Latest / Real America with Dan Ball / 5/26/26 Guest Host Riley Lewis w/ Robert Spencer, Chris Johnson, Mark Lamb, Tony Ortiz, Walter Hudson
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America tensions in Tehran, targeted US
- 0:05Speaker 1: strikes destroy Iranian threats in the Persian Gulf, but with
- 0:09Speaker 1: both sides vowing to keep high stakes peace talks on track,
- 0:13Speaker 1: will this sudden violence shatter what is a very fragile
- 0:16Speaker 1: ceasefire plus a chaotic teenage street takeover. These five police
- 0:21Speaker 1: officers in Chicago injured and an eighteen year old facing
- 0:25Speaker 1: attempted murder charges, sparking an explosive feud over whether city
- 0:29Speaker 1: leaders are letting the anarchy rule the streets. And a
- 0:34Speaker 1: bitter one hundred and twenty million dollar battle in Texas
- 0:38Speaker 1: between Senator John Cornyn and Trump backed Ken Paxton heads
- 0:42Speaker 1: to the ballot box tonight, forcing voters to choose to
- 0:44Speaker 1: sold the Republican Party in a high stakes proxy war
- 0:47Speaker 1: that could decide control of the US Senate going into November.
- 0:51Speaker 1: I'm Readley Lewis in for Dan ball. Real America starts
- 0:54Speaker 1: right now.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Well, the straits have to be open. They're going to
- 1:04Speaker 2: be open. When where the other So they need to
- 1:06Speaker 2: be open. What's happening? There's a law food said legal,
- 1:08Speaker 2: it's some sustainable.
- 1:09Speaker 3: In the world.
- 1:09Speaker 2: It's unacceptable.
- 1:11Speaker 4: I don't know any country in the world, the Russians
- 1:16Speaker 4: that I have a favor of the tolding system, the Chinese.
- 1:18Speaker 2: And I'm in favor of the tolling system.
- 1:19Speaker 5: And there's no country in the world that's a favor
- 1:21Speaker 5: of the tolling system except the regime in Iran, and
- 1:24Speaker 5: that's not acceptable.
- 1:25Speaker 2: That means that cannot happen. The straits need to be open, unimpeded.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Without tools, both folks, Welcome to the show. Riley lewis
- 1:32Speaker 1: once again filling in for Dan Ball our top story.
- 1:35Speaker 1: You just heard it right there from Sex State Rivio.
- 1:37Speaker 1: The US military launching targeted self defense strikes in southern
- 1:42Speaker 1: Iran following a sudden escalation inside the Persian Gulf. US
- 1:47Speaker 1: Central Command confirmed this operation, stating that forces active active
- 1:51Speaker 1: to protect troops from immediate threats posed by Iranian forces
- 1:55Speaker 1: near the strategic port city of Bandar Abbas Now. According
- 1:59Speaker 1: to senior US officials, the situation erupted when two Iranian
- 2:04Speaker 1: Revolutionary Guard Corps IRGC boats were spotted actively laying mines
- 2:09Speaker 1: in the Strait of Hormuz. American forces then moved quickly
- 2:14Speaker 1: to eliminate both vessels. Additionally, a US military aircraft was
- 2:18Speaker 1: targeted by an Iranian surface to air missile site, prompting
- 2:21Speaker 1: a rapid retaliatory strike that destroyed the launch site. But
- 2:27Speaker 1: despite the sudden surge in combat, again, official stress that
- 2:31Speaker 1: the broader, weeks long Pakistani mediated ceasefire somehow remains intact
- 2:37Speaker 1: despite it all, folks, at least, defensive actions come at
- 2:40Speaker 1: a highly sensitive, defining moment in the saga with Iran,
- 2:45Speaker 1: as President Trump announced that peace negotiations with the Iranian
- 2:49Speaker 1: regime are quote proceeding nicely, but wild triump warn that
- 2:54Speaker 1: any failure in diplomatic talks would lead to an even
- 2:57Speaker 1: larger military response. Both sides appear determined for now, at least,
- 3:02Speaker 1: to keep the peace deal on track. For example, Iran's
- 3:06Speaker 1: foreign ministry has fiercely condemned the overnight American operation, labeling
- 3:09Speaker 1: it a grave violation of the ceasefire in a blatant
- 3:14Speaker 1: demonstration of bad faith. Those are their words, folks. At
- 3:17Speaker 1: the same time, officials in Tehran warned that Washington would
- 3:21Speaker 1: bear full responsibility for all consequences, declaring that no act
- 3:26Speaker 1: of aggression, as they said, will go unanswered. The diplomatic
- 3:31Speaker 1: pushback or backlash, I should say, comes to a highly
- 3:34Speaker 1: delicate moment, a very fragile moment, as both countries participate
- 3:38Speaker 1: in high stakes peace talks, again mediated by Pakistan. According
- 3:42Speaker 1: to sources, the framework involves a proposed fourteen point memo
- 3:47Speaker 1: of understanding, which includes the potential surrender or destruction of
- 3:50Speaker 1: Iran's enriched uranium under international supervision. But now back in Washington,
- 3:56Speaker 1: coming back from overseas, the Trump White House remains unphased
- 3:59Speaker 1: by fiery rhetoric. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, a future
- 4:04Speaker 1: president in my opinion, made the US position very clear,
- 4:07Speaker 1: stating that a peace deal is still possible, but also
- 4:11Speaker 1: emphasizing at the same time that President Trump is determined
- 4:14Speaker 1: to either secure a good deal or walk away with
- 4:17Speaker 1: no deal at all, and with regional tensions once again
- 4:21Speaker 1: hitting a boiling point, and that is where we are.
- 4:24Speaker 1: International pressure is mounting for both sides to step back
- 4:29Speaker 1: from the brink. People are calling for de escalation. China
- 4:34Speaker 1: even has officially weighed on this crisis, forcefully urging all
- 4:38Speaker 1: parties concerned to immediately de escalate and honor their cease
- 4:42Speaker 1: fire commitments. Speaking from Beijing, China's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman stressed
- 4:47Speaker 1: that disputes must be resolved through peaceful dialogue and negotiation
- 4:51Speaker 1: rather than military action. She stated that Beijing is maintaining
- 4:55Speaker 1: close comms with all relevant nations, including Tehran, to ensure
- 5:00Speaker 1: the early restoration of peace and stability across the Gulf.
- 5:04Speaker 1: But while international partners pressed for calm, Washington is signaling
- 5:09Speaker 1: that its patience has limits. Sex State Marcarubio once again
- 5:13Speaker 1: made it clear that while diplomacy is the top priority,
- 5:17Speaker 1: military options remain firmly on the table.
- 5:20Speaker 5: The desire the President has, his preference is to find
- 5:25Speaker 5: a diplomatic way that these problems can be solved. That's
- 5:28Speaker 5: always the president's preference. He would much rather have me
- 5:32Speaker 5: and the Department of States solved this problem than the
- 5:35Speaker 5: Department of War having to solve this problem. But the
- 5:37Speaker 5: problem is going to be solved one way or the other.
- 5:40Speaker 1: You heard it there, folks, unequivocally. But while administration officials
- 5:44Speaker 1: emphasized that a diplomatic resolution is still the ultimate goal,
- 5:48Speaker 1: the human cost of the conflict itself remains front and center.
- 5:51Speaker 1: In Washington, d C. Speaking at Arlington National Cemetery, President
- 5:56Speaker 1: Trump paused to reflect on the ultimate sacrifice made by
- 5:59Speaker 1: American service members during the intense weeks of combat.
