wild.
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  Speaker 4: Joe. You see with the DoD the long hair, the
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  Speaker 4: wispy bangs. Yeah, kind of looked like like a punk
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  Speaker 4: rocker a little bit. I saw a good post yesterday
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  Speaker 4: on the old Twitter machine, said my chemical Joe Mance.
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  Speaker 3: I think, hey, everybody goes to their emo face.
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  Speaker 4: Joe looked a little little, a little sad. Yesterday was
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  Speaker 4: playing which not playing a game is like the worst
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  Speaker 4: villain of the world.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 5: It is all right, we're gonna take our first break,
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  Speaker 5: but we've got so much more coming your way. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: we'll play all our favorite games that we do here
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  Speaker 5: on Friday. We'll have a pontoon parlay, a party bars parlay,
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  Speaker 5: we'll play what's the ticket? All that's still coming your way.
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  Speaker 5: Stay locked in here to otb.
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  Speaker 2: Off the bench, all right.
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  Speaker 5: It is always a great time to go for dose.
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  Speaker 5: So if you're getting your tailgate ready, Hey, maybe you're
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  Speaker 5: traveling right now to Nashville to go watch the Tigers
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  Speaker 5: play Vanderbilt there on the road, and you gotta fill
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  Speaker 5: up the ice chest, go ahead and fill it up
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  Speaker 5: with some ice cold dose sequis, or hopefully you just
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: went ahead and did it before you went. Or if
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: you're hosting a watch party right and you're not going
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: to the game, but you're gonna have people over, well
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: be the hit of the party because you brought the
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: dose sekies.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: It's always a great time to go for dose.
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  Speaker 4: As right. Are you a can guy or a bottle guy?
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, I like a can?
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  Speaker 4: Actually, come on, I'm a big bottle guy. When it
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  Speaker 4: right here as well. But it gets you. Get ready
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  Speaker 4: for the weekend, Get ready for tailgating, Get ready for
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  Speaker 4: a trip. If maybe you're going for a little fall
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  Speaker 4: break whatever. Get that cooler ready, get that fridge ready,
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  Speaker 3: I start walking, lady, start walking.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: We met.
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  Speaker 4: That of George bind We gain on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: To long.
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  Speaker 2: Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
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  Speaker 3: Seven years tomorrow since we set our back under that
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: old pine tree.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in it is otb here on
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: a football Friday. LSU traveling later today to Nashville to
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: take on Vanderbilt, where they are a two and a
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: half point favorite.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Are sorry, yeah, Bady Bills two and a half point favorite.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: LSU two and a half point dog.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Er.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: A lot of people, a lot of people in the
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Vandy betting train.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: He because of mood from a point or a point
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: and a.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Half, Dave Portnoy of Varstool put over two hundred thousand
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: dollars on Vanderbilt to cover this game.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: He must not like money, he must hate it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: So there's a lot of people that favor this matchup
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: for Vandy what they do, well, what LSU struggle with
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: and I Matt, I mean honest with you, Like on
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: off campus when people start talking about this game, they're like, yeah,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I think I think Vanderbilt covers pretty easy. I'm like, wait, what,
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Like what matchup are we talking about here? You know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: it's the offensive struggles for LSU. It's not being able
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: to run the football for l s U. Now with
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Weeks potentially being out, it's something people are certainly paying
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: attention to because if you face a Digo Pavia, who
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: would you want chasing that guy round with Weeks?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Right, So he's going to be a game.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: A couple of guys going against each other's growling the
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: whole time at each other. Quarterback's throwing up puke and rally.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I know, I know. And speaking of with well, we
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: could talk about his injury all we want to. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: but the big news coming out of the wit Week's
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: story is he shaved his head. He did, so, there's
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: a story of.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: The Bible, Samson and Delilah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, his power came from his hair bud. Yeah, A
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: little bit nervous about this one. So I think you
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: see some live line movement based on that's not.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: That you know, not that crazy.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, So what it is his ankle? It is a
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: bone bruise on his ankle, Is that what I read? So?
