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RSPW Rewind Episode 38 - Wrestling Fans REACT To John Cena In 2002, Dave Meltzer And More! · Solomonster Sounds Off

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: It has been three years since I have done one
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: of these. I think enough time has gone by. It
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: is the return of a segment that I started over
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: six years ago called URSPW Rewind And if you can
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: believe it, this is episode thirty eight and I am
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: the solo monster. This is where we look back at
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: what the smart marks we're discussing long before the cesspool
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: of today that is social media. I started this basically
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: as it was a segment originally as part of the
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: actual SoundOff podcast. And I started this many years ago
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  Speaker 1: on the SoundOff in twenty nineteen as a way of
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: showing people that wrestling fans complaining online was a thing
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: way before we were all accustomed to it here on
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: social media, on Facebook and Twitter and every other place
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: that basically people bitch and about wrestling. But they were
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: bitching and moaning about things even back when Brett Hart
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: won his first WWE title and the nWo was born. Now,
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: back then, just to give a little history lesson here,
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: it was a newsgroup called RSPW, which the Urban Dictionary
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: defines in a couple of different ways. Two ways. In particular,
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  Speaker 1: it defines it as an acronym for rc dot sport
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  Speaker 1: dot pro dash Wrestling a us Net group filled with insane,
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: hostile trolls, which is a very accurate description. It's also
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: defined as a us Net discussion board where wrestling and
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: a number of other topics are discussed in depth, where
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: who is still Jim Knighthart and where Triple H is
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: regarded the same as Adolph Hitler. It's a little extreme.
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  Speaker 1: So many of those old posts, unfortunately many of them
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: have been lost to time and space. However, if you
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: know where to look, there actually are quite a few
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  Speaker 1: posts that are still available to search for. For example,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you right now and before we
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  Speaker 1: get into all of the actual posts, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be diving into here in a moment. But I was
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  Speaker 1: able to find what is believed to be and regarded
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  Speaker 1: as the oldest archive post on all of RSPW if
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: you can believe it, from January third, nineteen ninety. Okay,
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: this is how far back that we are going here
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: by Brent Higginbotham. He says, well, I see one person here.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Is this a new group? I'm new to this whole
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: v news thing, or at least being able to write
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  Speaker 1: as well as Reid. Anyways, I'm a longtime wrestling fan
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  Speaker 1: and get a special kick out of the NWA gang.
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  Speaker 1: So who else is out there? Started out so innocently,
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: didn't it. He just wanted to talk some wrastlin. So
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  Speaker 1: let's dive right in here. What I've done is I
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  Speaker 1: have pulled a bunch of random posts, including some on
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  Speaker 1: John Cena, and we'll get to those towards the end.
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  Speaker 1: Because John Cena, as I am recording this here early
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, just retired at the end of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so I was thinking, well, it would
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: probably make sense to pull some John Cena posts. Originally
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: I was going to plan to get this up right
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  Speaker 1: after he retired. It took a little bit longer to
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: put this together. Another reason, by the way, that this
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  Speaker 1: has been resurrected and we are doing this is because
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: on one of the live streams here on the channel
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  Speaker 1: many many weeks ago, you guys hit a goal during
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: the live stream, and I promised you that I would
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: be bringing back rspw rewinds. So that is why we
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: are doing it. So I want to thank everybody out
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: there who enjoyed all the old segments and wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see it brought back at least this one time. Maybe
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: we'll do more. But what I'm going to do right
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  Speaker 1: now is, as I said, pull some random posts, some
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  Speaker 1: on John Cena, and there are other posts that invoked
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  Speaker 1: the name of one Dave Meltzer. There's actually a bunch
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: of Meltzer related posts here. And as you will see
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: as we go along here, Uncle Dave was a very
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  Speaker 1: polarizing figure even back then. So let us begin, and
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: we're going to start out here with a post from
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  Speaker 1: April seventeenth, two thousand and one, titled Dave Meltzer's show
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  Speaker 1: is boring shit. Not boring as shit as you could
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  Speaker 1: see here on your screen. Boring shit is the title
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  Speaker 1: of this post. Now. Dave used to host. For those
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: of you who don't know, Dave used to host a
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  Speaker 1: show on Iata, which was an internet talk radio network
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: that shut down later that year basically after the dot
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  Speaker 1: com bubble burst. It was sort of a forerunner to
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: what podcasts are today. What this person says, no wonder
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: this guy is on internet only quote unquote radio and
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  Speaker 1: not real radio. If he broadcast on real radio, he
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: would be inundated with lawsuits from drivers that were in
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: accidents caused by spontaneous narcolepsy brought about by the my
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: numbing horribleness of his show. Hell, Dave and Phil from
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: DC should already be outlaws. There are computers in places
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: with heavy machinery and in places that perform critical tasks,
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: and they might cause a serious accident. One day, Newby replied,
