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Reward For Effort With LIAM GUINANE From WINDWAKER · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Heyman.
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  Speaker 2: Them is Leanham from a band called wind Waker, and
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  Speaker 2: today we're going to be talking about the Apro Music
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  Speaker 2: Awards and that we're so grateful to be nominated.
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  Speaker 3: For fantastic Liam thanks for joining us today.
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  Speaker 1: Brother, Thank you very much for having me.
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  Speaker 3: My fleurxercise.
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  Speaker 4: You say their Windwaker are entering pretty much uncharted territory
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  Speaker 4: later this month when you're at a five Australian representatives
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  Speaker 4: in the most performed hard Rock Heavy Metal Work category
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  Speaker 4: at the twenty twenty five AFRO Music Awards in Melbourne
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  Speaker 4: on April or thirties. So firstly, congratulations, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: It's very exciting over here at team win Waker.
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  Speaker 4: We are biting you if you just played that many
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  Speaker 4: different places, you've played with massive bands, You've done it
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  Speaker 4: all pretty much musically.
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  Speaker 3: But how is this going to compare on a scale
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  Speaker 3: like representing the Australian music industry.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I mean it's it's Honestly, when we saw
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  Speaker 2: that we were nominated, it was honestly quite unexpected given
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  Speaker 2: the caliber of bands that were up against. So I
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  Speaker 2: must say I'm quite quite honored to be considered next
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  Speaker 2: to some of these pillars of heavy music currently in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, it feels terrific to be to be
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  Speaker 2: put amongst those names and to be a part of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to the night and it seems
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  Speaker 2: seems like it's going to be a fantastic evening. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: very much uncharted territory for us being recognized like this,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, very awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Come come to Night.
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  Speaker 4: Made April of thirtieth on a scala wonderchen. How nervous
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  Speaker 4: you're Can you get a beat?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 2: I haven't started writing a speech or anything yet, so
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  Speaker 2: I think I think once, once that happens, my nerves
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  Speaker 2: will come a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But at this stage, very nervous. Shooting fact, I.
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  Speaker 3: Found a bit strange.
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  Speaker 4: May like the category is called the most performed hard
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  Speaker 4: rock heavy metalwork. So does most perform mean that whichever
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  Speaker 4: one of you five bands played that song the most.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like, doesn't it. That's the way
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  Speaker 2: that they seem to explain it. So yeah, I guess
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  Speaker 2: it's to do with either how much it's been performed alive,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe how much it's been played surely, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but It's strange, isn't it. Yeah, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: they've they've got some way of calculating it over there
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  Speaker 2: at APRAA.
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  Speaker 1: They've got all the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, but yeah, like I said, to be to
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  Speaker 2: be put against those to be put against all those
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  Speaker 2: groups for something like most performed hard rock and heavy
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  Speaker 2: metal category, it's yeah, crazy, I believe we've been played
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  Speaker 2: that much.
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  Speaker 4: And you've been nominated for the song Sirens, which is
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  Speaker 4: from your second album, Michael Violence. So do you personally
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  Speaker 4: think that's probably the best almost deserving some of the album.
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  Speaker 2: I think so. I think with the with the I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all of the songs on the album, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we would we would love to have, you know, recognized
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  Speaker 2: in the same sort of way. But Sirens was definitely
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  Speaker 2: a clear, you know, contender for for anything like this
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  Speaker 2: as far as you know, like how many streams we've
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  Speaker 2: gotten compared to the rest of the album. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all the songs are doing numbers, but Sirens has been
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  Speaker 2: the one that's consistently stayed our top song. I mean
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  Speaker 2: even when we put out the lux edition of hyper
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  Speaker 2: Violence and we put sort of a revamped, collaborative sort
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  Speaker 2: of version of Sirens that even that ended up becoming
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  Speaker 2: our second most played song at one point in time.
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  Speaker 2: So we had Sirens and then Sirren's two point zero
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  Speaker 2: and it was just like, can you guys stream any
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  Speaker 2: other song of ours?