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I think what I read was so I've seen the
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Bowl game.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: He had a major injury, yeah, and required surgery, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I saw that it was soreness related to that injury.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Now I know there was some reporters that saw with
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: in a walking boot. I believe it was yesterday and
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: that was reported. I do want to and look, this
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: isn't me speaking on WIT's injury because I truly don't know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: I won't see what until later on a couple of
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: hours on the plane. But I will say this, this
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: medical group is very cautious with any ankle injury, with
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: any shin, with any you'll see somebody in a boot
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: as a precautionary measure, like that's kind of what they do.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I've seen guys with bradla Moore when he had his
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: sprained ankle, he went directly in to a boot. When
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: west Weeks had his his calf.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Boom, because there's no reason not to get in a
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: boot because you can walk with it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: You can you're like, I'll tell you this.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I've seen guys that have had boots on after a
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: road game and played in the in the game the
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: next week and practice the next week. It is something
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: that they do. Like you said, why wouldn't you just
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: throw it on? Protect yourself?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Rest it?
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: So the boot portion of this, I wouldn't look too
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: much into that because again, you know this medical team,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: that's what they do. They've always done it, and that's
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: just kind of part of the everyday injury precaution type stuff.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Not to say he's gonna play, because I really truly
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: But yep, I mean all I get my news from
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I get my news from Twitter, So you know, I
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: just saw that potential bone bridge potential like boot, you'd
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: never know. I agree with you, though, Like the boot
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: isn't like an end all be Now, if you see
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: someone crutching around, that's a different thing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, crutches a red flag.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I had like uh foot thing in high school and
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I wore boot everywhere just because I didn't want I
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: didn't want people to good one, good one. All right, Okay,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: this is a different type of boot though. Okay, all right,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: but I wore just because I didn't want people to
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: step on it or like I didn't want to like
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: accidentally hit it against the table or a chair. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I just wore boot and you can walk around. Your
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: mobility is fine. So someone in the chat here say,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I know that Landry Kiffen is Delilah, but I can't
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: prove it yet.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Oh oh oh mm, hmm hmm.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I feel about that. I mean, I've never seen him
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: puke in the game or you know, we're walking boot
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: until Landry. People are talking.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Don't love that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Look at if Wit doesn't play in this game. I
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: do when we talked about it yesterday. I do think
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Yellow Shoe's very deep at linebacker. But I'm not going
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: to be foolish enough to say that an All American
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: linebacker being out of the game is not something that
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: is going to, you know, help you in any way
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: if he's out. If an All American linebackers out of
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: the game, it's something that you have to make up for.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: It's not something you handwave.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: There's certainly one in this game where you're playing against
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: a Diego Pavia that likes to improvise, likes to you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: when nothing's there, try to create a play and you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: he'll wave the football around, he'll pull a spin move out,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you look down the field
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: and he's got seventeen yards right. Well, in a game
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: like this, that's where you want a wit week. So again,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: game time decision. He is, you know, a fellow meathead.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: So I would assume he's going to give you everything.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: He's got to be able to be out there on
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: the field, yeah, for sure.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: But and look from the silver lining for LSU fans
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and LSU defense is that they already have the experience.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: They played in the Florida game. Was got kicked out
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: of the game three three plays in, so they have
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: they they've been able to go and they've been able
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: to play at a high level without him already this season,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: So they know they can do it. They know they
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: can create chaos and Diego Pavea. He's a he is
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: the heart of that team. He's the heart of that offense.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: He is the engine that makes it go. But let's
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: not get it twisted that he's like this explosive, like
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: four to three guy, that he's a guy that does everything,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: does a little bit of everything. He can throw it,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: he can run it. He's tough, he's gritty. He's not
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: gonna slide. He's gonna dive at your knees, trying to
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: take your knees out. As a ball carrier, he's going
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: to try to push the pile. If his ball carrier
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: is getting held up and defenders are trying to come
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: in and hit, he's gonna come in from twenty yards
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: and try to clean someone out like while there he does.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: He plays like an offensive lineman. He plays quarterback like
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: a linebacker. But yeah, the team speed for LSU is
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: going to nullify, like the potential for you know, unless
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: there's missed assignments, unless there's some sort of trick and
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: dick and play that gets him out in the open.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: He's not going to like just outrun people to the
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: sideline or outrun people for a long game. He's it's
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I said it two days ago. It's death by a
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: thousand cuts with Diego Pavia. So of course you want
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: your all American linebacker out there. But I think there's
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: people that can make up within that LSU roster to
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: keep us competitive, to keep our defensive elite. And we
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: did it again. I go back to the Florida game.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: He was hurt or not. He wouldn't hurt. He got
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: kicked out of the game for a crap call. Feelings
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: were hurt, the referees ears were hurt because he was
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: screaming so much on the sideline, but he was out
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: of the game. They found a way to stay elite
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: on defense. They had five interceptions on DJ Lagway. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: would expect this defense, whether it's wit wit Weeks is
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: out there or not, I would expect this defense to
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: give Vanderbilt all that they want.
