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EP 23: Top 10 Fantasy Football TEs, Top 5 DEFs, & Top 5 Ks · 3 Guys, 6 Balls NFL Podcast

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Welcome to Three guys 6 Balls NFL Podcast Welcome to episode
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23 Three guys 6 balls NFL Podcast Today we finish up our
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fantasy rankings with our top ten tight ends, our top five
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kickers, and our top five defenses.
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So what do you guys who said top five?
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If we did 5 defenses and five kickers, I would not have been
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ready. Where do you guys want to start?
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You want to start with the kickers, the defenses, or the
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tight ends. Well, I always have a good tight
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end, so let's go ahead and start there.
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OK, you want to save the kickers the main event for last.
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Yeah. That way when people, when we
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when we finish doing defenses, people will just turn the show
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off. That's great.
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Yeah. OK, so we'll start with our top
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ten tight ends. So before we start that though,
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I got to ask, do any of you guys have cow pits in your top 10?
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We'll find out when we do that, we'll find out.
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OK, fine. All right, Well, let's start
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with number one. Will, who do you have as your
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number one fantasy football tight end this year?
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OK, before I start, it's not cow pits.
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Let's start there. OK, Thank goodness.
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Here's. Here's the problem with tight
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ends is there really aren't 10 good, good ones in the lake,
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right? And so, and then it comes and
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goes every year by like tight end, it's just we're all going
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to have the same base list. I bet we've got, I bet there's
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12 different players amongst our three lists and that's just
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going to where it's at. So Brock Bowers, right?
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Brock Bowers is number 1. He, he was super good last year.
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There's no reason to think he won't be super good this year.
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Look at Pete Carroll's Titans and Chip Kelly's Titans of the
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past. And that's just what you're
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going to get in this year. This might be the best Titan
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ship Kelly's ever had to work with.
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And so they're just going to get used even more doing him and
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Ashton Gente and statistically one of the most accurate
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quarterbacks as the seasons go on.
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Geno Smith, it's just going to be very successful for him.
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So Brock Bowers. Avery, do you have Brock Bowers
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as well? He's not even on my list, dude.
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OK, quit lying CD Lamb situation.
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No, he's, yeah, he's my first guy.
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It's boring, it's so boring, but it's it's just what it is.
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I have one. I haven't missed my number one,
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but I did actually have a debate between him and my number 2.
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I did. Hey, so who's your number two
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that? Is your #2.
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My number 2 is Trey McBride. He was one of two tight ends
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with over 100 catches last year and there's only one other
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option in that offense as far as a receiving threat and it's
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Marvin Harrison. There's Marvin Harrison junior
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and there's Trey McBride and there's there's other guys, yes,
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who can catch the ball every now and then, but there's not enough
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guys in that. There's really nobody else in
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that offense who can take away enough targets from Trey McBride
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to where I I don't think he's going to have a significant dip.
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I think he's going to be right up there with where he was last
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year. I don't disagree.
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I don't have them this high because there's so few options
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in that offense. And it's one of these like catch
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22, we don't have any guys we can stop the the the two guys
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that we expect anything from, but there's also only two guys
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who somebody has to put up the points, right, so.
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Exactly. And we're trying to write the
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reason I debated whether it's going to be it where he's going
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to be one or two is because he hasn't had very many touchdowns,
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especially last year. But I think, you know, if the
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Cardinals focus on an making an effort to get him more
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touchdowns, then he could potentially be the number one
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tight end. And with Brock Bowers, I know
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he's still going to be great, but you know, the offense is
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going to have a lot more focus on the run, which could
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potentially dip into his numbers a little bit.
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But the same thing like he's really, I mean, Jacoby Myers, I
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really like him a lot for the Raiders, but I don't think
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there's another like true like scary threat in that offense
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aside from Brock Bowers when it comes to receiving.
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Agreed. I do think from the Raiders that
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we're going to get a lot of tight end screens and running
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back screens and things like that to get to get the ball out
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of Gino's hands quicker and into the playmakers hands.
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And when it comes to true playmakers, you've really, I
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mean, there's more than just the two of them.
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But really, it comes down to Brock Powers and hopefully
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Ashton Gente, right? So who's your number 2 will?
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I actually have George Kittle and I have him this high because
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again, this is kind of the same argument.
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We're running out of options in San Francisco.
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Their team is just not as good as it has been.
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And there's, there's one consistent that has remained the
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test of time and it's George Kittle.
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And I, I just think that they're, they're going to get
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back to what they're good at. If Christian McCaffrey can stay
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healthy. Christian McCaffrey stay healthy
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is possibly the best thing for George Kettle because if they
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run the ball more than they're going to get the ball to tie
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anymore and it opens up the seam because the linebackers have to
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step down. It's this whole, the whole
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thing. It's right.
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It's, it's the whole thing. And so so if we're thinking
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Christian McCaffrey is going to stay healthy this year, then I
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expect George Kettle to have a really good year too.
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I thought you guys weren't expecting him to be healthy.
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I don't, but I, you know, I don't know, I do somebody again,
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somebody has to do something on the 49ers, right?
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And so it's it's going to be George Kittle all.
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Right, Avery, do you have either George Kittle or Trey McBride as
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your number 2 tight end? I.
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Have George Skittle. OK, I actually have George
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Kittle as my #3 tight end. Imagine.
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Fun fact, he actually was the, the number one tight end in
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points per game last year, but he missed, he missed two games.
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So that's why he was the, he wasn't ranked number one in
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overall points, but he was the leader in points per game.
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So yeah, I've missed my number three.
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Well, who's your #3 fantasy tight end this year?
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I have Sam Laporta. I I mean like 2 years ago I had
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a huge year last year, people knew what his name was, so
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nobody cared about him anymore, which is the way Titans go,
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right? Once people know your name, they
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don't care anymore. And so I don't know, I think
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that that the Vikings, Nope, wrong team, wrong team.
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I even have Sam Laporta hyphen Det written down right here
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right in front of my face. At least he recognized it right
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away. He knew I was wrong.
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Sam Porter from Detroit, I think Detroit can have a good year
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this year that I don't. I don't see anything that that
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shows them being worse on offense this year than last
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year. But obviously what they did last
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year didn't get them to where they wanted to go.
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So they have to change some game plan and I think that's the game
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itself is trending more towards running again and running in the
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football, passing the tight ends, kind of kind of going back
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to some old school football and the way it used to be.
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And I think it's going to benefit.
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Titan is pretty heavy this year. And you've got Dan Campbell up
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there in Detroit and he loves Smash Mouth football, and you're
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going to get that out of San Luporia all.
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Right. Well, Avery, who's your #3
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fantasy tight end Trey McBride. All right, cool.
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Well, who's your number? Who's disheartened?
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Yeah, Trey Mcbray. Yeah, Yeah.
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We're, we're talking about and we'll move on.
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It was such a such a mystery as to like who it could have been.
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Yeah, I know. He was trying to find a way to
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do a CD lamp thing in there, but he couldn't figure out how to do
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it this time, so he was disappointed.
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Yeah, fair enough. All right, well, who do you have
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as your #4 fantasy tight end? Try to make pride.
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It is Trey McBride. Yeah, yeah, try McBride.
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I've got him here. I I don't, I still don't trust
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Kyler Murray. I don't trust him as far as he
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can run every step. And so I I don't know.
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I just don't. He will be.
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I don't know what what year is he in his career?
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Is this Year 5? Year 4.
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Oh, more than that. Oh, there's no.
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Are you serious? Yeah.
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Is he even that old? This is going to be year 7.
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Oh gosh, am I that old? He's just going to be the
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starter in Arizona for I mean, they're kind of stuck in the
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same scenario that Dallas is stuck in.
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So I used to bring them and do it.
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Your quarterback is good enough to be a starter, but not good
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enough to get you anywhere you want to go.
