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Reach For Excellence · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast with my partner.
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Brian, Sigler, I am Curtis Wilson.
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Brian, how are you this fine Thursday, evening.
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Man, doing good doing good. How you doing over there in the
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West End, buddy? Hanging in there, man, and what
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feels like an extremely long week?
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We're wrapping that up tomorrow with it being Friday.
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You know, at some baseball tonight, starting this a little
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later than usual but you know, it is what it is.
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How about you on your side of town?
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Good man. Started the week with a couple
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of doctors appointments or kind of adjacent to that son.
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Had a dentist appointment. I got my second second vaccine
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dose there, so started with that no side effects for me other
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than like a little sore arm. So I'll take It but otherwise
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been a good week, man. Been a real good week.
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Very nice to hear that man. Very nice to hear that sound
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like you've been adulting a lot this week.
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Hell yeah, try my damndest idli. Yeah, every week, it's adulting
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folks, stay young if you can. All right well folks got a lot
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to get to today. Obviously with the 420
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announcement that's going to be our biggest piece tonight.
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But over the last few weeks there has been some other topics
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as well. I really appreciate all the
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listens on the Christina Garnett interview and I think maybe the
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football program and athletic department might have been
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listening. There are some things that were
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discussed that were already seen, but we'll get to that a
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little bit later but Brian, let's start out right before we
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press record. Last time we got a nice verbal
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commitment from Alex orgy, that's Ashley Texas.
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Restore, we're 15 ranked Jewel, threat quarterback in the
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country. 6226 he built already. Had offers from Baylor,
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Michigan. Houston as well as, I mean
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offers from Oklahoma and TCU what you think of this Pickup
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Man of a quarterback second quarterback of the class.
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You know what, I liked it a lot. I feel like with with some of
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the transfer we had getting to this cycle was necessary so I'm
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liking that we got got to in already.
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I like this kid. A lot reminds me of Patterson
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little Kewpie there, a little bit, one more quote, but a
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little bit closer, in terms of, like, polished throwing motion
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to Hendon, then QP there. But still still raw.
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So he's going to need some work, but sky's the limit in terms of
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his terms of his talent, because he has that good blend of size
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and athleticism and a strong arm.
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So we'll see how it's all summer.
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The highlights from one of the camps.
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He was that looks like he's doing pretty good.
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Slinging the ball around there. So looking forward to getting
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this campus and seeing what we can do with them in this system?
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Oh yeah. He had a very impressive Elite
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11 camps. I don't Southlake Carroll.
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He was basically considered the best fall athletic quarterback
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there, which is really good. You know, whether you make the
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Elite 11, or you get like this, Warden tells the guy, you know,
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we saw some of the pictures man, he's built.
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He's one of those kids if he polished in between now and the
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day he walks on campus, he could compete because there's no,
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there's no, he's 230 pounds, his legs are huge, his upper body's
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built. What we like to do with
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quarterbacks. He could definitely take it.
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Definitely good. Definitely good pickup.
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Second Devon, Fair a little different.
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So it's very Very interesting to see how that all shape out now,
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weren't down done, yet. In the state of Texas yet.
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Texas to DT is back everybody. Haha, yeah, that's just a VT is
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BAC gone but not forgotten. Go knock em dead but very
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interesting recruit here. Johnny Dixon, the offensive
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guard at a Flower Bluff and in Corpus Christi Texas, 88, 3
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star, the 13th, ranked guard in the country.
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So again, as you get into the offensive line, as you start
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getting into those teams, is where you're starting to see
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guys, who are four star star. He's borderline in it right now.
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Had offers from Oklahoma Oklahoma State, Texas A&M.
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And one that really caught some folks eyes out there.
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And I saw somebody mentioned this Arkansas, Arkansas is
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coached by saying Pittman Sam, Pittman was the guy who put the
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Georgia offensive lines together the last three or four years for
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took the Arkansas job. One of those things, somebody
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said is Sam. Pittman offered him.
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You want a player like that? I agree 100% with him.
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Brian. Did you get a chance to peek at
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his State since he just committed yesterday?
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I haven't got to look at it bunch of his tape yet.
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But what I've seen from some of the folks, some of the stuff
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that's been posted on social media, looks like a perfect fit
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at guard, definitely a need position in terms of the next
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three years. In terms of building out the
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roster especially the way we've been looking at the offensive
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line. You still concerned about depth
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on that that unit over the course of the next few years.
