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Murder In Moscow: Trial Expert Bryan Edelman And The Affidavit In Support Of Kohberger (Part 4-6) (8/7/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
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  Speaker 1: this episode, we're picking up where we left off with
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  Speaker 1: the declaration of Brian Edelman. During a December thirtieth, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two press conference, which was live streamed on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: Chief of Police James Frye and Lethagh County Prosecutor Bill
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  Speaker 1: Thompson announced that Brian Colberger had been arrested, although a
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  Speaker 1: few details were released. Mister Thompson pointed the media to
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  Speaker 1: the probable cause AFFI David, which would be released after
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  Speaker 1: Colberger's extradition from Pennsylvania, with the court issuing a gag
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  Speaker 1: order in an attempt to protect the defendant's due process rights.
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  Speaker 1: The media drew heavily from this document and widely reporting
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  Speaker 1: on purported evidence connecting Brian Colberger to the murders e g.
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  Speaker 1: DNA cell tower data. These details were widely disseminated and
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  Speaker 1: discussed by the media for sixteen months without any debate
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  Speaker 1: over their veracity. Only during an April twenty fourth hearing
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  Speaker 1: regarding the defense change of venue survey did mister Thompson
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  Speaker 1: state and open court that many of these representations which
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  Speaker 1: were tested in the survey were false or may not
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  Speaker 1: be offered at trial. Despite the court's best efforts to
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  Speaker 1: stem the flow of prejudicial information to the public, Leyta
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  Speaker 1: County residents have been saturated with a deluge of details
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  Speaker 1: pulled from the Affid David, warrants and other documents that
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  Speaker 1: were not filed under seal. Much of this coverage has
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  Speaker 1: the potential to undermine the presumption of innocence and shift
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  Speaker 1: the burden of proof onto the defendant. The media detailed
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  Speaker 1: evidence allegedly linking Colburger to the murders, including cell tower
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  Speaker 1: data tracking his movements, video footage of the purported killer's
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  Speaker 1: car near the victim's home, an alleged DNA match with
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  Speaker 1: more than ninety nine percent likelihood of connecting Colburger to
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene, evidence confiscated from Coburger's home and car,
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  Speaker 1: and eyewitness accounts from one of the victim's roommates. Examples
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  Speaker 1: of this type of prejudicial coverage include police alleged and
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  Speaker 1: probable cause affid David that he made at least fourteen
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  Speaker 1: visits to the cell tower coverage area for the King
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  Speaker 1: Road House, including twice on the day of the student's death.
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  Speaker 1: Cell Phone data was a key part of the evidence
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  Speaker 1: that led to Colburger's arrest in December of twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: Malre created visuals displaying cell phone data. During the grand jury,
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  Speaker 1: investigators were able to trace the movement of the phone,
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  Speaker 1: heading through Genese, Idaho, Uniontown, Idaho, and back to Pullman.
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  Speaker 1: The estimated locations were consistent with that of the white Alantra.
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  Speaker 1: According to those cell tower records between Pullman and Moscow,
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  Speaker 1: a phone registered to Colburger stopped reporting to the network
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  Speaker 1: or was disabled on the night of the killings between
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  Speaker 1: two forty seven and four forty eight AM, consistent with
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  Speaker 1: Colberger attempting to conceal his location during the quadruple homicide,
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  Speaker 1: the Affidavid said. The cell phone data shows that Colberger's
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  Speaker 1: phone was recorded at two forty seven AM in an
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  Speaker 1: area that provides coverage southeast of Coburger's Pullman residence, the
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  Speaker 1: Affidavid said, suggesting that he had been on the move.
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  Speaker 1: The phone does not begin to show up in the
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  Speaker 1: network again until four forty eight when it's reported in
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  Speaker 1: an area along US Highway ninety five south of Moscow.
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  Speaker 1: Between four fifty and five twenty six am, the phone
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  Speaker 1: is recorded traveling on US ninety five to Genie, Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: then traveling west into Washington towards unknown, and then ultimately
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  Speaker 1: back to Pullman at five thirty am. The phone is
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  Speaker 1: recorded in an area consistent with Coburger's residence. In the
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  Speaker 1: weeks and months before the killing, cell tower data recorded
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  Speaker 1: that Coburger made at least a dozen trips near the
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  Speaker 1: King Road residents since his cell phone account was opened
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  Speaker 1: in June. According to court records, all of the trips
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  Speaker 1: were late in the evening or early morning, except for
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  Speaker 1: one the affid David said. According to the probable Cause Affidavid,
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  Speaker 1: local police used surveillance footage of the Elantra and cell
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  Speaker 1: phone data to track his alleged movements before and after
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  Speaker 1: the November thirteenth murders. Detailed tracking of Coburger's cell phone
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  Speaker 1: and extensive security video of a car investigators believe is his.