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And so the team's just going to keep having them be the guy.
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And and that's just where the Cardinals are.
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I must say. Vikings again.
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I bet the Vikings stuck in my head.
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I don't even like the Vikings, especially their quarterback.
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You just love JJ McCarthy. I don't.
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I don't anyway. Avery, who do you have is your
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#4 tight end? Sam LaPorte.
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Look, this is this is tight ends, right?
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Like I said, we're going to have there's going to be 12 total
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guys that are going to be in these lists and and that's
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maybe. This might be a bit of a
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surprise. I might have might have ranked
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this guy a little bit too high. Wait, can I guess?
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Sure. You've got Travis Kelsey, don't
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you? It is Travis Kelsey.
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Yeah, crushed it. My #4 fantasy tight end this
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year is Travis Kelsey. Now I know last year he
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statistically he had the worst season of his career in
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touchdowns in receiving yards, but he still had 97 catches.
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He was 3 catches away from 100 catches and there was only two
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tight ends that had over 100 catches last year.
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When Patrick Mahomes needs a guy, it's Travis Kelsey.
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He's looking for Travis Kelsey. And it doesn't matter if for
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fantasy, it doesn't matter if Travis Kelsey is getting 1000
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yards or if he's getting 823 yards.
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As long as he's getting those catches, he's gonna have the
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points. And so I have.
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I think Chavez Kelsey is gonna have a really good year.
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I think he's going to do better than he did last year, actually,
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because I think he is very motivated after they lost that
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Super Bowl. And so I think that Patrick
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Mahomes and Travis Kelsey are going to come out and they're
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going to. Have a little bit of.
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Fire underneath them and I think Travis Kelsey is going to have
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AI mean it's not really a bounce back season because he still had
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a really good season, but I think he's going to have what
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you could consider a bounce back season for a tight end.
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And so I have him as my number four guy.
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I can't believe he only had three touchdowns last year.
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I know now he didn't play in the final game this season, but
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still only three touchdowns for him over the year.
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That's that's crazy. And you know, the last time that
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Travis Kelsey finished outside of the top five in tight ends
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for fantasy was in 2015. So he's been in the top five
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every single year since 2016. And so I think he's going to do
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it again this year. He was also the third most
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targeted tight end out of all the tight ends last year.
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And so I think, again, you know, if Patrick Mahomes needs a guy,
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he's looking for Travis Kelsey. That's his first guy that he's
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going to go to every single time.
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Well, and I I have obviously had Travis Kelce on my list just a
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bit lower. If you're talking PPR, he had 97
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receptions last season. That's just 97 free fantasy
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points. If you're doing 4 point, I mean,
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it's hard to argue with that. I mean, one game he had 14
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receptions, he went 14 of 16. My touch, How many?
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Yards. Did he have that game?
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100 even. OK, no touchdowns.
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So 14 points on on target receptions, 10 points on yards.
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It's hard to argue with those with the fantasy numbers.
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Now granted, that was just one week, but the.
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Quarterbacks want their their safety blanket, and Travis
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Kelsey is going to be that safety blanket as long as he's
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on that field. Yes.
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All right. Well, who do you guys have as
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your number 5 fantasy tight end? David, I got.
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I got Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews.
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I think he's after his little performance.
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Even with those hands, his performance issues.
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Because of those hands, I think he's going to, I think he's
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going to make a good return. I think that's the last taste he
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left in everyone's mouth and he wants to change that.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to catch you up there.
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I bet not one Titan has put in more work in the offseason than
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Mark Andrews. I I bet there's there's some
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reality to that. I also have Mark Andrews on my
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list just a bit lower as well. I don't hate it here, no.
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I actually don't have him on my list.
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And the reason why is because if you look at his last six games,
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he had a touchdown in every single one of those.
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And I just felt like his fantasy value was based off of if he's
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getting a touchdown or not. And so like, if you take away
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those touchdowns, his fantasy points are very good.
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And so I just that's why I didn't rank him in my top 10 is
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because I felt like he was just kind of touchdown reliant.
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And you know, maybe he's just good at getting touchdowns.
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I don't know. But if you take the nose away,
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yeah, right. That was that was a 2 point
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conversion. So it's not tick.
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I think the point sticks unlike his hands.
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Anyway, will who do you have as your number 5 tight ends?
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I had TJ Hawkinson. He's my #5 too.
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Minnesota TJ Hawkinson Listen, don't think that this is a will
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turning the page on JJ McCarthy because it is not happening.
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That was my first thought. But do you know what bad
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quarterbacks need? Safety blankets.
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Bingo. And and and the weak, the weak
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boy that is JJ McCarthy. It just needs needs like.
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He's a sophomore in high school. All right, take 2.
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This small child comes in to Minnesota.
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Sweet baby man JJ McCarthy is going to need his his safety
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blanket and his Binky, which is TJ Hawkinson.
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He's not going to be able to get the ball to Justin Jefferson,
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which is why I had them rated lower on my wide receiver duos I
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had. I didn't, you know, I had them
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on my duos. You didn't have them on your.
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Duo and I I have Justin Jefferson's my #4 wide receiver.
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It's all revolved around JJ McCarthy and him being inept and
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unable to get the ball down the field.
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Yeah, I have him as my #5 guy for the same reason.
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I think JJ McCarthy's going to need a safety net.
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And, you know, I think Justin Jefferson is still going to be a
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very valuable fantasy wide receiver.
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But I think TJ Hawkinson is going to get back to his status
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of being a top five fantasy tight end like he was in 2022
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and 2023, especially now with JJ McCarthy.
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Because, like you said, he needs that safety net.
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And so when he needs a, you know, a short pass just to get
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rid of the ball because he has nowhere else to go, it's going
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to go to TJ Hawkinson. All right, number six suit you
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guys have is your number six fantasy tight end this year.
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Every I'll go first to start. I'm just kidding.
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You go. I got.
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I got to try to scale. See there.
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Yeah. I think he's, I think, I mean
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the Chiefs last year just had AI want to say like a poor
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offensive year, but they just snuck by every team.
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It was more just like, we know we're going to get to the
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playoffs. We're not worried about it.
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It was just like pure luck. Yeah.
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Oh, wait. Did you just say the refs on
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their side are? You are you taking.
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My political I thought, I thought you didn't believe in
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that. Who said that was the?
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Element said that Joel's making stuff off, dude.
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Joel. Cut is a crack pal.
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Fun fact here the two games after the Aries tour ended,
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Taylor Swift's Aries tour ended the two following games, Travis
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Kelsey put up 27 yards in one and 30 yards in the next.
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No touchdowns, just did not perform well in the two games
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following the finish of the Aries tour and in the there's
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the last game of the season that he played in was on Christmas
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Day and he did perform well. He had 84 yards in a touchdown
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on 8 reception. So like like it's super
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anecdotal and doesn't really mean anything but it is semi
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coincidental. Yeah, well, who do you have at
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six? 6 I have David Injoku.
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OK, honestly, CCTJ Hawkinson, right, You've got the old man,
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the not officially convicted felon, the washed up, can you
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pick it? And then the two rookies all
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fighting for the starting spot and I just don't trust any of
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them. And like I just said, with JJ
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McCarthy, go back to incapable quarterbacks need a safety
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blanket and and here we are. I think it's and and joke.
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He's not a bad tight end and he's really good.
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He's going to benefit wildly from this so.
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OK, yeah, I have Sam LaPorte as my number six, and, you know, I
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think he's a really good tight end.
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He did have a little bit of dip in production last year from his
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rookie season. And I think the reason for that
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is just because that offense just has so many weapons.
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There's so many weapons in that offense that I don't think that
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Sam LaPorte is going to be ranked super high.
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But I do have them at six because that offense is still
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going to be dynamic. I know they lost Ben Johnson,
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but they still have a lot of the same key players.