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So it's nice to get a guy in there and with some of the As
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we're hearing about Jack's sliding down, it potentially
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Center that. That's some we're starting to
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fill in at least the interior line over the next couple of
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years. Potentially.
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So we'll see what happens if the tackle position.
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And if we were able to bring in another transfer or get some you
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know, High 3 and low for Star guys in at that position, going
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forward, but getting a guy like Johnny Dixon is going to
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definitely help. Been playing that Texas
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competition. I'm not sure about the league,
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whether it's a high-level competition league but there's
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pretty much no you know, no slouches out there in Texas.
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So and having a guy that used to be in the in the 757 area to
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kind of understands the program and what it's all about.
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So good pickup. I will say though I'll throw a
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little a little criticism on the end of this year, you know,
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right now we're treating A guy like Johnny Dixon, this kind of
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like Top Flight level of the class where he really should be
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like the meat and potatoes of a class.
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Yeah, true. I'm with you.
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Johnny Dixon's a damn good pick up with what he does and where
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he ranks, but he is not that. He should not be the Crown Jewel
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of the class that is no disrespect to him.
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So everybody jumping them down. Is it good?
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You got two of these commits. Are they solid players?
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Yeah, but this is kind of what happened last year, you're still
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looking for the crown jewels. You're still looking for the
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more Elite guys who put at the top of your class where you have
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guys like Johnny who are really good players.
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Now could Dixon an orgy, Step Up intentionally be you know, as
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you know, sort of the crown jewels.
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Yes. They both have the build,
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they're both playing and leagues so they have the potential but
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you don't want to be thanking this early on.
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Guys like that. To be your crown jewels.
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Yeah. You know we're still talking
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about, you know, late, April here.
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We don't want to count guys that are high three stars that
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they're going to get a bump up to that that four-star range.
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And if they get the bump your they're going to be like in that
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Fringe area. Anyway they're just going to be
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on the other side of the of the of the Rope there.
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So that's still nothing to necessarily.
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Hang your hat on at the same time, they're good.
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Solid pickups and should be good contributors to the program
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going forward. But if we want to build that
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recruiting momentum, we're going to need to start Landing more of
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the four-star guys, to kind of, you know, beat our chest a
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little bit and show the rest of the ACC that we means of
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business, on the recruiting Trail.
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Absolutely, absolutely. Let's turn real quick and
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probably in a few weeks here. Guys, were probably going to go
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a little bit more in-depth into spring practice.
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Again, things have been going on in our lives that kind of
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prevented us from keeping a good heart.
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Grass, what was going on over the next few weeks?
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We'll start getting into that but one piece of news that came
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out. Very disheartening, was Chiang,
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Rai stores ACL and you feel for the guy played of the Villanova
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wanted to ascend to take that. Step Up in competition, you get
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more eyes on him. Potentially, as you put good
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numbers up at Villanova go to Virginia Tech, he won playing
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ACC type schedule and I put up numbers may be at looked at in
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the NFL came in so late last year and kind of started
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flashing at the end of the season.
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But it just stinks because you saw what he did in that UVA game
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as a stick mover and you want a guy like that?
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You want a guy that it's make easy terms, where the
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quarterback, you know, What do you think bro?
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Yeah, I think he did a really good job of that later in the
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season, getting some separation from the the corners and the
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secondary that he was going up against having a guy like that.
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Just even if it's coming in to give tray a few series off here,
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they're working in the slot. If he needs to give you some of
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the other guys, a break there, if he could just got it, I've
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gotten some some extra reps there.
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I think he would have This a lot.
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But you know, that's where that's where the stinks here,
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man. Because, you know, he definitely
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could have been a high-level contributor at a position where
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we don't have a whole lot of experience death.
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You know, I feel like we got a good number of wide receivers in
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general, but we don't have very many guys at this point, that
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you can count on like that. We know we can count on because
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we've seen them do it and we're getting less by the day and
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That's getting a little scary that you know, beyond the first
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three or four guys who we who were going to count on.
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So that's concerning and Chang are going down with that injury
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definitely makes that even more of a dicey situation.
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So hopefully we can either get a guy in the portal to Shore that
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up a little bit or some of the other guys step up this fall.
