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Bridging Generational Gaps · The Volume Shift

• Deion: Peace and love, family. Welcome back to the volume shift, where we don't just talk louder, we shift the frequency, understanding actually lands. Urban Activist: And today we diving into something that hits ⁓ every every block, every barber shop, every cookout, the disconnect between the young and the older generations in urban communities. Deion: Same streets, different mindsets. Urban Activist: same struggles, different perspectives. Deion: And somewhere in the middle of all that communication got lost. Urban Activist: This ain't about blaming the older generation. And it ain't about saying the younger generation got it all figured out. Deion: It's about figuring that out while we talk past each other. And we really should be building with each other. Urban Activist: Because when the wisdom of the elders don't connect with the energy of the youth, the whole community suffer. Deion: So today we bridging that gap. Unbuck doctors, the doctor without the doctor. Urban Activist: I'm Jahlil Urban Activist, AKA The Blacktivist. I'm Deion: How you feeling? Urban Activist: ⁓ man, trying to recharge my battery, bro. Like, day it been living, well this week it been a whole lot of back and forth, here and there, trying this and that. But you know, happy to be back and happy to be black. Deion: Yeah, that's what it is. We got a good one today though, Urban Activist: EAR Deion: You know, officially like we really want to have like youth upon us, you know what saying? To, um, not really give a defense, like just had a conversation, you know what saying? But today we're going to set the stage or make up the table, you know what I'm saying? For them to come sit down, you know what mean? And get into like. know, bridging the gap between the older folks and younger folks. Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Deion: You know, we all come from like the same neighborhoods, you know what saying? But like different eras. You feel what I'm saying? Urban Activist: It's saying blocks different mindsets. Just to show that love is there but communication is missing. Deion: Yeah. And I say, like, you know. What you was saying? ⁓ yeah, so you know, to set it, you know what saying? We're getting to like... ⁓ When you first notice, like, it was even a thing between, like, you know, older and younger generations of people. Urban Activist: And I noticed that the older people and the younger people wasn't seeing eye to eye. It's when I look around, man. You can see it at social media. You can see it in the neighborhood. It's like, I don't know. It's a blankness between the two groups. You feel me? Now don't get me wrong, there's some youngins that interact and mingle with old heads and vice versa. But it's like the understanding part is kind of off. Because when I had conversations with some of my old heads, like most of the things they always start off with, man, these young boys, man, they out of control. you know, they do this and they do that. And that's the reason for all the violence in the job. But then when I talk to the youngins, it's just like, it's a misdirection. It ain't nobody around that really know, school them to like how you should be moving on etiquette and like how you should be like a good neighbor and like somebody that you should be looking up to, looking up as like in your community, bro. Like that's thorough. But at the same time, it's like if nobody was there to teach you, how would you know? So like that's really how I see it. Like most of the time it's just start with a conversation or like it can be a face or expression. It's just like both sides don't feel each other. And that's a hard perception now. Deion: Yeah. Urban Activist: What you think? When was the first time you noticed it? Or do you even feel that way? Deion: I mean, you know, it's typical, right? Like the stuff that's shown, the stuff that's heard, the stuff that's conversated about meaning like, you know, the stuff that you was just saying about how people view past or future, you know I'm saying? Like, and ultimately that's what we talking about, right? past and then future like or current you know what saying and You know, I always got this thing about us as humans, like we don't really got a true understanding of each other or acceptance. You know what saying? Like, so for me is like, when I hear them conversations, all I think about is like acceptance or like that you stuck in your own, like, you know, existence. You feel what I'm saying? it's like, people. I understand when you older, you looking back and you think about your time of existence, right? And like, that's all you really can see, because that's when you was in it. Like you was living life. I mean, it currently was happening to you. And see that same thing you not utilizing when you conversing with a younger person. You see what I'm saying? So it's almost like you gotta be empathetic and put yourself in that space. Because the same things you saying now, we were saying back then to the older people too. You feel what I'm saying? Like, we wasn't listening to all of these things. Urban Activist: Okay. Deion: But now that you out of it and is in hindsight, you looking backwards now and you like, well, y'all should do it like this. But when we was there, you ain't think like that. So that tells me again, that tell me again that there's a process in life that you gotta go through in order to understand and see shit. You know I'm saying? Because when you currently in it, Urban Activist: in the room. Hey. Deion: It's like an argument with your girl. Like if you in it, you don't get to sit back and see it from another viewpoint to have a better response or interaction. You get what I'm saying? Like maybe after the argument, you in hindsight, you like, you know what saying? So for me, it's like people just, when it comes to this stuff like that, people just nod. Urban Activist: the end. Deion: like accepting each other's side. You get what I'm saying? Therefore, you not listening to each other if you're always defending. ⁓ back in my day, we did it like this. Well, we hear it. Like, we current now, you feel what I'm saying? And it's funny that we talk about it, because I was thinking right back in school, I remember like, when people was reading the history. Urban Activist: Right. Deion: history books and they used to be like, we looking at slave shit and motherfuckers used to be like, that couldn't have been me back then. I'm like, all right, you thinking with a nail on head, you feel what I'm saying? You ain't thinking like back then, like, no, wouldn't have been, people tried to, whatever you thought that you would have done. People already tried that shit and it turned out, you know what saying? It was consequences, you get what I'm saying? But you so in the now that you ain't even placing your thinking in that space, you