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And so I don't see any reason why that offense is going to
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take a significant step back. And so Sam Laporta is going to
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still have a significant role for that team, right #7 Who do
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you guys have as your #7 fantasy tight end?
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I got Evan Ingram. Me too, shut up, Nope #7.
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I think, I think him and Bonex are going to be, well, I think
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Bonex with everybody's going to be magic.
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And I think, I think Evan will be a recipient of that so.
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We got Bonex at 7:00 and we got Evan Ingram at 7:00.
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Do we? Did we?
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Yep, we had him at 7:00. We all did.
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Except doesn't sound like Will has Evan Ingram at 7:00.
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I don't have that we. All did except for will, so not.
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But just before we get to Wills number 7, Evan Ingram.
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Two years ago in 2023, he had 114 catches.
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Last year he was banged up. I just think that Bo Nicks is
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going to love having a decent tight end.
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Last year his top tight end had 188 receiving yards.
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And so the addition of Evan Ingram is going.
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To be, I'm sorry, on the season. On the season, yes, 100
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receiving is terrible. Bonex got nothing from his tight
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ends last year. And so with a guy like Evan
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Ingram, he's going to love having a tight end who is
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actually capable of doing something because now he has an
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additional place to go. He has that safety net that he
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didn't really have last year. And so between the offensive
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line and Evan Ingram, I think Bonex is going to take the next
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step. Even though he had a really good
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year last year, I think he's going to have another really
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good season this year because I really like what the Broncos
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have put around Bonex. Yes.
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I don't even know what else to say.
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Just yes. All right, well, who you got?
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At #7 I have Travis Crown C. That's too low.
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Probably is. I'm not changing it, but it
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probably is all right. Well Will, who do you have in
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#8? I'm not proud of this, OK?
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It's not cow pits. It's on safety breath.
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It's not cow pits. I have Tyler Warren,
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Indianapolis. I don't hate that.
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I don't hate that. I wait.
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Who's going to throw him the ball, though?
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That is the problem, right? I look, this is what number?
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What, 5 teacher, Hawkinson, 6th, David and Joe, who I guess
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Travis Scales doesn't really count at 7:00, but here we are
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at #8 So this is my third 1/2 as my third guy who gets wanted
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under the same rug of bad quarterbacks need good tight
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ends, right? And these rookies come in and
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nobody really knows what they can do yet.
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Nobody really knows anything about him.
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Look at Samuel Porter's first year.
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And so these guys come in and they're like, they're taking a
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role on fire because nobody really knows what to do with it.
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And I think they're going to lean heavy on Jonathan Taylor
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and as we already mentioned. A good running game is the best
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for the tight end and so I think I think Tyler Warren has a good
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shot of having a good season because of how much they're
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going to have to use Jonas and Taylor.
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OK, yeah, I don't hate that at all.
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Before we get to Avery's number 8, I have a question for you
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guys about Tyler Warren. What are the chances that Tyler
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Warren has the same type of rookie season as Brock Bowers?
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Very low. Yeah, Blow.
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I know just because of the quarterback or.
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I think it's, I think it's the whole team.
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Because the Raiders were bad last year.
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Right, but the Raiders didn't have a good run game color,
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which you will. They didn't really have a good
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they didn't really have a good anything except for Brock
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Bowers. Can the the Colts have a proven
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run game? I I was going to say
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quarterback. It's a some of them, but you
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can't say that, right? You've got statistically 2 worst
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quarterbacks in the league over the last few years on that team
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between AR5 and what is it, Daniel Jones 6 or whatever, DJ 6
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Danny Dimes. Yeah, sure.
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Just you just got it's worse or worser.
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It's really you're too hard about that.
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And so Brock Bowers quarterbacks were garbage.
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Though. Right.
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But again, it comes back to they didn't have any other options
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except for Brock Bowers. The Colts have Jonathan Taylor.
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Am I saying yeah, I keep saying his name.
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It keeps sounding wrong. Anyway, they keep they have
21:45
drums and Taylor and so they're going to rely on the run game.
21:47
They don't have to rely on Tyler Warren.
21:50
They they can rely on somebody else and have have Tyler Warren
21:55
or I don't know if I name a cold receiver off the top of my head
21:59
right now. I almost said Ty Hilton and
22:01
that's not it. Ty Hilton.
22:03
Yeah, Ty Hilton. That's a long.
22:05
Time ago. Yeah, that was years ago.
22:08
Basically have Marvin Harrison senior house.
22:09
They're still catching them. All right.
22:11
Dallas Clark, all those guys. Pink Manning.
22:15
So I started paying attention to the Colts.
22:18
They did actually have 3 receivers who had over 800 yards
22:21
last year. Just a fun fact.
22:23
Who threw them the ball? Curtis Painter.
22:27
Anthony Richardson was out there for I think 11 games.
22:30
OK. And there's still 6 more than in
22:32
the season, Joe. Flacco.
22:35
It was Joe Flacco. Oh, you're right, it was Joe
22:37
Flacco. Now he is leading the charge in
22:39
Cleveland. Is he listening to their starter
22:41
right now? Yes.
22:43
Currently. Yeah, yes, he is.
22:46
He was the before mentioned old man.
22:48
Yes, yes, I picked up on that. All right, Avery, who is your #8
22:54
fantasy tight end this year? Colston, Loveland.
23:03
I. Think Will's going to not Yeah,
23:05
Will doesn't like that one because just side note, side
23:09
note, side note, one of our friends from Cheese Heads in the
23:12
Bear podcast was listening to our podcast just a few hours
23:15
ago, actually, And he texted me and he was like, dude, how does
23:19
Will have Javonte Williams at #7 but he thinks Caleb Williams is
23:23
a bad quarterback. Tell him you made the mistake of
23:29
believing. That shout out, Brennan, shout
23:31
out. Brennan reason to to all this.
23:33
All right, Avery, why is he? Why is he your number 8 guy?
23:36
I think he's good. No, I I think having Caleb
23:40
Williams, I think having Colson Loveland, he's definitely not a
23:44
not as much of A blocker. I think he's going to be a
23:46
better vertical threat and I just like rookies for some of
23:50
these fantasy positions just because I feel like they have
23:53
one year before everyone figures them out.
23:56
You can use them a little bit better.
23:57
Absolutely. Yeah, kind of like the same
24:00
thing with Sam LaPorte. Like he had a really good rookie
24:02
year and then he kind of took a little bit of a dip last year,
24:05
even though he was still very productive.
24:06
He just didn't have the same kind of stats 'cause people kind
24:10
of like knew what he was going to do a little bit more so.
24:13
Didn't I just say that like a minute and a half ago?
24:16
Say what? Sorry, I'm not here.
24:17
Keep going, keep going. Keep going.
24:23
Yeah, I I think it's also that I think it's the the fact that
24:27
they're a rookie, like no one really knows what they're going
24:30
to bring. But also I feel like the fans
24:32
usually end up clamoring for their rookies to play.
24:35
Like they get excited seeing them drafted and they want to
24:37
see them in action rather than wait a few years.
24:40
And especially for Strong. First round tightness.
24:43
First round skill positions I think people are more lenient
24:47
with a well semi lenient with a quarterback.
24:49
But first round skill positions you want to see your receiver in
24:53
there. I can't imagine how much
24:56
Cardinals fans were screaming just to throw Marvin Harrison
24:59
the ball no matter what. Doesn't matter still, just just
25:02
give it to him. And the same with these running
25:04
backs, Like, like every play, every time the ball doesn't go
25:08
to Ashton Gente, there's going to be a Raiders fan saying, why
25:11
do we even draft this guy? It would have gone to him 10
25:13
times in a row. And on the 11th, he's taking a
25:17
break, he's on the bench, getting some water for a second,
25:19
he's in the game. Why do we draft this guy?