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  Speaker 1: The data did a leg leg show him taking a
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  Speaker 1: route to and from Moscow consistent with the white Lantra
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  Speaker 1: police saw on video footage. Cell phone data shows him
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  Speaker 1: and Moscow near the King Road residence on at least
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  Speaker 1: twelve occasions between June and November thirteenth. Almost all of
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  Speaker 1: those occasions occurred in the late evening and the early
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  Speaker 1: morning hours. Investigators were able to identify that the eight
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  Speaker 1: to four or five to eight phone was receiving signal
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  Speaker 1: from nearby cell towers near King Road at least twelve
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  Speaker 1: times before November thirteenth, usually late night or early morning hours.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators calmed through hours of security video from multiple cameras
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  Speaker 1: and concluded that the killer likely had been driving a
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  Speaker 1: white Hondai a Laantra manufactured between twenty eleven and twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: Based on an FBI expert's viewing of the camera footage.
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  Speaker 1: He found the twenty fifteen a Laantra registered to Coburger.
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  Speaker 1: He owned and drove a white twenty fifteen Hondi Alantra sedan.
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  Speaker 1: Found the Elantra that day park near Coburger's apartment. He
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  Speaker 1: ran the plates and provided the inn information to detectives
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  Speaker 1: investigating the U of I killings. The Elantra was recorded
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  Speaker 1: numerous times on security cameras in the neighborhood where the
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  Speaker 1: killings occurred, from three twenty nine am to four twenty
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  Speaker 1: am on the morning of the attacks. According to court documents.
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  Speaker 1: The last time the Alantra was recorded in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Police said the camera captured it traveling at a high
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  Speaker 1: rate of speed. A review of security footage found in
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  Speaker 1: Pullman showed a car that appears to be a white
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  Speaker 1: Alauntra leaving Pullman and heading towards Moscow at two fifty
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  Speaker 1: three that morning. Cameras also picked up a car appearing
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  Speaker 1: to be a white Aluntra at five different locations in Pullman,
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  Speaker 1: including on WSU's campus around five twenty five am. Court
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  Speaker 1: records say. CNN also reported that Colberger drove to his
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  Speaker 1: parents home in Pennsylvania from Pullman in a white Honda Alantra.
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  Speaker 1: For weeks, investigators have been urging the public to send
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  Speaker 1: in any tips on a twenty eleven twenty thirteen white
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  Speaker 1: Hondai A Lantra they believe was at the crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: Around the time of the November thirteenth murders, a vehicle
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  Speaker 1: later identified as a white Hondai A Lantra was seen
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  Speaker 1: driving by the apartment more than three times. Investigators were
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  Speaker 1: given access to video footage from WSU that shows a
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  Speaker 1: white vehicle leaving from Moscow and later returning a couple
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  Speaker 1: hours later. On November twenty fifth, WSU police officer Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Tiango found a white Alantra at the university that was
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  Speaker 1: registered to Coburger. Later that same day, the vehicle was
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  Speaker 1: found at an apartment that houses WSU students, where Coburger resided.
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  Speaker 1: The Lantra was seized when Pennsylvania State Police arrested Coburger
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  Speaker 1: at his parents' home in the early morning hours of Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Police believe such a car was at the scene of
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  Speaker 1: the crime. Around the time of the November thirteenth murders,
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  Speaker 1: Investigators at a white Hondai Lantra made between twenty eleven
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  Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen was seen on surveillance footage before and
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  Speaker 1: after the homicides near where the students were killed at
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  Speaker 1: eleven twenty two King Road. Coburger and his father were
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  Speaker 1: pulled over along eastbound Interstate seventy on December thirteenth, as
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  Speaker 1: a road tripped more than twenty five hundred miles from Pullman,
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  Speaker 1: Washington to eastern Pennsylvania driving his white twenty fifteen Hondai
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  Speaker 1: A Lantra. When Indiana Police officers working independently made the
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  Speaker 1: two highway stops within ten minutes just east of Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 1: The heavily scrutinized stops. The Brian Colberger. A month after
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  Speaker 1: the November slangs were instead routine interstate drug trafficking prevention
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  Speaker 1: operations by two different Indiana police departments. Law enforcement officials
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  Speaker 1: in the state told the Idaho Statesman a leather sheath
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  Speaker 1: for a combat style knife was located next to Mogan's body.
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  Speaker 1: The Affidavid Red police found a tan leather knife sheath
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  Speaker 1: lying on the bed next to Mogan's right side. The
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  Speaker 1: sheath had k BAR USMC and the United States Marine
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  Speaker 1: Corps Eagle Globe and Anchor insignia stamped on its outside.
