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A Traveling Man John Bonamego · Sports Exchange

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Hello everybody, It's Monday Night Football on a Sports Exchange. No I am
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anything but Howard Cosell. The guy stanks. Sorry Howard fans, but Monday
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Night Football as a brand and we got it tonight and we are happy to
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be joined by coach John Bonamego, a man who's been well traveled. Jeremy
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Be's wearing the Lions cap, so you know he made a stop there and
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coach, welcome to the broadcast and we're looking forward to having you on.
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Certainly a lot more time though, but this is a good first act for
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us to go there and talk a lot of football. Just you know,
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folks, traveling man John Bonamega before I go to your coach. Okay,
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a little bit more of a lively introduction here to keep you going and keep
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a fall going. Welcome to the Sports Exchange, Coach, and looking forward
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to having you more of a great first time first stack for us. Great
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to be here. Sky, You think you very much for having me.
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It's a pleasure. It's our pleasure as well, all right, George,
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Iikhorn, this guy like and I coach. We've been working together over forty
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three years, so what's another few more, all right, George, So
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looking forward to it, looking forward to talking to coach too. Great great
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program we got and the last one not least woke. And Jeremy Bee has
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been on both ends of the double header, and yes he was permitted to
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where the Lions captain night because I have to make sure that in some particular
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cases I've been the rules a little bit and he gets to do it on
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these particular broadcast. Jeremy I appreciate it and I'm happy to be here.
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All right, Well, your first project here is to talk about Will Vogel's
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comments, So go ahead, and Jeremy he goes. First off, thank
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you for answering my question. You played wide receiver and quarterback at Central Michigan.
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What propelled you to coach special teams and what do you like about it
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the most? I would say it was kind of luck of the draw in
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terms of what propelled me to it and what kept me there is you know,
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one of those deals when when you find something that you enjoy and you
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know, when other people think you're good at it, they're going to keep
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you there. But I think the thing that I enjoyed most about coaching special
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teams was it allowed me to work with the entire team, and in fact,
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other than the head coach, the special team's coach is probably the only
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coach on the staff that speaks to the entire team every single day. So
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in that regard, it really did a lot in preparing me, you know,
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for that opportunity to be a head coach. I gotta say one thing
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about coach Him and I are actually Kennedy babies. He was born in nineteen
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sixty three in August. It looks like I was born December of sixty two,
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So you know, coach you and II, there aren't many of us
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John F. Kennedy babies. I don't talk politics. It's okay. Didn't
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mentioned John F. Kennedy knowing that we're both a rare breed here, What
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can I tell you? All Right, well, let's start from the beginning,
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Okay, But before I do, I want to you know, I'm
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so inspired by you because you're a cancer survivor and obviously you have a situation
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in your councils and you call it earlier and it was very treatable. We're
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going to certainly talk about this another show, so I just want to congratulate
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you for being a cancer survivor once again. On another edition of No Limits,
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we'll tell your story. Thank you, Scotty. Like we've talked about
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off the air, I mean, it's there's a lot to that and to
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do it justice probably it does require some time. But I really appreciate you
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recognizing that. And I mean, I'm sure we all know somebody that's been
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through that or maybe have a family member, even people out there that are
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listening you know I would say, you know, without going too much into
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depth, is remember that those people have families and they need your prayers and
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support as well. You know, I mean for me in my case.
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You know, I was a very very public position and man the outpoint of
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because the support came from all directions. But I will tell you that,
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you know, having a wife and young kids at the time, don't you
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know if there's somebody that's close to you, don't forget about those people as
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well, because they need they need your prayer and support to as well.
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Well. Again, we're going to do it an entire show to it,
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but well I'm actually talking about it on May eleventh, mark the fiftieth year
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that my grandpa, Sydney Morgan Routh died of lung cancer and I vowed to
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never smoke when he died. In fifty years later, I never have.
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So what can I tell you. I can find other adventurous ways to get
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into trouble, but it wasn't going to be that way. So well,
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we're going to get your question about pleasing in a little bit, but we'll
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mention it. But I want to make sure we stay on track here well,
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so we'll keep that on there, and when we get to the New
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Orleans staying stop, we're going to insert it and keep on track. But
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that said, you know, I used to drive by this place an awful
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lot. But mine alive ninety four Paul Paul High School in Michigan. You
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gradually tell me a little bit about Well, I was an army brat,
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so I kind of went to school. Uh, you know, we moved
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all over the place. But my dad was from Lawrence, Michigan, And
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so before my junior year in high school, we were actually stationed in Vicenza,
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Italy, and uh, you know, so my freshman sophomore year,
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we were we were playing in like the Department of Defense school system. And
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uh, I think my dad had enough vision to know that. You know,
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at that point in time, I was, you know, a big
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fish in a small pond. And you know, back in those days,
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you know, if you know there, it was before the internet, right,
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I mean, there was no there was no huddle. I mean,
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you know, I remember our high school games were filmed on sixteen millimeter film,
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and so if you were going to be recruited, you had to be
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someplace where those college recruiters were going to get a chance to see you,
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watch you play, or come in, uh, come into school to watch
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that one copy of the game film that they that the head coach had locked
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up under. You know, it wasn't leaving them, wasn't going to leave
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the building. So it was a lot of a lot different a lot different
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time. And you know, I was grateful that my parents trusted me,
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grateful to a lot of people that they kind of took me in and and
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uh, you know, gave me a place to stay. And you know,
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it was I didn't realize at the time, but it really was a
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big step forward in terms of my independence, in terms of being able to
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you know, handle the moving which was to come. So I kind of
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imagine, well, you see into this really nicely now. Also, you
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know, we had three, like I had three high school coaches at Papa
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that all played major college football. Yeah, Don moorehead was my head coach,
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and he was he was actually Boschembeckler's first quarterback at Michigan went to the
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Rose Bowl and I think nineteen sixty seven, Kim Roecamp who was an All
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American at Michigan State, and then Rick Smith, who was an All Mac
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player at Western Michigan. So that was one of the reasons of you know,
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it was an attractive situation for me. It was the staff was so
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experienced and they were all former college football players. All right, so I
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got an interesting thing here, open whole we're on the traveling thing. We're
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gonna be on that all night. Anyways, you lived in eight zip codes
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in Italy and Ethiopia before you turned eighteen. I got to hear this one
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soday. Yeah, I mean again, just dad being military, you know,
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yeah, we would probably do another story about this. But like my
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dad was graduated from high school, went enlisted straight into the military. In
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the first place he stationed is uh Asmara, Ethiopia and Africa. There was
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an Italian colony there. He was I think nineteen or twenty. My mom
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was eighteen. She didn't speak English, she didn't speak Italian, but somehow
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or another day ended up together and you know, uh mom had me when
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she was nineteen, and you know they were married and you know the rest
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is history. But yeah, you know, from there, I don't know,
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we came back to the United States, and I know I remember Washington.
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I can remember Washington, d C. North Carolina. Two tours in
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Kansas two tours, and in Georgia and then Germany, Italy, Michigan while
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my dad was in Vietnam. Those are the only ones I remember off the
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top of my head. Okay, Well, Vogel alluded to this a little
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board and we talked. He already talked about you're playing wide receiver in quarterback
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over at Central. But the reality is you also graduated in health and fitness
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back in nineteen eighty seven, so while you were playing quarterback. How important
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was it to have a degree like that in health and fitness while you were
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playing so you're having a better appreciation of conditioning and so forth. Honestly,
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I mean, I think it was great. But truthfully, I mean I
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had no idea what I wanted to study when I went to college. I
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knew I wanted to play college football, And you know, I think I
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don't want to minimize the education that I received because it means a lot to
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me. But at that time, I was, to be honest and brutally
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honest, I was just trying to stay eligible to play and I walked on
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at Central. I didn't have a scholarship. I just I probably was a
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Division three athlete that wanted to play Division one, and you know I just
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walked on and earned a scholarship in my final year. Not wrong with that,
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coach, not at all. I mean, listen, when we go
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to college, you know we could probably take on a degree. We never
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use it anyway, So it's a difference you certainly obviously your history speaks for
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itself that you were able to use the education and be a part of football.
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So now this is where it gets really fun for us. We're going
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to talk about your coaching stops and the frequent flyer miles you have. So
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I don't have a calculator. Don't ask me to come up with all this
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stuff. I'm not going to do it. So you can go into as
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much detail as you want and either long or short depending on the stop,
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however you want to do. It was in high school, you're an in
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eighty seven yere an assistant coach? Is that correct? And I was It
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was a co head coach at prior to that, I mentioned my last place
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my dad was was Italy. I went I went home. I went to
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Italy for Christmas break. My mom had my mom was My mom had a
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very accomplished career in the American Red Cross. One of her one of her
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volunteers, was a head coach for an Italian team. So I took a
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semester off of school and went to Italy for six months and was a player
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coach for an Italian team in Verona, Italy Redskins. If I remember Verona
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Redskins. Yeah, you got it. And then and then came back and
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I had like, you know, eight nine credits left to graduate. So
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I was the co had JD coach at Mount Pleasant High School while I was
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you know, finishing up my undergrad So sound all right, Well maybe I
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mentioned these schools and you tell me the role you're you went up to Maine,
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right, yea and ninety one yes, talked about that graduate assistant again,
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three head coaches in three years. It was Tim Murphy who's at Harvard
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now. Tom Lichtenberg came in and Coach Lichtenberg really gave me a big break
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because as a second year graduate assistant, you know, a smaller school,
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but still, you know, great experience. I got, had the opportunity
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to be I was actually d wide receiver coach, met with the guys,
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put in the game plan, graded everything, you know, as a as
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a second year graduate assistant. So that was tremendous. And then coach Lichtenberg
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left to go to Ohio University and then fairly well known guy by the name
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of Kirk Ferns came in as the head coach, and Coach Ferns actually hired
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me to my first full time position, and so I was wide receivers and
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special teams. Okay, all right, lehi in nineteen ninety two, yep,
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UM running backs and special teams. Okay, Army, Well, that's
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not an easy gig, Bobby, Bobby Ross actually talk about your army experience
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phenomenal. Uh, still keep in touch with a lot of those young men
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which are now grown men. UM. You know, a tremendous laboratory just
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by virtue of the fact of the number of bodies that you have out at
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practice. UM. You know, my first year I was on the defensive
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side of the ball and I did special teams. And then the following year,
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UM, I really became one of the nine assistants. The NCAA eliminated
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the recruiting coordinator role, and our head coach, coach Bob Sutton, who's
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also a Michigan MANUM had the idea of putting me in the recruiting coordinator role
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and then giving me special teams because, as he put it, I wouldn't
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be bogged down in staff meetings. I could work independently, and then when
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I was done with my game planning, I could I was always available for,
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you know, to work on recruiting, which was you know, it's
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a gigantic undertaking anywhere, but at the service academies again, especially back then,
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it was it was a never ending job. I mean, I think
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I was in that role for three years before I even took any time off
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in the summertime. You know, of course at West Point, you know,
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the kids show up a little bit before July fourth, and somebody's got
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to be around, and you know, you have a hundred freshmen, and
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you know, I was probably the only one on the staff that knew all
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of them, just because I was a recruiting coordinator and I had dealt with
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them, you know, in some way, shape or form, either getting
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them to the West Point prep or you know, getting them directly in school.