25:22
And then they'll throw it to Brock Bowers and he'll be like,
25:24
OK, OK, that's fine. Yeah, just the way it goes.
25:27
Die hard fans. All right, I like the rookies in
25:29
there. All right, well, let's get to #9
25:32
Who's your? Wait, did you say you're #8
25:34
Joel? No, I didn't.
25:36
I was going to skip myself. Well, I don't.
25:38
It's reminding me I have David and Joko at #8 and the reason I
25:42
have him at #8 is just because I am not sure about the
25:46
quarterback position at all. Like, I know Joe Flacco is
25:50
probably going to be the starter for the first few games, but I
25:52
don't know how long he's going to be in there.
25:54
I don't know how long Joe Flacco is going to be the starter for
25:56
the Browns. How long is it going to take
25:58
before his shooter Sanders or before it's somebody else?
26:01
And I just like, you know, one guy like Joe Flacco could really
26:05
like David and Joku. One guy could really like Jerry
26:08
Judy. So I just don't know who the
26:10
preferred target is going to be for each quarterback when they
26:14
get in the game because at some point the Browns will have a
26:16
different quarterback in the game.
26:18
It's not going to be Joe Flacco the whole season, in my opinion.
26:20
So I just I'm just not sure who is going to favor in Joku and
26:25
who's not. And so that just, I think he's
26:29
going to be really good still. I just that's why I have him
26:31
ranked a little bit lower. I don't like that you went to
26:35
Sanders over telling Gabriel. Neither do I.
26:37
So I just wanted that to be in. I wanted it to be noted.
26:41
That Joel hates the dust in your in your.
26:45
That we disapproved of that. Joel loves Shudora Sanders.
26:49
You heard it here first. I was just going for popularity.
26:52
OK, I want to be popular. Well, you're going to put a clip
26:55
out should your standards brown starter and that is just you
26:58
saying that at some point he may start.
27:01
I'm actually going to click you saying that right then.
27:07
That's in the chat for me. All right #9 where is your #9
27:12
fantasy tight end? Coast in leveland.
27:15
Nice. Yeah, 2 rookies.
27:18
I got 2 rookies back-to-back, 8:00 and 9:00 for all of the
27:21
things that were already said, right?
27:23
Like, like Chicago is going to suck.
27:27
And so they're going to need, again, we've got little boy JJ
27:30
McCarthy and slightly older adolescents Caleb Williams.
27:35
They're going to need their pacifiers and their baby
27:37
bottles. And these young tight ends are
27:39
going to be giving it to them. So here we are.
27:41
Daddy's home. Give the ball to your tight
27:43
ends. All right, Avery, how about you?
27:45
Who's your number 9? Tyler Warren for the same.
27:53
Reason I didn't put either of those guys in my top ten because
27:56
I felt like my my 9 and 10 are kind of picks that I don't feel
27:59
like people are going to like very much, but I feel like these
28:02
guys are going to have productive seasons.
28:04
So my #9 is Jake Ferguson for the Dallas Cowboys.
28:09
And I just think that, oh, go ahead.
28:11
As I thought about putting them on my list, but after putting
28:14
Jovante Williams at #7 I felt like I could not possibly put
28:18
Jake Ferguson in my list. Yeah, I just feel like that with
28:22
George Pickens. He's not only going to open
28:24
things up for CD Lamb, but he's going to open things up for Jake
28:27
Ferguson as well. George Pickens is going to open
28:30
up things over the top, CD Lamb's going to open things
28:33
everywhere, and that's going to open things up for Jake Ferguson
28:36
in the middle. And so I feel like as long as
28:38
Dak Prescott is healthy, that's really the key.
28:40
As long as he's healthy and he's not playing like absolute
28:43
garbage like he was last year when he was healthy, the the
28:48
Cowboy, I mean, the defense is just going to be bad.
28:50
So the, the Cowboys are going to be throwing the ball a lot
28:53
because they're down similar to the Bengals last year.
28:56
And so I think that Jake Ferguson is going to have a nice
28:59
season in 2023. He actually finished as the 9th
29:03
tight end in fantasy. And so I think he's going to
29:05
return to his 2023 fantasy form. And George Pickens is going to
29:09
help not only CD Lamb in that offense, but Jake Ferguson as
29:12
well. What will it take for Joe Milton
29:16
to see this, to see the field this year?
29:19
Besides that, getting hurt. I don't think he sees the field.
29:23
There's no way Jerry Jones is paying him that much money.
29:25
And he's as long as as long as Dak Prescott has that contract.
29:30
He could be the worst quarterback in the league and
29:34
Jerry Jones would be like, Nope, I paid him 60 million a year.
29:37
We're winning the Super Bowl. I mean, his record, Dak's record
29:40
last year was three and five. Yeah, it was bad.
29:43
He was bad. Hey, Jerry.
29:45
Still thought that they could win the Super Bowl.
29:47
We're in it. He got hurt, I understand that,
29:49
and he was out for half the season, but still I just, I
29:53
don't know. I just am not a fan of my own
29:57
quarterback. And nobody blames you for that,
30:01
Will. Yeah.
30:02
Anyway. All right.
30:03
Are we on 10? We are.
30:05
Last one. OK, Avery, let's start with you
30:09
on this one. Who's your number 10 fantasy
30:10
tight end? All right, so I got I got a guy
30:17
my 10 spot special. I'm taking a leap of faith here.
30:22
I think with the incoming quarterback that he's receiving,
30:26
I think Chig Okonkwo, he's going to have a breakout year.
30:32
And this has nothing to do with the fact that he was on my
30:36
brother's podcast several months ago.
30:40
Nothing to do with that at all. But if he does want to come onto
30:44
this podcast, I'm sure we can make room.
30:47
We'd love to have. You.
30:48
I have you at 10. If you come on this podcast, I
30:52
will move you to my #10 spot. I will move you.
30:54
We'll move you up. I'll move you to number one.
30:57
Just come on this podcast. I won't.
31:03
Well, now he's not. Going to come.
31:04
Thanks, Will. Yeah, it's time to personal.
31:07
He needed, he needed the full sweep.
31:09
Yeah, I think I think he'll be good.
31:11
I think it is still a little up in the air, like what
31:14
Tennessee's offense is going to look like and how they're going
31:18
to adjust. I'm not even completely solving
31:20
Cam Ward, but I think if he does well, I think Jig does really
31:25
well as well. Really well as well.
31:26
Yeah, I think he's going to be the security blanket like we've
31:29
talked about several times. So I think he could have a nice
31:32
season. I didn't put him in my top 10,
31:33
but I think he could have a better season than he's had so
31:36
far in his career. So, well, who's your number 10
31:39
fantasy tight end? I have Mark Andrews.
31:44
There's the idea. I the only reason I don't have
31:48
him hired. No, of course not.
31:49
The only reason I don't have him hired anyway.
31:57
Let's talk more about Kyle Pitts.
32:00
I swear to if you have Kyle Pitts, I'm going to leave.
32:02
I'm just going to. I'm going to end the call and
32:04
leave anyway. The only reason I don't have
32:09
Mark Andrews higher is because Isaiah likely, he's getting more
32:12
and more and more playing time and when he's in, he gets the
32:15
ball more. And so you can't throw the ball
32:17
to two tight ends consistently all season. 1 of them is going
32:22
to take over. And I fear that his minor
32:27
receiving problem that the end of last season are going to have
32:31
a carryover effect into this season.
32:34
And he lost trust by Lamar Jackson.
32:37
Minor. I hardly know her.
32:42
Nice. All right, you guys ready for my
32:46
#10 fantasy tight end? Do it, I dare.
32:48
You we need to take a guess. My #10 don't say it.
32:52
Yes, don't say it yet. Don't say it yet.