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Absolutely 100% more people have got to step up and you know it's
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one of those places. We have a lot of bodies there
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who can go out and provide that help it'll be very interesting
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to see. All right, Brian, let's let's
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one last piece. We hit a little bit with
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Christina. The shortfalls of the athletic
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department. in the football program to put on paid only do a
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spring game, you don't want to bring people to the city, the
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town of Blacksburg complaining, you're trying to be safe, you're
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trying to get it over with Now, that the spring is one thing we
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should have at least had a spring production.
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Do you some sort of something stream somewhere should have
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happened? Whether that's a practice that
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had cameras, whether that was an actual scrimmage where they just
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stream on the ACC Network or on hokey Sports, whatever was there
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needed to be something especially if you.
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Do you regret to announce this fucking Reach For Excellence?
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Campaign like masses, what? What better?
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I mean you talked about it that you were originally planning to
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roll out of spring game last year, get some Buzz behind the
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program going into this, offseason going to this little
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stretch where there's not a lot of news, get some Buzz.
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So people open their wallets even more freely than they did
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based on the announcement. Like it's so easy and the thing
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that stinks for me is that you had like that's that's all
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fanbase stuff, right? So most Over to my right now was
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engaging fans and stuff like that but there's so much that
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could have been done like getting recruits to look at
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this. That really could have helped on
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the trail and not let so it's not just a donor thing, it's not
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just a fan thing. This could have really helped on
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the recruiting Trail as well saying.
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This is what we're doing. I mean UCF had like the hashtag
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jerseys that they had out there. Florida state did something.
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I mean there's there were so many unique ways of having some
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sort of spring even if you didn't have.
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Have people in the stadium at the tailgate, you know, while
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it's in the stands and shit like that.
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Like there's so many other way to generate buzz and donations
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and recruiting that could have been used that weren't I just
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see it as an opportunity, I don't really care that I
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couldn't come to the game. It's a missed opportunity to do
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all those other things. Well, it's, again, it's where
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whip your bullshit and back in December.
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We're going to make more access you made.
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No access. You may know accent, like we got
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a repackaged version of the hard hat series with more actual
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practice live footage. But again, we're still not in
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Christine talked about it and we talked about a little bit the
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we're not getting the reciprocal stuff.
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We're not getting the back-and-forth.
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We're getting very. Here is the stuff you requested
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and we're either take it or we don't there's not that let me
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get you involved in the program feel like you're a part of it.
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It's what she said. It doesn't feel like a fan is
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running. It feels like a corporation.
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Here's what you get. Here is what you get here in
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this. Like, screw that we wanted to
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see a game. And some of those like will
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recruit one look at it. Well, if you package it right,
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they will. If you package it, where you're
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talking to players where you know what they should have done
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smart went super silent on it, recorded it talked to like the
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players on the sideline and say hey hey two nights from now.
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Check out a SEC network, our stuff dropping, I say some
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things on. There are current guys talking
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to recruit our coaches saying things to recruit again.
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Everybody is been on it and you know what, I think it's
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partially Just for one day, didn't want to have a spring
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game in in this was his easy way out.
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He could say, in the presser on this having people here have
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been here for five years. None of them have ever been
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recorded. You had to be in person.
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We showed up back in 16, it was a great time, great atmosphere.
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So again, if you're with Babcock, And this is the person
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that's going to continue to be in charge, he just lay the
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hammer and say you're going to do this shit.
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What if I don't want to then you can get your ass out of the
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fucking program. See you.
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I'm at some point, just got to take the little victories that
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you can have. That are really, they're simple
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on your and, you know, people will say, oh well, it costs
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money to put on the spring game. Again, whether it does or not,
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whether it does or not, You could still have recorded a
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practice, you can still have recorded some sort of scrimmage,
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that wasn't broadcast on the ACC Network where you have to bring
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in officials where you have to bring in media Crews and shit
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like that. You know that they pay officials
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to come in for every scrimmage. So what's the fucking
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difference? Our history history, it's not
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the money, it's not the money loser that like the, the
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naysayers were claiming it was that the I'll leave it at that.
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I'm not saying you wouldn't be in the red.
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I just simply think regardless of what that red is and knowing,
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it's not that much. It would have been worth it to
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get it on. Either the network on hokey,
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Sports scrimmage, practice, whatever the fuck you want to do
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to be it is a chance to get free exposure to your program in.
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The best light possible and you don't do it.
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That is a failure of the leadership of the program and
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the athletic department in my humble opinion.