- 6:02Speaker 6: Watch this in Operation Epic Fury, we lost thirteen wonderful souls,
- 6:07Speaker 6: wonderful special people. These incredible men and women gave their
- 6:11Speaker 6: lives to ensure that the world's number one stage sponsor
- 6:15Speaker 6: of terror will never have a nuclear weapon.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Oh and they won't. They will never have a nuclear weapon.
- 6:21Speaker 7: I'm sure.
- 6:22Speaker 2: I'm sure you know that.
- 6:28Speaker 1: And here now with his thoughts on the program is
- 6:30Speaker 1: Robert Spencer, author, scholar of the Region, and director of
- 6:33Speaker 1: Jihad Watch. Robert, my friend, Thank you for being here.
- 6:38Speaker 8: Always good to talk to you. Riley, thank you.
- 6:40Speaker 1: So your reaction. And I think it's important that we
- 6:43Speaker 1: emphasize how everything is changing almost by the second. But
- 6:48Speaker 1: what do you make of it? I mean, really really
- 6:50Speaker 1: fragile ceasefire between Iran and the US. We'll say technically holding,
- 6:55Speaker 1: but tensions are skyrocketing quickly. What do you think is
- 6:58Speaker 1: going to happen here?
- 7:00Speaker 8: Understand the pressure that both sides are under, and certainly
- 7:03Speaker 8: I understand how the president wants to have a negotiated settlement,
- 7:07Speaker 8: But the fact is that the longer the cease fire
- 7:10Speaker 8: remains in place, and the longer the Islamic Republic has
- 7:14Speaker 8: to be able to regroup without having to deal with
- 7:18Speaker 8: particular attacks. The stronger the Islamic Republic will grow, and
- 7:23Speaker 8: ultimately the conflict will be prolonged. It will not end.
- 7:27Speaker 8: The Islamic regime in Tehran will never actually honor any
- 7:32Speaker 8: settlement it agrees to. It is based on the ideology.
- 7:39Speaker 8: It's based on has a developed doctrine of deception in
- 7:43Speaker 8: order to lull your enemies into complacency and gather strength
- 7:47Speaker 8: at gain time, thereby to gather strength to fight again
- 7:51Speaker 8: more effectively. The regime itself is unshakably hostile to the
- 7:57Speaker 8: United States. It is only going to use use time
- 8:00Speaker 8: without attacks to build up its strength, and it's never
- 8:05Speaker 8: going to come to a point where we can say
- 8:08Speaker 8: now there will be lasting peace between the United States
- 8:10Speaker 8: and Iran. The only way there will ever be lasting
- 8:13Speaker 8: peace between the United States in Iran is that the
- 8:15Speaker 8: Islamic Republic falls and the new regime is in place
- 8:18Speaker 8: in Tehran.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Understood, So as far as tomorrow goes, then Robert is there.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Because everybody's talking about a potential deal. I know that
- 8:28Speaker 1: negotiations are happening, that's being reported, but it leaves me
- 8:32Speaker 1: wondering genuinely. Is there even really a deal to be had,
- 8:36Speaker 1: one that both sides would agree to, And if so,
- 8:39Speaker 1: what does that look like?
- 8:41Speaker 8: Well, the President wants the Iranians to turn over their
- 8:45Speaker 8: nuclear material. Yes, the Iranians have already refused. But see
- 8:49Speaker 8: even this shows the duplicity of the Islamic regime in
- 8:52Speaker 8: Tehran because they have enriched uranium to just below weapons
- 8:57Speaker 8: grade level. There is no peaceful means. There's no peaceful
- 9:01Speaker 8: reason why they would have enriched uranium to that point.
- 9:06Speaker 8: The only reason why uranium is ever enriched to that
- 9:10Speaker 8: point is to make nuclear weapons. So either they plan
- 9:14Speaker 8: to make nuclear weapons in the future or they don't
- 9:19Speaker 8: really have any idea what they're doing. I think it's
- 9:22Speaker 8: much more likely that they plan to make nuclear weapons
- 9:25Speaker 8: in the future. They have repeatedly denied any intention of
- 9:30Speaker 8: ever turning over this nuclear material to the United States
- 9:34Speaker 8: or anyone else. This shows that they are both dishonest
- 9:37Speaker 8: and a menaced to the rest of the world.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more there, Robert, thank
- 9:41Speaker 1: you for shedding a light on that, because a lot
- 9:43Speaker 1: of people are wondering. I'll leave you with this. President
- 9:46Speaker 1: Trump has his work cutout for him. I mean, I
- 9:49Speaker 1: don't know what you do here. I don't envy that
- 9:51Speaker 1: position at all, but I am praying for him. I
- 9:53Speaker 1: wish him godspeed, and I want to thank you for
- 9:55Speaker 1: your time today very much.
- 9:57Speaker 8: Thank you.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, Whiless, situation between the US
- 10:02Speaker 1: and Iran heats up, as we just discussed with Robert Spencer.
- 10:05Speaker 1: So does the situation between Israel and pezbal Law, a
- 10:09Speaker 1: terror proxy of the Iranian regime. We'll tell you all
- 10:12Speaker 1: about it, Plus pulls for the Senate runoff between John
- 10:15Speaker 1: Cornyn and Ken Paxton, who's backed by President Trump in
- 10:18Speaker 1: Texas close to night. Tonight is the night, folks. We'll
- 10:21Speaker 1: share our predictions and all the latest news on that front.
- 10:24Speaker 1: And finally, Vice President jd. Vance holds a historic meeting
- 10:28Speaker 1: with state ags at the White House. Will dive right
- 10:31Speaker 1: into it. All that is coming up on Real America.
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- 11:18Speaker 10: What this requires of us now is to increase the blows,
- 11:21Speaker 10: to increase intensity.
- 11:22Speaker 1: We will smite them with overwhelming force. And that escalation
- 11:27Speaker 1: is already underway as we speak, happening right now. Following
- 11:31Speaker 1: the Prime Minister's video address, something we all just saw
- 11:35Speaker 1: Israelly Defense Force has launched a fresh wave of heavy
- 11:37Speaker 1: air strikes targeting more than seventy Hesbolah infrastructure sites all
- 11:43Speaker 1: over southern Lebanon and the Eastern Border region as well,
- 11:47Speaker 1: in order to press the accelerator. Comes despite a very
- 11:51Speaker 1: very tender, fragile US broker truce that took effect back
- 11:56Speaker 1: in mid April. He may remember that, folks now IS
- 12:00Speaker 1: officials say this ceasefire, we'll call it, has been severely
- 12:05Speaker 1: tested by what they call a surge in hes BiLaw
- 12:09Speaker 1: drone strikes. The group has reportedly fired more than one
- 12:14Speaker 1: thousand unmanned aerial vehicles and on top of that, seven
- 12:19Speaker 1: hundred rockets at Israeli positions in just over a week.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Many of the weapons are advanced as well, fiber optic
- 12:27Speaker 1: drones designed to evade any sort of electronic jamming, a
- 12:31Speaker 1: common defense for drone attacks. Now, the escalation also comes
- 12:35Speaker 1: at a very critical moment. Actually, I would say it's
- 12:39Speaker 1: not just critical, but a pivotal moment, even a defining
- 12:43Speaker 1: moment for regional diplomacy. See the US State Department announced
- 12:47Speaker 1: that Israel and Lebanon have agreed to a forty five
- 12:50Speaker 1: day extension of that truce we just mentioned. The extension
- 12:54Speaker 1: was hammered out following two days of what officials called
- 12:57Speaker 1: productive talks in Washington. However, the path to peace remains
- 13:03Speaker 1: difficult and extremely muddy at best. After all, his Blah
- 13:08Speaker 1: is not a party to the ceasefire agreement and has
- 13:11Speaker 1: rejected the accord, meaning high stakes military talks set for
- 13:15Speaker 1: this Friday at the end of this week folks at
- 13:18Speaker 1: the Pentagon will take place amid continuing and violent clashes
- 13:22Speaker 1: on the ground. Now, joining me next here to discuss
- 13:26Speaker 1: a very interesting guest. He's an energy specialist, a geopolitical analyst,
- 13:30Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, Mister Chris Johnson, Chris, thank
- 13:35Speaker 1: you for your time. Great to see you, brother. Every
- 13:38Speaker 1: single day something new, hundreds of rockets and drones going
- 13:42Speaker 1: off all the time, huge escalation happening in Lebanon, all
- 13:47Speaker 1: while the US and Iran have their own very fragile
- 13:50Speaker 1: ceasefire as well, that arguably being broken recently. What do
- 13:55Speaker 1: you make of it? I mean, what are you seeing
- 13:57Speaker 1: here on the ground and what do you think this
- 13:59Speaker 1: is all good?