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So um Man probably probably one of the favorite, one of my favorites,
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probably one of my favorite, if not the most favorite stop that I've
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had just because the institution what it represents, and then the you know,
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the young men that you got a chance to work with, and the quality
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of people just knowing what they are, you know, knowing what's ahead of
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them, you know when they when they graduate, and then you know,
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beyond their military service. I mean, it was a great honor to have
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worked at at West Point. Well you go from West Point to a military
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town and I'm all too failure. Well this one the Jacksonville Jaguars. As
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I look at your bio here ninety nine to two thousand and one year,
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I believe you're an assistant special teams coach. Right, Yeah. I started
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off as the assistant special teams coach and then in two thousand and two,
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when coach Frank Gantz retired, I became the coordinator. And you know that
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whole time I worked for Coach Coughlin, which again it was a blessing to
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be able to come in, you know, to be able to come into
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the nfl U in that role because you know, I think you know,
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the thing that gets young coordinators uh in the NFL is not the exs and
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os. It's it's all the other stuff. It's how you practice Um,
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you know how you how you communicate with the players. Um, remember when
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I first got the job. On my interview, Coach Coughlin said this to
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me, And I never forget it. He said, he said, you
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know, Johnny goes, there are a lot more parallels between the NFL and
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high school football than there are the NFL and college football. And I really
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didn't understood what that meant until, you know, really until we got through
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training camp and then got into the season, and then I'm like, okay,
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I get it. You know. It's it's the number of bodies there
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out of practice. You know, in college football, you've got you know,
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most Division one schools are going to try to carry one hundred and twenty
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players, and so your offensive defense you practice separately. The offenses on one
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end, the defenses on the other. You have your your your show team,
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your scout teams, and you rarely come together unless it's for like a
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couple periods during the practice. Well, in the NFL, it's like high
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school. You have offensive periods, then you flip over and you have a
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defensive period. And those offensive players, you know, there's there's only eight
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practice squad guys. Some of those frontline players are going to have to jump
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in and give reps as a show team for whatever, you know, for
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the you know, except for your star players that everybody's you know, expected
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to contribute. And so that's kind of what he meant really was the numbers
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and how you manage the numbers on the roster. So you like this stuff,
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you know, go from Jacksonville to Green Bay. Yeah, you probably
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invested some longdowns right there. And I warn you there. Yeah. I
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elected to mention that the very best thing that came out of Jacksonville was I
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met my wife Paul that Oh yeah, you know, we're we're still you
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know, going strong and and you know, when we met, she said,
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I'll go wherever you want, but please try to keep me where you
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know, she's born and raised in Florence. She said, try to keep
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me where it's warm. Uh, you know, for God's sake, don't
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take me to Green Bay. And that's that's kind of how it's worked.
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Anytime she says, gosh, I hope we don't end up there or those
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poor people there. It's like ends up where we're going. Because the next
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stop was, you know, from Green Bay was New Orleans. And I
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remember watching you know, Hurricane Katrina and all the devastation, paul that's saying
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those people, poor people. Gosh, it must be awful, man.
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I'd hate to you know, I'm glad we're not there. And then,
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you know, six months after Katrina hit, we were we were in New
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Orleans with coach hun bat All right, so let's back up a little bit
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here. You really do it. You had to move here better than Barry
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Sanders and like a base too with your other alf So what was your actually
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and I'm putting you in Barry Sanders coach in the same sentence this time right
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there, that was a I don't know what do they call it? A
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jack knife or whatever, army knife move. I don't know what they call
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this stuff. I don't care. So the action when you ended up going
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to know, I'm not surprisingly, I mean maybe not surprisingly. If you
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met Paula, she loved it. I mean you know she did, because,
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guy, she grew up going to football games and at the swamp.
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You know, she's a she's a ball chick. She knows more about football,
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probably before she met me, than than a lot of men do.
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And so you know, once she got up there, she was she was
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good, and our daughter was born, so I mean she was pregnant half
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the time we were there. So that that helps, you know, that
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helps. Are you telling me that your daughter was is a Wisconsin girl?
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Yeah? She was born in Green Bay. Yeah, well that is interesting.
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Okay, she's always born in jack Our sons are both born in Jacksonville,
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and our daughters born she's that she's head she's born in green Bay.
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Well that's okay. Now we can tie this thing into New Orleans. We're
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going some activity in the chat room, and now it's time to asserting.
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Will Vogel comment and this is one length time and I've been in New Orleans
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after Katrina. But go ahead, Jeremy. I remember when you called the
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play that became the infamous block Leason blocked against the Falcons after Hurricane Katrina.
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Yeah, that was a pretty special night, you know, just the energy
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in the stadium. I mean, I think there were two bottos in the
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house. There was the YouTube motto and then I was like, I say
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the me too botto, which is me. Yeah, you know, gosh,
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I mean that atmosphere was probably as close to a Super Bowl as you
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know, as you can get in the regular season. It was a Monday
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night game. You know, both teams were still undefeated. It's a you
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know, rivalry game with Atlanta, and it was a reopening of the Superdome.
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And I think the significance of that play for the people of New Orleans.
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I mean, they built a statue of Steve Gleason. It sits out
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there. It's kind of titled the Rebirth, and so I think that says
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about all it needs to be said. But I mean, Steve made a
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great happened almost exactly the way we drew it up, which is something that
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rarely happens. Um. But yeah, that was you know, I think
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the coolest thing was the Monday Night crew in the in the booth. They
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they they just stopped talking, you know, after they called the play,
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they just stopped talking. And I mean you watched the replays of the cameras
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are panning around to the fans, and it was like it was like all
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of that emotion from everything that had transpired in the previous year kind of just
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exploded in one three second play. You know. That's that's about what it
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was like. But it was pretty you know again, Um, I would
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say that's probably the probably the most memorable moment of my career. Okay,
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so you know, in between your New Orleans off, you did have your
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wife got her ability to go to Florida, but this time my nkel was
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South Florida. What about the Miami Dolphins, how would you describe your great
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you know, great, great, great football franchise? Um, you know
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that we were there, you know, got a chance to work closely and
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be around uh coach Parcels, learned a lot um you know, and finished
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kind of rocky got run out of town. But you know that's that's just
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the breaks of the game. I mean, sometimes you know you're gonna have
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bad games as a coach, You're gonna have bad games. As a player,
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you're gonna have you're gonna have bad days in whatever whatever job you do.
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And it's not you know, that's not where you measure yourself. It's
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where what do you do after that is how you measure yourself. And so
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we have a question in chat room Jeremy coming from bow all right, what
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do you guys think of the Thursday night football schedule getting a through for this
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season? After what happened last year? You guys asking me they had to
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do something or Jeff Diesels might us that I reject this contract. You can
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find somebody else over it, all, right, what's your thought, Coach,
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Well, I always look at it from the standpoint of the players.
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I think those those Thursday night games, as popular as they are and as
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much as a fan as I like to watch them, um that's a really
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tough turnaround for the players to play on Sunday and then come back on Thursday
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night. Um Man, flexing them, you know that is that'll be interesting,
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because you know, I think mentally, you know, I think it's
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gonna be interesting. And I hope that they give them at least a week
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in advance so that they can be prepared, because you know, when when
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you do those things, your routine is going to be different. And and
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that's my own that's the only thing. I think it's great for the fans.
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My concern would be for the players and recovery time and you know,
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preparation time and all those things. Great question, boll Really, that was
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an excellent question about any thoughts about this one, George. I'm against it,
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and Coach I got to disagree with you. It is a slap in
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the face of the fans. Fans planned their trips to the stadium with their
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families. They run hotel rooms, they run campgrounds, they plan it out,
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and then the NFL comes along with the big mighty television sword and says,
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huh sorry, I mean I agree with you. They are going to
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give them notice. I think they said as much as eighteen days notice,
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fifteen days. I read something today. But I don't like them. I
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don't like them at all, and I never will. I'm sorry. Thanksgiving
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Day, I'll give you that. That's a holiday, that's a tradition.
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But I and a players too, I agree with you, coach. I
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mean, it's hard for the staff and hard for the players and the training
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staff to get everybody ready. But but like I said, my overriding thing
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is it's you're you're really really disrupting the fans. Yes on flex it right
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in change? Like are they saying you were going to play on on on
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Sunday and now you're playing Thursday? Right, they're moving it up up three
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days? Right? Yeah, that's that's that's gonna be. Actually four weeks
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notice they give when they're gonna flex it, according to both Okay, well
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that's twenty eight days. Is that twenty eight days. You usually don't get
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a cancelation fee. If it's within like ten days, you do, So
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I get it. I mean, the only thing I'll add to it is
27:38
NFL players are a creature of habit, That's all I can say. And
27:41
coach, you know that, everybody, they're all in a routine, right,
27:44
so they expect certain things to you. When you play a Thursday game,
27:48
you don't, you know, you're not practicing that week, you don't.
27:52
I mean, you're gonna get You're gonna be walkthroughs, you know,
27:56
a lot of video, Yeah, walk throughs as much videos you can.