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Boom. All right, let's jump off that
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because we could go on for days. All right, real quick.
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Our nice package defensive line feature with Coach wheelchair on
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it Morel Pollard Mario Kendricks I loved it.
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I think they did a good job. I like the kind of the realness
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of the discussion and kind of letting the players say what
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they want to say. And then I feel like coach
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tearling kind of wrapped in a bow.
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Well, and kind of related it back to stuff.
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You see on the field. I thought it was informative.
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I liked his energy that he brought to the d-line practice
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sessions and I liked how guys were holding each other
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accountable on the practice field as well.
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I thought that was. That was a good representation.
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So overall, no complaints on that.
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I just feel like we need more or something different to go along
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with that. If that was in conjunction with
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more, like fan friendly events and things like that, perfect no
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complaints. But that is being the, the
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deepest dive of impact that fans are getting and not getting that
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reciprocal thing that that that's where it kind of kind of
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hurts for me. So that's really.
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My only complaint is that this is the most, we get, not the
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content itself, it's the most. We get the content itself is
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solid, the content itself should be again.
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That's a nice little package to have every few weeks.
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But there's more. Yeah and won't more.
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We're not satisfied with little packages because little package
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is just like, okay great. I got to know a little bit more
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about Barrio see him on the field here that's cool.
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I want more, let's move on braund obviously the
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announcement the reach for excellent announcement that came
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with 420, a 400 million-dollar in flux.
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Into the athletic department, know it.
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But let's comment on something real quick.
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Before we get into it, they definitely put that in the
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morning on purpose. Because if they put in the
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afternoon, everyone was going to be fucking baked.
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I mean, Tommy, how's it work? For a while?
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Inside circles like something's bigs coming, it's going to
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change the landscape of the whole you know, the football
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Department significantly, the athletic department.
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Really big and it's things that since we started this podcast,
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we've called for in their hands out on, you know, Twitter.
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I don't social media, you know, questions being asked by the
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media and kind of all finally came to fruition.
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And we're going to kind of hit it in piece by piece goes.
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We're going to start with comments from whipped machine.
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Me Tim sayings then wit, look at the castle renovation and then
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get into the football stuff. Let's just go ahead.
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Look Start with the sayings. He said it working set.
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It only Athletics are important. Were you shocked?
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I wasn't shocked that he thought it.
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I'm shocked. He said it out loud because
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anybody that looks at any data piece about Virginia Tech knows
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that Athletics have driven a lot of the economic Goodwill.
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In the community and in the school, if you don't see that
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you're fucking blind, it was nice.
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That he said it, he did point out that like some of the
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efforts with this started with the boundless impact campus-wide
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fundraising campaign, that began.
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I guess they were discussing it as far as four years back, they
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launched it in Earnest and early 2019.
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And this was kind of supposed to be built off from that and then
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announced at the spring game. 20/20.
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And then obviously covid happened and things shut down in
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mid-march. And apparently everything got
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put on hold, which was probably the right move, but I think in
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the interim, we didn't realize how much Goodwill the program in
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general, would lose in the interim.
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And I think that kind of put put put, put the impetus on them to
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get this out as sooner as soon as able and get this ball
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rolling. And I mean they've talked about
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some of the things that were part of this.
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We're starting to be put in place without a formal
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announcement last year like some of the additional recruiting
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positions, but it was good to hear Sans acknowledge that and
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it was good to hear what we had to say after that, it's very
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true, the biggest piece of it that you know 400 million but
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the university itself is going to be increasing its money to
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help. Help move for jigna Tech into
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the operating. Having the operating money of
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the top third of the programs in the ACC and you start moving top
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third of the ACC, you're essentially moving into the top
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25 in the country. And that's the, that's the big
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piece. We're going to get into a little
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bit because wit gave the number and I don't think me and you
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were shot because I think we looked last year at some of the
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numbers. And it was like, we need to be
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higher because we looked at other peoples.
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But to have Tim Sands, kind of a kind of say it, you know, say it
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that it's important. All the sports are important.
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All the sports are doing well. He kind of even, you know, kind
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of having kind of gloss over like football that have the best
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butt. We're we're football now needs
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to become the cash cow that it is so but on sayings you got the
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Amazon, you got it rolling. Now you're dumping money to what
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is the most visual? Aspect of your University while
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program in the basketball program.
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Now, let's jump over to wit. So many different places where
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you want to go on this? Brian.