32:53
Don't say it yet. OK, OK, OK.
32:56
You got TJ Hawkinson cowpits. I already said take you TJ
32:59
Hawkinson. Oh, you didn't?
33:00
Is it really cowpits? No, it's not cowpits.
33:03
And it's not Hawkinson. It's not Hawkinson though.
33:06
I have, I have Hawkinson, it's #5.
33:09
Oh yeah, it will be. It will be.
33:12
Has this name been said already? No Dallas, no go, dirt.
33:16
Nope. Oh, is it Otto?
33:18
What's his name? Oh, it's Tucker Kraft.
33:20
It's Tucker Kraft. Nope, it's not.
33:22
And it's not Kate I. Well, then it's wrong, so
33:24
whatever you have to say, I don't.
33:26
Really. He's a tight end in the NFC
33:29
East. Oh, it's it's no, yes.
33:33
Zach Ertz. Yes.
33:35
It is Eckerts. I was kind of surprised that his
33:38
stats from last year, so he finished as the 7th overall
33:41
tight ended fantasy and he was ninth in points per game.
33:44
And we've kind of talked about this already too, is with Terry
33:47
Mclaurin not being there for the Commanders wide receiver.
33:50
One is Debo Samuel. That seems like that Jaden
33:54
Daniels is going to need a security blanket to me.
33:58
A real receiver is the receiver that your other receiver tells
34:02
you not to worry about. It's just a tight end.
34:06
Demo Samuels looking a little chunky out there.
34:09
Dude, he looks slow as hell. And some of these, these
34:12
practice videos, I like we've talked about these media teams
34:17
gassing these players up and I, some of these that they put out,
34:23
they've purposely got to be trying to get these players
34:26
knocked back down like that, that one of Devo Samuel running
34:30
that wheel or whatever round it was post Craftsman.
34:32
I don't remember what it was, but he did not live very fast.
34:36
And it was just like this is not really what you want here.
34:40
OK, Since we're kind of getting a little bit low on time, let's
34:44
go through our top five defenses fairly quickly.
34:47
I mean, there's not a whole lot to say about defenses here, but
34:50
Avery, we'll start with you on this one.
34:51
Who is your number one? Goes?
34:55
Who's not Joe? Who's your number one?
35:03
For the Denver Broncos. Dang it.
35:06
You didn't leave the. Number one fantasy defense this
35:09
year, I, I wanted to put them at 2:00 because I'm going against
35:14
myself here with the statistics and history, because there's
35:18
never been, at least since 2001, there's never been a defense
35:21
that has repeated as the number one defense in back-to-back
35:25
years. Not one time.
35:28
I just think the Broncos defense is special.
35:31
I you know, they're really good at sacks.
35:33
They're really good at getting turnovers.
35:35
They're really good at just making things hard for the
35:38
opposing offense. And you know, this, this defense
35:42
does have to face the Chiefs twice.
35:44
They have to face the Raiders twice, who are going to be
35:46
significantly better. They have to play the Chargers
35:48
twice. And so none of those games are
35:50
going to be easy. They also have to play the
35:52
Bengals, the Eagles, Commanders and Packers.
35:55
So they have a pretty tough schedule.
35:57
But I think this defense is special.
35:59
And so I really wanted to not put them at 1:00 just because of
36:02
the the history and statistics that I usually follow.
36:05
But I put them at 1:00 just because I think that this is a
36:07
special defense, right #2 Who's your number 2 fantasy defense
36:11
this year? Will.
36:13
The Denver Broncos. Who was your first?
36:16
Who was your? 1st.
36:17
Ravens. Ravens.
36:20
I got the Eagles. I have the Minnesota Vikings,
36:25
they tied for the most takeaways last season.
36:27
They're also fourth in sacks. And you know, I don't know how
36:31
this offense is going to be, but if the offense can be just like
36:34
any amount of decent, then I think the defense is going to be
36:38
similar to what it was last year.
36:40
Right #3 Who do you got at 3 Will?
36:43
I have the Houston Texans. I know I said it was on purpose.
36:49
My 3. Yep, here's your #3 defense.
36:52
Ravens. I have the Pittsburgh Steelers
36:56
because they were also tied for the most takeaways last season.
36:59
And you know, their their offense is, I don't really know
37:03
what their offense is going to be.
37:04
I don't think it's going to be great.
37:05
I think it could be average, but the Steelers defense is used to
37:08
working with a below average offense and so I don't see any
37:13
reason why they can't repeat the success they had defending me.
37:17
You don't think is that the Aaron Rodgers LED George Pickens
37:22
less Steelers offense is going to be amazing?
37:25
No, I'm. Telling you that the Will Howard
37:27
LED Steelers offense is not going to be amazing.
37:29
You shut your whore mouth. It was your #4.
37:38
It was your #4 fantasy defense. Me.
37:42
The Vikings. That's who I have.
37:45
I have the Baltimore Ravens. I really like what the Ravens
37:48
did this year to address their secondary because they ranked
37:51
11th in fantasy points last year.
37:53
They were the number one rushing defense, but their secondary was
37:57
not very good. And they made some moves to
37:59
address that defense like signing Jair Alexander and they
38:03
signed or they drafted Malachi Starks in the first round.
38:06
And so I think they made some moves to address that secondary.
38:09
And so I think that defense overall is just going to be
38:11
pretty solid. So I put them at 4.
38:12
It also helps that they have Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson,
38:15
and so you know they're probably going to allow less points than
38:19
some other defenses because they're not going to be on the
38:21
field as much because you have those two guys on offense who
38:24
are just taking up the clock by running the ball.
38:27
All right #5 who's your number 5 fantasy defense?
38:32
The the Eagles. Has it the Eagles?
38:34
I wish. Desert Eagles will probably be
38:38
better defense than honestly I wouldn't.
38:40
Stop a lot of people. I'd take.
38:42
The Eagles over the Eagles I have the I have the lions the.
38:49
Lions. Yeah, it was between them and
38:52
the Lions. And I decided to go with the
38:54
Lions. I think they're they're on a
38:57
revenge tour. I think they're pissed at the
39:00
the Redskins, the Washington Redskins, and I think they're.
39:06
I don't know who that is. It replaced the Redskins with
39:13
the Commanders, the people that eliminated them.
39:16
That's. Actually, they replaced the
39:18
Redskins with the football team. They went from Redskins.
39:23
Too we're. Not going to have a name.
39:25
Actually, we're just going to take a couple years time out.
39:27
We just won't have a name. This is our punishment.
39:30
We did the same. Now we won't do a thing.
39:32
And then what plays with the commanders, the guys who wipe
39:35
them out? And then once we get the
39:37
commanders as her name, we're still going to keep our logo as
39:39
just AW, yeah. Well, they can't have AC, that's
39:45
trick ago. Yeah, but you can't just have
39:50
AAW. What's wrong with the W?
39:53
Go on, I'm listening, Will. Starts with W, that's what's
39:58
wrong with it. Get fricked, pal.
40:00
It's will. It's will will.
40:05
OK, I have the Houston Texans. I have the Houston Texans as my
40:09
#5 defense. They ranked #5 last year they
40:12
tied for the 4th most sacks and they had the fifth most
40:15
takeaways. So I think they're going to be a
40:17
really good defense again this year.
40:19
They've got some really good players.
40:20
They have Derek Singly, junior in the secondary, they've got
40:24
Will Anderson. He's one of the most young
40:28
dynamic players in the league right now on defense.
40:30
So I think they're going to be really good, just like they were
40:33
last year. All right, you guys ready for
40:35
the main event? Top five fantasy kickers?
40:38
Now, before we start going down the list, do kickers matter in
40:43
fantasy? Yes, absolutely they do because
40:47
they are on your team and they can give you points or they can
40:49
take points away from you. It's actually a really good
40:51
point. Thank you, I made it.