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  Speaker 1: this show has gotten really bad since the official demise
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  Speaker 1: of WCW. He spends a good thirty minutes talking about
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  Speaker 1: types of wrestling that I would imagine is not being
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  Speaker 1: watched by most American fans. You could tell that Dave
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: had a lot of fans on RSPW and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I see a lot of those same critiques about Dave
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  Speaker 1: even today. You know that he spends too much time
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: talking about Japanese wrestling, he spends too much time talking
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  Speaker 1: about CML and the Mexican scene. And it's almost as
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  Speaker 1: if there's wrestling outside of the United States that some
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: people give a shit about. It's almost as if it's
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: his job to cover all of these different promotions. I
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: know it's mind blowing to think of, but yes, there
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  Speaker 1: is life outside the US when it comes to wrestling.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: I know it's hard to believe but then we have
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: Benny on May fourth, two thousand and two, with a
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  Speaker 1: post titled Dave Meltzer ripped me off and this one
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  Speaker 1: caught my eye. I said, I have to toss this
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  Speaker 1: one here in the old pile, says, as some of
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: you may know, the I guess gaya or gaya, we'll say,
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: We'll say Gaya. GYA Girls documentary was screened in the
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: UK several weeks ago. Dave requested a copy in NTSC
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  Speaker 1: four Matt on his site, and I emailed him offering
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: to send a copy of the tape. He asked what
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: I wanted in exchange, and I asked for last year's
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: Observer Year End Awards issue, which I'm sure most of
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  Speaker 1: you will agree is a more than reasonable request. I
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: sent the tape to Dave, and after a weeks have
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  Speaker 1: received nothing from him. I emailed him again nothing. Just
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: because he runs a newsletter doesn't give him the right
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  Speaker 1: to rip people off. We had a deal. I kept
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: my end of the bargain. Captain Dan responds, I met
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  Speaker 1: Dave Meltzer backstage at a WWF show two years ago.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: Perry Saturn was wrestling Crash Holly in a match tape
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  Speaker 1: for jacked. I said to him, I bet you a
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: million dollars Crash wins this match. He said, yeah, right, okay,
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: and Crash one. So I turned to him and said, okay,
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: where's my million bucks? And he just ran away. WTF
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: see with this fall into the category of Meltzer fanfic?
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: Is that how you would define it? I could believe
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: the first story, but I don't believe that last story.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: Moving on though, we have super stud On July ninth,
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one. Ah, yes, July ninth, two thousand
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: and one, the night that Stephanie McMahon walked out on
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Raw as the new owner of ECW, and a very
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: promising Angle took a very horrible turn. I remember that
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: night very well. Actually shot an incredible angle in that
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: first hour, and then it sort of fell off a
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: cliff there at the end. But anyway, this is a
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: post titled Meltzer passes the torch to Brian Alvarez says
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: that was an awesome ending to a kick ass wrestling
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: show for the last few years. Dave Meltzer saying that
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: Brian Alvarez will become the best wrestling journalist was really classy.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: So again, what he's referring to here is Dave's final
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: IATA show. Evidently he put over Brian is the future
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: of wrestling reporting. But not everybody was thrilled about this,
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: As Newby responded, I hate Alvarez. He's a condescending little turd. Okay,
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: Newby was not the only one who is not a fan,
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: unfortunately of Brian Alvarez, because we go to Firesaber and
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: I mean the title of this post here speaks for itself.
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  Speaker 1: This was one month earlier. He dropped this gem of
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: a post on June thirteenth, two thousand and one, titled
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: Brian Alvarez is a Bitch? Has anyone else noticed from
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: the bulletin board on the Wrestling Observer how much of
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: an asshole this mini me of Dave Meltzer's really is.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: I guess he hasn't figured out what keeps the pathetic website,
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: radio show, and newsletter running. On second thought, keep being
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: a bitch, Brian. We'll see you and Dave soon enough.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: On a freeway intersection with a sign saying will job
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: for food, Stone COO eight sixty four says, I love
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  Speaker 1: posts that make no sense. My name is stone Cold.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Joe Morrison says Meltzer is almost on the twentieth year
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: of his newsletter, You idiot, but Tim Dudley, he jumped
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: to Brian's defense, What are you talking about? Brian Alvarez
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: is the best part of the Wrestling Observer show. Wouldn't
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: you be tired of stupid fans calling up every day
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: asking the same stupid questions over and over? When is
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Shawn Michael's coming back? Is HBK the Stalker? When is
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: the Rock coming back? When is Goldberg coming to the WWF?
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: What do you mean he was sent home in no
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: condition to perform? Don't these stupid fans think that if
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: any of these situations happened that Dave and Brian would
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: mention it. Yeah, Goldberg signed with the WWF, but they're
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: talking about the Triple A Minis instead. I wish they
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: had better call screening on the show because Brian and
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: his listeners are going to have an aneurism. If one
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: more person asks is HBK the Stalker? Keep giving him hell? Brian, Well,
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: at least Alvarez we know has at least one fan
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  Speaker 1: from back. Then someone's got to stick up for Brian.