28:00
And you're trying to carry as much from the game plan from the previous week
28:06
into that second week just because you won't have time to install. All right,
28:11
So let's let's go back to your second tenure in New Orleans. Obviously
28:15
at that point in twenty eleven, and well, logel makes you have another
28:18
interesting point at that play needs it to the camp and if it's not there,
28:21
yeah, I mean, and let's not forget it's als. I mean
28:25
a lot of Bill Garrig's disease. So you know, we'll tell me what
28:29
it was like in twenty eleven playing for you know, being a part of
28:33
something like that. Um, that was you know, that was a great
28:37
It was great to be back, you know, it was it was awfully
28:41
you know, I needed a lifeline, you know, and Sean Payton gave
28:45
me a lifeline. And you know, it's funny because I left as a
28:49
coordinator there and Greg McMahon is a good friend of mine, was my assistant.
28:55
And then two thousand and eleven I came back and we just reversed roles.
29:00
Uh. He was the coordinator and I was his assistant. And you
29:03
know, one of the things that I got to do was take Steve Glease
29:11
and and you know, we went to that final playoff game in San Francisco,
29:15
which was shoot. That might been the most physical game that I've ever
29:21
been associated with. I mean, that game was insanely physical. But you
29:27
know, I took Steve and I got him on the plane and got him
29:33
off the plane and turned him over to his brother. And then after the
29:37
game, got him from his brother, got him on the plane and got
29:41
him back off the plane when we got back to New Orleans, and turned
29:45
him turned him over to his wife Shell. So, UM, I am
29:51
a big believer in Providence, and I think that I think that God puts
29:55
us in the places where he wants us, where he needs us. And
30:00
you know, I think that I was supposed to be back there for for
30:03
those reasons. And uh, it was a great, great year. Um,
30:08
it was tough because my family stayed in Florida, so we we kind
30:12
of you know, we we commuted that year. But um, there's a
30:18
lot of you know, a lot of good memories from that from that season.
30:22
Are you still in touch with Steve Lee's police in a lot? Yeah,
30:26
I mean periodically I check in on him. It's it's a little bit
30:29
easier to communicate with other people that are closer to him because I mean for
30:34
him to you know, for him to communicate now it's all via text message,
30:40
and you know he's but he's still plugging away. I mean, he's
30:44
doing he's doing well. Good. All right, Well, let's go back
30:47
to Jacksonville. You another tenure there, this time you were with Mike Mularkey.
30:51
Yep, that was a rough year. Yeah, I actually cover well,
30:57
I believe that well, well we'll keep that one of your short of
31:00
comments. I believe that you wanted just a couple of games, right,
31:03
I think I think we won two or three. I can't. I think
31:07
I believe. Yeah, but you know, you obviously worked with my good
31:10
buddy Dan Edwards. Dan Edwards is certainly one of the nicest guys you could
31:14
ever really one of the best in the business right there. Yeah, he's
31:17
a guy that I think so much of, a good friend of mine.
31:19
I'm looking forward to seeing him in the chair. All right now, mister
31:22
ball Rank has a Detroit Lions head on there, and now we take our
31:26
way back to the Midwest. You're with the Lions from thirteen to fourteen.
31:30
Tell us a little bit about that. Tremendous it was great to be back
31:33
in Michigan. Um, you know, Jim Schwartz and coach Calwell, we're
31:38
both outstanding to me. You know that that team in the first year in
31:45
Detroit, I mean we were loaded. We were you know, we might
31:48
not have been a great team, but we were really good, special teams
31:51
outfit. The next year we lost a couple of guys not as good,
31:56
but you know, those were those were two really fun years. You know,
32:04
always appreciated the Lions, but maybe not so much until after I worked
32:09
there. You know, the Ford family and what they put into that franchise.
32:14
I mean they really don't get enough credit. I think they don't.
32:17
I mean as fans, you know, when when where we expect a lot
32:23
as we should. Um, but I really think the Fords go. It's
32:30
just I would say this. I've worked in a lot of great organizations.
32:35
None were better than the Detroit Lions in terms of a work environment. Um,
32:40
you know, having all of the things at your disposal to help you
32:45
do your job to the very best of your ability and this, you know,
32:49
knowing that you had h one hundred percent support by ownership and just doing
32:55
everything in a first class manner. There There wasn't There isn't anybody in my
33:01
mind that has done a better job that than with that than the uh than
33:07
the Detroit Lions. Okay, Chamy go to chat Dom Drubs. One of
33:12
our Detroit buddies says, question for John, who is the best kick returner
33:15
you ever coached? Darren Sproles. I'm sitting there, but well, I'm
33:23
looking at the years and I think he just missed out on Stefan Logan.
33:28
Yeah, it had to be had to be Darren Sproles at that point.
33:31
I'm looking through those list of teams. Yeah, great question, Tom,
33:37
That's a really good one. I like that you'd have been Chicago and the
33:40
late two thousands. Yeah, Hester, Yeah, but he had he had
33:46
to coach against him, you know, twice a year. It was like,
33:51
you know, I'll tell you what I used to like watch Darren Sproles
33:58
did everybody else, including the official. That's why, you know, not
34:01
taking a thing away from him or anything that did. But they you know,
34:07
they benefited maybe from one or two miss calls just because human nature.
34:10
I mean that the guys that the guy was is a freak. I mean
34:15
he really was. He was you talk about a scary dude. It's like
34:19
you don't want to put the ball anywhere near him, you know. I
34:22
mean it's only a matter of time, you know, if he touches it,
34:24
if he touches it too many times, he's going to hurt you because
34:30
he's just that dominant of the player, you know, all time. The
34:34
Rubis brings up another interesting point that Jeremy just touched on Mel Gray and Devin
34:45
He was great. Yeah, I like Gray kind of the guy that Mel
34:51
Gray was probably the you know, the first guy that was like you know,
34:58
became known for that, right, I mean, uh there, you
35:04
know, I don't ever. I don't like rankings. You know, I
35:08
don't rank them either. I don't know, but I think they're both They're
35:13
both guys that are you know, they're both Hall of Fame caliber players for
35:17
certain So all right, well, I'll tell you what, coach, I'm
35:22
gonna keep the chat room going. Then we'll keep your sons rolling at the
35:24
same time. All right, Well, a little vogel so I love about
35:28
an active chat room and means I'll never lose my voice during the course of
35:30
the show. All right, go ahead, Jeremy, are you close with
35:34
anyone who's still in the NFL player or coach? Um, considering he just
35:38
coached a two years ago, I'm quite sure he is. Thousands right,
35:46
I'm looking at this list. Was one of the reasons. It's one of
35:51
the reasons that BSN hired me, I think is because of my network.
35:55
So um, yeah, you know, and ultimately, you know, I
36:00
was gonna I'm kind of mad at myself. I didn't make this, uh
36:05
point earlier, but I know, Um, when we were talking the other
36:08
day, I said it. But you know, it's it's really not about
36:13
the places so much as it is the people that are there, right,
36:16
I mean, it's it's the it's uh, it's the you know, it's
36:22
the individuals, the coaches and the other and the players that are in the
36:24
hallways every day. That's that's what makes a place special. It's not you
36:30
know, it's not really the colors or the logo on the helmet. It's
36:35
it's it's the people. And uh, you know, I was just very
36:38
very fortunate. I've been very fortunate that I got an opportunity to work with
36:44
and around a lot of great I think one of my pet beads is that
36:47
a lot of people tend to characterize stereotype professional athletes. And yeah, I
36:54
mean we do. You know, there's some a holes for but the majority
37:00
of the guys that I've worked with have you know, they want to get
37:06
better, they want to be you know, the game's important to them.
37:09
They they they want to learn that you know, they're professionals or they want
37:15
to learn to be a professional. And um, you know, again,
37:20
the overwhelming the majority of the guys are awesome guys. H And every every
37:25
every profession is going to have you know, one or two bad apples here
37:30
and there. But unfortunately, and in our society is we would rather,
37:36
you know, we would rather put the guys that screw up and do dumb
37:38
things. We want to put them on a pedestal or you know, because
37:43
it's more interesting to talk about that than to talk about the twenty other guys
37:47
that are you know, doing everything right and have foundations and have charities and
37:52
and are you know, doing things to try to help people. And so
37:57
I've got to answer this one here, and so you guys take it for
38:00
what it's worth it face value, all right, Duncan Lozinski. How can
38:05
you guys be talking about football at a time like this but the Panthers in
38:09
the Eastern Conference finals. Duncan, I'm putting it up here because you know
38:14
what, I have a responsibility to realize that I know where your allegiances are.
38:19
So what I'm gonna do, Duncan, what this comment is. I'm
38:21
going to ask you to be our crack update person about the Florida Panthers.
38:25
And you're more than welcome to give us updates so that we can count you
38:29
as a guy that's leading breaking news about the Florida Panthers in the Carolina hurricane.
38:34
But that said, Duncan, the next thing I should hear from you
38:37
in the chat room is a score and we might even comment on it.
38:39
But thanks a lot for Hey, listen, you're tuning in. We can't
38:43
be that bad, right You're watching the Panthers and watching us, So we
38:47
will just take that. Duncan is a very nice compliment, Thank you very
38:52
much. So there you go, all Joshua Burnstein says one nothing catch,
38:55
but Duncan will still make you our crack guy anyway. So all right,
39:00
so let's continue on as a victory tour for coach Vinyl continues. You went
39:05
up the Central Michigan you were their head coach fifteen to eighteen, and obviously,
39:12
you know, you had four teams. I know your last year was
39:14
a little up with talk about your entire experience over at cmu UM, I
39:21
mean, very gratifying for the most part. You know, I think it
39:23
was a goal of mine to be a head coach. Specifically I had,
39:28
you know, it was kind of like the uh, the dream job for
39:30
me, and if it had gone to according to plan, I'd still be
39:36
there. I mean, I had a tremendous amount of love for the institution
39:40
in the football program there. Um, you know, uh inherited a pretty
39:45
good team. Uh, you know, went to three bowl games. Uh,
39:51
you know the first three years and uh you know in the in the
39:54
last year, we were just we were just a really young team. But
39:58
you know, I been asking, you know, my bigger you know,
40:01
for for being let go and answers. No. I mean when you when
40:07
you get into this profession, you understand what the pitfalls are. Uh,
40:10
you know what's at you know what the risks are, and you know you
40:15
have to win. Um, and if you don't win enough, then you
40:20
know you're you're probably gonna lose your job. And you know, I think
40:24
we were one and eleven that last year, and that's simply not good enough,
40:29
you know, even though we were young, and uh you know there
40:32
are again there's a lot of things that contributed to that, but the bottom
40:36
line is, you know, it wasn't acceptable, and it wasn't acceptable to
40:40
me or anybody that's a fan of the program, and you know, they
40:45
deserve better. Um. Do I think I should have gotten fired? No?