- 14:01Speaker 11: Yeah, these ceasefires need to be We need to be
- 14:03Speaker 11: sure that these are not opportunities to recover and reload
- 14:06Speaker 11: for the folks that want to fight against US and
- 14:08Speaker 11: our allies. And we're seeing the pinch point of the
- 14:11Speaker 11: straight UPFOM moves being a real limiting factor for Iran.
- 14:14Speaker 11: A lot of folks are obviously correctly worried about increasing
- 14:18Speaker 11: US at the pump, but ultimately the way that they
- 14:20Speaker 11: are able to rebuild their economy and reload their military
- 14:24Speaker 11: is by selling energy abroad. And so the more that
- 14:26Speaker 11: we can create that pinch point for them and make
- 14:28Speaker 11: this hurt and make it so that these ceasefires are
- 14:31Speaker 11: leading to negotiations and not just an opportunity to reload,
- 14:34Speaker 11: the better that the outcomes are going to be for everyone,
- 14:37Speaker 11: not just those in the region, but for us as well,
- 14:39Speaker 11: who need to see this straight opened up.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Well, And one thing to your point here about the
- 14:42Speaker 1: whole region wide conflict, because the Middle East is this
- 14:47Speaker 1: is the precarious position. We haven't seen this kind of
- 14:49Speaker 1: ongoing combat in a long time in terms of the
- 14:53Speaker 1: scale and the severity and the toll it's taking on
- 14:57Speaker 1: the civilians who get caught in the crossfire. But there's
- 15:00Speaker 1: a problem, right, We have negotiations going on, we have talks,
- 15:04Speaker 1: diplomacy is being pushed, but there's a cloud that hangs
- 15:07Speaker 1: over it, right because to your point, Israel and America,
- 15:11Speaker 1: we know what Hasblah's goal is to wipe Israel in America,
- 15:15Speaker 1: clean off the map. That's not a secret. And for Israel,
- 15:19Speaker 1: the goal obviously is to take away Iron's ability to
- 15:24Speaker 1: fund its proxies like Hasbelah and to wage war and
- 15:27Speaker 1: support terrorism. So this is I don't know how you
- 15:31Speaker 1: try to find any kind of compromise or I don't
- 15:34Speaker 1: know how you proceed with a negotiation, Chris, when you
- 15:37Speaker 1: have such radically different goals, and those aren't secrets either. So,
- 15:41Speaker 1: with talks lined up for later this week, and presumably
- 15:44Speaker 1: past that, what are you expecting to see. Do you
- 15:47Speaker 1: think we might see some kind of headway toward peace
- 15:51Speaker 1: or is peace even really possible?
- 15:54Speaker 11: Gonna be really tough, But hopefully this is not where
- 15:56Speaker 11: we see the administration and the President go wobbly, as
- 15:59Speaker 11: they say, And so making sure that we are going
- 16:02Speaker 11: to do the goals that we set out to achieve,
- 16:05Speaker 11: which is making sure that Iron is not funding proxies
- 16:08Speaker 11: in the region that are creating chaos. And the best
- 16:10Speaker 11: way to do that is limits limit Iron's ability to
- 16:12Speaker 11: obviously get a nuclear weapon, but also limit their ability
- 16:15Speaker 11: to export energy. And so if we are not just
- 16:19Speaker 11: sanctioning them, but making it so, we are producing so
- 16:22Speaker 11: much energy for the rest of the world, oil, natural gas,
- 16:25Speaker 11: all forms of energy. We are now manufacturing gigawatts of
- 16:29Speaker 11: solar panels every year. The more that we are building
- 16:32Speaker 11: that here and exporting it here drives prices down so
- 16:35Speaker 11: that they are not able to enrich themselves and continue
- 16:38Speaker 11: to fight. And as long as they are feeling that
- 16:41Speaker 11: and seeing it more and more, obviously they're willing to
- 16:43Speaker 11: take on a lot of actual damage. We know they
- 16:45Speaker 11: don't care about the civilian toll because it was just
- 16:48Speaker 11: months ago that they were shooting thousands of their own
- 16:50Speaker 11: citizens in the streets. So where we have to make
- 16:53Speaker 11: it hurt is on the energy front by out competing them,
- 16:56Speaker 11: by out producing them, out building them, and making sure
- 16:58Speaker 11: our allies are on the same pace US and ensuring
- 17:01Speaker 11: that countries like China that are buying oil from Iran
- 17:04Speaker 11: are feeling a hurt for.
- 17:05Speaker 2: That as well.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Absolutely, so, final sort of thought here the energy question
- 17:10Speaker 1: that you're alluding to. Everybody knows that prices of the
- 17:14Speaker 1: pump are increasing, right. It doesn't matter, Chris, what side
- 17:19Speaker 1: of the asle you're on. It doesn't matter if your
- 17:21Speaker 1: pro Israel engaging has the law and the US military
- 17:25Speaker 1: engaging Iran, doesn't matter if you're radically opposed to it.
- 17:29Speaker 1: And I think there's people in both camps and both parties.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Prices are rising, and I'd like to take a minute
- 17:36Speaker 1: to just explain more about what you're saying in terms
- 17:38Speaker 1: of how we get out of it. We know that
- 17:40Speaker 1: oil is a global commodity, and we know that twenty
- 17:43Speaker 1: percent of the world's supply is traveling through that critical
- 17:47Speaker 1: maritime bottleneck, the Strait of Hormuz, right through which you
- 17:50Speaker 1: get to carg Island where they're loading these supertankers in
- 17:53Speaker 1: Iran full of millions and millions of barrels of oil
- 17:56Speaker 1: per day. I think they can move like seven or
- 17:59Speaker 1: eight million barls of oil in a single day through
- 18:02Speaker 1: the Strait, maybe even more, got it. Okay, maybe it's
- 18:04Speaker 1: closer to twenty million. But we don't buy oil from Iran.
- 18:08Speaker 1: And I'm worried about this because we're going into the
- 18:12Speaker 1: most critical midterm elections this country may have in November,
- 18:16Speaker 1: and if prices are through the roof, then the party
- 18:19Speaker 1: and power the America First Party will lose control or
- 18:23Speaker 1: at least lose seats. So could you walk us through
- 18:26Speaker 1: why this issue with the straight up four moves is
- 18:28Speaker 1: affecting the energy market here in America, even though we
- 18:31Speaker 1: don't buy oil from Iran, and other things that we
- 18:34Speaker 1: could do practically right now on the ground to lower
- 18:38Speaker 1: prices and give Americans some economic relief going into November. Yeah.