40:55
So I went back over the last five seasons and I looked at the
40:59
the average point differential between the number one kicker
41:03
and the number 10 kicker. And I only used kickers that
41:05
played at least eight games for this step.
41:07
But on average over the last five years, the difference in
41:11
points between the number one kicker and the number 10 kicker
41:14
is 1.96 points per game, which can win or.
41:18
Lose you a game, A championship. Yes.
41:22
So even though it's only an average of two points between #1
41:25
and #10 kickers do matter in fantasy.
41:29
Yeah, my fantasies. They play a large part in my
41:34
fantasies. All right, who is your #1
41:40
fantasy kicker this year? Let's help you go first this
41:44
time, OK, Well, you. Have to ask who used?
41:47
Me, I was doing it. I'm doing the thing.
41:49
OK, You know what? For that Avery, who's your
41:52
number one kicker this year? Oh geez.
41:54
OK. Damn little.
41:57
Oh my golly. Little #1.
42:01
I have. I have probably the best this is
42:04
out of all the positions we've done, I think Kickers is the one
42:07
that I feel the most confident about.
42:09
I think this is the I think but GMs would pay for this list.
42:15
He kicks. 170 yard field goal and he's the number.
42:17
One kicker. I also think that we talked
42:20
about pre season not really mattering for stat wise.
42:23
I think kicker and punter are the only two positions where
42:26
your pre season actually matters for making a team or not.
42:29
Especially if you're in like a kicking competition where you
42:31
might not make it. You can you can make up for a
42:35
lot of staff in practice, but in practice as a kicker or a
42:38
punter. Not saying it's easy.
42:40
I'm not saying either position is easy, but you don't get the
42:43
same level of of quality because you're not, even if your team is
42:49
rushing, no one, no one on your practice squad is rushing to
42:52
knock you out, right? You're not really rushing to to
42:55
do that. But in a preseason game, they're
42:58
trying to stop you from scoring points because those guys are
43:01
actually trying to make the team.
43:02
Still. If you're doing special teams,
43:04
they're trying to make the team and make sure they have they
43:06
have a paycheck coming. And so kicker and punter are
43:09
really the only two in the preseason that I think actually
43:12
matters. So when, when Cam Little, right?
43:15
That's his name. Yes, Lil Cam.
43:17
Yeah. Yeah, when Lil Cam when when Lil
43:22
Cam 2025, actually probably Lil Cam 70.
43:25
I would be he should change his number to 70.
43:27
That's beside the point. When he hit that field goal, I
43:29
went, oh, you just secured. If you didn't have it already,
43:33
you just secured the roster spot for sure.
43:35
There's no way they're going to let you go now anyway.
43:37
Joel, who do you have as your number one kicker?
43:39
I have Brandon Aubrey. I also have Brandon Aubrey.
43:44
Whatever ruined it for me, Avery.
43:46
I don't think anyone was surprised by that.
43:49
OK, well, it's not just because I'm a Cowboys fan, it's because
43:52
he's an actual weapon on its boat.
43:55
And, and there was no, there was no universe where that led to
43:58
any other answer. It's the best kicker and he's on
44:02
Dallas. That's my point.
44:03
That's right. There's no mystery.
44:05
About it, you're absolutely right.
44:06
Brandon Aubrey is a an actual fantasy football weapon.
44:11
In 2023 he was the number one kicker.
44:13
In 2024 he was the second highest scoring kicker, but he
44:17
made the most 50 plus yard field goals last year.
44:21
He is a weapon. He can win you a fantasy game.
44:25
All the Dallas offense has to do is get to the 50 yard line and
44:29
Brandon Aubrey can kick it through the uprights.
44:31
That's all they have to do. They don't even have to be good.
44:34
Even when the Cowboys were trash on offense last year, Brandon
44:37
Aubrey was a fantasy football weapon because all they had to
44:40
do was get to the 50 yard line. He's a weapon in my fantasies.
44:45
Big. Weapon.
44:48
Well, with the nickname Mike Burger, he's making sure it's
44:50
all nice and ready for you. Also, the nickname Bugger is
44:53
just so good. I love it.
44:56
All right, Joel, who do you have as your number 2 fantasy kicker?
44:59
I have. Chris Boswell from the
45:01
Pittsburgh Steelers as my #2 fantasy kicker.
45:03
Wow, you are home and real hard right now.
45:06
Who does in Pittsburgh? Who they're in the best.
45:11
Why is that, Joel? He was the number one kicker in
45:14
fantasy last year. He attempted the second most
45:17
field goals in the league and he probably will again this year
45:20
because I don't have confidence in that offense to be a
45:25
high-powered offense and he kicked the third most 50 plus
45:28
yard field goals last year so. Yeah, Avery #2.
45:32
I got Cameron Dicker. I don't even know what team
45:37
plays for, but I've got him. Oh, kept well, got him at
45:40
number. Two Chargers isn't he actually
45:43
didn't write kickers down, the positions down or the teams
45:46
down. I wrote the position down.
45:48
I didn't write the teams down. Well, I ranked him at #2 before
45:51
I saw the rankings, and then I saw that he was really good
45:54
anyways, So I'm like, oh, we'll shoot right, because he stays
45:57
there. But Dicker?
45:58
I got Dicker at #2 Cameron Dicker.
46:01
How about you will? Who's your number 2 fantasy
46:03
kicker this year? Oh, I've got Jake Bates.
46:06
I guess he's fine. Detroit's going to be good.
46:09
They're going to score a bit super.
46:11
Confident in that look. It's because we're talking about
46:13
kickers. We're wasting Americans and
46:16
maybe others valuable time talking about crazy.
46:20
Kickers. We just said that kickers
46:23
matter. Look, you think America watches
46:25
this? Here's the thing.
46:27
I think people in America watch it exclusively accidentally.
46:30
People from any other actually Joel is do you have family not
46:34
in America who watches this? He's probably got some Aussies
46:36
spying. Aussies in their.
46:37
VPN. VPN anyway, yeah, I got Jake
46:46
Bates, whatever, let's move on. Joe, who do you have #3?
46:50
#3 I have the dicker kicker. Yeah, I mean, not for.
46:54
Any particular reason aside from he attempted the third most
46:58
field goals last year with 42 and I just wanted to say dicker
47:01
kicker so. Avery, who do you have at #3?
47:04
I got Andy Borregales, the rookie.
47:09
On this list I was. Assuming he's going.
47:11
To put him on this list. You knew I was, or you were
47:14
going to. I knew you were happy.
47:16
I actually, I actually had a note here to ask you if he was
47:19
on your list before we started this.
47:21
And I forgot because I I just had a feeling you were going to
47:24
put him on the list. If you would ask me that, I
47:26
might have just switched it and said no, I'm like, shoot, I got
47:31
no. But I think I think Drake May is
47:35
going to do really well, but I don't think he'll do well
47:37
enough. And I think Boda Galas is going
47:39
to have to kick some little field goals for them.
47:43
So I think they're going to rack that up because I don't think,
47:46
for whatever reason, I think New England's going to have poor red
47:49
zone offense because that would be convenient for me since I
47:53
have Andy at 3 so he can kick those field goals.
47:56
All right, well, how about you? Who's your #3 fantasy kicker?
47:59
I have Jake Elliott. I I actually don't think the
48:03
Eagles offense is going to be as good as it was last year.
48:06
And so it's an open up more opportunities for field goals
48:08
and yadda, yadda, yadda, consistency.
48:11
Super Bowl champion. Enter all of the things kicker.
48:15
Why kick? Why kick a field goal when you
48:16
can do the tush push? Yeah, you're not wrong.
48:20
That's that's the end of it. You're just not wrong.