get what I'm saying? So. You know what mean? And people love their eras. And 20 years or whatever, and 20 years, hopefully it'll change, but if it keep the same pace, these same young people will be talking down. You get what I'm saying? Back in 2026. You know what I'm saying? So it'll just keep repeating itself. Urban Activist: Yeah Okay, we're shit, bro. Deion: You know, having them, I don't mean to be long-winded and shit, like having them conversations with my mom and them, it's like my era, you know what I'm saying? We ain't grow up like this. ain't, it's like, it's the same, you know what I'm saying? It's like, when we gonna cut that pipeline and actually have these real dialogues or acceptance, you know I'm saying? Like, and. Urban Activist: BLEUGH Deion: To me, the younger people might be in a better space, like, I said what y'all did back then, but we here, you get me? ⁓ Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Deion: I can't even focus on making it better if I gotta constantly deal with it if I go backwards or not. You get what I'm saying? Urban Activist: BLEH So I think that definitely made the gap bigger now than before, dawg. I believe that because now I got a teenage son, you feel me? it's like, the things that I try to tell him, most of it is cool because it's timeless. But some of that stuff is like... Deion: Even Urban Activist: You feel me? It's not compatible no more because they dealing with a whole different set of things coming in and going out every single day, And it's like, in this day and time, the world moving way faster than it ever moved, bro. It's like, one day this thing is popping, then the next day it's done. One day they getting introduced to this, and then the next day that's dead. You feel me? And the realm of moving on, it's like they can't stay stuck in one, like, you feel me? In one mindset. Because it's just not compatible no more. like, I think that's a part of like what caused the gap. But it's like still, man, just because you get older don't mean that you don't know what's going on, bro. We all kind of went through the same things just different ways. Feel me? Deion: Right. Urban Activist: Now I talk to my son and I'm like, yo, you should wear this and you should do this and do that. He's like, no, I don't wanna wear that. I don't like doing that. None of my homies do that. That's not in right now. And I'm like, damn, maybe I'm getting old. But no, that's why this vibe blew though. You feel me? Deion: you Mm-hmm. I mean, it's also like trying to hold on to your youth. You get what I'm saying? Because like I said, like... That's part of the disconnect too, right? Because it's like, you thinking about the clothes and stuff like that, or, you know what mean? And that's where we come from. You get what I'm saying? Your mom made sure you, know I'm saying? So respectfully, it goes down like, all right, yeah. But at the same time, it's like... Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. ⁓ Deion: You at the age too now that you're dressing is, you know what saying, different. Well, know what saying, like, 35s that we in, like, you know what mean? Casual wear suits and shit like that. You get what I mean? and so. Urban Activist: It's more buttoned up now like Mm-hmm. Deion: If we still trying to hold on to the youth, it's like, we still trying to show like, no, we got swag, we got this. You get what I'm saying? So it's like. But they so truthful and want to know about everything because of the technology and everything. It's like we be guarded about a lot of stuff too. Urban Activist: Grrr. Deion: You know what saying? And then utilizing how we learn stuff and try and convey it to like... But like you said, the times is different, you know what mean? Urban Activist: BLEEEH Deion: And you gotta think about it too, right? Like, if you looking at stuff back in our day and it's moving that fast, like a LOX album or some shit like that, that lasted like years, you know what I'm saying? Like a fucking album. Urban Activist: Yo, I just was listening to that shit yesterday. One of them jokes. Deion: You feel me? A whole song when it came out was like months. You get what I'm saying? That was in play or whatever, in rotation. Now, if it's that quick like that, you think because we come from that era and our eras listened and appreciated shit, respected the craft, it's like because they come so quick nowadays. Urban Activist: mmm Deion: You think they don't gotta care for the art. You see what I'm saying? So then that becomes the disconnect, like, you know what mean? And almost like, almost like you feel some type of way. Like, you know what I'm saying? So now, now when you approach a youth, you already got that little stink in your system or whatever. So you might end up leading with that. Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Okay. Thank Deion: or the feelings around how you really feel might leak out. You feel me when they're not even like, you know what I'm saying, meant. And you get what I'm saying? And then we don't be real about that type stuff. Like to really say it, be like, damn, you know, I had that in my head. So, know, my fault young and I came at you, you know, inappropriate. You feel what I'm saying? To where it's more defensive than education. You know what saying? Like, we're not educating each other right now. We're defending our eras or, you know what saying? Why we do the things that we do instead of getting a note. You know I mean? Why is it that way? You get what I'm saying? Because think about it. In our era, we never had nobody really act like, damn, well, why y'all out there doing, you know I'm saying? Like this. Or why y'all speaking language like this? Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Yes. Deion: It was just always, oh no, y'all shouldn't speak like that. Y'all shouldn't use that type of language. Y'all shouldn't use that slang. But never understanding the like, it even came from. Because y'all had an era too, to where as though y'all was young and y'all, you feel me, y'all divvy duck words and, you know what I slick and, know what I'm saying? Like, you get what I'm saying? You feel me? Urban Activist: and jive turkey and all that shit bro that's it come on bro everybody had these slings Deion: And to my ears, right to my ears in 90 something, I can't fathom that. I'm like, job turkey. We would have never thought of that. You feel what I'm saying? But at same time, it's a lot of shit too that we mocked and took and just remixed. You get what I'm saying? So we end up making job turkey into like a turkey. Urban Activist: Yeah. Red dot. Turkey. We took the job off, we understand. Deion: Thank you for watching! You get what I'm saying? that's, that's appreciative and respect it right there to be like, listen, shout out to the onks that created that. That was the shit back in y'all time. I get it. You feel me? And the only combat, mean, the only ⁓ thankfulness from