- 18:42Speaker 11: So, obviously, oil is a globally treated commodity, and the
- 18:45Speaker 11: kinds of oil that we can refine into things like
- 18:47Speaker 11: jet fuel are really specific, and so our refineries use
- 18:51Speaker 11: a heavier crude that we often cannot produce here to ourselves,
- 18:56Speaker 11: so we have to get it from abroad, and that's
- 18:57Speaker 11: similar for a lot of other countries. We need to
- 19:00Speaker 11: one make sure that we can use our own oil,
- 19:03Speaker 11: so that's retrofitting and building new refineries that use the
- 19:05Speaker 11: light sweet crew that we produce here in the United States.
- 19:08Speaker 11: The other part of the equation to keep prices down
- 19:12Speaker 11: is just to make more energy of all kinds. And
- 19:14Speaker 11: so the more that we are diversified on this, the
- 19:15Speaker 11: more that we are producing as many different forms of
- 19:18Speaker 11: energy as possible. I mentioned, you know, building solar manufacturing. Here,
- 19:21Speaker 11: we're building new nuclear The President is adamant about building
- 19:25Speaker 11: ten new gigawatt reactors, building battery technology, building all of
- 19:29Speaker 11: the above energy solutions that's going to produce more energy.
- 19:32Speaker 11: Into the midterm question, I think, yes, voters are going
- 19:35Speaker 11: to be concerned about higher prices. But when the stated
- 19:37Speaker 11: goal of the Democratic Party and much of the environmental
- 19:39Speaker 11: left is higher energy prices, it seems hard for me
- 19:43Speaker 11: to see the jump logically of I'm mad about energy
- 19:46Speaker 11: prices being high, so I'm going to vote for the
- 19:47Speaker 11: other guys who like high energy prices. So Luckily, I
- 19:50Speaker 11: think the energy issue still works well in Republican favor. Oh.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I hope you're right about that, Chris. I know where
- 19:57Speaker 1: the logical leads right in minds sometimes and the heat
- 20:02Speaker 1: of the moment, people don't always vote logically. So we'll
- 20:06Speaker 1: see what happens. But I do appreciate that insight. And
- 20:08Speaker 1: one last thing, you run the American Energy Leadership Institute.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Could you tell our audience a little bit about what
- 20:13Speaker 1: that organization does and how can they learn more.
- 20:16Speaker 11: Yeah, we're the arms, hands and feet of the energy
- 20:18Speaker 11: dominance agenda from the grassroots to the grasstops, and we
- 20:21Speaker 11: want to make sure everybody knows what the administration and
- 20:24Speaker 11: members of Congress are doing and need to do to
- 20:26Speaker 11: make sure we stay energy dominant and that energy dominance
- 20:29Speaker 11: continues to grow. So if you want to work with
- 20:31Speaker 11: a bunch of you plucky younger Republicans and Conservatives that
- 20:35Speaker 11: are trying to get this new energy economy built with
- 20:38Speaker 11: this administration and future Republican administration, check us out at
- 20:41Speaker 11: aeliaction dot org.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Fantastic, Chris, thank you for your expertise and thank you
- 20:46Speaker 1: for your time.
- 20:47Speaker 11: Thanks for having me up next on.
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- 21:52Speaker 4: This car just ran through a whole crowd of Chicago
- 21:54Speaker 4: police officers while we clear out to the block party.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Oh my god, or oh my god. This dude right
- 22:07Speaker 1: here just ran through a whole crowd of Chicago Police office. Folks.
- 22:12Speaker 1: It's not Mogadishu. It's the streets of America. It's a
- 22:15Speaker 1: scene spreading like a plague all over the country. Teenagers
- 22:20Speaker 1: in modified machines, staging reckless, careless, dangerous, and occasionally fatal
- 22:26Speaker 1: street takeovers, as they call them. The latest case involving
- 22:30Speaker 1: what you all just saw right there, a teenager is
- 22:33Speaker 1: now facing multiple accounts of attempted murder murder folks after
- 22:38Speaker 1: a chaotic teen takeover on Chicago's West Side left five
- 22:42Speaker 1: police officers injured. Now authority say eighteen year old Rashaw
- 22:47Speaker 1: Johnson was behind the wheel of a blue Sedan early
- 22:50Speaker 1: Sunday morning near Lewis Street into Roosevelt Road. Officers were
- 22:55Speaker 1: trying to disperse a large after prom crowd when Johnson
- 23:00Speaker 1: and allegedly reportedly drove into the wrong lane, striking five
- 23:04Speaker 1: officers on foot before crashing into a squad car and
- 23:08Speaker 1: even offense. Now Fortunately, thank god, all five officers were
- 23:13Speaker 1: hospitalized with non life threatening injuries and they are in
- 23:18Speaker 1: fair condition. But in the wake of the incident, the spineless,
- 23:22Speaker 1: soft on crime communist Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, took
- 23:27Speaker 1: to social media to address the violence. And that's what
- 23:29Speaker 1: this is, violence against the city's law enforcement, writing this,
- 23:35Speaker 1: our police officers put their lives on the line every
- 23:38Speaker 1: single day to protect our communities and an attack on
- 23:42Speaker 1: them is an attack on the entire city of Chicago.
- 23:46Speaker 1: I am praying for a full and speedy recovery for
- 23:48Speaker 1: the five brave officers injured during Sunday's chaotic gathering. We
- 23:53Speaker 1: will ensure that those responsible for this reckless and dangerous
- 23:57Speaker 1: behavior are held fully accountable under the law. Yeah right. However,
- 24:03Speaker 1: that milk toast response, and it's really just pathetic more
- 24:06Speaker 1: so than anything, is already drawing fierce blowback from within
- 24:09Speaker 1: his own party, his own ranks, folks, not just our side.
- 24:14Speaker 6: See.
- 24:14Speaker 1: The mayor is facing severe criticism today, rightfully so from
- 24:18Speaker 1: fellow Democrat Alderman Raymond Lopez, who blasted the administration's handling
- 24:23Speaker 1: of these ongoing street takeovers. Lopez took to the airwaves
- 24:28Speaker 1: to call out what he describes as a lack of
- 24:30Speaker 1: preventative leadership, arguing that the city's approach to these massive,
- 24:34Speaker 1: unauthorized gatherings is putting first responders directly into harm's way.
- 24:39Speaker 1: They're not putting the first responders or the people first.
- 24:42Speaker 1: The Alderman pushed back against the Mayor's sentiment, demanding harsher
- 24:46Speaker 1: and immediate consequences for these gatherings, so to speak, rather
- 24:50Speaker 1: than bold reactionary statements. But rather than face the music,
- 24:56Speaker 1: the mayor continues to cling to a dangerous progressive fail
- 25:00Speaker 1: anty sea land, this idea of some utopia that will
- 25:02Speaker 1: never exist. It's exactly this kind of reckless mindset where
- 25:07Speaker 1: anarchy has met with an excuse and criminals face zero
- 25:10Speaker 1: actual consequences that guarantees these takeovers will only happen again
- 25:15Speaker 1: and again. Folks, it's not rocket science. Now that brings
- 25:19Speaker 1: us to the mayor. Watch how he defends a system
- 25:21Speaker 1: that essentially invites more violence in the city streets. Unbelievable,
- 25:50Speaker 1: truly unbelievable and unacceptable. By the way, and joining us
- 25:53Speaker 1: now to discuss it all is retired Chriff of Pinal County, Arizona,
- 25:57Speaker 1: and he's running for Congress in Arizona's fifth district, Mark Lamb, Sheriff.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Good sir, thank you for being here. I know you're busy.
- 26:06Speaker 1: You have a country to say of a campaign to run.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Let me start by asking you this. So Brandon Johnson,
- 26:13Speaker 1: this communist clown who somehow got elected mayor of one
- 26:17Speaker 1: of the biggest cities in all of America, says all
- 26:20Speaker 1: the time we can't arrest our way to safety.