40:50
Um, is it justifiable? Absolutely? You know, because I didn't
40:53
win enough games that year. Um, you know, I wished I would
40:58
have had an opportunity to you know, redeem myself with one more year,
41:02
but you know, the powers that be didn't grant that, and so you
41:07
know, we hold our head high. We marched forward and you know,
41:10
we're I'm proud of what we did. I'm proud of the things that we
41:14
did accomplish there. You know, we brought the uh, you know,
41:17
the the we were we were we had to share the Mac championship in the
41:22
first year. We you know, we wanted to brought the Michigan and Michigan
41:25
Mac tropheedback to Mount Pleasant in twenty seventeen, which it had been gosh ten
41:31
years since that had happened. So there was a lot of positives and you
41:37
know, got to see a lot of young men graduate, are doing well,
41:40
and there's a few players that which coach, they are still playing and
41:45
making a living out of it. And so I look back at it as
41:49
mostly positive and really no regret. All Right, well, you statan to
41:52
stay for another year with the Lions in twenty nineteen, what's your thought?
41:59
Um, you know, good year, learned a lot um you know again,
42:02
tough year, uh, tough year record wise, I mean, you
42:07
know, uh, at any level when you lose your quarterback, it's gonna
42:13
be it's gonna be a rough It's you're gonna have a hard time in the
42:16
NFL. I mean, I don't know how many guys we played that that
42:22
year, but there was only one of them that was named Matt Stafford.
42:25
And it just it just puts so much more pressure on every other part of
42:31
the team. Uh, you know, when you don't have your ace in
42:37
that position. And you know, there was a a big blood letting after
42:43
that year, and so I had to go find find work again. Okay,
42:49
and obviously your work went to southern California where what you're at the Rams
42:53
in twenty twenty one, and you actually did get a Super Bowl of ring
42:58
while you've stayed around and gutted it out all this long. So let's just
43:01
talk about the time you spent with the rams. Um. You know,
43:06
first year of COVID man, you know what a challenge, you know,
43:10
but we still managed to make it in the playoffs. The following year,
43:15
took a different role, uh like senior you know, senior coaching assistant.
43:21
You know. Again, you know, good year had a chance to actually
43:24
you know, be in Florida working remotely that season, which was a huge
43:30
bonus. Uh you know, missed being at the games and everything, but
43:35
it was still you know, uh still able to get my work done and
43:39
and meet remotely with U with the Q you know, Polly control guys and
43:45
you know do whatever projects to ask me to do. And you know it
43:49
was you know, would have been would have been a little bit more fun
43:52
to have you know, actually been there every day for they know we were
43:55
gonna uh win the Super Bowl. But when I had a chance to move
44:00
back to Florida and not have to pay whatever sixteen percent income tax in California,
44:07
it was like getting a race, like getting a big race. So
44:10
I'm glad. I was happy that we did it, and my family was
44:15
very happy that we did it. And to the two of sixteen percent,
44:19
I realized it was that high on LA everybody talks about also the cal I
44:22
understand I love going there, but sure, I know it's expensive to live
44:27
there. And your last stop obviously was Iowa State. You were there briefly
44:30
and then obviously chose to retire. Yeah, we think about that. Had
44:35
a blast it at Ames last year. I mean, Matt Campbell does a
44:38
phenomenal job he's a good friend. His last year at Toledo before he went
44:44
to Iowa State was my first year at Central, so we got a chance
44:49
to meet each other and you know, just had a lot of mutual respect
44:53
there, and you know, I was available, and he said, asked
44:59
if I'd be willing to come to Aims and I said sure, And so
45:04
again, you know, um, you know Paul it kind of she can't
45:08
made it up to every home game. Um, so she flew back and
45:13
forth. So we did the commuting thing again, which wasn't ideal, but
45:16
for for one season we could do it. And then you know, just
45:22
really kind of afterwards, really after the season, really kind of prayed about
45:25
it a lot and talked with Paulette and we just really I didn't want to
45:30
move my family anymore. We've got a great spot here in Palm Coast.
45:34
We're happy. And I had this opportunity come along with with BSN and a
45:39
role as a business development or role, and I'm able to piggyback that on
45:45
top of my pension. So life is good. You know, the NFL
45:50
pensions great, but you cannot be employed in the sport of football. So
45:53
right now, even if you know it would It would take a lot to
45:58
get me out of this, the situation that I'm in right now, we're
46:01
pretty happy, all right. So now that we've gotten through all the stops,
46:06
which is not a big deal, I'll tell you I like it because,
46:08
after all, this is the one time shot, folks, if you
46:10
want to see Coach Fano stops and you must listen to this show over and
46:15
over because here's the deal. Okay, I got writers cramp jotting these things
46:20
down. Okay, I'm telling you my hand. Okay, we got a
46:24
workout, you know, and I got so I gotta ask you what mover
46:29
helped you with all these stops? How did you move around for a place
46:31
to place? I get hives when I talk about movers, do I can
46:40
only imagine? Yeah, I wouldn't even begin to ask you which one because
46:45
you're all over the place. So all right, I don't know that I
46:50
could recommend a moving company there. You know, they're they try, they
46:54
do, you know. Fortunately, fortunately, you know, in the NFL,
47:00
most of the time, the clubs, you know, cover your entire
47:05
move you know, because otherwise you you'd go broke, you really, especially
47:14
one year? Yeah, right, you ever have to deal with storage units
47:19
or did you at all? We kind of we kind of avoided that.
47:22
But I tell you what I think, um oh man, I want to
47:27
say, I think the house that we're in right now, I'm just doing
47:31
like a one two. I think this is the eighth house that Paul and
47:44
I have purchased together. That's not counting that's not counting rentals. So I
47:52
don't know. I think we could probably open up our own real estate brokerage
47:57
and we at least know where how to price stuff. And we've we've done
48:02
it enough times so I've got a lot of and I learned all the dudes
48:07
and don'ts of buying and selling the hard way. That's probably another statement.
48:13
Okay, So like I have to ask you this, Quesse well being in
48:15
college. First of all, what are your thoughts about the transfer portal?
48:20
Um. I think it's good. I think it's um. I think it's
48:24
a little bit out of control. UM. I think that they just passed
48:29
some legislation that I think's going to going to help that, you know,
48:32
in terms of like just narrowing down the windows. But I mean, ultimately
48:37
I think that you know, UM, players should be able to to move.
48:42
If they're not, they're not happy. Um. But what I think
48:45
what you're seeing, you know, is you know you're seeing how um transactional
48:55
college football has become because of the transfer portal and now NI oh, it's
49:00
it's it's truly it's becoming more and more transactional where you know, um,
49:07
you know, I think you know, my my, one of the big
49:10
reasons I got into coaching was because, you know, the people that I
49:16
looked up to the most growing up were my coaches. Um, those were
49:22
the people that encouraged me. The men that encouraged me. They you know,
49:25
they gave me. You know, I had a great role model at
49:28
home and my dad, but they were also strong role models. You know,
49:34
they were honest with me. Um, they helped they made me,
49:37
you know, help me accountable. Um. You know, they they taught
49:42
you know, learned how to handle success and adversity, and uh, you
49:47
know, I think the game just did so much for me in terms of
49:52
helping develop as a as a band that I felt that I wanted to pass
49:58
that on and so, you know, the player relationship, the mentoring aspect
50:02
of football was a big part of why I wanted to coach I wanted to,
50:07
you know, I wanted to be that you know, I wanted to
50:12
be that person for someone else. And you know, I know someone's going
50:17
to ask, what's the difference between college and the in the NFL, and
50:22
which one's better? Which one do you like? You know, I think
50:24
they're both great. I think in college football you do have the opportunity to
50:30
make a bigger impact on a young man's life, and I think we're losing
50:37
a little bit of that because of the transfer portal and maybe the Niles and
50:45
those type of things. Well there you go, don Drubis, all right,
50:47
go ahead, Jeremy. The transfer portal and NIL are right on the
50:52
customer destroying the archic nonsense that is college football in a good way. But
50:58
it's also done some damn it to some smaller schools. So I see both
51:02
sides of that. But the reason why the NIL was put in, and
51:07
I'm gonna stress this, is because they lost all that money from EA Sports
51:12
because they didn't want to share it with the kids from those video games for
51:15
the college football and college baseball games. Those are due to come back now
51:20
within a year or two. So when that happens, that money is going
51:23
to go into a trust fund each kid's image and likeness that they get upon
51:29
graduation. Yeah, and I think before that, Yeah, and I think
51:35
the NI all the way it's written, I think it's a good thing.
51:37
I do. I think that. But again, anytime, whenever there's gray
51:43
area, you're gonna you know, you're gonna find people they're gonna try to
51:45
work in the gray to bend the rules. Yeah, they're scared it.
51:50
And so unfortunately that's what that's what's happening, you know. I mean,
51:54
you know some of the some of the dollar figures and stuff that are getting
51:59
thrown around for for somebody. You know, some of these kids who haven't
52:01
even played yet. You know, it's it's uh, it's my it's mind
52:07
boggling, it really is. And you know, again, I mean there's
52:10
got to be a happy meeting, you know, there's it's got to be
52:14
done the right way. You know, I think that. You know,
52:17
I think honestly, some people they're not cheating because it's not illegal. But
52:22
I mean when your whole drive to me, we should stop giving our athletic
52:28
scholarships. If you're gonna pay you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars and
52:32
what to you know, save them, don't let them, don't make the
52:36
schools waste the money on the scholarships. Just pay pay them and let them
52:39
pay their own school I've said that for years. I've said it for about
52:45
ten years. Ec. Eight o nine one. For my uh oh,
52:50
the kids, the college kids generate millions upon millions of dollars for these schools
52:54
programs, and they deserve their cup. I agree with that full Okay,
53:01
go ahead, Yeah, this is a buddy for my my channel. The
53:05
transfer portals sucks except for kickers. All right. I want to get to
53:10
a couple of interesting points. Those are pretty good, all right, coach,
53:15
I'm going to drop a couple of names out there for you, okay,
53:17
Mike Sherman, Tony Sprouno. What do they mean to you? Um?