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  Speaker 1: We move now to June eighteenth, two thousand and one,
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  Speaker 1: and we got an anonymous poster here titled how does
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: how does Dave Meltzer take it? I'm going to read
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: this to you that he's putting together here a mock conversation,
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: so just follow along with me, says Dave. I think
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Stone Cold would be better off as a face because
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: but then Brian says, it's not that he's better blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. Dave says, but and Brian interjects, I remember
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: when blah blah blah. Dave says, but it's and then
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: Brian cuts him off. I also remember when Austin on
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  Speaker 1: raw blah blah blah. Dave says that's true, but gets
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: cut off again. Brian says, it still comes down to it,
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: and you see the you see what he's getting at here.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: When is Dave finally going to say, shut the fuck
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  Speaker 1: up and stop talking over me? The interviews were much
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: better without Alvarez. Now, I love that post because I
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: find it hilarious because whenever I hear the two of
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: them together now on their show, it's always Dave talking
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: over Brian. It's like the complete opposite. I don't know
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: if maybe it was like that back then, but it's
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: like a one pint eighty now from like whenever I
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: hear a clip from the show of the two of
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: them having a conversation or having a debate about something
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: out Observer Radio, and I'm just I'm sitting here wondering
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: how Brian doesn't just explode on Dave one day and
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: just start like going nuts. So apparently the script has
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: been flipped since two thousand and one. But then Newby
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: says they both spend the entire show trying to out
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: talk each other and their guests. It's awful. The Live
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: Audio Wrestling show guys do a better job of hosting
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: a radio show. For those of you who are not
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: familiar with the law, Live Audio Wrestling That was a
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Canadian sports radio show that was discontinued a number of
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: years ago. I don't remember exactly what year it went away,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: but it is very popular and Meltzer used to be
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: a frequent guest. He would call in very often. But
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: we're not done yet here with this post. Here, because
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: this is just we have retro Junkie who jumped in
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: here with the final word on how does Meltzer take
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: how does Meltzer take it? Right up the ass? Oh
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: my god, I love the Internet so much. It's like
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: one little sentence here out of this entire post. And
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: if I tell you, when I first read it, I
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: don't know what it was, but just the tears that
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: were streaming down my face. It mustn't just hit me
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: at exactly the right moment, because I just I was like, Oh,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: that's just perfect. That is just perfect. God blessed the Internet.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Now here's one from Joey the Fuss FSAVIA from March fifth,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one, titled Hunter versus a Celebrity at WrestleMania. Now,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: this is something this is not like a joke post,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: but this is something that even I never heard of before.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: This was news to me and I had to look
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: into this after the fact. But this is what the
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  Speaker 1: post says. On the law. I was home from school
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: snow day Board and listened. Dave Meltzer reported that at WrestleMania,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: it looks like Triple H will be taking on a celebrity.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: They talked about Lawrence tap Ray Lewis, so this would
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: have been the year after he had the double murder
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: charges against him dropped and Mike Tyson all as possibilities,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: but Meltzer doubted lt because it really wouldn't do much
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: for him, and talking about Tyson, Meltzer thought that if
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: given some time to work and stuff, it would be
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  Speaker 1: a good It would be good for Hunter and Helmsley
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  Speaker 1: will be able to carry him to an acceptable match,
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  Speaker 1: which honestly I don't doubt. I mean, you see what
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Bam Bam Bigelow is able to do with Lawrence Taylor.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I think that even Triple H at that stage of
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: his career would have been more than capable of bumping
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: around from Mike Tyson in selling for him car. That
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: would have been a completely ridiculous mismatch between the two
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: of that. It should have been over in fucking fifteen seconds.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: But anyway, he said. They also sort of hinted that
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: it could be a mixed tag match with Stephanie and
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: some female celebrity, so would you look at that. It
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: only took another seventeen years, but we did eventually get
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: that mixed tag match WrestleMania with Triple H and Stephanie
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: and Ronda Rousey was the celebrity. Now Stone Co eight
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: sixty four wondered, the thing is will he job Scotty
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the body Flamingo chimes in Hell. I'd rather see them
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: bring back the Warriors so Triple H could get some retribution.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Newby says, I think that's a horrible idea. Triple H
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: must have pissed someone off in the back for them
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  Speaker 1: to consider this. He's too good to be wrestling a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: bunch of washed up athletes. I'd rather see him referee
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the Austin versus Stone called Steve Austin match. I guess
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: he means or act as a commentator than do something
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: so ridiculous. Hap Jack says they should just let Ben
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Wah do his full face turn and have Ben Wah
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: versus Triple H as the second main event. They could
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: have a super match and steal the show from Rock
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  Speaker 1: and Austin. Well, that was just never gonna happen. Triple
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: H and Benwall, We're not going you steal the show
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  Speaker 1: from Stone Cold in the Rock at WrestleMania. What it
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: was this two thousand and one, two thousand and one. Yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they were not stealing the show from Rock in Austin.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: That's the greatest overall WrestleMania of all time. Paul says,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I heard that they wanted to book Triple H versus God,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: but Triple H refused to job to him believable Darkseide
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: two seventy eight times in a celebrity please know. I'm
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: confident that Triple H will end up facing Kurt Angle
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  Speaker 1: in the semi main event. This would be the most
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: logical match since there are still unresolved issues between the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: two and WrestleMania has traditionally been the place to end
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: old feuds. I'm thinking that Benoa, who is still a heel,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: will end up challenging Chris Jericho and Eddie Guerrero, who