- 26:24Speaker 4: What are your thoughts, Well, that's what weak leadership says.
- 26:28Speaker 4: You don't need to arrest them. What you need to
- 26:30Speaker 4: do is hold them accountable when we do arrest them,
- 26:33Speaker 4: and then the arrest will matter. They're not wrong in
- 26:36Speaker 4: the sense that if you arrest everybody and then the
- 26:38Speaker 4: judges and the prosecutors just turn them loose back onto
- 26:41Speaker 4: the street, He's right, those arrests will eventually they'll say
- 26:45Speaker 4: it doesn't matter.
- 26:45Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to jail for the night. They're going
- 26:47Speaker 2: to release me.
- 26:48Speaker 4: And I got people like Brandon Johnson and Merritt Pritzker
- 26:51Speaker 4: who are going to defend these criminals as opposed to
- 26:53Speaker 4: defending and protecting the police and the AUS citizens American citizens.
- 26:58Speaker 2: Instead, they want to continue to pret criminals and illegal aliens.
- 27:02Speaker 4: By the way, as well, what they've got to start
- 27:04Speaker 4: doing is putting pressure on judges and prosecutors to actually
- 27:09Speaker 4: uphold the law and hold people accountable, do not release them,
- 27:13Speaker 4: make them sit and jail and tell their court date,
- 27:15Speaker 4: and then actually have some serious consequences for him. That's
- 27:19Speaker 4: how you fix crime. But to say that, oh, you
- 27:22Speaker 4: can't rest your weigh out.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Of this problem. That's weak leadership, yes.
- 27:26Speaker 1: So agreed, It's not leadership of any kind at all,
- 27:29Speaker 1: which again leads me to a different question about why
- 27:31Speaker 1: anybody in the right mind would ever vote for him.
- 27:33Speaker 1: But just setting that aside for a minute, Jariff, I
- 27:37Speaker 1: want to ask you about the why question. It calls
- 27:40Speaker 1: for speculation. We're not inside of anyone's mind or heart,
- 27:44Speaker 1: fair enough, But why do we see this playing out
- 27:47Speaker 1: in liberal cities all over America? New Orleans, Baltimore, Portland, Seattle,
- 27:52Speaker 1: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York City. This seems
- 27:55Speaker 1: to be a particularly left wing liberal phenomenon of these
- 27:59Speaker 1: team takes. What do you make of that?
- 28:02Speaker 4: Well, it's because elected officials, people that have really like
- 28:05Speaker 4: you said, people like Brandon Johnson.
- 28:07Speaker 2: I don't know how they got elected. But in a
- 28:09Speaker 2: lot of.
- 28:09Speaker 4: These big liberal cities you get these elected officials and
- 28:12Speaker 4: what do they do. They paint you know, law enforcement,
- 28:15Speaker 4: border patrol ice, They paint us as the enemy.
- 28:19Speaker 2: You don't think that has a trickle down effect on it.
- 28:21Speaker 2: And frankly, a lot of this is really bad parenting.
- 28:24Speaker 4: As well, where those parents are super disrespectful to law
- 28:28Speaker 4: enforcement and authority, and you don't think that that's not
- 28:31Speaker 4: going to just transfer.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Over to the children as well as they grow up.
- 28:34Speaker 4: And then when the society says we're not going to
- 28:37Speaker 4: hold you accountable because of your upbringing or because you
- 28:39Speaker 4: were poor, or the color of your skin or whatever
- 28:42Speaker 4: it might be, then all of a sudden, these folks
- 28:45Speaker 4: feel very emboldened to go out and commit crimes.
- 28:48Speaker 2: And this happens more and more in liberal cities. You
- 28:52Speaker 2: just don't see this in cities.
- 28:53Speaker 4: Where people believe in upholding the rule of law and
- 28:56Speaker 4: you have strong law enforcement, you don't see it.
- 29:00Speaker 1: That's interesting. So, given your long career in public service,
- 29:05Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are looking at it
- 29:07Speaker 1: and wondering where is this going? Because here's what I see.
- 29:11Speaker 1: At some point, it starts as a one off thing, right,
- 29:13Speaker 1: it happens every once in a while, these team takeovers
- 29:16Speaker 1: or whatever, but it's not regular. Then it becomes regular habitual.
- 29:21Speaker 1: It starts to escalate. They become more severe, bigger crowds,
- 29:25Speaker 1: more people getting hurt, more cities in America. So if
- 29:29Speaker 1: we don't do more to hold these people accountable and
- 29:31Speaker 1: to hold these leaders accountable, well, leaders where does this
- 29:36Speaker 1: go from here?
- 29:36Speaker 2: Sheriff, Well, it's not good. You know.
- 29:39Speaker 4: This is like raising the child where every time they
- 29:42Speaker 4: want a juice box or whatever, they cry and throw
- 29:44Speaker 4: a fit, and you're like, hello, he's hungry's just leave
- 29:47Speaker 4: them alone. The behavior only progressively gets worse because this
- 29:51Speaker 4: is what they learn. This is learned behavior of not
- 29:54Speaker 4: being held accountable for your actions, for the disrespect of authority.
- 29:59Speaker 4: And I don't want to live in a police state,
- 30:01Speaker 4: but I also don't want people running around unruly, not
- 30:05Speaker 4: following the law. Well, the rest of us are trying
- 30:07Speaker 4: to follow the law. You can't have that in a
- 30:09Speaker 4: good society. And what we're seeing in these cities is
- 30:12Speaker 4: you're seeing more and more people move away from those cities.
- 30:16Speaker 4: The same people, the people that are able to that
- 30:18Speaker 4: have the resources to be able to move, are saying
- 30:21Speaker 4: I'm out, I'm moving to Arizona.
- 30:23Speaker 2: I'm moving to one of these other states, maybe where
- 30:25Speaker 2: they don't have as much problem. But that's the consequences
- 30:28Speaker 2: of it. So, yeah, you asked where it's going to go,
- 30:31Speaker 2: not anywhere good?
- 30:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I agreed. I can't think of I can't tell
- 30:35Speaker 1: you a shareff how many people I know especially from
- 30:38Speaker 1: the West coast, places like Portland, Seattle area, San Francisco.
- 30:41Speaker 1: They're fleeing in droves, Florida, Arizona, you'r state, Texas and beyond, Tennessee, Kentucky,
- 30:46Speaker 1: you name it. But I want to set that aside
- 30:49Speaker 1: for a minute because we just have a little while
- 30:51Speaker 1: left and I want to check in on your campaign.
- 30:53Speaker 1: You've got a very important primary coming up here in
- 30:56Speaker 1: a few weeks. Just tell us about how things are
- 30:59Speaker 1: going and what people can expect to see moving forward.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Well, campaign's going great. We're up by sixty points in
- 31:06Speaker 2: the polls.
- 31:07Speaker 4: They're shooting at us big time, which tells us we're
- 31:09Speaker 4: over the target and we're the threat, and we're going
- 31:11Speaker 4: to continue to push for what is right. Look, American
- 31:14Speaker 4: people are sick and tired of where we're going in
- 31:16Speaker 4: this country in the direction what our politicians, our elected officials,
- 31:20Speaker 4: have done, driven us into debt, continuing to not look
- 31:24Speaker 4: out for the American people, like you saw with Brandon Johnson,
- 31:27Speaker 4: not protecting Americans and.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Standing up for criminals and illegal aliens. Americans are done
- 31:32Speaker 2: with it. We're fed up. We're fed up with the fraud,
- 31:34Speaker 2: We're fed up with it.