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  Speaker 1: The DNA on the knife sheath was key evidence that
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  Speaker 1: led to Coburger's arrest in December. According to judge's order,
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  Speaker 1: investigative genetic genealogy was used to construct a family tree
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  Speaker 1: of people whose DNA matched with the DNA found on
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  Speaker 1: the knife sheath left at the King Road house. DNA
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  Speaker 1: was found on a leather knife sheath found next to
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  Speaker 1: Madison Mogan's body. The knife was stamped with K BAR
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  Speaker 1: and the United States Marine Corp insignia. The knife sheath
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  Speaker 1: was sent to the Idaho State Lab, where an isolated
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  Speaker 1: mail DNA sample was retrieved. Officers in Pennsylvania recovered trash
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  Speaker 1: from Coburger's family residence on December twenty seventh, through which
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  Speaker 1: the ISL was able to make a DNA profile. The
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  Speaker 1: DNA showed a ninety nine percent match, showing the DNA
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  Speaker 1: from the family home was likely the father of the suspect.
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  Speaker 1: The Idaho State Lab later found a single source of
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  Speaker 1: mal DNA on the button snap of the knife sheath.
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  Speaker 1: Police believe this is Coburger's DNA after comparing it to
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  Speaker 1: DNA evidence police obtained from the trash at Coburger's parents'
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  Speaker 1: house two days before he was arrested. Local police found
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  Speaker 1: the knife sheep at the King Rode home. At the
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  Speaker 1: Moscow house where the victims were found stabbed to death
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  Speaker 1: on November thirteenth, a single source of mal DNA that
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  Speaker 1: police believe belongs to Coburger was found on the sheath.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators found DNA that they believe belongs to a man
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  Speaker 1: accused of stabbing for University of Idaho students to death
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  Speaker 1: at the home where the killings took place. DNA was
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  Speaker 1: found on the snap button of a tan leather knife
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  Speaker 1: sheath left on the bed where the bodies of Madison
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  Speaker 1: Mogan and Kaylee Gonsalves were discovered. The DNA found in
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  Speaker 1: the Coburger's trash matches more than a ninety nine point
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  Speaker 1: nine to nine percent likelihood to the father of the
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  Speaker 1: person whose DNA was found on the knife sheaths. DNA
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  Speaker 1: was found on the snap button of a tan leather
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  Speaker 1: knife sheath left on the bed where the bodies of
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  Speaker 1: Mogan and Gonsolvas were discovered. According to court records, police
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  Speaker 1: believed the genetic materials links Coburger, a former Washington State
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  Speaker 1: University Criminal Justice graduate student, to the killings based on
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  Speaker 1: another DNA sample obtained from his family's trash in Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 1: on December twenty seventh. The DNA was then matched to
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  Speaker 1: him through a cheek swab taken when he was in custody.
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  Speaker 1: Court records say police used a search warrant to collect
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  Speaker 1: a bugle swab from Coburger, and the DNA comparison showed
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  Speaker 1: a statistical match. The DNA evidence came from a kbar
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  Speaker 1: knife sheath that was found on a bed next to
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  Speaker 1: the bodies of Mogan and Gonsalves in their King Road
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  Speaker 1: home near the UI campus. The sheath was faced down
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  Speaker 1: and partially under both Mogan's body and the comforter on
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  Speaker 1: the bed that did not match any DNA from the
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  Speaker 1: convicted offenders, arrestees, or other crime scenes. It typically involves
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  Speaker 1: sending the DNA sample to a genetic genealogy service like
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  Speaker 1: ancestry dot Com or twenty three and meters. Police who
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  Speaker 1: use these services can build a family tree to narrow
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  Speaker 1: down a potential suspect based on age, gender, opportunity, and
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  Speaker 1: known physical characteristics. This led police to recover trash from
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  Speaker 1: the home of Brian Colberger's parents and compare DNA from
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  Speaker 1: that with a kbar knife sheath. That comparison indicated that
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  Speaker 1: the DNA found on the trash belonged to the biological
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  Speaker 1: father of the individual who left the on the k
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  Speaker 1: bar knife. The core document says, all right, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: wrap up this episode here and in the next episode,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna pick up where we left off, and that's
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  Speaker 1: with a roommate detailed seeing an individual dressed in black
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  Speaker 1: the night for University of Idaho students were killed. All
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  Speaker 1: of the information that goes with this episode can be
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  Speaker 1: found in the description box. What's up everyone, and Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the program. In this episode, We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: right back to the declaration given by Brian Edelman in
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  Speaker 1: support of Brian Kolberger. A roommate detailed seeing an individual
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  Speaker 1: dressed in black the night for University of Idaho students
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  Speaker 1: were killed peeking out from her door. DM did not
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  Speaker 1: see anyone at the time. She later heard crying coming
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  Speaker 1: from Xana's room, and DM said that they heard a
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  Speaker 1: male voice saying it's okay, I'm going to help you.