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: appears to be going face with his radical brethren in
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: a three way for the IC title. Rock versus Austin
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: is the main event, and it really wouldn't make any
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: logical sense at this point for Helmsley to face anybody
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: other than Angle. Well about that and who an Angle phase?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: If you can't wrestle Rock or Austin Scottie two Hottie why,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Triple H would be a perfect choice. Bank on it,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: oh Man who wants to let him know? Who wants
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to let Darkseide know? And Mikey Jericho. Hollick says, we've
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: seen Triple H and Angle already for God's sake, can't
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the WWF find anything more. So I looked into this
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: because again I had not heard of the whole celebrity
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: angle for Triple H. I mean, it's pretty clear they
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: didn't really have a good plan for Triple H. The
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: whole thing with him and Undertaker was basically put together
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: kind of last minute because they didn't have anything else
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  Speaker 1: for him to do. I mean, that match was just
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: kind of thrown together on the undercard. I don't remember
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: there being some great, real build up in the months
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: leading up to it. So I looked into this. This
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: was a real thing. I'm going to read you a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: quote from Triple H himself. This is what he said
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to WWE dot com feature they did on WrestleMania matches
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: that never happened. A lot of ideas get bandied about.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: But we were going to do Me versus Tyson in
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a boxer versus wrestler match, or WrestleMania x seven with
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Mills Lane and Earl Hebner both in the ring. We
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: were going to do six rounds before the finish. I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: don't remember if it was going to be full boxing
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: rules or whether I was wearing gloves, but it ended
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: up being a deal where the whole thing just would
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: have been a ludicrous amount of money and it got
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: pushed off. I wrestled Taker instead, and that ended up
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: becoming one of my favorite matches, And honestly, of all
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the WrestleMania matches that they had, that one is still
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like where I would rank it
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: relative to the other two. I think at least number two.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I would put their WrestleMania X seven match at least
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: second out of the three. And I was gonna say
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: maybe number one. I mean, look the end of an era.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I mean I was there for that match. I was
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: there for that near fall, one of the great near
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: falls ever done in WWE, and yeah, there was there
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: was some emotion there with them. I don't love that
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: match the way that some other people love that match,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: but I would put that in number one. But I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: would have their X seven match in number two. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed their wrestlemaning a twenty seven match, but I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: just I really liked that match they had back in
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: OH one, So I could see where, you know, he
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: would think that was one of his favorite matches. I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: could believe that. Now for those of you who don't
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: know when this is probably most of you. For those
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: of you who don't know the name HERB. Cunzie, if
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you were on RSPW back in the day, then you
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: were probably very familiar with him and his weekly Wrestling
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Tidbits posts. So every week you would have Wrestling Tidbits, which,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: as you would imagine, was wrestling news and wrestling tidbits
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: from all different promotions, and it was like his own
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: little newsletter that he would post on RSPW, and he
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: was a frequent critic. I don't believe that he had
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: any actual sources or direct connections in wrestling. He was
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: probably reading The Observer and the Torch like everybody else
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: on there was. So I think he stopped watching wrestling
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: around the Attitude era and he became a math teacher.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I think he might have been a math teacher the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: entire time, and that's just what he is. So anyway,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: but this particular Wrestling Tidbits drop is from September fifth,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, so we're taking it back ten years
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: from what we were just talking about here. Said a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. The WWF's second arcade game, wrestle Fest,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: debuted in the arcade close to the University. It features
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: many of the top names in the WWF, including hul Cogan,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Kurt Hennig, Ted Dbiassi, Ultimate Warrior, Lod Demolition, Big boss Man, Earthquake,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Sergeant Slaughter, etc. So the graphics on this game are
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: far super to the original WWF Superstars Arcade game and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: WrestleFest I believe was the sequel to Superstars for those
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: who don't know, but anyway, so, the player can either
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: participate in a Royal Rumble or take part in a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Saturday Night's main event tag match. I gave both options
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a whirl. The rumble starts off with your selected wrestler,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Kurt Hennigan my case, and about five other wrestlers in
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the ring. I meandered right over to Hulk Hogan and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: gave him several standing dropkicks. I followed this up with
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: a snapmare and a knee drop. Meanwhile, Jake Roberts was
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: selected as the next Rumble participant, and a little graphics
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: window popped up with Jake mumbling and then a shot
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: of the aisle as he strolled to the ring. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: by now I was getting pummeled by the Ultimate Warrior,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: who used more moves on me in a minute than
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: he ever has in his WWF career. My strength bar
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was getting smaller and smaller, and I was moving a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: lot slower. Somehow, though, I got the upper hand on
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Hogan again while trying to avoid everybody in the ring
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a lah Rick Martel this year's Rumble, and by madly
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: wiggling the joystick and pressing buttons, put the perfect plex
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: on him, getting the three count. Unfortunately, Hawks stormed the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: ring and zeroed in on me, giving me some standing
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: drop kicks and putting me in a bear hug and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: then pinning me. This was kind of neat, although very
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: hard to follow as the ring gets fuller. I went
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: on to the tag team challenge picked the formidable team
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of Kurt Headig. Well he's a big Kurt heading fan.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I can't say I blame him. I picked the Formidable
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: team of Kurt Headig and Ted Di Biassi. The first
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: challenge was hul Cogan and the Ultimate Warrior, and I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: wondered who was the booker and how I had gotten
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: drawn for this matchup. I pummeled the stuffing out of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the Warrior and somehow managed to slap the million dollar