- 31:35Speaker 4: All, and we want people that are going to go
- 31:37Speaker 4: back and represent the American people.
- 31:40Speaker 2: That's what we want.
- 31:41Speaker 4: We want people that are authentic and unapologetic defenders of God, family, freedom,
- 31:45Speaker 4: and the Constitution. And that's why our campaign is going
- 31:48Speaker 4: well because people are hungry for that and they see
- 31:51Speaker 4: in me somebody that's going to bring that type of
- 31:55Speaker 4: authenticity and love of country and love of God and
- 31:58Speaker 4: family and freedom to Washington DC and Washington DC.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Like I always say, these more cowboy hats and belt buckles.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. Look and by the way, it's people on
- 32:09Speaker 1: both sides. We need fresh fighters, we need fresh voices,
- 32:12Speaker 1: We need patriots like yourself. So I wish you all
- 32:15Speaker 1: the best of luck, godspeed, and thank you for your time.
- 32:18Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Riley, God bless you.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Up next on the show, All Eyes are on Texas
- 32:23Speaker 1: tonight as the Senate showdown between John Cornyn and Ken
- 32:26Speaker 1: Paxton unfolds. Stay with us, folks, will be right back.
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- 33:11Speaker 1: Hello, folks, welcome back to the show. All eyes are
- 33:14Speaker 1: on the Lone Star State tonight, as Texas voters head
- 33:17Speaker 1: to the polls for a high stakes primary runoff that
- 33:21Speaker 1: will certainly shape not just the future of the Lone
- 33:24Speaker 1: Star State itself, but also the future of the US Senate.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Incumbent Senator John Cornyn, a known rhino if there ever
- 33:32Speaker 1: was one, is facing a fierce challenge from Texas Attorney
- 33:36Speaker 1: General Ken Paxton. Cornyn narrowly led Paxton by a single
- 33:41Speaker 1: point in March. Just think about that, folks, one single
- 33:46Speaker 1: point in the March primary. But the political landscape shifted
- 33:49Speaker 1: dramatically just one week ago. Why here's why. In a
- 33:55Speaker 1: late game bombshell, President Trump officially threw his highly coveted
- 33:59Speaker 1: and endorsement behind Ken Paxton, supercharging the attorney general's campaign,
- 34:06Speaker 1: and that endorsement is already paying its dividends as we
- 34:10Speaker 1: would come to expect. The latest polling conducted by political
- 34:14Speaker 1: forecasting website Race to the White House shows Paxton get
- 34:19Speaker 1: this ahead right now as we speak, with fifty three
- 34:23Speaker 1: percent support and incumbent John Cornyn again a rhino trailing
- 34:28Speaker 1: by fourteen points at just under thirty nine percent. If
- 34:32Speaker 1: you can believe it, folks, this race is about a
- 34:35Speaker 1: whole lot more than just a single Senate seat, although
- 34:39Speaker 1: that's important. It's turned into a brutal one hundred and
- 34:42Speaker 1: twenty million dollar proxy war for the soul of the GOP.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Cornyn and his allies are positioning him as a traditional
- 34:52Speaker 1: institutionalist someone who can win the general election, warning that
- 34:57Speaker 1: Paxton's legal baggage could give Democrats their first statewide win
- 35:01Speaker 1: in decades. Meanwhile, Paxton's MAGA populist America First base is
- 35:08Speaker 1: firing right back straight on, calling Cornyn too quick to
- 35:12Speaker 1: compromise with the radical left anti America Democrat coalition. So
- 35:18Speaker 1: it's a bitter choice between the party's establishment guard, the
- 35:22Speaker 1: old GOP, the Bush era GOP, and it's populist nationalist
- 35:26Speaker 1: MAGA fire brands and Texas voters are making their voices
- 35:30Speaker 1: heard as we speak and we'll see what they decide
- 35:32Speaker 1: to do. But weighing in now is a good friend
- 35:34Speaker 1: of mine, a great journalist based in the state of Texas,
- 35:37Speaker 1: mister Tony Ortiz. Tony, first of all, thank you for
- 35:43Speaker 1: your time. I know you're a very busy guy, especially
- 35:46Speaker 1: given all of the election madness. Let's start with this primary,
- 35:50Speaker 1: or this runoff I should say, happening between John Cornyn
- 35:54Speaker 1: and Ken Paxton. What are you hearing on the ground
- 35:57Speaker 1: from your sources, and what do you think is going
- 35:59Speaker 1: to happen here tonight.
- 36:00Speaker 10: I think Cornyn does not take this. I think it's
- 36:03Speaker 10: a huge loss. M I think Paxton runs away with
- 36:06Speaker 10: it quite easily. Even the prediction markets are showing that
- 36:10Speaker 10: Paxton's up with a ninety six percent chance of victory here.
- 36:14Speaker 10: So I don't see I don't see Corner pulling it off.
- 36:18Speaker 10: In fact, you know that traditionally runoff elections, runoff races
- 36:21Speaker 10: are more attended by the farther right on the spectrum voters,
- 36:28Speaker 10: So it would make sense that Paxton would perform.
- 36:30Speaker 7: Better in a runoff as well.
- 36:32Speaker 10: And you know people have talked to on the ground
- 36:34Speaker 10: and fellow reporters are reporting that even voters that are
- 36:37Speaker 10: at these these voting election these voting polling places are
- 36:42Speaker 10: actually getting violent towards corner voters or corn And supporters.
- 36:45Speaker 1: In one in one.
- 36:46Speaker 10: Situation, Scott Braddock for coren Report reported that a Cornan
- 36:50Speaker 10: volunteer got spin on by a Paxton supporter. So things
- 36:54Speaker 10: are getting pretty aggressive there and so it just we'll
- 36:57Speaker 10: see what happens.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Well, maybe I guess that speaks to the stakes of
- 37:01Speaker 1: this election. No one wants to no one can doonees
- 37:03Speaker 1: violence here. But that's interesting and it leads me to
- 37:06Speaker 1: a question about those stakes and really the critical issues.
- 37:11Speaker 1: So for what you're hearing, what are some of those
- 37:13Speaker 1: top issues that are motivating people at the ballot box
- 37:16Speaker 1: in Texas tonight.
- 37:18Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, a big one obviously is a Trump endorsement, Right,
- 37:20Speaker 10: that's huge, I think for the Republican base. The magabase
- 37:23Speaker 10: is really keen on voting with however the President Trump.
- 37:27Speaker 10: However President Trump tells them to you know, things like
- 37:30Speaker 10: gun rights, a secure border. Those are the big things, right,
- 37:33Speaker 10: Those are issues that in this race really really matter.
- 37:36Speaker 10: And as we all know, Congress from Senator John Cornyn
- 37:40Speaker 10: has been really soft on immigration policies. And gun rights,
- 37:44Speaker 10: and so these are issues that people really care about.
- 37:47Speaker 10: But you know, as well as the fact that just
- 37:49Speaker 10: Ken Paxson is really really well appreciated in Texas. He's
- 37:53Speaker 10: been a phenomenal attorney general, personal issues aside and scandals aside.
- 37:57Speaker 10: As an attorney general, Ken Paxson has been phenomenal, and
- 38:00Speaker 10: I think voters that really resonates with voters.
- 38:03Speaker 1: So now let me broaden this out for our final
- 38:05Speaker 1: question for you, Tony. So, just looking at the landscape
- 38:08Speaker 1: right now, we see Thomas Massey being ousted in his primary, right,
- 38:13Speaker 1: we see lots of people who are aligned with the president,
- 38:16Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, winning their primaries in critical states, in
- 38:20Speaker 1: critical seats all over the country. It's not just Kentucky,
- 38:23Speaker 1: it's not just Texas precedent. We're seeing this all over
- 38:26Speaker 1: the nation.