53:22
You know, very like Mike Sherman might be the most principled person I've
53:30
ever met, you know, I mean, like just a you talked about
53:36
somebody who, like you know, walks the walk. I mean Mike Sherman
53:40
walk the walk. I mean, maybe one of the most one of the
53:45
more, probably the most underrated head coach that I worked for, because he
53:51
was a great head coach and great man to work for. He was.
53:53
He was a tremendous mentor to me. Man. When I was prepared from
54:00
my interviews, you know, to interview for the Central Michigan job, you
54:05
know, Coach Sherman spent hours with me, you know, because he had
54:07
done it. He'd been a head coach at the Green Bay and then he
54:12
went back and was a head coach at Texas A and M. And I
54:15
knew a lot of those questions were going to be you know, you've been
54:17
in the NFL for sixteen years now, you're coming back to college, you
54:22
know, or you know, how do you you know, you know,
54:25
how do you prepare for that? It's how what are the differences? And
54:30
and so you know, Coach Sherman actually, you know, gave me a
54:32
lot of really good advice in terms of navigating that. You know. Uh,
54:37
Tony Sprano, you know, God rest his souldiers, you know we
54:40
lost them too early. Um, just a phenomenal man. Um. You
54:45
know, great leader. Uh really really had a great command of the team's
54:52
pulse, you know, finger on the pulse of the team. And uh,
54:55
you know, probably didn't get as much as he deserved as a head
55:01
coach because we were all underneath the bill parcels of you know, umbrella,
55:07
but that you know, that was Tony's team. You know, Tony coached
55:10
the team and uh did a really good job with it. And you already
55:15
mentioned Sean Payton. So what's it feel like to be a Super Bowl champ?
55:19
It feels great. You know, it's like almost like you get that,
55:22
you know, you have a I think you have a monkey on your
55:25
back, you know, until you win one and then you know, but
55:30
then then it's like, okay, you want to you want that again?
55:35
You know, it's like, uh, you you you want to, you
55:38
want to you want to feel that again. And so it is like a
55:43
drug. But there's you know, to be able to say that, you
55:49
know, you were a world champion. There are very few people that get
55:52
to walk around say that, Yeah, yeah, you did it with Matt
55:54
Stafford. And you also did it with a kid here from Deerfield Beach and
55:59
Brandon Paul as well. Brandon Paul's a great kid. I as him a
56:04
couple of times. So I'll talk about Stafford, Brandon Paul BP. You
56:08
know, we had him in camp in Detroit. Actually didn't make our team.
56:12
Um, and uh, you know, I was just really happy to
56:16
see him get a break and stay and and you know, and contribute and
56:22
have a great year and and win Super Bowl. And a couple more questions.
56:27
I'm going to turn over to George and Jeremy. First of all,
56:30
Okay, what's top was your most rewarding oh Man, Again, you know,
56:37
not to dodge a question, but I'd say they're all rewarding and in
56:39
one way or another, because again we're talking about people. Uh, it's
56:44
not it's not the places. It's the people. You know, people that
56:49
you get to share with, and you know, the people that you helped
56:52
develop, and then the people that helped develop you. Right, you know
56:54
the people that you you know that you're teaching and mentoring, but you know
56:59
you're also he's learning and evolving yourself. And so you know, I've just
57:02
been very fortunate to be around a lot of really really good football lines,
57:07
but also good people. Fair answer, I no problem with that at all.
57:12
I Mean, reality is, there's a lot of people coach influencing your
57:15
life, regardless of where they're at what to do right Right, it just
57:21
looks like your victory tours a little bit more expensive than a lot of people.
57:23
That's all. I'm just kidding with you. But you know what I
57:25
mean. I mean, you know, all right, So let's go ahead
57:29
and talk about something that we alluded to earlier. How did you like playing
57:34
in Paw Paw Man? For me, it was awesome, you know it
57:39
was. It was high school football in Michigan and one other in Texas,
57:47
Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, shooting huh in Georgia, Ohio, Ohio.
57:57
Yeah, I mean those are they're great football states. If you're playing high
58:00
school football in one of those states, pretty good football, pretty good football.
58:04
All right. So tell me the coach that had the most influence on
58:07
you. My college coach, Herb Dramedy. Coach Dramedy just because you know,
58:15
he was always there for me really, you know, continues to mentor
58:20
me this day. You know, was fortunate enough to be around him even
58:25
you know. The last if you if you're asking me what I missed the
58:30
most about being the head coach at Central Michigan, the thing that I missed
58:35
the most is I don't get to see Coach Dramedy is often now, you
58:38
know, where as a head coach, I saw him, you know,
58:42
every week or you know, several times a week, and you know,
58:45
you'd come in and he'd sit in my office and we'd have we'd talk about
58:49
things, and um, you know, that relationship of player coach never changed
58:55
for for me, you know, even after I was a head coach.
59:00
So without a doubt, it's coach comedy, all right. So let's go
59:05
back. You said you collected your NFL pension and then enabled you to get
59:08
this current position at BSN Athletic Apparel. Tell me what it's like to now
59:13
only get your NFL pension on that you paid your dues to do it.
59:16
Now you're more of a settled down lifestyle in our state with those state income
59:21
tax life now knowing you got the pension, now you're working for BSN.
59:25
It's weird. I'm still adjusting the life after football, and I think my
59:30
wife's adjusting the life after football because you know, for the last twenty five
59:36
years that we've been together, you know, seven months out of the year
59:40
or eight months out of the year, I'm working seven days a week,
59:45
you know, with no breaks, and a lot of those days are you
59:50
know, fourteen sixteen, eighteen hour days. And now I'm home every day,
59:58
you know, so it's like I I just got to learn how to
1:00:00
stay the heck out of the way because this is this is her castle,
1:00:06
it's her domain. And so you know, all kidding aside, it's it's
1:00:09
nice. You know, it's nice to be you know, the uh you
1:00:15
you get used to the grind and coaching, you know, uh, the
1:00:21
day in day out. You know, it's it's it's it's never boring.
1:00:25
Um, it's hard to find that same. It's it's hard to find that
1:00:31
in like every day you know, everyday life, regular life. But but
1:00:37
you know, luckily, you know, I'm on the water. You know,
1:00:39
I've got kayaks, I got paddle boards, I got surfboards, I
1:00:44
got a pool, I got a boat. So I've got you know,
1:00:49
we've got some other things that can we can do to occupy our time.
1:00:52
I love to grill out, you know. So I probably gained about ten
1:00:57
pounds since I quit coaching. But you know what, I'm about to get
1:01:00
a few gray hairs because of Don Drubis. So you know what, I
1:01:04
gotta put these comments up and I'm going back to back with them. All
1:01:07
right, let's initially talk about the nil. Okay, Jeremy read it and
1:01:12
then I'm gonna and coach, you're gonna love the next one. And if
1:01:15
Drubis plays his cards right, and yes, d Rubis, if you play
1:01:20
your cards right, then I'll mention this on the next after we get done
1:01:23
here, So go ahead, Jeremy. Nil also saved Alabama from what should
1:01:28
have been the harshest sanctioning since the SMU death penalty. It's not wrong.
1:01:37
I don't know when they coach no comment, that's smart. All right,
1:01:43
Well I'll let you comment on this one though. All right, this is
1:01:46
one here where you've all right, don de Rubis, go ahead, Jeremy,
1:01:50
I want you to translate this whole situation in scenario Scott Morgan Ross,
1:01:54
if you don't get John back on for an episode of Fire Up, you
1:02:00
would be remissed. And he puts a laughy cat base because he's a cat
1:02:04
guy. Yeah, well, hey, John is a safe. We're gonna
1:02:08
have a lot of fun doing more of these broadcasts or what sure? Absolutely
1:02:12
anytime, I'm game anytime. Oh yeah, there you go, don Okay,
1:02:16
so stay tuned. John is anything but a one and John all right.
1:02:23
That said, I'm gonna turn over to Jeremy George and you know I've
1:02:29
kind of you guys have been very patient. So go ahead, and Jeremy,
1:02:31
you can throw a few questions in George, iicorn can do. And
1:02:35
by the way, just so you know, coach, Okay, George actually
1:02:37
is an author and he's gonna tell you a little bit about it. I'm
1:02:40
gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna send Jeremy one of these best I'll take one.
1:02:47
That being said, Uh, coach, So you got to coach,
1:02:52
uh with any players? Um, while you were in coach at Central Michigan.
1:02:58
Tell me what it was like working with Rush Cooper is phenomenal. Cooper
1:03:01
is like a coach on the field. Um, you know, just an
1:03:09
outstanding person, outstanding player and just really really really proud of him, really
1:03:17
happy for him. You know, the success that he's had, uh and
1:03:22
hasn't been easy. I mean he's undrafted, right, He's an undrafted guide
1:03:27
He's going into his what sixth year in the league. You know, that's
1:03:31
that's hard to do. That's really hard to do, especially at that position.
1:03:36
So and and and when you know when he's gotten his opportunities, man,
1:03:40
he's he's done what those of us who know him, Uh, knew
1:03:45
he would do it, wasn't you know? People ask me, am I
1:03:50
surprised? No, I'm not. I'm not surprised at all, because I
1:03:54
just know how intelligent he is. I know his skill set, and I
1:03:59
know how hard he works, and you know, he's just doing the things
1:04:05
that he's always done. He's got a great process, tremendous work ethic,
1:04:11
and you know, just really really proud of Coop. And not only is
1:04:15
he a great player, he's you know, he's got a young family doing
1:04:17
a great job as a husband and a dad too, and those are those
1:04:20
are really important things. I love this one for rush class, a lot
1:04:25
less per wind than Ring Dakota. George getting all for money, George.
1:04:33
All right, that's all right, George. I'm go ahead. I'll coach
1:04:38
a lot of set about coaching trees, Okay, Mike Shoela's coaching tree,
1:04:43
Bill Parcel's coaching tree, and a fella that I think it's kicked in the
1:04:45
butt always and a good man and a Hall of famer, Bill Belichick.