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Dream on him. Before Hogan had even entered the ring
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and I got the submission. The kids watching me were
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: pretty awestruck by how quickly I did this, and I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: really had no idea what I had done. Welcome to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: o arcade games back then. That's how I used to
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: be a button masher and just hope for the best.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: That's how I played wrestle Fest. That's how I played
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat, Turtles and Time or whatever the fuck I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: was playing, whatever Turtles game it was I was playing
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: at the arcade. Yeah, I mean, you just hit those
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: buttons and hope for the best. He said. I made
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it through a fourth match and got to the title match,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: which had me as the challenger to the Legion of Doom,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and they beat the living daylights out of me. It
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: was over before it even began. All in all, not
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a bad little arcade game. Four players can play at
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: once in either game mode. I just liked the experience
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: of beating Hogan. I just hope Rick Flair stays around
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the WWF long enough and gets a big enough push
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to warrant him being included in a future arcade game.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Nothing would be more worth a quarter than being the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: nature Boy and pummeling Hogan, and I do believe Flair
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't a game, right he was in wasn't that Royal
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Rumble game released around then, like ninety two. I'm almost
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: positive Flair was in that game. He might have even
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: been in the first Raw game that came out, but
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: almost for sure. I think he was in the Rumble game. Look,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: wrestle Fest is my all time favorite wrestling game. I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: have a lot of nostalgia when it comes to wrestle Fest.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: It's the first game that I'd played at the arcade.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I never played Superstars. I guess it was already gone
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and wressell Fest was the new thing, and so you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: outside of playing the first like WrestleMania game and stuff
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: on Nintendo at home, like at the arcade, it was
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: all about wrestle Fest and I just fucking loved it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: And at the time, oh my god, look at the
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: graphics and me and Jean's interviewing this guy was like
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: such a big deal. So I have a lot of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: fun memories about playing that game. It was, as I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, it was a sequel to WWF Superstars, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: both games, by the way, both of those arcade games
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: were created by a company called Technos Japan, which also
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: created the Double Dragons series. Now wrestle Fest. You see
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: on your here, that's an arcade cabinet. It's got there's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the WWE retro logo here. That is new because Russell
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Fest was just re released last year as a home
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: arcade cabinet. But apparently Sergeants Slaughter and the Legion of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Doom were left out of the game, and a lot
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of people were very upset about that. I believe it
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: has to do with licensing issues. I think Slaughter and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Lod or their families. I don't think there was a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Legends deal for them, and so that's why they weren't included.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: If that's the case, I mean, there's nothing they could do.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, you either legally have the rights to include
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: them in the game or you don't. But that sucks,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you know that they actually took characters out of the game.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: But still, I mean, to be able to own that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and have that at home if you can afford it
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and if you have space for it. And I don't
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: know exactly how much this is going for. I want
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to say it's in the range of five or six
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks. But again, don't quote me on that this
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: is not from Arcade one up, because I know they've
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: released home arcades. I've got a Mortal Kombat one. This
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: is a different company. But just the fact that you
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: could actually own a version of this at home is
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. Again, sucks that you don't get all the characters,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: but still, I mean, if you would have told me
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: this when I was younger, I could actually own this
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and have this at home, like I would be over
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the moon. So if you want to own wrestle Fest,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: just FYI, it is available now now. I mentioned John
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Cena earlier and I was going to dig up some
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: old John Cena posts. John Cena just retired last month,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: so I went searching and I found this one here.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: This was from the actually the day of his debut
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: on SmackDown June twenty seventh, two thousand and two. From
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Ted B five twelve is a post titled great John
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Cena gimmick idea and then he's got some money signs here.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Apparently he thinks this is a really great idea, says man,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: this kid has potential, good match, but he needs a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: gimmick fast because WWE fans will confuse him with Randy
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Orton and Batista. I think he should have the fake
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: heat gimmick. That means for everything, he says, they turn
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: up the fake crowd noise really high, like people are
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: cheering the hell out of everything. He says, for example,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: he could come to the ring and read the phone book.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Adderson Jay huge cheer while crowd is visibly motionless. Adderson
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: James enormous pop. And then you know, I've been in
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Current City for a couple of days now, and I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: have to say, you people suck huge pop. So then
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Curious with Taylor responds on the whole fake heat gimmick.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Randy Orton's gimmick, says Hi, but you probably can't hear
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: it over the fake crowd noise. So then, about a
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: month later, on July twenty first, two thousand and two,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: we have a post from OTD five and this one
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: is I mean, I'm just gonna let it speak for
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: itself here. Uh fuck John Cena, that's the title of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the post. Very very quick here says he sucks. Why
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: are they pushing him? Newby says he's tall with a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: nice physique. Poot Root beers this person's name. Poot root
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Beer says because sena equals Spanish for supper, so steph
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: has taken a liking to him. I gotta stop here.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Is that true? Is that does sena mean dinner in Spanish?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: How did I not know this? I just I didn't
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: realize that I didn't. I didn't realize that. I know
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: cosina is kitchen, right, sena equals supper, So that that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: just blew my mind. I mean, is he implying that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Stephanie is fat? Is that what he's getting at here