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  Speaker 1: DM allegedly looked out their door again, spotting an individual
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  Speaker 1: dressed in black. DM stated that the individual walked towards them,
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  Speaker 1: passing to head toward towards the sliding glass door on
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  Speaker 1: the back of the residence. The person was described as
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  Speaker 1: wearing a mask that hid their mouth and nose, but
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  Speaker 1: left their eyes visible. The individual also had bushy eyebrows
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  Speaker 1: and appeared to be a man around the height of
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  Speaker 1: five feet eleven inches or taller. The roommate stated that
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  Speaker 1: when she opened her door again, she heard crying and
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  Speaker 1: saw a figure clad in black clothing and a mask
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  Speaker 1: that covered the person's mouth and nose walking towards her.
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  Speaker 1: She described them as at least five foot ten inches,
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  Speaker 1: not muscular but athletically built and with bushy eyebrows. The
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  Speaker 1: mail walked past her as she stood in a frozen
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  Speaker 1: shock face. The mail made his way toward the sliding
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  Speaker 1: glass door, and the roommate locked herself in her room.
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  Speaker 1: She stated she did not recognize him. The warrant details
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  Speaker 1: the seizure of nine separate items, which included clothing belonging
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  Speaker 1: to Colburger, a flashlight, four medical style gloves, and a
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  Speaker 1: cheek swab from Colburger himself. The list of items sees
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  Speaker 1: during the search include one silver Defiant flashlight, four medical
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  Speaker 1: style gloves, a T shirt, a Washington State University sweatshirt,
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  Speaker 1: a pair of size thirteen Nike shoes, socks, shorts, and boxers.
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  Speaker 1: Police also took a DNA swab from his cheek. That
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  Speaker 1: evidence includes one nitral type black glove, multiple hair strands,
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  Speaker 1: including one possibly from an animal, receipts from wal Mart
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  Speaker 1: and Marshalls, a dust container from a vacuum, a computer tower,
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  Speaker 1: a dark red spot, two cuttings from an uncased pillow
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  Speaker 1: showing a reddish brown stain, and two mattress covers with
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  Speaker 1: multiple stains seized from Coburger's car were sixty three separate items.
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  Speaker 1: Notable items include a knife of unknown type, a pocket knife,
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  Speaker 1: a forty glock with three empty magazines, and several articles
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  Speaker 1: of black clothing, including a black mask. Among the items
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  Speaker 1: recovered by police were three knives, including one described as
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  Speaker 1: a Smith and Wesson pocket knife and another listed as
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  Speaker 1: a tailor cutglery knife with a leather sheath. Knives and
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  Speaker 1: a handgun, and multiple articles of black clothing, including a mask,
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  Speaker 1: were sees from Brian Colberger's Pennsylvania home. Authorities collected a
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  Speaker 1: disposable black love hair strands and a pillow with a
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  Speaker 1: reddish brown stain, among other items, during a search of
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  Speaker 1: a Washington State University apartment rented by a man accused
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  Speaker 1: of killing four University of Idaho students. Initial analysis showed
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  Speaker 1: blood on two items that police sees during their search
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  Speaker 1: of Moscow homicide suspect Brian Colberger's Washington State University housing
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  Speaker 1: documents the university released Thursday revealed testing of fifty items
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  Speaker 1: found in coburger, a student's department in Pullman came back
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  Speaker 1: with at least trace amounts of blood on brown or
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  Speaker 1: reddish stained betting, according to an inventory list obtained by
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  Speaker 1: The Idaho Statesman through a public records request. A mattress
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  Speaker 1: cover and un case pillows were each positive for blood.
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  Speaker 1: The coverage also focused on Brian Colberger's alibi, which was
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  Speaker 1: called into question in the coverage. On August fourth, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, it was reported that Coburger claimed to be
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  Speaker 1: on a late drive around the time of the murders.