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So, anything I'd say, let's start with the goal for the, the
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football budget, and the total operating budget for the
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athletic department. So, we're talking about, looks
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like a over 25 million dollar increase in the operating annual
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operating budget over the next, what four years that's playing.
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Yeah, and the goal for the football budget is for a 30
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million increase over various elements of their budget in that
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same time frame. So that's not necessarily
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operation. So if you're doing the math,
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obviously 25 million, increase, 30 million increase.
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Something's a job in there. The 30 million is spread over
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various elements of the budget operations being one of them.
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So some part of that 30 million chunk is in the 25 million.
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That's going, that's the goal for the, the total athletic
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department, but they emphasize that football is important.
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They are going to invest in it going forward.
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Um, but the other big thing we that we talked about was you're
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bringing it to the level of bringing everything with leg
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department, but football in particular to the level of the
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peers in the conference and I think that's something that we
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had been harping on a lot is that, you know, we're in the 40s
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on most of these things, in terms of the financial
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investment lower on some ends higher on others.
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But average somewhere in the mid to high 40s in these These
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things. And we need to be at least at
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that, top 25 level and hopefully overachieve, you know, based on
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the, the financial input that we're putting in there, and can
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take the next step and compete for ACC championships again.
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And he did say it compete for national titles.
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Absolutely. Well, he compared budget-wise,
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ACC of the top dogs or where you are with Clemson Florida State
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and he did mention Notre Dame Louisville and he's assuming
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Miami, they are on operating budget of 130 million dollars.
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This brings us up to 125 and where we were wants eight to ten
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in this sort of category or now probably going to be positioned
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probably right at five. Yeah.
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Anywhere between four and six depending on one year depending
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on on various things. Yeah, you out.
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Raise one year, you go higher. But the point that he made was
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we had been down there, you talked about in the 40s, we're
26:56
talking about in the bottom half of the ACC Finance wise and
27:02
still overachieving still during the latter years of Frank, when,
27:07
you know, having gone to the Sugar Bowl, winning 10 games,
27:11
Early part of the winter are the ten, winning the nine win
27:14
Seasons doing that on a low-end budget.
27:18
And we do get the basketball program and how it's done.
27:21
You know, with Buzz. Now, Mike on a lower-end budget.
27:25
That's damn impressive. He's damned impressive takes.
27:29
Look at 16 and 17 and look at what buzz and Mike Young's done
27:32
with basketball and said, we were competing like that and we
27:36
didn't have near the amount of funds.
27:37
That's insane. You know, go do that to Clemson.
27:43
I have a feeling one compete that well, but, you know,
27:47
another thing that he said, Brian and me and you kind of And
27:56
kind of talked about it a little bit.
27:59
Was what essentially saying his goal is for Virginia Tech to
28:03
become The role model program. If we wrap up our pants and we
28:09
said here, and we were talking, what are the role model programs
28:13
or programs top football and basketball, do your Olympic
28:18
sports are some of the best. First one that popped in my head
28:23
was Florida. And the first one that popped
28:27
into my head was Michigan. And you think about those
28:30
programs, those are very good in football, but they're very good
28:34
in basketball. But baseball programs have made
28:37
the College World Series in the last five years.
28:39
Each have Olympic and other sports Florida volleyball.
28:44
Huge go. Michigan has some of their
28:47
Olympic sports. This big top to bottom, they're
28:50
competing in everything and believe it or not.
28:52
You think about the way we are right now, less football.
28:55
That's the way the Hokies are looking basketball.
28:59
Rank this year. May the tournament baseball
29:02
ranked. Well on its way to making the
29:04
NCAA Baseball. Tournament Wrestling top 10
29:08
program won the ACC, Jules what for all Americans at.
29:15
Indoor track and field men's championship, softball shrink
29:22
soccer's. Making that you want to talk
29:25
about building it the Lesser programs, are they?
29:28
And I know something mean you talked about Brian that maybe
29:31
people don't agree with what with did, but maybe the goal was
29:37
I've got to fix this. Get the baby ready, get football
29:42
and basketball, ready? Because now with the renewed
29:45
interest in those non-revenue Sports, there's going to be some
29:50
big donor. You talk about it, Brian.
29:52
There's going to be some big donor at lausanne or maybe they
29:56
ran it Tech and they wouldn't have a significantly successful
29:59
career that says, well, how much money does indoor track need
30:02
this year? 200,000 dollar, operating budget
30:05
rights. Check he go.