- 38:26Speaker 6: Right.
- 38:27Speaker 1: What and I'm assuming, well, I'm guessing based on all
- 38:30Speaker 1: available data, right this is an educated guess. I'm guessing
- 38:34Speaker 1: that Cornan is going to go pack his back tonight
- 38:36Speaker 1: and Paston will win that seat. If that's true, there's
- 38:40Speaker 1: clearly a pattern. What does that pattern tell us about
- 38:43Speaker 1: the landscape going into November for Republicans but also for Democrats?
- 38:48Speaker 10: Well, I think it shows that the farther right base
- 38:50Speaker 10: is growing and then the more moderate, maybe middle of
- 38:53Speaker 10: the road Republican base is either getting completely turned off
- 38:56Speaker 10: and not showing up to elections anymore, or they're just
- 38:59Speaker 10: getting some One of the two is happening. You know,
- 39:02Speaker 10: Cornin and supporters and voters I've talked to are pretty
- 39:05Speaker 10: frustrated with, you know, the fact that the President kind
- 39:08Speaker 10: of keeps, you know, butting his head in what they
- 39:11Speaker 10: call it state wider local politics, right, and you know,
- 39:16Speaker 10: people in d C staffers and people I've spoken to
- 39:19Speaker 10: aren't really looking forward to a Ken Pax and actually
- 39:22Speaker 10: appearing in the Senate. They're not looking forward to his
- 39:25Speaker 10: appearance there. So that remains to be seen what happens.
- 39:28Speaker 10: Their Democrats are happy about this though. Democrats in the
- 39:32Speaker 10: taller Ico versus Republican runoff, Democrats are hoping for a
- 39:37Speaker 10: Ken Pax and win, which is very interesting.
- 39:38Speaker 1: It says a lot about the landscape there too. Yeah. Interesting.
- 39:41Speaker 1: I call it strange and kind of insane. But Tony,
- 39:44Speaker 1: the data is what it is. Thank you for your
- 39:46Speaker 1: time today and I appreciate it. Thanks for having me
- 39:50Speaker 1: straight ahead on real America. Vice President jd Vance hosts
- 39:54Speaker 1: State Ags at the White House earlier today as part
- 39:58Speaker 1: of his critical his story never before seen mission to
- 40:03Speaker 1: crack down on a waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money.
- 40:07Speaker 1: We'll tell you all about it after the break.
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- 40:52Speaker 12: We're protecting two classes of victims here. We're protecting the
- 40:55Speaker 12: American taxpayers who shouldn't have their money stolen by fraudsters,
- 40:58Speaker 12: and of course we're protecting the people who need these services.
- 41:01Speaker 12: Fraud is not a victimless crime. This is not somebody
- 41:04Speaker 12: gets to make some money for violating the law and
- 41:07Speaker 12: otherwise it's not a big deal. This is people who
- 41:10Speaker 12: rely on critical services students who rely on student loan services,
- 41:15Speaker 12: sick people who who rely on hospice care, a number
- 41:19Speaker 12: of small businesses who rely on the availability of these
- 41:22Speaker 12: loans so that they can grow their business and hire people.
- 41:25Speaker 12: All of these people, all of our fellow Americans, have
- 41:28Speaker 12: been taken advantage by fraudsters. And the task force is
- 41:31Speaker 12: here to stop it.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Well said and spoken like a true leader, folks, You
- 41:35Speaker 1: heard it right there. Vice President JD. Vance leading a
- 41:39Speaker 1: critical White House task force briefing early recently actually alongside
- 41:44Speaker 1: federal health and consumer protection leaders in this country. And
- 41:48Speaker 1: for what what is going on here? What is the purpose?
- 41:51Speaker 1: What's on the agenda? This cracking down on the skyrocketing
- 41:57Speaker 1: tide of fraud targeting federal benefit programs. Flanked by FTC
- 42:03Speaker 1: Chairman Andrew Ferguson as well as CMS administrator doctor Oz,
- 42:08Speaker 1: the Vice President emphasized an aggressive nationwide frontline against bad
- 42:12Speaker 1: actors exploiting the American taxpayer, So you and me, folks,
- 42:17Speaker 1: and the vulnerable. Their discussions focused heavily on dismantling what
- 42:22Speaker 1: we call systemic abuse, shocking abuse within government assistance programs,
- 42:29Speaker 1: highlighted of course, by a nationwide crackdown on not just thousands,
- 42:34Speaker 1: not just hundreds of thousands, not even millions or tens
- 42:37Speaker 1: of millions, but billions with a B billions of dollars
- 42:42Speaker 1: in fraudulent medicaid and home healthcare claims. NOW Chair Ferguson
- 42:48Speaker 1: pledged unprecedented interagency data sharing to recover stolen money, all
- 42:54Speaker 1: while federal and state partners committed to aggressive compliance rules
- 42:58Speaker 1: to ensure folks that law enforcement leaves no stone unturned
- 43:03Speaker 1: and bringing fraudsters and criminals to justice.
- 43:08Speaker 13: Fifty days ago today, fifty days ago today, Acting Attorney
- 43:12Speaker 13: General Todd Blanche announced the creation of the National Fraud
- 43:15Speaker 13: Enforcement Division at the Department of Justice, and today, fifty
- 43:19Speaker 13: days later, the Fraud Division has announced four hundred and
- 43:23Speaker 13: fifty four hundred and fifty major fraud events occurring across
- 43:27Speaker 13: the country, from charges to convictions to sentences. This task force,
- 43:33Speaker 13: under the Vice President's leadership, we are here to take
- 43:36Speaker 13: it personally every time someone decides to rob the United
- 43:41Speaker 13: States of their money. We are here to take it
- 43:43Speaker 13: personally when someone decides to take money from a program
- 43:48Speaker 13: designed to give money, food, health care to the needy,
- 43:52Speaker 13: the sick, and the elderly.
- 43:54Speaker 1: Music to my ears and that brings us to Minnesota,
- 43:57Speaker 1: the hotbed of massive medicaid fraud. Federal prosecutors have taken
- 44:02Speaker 1: down a whole web and ecosystem of providers that have
- 44:05Speaker 1: been accused of treating public healthcare programs like their own
- 44:10Speaker 1: personal piggy bank. Authority say, for example, that fraudsters targeted
- 44:14Speaker 1: a program designed to help children with autism, something we've
- 44:17Speaker 1: discussed on the show, stealing millions by billing for services
- 44:21Speaker 1: that were never provided, diagnosing children folks children regardless of
- 44:26Speaker 1: their medical necessity, and paying illegal kickbacks to parents. Surprise, surprise.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Now officials call it the largest autism treatment fraud scheme
- 44:36Speaker 1: in all of American history, marking a major federal crackdown
- 44:40Speaker 1: to protect our money in America's children. Then over in
- 44:46Speaker 1: the formerly golden state California, uh Comifornia, should I say,
- 44:51Speaker 1: the federal government is putting a freeze on one point
- 44:54Speaker 1: three billion dollars in Medicaid reimbursements, marking the single large
- 45:00Speaker 1: deferral of its kind overgrowing suspicions of widespread fraud. It's
- 45:05Speaker 1: a massive federal intervention and it comes on the heels
- 45:07Speaker 1: of California charging twenty one people in a separate, shocking, breathtaking,
- 45:12Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty seven million dollar hospice care fraud
- 45:16Speaker 1: scheme authority say that operation you stolen identities from the
- 45:20Speaker 1: dark web to bill for phantom end of life care
- 45:23Speaker 1: that was never actually provided in the first place, and
- 45:26Speaker 1: joining us now to weigh in on it. Is a
- 45:28Speaker 1: House Delegate from the state of Minnesota, Walter Hudson. Thank
- 45:33Speaker 1: you for being here. I know you're very busy, so
- 45:34Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. I want to start with your
- 45:37Speaker 1: reaction to how aggressively the Trump White House is taking
- 45:40Speaker 1: this issue of waste, fraud and abuse. Your thoughts.