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  Speaker 1: According to the publicity, he had a habit of going
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  Speaker 1: for drives alone, but had not yet developed any evidence
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  Speaker 1: to support his alibi. The media often drew on comments
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  Speaker 1: in the prosecution's filings attacking the alibi, which was described
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  Speaker 1: as vague and lacking supporting evidence. The criticism was left
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  Speaker 1: uncontested until April seventeenth, twenty twenty four. Examples of this
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  Speaker 1: type of reporting include Coburger has not yet provided an alibi.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Colberger's attorney claims the murder suspect was out driving
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  Speaker 1: the morning four University of Idaho students were murdered. As
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  Speaker 1: of now, Coberger's only alibi is that he was driving
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  Speaker 1: alone in the evening hours of November twelfth and the
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  Speaker 1: early morning hours of November thirteenth. Coburger often took nighttime
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  Speaker 1: drives to hiking destinations around the police Taylor claims Coburger
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  Speaker 1: was driving throughout the area south of Pullman and west
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  Speaker 1: of Moscow. The man accused of killing four University of
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  Speaker 1: Idaho students last fall said he was out driving alone
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  Speaker 1: the night of the attacks. Mister Colberger had a long
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  Speaker 1: habit of going for drives alone, The objection reads often
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  Speaker 1: he would go for drives at night. He did so
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  Speaker 1: late on November twelfth and into November thirteenth, twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: Coleburger is not claiming to be at any specific location
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  Speaker 1: at an exact time. The defense wrote, there is not
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  Speaker 1: a specific witness to say precisely where he was at
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  Speaker 1: each moment that night. Brian Colberger admits he went on
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  Speaker 1: a late night drive alone around the time of the
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  Speaker 1: November thirteenth quadruple murders in Moscow, but he anticipates witnesses
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  Speaker 1: will corroborate he was not at the King Roade crime
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  Speaker 1: scene that night. Taylor confirmed that Coburger was out driving
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  Speaker 1: late November twelfth into November thirteenth. The four u OFI
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  Speaker 1: students were murdered during the early hours of November thirteenth
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  Speaker 1: in a home on King Road. Taylor wrote that Colberger
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  Speaker 1: has long had a habit of going for drives alone.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Colberger is not claiming to be at a specific
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  Speaker 1: location at a specific time. At this time, there is
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  Speaker 1: not a specific big witness to say precisely where mister
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  Speaker 1: Coburger was at each moment of the hours between late
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  Speaker 1: night November twelfth, twenty twenty two, and early morning November thirteenth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. The documents claimed that Coburger was an
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  Speaker 1: avid hiker and runner that would often go on drives
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  Speaker 1: during the nighttime. Coberger's alibi is that he was driving
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  Speaker 1: around the night of the murders, and Taylor said she
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  Speaker 1: expects this will be supported by expert testimony. Taylor said
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  Speaker 1: that she's also waiting on cell phone tower information to
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  Speaker 1: support his alibi. Taylor claimed that cell phone data showed
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  Speaker 1: Coburger was driving the mourning for University of Idaho students
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  Speaker 1: were murdered in November of twenty twenty two, but he
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  Speaker 1: was not near the Moscow crime scene. The defense plans
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  Speaker 1: to offer testimony from sire, an expert who can explain
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  Speaker 1: how Coberger's mobile device shows his vehicle did not travel
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  Speaker 1: to Moscow on November thirteenth, twenty twenty two. Coberger's defense
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  Speaker 1: intends to offer the testimony of Siree an expert cell
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  Speaker 1: tower information to show that he was south of Pullman
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  Speaker 1: and west of Moscow, and that Coburger did not travel
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  Speaker 1: east on the Moscow Pullman Highway in the early morning
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  Speaker 1: hours of November thirteenth. Data from Coburger's phone includes photographs
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  Speaker 1: taken of himself in the countryside late at night and
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  Speaker 1: in the early morning on different occasions. Prosecutors in the
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  Speaker 1: Brian Colberger case, the man accused of killing four University
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  Speaker 1: of Idaho students in November of twenty twenty two, said
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  Speaker 1: that his alibi of being around thirty miles from the
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  Speaker 1: crime scene at the time of the murders is too vague.
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  Speaker 1: According to court document, the prosecutors stated that Coberger's alibi
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  Speaker 1: lacks specificity in terms of describing a place or places
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  Speaker 1: at which the defendant claimed to have been at the
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  Speaker 1: time of the murders, and names and addresses of witnesses
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  Speaker 1: upon whom he intends to rely his alibi on. The
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: prosecution said that except for the reference to the Wawei Park,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the alibi does not add any new information to the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: original alibi notice. The prosecution also reference the use of
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  Speaker 1: Coburger's cell phone information does not rise to the level
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  Speaker 1: of an alibi at the time of the homicides because
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  Speaker 1: Coburger's cell phone stopped reporting to the cellular network before
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  Speaker 1: the homicides and continued to not report until after the homicides.
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  Speaker 1: The prosecution is requesting the court to deny all further
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  Speaker 1: opportunities to add any purported claim of alibi and preclue
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: testimony by anyone other than the defendant. The prosecutor in
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the Brian Coburger case says the murder suspects alibi is
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: not specific enough to serve as a proper alibi defense.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Leta County Prosecutor, Bill Thompson argued in a motion filed
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  Speaker 1: Friday that Idaho code requires an alibi defense to state
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a specific place or places at which the defendant claims
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  Speaker 1: to have been during the murders. Thompson said this new
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  Speaker 1: alibi defense adds little to what the prosecution already knows
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  Speaker 1: from the investigation. The defendant is offering nothing new to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: his initial alibi that he was simply driving around during
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the morning hours. Thompson also pointed out that Coburger's cell
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  Speaker 1: phone stopped reporting to the cellular network before the homicides happened,
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  Speaker 1: and continued to not report until after the homicides. The
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  Speaker 1: location of the defendant cell phone at times other than
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  Speaker 1: the time of the homicides is not proof of or
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: relevant to the defendant specific location at the time of
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  Speaker 1: the homicides. Thompson is asking leta County District Judge, John Judge,
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  Speaker 1: to deny Coburger more opportunity to add to his alibi.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: He also asked Judge to prohibit anyone other than Coburger
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to testify about this alibi. In Grid Beaty, the Idaho
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Deputy Attorney General who was assisting the prosecution, said she's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: confused about how cell tower data can support his alibi defense.