1:04:50
I want to ask you about that. What is that true about coaching trees
1:04:56
and some not being good and some not. I know it's hard for you
1:04:59
to comment, You've got so many coaches that you work, you would yeah,
1:05:04
well you would say Bill Belichick's off of you know, he's part of
1:05:09
that Bill Parcels tree. Yah, is that's who brought I mean, you
1:05:13
know he played, he he coached for parcels. Tom Coughlin's on the parcels
1:05:17
tree. Um. Shoot, Sean Payton's on the Bill Parcels Tree. You
1:05:24
know, Tony Sparano was on the Bill Parcels Tree. Um. You know,
1:05:29
Mike Sherman was on the Mike Holmgren Tree. You know, which would
1:05:32
be the Bill wallsh tree. Right. So, uh yeah, I mean
1:05:38
they're real, right, they're real because, you know, the the thing
1:05:43
that you can't manufacture in any businesses experience. You know, and you prepare
1:05:48
and you study and you work and you you know, that's why opportunity is
1:05:54
so precious, right, because that's the only way you get experiences by have
1:05:59
you know, someone, someone deems you worthy of an opportunity and gives you
1:06:04
that gift, and then you know, you try your best not to screw
1:06:09
it up, you know. So, but man, you know, you
1:06:15
could make an argument that you know that Belichicks probably clips parcelves now you know,
1:06:21
in terms of but but I would I would. I would think that
1:06:25
Bill would probably, you know, coach Belichick would probably give a lot of
1:06:29
credit to UM to build parselves. All right, this one? And Georgia?
1:06:36
Was that a word? Salad? I got up a coach. I'm
1:06:42
on Scott's coaching tree. He's my mentor, is what he follows up with?
1:06:46
Yeah? And god was Vogel? He's he was a work in progress
1:06:51
the beginning. But this guy has come a long way, coach, I'm
1:06:55
telling you he is. I've got a lot of guys in my tree,
1:06:58
but Will Vogel's progressive quick all right? And now there's another one here from
1:07:02
Tom got one of ms umbilieable sense of humors I've ever seen. Ella cheats.
1:07:06
Coaching treat does not exist. It's a few broken twigs. Proximity to
1:07:11
greatness does not equal greatness, as Patrasha, I mean, Patricia, listen,
1:07:16
coach, you don't want to tell you something. Here, here's a
1:07:18
rule. You don't have to comment everything. If you decide to laugh,
1:07:21
it's okay because you know what you know, this is what pays the bills.
1:07:26
When we got people like this and here talking about it. I doubt
1:07:30
that Bill cares. Hey coach, I'll tell you what we wanted to want
1:07:35
to know how that guy found me over there, Scott. I commented on
1:07:40
his inside the Pigskin one night and they brought up Matt Patrasha And that's what
1:07:45
I've called him that since day one, with that whole New York Jet Monday
1:07:49
night football home opener. Yes, and he said, I gotta talk to
1:07:57
this guy. He kept saying that the whole show because I kept giving good
1:08:00
comments. Yeah. Well not only that, though, you want to know
1:08:03
some coach you talking about coaching threes. You know, I won't mention the
1:08:09
name of the network, but I got removed from a group because the guy
1:08:14
that was running it thought I was going to take all of his talents,
1:08:16
and I said, I committed Grand Larsen. He's snapping up smoking here And
1:08:19
that was the end of my tended group. So, you know what,
1:08:24
no disrespect of that organization. There aren't many people that would crack our line
1:08:28
up anyway, but this guy here, ball Rick, he knowly cracked it.
1:08:31
He smashed it open. You know, I want personality, COURAGEBA,
1:08:36
you know that kind of stuff. You know you've gone with how many different
1:08:40
personalities? Don't you been around a lot of them? That's my point.
1:08:45
Thanks. You know the one thing you have to learn no coach GMT.
1:08:47
You know what that stands for, No great minds think of light like okay,
1:08:54
okay, So that'll be one of the things I bring up from time
1:08:57
to time. Also on our early edition of it, I had the pigskin.
1:09:00
Okay, Melfire Junior. You ever heard of Senior? Sure? Well,
1:09:04
I have his son. Melfire Junior is my co host. So I
1:09:08
told Mel that I'm bringing you on and you and Mel are going to be
1:09:11
on some shows together. Buddy, I got news for you. He's looking
1:09:14
forward to it. I mean, hey, this is what it's all about,
1:09:16
you know, Lee, building relationships in and out of the organization.
1:09:20
We come back, we have fun, and people can't have fun interacting with
1:09:24
each other. I've done a horrible job selecting the talent. So, George,
1:09:30
okay, you talked about coaching Tree. I'm sure you got another question
1:09:32
or two lined up. Well, the other one I wanted to ask you
1:09:35
about, coach is the decision to send a bowl A team to a bowl
1:09:40
game at Central Michigan. You know we've got this Bowl in Detroit, the
1:09:45
Motor City Ball It's had different names over the years, and I know how
1:09:48
excited they are here when Central Michigan or even Western you know, is picked
1:09:55
to play in Detroit. But from a coaching standpoint and from an athletics endpoint,
1:10:00
would the team be better off trying to go to an out of town
1:10:03
bowl game or are they very happy when let's say Detroit would pick them for
1:10:08
the for the Bowl at Ford Field. Well, to me, it was
1:10:12
a win win And I'll say this, okay, I called it maconomics,
1:10:17
all right. The Mid American Conference doesn't have the money that the Big Ten
1:10:23
has or the SEC. So you know, if financially it's a much better
1:10:30
deal to take a bus down to Detroit that it does to charter a plane
1:10:33
and go somewhere else and play. Not only that is, you know,
1:10:38
the the majority of our players were from the state of Michigan, and so
1:10:44
a bowl plane, a bowl game in Detroit was like adding another home game
1:10:48
for us, you know. Man, Yeah, that was my first year,
1:10:54
so I didn't have a lot to compare it to. But looking back,
1:10:58
the you know, the Quick Laying Bowl, which it was when we
1:11:01
went, those people did a fantastic job with everything, um, just the
1:11:10
accommodations where we stayed, the activities. You wouldn't think there's that many great,
1:11:15
great things. There was a there was a ton of activities we did,
1:11:18
you know through the Bowl game that you know, the kids had a
1:11:23
blast. Um their families, you know, their families could all afford to
1:11:29
go there and be at the game. We had a great turnout for the
1:11:30
game. We sold a bunch of tea. I mean, you know,
1:11:35
yeah, you'd like to. Yeah, everybody wants to go to some exotic,
1:11:42
you know location, but you know you're you're in Detroit, but you're
1:11:46
also getting to play in the dome. You're playing indoors, a control of
1:11:50
environment. It's you know, I really you know, for Central Michigan,
1:11:55
it was. I would have someone said, you're gonna go to bowl games
1:11:58
the next five years. I guarantee you can go to a bowl game,
1:12:01
but you're gonna have to go to the Quick Claim Bowl. I would take
1:12:05
that deal for and do backflips. I'd be the ecstatic for it. It
1:12:13
was. It was a great experience, you know for you Well, let
1:12:15
me tell you this, Coach Georgie and I had an opportunity to attend a
1:12:18
Central Michigan Florida Atlantic University get poll game there and it was pretty neat.
1:12:24
I'm sorry to disappoint you. I was covering FAU, so I felt like
1:12:29
a visitor that day. But you know, I have to you know,
1:12:31
you know what it's like. Your allegiances are to the one that sure,
1:12:36
so I have to tell what's that allegiance as to whoever signs that check exactly.
1:12:45
And you know the amazing part about that situation, I believe that was
1:12:48
a game when I covered the game fa Used basketball team took on Kentucky.
1:12:56
So I took out that game and then the FAU Kentucky game in Lexington and
1:13:00
back to back days. Faust plane got stuck on the runaway and all that
1:13:05
fog and I had to stop in the rest area. Luckily I was able
1:13:09
to make it back to Lexington and back. You know, i'd safe to
1:13:12
say one of my days in Detroit, I slept the whole day. But
1:13:15
you know, but you're right. I mean it felt weird for me though,
1:13:18
being a road guy with Florida Atlantic, so I know where my allegiances
1:13:23
were with worth the Owl and my home state and Georgia. Was that right
1:13:28
there with me? Right, George, wasn't it pretty crazy or what?
1:13:31
Yeah? I remember you went to the basketball game afterwards on the way back.
1:13:34
Yeah, but it was a great event. It was a great event.
1:13:39
And you're right, coach, they do a real nice job here and
1:13:42
Detroit with the quick lane ball. Phenomenal job. So let's go a little
1:13:46
bit more in the chat room. I know, coach, were keeping a
1:13:48
little bit longer, but hey, we're on a roll with these people and
1:13:51
they pay our bills, so we got to go out there. Dom de
1:13:54
Rubis, all right, let's see what's he talking about. Now, that's
1:13:57
a great idea to get directional slow from a bowl game wherever possible. That's
1:14:01
I guess you concur with that, right sure? Okay, all right,
1:14:05
Dom, we got that one. Now. He talks about his time when
1:14:09
he went in nineteen ninety seven when they had the inaugural Motor City Bowl ninety
1:14:14
seven. Marshall and Randy Miss. Yeah, he wants he's a little on
1:14:21
the sarcastic size. He knows that he's a versus duce McAllister. Okay,
1:14:26
So yeah, as you get to know Dom de Rubis, you know the
1:14:30
one thing about him is he's a very sarcastic but entertaining individual. All right,
1:14:34
let's see what else I got up here. All right, let's see
1:14:36
you. All right, Well, here's one here that will make a lot
1:14:41
of people have I sorry, coach, it isn't it is man, we
1:14:44
should have hired Patrician still call Walts, just so the Quintricia era would be
1:14:49
further in the rear view. I'm not sure how to make on out done
1:14:55
that. I know exactly what he's talking about, because Gee, Brady wrote
1:15:00
an article in twenty eighteen about the assistant coach that no one was interviewing,
1:15:04
and it was Dan Campbell and all the reasons why he'd have been a good
1:15:10
coach for Detroit in twenty eighteen. Now, this guy wait till they hire
1:15:15
him in twenty twenty, turns around and flips the script, reverses it and
1:15:20
says that's why they shouldn't hired Caldwell for still writing for ESPN at the same
1:15:26
time. All right, I will say this, though, I think Jim
1:15:35
Caldwell's like one of the finest people that I've ever had the privilege to be
1:15:41
around, and it literally breaks my heart day he's not a head coach.