30:07
That's what what gets to do when you look at the foot.
30:09
Ball money. You don't need to write a check
30:12
for indoor track. Somebody's covered it already.
30:17
It definitely gives him more flexibility with the budget to
30:21
put more money back into football.
30:23
If other sports are more self-sufficient and we're not
30:26
talking, we're not talking about the non revs, all of a sudden
30:31
being 100%, you know, liquid with with their operating
30:37
budget. Like, they're still going to
30:39
need The money that's coming from football operations, to
30:44
fund, various aspects of their sport but the less that has to
30:49
be pulled from the revenue that football generates and put into
30:54
these non-revenue. Sports, the more, the revenue
30:56
that football generates gets to stay in football.
31:00
And that's a good thing for long-term.
31:01
And that's a good thing, especially when done in
31:05
conjunction with these budget increases with these incentives
31:11
and goals for the program, before we move into those five
31:16
pillars for the football program.
31:17
The, let's talk a little bit about the castle renovation
31:21
plan. What do you think of it buddy?
31:24
It looks awesome. I mean, it really does.
31:28
It is, you know, it's taking a piece of architecture that was
31:31
built, late 1960s, early 1970s, it's keeping the architectural
31:38
Integrity, they're bringing it into the 21st century.
31:45
You know, we talked about it's not going to be one complete
31:47
overhaul because he really wants to the team to stay there.
31:50
I think that's very smart. I think, you know, trying to
31:54
move it down to Salem Civic Center or over to the Roanoke
31:59
Civic Center. While you're doing this, don't
32:02
do that. You've got a buzz going with
32:05
Mike yelling right now. Yep.
32:08
Keep the heat not only the fans engaged to being on campus.
32:13
Keep the students engaged to being on campus.
32:16
Now that keep that home court advantage in place to, because
32:20
people do not like to play in Castle.
32:23
No, they don't. They don't, it is that I've
32:27
never been in Castle. Goal will be to go probably in
32:30
the next few years during the renovations.
32:32
But again, those buildings the way they're built, it's just
32:36
like think about using the free throws about the way it's set
32:39
up. It's an awkward free.
32:41
Throw shot to the student section.
32:44
They show that behind picture in here, like me.
32:45
That is the depth perception with the fans kind of Cohen up
32:49
down. Very weird tough place to play
32:52
now. Brian, we talked about the four
32:54
year phase. Me and Brian.
32:57
What? Babcock, if you're listening.
32:58
We want to tell you how this phase needs to be done.
33:02
All right. He's won.
33:07
He's won. Completely redo the boxes.
33:13
Nothing else in Phase 1, micron. Redo the boxes that was my first
33:19
thought. Like I said, I don't know to
33:22
what degree, any sort of exterior modifications going to
33:25
be need for needed for this, but getting the boxes in there does
33:30
a big thing which is you get more money for those seats,
33:37
which thin then be put back into the budget for the further
33:43
Renovations that are needed to be completing this phase.
33:45
So if You get the boxes done, then things start paying for
33:49
themselves, a little bit more. Oh yeah.
33:51
And you're also keeping donors who are writing the biggest
33:54
checks, happy, you're giving them a new home.
33:57
Take their clientele into you have potentially other big money
34:02
donors to come in and say, hey, yeah, I'm giving someone.
34:04
So and this is my box. What do you think of it?
34:06
I want one. Hope you're gonna have to pay
34:09
more money bing bing bing bing. The second piece of it that we
34:18
discussed would be. Like, for me it's like school
34:22
will change the Aesthetics on the inside next.
34:27
And why say the Aesthetics the new scoreboard, the new walkways
34:31
you're seeing and not the seating per se is because bring
34:36
people in there and show them this all the new stuff that's
34:40
happening. Probably new concessions, the
34:43
new scoreboard, the new visual stimulation because it have
34:49
someone who is looking at purchasing season tickets in the
34:52
future. You're selling them at selling
34:56
them about this is this is awesome.
34:59
Atmosphere is great, this looks good.
35:01
What do you say? I agree with that because as
35:04
much as the seat, I put my ass in his important, some of that
35:08
other stuff is more important in the short term.
35:10
I feel like because most people going to put their ass in
35:13
whatever they enjoy, whether whether it's uncomfortable or
35:17
not, whether it's tighter than they like whatever.