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: with his posts? Because I think around this time Stephanie
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: was I mean, this was like peaque Stephanie here on TV.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm like reading this guy, What the hell is
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: this guy watching? If that's what he's inferring here, I
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: don't know. But then hipman LV says, I don't know
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: why he was so highly heralded. He is a bore
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: with no personality. Maybe he will develop one, Yeah, maybe
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: he will. I hope that John Cena guy can develop
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a personality. I think his personality was the least of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: his problems back then. Triple W says, I guess the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: fact that he was the OVW champion for a while
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: means nothing in your book, Someone pays their dues in
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the minor feds, and people then complain when they get
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a decent push in the big time. Sheesh, yeah, sheesh,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I agree, and then ain it's his name. Ei n
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: says sadly, a win over Jericho these days is not
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a big push. I think Vince has all the wrestlers
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: in the back taking numbers. A win over Jericho is
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: not a big push. This was two thousand and two,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: mind you. I actually would agree with that statement more
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: recently in aw that will win over Jericho really doesn't
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: mean much these days. But to hear that back in
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: two thousand and two, I don't I don't know. That's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that's kind of wild to me. But let's gep ahead
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: here to April sixteenth, two thousand and four, and this
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: is a post from funky M titled John Cena sucks
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: as a face. Actually it's it's like a poem, so
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: let's let's read let's read this here. Funky M told
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you John Cena would suck as a face. He's so
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: lame now it's a disgrace. Back as a heel, he
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Now he kisses our ass like a fool.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Wwe you should just pull out the plug because we
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: ain't marking for this. Wanna be thug? Turn Sena heel?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Do it now? Today as a face he becomes rico
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: type gay. It's quite the poet, this funky m. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: love how even in two thousand and four, before he
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: even won his first world title, you already had people
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: crapping on scene as a babyface hey, just begging WW
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to turn him heel. This was two thousand and four.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Sean Walsh responds, that was better than any sena rap
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: quote unquote I've heard in months. Adam Cohen with a
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: K responds with some lyrics of his own. No disrespect
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to the m who's funky, but the A to the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Kizzo has to disagree. Sina still rules his homegirls and homeboys.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Everywhere he goes, the crowd makes some noise. If we
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: didn't like him, his push would go south. Instead, He'll
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: keep shoving these nuts in your mouth. Oh man, you
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: hear what I'm saying. You know that it's true. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: if you can't take that, well take this fu word life. Wow.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And then there's Alan J. Benson, who I think hit
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the nail right on the head here. He said, seriously though,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: even though people cheer for him. He's like every badass
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: heel character who has turned face. He's watered down ever
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: so slightly, but just enough that he loses that special
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: cool edge that made so many people mark out for
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: him in the first place. The smart fans pick up
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: on this first, of course, but over time more and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: more Marx realize it too. It happened to Stone Cold
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: about three years ago, it happened to the Rock about
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: two years ago, and it will happen to Sina too.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Silver Dragon says, I don't think it's seen as face turned.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I think Vincent K. McMahon and company told him to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: water down the wrap so the FCC or whoever it
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: is would not come down on them. Ever, since a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: few preteens dropped a load overseeing jan It's ring covered
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: booby for three quarters of a second, the FCC has
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: been coming down on anybody who does anything even remotely
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: close to offensive. Seena's face wraps were good at first,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and then got g rated awfully quickly after the FCC
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: started handing out three quarters of a million dollar fines
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to anybody noddedhering to standards that have been outdated since
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies. VKM probably doesn't want to be the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: recipient of one of those fines because of how the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: audience decided to fill in the last word on one
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of his raps. The decision may have even come from
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Viacom for all we know. I really don't think it's him,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: though he's good with the mic. He's referring to the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl halftime incident with Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson, which, God,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: how many years ago is that? Over twenty? I know
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that Chris Wagoner. I'll say this, Sina does the freestyle
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: rap thing. Well, I guess I hate raps, so I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: can't really tell. However, he has no business in a
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: wrestling and I'll tell you why. Number One, he needs
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to be carried. John Cena has a smaller move set
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: than Hogan or The Rock. Interestingly, many parallels can be
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: drawn between the three. Both Hogan and Rock were basically
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: total zeros in a wrestling capacity, but had a shitload
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: of charisma. Sena falls into this category. But at least
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Hogan and Rock could work with almost anyone and put
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: on a mildly entertaining fight. Sena needs a really good
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: worker to put him over Number two, he has no
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: fundamentals for someone who came from OVW. Sena has an
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: appalling lack of mattwork basics. Somebody get Dean Malenko to
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: teach this ape a few more holds. Without good mattwork,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: his matches will quickly become predictable. Number three, his gimmick
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: is destined to bite him in the ass one day.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Right now, Rap and Hip Hopp are at the top
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of the charts. However, one can only wonder how much
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: longer it will last. Raven's gimmick failed him when the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: grunge movement breathed its last breath, and Sena will be
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: no exception. He's just not a talented enough wrestler to
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: recover from this. He'll probably join Too Cool with Scotty
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Rakishi and the returning Grandmasters Sexa. Sena should have been
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: kept off TV until he boned up on his ring work.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Mike skills are important, but you need to work as
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: well as talk well. I mean, look, it was a
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: well thought out response, and that was the big knock