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  Speaker 1: Please?
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  Speaker 4: I know black is the only color of the rainbow
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  Speaker 4: metal Edge Fate, but have you put much thought into
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  Speaker 4: what you get to wear on the night.
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  Speaker 1: I've got this. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I like a classic navy blue suit, but I might
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  Speaker 2: have to go shopping a little bit. I haven't even
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  Speaker 2: thought about it yet, but I definitely want to put
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  Speaker 2: in a bit of a you know, put a bit
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  Speaker 2: of swagger into it. I don't know, We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: I've had a little bit of a thought. I thought
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  Speaker 2: about rocking up in the track suit.
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  Speaker 5: Actually statement of course, Winston was there last year with
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  Speaker 5: Parkway driving the award, and he had himself like a
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  Speaker 5: true superstar that he is made.
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  Speaker 3: So have you called on him for any any tips
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  Speaker 3: and fashion advice?
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  Speaker 2: No? But I think I might have to now now
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  Speaker 2: that you mention it, I think I'm going to have
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  Speaker 2: to call on him get some advice from the boy.
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  Speaker 3: He did well last year.
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  Speaker 4: He was a perfect representative for like, I'm sorry after
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  Speaker 4: the awards were handed out and you know when I
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  Speaker 4: have to say gratulations to him, and he had that
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  Speaker 4: many people want a piece of him, and he sat
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  Speaker 4: the whole time and he spoke like you know, there
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  Speaker 4: was no no like fucking out of here time being
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  Speaker 4: like it was a genuine really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 3: He was a great ambassador.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's that's all I tried to be
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  Speaker 2: whenever I go anywhere with with representing heavy music. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully I can continue on that that tradition.
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  Speaker 4: No, I hate to it's the term competing when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to Australian bands made. But in fact you're up
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  Speaker 4: against the fellows. He's making them suffer, Polaris, Speed and
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  Speaker 4: North Lane. So tell me here and now, bro, why
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  Speaker 4: will wedwa if you get the chocolate?
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  Speaker 6: So broad of them, we're just we're just built different,
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  Speaker 6: just doing it different, you know, like I said, for real,
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  Speaker 6: I mean that the bands that you've mentioned are all,
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  Speaker 6: you know, pushing the genre and representing heavy music in
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  Speaker 6: their own way.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean I hope that.
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  Speaker 2: We can we can we can get the chocolates at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the night as you put it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just by the sheer catchiness of the song, maybe just
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  Speaker 2: by the sheer infectious nature of it that it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: got a bit more of a broader appeal. Hopefully, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, all I can say is I hope.
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  Speaker 3: So you mentioned a speech before, bro, like, are you
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  Speaker 3: playing on right one?
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  Speaker 1: Just in case?
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  Speaker 3: Sorry again to get up there and wing it.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: My instincts are telling me that I should actually write one,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that, like at this stage, I can't
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  Speaker 2: imagine me.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine pulling it out, so I might end
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  Speaker 1: up having to wing it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'll have a few dot points, so it'll
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  Speaker 2: it'll really test my ability to banter on stage.
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  Speaker 1: That's all.
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  Speaker 4: I'll give you a little tip over because I was
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  Speaker 4: there last year. I'm gonna come along again to see
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  Speaker 4: you too. But it's not the right environment to stand
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  Speaker 4: up there and just.
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  Speaker 2: Go fuck yeah yeah, oh god, no, No, I definitely
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  Speaker 2: won't do that. Spaghetti will fall out of my pockets
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  Speaker 2: before that ever happens.
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  Speaker 4: Last year was the first time this category was included
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  Speaker 4: for hard rock and heavy bands, which is awesome, but
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  Speaker 4: I notice they still have an asked one of the
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  Speaker 4: heavy er hard rock bands to.
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  Speaker 3: Play live on the night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that?