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  Speaker 5: into some of the matchup. You know, we've talked a
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  Speaker 5: lot about Diego Papa. He's the star for Vanderbilt. We
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: all know that Elis Stowers is a star tied end
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: for them, but the Vandy defense is one that's probably
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: under value, you'd doesn't get talked about enough, and it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: really one of the reasons why they've been able to
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: change who they are. So we'll break down some of
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  Speaker 5: the Vandy defense for LSU's offense and what does the
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• 28:00
  Speaker 5: TV here live from Rouses on this Football Friday talking
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: a little LSU and Vanderbilt. Now, one of the things
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: that we haven't gotten into too much, Matthew, is the
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: Vanderbilt defense against the LSU offense. Because we've talked about,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: you know, the stars for Vanderbilt. Obviously for LSU, the
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: defense has been a star as well. Not the star position,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: don't worry, don't get upset.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: That's not a position. But it's a mindset, you know that.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Sure, So let's go look at some of the Vanderbilt
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: defense against this LSU offense. Now, real quick, before we
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: get to Vanderbilt LSU's offense a week ago, did you
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: think that you saw the improvements?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I know, you had to turnovers on the goal line.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: You had the interception, you were on the one yard
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: line two different times and didn't score. That's troublesome, we
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: know that part. But some of the other things. Did
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: you see some growth after the bye week within the
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: LSU offense to make you believe that it can go
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: up from where it was?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this earlier this week, like we
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: you had a week to improve, you had a week
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: to to and maybe potentially add some wrinkles in there
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: and of course, like the big thing that everybody was
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: worried about, that we were worried about, is the running
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: game for the LSU Tigers that was very for two
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: years now been very vanilla, very bland. We have struggled
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: in short yarded situations. The versatility is just not there,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the creativity is not there. Like we said, we hadn't
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: run a power all season. Well, this past week you
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: saw them trying to do things. They pulled the guard
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: five times in the game. Yeah, holy moly, five times.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: If you would have told me they were going to
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: pull the guard five times earlier in the season, I
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: would have said you were a liar, because it's it
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: might as well be five hundred times because it's not happening. Sure,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think any of them were traditional powers. I
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: think we're giving them the benefit of the doubt on
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: a quarterback power saying it's a power, not a counter
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: But it was a counterplay. But so what we're moving
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: the lot, we're moving pulling guards, we're pulling tight end.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: We're being able to wash down one side of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: running game, and then we get under center. I think
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: the first play the game was under center. The running
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: game was under the center. So they're trying to do things.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: They put a fullback in a short yard of situation
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: and the hole was there. Okay, never missed the read,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: but you know what, you really haven't done it. Like
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: reading behind a full back is way different than just
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: like a normal gun rate. Your keys are different, you're reading,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: you're reading different things. You got to you gotta not
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: only read the line, but you got to follow your
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: fullback and read his cues. So I hope that they
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: don't just say, well, you know, we tried to do it.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: We tried to go you know, twelve personnel or twenty
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: one personnel or twenty two personnel. We tried to run
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: it with a fullback and some tight ends and it
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: just didn't work.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: So let's let's scrap that and go back.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: To our gun inside run inside zones with some RPOs
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: behind it. I hope they don't do that, because it's coming.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: It was there, it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Was there, and on the broadcast I kept saying, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: was like, it's close, it's close, Keep running it, keep
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: running it, don't get away from it. And then you
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: had Juwan Johnson, he had a big run. Caden Durham
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: started to hit like eleven twelve yard runs because in
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: the running game, if it's not hitting in the first
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: seven runs, you can't get away from it because it
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: is a part of the game. It adds to the
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: pace of the game, and you're leaning on the defense
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: every time you do it. It might not hit for thirty,