that is that you respect when we like Turkey, you looking at it the same way like damn. Alright, in they era that's what be was fly. So you feel me? Like cool. Urban Activist: Man... And history always repeat itself, bro, like, cause even back when I was growing up and all, I used to look at old movies and they was wearing like the, ⁓ like the crop shirts and all that. And they was wearing bell bottoms and like the thick boots, bro, that shit. Deion: in that way. Urban Activist: Look at it now, bro. It's the same way. They just put guns on it. It's a shirt with your stomach out there wearing a t-shirt under it. You feel me? Some bell-bottom jeans, what they call them, stank jeans. You're man, it's some thick-ass boots. It's the same thing over and over, bro. So it's like moral with the story, bro. We share the same streets, but just not always the same perspective. You feel me? Deion: MMMM Yeah. ⁓ Yeah Yeah, yeah, real shit. And it cycles, you know what mean? And the only way you not accepting the cycle is if you wanna stay on yours. You know I mean? Your dryer is on repeat. You feel me? Real didn't tumble three more times since your joint. You know I mean? And respectfully, you gotta think about it like this, bro. Stay in your era. Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. That's it, bro. Deion: stay amongst your people. You feel what I'm saying and you'll be all right. You get what I'm saying? You still try and be young, that mean you try and be around or be impressive to young people. Why you around that? You gonna crash or something is not a mix that's supposed to be in play. You get what I'm saying? So folks our age need to be hanging with folks our age that know that era. Urban Activist: you NNNN Real soon, bro. Deion: as you know bumping and nothing like that because we got the same memory. You feel what I'm saying? Like we telling stories and shit like that but people always wanna cross those lines with that. That really boils me though like that whole man we ain't even grow up like that. Like it's like, all right, we know that, right. Urban Activist: you Why? Where is it? No. Why? Deion: You're fucking right we ain't grow up like that. How could we grow up like anything other than what was, how can we grow up anything other than what was there at that time? Just like now. How can they grow up any other way with all of this stuff that exists right now? Urban Activist: All right. Yeah Deion: You gonna tell me that you are... Our life was so slow back then. You get what I'm saying? Like, her life was so fucking slow, like. Urban Activist: Wayne had no like, our phones and shit. Like, there wasn't FaceTime and all that. We used to dream about that shit. And I don't wanna make it seem like we old as shit. Cause, what mean? That was right around the corner when we came up, but it was still like, that shit's still relatively new. You feel me? Like, I said, crazy, did you see the video with the bull? He was at, he was somewhere at Spring Break. Old head bull. Deion: Yeah. Urban Activist: doing all young people dances and doing all the TikTok shit, bro. They fried him, dog. They ⁓ fried him. It seemed like everything just stopped. They was just looking at him. Because, bro, you can't seep into that, bro. That's what the young is doing. That's what they doing, bro. Right now, I'm on some shit, bro. I ain't. Huh? Deion: It's been. the evidence. because some people can get a few, you know what Urban Activist: Yeah, some bro, but that's like women. When you a man, bro, our shit constantly advancing, going to the next level. The wisdom growing up, we learning and teaching a family. Bro, that's like reverting from everything that you want now to go back and go to 9-2-3. You feel me? Come on, bro. It's just not a fit. Deion: Thank you. Urban Activist: Real shit is not a fit, dog. But when there was that time to do that, cool. Deion: you No, didn't. That's what I'm saying. It's all right that we party and shit. They just came out with the whole E-matic shit. You know what mean? And had a whole E-matic party. You know what I'm saying? So as people are aging that joint, you know mean? Because they still want to feel that shit. You know I mean? But I don't need, like you said, I don't need to go to nine to three. Urban Activist: ⁓ yeah, yeah, the old school dance, John. Deion: and be amongst the youth that's there now is gonna feel so... Because we so parents now, first of all, you feel me? Like, we so parents, like, like, oh, can you go and enjoy, imagine a woman go and enjoy, she see the young girls from around the way, like, and they, know what I'm saying? Like, that whole, like... Urban Activist: Again, right? Deion: Like you feel me like, cause I remember women coming into our parties like, ⁓ like y'all too close. Like you get what I'm saying? Like there's drawn, you feel me? And so like it's times when these, these, ⁓ these generations need to be together. You feel what I'm saying? So you got natural things like the cookouts. Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah, black parties, shit like that. Deion: You know what mean? you feel me? When both parties can interact, and you know what I'm saying? And it's for that, for that purpose, like. But you know, other than that, know, stay the course. Like, you know, Chris Brown is. Urban Activist: Bro, rap dog. Like last dance I did was like the fucking Harlem Shake and all that. Like that was our era, you feel me? Like J-J Quine came out, like the chicks was doing the chicken head and all that. You feel me? We hella towing that shit. After that, bro, it was a rap. Like I ain't about to be dancing nowhere. Like I ain't even old or nothing, but it's just like... Deion: Mwahahahaha! Urban Activist: I don't know, it's just, I'm past all that. You feel me? Pocket dancing. That's what I'm on. Business dancing, you feel me? Like, achievements dancing. I leave that to the youngest. But at the same time, I respect them. I'm cool with seeing the young boys coming up with they dances, the D's, 30's and all them, and them doing they thing. You feel me? That's the era, bro. That's popping for them. Deion: Yeah. Urban Activist: But I don't expect us to be in that mix, you feel me? Like, that's not our mix, bro. Deion: And. I'll be in that mix like the motherfuckers like I wanna dance bro. I wanna be three and six. That's what I'm saying like I'm not. Urban Activist: Hmm Man, my homies was too tough for that shit, bro. Like, yeah. We was flash mobbing, you feel me? That was our shit when I was coming up. We was flash mobbing. All that dancing shit. You get too close, I'm sorry, you feel me? But now I enjoy seeing the youngins do that. Real shit, more than them shooting each other up and online beefing and all of that shit. Deion: Yeah But alright. ⁓ Yeah. Urban Activist: That shit is carny, you feel me? So I'd rather y'all dance in bed and do y'all little TikTok dances. Whatever gonna bring y'all together, bro, and make y'all unified. I'm cool with that, you feel me? Deion: Yeah, and that's all I be saying like half of the time though I don't see like what people be talking about you feel what I'm saying like When I go through the stores and all that where you know I'm folk be it It'd be respect You know what mean? Like oh damn my bad. Oh, Jake. Oh, oh, Jake. Damn. What's up? Oh, Jake? Oh, yeah, I got a night per Urban Activist: Bro, You're right, bro. Deion: They even polite on the, you know what saying? Like, damn, OJ, I got this. You know what saying? And then just be like, I remember like, it was tough, like, tell a motherfucker like, no, back then. Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Deion: back in my day, it was tough. Niggas wanted you to buy they shit. Pussy don't come to the store if you you know what saying? If you ain't grabbing. You get what I'm saying? That's why I be saying, people be saying, the people that's in my generation, they say stuff that is like, bro, they way more respectful. They doing what they doing and it's polite. Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Yeah, right, right, right. It ain't even your store. Bruice it bro Deion: on some southern shit, I'm like, you get what I'm saying? So like, I don't be seeing all that shit motherfuckers be saying and all that. Like, this shit is amazing to me, bro. Like, I seen like damn near fucking 5,000 kids, like all in one spot in Philly. Like they was doing gatherings and shit like you get what I'm saying? Like that had to be like 20 schools or some shit, bro. Like how the fuck they even do that? It's the internet, you get what I'm saying? people looking at these, like that's why I'm saying it gotta be your block. Your block is gotta be you thinking about your time and then trying to equate it with this time. You get what I'm saying? They be like, nah. Urban Activist: Yeah. Mmm. Okay. Deion: You don't even want to know what's going on out there because if you did You'll be like, oh shit. It's so far from what you probably thought You'd be like damn I thought y'all was really wild as shit out here like no talk to these kids I guarantee you like What the fuck Smart as shit you talk about You talk about who what's the kid named? Casanoa Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Bro, they throw and they be smart as shit, Smart as shit, dawg. Deion: K- K- How dizzy? Urban Activist: Yeah He gotta be like early 20s like you feel me something like that Deion: You got the kid Rod. Rod. Like, they figured this shit out. Bro, these niggas figured this shit out on a level that we still try and do as grown ass men. Like, we try and get... You get what I'm saying? So much that it probably fuck a lot of game up, Because like, that make the average man kinda look like a sucker. Urban Activist: Yeah, I fuck with him heavy, Deion: You get me? In the everyday life, if women looking at men, your status and everything gotta be accordingly, you get what I'm saying? It's like they think, oh, if these kids can make that shit work like that, then why the fuck you ain't on your job? You get me? I remember Wallow said, damn, y'all are 20 years ahead of me. Urban Activist: Thank Mm-hmm. Deion: y'all at a 20 year head start. You get what I'm saying? But his mind not the same as being in there and then being out here and then actually going through shit and you get what I'm saying? So I understand what he's saying about it, but it's like, it's also that realness about it. Like, nah, because we was out here, don't make it like. Urban Activist: Red. Deion: that it was that simple or that easy. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm thinking about it. I'm like, damn, there's a lot of men out here, but all of them can't be on the same status as like, ⁓ millionaires. You get what I'm saying? Like, and this. Urban Activist: Yeah. Yeah, shit. And ain't far by, bro. And that take a certain like discipline. It take like a certain amount of discipline, bro. They even like hit them levels, bro. Like in determination and shit like and a lot of times where like The way we had to grow up and the way a lot of people had to grow up, we had to work and do this and do this. Like we always trying to solve a problem and shit like that. Whereas though like, we start thinking like, no, I can't just fuck around and do that. Like, cause then what about this? What about my bills? What about, like is that, that amount of courage you got to have to be like, no bro, if I'm going to be a streamer, I'm going to be a streamer. You feel me? I don't care how I look. I'ma wake up before I even wash my face, I'm hitting the stream button, then I'ma go brush my teeth and do all that on a... Like that take a certain determination, you feel me? So I respect them boys grind, bro. And it really paid off for them. And one thing about the new generation, bro, like they care about certain shit, but they don't really care as much as we do about other things. You feel me? And not in a bad way. Deion: Be a good one. Urban Activist: But they don't care about how people gonna view them and all of that shit. It's that freedom in it. You feel me? That freedom, that natural ability to do what you wanna do. I fuck with that, bro. Real shit, because in my period, we ain't come equipped with that, We had to come outside with that shit on. It wasn't no go to school with sweatpants and some Crocs on. It wasn't that. You feel me? You would get fried. You had to throw your best on. It was always about your presentation and how you carried yourself. Deion: Mm-hmm. Urban Activist: is a whole different structure of the mindset. So it's like, these conversations is definitely viable, bro. We need the young boys to keep doing what they doing, bro, to show us that like, damn, it is other shit that's possible. And the old heads that's older than us, that never would have thought that you can make money off of this shit. You feel me? Deion: Yeah. Right. Urban Activist: So it's like, at the same time, it's like, old heads know that the young boys is teaching all of us too. You feel me? Like, real shit, they teaching us too. Like, some of them never even had a job. You feel me? ⁓ Like, what's the point of getting a job now? Deion: and Right? Or going to school and getting dead and all that shit. Urban Activist: show. Yeah, right. Go to school, then you owe 40 grand, 60 grand or something to go to school, and then you go fill out an application, they tell you you don't got enough experience. Like, that's crazy, bro. That's the cat. Deion: But that's the black thing that ⁓ I feel as though that, you know, the youth is like teaching. You get what I'm saying? And re-showing us like, yo, you guys had a freedom to just be who you are. You get what I'm saying? Like, can't really like, like expand on like, Urban Activist: ⁓ shit. So like. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Deion: the stuff that you identify and then make that everything. You get what I'm saying? Like, cause at the same time you got high school, it's the drill kids, it's the gaming kids, it's the, you know what I'm saying? Streaming kids, it's the, you know, whatever girls got going on. You feel what I'm saying? It's all different girls and all that. You get what I'm saying? Like accepting, acceptance is probably more Urban Activist: It's definitely more open now Deion: open now in school I think. Than it was. Than it was back in our day like I said. And if you still got the mindset that you think like, ⁓ because you went through that at that time that it goes on now, it's probably gonna be different. And you can't even accept that and I get it. Like you get what I'm saying but at the same time like, yeah, you gotta free yourself. Urban Activist: And that's a whole day. Deion: You get what I'm saying? That's why I'm saying that you is showing us like, yo, you gotta be free like, and look at the numbers, the numbers keep going up. Mike was the greatest player in the game, but like the contracts now is just ridiculous, bro. Urban Activist: So. Bro, shit bro, the contract's way more stupid. Deion: You get what I'm saying? And people they ain't even recognizing, right? This is number one key, right? You ain't even recognizing, like, right? All the stuff that Mike and everybody went through pre whoever playing now, we call it like soft and like, everybody emotional and stuff like that. But like, really what that is, is the results of like what they all had to fight for and do back in the day. Urban Activist: Dang, bro. Deion: You get what I'm saying? Like, understand what I'm saying. Like, for them to be like, it's soft, right? That means like, somebody really stood up and was like, no, like we not standing for like, doing that. So like, we gotta make that a rule. You get what I'm saying? Like, in the vein to make the game better. Before you can voice even that. Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. ⁓ And plus you got a bank about bro, it was a lot of race shit going on back then everything like there was a lot of shit going on Deion: You see what I'm saying? To either have or... Now as players, you got an influence to be able to change how shit go about. So that's the results. Urban Activist: They don't even gotta be on the court. It could be on the phone. You feel me? It could be on TikTok. It could be on the Gram. On X. It could be wherever. You feel me? And that shit gonna hit different, bro. That's why technology really shaped communication. It ran all throughout the years, bro. Deion: Yeah. Urban Activist: And I respect it. Because it's like we can't keep using the same, like, the same Jones from our era. And that's any of the eras. Like, we can't keep using the same Jones. They gotta blend with the new. You feel me? Because the older we get, bro, if we not connected with the youth, bro, you just get pushed to the side. Deion: Stay there, let's use again. Urban Activist: You gotta interpret the new, cause it's always out with the old and in with the new. That's just how it is, bro. So it gotta be some connection to the old heads that they got them feelings like, no, the young boys, they don't got nothing to offer. did it. ⁓ bro. They really got everything to offer, cause just as fast as technology is increasing and growing, they are as well, bro. You feel me? Deion: Yeah, exactly. And that's why I'm saying like, what do you call him respect? You know what I'm saying? Like, if I don't allow you to be you, I think that's the top of disrespect. You get what I'm saying? Like, and so what's inclusive in that? Or God giving ability to choose. Urban Activist: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Deion: You get what I'm saying? When people lie or mis-God, then you take away that God-given ability to choose. You get what I'm saying? Like sometimes, you know, and honestly, you gotta go through life and see it in hindsight to even recognize it. You get what I'm saying? But that's only me seeing it in my eyes. And as far as I can see, you get me? I don't know the whole world. You get what I'm saying? So it's like when you live through something, Urban Activist: it. Yeah. Deion: And now you can say some stuff ⁓ in hindsight. Don't come as if like it's a magical gift. You get what I'm saying? Like, and everybody should follow it because that was your journey. You went through it. You get what I'm saying? Now, if you see similarities in somebody that's coming in that path, all right, you get what I'm saying? God. Urban Activist: BLEEEH Deion: But like, I find now that I'm older, it's not important for me to talk down and... be even inclusive in my story, like, cause it almost gonna sound like comparison. Urban Activist: meh Deion: or blaming, you get what I'm saying? Like, no, I'm really intrigued on what you got going on right now. I wanna know like what's in y'all mind, like what's going, like you get what I'm saying? What's y'all everyday struggles and stuff like that, you get what I'm saying? Because I already live mine. Urban Activist: Okay. Deion: I don't need to like, you get what I'm saying? I can't relive it. So you know what I'm saying? And when I'm listening like that, my feedback or response is more always continuing education-wise. You get what I'm saying? So they giving it to me like, damn, no, we living like this. You get what I'm saying? We try and take advantage like this. Or we just bored like, hey, they just keep it real like, ⁓ he's just bored on some neck and say the word. Fuck it, you get what I'm saying? But now, I think the difference is like. Urban Activist: Yeah. Deion: ⁓ Because we allow questioning. Remember as we said on previous ⁓ episodes, like when we was kids, it like, it wasn't no questioning. It's like going to the mass jig or the church. We can't ask questions in the middle of a jump. You get what I'm saying? But it's like, now we didn't allow for the questioning. Urban Activist: Okay. Alright, bye. Mm-hmm. What else is it? Deion: Right? Because, you know, like with my kids, they like, why we gotta go there? Like, why we gotta do that? Like, you know what saying? They struggle and like, why? Like, why you this? And we probably was too, but our parents cut it right off. Like with me, I'm like, I'm answering. Urban Activist: BLEH Deion: You get what I'm saying? Like I'm answering every John, like, well, this is why. This is why. Urban Activist: Anyway, cuz, we understand that's how they learn, like, that's how they learn too, anyway. Deion: What happened to your camera and shit? Urban Activist: plug the jacket. But yeah, that's how they learn too, Real shit, dog. My daughter asks me every time, like, well, why that? Why? And I tell her, oh, all right, why is it like that? And who made it like that? And it's like, instead of getting frustrated, it's like, she a sponge right now. You feel me? So like, if I can... Deion: Mmm. Urban Activist: load her up with the things that I feel as though