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  Speaker 1: The Leasta County community has come together in support of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the victims and their families. For example, there were several
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: candlelight vigils and a memorial created to remember the victims.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The home where the murders occurred was donated to the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: university and later demolished. Multiple groups were created on social
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: media and thousands of posts appeared with the hashtag vandal Strong.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Members of the victims' families used the media as an
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: outlet to remember their lost loved ones and voice their
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: frustrations as the case moved through the court system. Examples
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of this type of reporting include the UI held the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: candlelight vigil November thirtieth in the Kibbi Dome to honor
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  Speaker 1: Chapin Kernodle, Mogan and Gonsalves. With a number of students
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to have left campus early, UI has postponed a candlelight
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: vigil that had been planned for Wednesday night to November thirtieth.
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  Speaker 1: They designed the stickers themselves and got help from Allegra
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Image three sixty with printing three thousand copies. The stickers
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  Speaker 1: will be handed out during a candlelight vigil scheduled at
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: five pm today at the as UI Kibbi Activity Center
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: on the UI campus in Moscow. The vigil will be
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: held simultaneously at five pm Pacific Standard time across the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: University of Idaho Moscow, Boise, and Idaho Falls campuses, as
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: well as in Orde Lane and McCall. Those who cannot
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  Speaker 1: make the vigil in person are encouraged to light a
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  Speaker 1: candle or hold a moment of silence during that time.
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  Speaker 1: Their lives were changed forever three hundred and sixty five
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  Speaker 1: days ago, but the students who spoke at the candlelight
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: vigil Monday night said the strength of the community, vandal
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: family and friends are helping them move forward. On the
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: one year anniversary of the murders of Kailee Gonsalves, Xana Kernodle,
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  Speaker 1: Madison Mogan, and Ethan Chapin, a group gathered on the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: University of Idaho campus to share tears, hugs, and heartfelt
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: memories of the young lives that ended on November thirteenth,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. The large tree that's the centerpiece of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Moscow's Friendship Square during the holiday season was adorned with
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: heartfelt messages written by community members to honor the four
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: victims of the November thirteenth murders near the University of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Idaho campus, kay Gonsalvis, Madison Mogan, Ethan Chapin, and Xana Kernodle.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: The killing of Kailee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Ethan Chapin the twenty twenty two inspired UI students and
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  Speaker 1: the people of Moscow to come together and honor the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: victims and others with a Memorial Garden. There is a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: plan to create the Vandal Healing Garden and memorial on
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the UI campus to honor the four victims. Walker called
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: it an incredibly powerful student driven project involving students in
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the College of Art and Architecture reaching out to the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: families of students who have died and to the wider
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: community for ideas on how to honor the students. Made
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the student community feel stronger, Weedenfield said. For students like Whedenfield,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: this healing Garden will not just honor the four that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: were fatally stabbed. He said, it's meant to memorialize all
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: students who didn't live to see graduation day. They said,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it will also serve as a space for emotional healing.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: There will be a special monument to honor the four
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: students who died in November of twenty twenty two. All Right,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here, and in the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode code
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: can be found in the description box. What's up everyone,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and welcome back to the program. In this episode, we're
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: picking up where we left off with the declaration of
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Brian Edelman in support of Brian Koberger. Meanwhile, the university
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: continues work on developing a memorial garden at an undetermined
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on campus location. The UI is also planning a memorial
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and garden to honor the four victims and a kernodle
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogan, and Kaylee Gonsalves. Green said the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: plans being developed by a committee of student representation. The
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: university is also in the process of designing a memorial
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: garden on campus to honor Kernodle Chapin, Mogan, and Gonsalvs.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Scholarships have been created in memory of Kernodle Chapin and Mogen.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: The UI is currently working with the Gonsalvas family to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: develop a fourth scholarship in her name. Mementos left by
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: local residents to honor the victims were seen next to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the house's parking lot. The four students received posthumous degrees
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and certificates at UI's spring commencement ceremony. The house owner
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: donated the property to UI in February, and university officials
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: have said they plan to tear down the house. Green
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: said demolishing the house will be a healing step for
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the community, but the demolition plans are on hold until
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: October after some of the victim's families asked the university
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: for a delay until the suspect in the slaying stands trial.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: The King Rode Home, where a four University of Idaho
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: students were murdered in November, will likely be demolished before
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the start of the fall semester, a university official says.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: After the murders, the property owner donated the home to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the UI, which plan to demolish it before the start
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: of the school's fall semester as a healing gesture for
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the community and to prevent efforts to sensationalize the crime scene.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: The King Road House, the crime scene where four University
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of Idaho students were murdered last year, was demolished early
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: in the morning this Thursday, with construction crew's beginning demolition
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: at six thirty am. Members of the media surrounded the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: hose house and directed their cameras toward the destruction. Walker