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: but if it's hitting for three and you're doing it
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: the right way, that three is going to turn into thirteen.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: That thirteen is going to turn into twenty eight. The
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: twenty eight is going to turn into eight fifty something yarder. Right,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: you had your longest run of the year, and so
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: it was good to see them continue to lean on
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: it a little bit because it was so close in
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: that game.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Now, this Vanderbilt run defense is good.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: They only give up one hundred and two point five
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: yards per game, that's fifth best in the SEC. Now,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: through the air, they give up two hundred and twenty
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: two point seven that's twelve in the SEC. So they
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: give up more through the air than they do on
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: the ground. But that does not mean that you don't
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: try to establish a running game. No, Like you still
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: you can't allow like those stats to dictate who you are.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Like you got to be yourself and then look if
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: the plays show up in the passing game because you're
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: running the football, that's what complimentary offense is supposed to be.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I was actually kind of surprised during my
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: film review from my film my film study this this
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: this week. I was kind of surprised when you told
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: when I was texting the group chat about you know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: different different things, different ways, Vanderbilt's getting beat right now,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: and you're like, well, there, it's kind of surprising because
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: they're one of the best running defenses in the SEC.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: And I was like, it's kind of shocking to me
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: because against Alabama, Alabama kicked their tails from left to
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: right in the running game. I mean they were pushing
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and they had committed to it. Now,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think they ended up with like a ton
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: of yards. I think it was like one hundred and
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: they're I think they're running back out over. I think
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: the Alabama's running back had over one hundred yards rushing
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: in that game. But their strength to schedule, it's kind
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: of played a little part of that. Of course, they
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: had a game against South Carolina that they did well
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: that they wanted. At South Carolina didn't have a good
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: running game either, so I think they've benefited from that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: You know, they played their strength to schedule hasn't probably
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: not the best running teams, and there's probably a talent deficit.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: So but they played Alabama, who of course has a
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: better roster for like from a talent perspective, and they
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: ran the ball on them pretty pretty well. So I
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: would expect LSU to have the opportunities to be successful
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: on the ground. Yeah, now we saw some improvement last
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: week with LSU's running a game. Can they continue that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: It's a much better run defense that they're facing this week.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: But I could tell you I don't care what the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: stats show. Their strength to schedule is going to put
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: them at the top of the list in the SEC,
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: just because they really haven't played much, especially in the
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: running game they've played. They played two big opponents. They
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: played South Carolina, they played Alabama. Alabama kick their tails
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: in the running game. South Carolina stinks it running, So
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I think the I think the stats are a little
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: bit skewed there. But from a secondary perspective, they do
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: everything we've talked about how this team is very well coached,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: very versatile on offense, and defense. But let's stick on
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball. They're gonna show you there.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna Their stats are probably very
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: balanced in the percentages from zone to man to They're
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: gonna run cover one, They're gonna run cover two, three, four,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: they're gonna renc cover six, they're gonna run cover eight.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: They'll throw some zero pressures at you and the just
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: they're very sound.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: What do you consider cover eight? So quarter quarter.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Halves is six eight? Quarters are halves quarter quarter? Okay,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: so it'd be like it'd be like havel but you
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: know some people call a quarter quarter halfs eight. Yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: so you always count from strong, So quarter quarter halves
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: would be you got on the strong side of the field,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: which is usually the wide side of the field. You
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: got corner has one quarter, a safety's got a quarter
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: of the field, and then the backside so the weak
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: side safety has the other half of the field. So
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: a quarter quarter half. Now if it's flip if to