- 45:46Speaker 7: It's a long time in coming, and we've really appreciated
- 45:49Speaker 7: here in the state of Minnesota. We've felt like we
- 45:52Speaker 7: have been alone, like nobody was hearing us. And finally
- 45:56Speaker 7: we have the full attention of the Trump administration and
- 45:59Speaker 7: we're so grateful for it. We need everything that they're
- 46:02Speaker 7: bringing to bear, and frankly, we could use every resource
- 46:05Speaker 7: that they have and can conjure in order to take
- 46:09Speaker 7: on this massive scheme to defraud the taxpair under the
- 46:13Speaker 7: guise of helping children and the disabled and folks who
- 46:18Speaker 7: are in need. This is a scheme that has been
- 46:21Speaker 7: going on within the Democrat Party for quite some time,
- 46:25Speaker 7: and I think we're only hitting the tip of the iceberg.
- 46:27Speaker 1: Well, to your point, this goes back at least to
- 46:30Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. And when I think about it, Representative, I
- 46:35Speaker 1: don't know what kind of sick, deranged person would lie
- 46:38Speaker 1: about feeding hungry children during COVID. So there's that issue.
- 46:42Speaker 1: It's just it's sickening. However, we know that the state
- 46:47Speaker 1: of Minnesota, your home state, has received billions of dollars
- 46:51Speaker 1: in federal assistance. So my tax money not just the
- 46:54Speaker 1: people in Minnesota being robbed, but I a Californian being
- 46:57Speaker 1: robbed in Minnesota, going all the way back to twenty nineteen,
- 47:01Speaker 1: and federal investigators believe the total amount could be anywhere
- 47:05Speaker 1: from nine to maybe twelve billion dollars or more in
- 47:09Speaker 1: stolen money. So in your estimation, based on what we're
- 47:13Speaker 1: saying now, where is all that money going? Is it
- 47:15Speaker 1: more housing programs, is it rehab programs? And where do
- 47:19Speaker 1: we even start in terms of uncovering it.
- 47:24Speaker 7: Well, listen, I think the focus right now is on
- 47:27Speaker 7: the providers who have engaged in the most egregious and
- 47:30Speaker 7: almost cartoonish version of fraud where it's like so egregious
- 47:35Speaker 7: that you wouldn't believe it unless you saw it. Feeding
- 47:38Speaker 7: our Future was a great example, two hundred and fifty
- 47:40Speaker 7: million dollars where people were buying mansions and going on
- 47:43Speaker 7: vacations and driving around in luxury vehicles, just completely shamelessly,
- 47:48Speaker 7: as if they had all under their own name, by
- 47:51Speaker 7: the way, like everything bought under their own names, as
- 47:54Speaker 7: if they never had any concern that this might be
- 47:56Speaker 7: something that would come back on them criminally. I think
- 47:59Speaker 7: the spur beneath the surface of the water is much
- 48:02Speaker 7: broader than that, and it goes to all these NGOs
- 48:06Speaker 7: and these left leaning for profits who have benefited from
- 48:11Speaker 7: the programs, the refugee programs, all these things that are
- 48:16Speaker 7: sold to the American people and the taxpayers in Minnesota
- 48:19Speaker 7: as benevolent and caring and being on the right side
- 48:23Speaker 7: of history. That actually just provided a pretext for people
- 48:26Speaker 7: to make their friends wealthy and fund Democrat political organizations.
- 48:31Speaker 1: So let me ask you this with Tim Walls, I
- 48:36Speaker 1: can't believe he's still in politics. Money is we know
- 48:40Speaker 1: that hundreds well, the reports are that hundreds of people
- 48:44Speaker 1: state employees went to him or his office, right, and
- 48:47Speaker 1: they sounded the alarm belt. They said, Governor, we see
- 48:50Speaker 1: evidence or what appears to be evidence of theft or
- 48:55Speaker 1: fraud or waste of some kind, and we want it
- 48:58Speaker 1: to be addressed. These are a good, heart working folks
- 49:00Speaker 1: in the state who genuinely care about Minnesota's and they
- 49:04Speaker 1: either faced retaliation, a threat of losing their job being fired,
- 49:08Speaker 1: which seems illegal in my mind. So I do wonder
- 49:12Speaker 1: about your position here. Has anyone come to you directly
- 49:18Speaker 1: or anybody in your office or in the state you know, legislature,
- 49:21Speaker 1: and said, we're seeing evidence of fraud to here or here,
- 49:25Speaker 1: and we need somebody with some kind of institutional power
- 49:28Speaker 1: to do something. Because Tim Wallas is not.
- 49:32Speaker 7: I'm a couple degrees of separation from those whistleblower reports.
- 49:36Speaker 7: So I was on the House Fraud Prevention and State
- 49:38Speaker 7: Agency Oversight Committee here in Minnesota, and one of our
- 49:42Speaker 7: Republican members was kind of taking point on engaging with
- 49:45Speaker 7: those whistleblowers state agency employees who experienced things like being
- 49:50Speaker 7: questioned as to where their children go to school and
- 49:52Speaker 7: where their bus stops are. I mean, just absolutely absurd,
- 49:55Speaker 7: mafia style intimidation that they were getting for having their
- 49:58Speaker 7: audacity to raise questions about whether or not these red
- 50:01Speaker 7: flags ought to be paid attention to. And listen, a
- 50:04Speaker 7: culture like that doesn't develop on its own. The buck
- 50:08Speaker 7: stops at the top. And Tim Wallas has been in
- 50:11Speaker 7: charge for a good long time. You know, he's entering
- 50:13Speaker 7: into his final potentially his finally you're here, and this
- 50:18Speaker 7: is something that there's no excuse for it. And it's
- 50:24Speaker 7: been so prolific in terms of not just those individual
- 50:26Speaker 7: anecdotes from the state agency employees, but documented avoidance of
- 50:31Speaker 7: recommendations from the Office of Legislative Auditor here in this
- 50:34Speaker 7: state avoidance and the public comments from Democrats downplaying and
- 50:40Speaker 7: even ridiculing media reports and whistleblowers. Clearly, there's something they
- 50:45Speaker 7: don't want us to see here, and it's not that
- 50:47Speaker 7: difficult to actually discern what it is that they're actually up.
- 50:50Speaker 1: To when they go after you to your point like that,
- 50:53Speaker 1: and you know you're right over the target. So I'll
- 50:56Speaker 1: just end by saying my message, my mindset, but my
- 51:00Speaker 1: message to my fellow Americans, be patient. We've seen indictments,
- 51:05Speaker 1: we've seen convictions at this point. Early we showed the
- 51:07Speaker 1: imagery of Amy Bach, who was leading feeding our future
- 51:11Speaker 1: who defrauded the government the taxpayer of a quarter billion dollars, right,
- 51:16Speaker 1: So the White House is taking this seriously. I suspect
- 51:19Speaker 1: more arrests in indictments will be following soon and in
- 51:22Speaker 1: the meantime, I just appreciate you talking about it with
- 51:24Speaker 1: us on the show today. Please keep up the good work,
- 51:26Speaker 1: please keep fighting, and thank you for your time. Thanks
- 51:30Speaker 1: for paying attention, and folks, we are all out of
- 51:33Speaker 1: time for tonight. That's going to do it for another
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- 51:52Speaker 1: bless you all. Good night.
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