was valuable to me, cool, but I also want to know the things that's valuable to her as well. You feel me? So it's like a, it's a mutual genre, because I don't just believe that respect is automatic, elder shouldn't be questioned, and experience equals authority and shit. I don't really think that. That shit go both ways, you feel me? Deion: Yeah. And that's why like you saying what you saying when they come to like, you know, respectfully answering your daughter, because you know, you understand like that really didn't work with us. You get what I'm saying? Either you gonna turn, you gonna turn up or you gonna turn off. You get what I'm saying? So a lot of us, you know, turned off and now like You're not going to get a lot from us or whatever. So now you got sneaky kids and teenagers and all that. When I answer your questions, don't gotta go outside for answers. Urban Activist: You don't gotta lie. You don't gotta bend the truth and try to tell me what I wanna hear, because you think you won't get in trouble. No, bro. No, bro. That's reason. That's not cultivatin'. You feel me? Like our previous conversation, bro. Like, ever since we talked about that shit, I was like, yo, that's real rap, bro. You raising your kids, bro. That's... Deion: Dude. Urban Activist: Like come on bro, you raise cattle, you raise sheep and lambs and shit. But when it comes to our children, bro, we really gotta cultivate them, bro. Give them the skills to succeed even when we not around and to be leaders when we not around. Like make that lead in culture like thorough, like, cause that's really what it is. Like using your brain and like talking yourself through situations and. and negotiating and all of that, that's a true skill, bro. You can't just be emotional with everything and shutting down and try to lie your way through the door and all of that, faking it till you make it and all that. Like, nah, Authenticity always gonna win. Real shit. Deion: Yeah. And that's why I'm saying like, we can't be confused and saying like, ⁓ this generation is soft. And then at the same time, you'll say, ⁓ this generation is wow. Like, they'll shoot you the fuck up for no reason. Like, you get what I'm saying? It's like, is they soft or is they killing you? You know what I'm saying? Like. Urban Activist: I ain't know for no reason, bro. And most, I ain't gonna lie, bro. It's just crazy. It's sad too, bro. Cause most of the violence going on, bro, it's it's young versus young. Like it ain't none of us like, bro, it's none of us, bro. How they solve, if anything we solve, bro. I don't got time to do a 40 to 90 now. I don't got time to do a 10 to 20 or none of that. I don't got time for none of that shit. I got bills to pay. Deion: Thank We're ready. Urban Activist: I got business to build, I got kids to rely, ain't nobody getting into that. So it was like, man, I feel as though my job is being a big bro, you know what mean? In that era, like, no, bro, that's not it. I can give you what I can give you, but on a positive, I can't tell you how to run your plate. You feel me? But I can like... Deion: Thank you. Urban Activist: Throw a couple good plays in your playbook for you, you feel me? So you can carry it the right way. And that's where I'ma keep it. It ain't like I'm a down player, John, or I'ma do none of that. No, bro. But I do know how to play the game a little bit now, you feel me? So now if I can give you what I can give you, that's what's up. Because at the same time, bro, you can give me something too. Deion: Yeah. Urban Activist: Like, real rap, bro. Young Bars, they figured out all these new ways to get payable without having to do no work. Like, that's admirable to me. Like, that's admirable to me, bro. Like, I'm like, damn, bro. It's Young Bars making apps and coming out with this shit that we use on computers and phones and 3D printing shit that we never knew we needed and all that, bro. So I respect that. We need that connection, bro. You know what mean? Deion: Ready. Urban Activist: real shit dog light and it made me Deion: That motherfucker's in. Urban Activist: ⁓ it just made me think about like the LeBron shit now. Like, you feel me how like they always compare like LeBron to like Jordan and all that. And that's cool. But bro, like even that effect that Brian got now, like ⁓ when the young boys come to Brian and he helped them out and you feel me like that's thorough, bro. But like in the streets, it's like, ⁓ he an old head. Like why he still playing? Deion: Hmm. Urban Activist: He 40 something years like bro cool out with that bro. Say you hating what I was saying you hating dog like that's sterile that an old head still cook like come on guys That don't mean you lose it just because you get older or just because you get some gray hair that don't mean we lost it bro We just got a little sharper Cuz I ain't gonna lie bro Go ahead Deion: I'm No, I'm listening to you. Urban Activist: I was about to say, I ain't gonna lie on the court, bro. I'm still gonna choose my man Buck, bro. Like, on the basketball court against whoever, I'm still gonna choose you, bro, because I already know that, like, that shit's still there. Like, young as Mike think, that's how, it made me be playing ball with Caleb and his homies. They thought that they was going, you know, cook me up and all. Like, bro, I scorched them. You feel like I scorched them, bro? You feel me? Deion: Thank Thank Thank Urban Activist: They wasn't expecting that. But I'm like, come on, bro. Why wouldn't you expect that? Deion: Yay. It's dope you bring up that though. It made me think like that's what we need too. Like you feel me? Some interaction like that. Like let's get on the court. You feel me? Urban Activist: Yeah, some competition, some friendly competition. Y'all want to pop big, you feel me? Come on. Deion: Yeah, like... And at the same time, like do other shit too, you feel me? Like, like go out to eat and you know what saying? Like have conversations and all that, like do it all. Urban Activist: Yeah bro shit bro About fatherhood and all that, bro. Like, relationships, everything, bro. Because we done did this shit a lot of times for a long time. Like, and a lot of them is just getting in it. You feel me? Some young boys just out of school and they having kids. You know, it's like, damn. Like, say we don't got some game for them, bro. Like, we waited till we was older to have kids and everything, So it's just like that. Deion: Yeah Mm-hmm. Right. Urban Activist: That's the real bridge right there. It's not just about talking. It was about doing shit together, bro. Cause then you see the similarities. Like, that should be like, ⁓ young boy, you got the energy. I like that you got that shot. And they be like, but damn, old head, you got the technique. You don't need a hundred percent speed. You don't use a hundred percent of your energy on doing nothing. You can come down and do three moves and cook us. You mean? So it's like that