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: the wide side of the field, you got the cover two.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: The class it's a much more rare coverage might see
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: it a little bit more like in the red zone.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: But you go half, so two to the field and
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: then quarters of the backside. Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: I just make sure that we're on the same page
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: because some people call cover eight quarter quarter half because
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: they because it's four and two and they just times it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: I just added some coaches do it differently.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I think Jimbo was.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: He's to call it quarters. Jimbo called the quarter seven.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Especially the reds, they called it red seven. It was
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: just quarter, just quarters in the red zone. Yeah. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: then if it's a Nickel personnel, everything's got a double digit,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: so it's twenty two, thirty.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Three, forty four.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: I loved I loved my guy Jimbo, and he taught
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: me so much and got me ready for the NFL.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: But he had some food bars and he would always say,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: now this is gonna be a food bar.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like, coach, you said that seven times in this meeting.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Are we'll just make it normal bars.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: It's like, hey, uh, why are we doing this while
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: we calling this what we're calling this right now?
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: I know, but look so on the second they're gonna
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: be vend but it's gonna be very balanced. They're gonna
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: show you all sorts of different types of coverages. So
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have chances at big plays, then you're gonna
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: have chances with times where you're just gonna have to
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: take the check down, take what's given to you. But
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: when they do play zone, especially when they play cover two,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: their safeties get so deep. Every time they're safe, their
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: safeties are coached and preached. They're getting told, do not
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: get beat, beat deep. But that creates opportunity. And I
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: saw Ty Simpson for Alabama do it. I saw the
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: door sellers for South Carolina. Do it. Take advantage of
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: whole shots down the sideline, take advantage of underneath like
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: DIGG I'm not even talking about underneath, like short routes,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: like dig routes, in routes, PRUURL routes deep. Their safeties
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: get so deep, there's lots of opportunity. There are a
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: lot of windows for the LSU Tigers for the LSU
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: receiver to get.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Open, all right, without cheating here, So I've got their
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: coverage stats right in front of me without cheating. I
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: know you haven't watched every game. You've watched South Carolina
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: and Alabama. Which coverage do you think is Vanderbilt's lead coverage?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I would say most teams lead coverage is going to
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: be some sort of.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Three cover three thirty five percent and go well done.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: How much zero they run, I'm gonna say about ten percent,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: thirteen thirteen.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Percent, which is a big number for zero, A big
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: number for zero.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Now usually see around like six or seven percent.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And a lot of that is you got to
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: look at schedules as well.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: True, they knew they could get away with it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: You play high run teams like Alabama when they were
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: run they seemed like they were running every play. Yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: and it looked like they were averaging seven eight nine
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: yards or run for in the first half. So they
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: probably played a little zero there. You know, when you
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: play a team like Charleston Southern, you get some.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: I told you the Buccaneers dangerous. It's good for him,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Hit the portal pretty hard, pretty hard, pretty old buds.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: They got thousands of nil dollars to spend, yes, not tens,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: just thousands. Yes.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: So uh, it's a good point bringing up who they've
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: played and where those teams are rushing. That probably has
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: added to the stats because even though we are into
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: the SEC schedule, you know, South Carolina was dead last
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: in rushing before they played LSU.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Now LSU's last in South Carolina's.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Fished to win that game at South Carolina, which is impressive,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: but yeah, Carolina, we're not real high on them.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: That's the game Leonora Sellers went out though with.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: The cancushion, went out either late in the first or
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• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, South Carolina's not yelling. South Carolina is
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: not a not a good football team. But there's certainly
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  Speaker 3: Like he is all of their offense. He's the offense
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  Speaker 5: Yep, it's like did you not feel like that?