1:15:46
He's a phenomenal, phenomenal person and called well like he was so good to
1:15:56
me when I got the central job. I don't know, I think he
1:16:00
was almost as excited as as I was, because it was something we had
1:16:03
talked about, you know, we had you know, you know, he
1:16:08
met with every every coach on the staff. What are your you know,
1:16:12
what are your goals? What are your you know? What do you you
1:16:14
know? Where do you see yourself five years from now? Ten years?
1:16:16
I've never had another NFL head coach that I worked with, you know,
1:16:21
uh do that you know? And and so for that reason, you know,
1:16:27
Coach Carlos is still a great mentor to me, but he is you
1:16:32
know, you talk about you know, minority coaches getting a shot. I
1:16:38
mean, I'm I'm disappointed that that Jim Carlo hasn't gotten another opportunity after Detroit,
1:16:45
because in hindsight, he did a pretty damn good job. You know,
1:16:49
I agree. I don't think argument here. It's you know, one
1:16:55
of the best regular season coaches we ever had. Four enough they vote on
1:17:00
this one, so you know, what is it? Majority and animals?
1:17:03
I don't know what the word is for Afford or nothing? What is that?
1:17:06
But yeah, I do remember the last year we made the playoffs,
1:17:12
and I'm not saying it was all his fault, but due to some poor
1:17:14
play calling that we had to have Matt Stafford pail us out with eight comeback
1:17:18
wins, yeah out of nine. I mean, well, well, you
1:17:26
talk about Stafford real quickly, coach. But let's go back to a wild
1:17:29
wild will comment. I'll go ahead read this one to Jeremy, coach,
1:17:33
You're on a great program with some amazing gentlemen who are all mentors to me.
1:17:38
Well, thank you? Well, yeah, that was really nice.
1:17:40
So again we're in a situation where I should have renamed the mentors over mentors.
1:17:44
But all right, let's go back to Matthew Stafford for a moment.
1:17:46
What was he like, coach? Final? Okay, overalls, you know,
1:17:51
did he accept you give him any advice or anything or what? No,
1:17:56
you don't have to be tough, all right, smart uh, tremendous
1:18:01
teammate. You know, like the guys in the locker room love Matt Stafford
1:18:05
because Matt Stafford's easy to love. He's you know, he doesn't have an
1:18:11
ego. He treats everybody the same. You know, he in Detroit,
1:18:14
he would always have like a you'd have a you know, he'd have a
1:18:17
couple events. He'd have like a poker night at you know, a poker
1:18:21
night at his house after training camp and he bite all the players over and
1:18:27
I mean he was the house and then he had he was his Halloween parties
1:18:32
I think were pretty famous or from us. But it didn't matter if if
1:18:38
if a player had just joined the team that week and was on the practice
1:18:44
squad, you know, Matt was going to make sure that, you know,
1:18:48
if he had something going on, that that that player was going to
1:18:51
get over there and that he was going to be welcome, you know,
1:18:56
just like you know somebody that he had played for the last six years.
1:19:00
You know. Uh, you know Matt's uh, he's he's he's a winner,
1:19:05
you know, he really is. And uh. I just always admired
1:19:09
his his toughness, his physical toughness, his ability to to play through through
1:19:15
pain, which he did quite a bit, um maybe more so than he
1:19:20
let on and more than a lot of people would know. Yeah, his
1:19:25
wife, Kelly seems like a pretty nice lady too, doesn't She a little
1:19:30
outspoken for me just did you But did you get to know Kelly just casually,
1:19:41
just hello and stuff? She was very gracious to me and my wife,
1:19:45
My wife and I. So that's all right, Hey, listen,
1:19:47
you know what, coach I got news for you. We always know our
1:19:50
first show's gonna be a little bit longer than most because after all coaches are
1:19:56
coming out. Parties said, I want to go back because we did miss
1:20:02
one comment from Dom that he asked him go ahead when you were coaching here
1:20:06
that first time between Schwartz and Caldwell. Wasn't that the same year we had
1:20:11
Jeremy Ross returning kids. Yeah, yeah, I love Jeremy yep. And
1:20:15
I remember he went to the AAF for a minute too, didn't he that
1:20:19
little league though? Yeah? He was playing for the team that was winning
1:20:23
it all because he was returning gigs for them too. What did you say
1:20:28
that AAF, the one that broke up after five games? Oh? I
1:20:32
thought you beout Arena Football League when you say no Allegiance Football. I don't
1:20:40
even remember it, don't even remember it. A coach's funny how he brings
1:20:44
it up, though, And let's go to Dom's comment. But Jeremy brings
1:20:47
up an interesting point. Okay, well go ahead. Why don't you go
1:20:50
ahead and ring that, Jeremy, because now you got me intrigued about something.
1:20:54
Go ahead, Jeremy. Matt Stafford should have been the next rep fire
1:20:57
for John Elway, but all the missteps by the front office, constant turnover
1:21:00
with coordinators minimize him. He's absolutely right in his tenure. I think he
1:21:04
had ten different offensive coordinators in four different coaches, and that's a lot.
1:21:13
That's a lot for a quarterback to overcome. And then one of those was,
1:21:16
ah, the ghost of Vince Lombardi, his kid. H Yeah,
1:21:24
I think yeah, I think that was Vince Lombardi getting in his head from
1:21:28
behind the graves and sabotage this guy. It's funny, all right. So
1:21:33
now Jeremy brings up the AA. But now we have the USFL, the
1:21:38
XFL, and the Canadian Football League somewhere along the lines here. I don't
1:21:43
know if you ever dating with the Canadian Football League, but now there's more
1:21:46
leagues popping up. But you're not really associated with any of these other leagues
1:21:50
outside colleges, you know. I mean, I had I had my opportunities
1:21:55
to go to the XFL and the USFL, but it just wasn't the right
1:22:00
opportunity or the right situation for myself and my family, and so I had
1:22:05
to politely, you know, decline. But I mean I think it's great
1:22:12
because you know, I just give gives more more players an opportunity to play.
1:22:16
Um, it's another proving ground. And the same thing with you know,
1:22:21
with a lot of the coaches. One of my one of my guys
1:22:26
that I really care about Reggie Barlow, head coach for the the DC Defenders
1:22:32
in the XFL. Reggie's done a great job. And you know, I
1:22:36
coached Reggie as a player in Jacksonville who was our punt and kick returner,
1:22:41
and then I've always stayed in touch with him, uh, and you know,
1:22:45
I've been a bit of a mentor to him as he kind of transitioned
1:22:48
from playing into coaching, and so, uh, just really happy for a
1:22:54
guy that's really kind of been bouncing around at the HBC level but whom I've
1:23:00
always thought was a really good coach and deserved a shot. And I was
1:23:02
just really happy to see him get a job in the XFL as a head
1:23:08
coach and watch him do really well, which I knew he would, and
1:23:13
I makes just and excited to see what's in his future, you know,
1:23:16
down the road, because I just really think a lot of Reggie as a
1:23:19
as a human being, and it also as a as a as a coach.
1:23:25
Well, when you talk about your wife not wanting to go to cold
1:23:28
climates, could you ever have imagined her in the Canadian Football League? No?
1:23:33
No, I had to mention that. You know, I won't even
1:23:38
ask you what that game, but I will save it for later. But
1:23:40
Don de Rubis, well, you know what, I had to put this
1:23:43
one up too, keep the show going long as he's saying, go coach
1:23:45
on, at least you're retired. I'll have to feel too bad about a
1:23:48
bed time, I hope. Okay, but here you go. Jeremy Stafford
1:23:53
probably won't up playing long enough to pass Marino's career numbers, but he would
1:23:57
have easily, and he's got a ring. But he'll never get mentioned in
1:24:00
the same breath with Marino Marino? How me head coaches two? Yeah,
1:24:08
Shula and Jimmy Johnson. Right, so let me ask you a question about
1:24:14
that. I'm glad Don brought it up. I've always wondered about this and
1:24:16
now I think you're the right guy to do it. Okay, we all
1:24:19
know that Don Shula and I worked with them, actually, coach I work
1:24:24
with the Lions, the Jaguars, and the Dolphins back in the early eighties,
1:24:28
okay, and I got to know Coach Chula a little bit and they
1:24:30
taught me some things. Coaches, So what's so good about coaches too?
1:24:33
That people don't understand? And just because we're writers doesn't mean us younger guys
1:24:38
can't pick their brain about what it's like to be successful. And I've done
1:24:41
that a lot of times. Because we're human beings. Coaches are designed to
1:24:45
really mentor and give advice. I don't care if you're playing it or not.
1:24:48
Shula is good about that. But do you think toward the end,
1:24:53
okay, that Marino might have been a little bit too selfish about numbers when
1:24:57
Jimmy Johnson tried to go out there have a balanced running attack because he knew
1:25:00
the ticket to winning a Super Bowl, as he did a couple of times
1:25:04
with the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, let's face the reality. You know,
1:25:09
Dan Marino had a lot of good receivers. He really really did,
1:25:12
Mark Cooper, Mark Clayton, and the list goes on and Nat Moore and
1:25:15
I was down there for a lot of that. But then Jimmy Johnson,
1:25:18
there's a guy that likes to balance. So what are your thoughts about the
1:25:21
way Marino handled things? His approach, And of course I'll mentioned I don't
1:25:25
have a super Bowl right man, and too many concussions and it was too
1:25:30
long ago. I don't remember any of that shit, Scott. You know,
1:25:38
I wish I had a few concussions. I don't have to memorize it
1:25:40
because I have to do it in our neck of the woods. Okay,
1:25:43
but you know what, No, I'm not asking it to downplay. Yeah,
1:25:46
I really, I really couldn't come. I don't feel like i'm in
1:25:49
I can't comment on that. I don't. I don't know. I know,
1:25:54
and I could appreciate that. But is it is it common or not
1:25:57
common? Okay, forget let's take Marino the question, or sometimes quarterback sacrifice
1:26:01
numbers are not for the actual balance attack and that may hinder their ability to
1:26:06
get super bow. We'll take Marino out of the whole thing. Man.
1:26:11
To me, it's like I wouldn't say I haven't been many I've been fortunate.
1:26:17
I've been around some good ones like like Farve Uh, Mark Brunell,
1:26:24
uh, Drew Brees, Chad Pennington, Matt Stafford shoot Man. Yeah,
1:26:32
yeah, I had to go there. You know, great, great players
1:26:39
want to win, you know. I mean that's that's I think the frustration
1:26:43
with that. You see when most players come out and a lot of times
1:26:46
it gets labeled as selfishness or you know, it's it's on teams that aren't
1:26:54
winning, and those players feel like maybe they're not being utilized or they're not
1:26:59
getting opportunity. Is that because they because they want to win? You know?
