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F...ing Profanity - Big Picture with Jack Atherton · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Radio.
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  Speaker 2: Just shy of seven h six here Pittybob Karsiti talk
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  Speaker 2: station Wednesday, and thank god we are back to normal
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  Speaker 2: for all those listeners reached out to me, He says,
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  Speaker 2: Where in the heck is Jack Adanan Ben? We miss him?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's time for the big picture, the return
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  Speaker 2: of jack Athan and Jack. I share their the sense
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  Speaker 2: of loss not having on the program last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to have you back on, man.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me back. Pal. Even with
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  Speaker 1: things this week you finally lose your FCC license to
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  Speaker 1: talk about cover up the kid's ears, We're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about effing profanity. Over the years, we've already discussed movies, music, art,
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  Speaker 1: even fashion, all to show that the things we most
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  Speaker 1: despise about Marxist politics bubble up from Marxist pop culture. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I know these may be the least popular segments we do, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: because it's not just Marxists. Most conservatives today also cherish
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  Speaker 1: the pop culture they grew up with, because often it's
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  Speaker 1: all they know. Old fogies in every age claim in
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  Speaker 1: my day everything was better, get off my lawn. Yet
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  Speaker 1: without a shared cultural tradition to build upon culture tends
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  Speaker 1: to degenerate, and as Andrew Breitbart always said, politics is
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  Speaker 1: downstream of culture. We may fixate on winning the next election.
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  Speaker 1: Once in a while. We may even try doing that
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  Speaker 1: by advocating our founder's belief in America, the American idea
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  Speaker 1: of God given individual rights, including free markets protected by
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  Speaker 1: limited d central lines government. But do we explain that
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  Speaker 1: big idea Brian as persuasively as our founders did. No.
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  Speaker 1: So this week let's talk about the way we talk
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  Speaker 1: and if some people object, if you, well, that's my point.
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  Speaker 1: A Cole Porter's song notes good authors to who once
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  Speaker 1: knew better words, now only use four letter words writing prose.
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  Speaker 1: Anything Goes. That was ninety years ago, my friend. Not
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  Speaker 1: long after Anything Goes debuted on Broadway, the most famous
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  Speaker 1: line from Gone with the Wind almost had to be
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  Speaker 1: cut because Hollywood's own sensors banned the word damn. Luckily,
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  Speaker 1: they made exceptions for lines from recognized literary works, so
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  Speaker 1: after some wrangling, Clark Cable did not have to say, Frankly,
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  Speaker 1: my dear, I don't give a darn. But fast forward
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  Speaker 1: to a TV series. I love that we've discussed Brian
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  Speaker 1: because it's about the only place you can hear a
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  Speaker 1: defense of fossil fuels. Landmen realistic about our need for
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  Speaker 1: oil and natural gas. Yet Landmen also achieves present day
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  Speaker 1: realism by making every other word of dialogue n F bomb.
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  Speaker 1: When did we replace better words with four letter words?
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  Speaker 1: And what does that tell us about popular culture and politics? Actually,
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  Speaker 1: four letter words have been around an awfully long time.
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  Speaker 1: From Roman comedy to Shakespeare. Plays that appealed to popular
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  Speaker 1: tastes featured sex, violence, and cussing, until as audiences became
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  Speaker 1: more refined. Even Priggish, a nineteenth century brother and sister
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  Speaker 1: by the name of Bowdler, came out with a sanitized
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  Speaker 1: family Shakespeare. It didn't last that long ever. Since then, though,
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  Speaker 1: the term boblerized means to clean up a vulgar text. However,
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  Speaker 1: Victorian ideas about decency backfire. In search of realism and
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  Speaker 1: social justice, Charles Dickens rightly portrayed thieves and prostitutes. The
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  Speaker 1: revolt against gentility soon spread to all the arts at
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  Speaker 1: the turn of the twentieth century. For example, Picasso's most
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  Speaker 1: famous early painting also portrayed prostitutes. Using the new Cubist technique,
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  Speaker 1: He and George Brock invented to show that you had
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  Speaker 1: to look at reality from different angles to arrive at
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  Speaker 1: the truth. Fair enough, it's a good point. But just
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  Speaker 1: a few years later, modern artists ditched the tradition, going
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  Speaker 1: back to Michelangelo and all the way through Picasso, that
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  Speaker 1: celebrated humanity, and they instead opted for absurdity for nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked previously about the painter named Malevich. He put
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  Speaker 1: a white square on a white canvas and called it
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  Speaker 1: white on white. We've talked about Marcel Duchamp hanging a
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  Speaker 1: urinol in an art gallery and calling in where do
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  Speaker 1: you go from there? Toilet bowls will take music. Mozart
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  Speaker 1: and Schubert led directly to what used to be called
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  Speaker 1: the Great American Songbook Cole Porter, Gershwin, Duke Ellington. There
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  Speaker 1: was plenty of room, Brian in the songbook for early rock,
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  Speaker 1: the product of Field Hollers, Blues and teenage rebellion. But folks,
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  Speaker 1: am I alone in thinking a lot of today's rock
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  Speaker 1: at rap has devolved into a mind numbing rhythm and
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  Speaker 1: shouting that spews obscenities. The risk with any art form
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  Speaker 1: that reduces ourselves, that aims to throw out every rule
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  Speaker 1: is that soon. It's not universal, it's just reduced to
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  Speaker 1: the lowest common denominator. Now in politics, one low point
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  Speaker 1: has to be Democrats recently actually coaching their candidates to
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  Speaker 1: drop more F bombs than President Trump has dropped. On
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  Speaker 1: the eye. Its when you can't think of anything else
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  Speaker 1: to say. When you can't think, just scream F you,
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  Speaker 1: or if your tongue tied, stick out a middle finger.