48:24
Yeah, I mean, it's also possible that they have even less field
48:27
goal attempts. They have a very starstrated
48:29
offense that should be able to score touchdown every time, but
48:34
if every drive you're getting minimum one point from your
48:37
extra point over and over and over again, that's still pretty
48:41
damn good all. Right number. 4 Joel, who do you
48:44
have #4 Right after I was doing the same.
48:47
I have Buccaneers kicker Chase McLaughlin.
48:51
He attempted the 4th most extra points last year and I know that
48:55
only gives you one point every time you make it, but when you
48:57
kick more extra points, you're going to get more fantasy points
49:01
and I think the Bugs offense is going to be better than it was
49:04
last year. And he ranked 6th last year in
49:07
fantasy points by one point. And so he was almost in the top
49:10
five last year. I think he's going to be in the
49:12
top five this year because that offense is going to be dynamic
49:16
in my opinion. In his entire career since 2019,
49:20
McLaughlin has only ever missed 1 field goal from inside 40
49:24
yards. That's pretty good.
49:26
That's pretty good. No, not not counting extra
49:28
points, but. He's missed extra points.
49:32
He has missed 4 total extra points in his career, two of
49:36
them coming last year. But you know, that's.
49:39
The Bucks will score two extra touchdowns this year, so he can
49:42
get those back. Or 12 point conversion?
49:49
Avery, who do you have a number for?
49:51
I got Matt Gay. Spit on my arm.
50:05
I spit on my computer. You have to leave this in.
50:16
Local professionals doesn't mean we can't have fun.
50:22
Washington kicker Mackay What's funny about that humor?
50:27
That's funny. You didn't even say, you just
50:32
said his name. I.
50:34
Think that's why no. Follow up at all?
50:39
I don't even, I don't even remember what team he plays for.
50:43
Washington. Oh yeah.
50:46
He didn't even want him on your list.
50:47
She just wanted to say his name. How?
50:50
Dare you excuse? Me of such.
50:53
Something like that. Hey, we're going to an in depth
50:59
analysis. Why is Matt Gay right where you
51:02
placed him? Oh.
51:08
He placed from. Washington and I think they're
51:10
we're going to kick a good field goals.
51:14
When Devo Samuel is your number one wide receiver, you just have
51:16
to kick. Yeah, he'll drop a lot of third
51:18
down conversions and Matt Gay will be there.
51:21
Unless he thinks it's a burger, then he might catch it.
51:24
Yeah, well. Cheeseburger spiral all.
51:28
Right. Well, how about you?
51:30
Here's your #4. I don't have Matt Gay,
51:33
unfortunately. I do have Cameron Dicker in
51:36
between Dicker in between Dicker and Gay.
51:38
But there's going to be a lot of field goals made this year
51:41
anyway. Joel, who do you have at #5?
51:42
This is where I have Cam Little and to be honest I did not have
51:46
him on my list until he made a 70 yard field goal in the
51:49
preseason. But similar to similar to
51:53
Brandon Aubrey, all the Jaguars have to do is make it to like
51:57
the 40 yard line and they can score points.
51:59
So the Jaguars offense does not have to be any good at all.
52:04
All they have to do is just make it to the 40 and now that they
52:06
know that he can make that, they're probably going to take
52:11
some chances in games and kick it from the 40 yard line a lot
52:15
more often. You think they're going to do
52:17
that? In certain situations I can see
52:19
it. No, I think they can kick it.
52:21
Past No, no not. Once.
52:24
I don't think they're going to do it like like every time, but
52:27
you know, there's going to be situations where you know,
52:29
they're coming up on the half and they have like 20 seconds
52:32
left and they're on their 2 yard line and all you got to do is
52:36
just make it to the 40. You don't have to make it to the
52:38
other side of the field, you just have to make it to the 40
52:42
yard line. And so I think there's going to
52:44
be a lot of situations like that where they could be like, hey,
52:47
we made it through the 40. We might as well just put him
52:48
out there and just let him kick a 70 yarder and see if he makes
52:50
it. But they're going to have to
52:51
change their field goal team because at times he's going to
52:55
miss that and they're in your run back It it's that the risk
52:59
is really high as you think it. Is it is.
53:02
But it's going to get blocked a lot.
53:03
It's going to be have to be a line, more of a line drive.
53:06
When you're the Jaguars, you really have nothing to lose by
53:09
doing that. True, because you already are
53:12
terrible. Yeah, take the risk, do it so.
53:14
Then so then the real trouble is just getting to the 40.
53:17
True exactly. And then not being the Alabama
53:21
Clemson Tide, another thing, a 99 1/2, well, only a 109 1/2
53:26
yard kick 6 happened. You remember that?
53:29
I mean, Auburn ran it back to win the game.
53:31
I watched that probably at least once a year.
53:34
Yeah, same on what they use it. ESPN and all the these companies
53:38
use it as like as like a intro clip.
53:42
It's used all the time. Good times all.
53:46
Right. Well, who do you have as your
53:47
number 5 kicker this year? I have Marcus Aurelius from
53:51
Indianapolis. The Gladiator.
53:53
Yeah. Yeah, you got it.
53:54
OK, great. See, that was the point I was
53:56
trying to make, is that nobody knows any kickers.
53:58
I can name anybody I want from history and don't have any idea.
54:01
He is a former former Roman emperor.
54:05
No, he's not a kicker at all. I had Chase McLaughlin from
54:08
Tampa Bay. I did not.
54:11
I did not pick an obscure enough historical reference.
54:17
That was good. That was good.
54:18
I have. Jesus Christ, it's a little
54:23
Easter egg. No, I was, I was, I was seeing
54:28
if either of you guys were going to get it.
54:30
But yeah, no, I I assumed, OK, if you've seen Gladiator, you're
54:32
going to get that. But and who I've seen I.
54:35
Was like, I was like, I was going to say, I was like, I've
54:38
never. Like his.
54:39
His mother must have loved that movie.
54:42
It's a wild thing. Name your child today.
54:45
All right, that wraps up our top ten.
54:47
I see tight ends. Whoa, what?
54:49
I didn't even go. Did you not?
54:52
No, mine was at Marcus Aurelius. Oh, I thought you did.
54:56
Sorry. I had.
54:59
Our top 10 from. That movie.
55:00
Oh no, I had a Harrison Bucker. I just, I think he looks, he
55:04
seems like a chill dude. I like the way he talks.
55:07
And on a real note, I think he's got great hair.
55:10
I think his hair is beard. Dudes rocking it.
55:15
Absolutely rocking it. And Taylor Swift knows his name,
55:18
so pretty cool. He's.
55:28
Spreading family values around the team, I think that's
55:30
important. All right, well that wraps up
55:33
our top 10 fantasy tight ends for this season as well as our
55:37
top five kickers and our top five defenses.
55:40
I actually want to end with just one question for you guys.
55:43
And this has something to do with what we talked about last
55:45
week. It it has to do with what Will
55:48
asked with the preseason and how players perform in pre season.
55:52
And I didn't bring this up last week because I wanted to wait
55:55
and see how this player performed and their first pre
55:57
season game. So shooter Sanders had a pretty
56:01
good pre season performance in his start and I want to know, do
56:07
you guys make anything of that at all?
56:09
Like, do you think that Shudder Sanders performance in preseason
56:12
means anything? No.
56:14
I think he secures his spot above Deshaun Watson on the
56:18
depth chart. OK, I, I was just wondering
56:20
because I actually think it means a little bit of something
56:23
because you know, I know that we kind of decided what we didn't
56:27
kind of, we did decide last week that, you know, the pre season
56:30
performances don't necessarily mean anything.
56:32
However, in the case of somebody like Shader Sanders, I think it
56:37
means something for him personally.
56:39
Not not to say like that he's going to be a great quarterback
56:44
in the NFL or anything, but I think it meant something for
56:47
Shader Sanders because he's been stuck as the number 4
56:50
quarterback this whole off season.