1:27:04
Uh Rarely I would say, you know, the guys that are are
1:27:10
doing it to try to those guys, We're not talking about those guys typically
1:27:15
because they don't last very long. You know that they just you know,
1:27:19
if if someone's that flawed in their character and they're eventually you know, when
1:27:28
a talent levels offers, you know, your your tolerance for that as a
1:27:32
coach or as an organization, you know, is very little, you know,
1:27:38
unless it's like an example of a player that's whose talent is just above
1:27:43
and beyond I was. I can honestly say that because of the head coaches
1:27:47
that I worked for. I would not expose to very much of that stuff
1:27:53
at all, you know, because Tom Coughlin, Mike Sherman, I'll go
1:27:58
right down the line, you know, Sean Payton, those guys are those
1:28:02
guys are all coming, you know, from backgrounds where they just don't they
1:28:09
don't tolerate it. It's not you know, I mean Sean, every one
1:28:14
of those guys that I just mentioned, they would find any whatever whoever the
1:28:18
player was. They didn't care was gonna get fined if they were late or
1:28:23
something like that, and they always find the maximum. And the reason the
1:28:28
reason they were finding the maximum is, you know, because they didn't want
1:28:33
any gray area and there was no you know, should I remember, you
1:28:39
know, Sean Payton used to would start every team meeting with order of the
1:28:43
day, and he would read off the fines if they were any of that
1:28:45
day. And it wasn't in any way to break the player. It wasn't
1:28:50
like telling you what was for lunch in the cafeteria that day. Okay,
1:28:57
So I mean Drew Brees miss meal three thousand dollars. All right, Today's
1:29:01
emphasis is the red zone. We've got to do a great shop I mean,
1:29:04
it was that quick. But man, you're sitting in that room and
1:29:11
you're trying to make the roster and you just find you just heard that Drew
1:29:15
Brees got fined. You better not miss I better not be late. You
1:29:18
know, if he's gonna find that guy, then I better make sure that
1:29:24
that I'm there, you know, I mean, Mike Sherman. If someone
1:29:28
was late for a meeting and you didn't turn it in, you might get
1:29:30
fired. Wow, you might get fired. All right, what we're gonna
1:29:35
do is we're gonna go ahead and put three more of Dom's comments. We're
1:29:39
gonna wrap it up tonight. Coach, Thank you very much for being so
1:29:42
generous of your time to night. I'm sure that a lot of our shows
1:29:45
going forward won't be nearly this long, but I view this as your first
1:29:47
opportunity to get out and people get to know you. And obviously, like
1:29:50
you mentioned, we're looking forward to have you on more on more podcasts as
1:29:55
time goes on. So we're just gonna mention him real quickly and then we're
1:29:58
gonna call it a night. So all right, well, all right here,
1:30:00
Dan Reno's the most fourth most over your fourth Hall of Fame quarterback off
1:30:04
of all time. He named Bradshaw and eighth Man. I don't know what
1:30:09
cool aid you're drinking there. I don't know I know what exactly he's talking
1:30:13
about. Look at their regular season total career numbers and a regular season they
1:30:17
weren't that big flashing of numbers from Hall of Fame QBS. Okay, well,
1:30:25
now we have Jeremy bs don Drew Bis automatic translator. Coaches can act
1:30:30
with any way you want to, all right, because you're giving everybody out
1:30:33
here a great football education and that's really important. Thanks coach. A lot
1:30:38
of people I guarantee of stadium long enough because they want to learn go have.
1:30:42
However, selfish Marino may have been about his numbers Aaron Rodgers the last
1:30:45
few years. Far from that. Don, You don't have any opinions.
1:30:51
I can tell you that the fact that Farvin Rodgers only have two rings between
1:30:58
them is simultaneously said hilariousn't pathetic? All right, Well, there you go.
1:31:02
You definitely have run across one of the most opinionated guy. But Dom
1:31:06
it's okay. I mean he's good. People keep it coming down. Hey,
1:31:11
hey, George, if you have to leave coaches there just to hang
1:31:14
in there. Now, I'm just kidding with you, because you only have
1:31:15
a book to If you want to leave without promoting the book, that's entirely
1:31:18
up to you, George. Okay, but you know we will wrap it
1:31:21
up anyways at some point. And of course thanks for the kind words.
1:31:28
Oh what a blast, coach. How are you having a good time tonight?
1:31:30
Or why I'm not a blast? Thank you very much. I'm really
1:31:33
enjoying it well, gentlemen. So with that said, let me go over
1:31:39
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1:32:32
can live with this one. Not too controversial, right, Lions and Lion
1:32:39
King from my channel comes in and says, I heard we passed on Marino.
1:32:45
Well, so did a lot of other teams, So you're right,
1:32:48
and that's why one was The one that I mentioned earlier is that we passed
1:32:55
on Randy Moss for Terry Fair. That worked. Oh great, didn't it?
1:33:00
Yeah? All right, Well we'll leave it at that because we know
1:33:02
George Eichorn's approaching his bedtimes. So should we let you promote your book book
1:33:09
first? George? Do you want to wait till the very end? We
1:33:13
can promote it. That's a book I wrote. Coach called Detroit Sports Broadcasters
1:33:16
on the air. A couple of year buddies are in their coach. Okay,
1:33:20
I'll give you some names, Mark Champion, Frank Beckman, Jim Brandstadter,
1:33:25
Dan Miller, uh I go back to Van. I go back to
1:33:28
Van Patrick and Bob Reynolds, two of the great announcers that did Lions football.
1:33:31
Forward down the field with these guys. And the book is available.
1:33:35
There's a link at the end of my column on the Motor City Tribune page
1:33:40
for the book. But yeah, I had a lot of fun doing that
1:33:43
and going back in the football days those old broadcasters. Man you did,
1:33:49
Yeah it is. It was a lot of fun. And Scott's in the
1:33:53
book too, but now now with football, he's in for tennis and boxing.
1:33:58
Mohamma Ali and Jimmy Connors. Coach, when you think, wow,
1:34:01
don't worry. We get together a Palm Coast and Daytona wherever you want to
1:34:04
meet. I got a good picture. Let's to show you, coach.
1:34:10
Don't worry. Hey, I got this guy in Florida. I'm gonna have
1:34:14
him and I are gonna be old buddies up on me. What do we
1:34:16
call ourselves a treasure coast? Is that what we call ourselves? Coach Space
1:34:20
coast? Oh yeah, well whatever space goes on, Treasure Coast? Yeah,
1:34:26
because Saint Augustine, right, Yeah, I guess I don't even know.
1:34:30
I mean, yeah, I don't know. All I know is we're
1:34:31
off the Atlantic Ocean. Whatever else, Coach you want to call it,
1:34:34
it is all right, Jeremy, go ahead. Well, you can find
1:34:39
me on the South Border Tribute. I'm right underneath George Eichorn there for the
1:34:43
Motor City Tribute, right right about lo and behold the Detroit Lions. And
1:34:47
then you can also find me right here on this channel any day of the
1:34:50
week that Scott needs me. It was twas tonight. You may even need
1:34:54
me tomorrow and the next day too. I don't know, but I'll do
1:34:57
it. Then you can find me on my YouTube channel, which is kneecat
1:35:00
Biting Smoking Jeremy b. You can also find me on Facebook at MotorCity Niecat
1:35:03
Bitters, and you can find me on Twitter at book and Jeremy. Oh,
1:35:09
coach, guess what. We put it all out there? You want
1:35:12
to you want to mention anything else about where they can locate you. You
1:35:15
just want to be retired out in. I am proud to say that I
1:35:18
am on zero storms and social media. That's my choice other than LinkedIn,
1:35:26
you know, because for professional reasons. But shoot, uh, find you
1:35:31
find me on this show. You know what? I got news for you.
1:35:35
I'm glad you brought that up though, Coach. That's how I did
1:35:38
contact Coach Bano anyways, on LinkedIn as well, and obviously and you know
1:35:43
what, well, let's put it this way. You're on the Sports of
1:35:45
Change. You're gonna be on inside the Pigskin. We're gonna put you everywhere.
1:35:49
Fire up, Michigan. You got to chase it. What you're in
1:35:53
for? Can you handle it? Coach? Oh? Yeah, this is
1:35:57
one last thing I want to do. Special shout out to Kenny Eveling does
1:36:00
an unbelievable job keeping everything up there on our website www. Dot seth for
1:36:03
the Tribune dot com. So, but that said, I hope you've enjoyed
1:36:08
this broadcast with Coach Bano his first act, and obviously we're looking for a
1:36:13
lot more of them. You talk about a hit and a guy with a
1:36:15
who's a traveling man. I can tell you one thing that we do have
1:36:19
to look forward to though, Coach, and I mentioned this at the top
1:36:23
of the show, you and I will do a one on one interview soon
1:36:27
enough about your being a cancer survivor. That's something I want to do.
1:36:30
I feel it's something we need to do, and we'll have a lot more
1:36:32
of football talk, obviously a little bit shorter with different guests, but we
1:36:36
just want to make sure that as we went longer a little bit this first
1:36:40
time, that we wanted everybody to know who John Bottomingo is and so they
1:36:44
had a good background so they know what who we're going to be talking about
1:36:47
down the line. So coach, like I said, you know what,
1:36:50
you have a new team and we're proud istact to have you on it.
1:36:54
Really thank you for having me, gentlemen. I really appreciate it, and
1:36:58
it's it's been an honor and a privilege. Well, that's great and I'm
1:37:01
looking forward to seeing you up in Palm Coast and Daytona Beach. Partner.
1:37:06
We got a lot of a lot of projects to this on behalf of George
1:37:11
Korn coach Bano and Smoking Jury. Me being my name is Scott Morgan Roth,
1:37:15
the Motor City Madmouth coach. Okay, just say you know, thank
1:37:19
you for joining us on this edition of the Sports Exchange and we will catch
1:37:24
you the next time. Everybody. Thank you very much for everybody that went
1:37:28
out there and participated in the chat room. As Dick Vitel would say,
1:37:31
you're an awesome baby. Catch you the next time.