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  Speaker 1: Better words help us think more clearly. Profanity reduces us
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  Speaker 1: to something subhuman and un American. The best examples of
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  Speaker 1: profound eloquence I can think of are America's founding documents
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  Speaker 1: and our greatest speeches, read aloud with your kids or grandkids,
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  Speaker 1: Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, then Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, and John F.
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy's inaugural address. Everybody remembers his most famous line, ask
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  Speaker 1: not what your country can do for you, ask what
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  Speaker 1: you can do for your country. President Kennedy was an
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  Speaker 1: old time Democrat. Today that's pure maga, along with JFK's
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  Speaker 1: across the board tax cuts and peace through strength, defense spending,
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  Speaker 1: and remember as well Kennedy's other line, now the trumpet summons.
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  Speaker 1: Summons us again, not as a call to bear arms,
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  Speaker 1: though arms we need. Not as a call to battle,
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  Speaker 1: though and battled we are, but a call to bear
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  Speaker 1: the burden of a long twilight struggle against tyranny, poverty, disease,
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  Speaker 1: and war itself. End quote. What didn't you hear, friends?
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  Speaker 1: Not one single f bomb in some I say, clean
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  Speaker 1: up our speech and will help clean up our country?
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  Speaker 1: What do you say? And please keep it clean?
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  Speaker 2: Brother? I agree with you all having day long there?
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  Speaker 2: Jack added, And it's not seriously, I you know, listening
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  Speaker 2: to you and just sort of thinking about where we
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  Speaker 2: are and sort of maybe this this this infusion of
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  Speaker 2: Marx SoC ieteology, which in I never thought I would
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  Speaker 2: see in my lifetime being embraced by so many people.
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  Speaker 2: It's it seems to me, in thinking about art and
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  Speaker 2: the clothing, that you would talk about fashion issues over
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  Speaker 2: the cover several conscious conversations. Whatever is going on that
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  Speaker 2: is perceived to be the norm, the status quo, what
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  Speaker 2: is generally accepted, what is the shared cultural condition at
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  Speaker 2: any given moment in history, people somehow or other feel
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  Speaker 2: the need to rebel against it for whatever reason. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's You'll see that in the art community all
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  Speaker 2: the time, and it's like, there's no accepted just we're done.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna stick with this as a form. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: there's gotta be something different out there, and I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to go after it regardless of where it goes. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's how you end up with an upside down crucifix
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  Speaker 2: in a jar of urine and someone calling it art.
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  Speaker 2: It offends, it's shocking, Oh my god, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: people react that way, and then there's this media snowball
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  Speaker 2: effect that goes on, did you see what that person did?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god? And then there's the outrage that ensues
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  Speaker 2: from some people, and there's others that go out and
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  Speaker 2: defend it, and people click on that and people write
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  Speaker 2: about it. It's, you know, the building of celebrity or
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  Speaker 2: being noticed. Because you have so far rebelled against whatever
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  Speaker 2: is the cultural norm, it's going to get you noticed.
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  Speaker 2: And that seems to me and that's what I've arrived
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  Speaker 2: at with regard the use of the F bomb so
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  Speaker 2: much more frequently now that the F bomb is becoming
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  Speaker 2: a kind of a regularly used word in all forms
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  Speaker 2: of conversation, It's like The Brits are about ten years
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  Speaker 2: or more ahead of us on that one, because you
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  Speaker 2: hear nothing but that all the time over there. At
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  Speaker 2: least that was my experience. But that seems to be
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  Speaker 2: it rebel just for the sake of rebellion, rebel just
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  Speaker 2: because you want to be that person, You want to
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  Speaker 2: get the attention for being the fly and the ointment.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this culture of outrage and victimhood, when people are
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  Speaker 1: not victims, they are the luckiest people in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It brings us down and it makes us easier to
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  Speaker 1: be led. You have mentioned the Democrats ludicrous coordinated attempts
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  Speaker 1: to seem hip by cursing, though in fairness, for many
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  Speaker 1: of them, rofanity is not appose. You remember when Barack
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  Speaker 1: Obama signed Obama Vice President Joe Biden, not yet senile,
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  Speaker 1: whispered into the President's ear and right into a microphone.