combination, that's probably what the world is really scared of. So they push this narrative, like they push this genre on social media that like the youngins and the old heads don't fuck with each other. But in real life, bro, we do. Like we love each other and we respect each other to the max. I ain't see an old head and a young boy arguing in a minute like on some outside in the streets, like you said. Yo OG did it, my fault. It's like respectful and we keeping respectful with them too cause like how is somebody giving you that respect? How you gonna be on some nut shit as an old head? You feel me? Like you trippin' bro. Deion: Yay. And then you, you, you puzzled if he crack your fucking head. Me crack your fucking head. You're supposed to be the, that's why I'm saying it. And then that's the way that respect get lost. Cause then it becomes, well damn, I lent my respect to you elder and this what you did with it. You get what I'm saying? So. Urban Activist: Alright bro, I might crack this shit too like come on bro. He been vulnerable bro shit bro That's it. Deion: Now a lot of young people will start looking like, I ain't got respect, old head, like, you feel me? And people be mixing the two, like, just because a young can go through that with an old head, that's daydream. You feel me? Don't try to make it like Young Bulk talking about every fucking old head in the world. Like, no. You feel me? It's been times, like, even in my life and... Urban Activist: Yeah. Deion: in current life that it was like yeah some old is trying to stop it but the right old heads can stop Urban Activist: Mm hmm. Deion: You see what I'm saying? Because the respect level is different for whatever the relationship was or is. You see what I'm saying? So, lot of times, like you said, like people be trying to push these narratives, but when you really dig into it, like, no, like sad person had a problem with sad person. That's it. Don't try and make it like it was the whole block, cause that's where they get messy and... Urban Activist: Yeah Deion: You feel what I'm saying? Now there's 27th Street versus 29th Street. It's like, you feel what I'm saying? Urban Activist: nothing. And then people don't like, main people in the war don't even know how this shit started. You feel me? Like you just in it. Deion: young and old people just catching strays like just because they in that age bracket like and that's why I be saying too a lot we cross too much shit like because you deal with a man like that did you win or a woman that did you hit that don't mean every woman like you get what I'm saying so in Philly we have been raised with our trauma and you feel me like we be on some trauma bond and shit like and mixed in everything all together. You feel me? Because when I look at the city, it ain't all them killings like that, or we wouldn't be able to live a comfortable life every day. You get what I'm saying? No. Urban Activist: the There's millions of people. it was really that much, it would be a lot more. Deion: Yeah, his pockets are goofy shit, goofy ass niggas, nut ass niggas. His pockets are all ass. You feel me? But his a pocket of thorough niggas, you know what I'm saying? Pocket of activist type niggas that's doing they thing. A whole hell of a lot of motherfuckers that's doing more for the community than it ain't. Urban Activist: ⁓ shit, bro. Deion: But wherever your sources are, know what mean? Then that's how you thinkin', you feel me? And if you let that lead your way, I understand where we at. Because we're not even speaking from our self. You talking about the whole era of shit. You see a motherfucker say, nigga, I'm from Philly. be like, what? the fuck that person, what that mean? You feel what I'm saying? But because like the thing, the narrative carries that and you feel what I'm saying? Like the narrative carries, the narrative carries that Philly is, you know what saying? So people think like, ⁓ I'm gonna utilize that. Like I'm from Philly, all right, but then you get punched in your face. You just like. Urban Activist: Other places, right? Deion: represented Philly and that, you feel what I'm saying? Like, so if you shit like that, that'd be like, you feel me? And it's like, don't, anybody putting anything on anybody and just the, I'll say this last thing, Like, we're human, like. Urban Activist: Sure, Deion: We think like ourselves, you get what I'm saying? Like how I think in my head. Because you know, like the first thing be like, know, what a person would do if the situation was vice versa, right? So that's what I mean. Like people looking at shit like, Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Deion: Like when I was a kid. But you talking to like another kid that's current, you get what I'm saying? So you can't be inclusive of what your shit was to somebody else situation is not gonna be the same. Our journeys, our path, how God like lined us all up is like, unless you in that personality, it's 13 personalities in the world. That's your zodiac sign. Urban Activist: It's so different, man. Deion: So that group of people can have similar ⁓ journeys or interactions or whatever, you know what saying? And they might deal with it the same way, because the personalities is the same. besides that, the experience and everything else is going to be different, And we all know how to accept that. Like, your experience is different than my experience. Urban Activist: Right. Thank video. Deion: Even though we might have grew up in the same block, same house, same everything, brothers and sisters who live in the same house, their experience is different. So we can't put on other people our experience like. Urban Activist: Bro, shit is just, it's not compatible, bro. Like, you feel me? Everybody got their own shit, their own path, bro, and their own set of things that they went through to craft the person that they are. So yeah, it's just, I don't know, man. And I ain't going to lie, bro. I learned that by moving out of my city. You feel me? I had to unlearn and relearn a lot of shit, bro. Because it's things that I held so dear to me. was like, in the real world, in the big boy world, in the business world, none of them things that I was holding onto or attached to. got me no benefits on where I was trying to go. Now some of the things, don't get me wrong, like having street smarts and book smarts, like it help you maneuver and you know, get to certain places, but like, it's not something that just be repping. ⁓ crazy, you feel me? You take that information and you apply it. That's what it is, bro. You feel me? There's no need to keep shouting it. Real shit, dog. But we came up, and I came up in the joint where it's like, damn, bro, I'm from the checks. You feel me? Like, we like, we standing on shit. through the, like, then when I start being on some adult shit, bro, like, I feel foolish talking like that. You feel me? Like, what am I talking about, guys? Like, you think