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  Speaker 4: I know? I reckon maybe Friends are on fucked it
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  Speaker 4: for everyone when they didn't so much fun a few
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  Speaker 4: years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, trust friends will to ruin it for everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Still though, I would have loved to have seen them
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  Speaker 2: play that. That would have been, That would have been mad.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon that that's kind to change it.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of these years, I'd say, like heavy music
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  Speaker 2: is having a renaissance and in popular in the popular
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  Speaker 2: music world, I think, and I think more representations is
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  Speaker 2: going to come with time.
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  Speaker 1: I think. I think we've just got to be patient.
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  Speaker 3: Have we got to behave ourselves this year?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, be good ambassadors, so all.
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  Speaker 3: Fun and stuff as ideo Right.
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  Speaker 4: How good is it to have our music finally rewarded
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  Speaker 4: and represented as major music by this instead of just
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  Speaker 4: being you know, the bastard children of the industry.
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I mean it's it's constantly been, you know,
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  Speaker 2: overshadowed by other styles of music.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously every form of.
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  Speaker 2: Expression is valid and it's you know, it's worth the
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  Speaker 2: screen time. But it's actually finally good to be able
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  Speaker 2: to see this renaissance happening and seeing that heavy music
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  Speaker 2: does have an audience that does have an appeal and
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  Speaker 2: it's only getting more and more recognized as time goes on.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, so hopefully with time more and more
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  Speaker 1: of that will come.
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  Speaker 3: What do you sort of see the flow on effects
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  Speaker 3: for austral and any music industry moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think I think what we might see is
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  Speaker 2: hopefully more crossover between heavy music and other and other
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  Speaker 2: genres and having it be a little bit more normalized
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  Speaker 2: and a little less taboo. I mean, it's one of
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  Speaker 2: the things we noticed a lot when we've been over
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  Speaker 2: in the States performing is you know that you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not as taboo with in other places in the world.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's considered quite a just a popular
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  Speaker 2: form of music, you know. And I can't speak from
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  Speaker 2: any experience from going to Europe, but like I know
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  Speaker 2: that that that audience is their tenfold too.
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  Speaker 1: So I think Australia is just, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: catching up.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I hope to see a lot more crossover,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, especially with what win Waker does to as
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  Speaker 2: far as you know, incorporating other styles. Hopefully that that
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  Speaker 2: creates a bit of a bridge to cross over into
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  Speaker 2: other genres.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Wind Waker have recently finished touring on the back of
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  Speaker 4: your latest album, Hyper Violence Made.
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  Speaker 3: So how are the new songs received lives?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I I don't want to say unexpected,
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  Speaker 2: because like, oh, I didn't I just didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: to expect. But then once we got up on stage
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  Speaker 2: and you know, we're opening with a song like Infinity,
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  Speaker 2: the energy was absolutely infectious and honestly one of the
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  Speaker 2: best tools that we've done as far as headlines go.
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  Speaker 2: And it was really good to be able to play
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  Speaker 2: even some of the ones that's been that have been
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  Speaker 2: out for you know, prior to the album coming out,
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  Speaker 2: that we haven't had the chance to play, like Tabala
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  Speaker 2: Rasa for example. It's just like it's got this bouncy
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  Speaker 2: energy and it's become one of my favorite songs to
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  Speaker 2: form live, you know. And then I wasn't expecting it
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  Speaker 2: to be, you know, from what maybe my preferences were
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  Speaker 2: on the track list. I was like, really really taken
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  Speaker 2: aback by you know how much people you know got
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  Speaker 2: into it and were balancing and having a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: So Yeah, they were received very well, very nice.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned before the fact that you guys cross over
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  Speaker 4: genre's a lot of new music can quite another step
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  Speaker 4: forward on hyper violence, Like the press release said that
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  Speaker 4: the album showed the evolution of your fresh and exciting sound, Like,
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  Speaker 4: did the fans embrace that next movement forward from you
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  Speaker 4: guys on this.
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  Speaker 3: What you think?