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  Speaker 1: This is a big thefin deal. But to be completely fair,
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's natural way of speaking in public bristles with profanity,
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  Speaker 1: as when he calls some South American and African nations
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  Speaker 1: excrement whole countries. I cleaned that up. Obscene insults paving
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  Speaker 1: the way for Trump's joking threats to annex hostile places
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  Speaker 1: from Canada to Greenland and illustrated horror moves. Mister Trump
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  Speaker 1: used to say, if he wanted, he could be as
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  Speaker 1: presidential as honest Abe Lincoln, who did not curse. Meantime,
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  Speaker 1: he and all of us might try emulating another president,
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  Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt. Speak softly and carry a big stick.
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  Speaker 2: I like that one. And I did a quick search
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  Speaker 2: knowing anticipation of your topic because I didn't know your
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  Speaker 2: subject matter was effing profanity. Apparently, research shows that nearly
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  Speaker 2: ninety percent of recorded US presidential profanity since nineteen nineteen
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  Speaker 2: happened in the last decade. It's a downward, de evolutionary
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  Speaker 2: spiral war on across all those subject matters, Jack Advan, it.
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  Speaker 1: Is, and we can reverse it. But as with everything
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  Speaker 1: you and I talk about, it has to start at home,
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  Speaker 1: and it has to start with us.
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  Speaker 2: Jack, what would have been the outcome with you growing up?
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  Speaker 2: And if you to cursed in front of your mom
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  Speaker 2: along these lines.
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  Speaker 1: My mom is listening right now. She's one of your
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  Speaker 1: most loyal listeners, and I guarantee you she is not
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  Speaker 1: yelling at a profanity. She's yelling out. I didn't raise
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  Speaker 1: my son that way.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, And I could still hear my dad's voice
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  Speaker 2: about that kind of thing. You know, man, you better
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  Speaker 2: not use that of any kind of language in front
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  Speaker 2: of your mom. It was always being respectful, and I
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  Speaker 2: grew up in a war with yes, sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am. No. Man,
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  Speaker 2: when's the last time you heard that from anybody? In fact,
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  Speaker 2: every time might hear a young person say it, and
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  Speaker 2: it's not very often. I just I do a double take, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we talk about mom and that conjures up
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  Speaker 1: in our minds and image of apple pie, an apple
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  Speaker 1: cheeked woman. How many generations have gone by since the
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  Speaker 1: time we began using profanity as water coming out of
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  Speaker 1: a fountain?
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  Speaker 2: Too many?
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  Speaker 1: Just you know, if your mom spoke that way when
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  Speaker 1: she was young, and her mom spoke that way when
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  Speaker 1: she was young, chances are you're going to speak that
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  Speaker 1: way too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh that's true. And you see that leads me
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  Speaker 2: to the point we're just going to make exactly that point.
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  Speaker 2: I heard a story. So it was a teacher who
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember which school system, and I believe My
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  Speaker 2: wife relaid this to me just the other day. Anybody
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  Speaker 2: had a conversation with her. A child, a very young child,
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  Speaker 2: element young elementary school age child cursed the teacher out,
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  Speaker 2: and the teacher recoiled like I couldn't believe that this
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  Speaker 2: young person was driving so many curse words. And when
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  Speaker 2: the administration was asked about what to do about it,
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  Speaker 2: the reaction was pretty much boiled down to will just
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  Speaker 2: let it go? And I think that's to your point.
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  Speaker 2: You can't punish the child because the child grew up
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  Speaker 2: in a home where those words are used regularly in
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  Speaker 2: all forms of conversation. How is the child to know
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  Speaker 2: what's appropriate and inappropriate if they haven't been raised to
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  Speaker 2: know what a curse word actually is, that there is
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  Speaker 2: such a such a thing as an outlier word that
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  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to use, or.
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  Speaker 1: Even if the parents don't speak that way. The child
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  Speaker 1: becomes exposed to popular culture, Ramesley and I, as you know, Tutor,
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  Speaker 1: fourth graders they're angels. I mean, they're the same kind
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  Speaker 1: of kids you would have seen one hundred years ago,
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  Speaker 1: but then they step out into this world of pop culture.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would expect any parents who have the want
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  Speaker 2: to serve their children's best interests and actually hire a
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  Speaker 2: tutor or get them in front of a tutor. Probably
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  Speaker 2: came from a pretty sound home anyway, where parents care
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  Speaker 2: about and are concerned about the future of their children's education.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is a local public school, Well, they're doing
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  Speaker 1: the best they can. You know, nobody castigates the schools
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  Speaker 1: more than I when it comes to things like using
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  Speaker 1: Howard's in history books and all the rest. They do
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  Speaker 1: what they can. But how do you escape the world?
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  Speaker 2: Good point, jack Athanan always making great points here in
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  Speaker 2: this particular segment, which you call the Big Picture with
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  Speaker 2: Jack Avian and Jack. I look forward to next Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: and doing it again. I hope you in your better half,
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  Speaker 2: stay healthy and much love to both of you. Have
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  Speaker 2: a great week, my friend,