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: confirmed that one hundred percent of the apartments and houses
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: surrounding the King Road House house students, and that the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: presence of the house affected those students. We heard from
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: students in the area that they were ready for the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: house to come down. Shannon Gray, an attorney for the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Gonsalvis family, said the university is disregarding family's requests that
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the home be left standing until after Coberger's trial. We
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: just want justice for our loved ones. The statement read,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: we want to start healing. We do. We want to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: find justice and try to move on from this horrible tragedy.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So please please start making some decisions, get to work,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and quit playing the delay game. The previously unidentified former
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: roommate at the King Road House in Moscow, where four
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: University of Idaho students were killed in the late twenty
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: twenty two, has publicly come forward in her efforts to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: contribute to the lasting legacy of her friends. Said she
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: chose to speak out for the first time to honor
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the lives lost and bring awareness to college students about
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: being safe on social media play. It crosses my mind
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: more than that could have happened while I was there,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and you know, you never know how long someone's watching
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: your house Couch said in her interview with kx LYTV
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and Spokane. I remember my last text message to her.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I was like are you okay? And I feel like,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: right then and there, I kind of just knew that
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: something was wrong. I mean I couldn't even walk out
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to my car in the dark for months after it happened,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Couch told the TV station. Now, Couch and her mother
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: have found a nonprofit, the Maid with Kindness Foundation, to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: raise money for outreach and a national scholarship fund. Couch
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: said she wants to ensure her former roommates are remembered
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: in a positive light rather than in the way in
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: which their lives were taken. The parents of the victims Gonsalvests,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: have consistently vented frustration about the length of time the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: case is taken more than eighteen months and counting since
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Coburger's arrest. To bring to trial, the court needs to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: take control of the case and the attorneys involved, the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Gonsalvest family said in a statement obtained by the Idaho
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Statesmen after two hearings last month. As long as the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: court continues to entertain anything in everything at every hearing,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the delay will never end. The victims' families want justice,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: but just as importantly, we want the case to move forward.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Family members of one of the victims in Novembers quadruple
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: homicide in Moscow or urging people to complete random acts
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of kindness on her behalf today. The media has also
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: kept this case in the public's consciousness by providing constant
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: updates on court proceedings, no matter how trivial. These hearings
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: have covered a range of topics, from the court imposed
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: gag order to evidentary disputes. As part of the coverage
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of the victim's families in the public have been critical
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: of perceived efforts by the defense to delay the trial.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: There was also significant coverage surrounding the defense change a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: venue survey, which came to light after the government filed
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and unseal motion to stop the data collection process. This
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: resulted in another deluge of prejudicial coverage and discussion on
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: social media and use. After two hearings were streamed on
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Court TV and watched by thousands, the media drew on
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the prosecutions, court filing and arguments during the live stream proceedings,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: accusing the defense of spreading misinformation and tanking the jury pool.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: The coverage fed the public perception that the defense was
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: trying to undermine the judicial process or get Colburger off
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: on a legal technicality, and further undermine the court's efforts
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to stem the flow of information to prospective jurors. Examples
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of this media coverage include Leayta County Prosecutor Bill Thompson
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and the questions on the survey were completely inappropriate for
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: potential jurors, and that the information in the questions was
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: false and it admissible, and that the question violated the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: non dissemination order. Leyta County Prosecutor Bill Thompson argued the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: survey is violating the court's non dissemination order that prohibits
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: attorneys from making out of court statements about the case
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to the public. That is reckless conduct and its outrageous,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Thompson said. About the survey questions, Thompson reiterated that Colburger's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: defense is allowed to conduct a survey, but the questions
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: in this particular survey were inappropriate and jeopardized Coburger's right
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to a fair trial. We're trying to salvage a mess,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Thompson said. Thompson's office found out about the survey questions
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: in March from a Lata resident who recorded the phone survey.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Thompson accused Edelman's survey of including loaded questions that introduce
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: information including false information about the case to the survey takers.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: In his closing statement, Thompson said, it seems the defense
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: is okay with tanting jurors to ascertain the bias of
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: other potential jurors. Thompson accused Edelman's survey of including loaded
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: questions that introduce false information to the case to the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: survey takers. Thompson said that information is now planted into
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the Layta County residents who took the survey. I do
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: not question the right of the defense to commission surveys, responsible,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: proper surveys as part of the debate over venue, but
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: this survey cannot stand, Thompson said. The prosecutor, defense at
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: turn and judge in the Brian Colberger case participated in
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a heated argument Thursday regarding due process and a survey