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  Speaker 1: I think? So?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think there was a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: that this album was their starting point, so they might
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  Speaker 2: not have had anything to compare it to. But I
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  Speaker 2: definitely think that there's been a lot of support for
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  Speaker 2: this direction, and you know, I think we're a lot
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  Speaker 2: more clear as to where we're headed moving forward, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with newer music, you know, taking that feedback from getting
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  Speaker 2: to tour and play these shows and seeing what works
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  Speaker 2: and what doesn't, and having a much clearer idea of
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  Speaker 2: how to execute that and while still also keeping it
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  Speaker 2: fresh and keeping it true true to us.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, this.
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  Speaker 4: Expression might be a bit difficult to answer. Ro but
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  Speaker 4: along those lines like how much bewty you growth do
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  Speaker 4: you think?
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  Speaker 3: When left?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've still got a lot left
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  Speaker 2: in us, because you know, at this stage, we haven't
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  Speaker 2: really had the opportunity to collaborate with not just other artists,
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  Speaker 2: but even just like other songwriters and producers and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: We've always kept it very in house and DIY.
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  Speaker 2: And we've it's you know, gotten us up to this
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  Speaker 2: point and we're still writing new music and you know,
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  Speaker 2: as we've sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of changed lineup and the dynamics changed.
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  Speaker 2: As well, that's I think also a bit of vehicle
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  Speaker 2: to keep it things fresh. So you know, like we
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  Speaker 2: just finished a writing week in La last week, working
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  Speaker 2: with some producers over there and just just writing. And
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  Speaker 2: this is the first time that we've written with our
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  Speaker 2: new standing guitarist, Justin and you know, he's slotted in
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  Speaker 2: so seamlessly. So I think there's there's still quite a
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  Speaker 2: bit left in the tank, I think, and you know
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  Speaker 2: that's only added tenfold by the prospect of collaboration and
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  Speaker 2: features and all sorts of things like that. So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're always trying to keep it exciting and in a
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  Speaker 2: way sort of a little bit uncomfortable for ourselves by
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  Speaker 2: trying new things. So yeah, I know we're always were
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  Speaker 2: always willing to experiment and you know, keep keeping it fresh.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, before you go, liamb I got a new
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  Speaker 4: segment I've started called photo Bomb. So basically, before I
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  Speaker 4: speak to you, I troll through your social media and
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  Speaker 4: I come up with you photos and I want to
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  Speaker 4: know a bit more about your ones. Are all pretty good,
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  Speaker 4: there's nothing too embarrassing in yours.
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  Speaker 3: We'll start off on this one.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: This is obviously from a recent tour. Oh yeah, what
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  Speaker 3: a great photo.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's to Ophelia. She captures these moments so naturally
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  Speaker 1: and so seamlessly. So yeah, we want to know what
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  Speaker 1: was going on in this picture.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, wait were you?
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  Speaker 1: We were on our drive, so we had landed in La.
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  Speaker 2: We picked up our RV, which she can sort of
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  Speaker 2: see in the foreground there, and we were on our
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  Speaker 2: four day trek to Minneapolis, and I think where we
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  Speaker 2: are there? I'm trying to think now because it was
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  Speaker 2: really early on. This is like one of the first
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  Speaker 2: two days, first two three days into the tour. We
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  Speaker 2: hadn't quite hit snow yet, and we parked outside a
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  Speaker 2: gas station and I don't know what we're doing. I
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  Speaker 2: think we're having like a food break or a snack
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  Speaker 2: break or something like that. So Indian and I we
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  Speaker 2: bought a texts from from Walmart and that because that
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  Speaker 2: came with us every day of the entire tour, and
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  Speaker 2: it actually became a real good sort of icebreaker piece
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  Speaker 2: for us and the rest of the bands because all
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the bands wanted to get involved in a.
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  Speaker 1: Bit of game of catch.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, you're at the moment sort of seeing the
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  Speaker 2: moment where India is.