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: on John Cena back then was his matches were not
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: great and he had to be carried by people who
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: were better than him and more experience than him. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: as the years went on, he started having really good matches,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and he started having even some great matches. And I
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: had to start defending him on the podcast from people
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: who were sending in questions and comments just like that,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, look, Sena is not the best
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: wrestler on the roster, but you can't say he doesn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: know how to work. Who were you to say that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: He's going out there and having kick ass matches with
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: CM Punkin, He's having great matches with this guy and
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that guy in Edge, And I mean, there's a whole
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: laundry list of great matches that he had in the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: late two thousands, early twenty tens, not to say anything
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of course of the matches that came later against people
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: like AJ Styles. So this was the big knock on
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Sena at that time. You know, looking at it through
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: that lens in two thousand and two or actually I
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: guess this is two thousand and four, you can understand it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: You know, his work was very basic, it was very predictable.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: But then we have this post titled John Cena. That's it,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: just his name, John Cena on May twenty eighth, two
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: thousand and four by a poster named I Fucked Lindsey Lohan.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: That's his name, that's his name. WWE continues to make
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: all the wrong moves with John Cena's character. He's supposed
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to be the bad boy rapper yet again, or yet
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: he's given nice guy credit for the military members receiving
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: free access to the Great American Bash pay per view.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the rebel, yet there he was
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: at the end of the show, riding on the shoulders
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: of the other babyface wrestlers. The formula that would get
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Sena over as a main evenor isn't that difficult to
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: figure out since it's very similar to the one Steve
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Austin used. Give the guy a quality authority figure to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: rebel agains, portray him as a loner, and stop casting
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: him as the biggest babyface kiss ass since Dallas Page
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Man DDP. Catching strays from I Fucked Lindsay Lohan Danger
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: thirty two to ten Lives says WWE does this with
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: every good heel turned face. The thing is, though, Sena
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is very popular, and no matter how they push him
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: as a face, as long as he stays popular, they
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: will continue to push him like this. I just hope
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Sena returns heel whenever he gets his world title push
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a La Rock in nineteen ninety eight. Try j Comm says, No,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Sena is fine as he is. He cuts good promos
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: and does a fine job with his gimmick. All he
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: needs is a bigger push to get him out of
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that second tier US title group and into the first tier.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: The big mistake with him is they made him a
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: face when they were desperate for heels, which is a
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: fair point. Pete Panaro couldn't believe what he was seeing
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: on July first, two thousand and four, in a post
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: titled Wow, look at Scena being ruined before our very eyes,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: says playing to the fans a little too much. Can't
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: wait till he starts giving his visor to a kid
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: at the front row before every match. Hey, it work
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: for Brett Hart. Then we had John Bradshaw Layfield. I
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: could just picture jbl Man sitting there, putting his reading
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: glasses on his cheaters and typing out a message to RSPW.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess this wasn't him, but Jad Jad. John
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Bradshaw Layfield posted maybe his name is Jad Sina ceased
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: being entertaining when he turned face. His raps been really
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: awful and he looks really bad in the ring. He
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: needs a lot more seasoning. Turn heel and stay heel
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: for the rest of his career. He was once one
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of the most entertaining characters on SmackDown. So sad actually,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that could have been jbl writing in just to bash
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: John Cena taking the feud to the internet, and Araksen says,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: look what happens when ben Wa and Angle aren't around
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to wrestle Sena to make him look like a million
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: bucks seen as true colors shine through, he sucks. It's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: very clear to me that RSPW was not having any
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: of this babyface Scena stuff in two thousand and four.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: If only they knew what was coming next, then we
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: had Harold with Kumar these fucking names posted on January thirteenth,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: two thousand and five about Sena. His pandering to the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: fans is sickening. And what's worse is that the crowds
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: absolutely love this guy, even though he totally sucks. Now.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: The chain gang not cool, pumping up his sneakers not cool.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: The you can't see me thing worked better when he
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: just said it and didn't actually do the stupid hand
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: motion thing. Not cool, the five knuckle shuffle lame, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the fu is probably the worst finisher in wrestling. I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: can't find anything positive about John Cena anymore. Not cool
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: at all. Man, he should just jump off a bridge
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, he's apparely. He has no
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: redeeming qualities whatsoever. I love how he In two thousand
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and five, he was saying that John Cena has to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: ditch the whole hand gesture here. I don't think that's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: gonna work. I don't think that's gonna work. And finally
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Google Beta user had enough and lashed out at his
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: fellow RSPW dwellers the day of WrestleMania twenty one. This
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: was April third, two thousand and five, in a post
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: titled shut up about John Cena. You are the same
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: guys bitching about JBL. How can you reconcile being pissed
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Sina wins and that JBL is the champion chill Sina
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: will get in a feud, they'll shuffle the rosters around,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and he'll get into a kick ass feud with Kurt Angle.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: It's like you guys, wish the belt had been put
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: on the Undertaker. Don't forget Eddie would have gotten a
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: longer rain if he himself wouldn't have admitted the pressure
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: was getting to him. You have to work with what
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: you have. Nemesis says, it's that some people won't like
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: it no matter the outcome you got. Some people who
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: won't like anything about the program will always bash it
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: no matter what, and it shows their lack of a
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: life and that they will waste several hours of their