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of potential jurors in Leyta County. Judge John Judge was
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: frustrated about the survey. This was a total shock to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: me because this is a big deal and I take
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it very very seriously, and I was surprised, okay, that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: this was happening behind our backs, my back, Judge said.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: He said that the survey happening without the commission of
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the Court or the State was troublesome, and that the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: questions planted seeds to encourage people to look up information
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: about the case. Taylor and Judge got into a heated
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: argument over due process stemming from judges order filed on
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: March twenty second that prohibited the defense and prosecution from
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: contacting potential jurors about the case. This was in response
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to the survey Leyta County District Judge John Judge prohibited
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Coburger's attorneys and the prosecution from contacting potential jurors about
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: this case in a March twenty second order. The defense
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: in the Brian Colberger case has been a way order
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to pause surveying potential jurors in Leta County due to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: problematic questions. They asked four hundred potential jurors. The list
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: of questions that were of a concern to the prosecution
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: include information on Coburger's arrest, DNA evidence found at the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: crime scene that was matched to Colburger, Colburger owning the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: same car recorded on video driving in the neighborhood where
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the murders occurred, cell phone data showing Coburger making several
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: trips to the victim's home in the month before the killings,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: university students and parents living in fear until Coburger's arrest,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Coburger's alibi, Coburger potentially stalking one of the victims, and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: if Colburger followed one of the victims on social media.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Judge expressed disappointment in the survey by saying the prosecution
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and defense of work so hard to protect a fair trial,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: which was the point of the non dissemination order. He
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: is concerned the survey will inject prejudicial information into the
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: jury pool. Judge John Judge will decide whether a survey
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of potential jurors in the Brian Colberger case inappropriately spread
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: prejudicial information about the case. Prosecutor Bill Thompson took issue
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: with several questions in a phone survey created by Brian Edelman,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: who was a survey expert hired by Colberger's defense attorney
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and Taylor. The question Thompson is concerned about asked the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: participants if they have read, seen, or heard about certain
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: details about the Coburger case. Some of the details are
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: not even true, Thompson said. They include questions about whether
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the participant knows about the knife sheath allegedly found at
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the crime scene. The multiple visits to the crime scene,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Colburger allegedly took that Moscow residents lived in fear of
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: following the crime, and that Coburger had allegedly stalked his victims.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Thompson is concerned about specific questions regarding what he says
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: is false information that was not on the probable cause
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: affid David. One of those questions asked survey takers if
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: they read, seen, or heard reports that Coburger stalked his victims.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: When Thompson questioned Edelman about the survey, the exchange between
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the two men became heated, and Taylor accused Thompson of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: badgering Edelman. Letai County discre Judge John Judge is allowing
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Brian Colberger's defense to continue asking potential jurors to participate
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: in a survey regarding the quadruple murder case. Judge officially
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: lifted his previous order banning the defense from contacting prospective
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: jurors in Letai County and other Idaho counties. In conclusion,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: my review of pre child publicity indicates that Leayta County
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Jerrypool has been saturated with prejudicial coverage surrounding the sensational
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: murders of four University of Idaho students, the ensuing search
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: for the killer, public statements from the victims, family members,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and evidentiary details. After Brian Colberger's arrest, the media reported
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: extensively on alleged evidence, some of which proved to be
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: false or misleading. These killings and shockwaves through the local
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: community and generated a state of panic. Between twenty five
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: percent forty percent of the student body failed to return
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to Moscow after the Thanksgiving break. Before the defendant's arrest,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: there was widespread frustration with the lack of details made
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: public about the ongoing investigation. With minimal official information available, rumors, speculation,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and misinformation proliferated. The survey data indicate that the media
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: coverage has negatively impacted the Latai County jerrypool. For example,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the Latai County survey respondents have read, seen,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: or heard about the case, and eighty six percent recognized
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: at least four of nine media items tested in the survey.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Eighty one percent of those familiar with the case of
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Red seen or heard that police found a knife sheath
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: on the bed next to one of the victims, and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: sixty seven percent heard that DNA found on the sheath
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: match Brian Colberger. In addition, eighty eight percent of Layta
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: County survey respondents have talked about this case or heard
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: others talking about it in person or online. The media
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: coverage has also shifted the burden of proof to the defendant.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Many community members exposed to prejudicial media coverage hold a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: presumption of guilt in this case. Sixty seven percent of
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: survey respondents familiar with the case believe that Brian Colberger
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: is guilty of murder, and fifty one percent reported that
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: he would have a difficult time convincing them otherwise. All right,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up this episode here and in
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the next episode, we're going to pick up with six
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: telephone Survey. All of the information that goes with this
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box.