35:19
The problem with the physical seat itself, baby.
35:23
If the Other stuff going around them stimulates them the way
35:26
they want to. They're going to more or less be
35:29
happy. For less be having an experience
35:34
upgrade without the physical seat upgrade wall without the
35:38
fit because if you were to take someone who is interested in
35:42
basketball and the boxes are done in the seats are done
35:46
great. Just looks like an old stadium.
35:50
It's not that in potentially purchase taken.
35:54
Third of already said it. It's the seat then deceit
35:58
because you've kept a big money, happy you've got something that
36:04
interest people that brings them in the building.
36:06
Now, I'll make them comfortable. And then lastly Brian me and you
36:13
our prior conversation couple days ago, then you do the
36:16
outside work but the outside be the last piece.
36:21
Again Aesthetics are nice. Aesthetics may help a little bit
36:24
with recruiting and just general feel of campus, but the people
36:28
that are going that are paying money to go to these games.
36:31
I think care more about what's happening inside the walls than
36:34
what's happening outside. Absolutely.
36:38
And I think what's currently going on with the basketball
36:40
program. you know that kyiv testing the waters, but you
36:46
still feel like even if he doesn't come back Top 25, top 30
36:52
team tournament team if Keith comes back but like adding storm
36:57
Murphy and potentially and the kid out of use.
37:00
USF, if Keith comes back. I think we're ranked like 12 to
37:07
open the season. I'd say, somewhere in that range
37:10
and somewhere in the 10 to 15, for sure.
37:13
That's kind of what I was begging their so that's going to
37:17
be big for that program and that's going to, you know, it'll
37:20
be, it'll be interesting to see how that team reacts with those
37:24
type of expectations but on them because that's something that
37:27
you've over your essentially been a year early year, 1 and
37:31
year 2 under Mike young. Let's see with these
37:33
expectations how the team reacts and what they do because I think
37:38
the sky's the Limit in terms of what they can achieve, they just
37:44
got to go and do it and make sure they come together and play
37:47
the play. The type of basketball that they
37:48
need to at a consistent level because consistency has probably
37:51
been the one thing that has dog. The team, the last two years is
37:55
that, you know, they'll have, you know, three three, good
38:00
games play really, really well up to competition.
38:03
And then have a game where they play down to some lesser
38:07
competition, or have a game where they just and for whatever
38:10
reason, the ball just won't go in the damn hoop and shrimp and
38:14
they lose a game that they on paper should have one and if we
38:18
can get those games minimized or eliminated then that's going to
38:25
be really big for that program. Is that means, then you're
38:28
looking at You go 500 against those top tier opponents or 500
38:33
or better against those top tier opponents and you're looking at
38:36
a higher rank in the ACC tournament.
38:40
You looking at a higher rank going into the NCAA tournament
38:43
and then you can make a try to make a run depending on how
38:46
those matchups lineup. And true, again, great things
38:51
for the basketball program. Great thing for the athletic
38:53
department in general. But as we've already mentioned
38:57
before, this is a massive boost to the football program.
39:02
Probably something that should have been done quite a few years
39:05
ago. You're getting the resources
39:08
they need. Football which stimulate the
39:12
local economy up to 100 million dollars?
39:14
A year, getting things that need to get back to the level of the
39:19
expectations. That assist fans, you know,
39:23
going on, 20, 25 years expected to be and what we're going to go
39:29
through. Now guys, is we're going to
39:31
break down the five sections that were specifically discussed
39:34
with the dollar amounts and kind of, not only how we think is
39:39
going to help but little Maybe our visions of what we hope they
39:43
do. Brian, let's start with the
39:46
number one. We talked about getting to
39:48
recruit Sara Lee. Let's talk about recruiting
39:51
recruit staff, man. That's the big one.
39:54
That's the one they LED off with, and that's the one that,
39:58
you know, they did the whole silent roll out a little bit
40:01
starting last year with some of the new positions looks like
40:05
they're looking to grow that even further as I heard
40:08
something about them currently Looking to fill eight positions
40:11
on that across that staff going into 2021, that's going to be
40:17
big because recruiting is definitely the area.