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: lives watching something they already made up their mind about
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: that they won't like no matter what. Sound familiar. This
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: could have been ripped right off x or any YouTube
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: comments section today. John Fenner says, well, let me just
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: state this. I am glad that Sena is champion, much
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: better than JBL. And Jeff h says the champion should
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: know how to wrestle a main event match and make
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: his opponents look good. JBL is better than Seena tonight,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: or I guess was better than Seena tonight. Again. This
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: was the night of WrestleMania twenty one. Sena was lost
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: in some part of the match and the win meant nothing.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: The crowd could hardly give a shit. It seemed that
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't a great match like their match they had a
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: couple months later. I guess it was Judgment Day. Was
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it the I Quit match? That was a much better match?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I never liked their WrestleMania match. Now, five months into
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: his title reign, these folks don't seem to be getting
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: any happier. As Rayden posts on September twelfth, two thousand
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and five, John Cena is a fucking boring WWE champion
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and his face turn or face run as champion is
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: just one of the ingredients that makes raw shit. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: blame the writers for making him a pussy. He does
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: have charisma, but I doubt that he can use it
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: due to the script. Oh, the script will not allow
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: him to show off his natural charisma super crazy. On
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: December twelfth, two thousand and five, John Cena finally acknowledges
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the booze says, you have to respect that. Mister Matola says,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: what's to respect? The guy admits being booed because he sucks,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: but then he cuts a babyface googo gaga. I love America,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Please don't boom me. I'm trying really hard here and
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I really love America, so don't boom me. Promo Fuck Scena,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the phony poser super Crazy responds, he actually was saying
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that the fans have a right to boo him. Logical anomalies.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Ego says sorry, he mentions it once, but in the
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: middle to Kurt Angle having to become almost anti American
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and in a way try to get him even more
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: over as a babyface, he cuts the pro American promo
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: at the expensive Angle. Nah, I don't respect that, Sean
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Ecky says, I honestly don't think that you would compliment
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: John Cena, no matter what he did. You wouldn't be
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: a John Cena fan if his name was Kurt Angle.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Smart Marx, I don't get him. I actually like that
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you would not cheer for John Cena if his name
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: was Kurt Angle. And we'll end with this from January thirteenth,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: two thousand and six from the newly Improved mister Matola.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: It's his name now, the new and improved, the newly
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: improved what's it? Newly improved mister Matola in a post
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: titled you sena fans really annoy me again? This is
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a January thirteenth, two thousand and six, says Jesus fucks Sina, Marx,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: wake up and smell the suck. The backlash against John
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Sena is not because of WWE Creative, They have a
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: very tiny hand in it, But the blame lies on
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: John Cena. He's bland as hell on the mic and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: has had plenty of time to improve in the ring
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and not look like a complete inept horses ass. For
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: God's sake, jbl was a lazy fuck, but when he
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: won the belt, he improved by leaps and bounds and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: his mic work was superb. Sina botches even the simplest
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: of things, and he's an embarrassment. Look at Batista. He
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: feuded with Eddie and carried his end of the storyline.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Did Eddie overshadow him? No, Dave was right there, being
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: just as entertaining as Eddie. Sina has gone toe to
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: toe with the likes of Christian Jericho and Kurt Angle
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and still sucks. When you don't learn anything or improve
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: as a wrestler and sparring back and forth on the
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: stick with Chris Freakin Jericho, it's time to find a
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: new profession. I got to ask you what do you
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: like about Sina? Because I just don't get it. I
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: just don't, and then we had Presto. Presto was going
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: off here in his response for the last time, Mike
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: fuck off. Telling people their opinion is raw shit. He's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: using his shoot name. Now he's calling a Mike. Now
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: it's getting serious. He says, there's no such thing as
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: a wrong opinion, and we don't have to explain ourselves either.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think he sucks. He's not as good as
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Angle in the Ring, granted, but apparently he impressed enough
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: people to be given the strap and hold on to it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: For every single person that boos Sena at an arena,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: there's one who cheers or screams their ass off. Who
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the fuck cares if it's a child or a woman,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: it's an ass in the sea seen a Merchandise appears
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to be second only behind Eddie in sales. I enjoy
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: his mic work and think he's quite funny at times,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: but I will admit he has his moments of what
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the hell is he talking about? I actually watched the
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Five Questions with the chant bit on WWE dot com
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: and I laugh on occasion, But how the hell do
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you know? He's a pose? His rap gimmick came from
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the fact that someone heard him improvising raps in the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: locker room and apparently thought he was good enough to
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: take it to the air well. Actually it was Stephanie
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: on the bus, but that's for another time. Plus I
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: bet he could kick your ass now. In conclusion, for
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the last time, fuck the fuck off about Sena. We
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: get it, you don't like him. You've made your point. Man.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of hostility towards John Cena even
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: earlier that I remember, but it was coming from a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: small but vocal section of the Internet called RSPW, which
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: just goes to show you wrestling fans have always been
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: the way they are, and you know what, I hope
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: they never change, if for no other reason because years
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: from now it will give me more content from my channel,
• 48:55
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• 48:57
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• 49:01
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• 49:10
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• 49:14
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• 49:18
  Speaker 1: one more episode, but again, hopefully we'll do more of these.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And I am the Solom Monster. That's all I got
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: for you. RSPW episode thirty eight in the books, Solom
• 49:28
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