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Oh my god? Yeah, Like without Lenora Sellers, they are
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• 39:07
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  Speaker 4: a little bit better, right, yes, but you don't do
• 39:12
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  Speaker 5: When we come back, we and take a look around
• 40:01
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• 40:03
  Speaker 5: There's five ranked matchups in college football this weekend. Three
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: of those are in the Southeastern Conference. It is going
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  Speaker 5: to be a tier system week moving up? Are you
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  Speaker 5: Miss traveling Athens to take on the jou Jab Bulldogs.
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  Speaker 3: How you feeling about that one?
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: I feel like George is gonna win that one, So
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: I feel I feel like ole Miss is a uh.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I hate to use this term because nobody knows what
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: their mascot is, but paper tiger. They are a paper tiger.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think they are as good as their ranking.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I didn't think they were very that good. When I'm
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: not gonna say very good. I didn't think they were
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: that good when LSU went there to take them take
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: them month.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: I thought they were a nine and three football team.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: And you still feel that way, Yeah, yeah, nine and three? Yeah, okay,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I could see that. Uh. They just I underestimated how
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: much the tempo of their offense would neutralize the creativity
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: of the defense. And it probably shouldn't have been a surprise.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I guess when I'm watching film of a team, it's
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: hard to tell on the game film like the.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: All twenty two, like the tempo, Yeah, because you don't have.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: The entertwe Yeah, probably should have watched a little TV
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: copy on that. Yeah, because you don't get the in
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: between of the plays. So I underestimated that portion. Now,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: of course the Yels defense played still like the end
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: of the game. They played great for the amount of
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: plays that they had to, but they neutralized them in
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: the way that they couldn't get off the field, like
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the third third down efficiency was very high for Ole Miss.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I did not think that Old Missus secondary was very good,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: and I just didn't think their defense tot we just
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: didn't play well enough on offense, and creativity wasn't there.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: NUSS didn't play well enough. I mean, you can beat
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: on the road in an SEC game, but I just
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: don't think they are as complete of a team as
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: what they're ranking is telling us that they could be.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: So I think they go and I think they go
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: down to Georgia, and I don't know if it's going
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: to be particularly close enough.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Now, I do think Georgia has some deficiencies as well.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Sure they're not the Georgia where it's just like rolled
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: the helmet out there. They're going to run the football
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: and play incredible elite defense and get some play from
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: their quarterback. I still think yeah, and they still need
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: to learn how to clap.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: They haven't figured the clip figured out the clap portion
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: of It's actually pretty tough if you think about it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: So they got to show me how to do it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: So everybody wanted to make fun of coach Miles. He
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: knew what he was doing. He knew to clap, he
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: knew he knew how to clap, He knew how to
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: It does not know how to clap. He is pretty
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: remedial too. You gotta start wondering. They still got it.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: So tebow dused to call him Kirby dumb dumb, So
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: What did so? What did Lane Kiffin say earlier this
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: week about Lane? It was a great clip, uh talking
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: about I don't think it doesn't look like Kirby's been
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: excuse Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Some a reporter asked him, like, who burns more calories
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: on the side line?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: You were, Kurby because you're always moving energy. Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you're always moving always. He's like, I
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: don't know, if you look at Kirby didn't look at
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: he's burned many calories.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I get on him by his weight all the time.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: I was like, geez, I know you are boys, but man,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: this guy's got a family.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: So good, so good. And it is funny how all those
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: coaches that went through the the Saban tree of coaching
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: are all friends.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Oh yeah, even when they fight,
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: like Jimbo and Nick did a couple of years ago.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: But they're good. They're back now, we're back. They're back.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: So we got Tennessee and Alabama, which we'll get to
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: later on in the show.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Georgia, ol miss you like Georgia. I like Georgia to
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: cover just to win.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: What's the one?
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Uh, we'll look at that coming up.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: It's more in a touchdown once going twice, Power too
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