these people care? Like, they don't give a fuck about that. Deion: Thank you. Urban Activist: Like bro, right bro, it don't get you no gravy points for that. Deion: Yeah. And that's why I'm saying it for me. Urban Activist: So that's advice I would give to my youngins, bro. Like, yeah, take what you know and what you learn from the struggle and all that. And, man, use that towards your betterment in life, bro. That don't mean sport it and you gotta act like this because you from here and all that and all, bro. But if it is a situation and that'll work for you in that situation, yeah, use it. But if it's one that don't suit you in that situation, bro, keep it in the tuck and just keep it as experience for yourself to move forward. You know Deion: Mm-hmm. and some random shit. and hindsight, you feel me? That's why I be clear about things that I'm saying, because it's hindsight. It's not that I'm special in any type of way, you get what I'm saying? It's just hindsight. And if a young bull can understand that, it is serving. You get what I'm saying? Because then you can utilize other people ahead of you. Urban Activist: Yeah. Deion: and aid their hindsight. You know what saying? And whatever hindsight you go through from going through, you your living, then you can, you know, pass that back down too. You get what I'm saying? And you gotta look at the cycles of life like in such a way like that. You get what I'm saying? Urban Activist: Mm-hmm. Deion: We don't need to be fighting over anything, I just don't be understanding the fight. I I understand it because all of this stuff that's inclusive in the world make everything tangle up like that. You get what I'm saying? Because poverty and all of these type of things, we have these type of interactions and shit. And then this... This is the thing that's important. Urban Activist: Right, bro. This is the real thing. Deion: You know what I mean? So these become the things that's important, like rumbling in the hood and standing on your toes. Like, what the fuck would that, why would that be a thing that's important in our everyday living? You get what I'm saying? But it's only because of poverty that these type of things, you get what I'm saying? Because of the pile on top of each other type. can't let you breathe type, you know, I need to get it for me and mine. You get what I'm saying? Like all of those different energies. And so it just spilled over on everything. It'd be like, man, the old fighting with the young. Like, who the fuck, why the fuck is that a thing? Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, how does that a thing? Like, you get Urban Activist: crazy bro that's why I think like it's the powers that be for real for real bro that that sparked that type of you feel me that sparked that type of thinking like from the rip bro because like if that shit wasn't never put in our faces as like that bro if it wasn't all of these shows and and all of these like crazy videos and all that shit bro who's to say we we will even be on that type time you feel me But it's like the algorithm, that shit crazy bro, cause it can be beneficial or it can be degradin'. Real shit, bro. And then it's like, you gotta think about who started the algorithm. Who started to be a certain way. And then it's like, how do that shit get to us and our kids, but it don't get to suburban areas? You feel what mean? And that's like a whole different rap. But I know what we do need to do is, instead of judging each other, we need to start being with each other more, bro. Like real shit, we need to start trying that shit. Like, man, like you said, we going to hoop, after we go hoop. Well, we about to go do this, you trying to slide? After that, all right, cool. I'll make sure you get to your crib. You feel me? I'll make sure that like, yeah, if you going to be hanging with me, I'll holla at your folks first. Listen, this what we going to be doing. This what we at. Feel free to pop though, because we building something here. And that's the way that we really get past all of the other shit, dawg. We can't keep letting electronics and shit like that dictate how we think about each other and what we want to do around each other and all that. Because at the end of the day, bro, that's all we got is each other. Nobody else care about the people who look like us and where we come from, except for people who, you know. come from the same places already, you know I And I ain't gonna say that's with everybody, cause some people do care, but you know the majority don't care. They care about their situations and what they got going on, bro. So we gotta be more steadfast in doing that same thing, but building our community up. So it's like, even having these conversations, bro, some people might look at it as boring, but this shit is the real insight, bro. This is the real deal, guys. Cause like damn, if we don't care about each other bro, who gon' care about us? Yeah man? Deion: Yeah. Time to shut the road. Urban Activist: ⁓ shit. You know, every time, bro, that's what we here for, bro, to shift this shit, man. We ain't turning the dial back, bro. We turning it forward, you know what I Turning it up. Deion: Yeah, for sure. Urban Activist: We gonna get back to a part two of this too, man, cause I wanna dig a little deeper, bro. And I wanna get some of my youngins too. I wanna see what they got going on and what they feeling and what they going through right now. You feel me? I think that'd be powerful for this. Deion: Yeah. Show them how it's done, man. Show them how it should be. Show how it does look. And when it is, the way we talking about it, you feel what I'm saying? Like, cause that's the most important thing. You know what mean? Jay was just telling me the other day he learned it in jail and shit, going through a program that the guy was on some shit like. If I'm dealing with every issue and all I got is a hammer in my tool belt, then like that's all I'm gonna use. Everything gonna be a hammer away, you get me? So if this is a small problem, big problem, you still only got the hammer to use. When you start luring your toolbox with all these other joints. You get what I'm saying? When different parts of life come, you got something in your tool belt to handle it. You get what I'm saying? And that's what we got to do more of. You get what I'm saying? Load the toolbox up. You know I'm saying? And that's because both parties and all parties Urban Activist: shit. Deion: seem like we missed the number one genre when it comes to us and us versus us as conflict resolution. Urban Activist: day. Deion: We only got one hammer in the box. And that's the fuck. Like, try to destroy each other, like... You mean? Yeah, this has been the volume shift, you know what I'm saying? Your volume has just been shifted. But doctor, you know what A doctor without the doctor. Urban Activist: Ready? I love the urban activists, the black activists. And this is the volume shift.