56:53
He hasn't received one single first team Rep and he finally
56:56
gets his chance to start in the pre season and he performs very
56:59
well. I think that that means
57:02
something to shooter Sanders. And so, you know, if he
57:05
continues to get well, I think I think if he continues to get
57:10
opportunities like that and he makes the most of that
57:11
opportunity, that could move him up the depth chart because, you
57:15
know, you've got Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel who are
57:18
injured right now, who can't, you know, who aren't getting
57:22
those reps. And so maybe Shoulder Sanders
57:26
can move his way up the depth chart because of that
57:28
performance. So I think it means a little bit
57:30
of something. Again, not to say that he's
57:32
going to be a fantastic quarterback in the NFL, but in
57:35
the opportunity he was given, he performed well.
57:39
Well, what also means, sorry, we cut you off, but what it also
57:42
means is that other teams, like they can be looking at him for
57:45
trade value or we can bring him in as our backup.
57:48
He's their number 4, but we can bring him in as our number 2 or
57:51
our number 3. And and chances are, can you
57:55
pick? It probably goes to the practice
57:56
qualified, yes, because they're not going to carry 4
57:58
quarterbacks in the end of the season.
58:00
And so I would imagine can you pick it gets put to the practice
58:04
score of the ball, four of them or maybe one of the KP gets cut.
58:07
I don't think you draft your door and Dylan Gabriel just to
58:10
cut one of them before the season starts unless you're
58:12
drafting in the seventh round, right?
58:14
It was 3 and 5, right? Yeah, three.
58:16
Yeah, three and five. And so you're, you're doing your
58:19
best to either move them to a team they're going to be on or
58:22
to keep them on your team. And so I do think it, it helps,
58:27
it helps his stock on the team. It, it hopefully helps, turns,
58:31
turns people's minds toward, OK, maybe he is taking this
58:34
seriously. Maybe he isn't just riding his
58:37
dad's coattails, too. Yeah, I agree with Will.
58:40
I think we talked about this before, but I think we were
58:42
talking about Cleveland kind of shopping him around, kind of
58:46
showing him off. I mean, I guess it is, I mean a
58:50
fortune or I mean, if you got 2 with the quarterbacks already
58:53
hurt, you know, before the pre season even starts, I mean
58:56
that's a good sign for you. But also, I mean, if the Browns
58:59
can kind of figure out who they want or if they have the ability
59:03
to kind of evaluate all their quarterbacks before they play,
59:08
meaning, like, do you have a good idea who you think will do
59:10
the best? Or is it purely just throw them
59:13
in on Sunday and find out who does the best and then just kind
59:16
of settle with that? Because I think they're in a
59:19
weird position where they have some quarterbacks that they can
59:21
wheel and deal, you know, as far as a trade goes.
59:24
But this just seems like, I mean, I think the writing was on
59:28
the wall. I think he was going to start,
59:30
yet the other guys injured, everyone wants to see him.
59:32
There's still that buzz around him even though he's a fifth
59:35
pick. So who knows if I think if if
59:37
you're the Browns, I think you still keep him though.
59:40
I like to believe that just the buzz generation creates revenue
59:44
for the Browns anyways, and that's a good thing.
59:47
So that all depends on what their priorities are.
59:51
Yeah, I just wanted to bring that up because we talked about
59:54
how the preseason games don't matter and how players perform
59:57
don't matter. But for shooter Sanders, like he
1:00:00
didn't really have a choice but to perform well.
1:00:03
Like if he went into the game and started and didn't perform
1:00:06
well, there's no way he's moving up that deck chart.
1:00:10
Correct. So I just wanted to to get your
1:00:12
guys's opinion on that 'cause you know that there's, I think
1:00:15
there's a little something to be said for a guy who's in that
1:00:17
situation where he has that pressure on him.
1:00:20
He hasn't received a first team Rep.
1:00:22
You know, he was drafted in the fifth round after he was
1:00:24
expected to go like #2 overall, and then he gets in the game and
1:00:28
he does well, so good. Good for him, honestly.
1:00:31
Yeah, no, I, I agree with that. I, I want him to do well
1:00:35
overall. I I want him to be what he
1:00:40
thinks he can be because that would be great for the league.
1:00:43
If he turns out to be some amazing, awesome Mr. cool guy,
1:00:47
that's better for everyone. That's better for the league.
1:00:51
It's better for him. It's better for because he's
1:00:53
such a big name even before that, because it's it's cool to
1:00:56
have to have the family ties, right, to have, Oh, his dad is a
1:01:00
really good player now he's a really good player.
1:01:03
Like it'll be the same thing with Archie Manning, right?
1:01:05
Like, like the problem with him is that his whole career it's
1:01:09
going to be here's what Uncle Peyton did, here's what Uncle
1:01:11
Eli did and here's what wow. And they're friends move.
1:01:15
Yeah. Yeah.
1:01:17
Well, I'm not sure comparing your uncle, you and I, right.
1:01:19
And you have to win half your games, right?
1:01:20
Is whatever. So.
1:01:24
We love nepotism in sports a little bit, mainly because it's
1:01:27
still, it's still meritocracy. I mean, unless you're brawny, I
1:01:30
guess. But for the most part, like if
1:01:32
you make it to the league, like you earned it and it's cool,
1:01:35
say, oh, your dad was there. And just because your dad was an
1:01:37
NFL player does not mean that you're going to be an NFL
1:01:41
player. Like so when it does happen,
1:01:43
it's always kind of cool. All right.
1:01:47
Well, that's going to wrap it up for our episode today, but
1:01:50
coming up on the next few episodes.
1:01:51
So next week we've we've got our bears fan from Bear Den live on
1:01:56
the show. So we're going to talk about the
1:01:58
bears. We also have a undecided topic
1:02:02
that we're going to talk about. That's this.
1:02:04
Guy that called me out already, is it the same guy?
1:02:08
No, that is not the same guy, no.
1:02:11
We need to have a fight before. We need to eventually have
1:02:14
Brennan on the show from cheese heads and the bear podcast and
1:02:17
you guys can you guys can fight about Caleb Williams.
1:02:20
I. Am willing to spend all week
1:02:23
this week between today and next Monday when we record again.
1:02:27
So Tuesday through Friday all my 8 hours a day at work just
1:02:33
researching about why I need to hate the bears even more.
1:02:37
So here we go. Wait, what's his name?
1:02:39
Brennan. No that he's from a different
1:02:42
podcast, but he's also a Bears fan.
1:02:45
But his name is Brennan. Yeah, like Colt Brennan.
1:02:48
Does he ask you to call him dragon?
1:02:54
Whatever Teak cut, it's from Step brothers.
1:03:00
It's a lot worse. I I didn't get that. 1 I
1:03:03
actually. I I got that.
1:03:05
Neither of you got that. Thank you for clarifying.
1:03:07
Yeah, I didn't get that one at all.
1:03:10
Some. Viewers that will appreciate
1:03:12
that and I, I hope you comment in the chat to show support for
1:03:16
me. That awkward punch line.
1:03:22
No one's going to get to this point.
1:03:24
This is the very end, just left 10 minutes ago.
1:03:28
Anyways, on some upcoming episodes we're going to talk
1:03:31
about our predictions for division winners, our playoff
1:03:34
predictions, and our award winner predictions for the
1:03:38
upcoming season. We are getting there.
1:03:40
We're close. So we're almost to the start of
1:03:43
the regular season. So yeah, three weeks.
1:03:46
Yep, we're almost there. All right.
1:03:49
But that's all we have time for today.
1:03:51
We'll be back next week with Baird and live talk about the
1:03:54
Chicago Bears. And as always, don't forget to
1:03:57
keep your balls played with. We'll see you next time.
1:04:01
Also, Mark Davis's haircut still sucks.