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  Speaker 1: About to to catch one of my throws.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, that would have been awesome too, because it's
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  Speaker 4: it's your game and your throating rules, and every band
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  Speaker 4: had to do what you said.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're I think I'm trying to think where
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  Speaker 1: we are.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're I think we might be in Arizona
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  Speaker 2: in this photo. I think it's somewhere near in the desert.
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  Speaker 2: It's sort of in the sort of the south in
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  Speaker 2: the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Would have been a great experience driving across.
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  Speaker 2: The broh Absolutely, I absolutely love it over there in
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  Speaker 2: the States, and it's it's interesting because I think about
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  Speaker 2: how America and Australia like geographically speaking, they they fit
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  Speaker 2: into each other, like they're very similar sized land masks,
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  Speaker 2: which you wouldn't think you'd think that America.
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  Speaker 1: Was so much bigger, but it's just the population is
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  Speaker 1: like what.
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  Speaker 2: More like it's they've got million and we've got twenty
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  Speaker 2: six million or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like it's I don't know, don't check the
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  Speaker 1: math on that, but it's at that time mate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but the the point being is the drives
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  Speaker 2: you're doing are similar to Australia, but you're just you're
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  Speaker 2: stopping so much more frequently and there's a lot more
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  Speaker 2: in between. And Yeah, it's an incredible experience watching all
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  Speaker 2: the different environmental biomes just change as you as you
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  Speaker 2: hit a different region.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's stilling.
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  Speaker 4: The second one I've got for you is just like
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  Speaker 4: the signs like this actually work, Like do you ever
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  Speaker 4: do you ever read it what you're told?
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to recall.
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  Speaker 2: I think that might have been a show where we
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  Speaker 2: actually did play trenches, but.
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  Speaker 3: It was one of those thoughts you for that person.
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  Speaker 1: I think it just so happened to be in the
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  Speaker 1: set list.
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  Speaker 2: But normally, for those that are thinking about bringing a
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  Speaker 2: sign to the to the shows, it generally doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: It generally doesn't work because we've got usually a set
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  Speaker 2: time and we've filled that time with songs. Oftentimes we
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  Speaker 2: don't have enough time to fit in all the songs
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  Speaker 2: that we want to play. Trenches is one that I
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  Speaker 2: will always go into bat for. It's one of my
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: favorites to play live and there's no other song like it.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: But we haven't really had a show that felt like
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it was appropriate to do it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe this last make them Suffer tour.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: But the guys were making an argument that like, oh,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: maybe it's not quite representative of what the rest of
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: our sound sounds like. So we ended up we ended
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: up taking it out for what it was, what our
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty minutes set. But yeah, no, I
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: love playing Trenches. I love when people have signs. There
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: was one person Actually I know this is a complete
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: random aside, but we have like sometimes little things like
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: people will write on their phone like a little message
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: when they will be at the barrier. And we had
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: one in Seattle recently where they had this. I don't
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: know if you've seen them. They're like these little dolls
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: called La Boo boos. They're like little monster things. They're
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: like these little soft toys. You can get them at
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like those pop marts sort of spots, little figurines. Anyway,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: they're very incredibly rare at this at the moment, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: someone had brought one and they said, can you perform
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the war with my labuobuo? They'd written it on their
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: phone and I was mid performance and I just grabbed
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: it and I started doing all these kind of crazy
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: things with the doll.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, so you know you can. You can
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: give us messages.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: It's probably the way I'm going to be able to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: like interpret and hear what you what you need to
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: say as well.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: So they how did you read it off their phone?
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Well they were on the barrier, so they just kind
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: of had it written like this, and then they just
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: started just pointing at it and eventually got they got
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: my attention.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Thanks very much for your time, Broe. Best of luck
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: at the opportunity towards guys. You will all be deserved
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: winners if you get it. But it'd be good to
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: see you, guys. You've done a lot of years. Ban
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: be nice to see it. But I'll see you there.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: I'll come up and we'll have a beer and
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Say good ay, please do Thanks Chris, thank you for
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: chatting with me.