40:21
I think that we have fallen the most short in terms of the
40:26
controllable aspects or at least the Quasi controllable aspects
40:30
that really have Money plays a role, but not as much of a role,
40:37
but getting positions. Like this can highlight the
40:40
areas that we've done. Well, in, in the recruiting
40:43
Trail and minimize some of those negative aspects that we've seen
40:48
over the few years. So, getting those hires is going
40:51
to be big and seeing how that grows.
40:53
And like I said, the Highlight they made was full-time staff
40:58
versus volunteers and that's really big for those on campus
41:03
visits, that's really big. We're staying in contact with
41:06
these recruits on a more regular basis and I'm looking forward to
41:11
seeing that pay some dividends whether it's with this coach or
41:16
the next coach. I feel like this is going to be
41:19
the biggest impact for the school.
41:22
Well, you know, it can be it, absolutely is and they're
41:24
talking about, it's five million dollars over six years, you
41:28
know? And that's the X additional.
41:30
There's already a small budget there.
41:32
You probably might guess it's Really going to make the budget
41:35
a million dollars a year, maybe a little over maybe slightly
41:38
under. But anyway, getting to the level
41:41
of a top-25 program and it's the position you talk about the pain
41:47
positions versus volunteers and don't get me wrong, this is no
41:50
knock on the volunteer, but when it's your job to do this and get
41:57
to put it on a resume or you're trying to work your way out of
42:01
this, in the history of collegiate.
42:04
It potentially professional football.
42:06
Having a paying job is very important.
42:09
Having something you put on your resume, saying what you did is
42:12
super important. So, you know, again, we're
42:17
getting we need to be now This was announced y'all know me and
42:23
Brian's creative aspirations kind of went crazy.
42:26
And we were going back and forth.
42:29
Like how would we set this up? If this was Brian and Curtis is
42:34
brainchild, how would we set this up?
42:38
And I told Brian, the one piece I want.
42:42
Is I want essentially a relationship staff, client
42:46
manager staff. He's a recruit manager staff and
42:51
these people are not necessarily worried about the game though.
42:57
They worried about every other aspect of that kid's life,
43:00
they're worried about how they're doing in school, you
43:02
want to get to know the parents, the siblings, the aunts, the
43:06
uncles, the trainer's where they, you know, what are their
43:10
interests? What do they like to eat?
43:12
What's going to be their major? I want a division like that.
43:17
So when a four-star recruit out of the beach is coming up for a
43:23
visit, there's someone who knows that kid's life in and out and
43:28
can give Cliff Notes versions to Heather, his primary coaching
43:32
recruiter. He's you want the person that's
43:35
assigned to that recruit when they walk off the bus on
43:38
Saturday? Telling them man.
43:41
Y'all kick the shit out of Bayside like yeah.
43:45
Like you want them to know what's important to them.
43:50
Know what buttons to press and understand that, which aspects
43:56
of the recruiting process are important to them and who in
44:00
their sphere of influence is important to them and key to
44:03
their decision-making process solutely.
44:10
Now, Brian, you've obviously had another side you want.
44:15
Yeah, I want I want, I want guys that are dedicated to looking at
44:19
the, the game tape, the football stuff.
44:23
The the stuff I like the sitting in front of a video screen for
44:29
four hours and hours and then Pat filtering that information
44:33
and passing it on the coaches. So they can better evaluate the
44:38
talent that's coming in. In watching as much Camp tape as
44:42
you can watching as much your game tape in Season watching
44:46
anything, you can get your hands on practice tape from the high
44:49
school, practice tape from the seven-on-seven like anything
44:53
that you can grab and watch and see the intricacies of a
44:58
recruits game. So that not only is the coach
45:02
able to say, yeah this guy's a scheme fit or this guy's a skill
45:06
fit but also know so they can start getting Their minds
45:10
turning. Once I get this guy in, what can
45:13
I do with him? Because I know his skills that I
45:15
understand his skills at a deep level setting them up for a good
45:21
experience. Once they're on campus, once
45:24
they're in practice, once they're in the weight room, once
45:26
they're in the conditioning room, all of that stuff is
45:30
important. It's true and like in Brian
45:35
mentioned this you but like, the way I see this is you're going
45:38
to have. Obviously you're going to have
45:40
your lower level. Like to me group managers you're
45:45
recruiting analyst your game analyst to me, you would have a
45:50
director, you setting the big vision and then to like
45:56
co-directors or operations managers for each side.
46:00
And they're going to do partially, do the rolls, but
46:03
they're also setting the expectations.
46:06
It's a hierarchy, it has to be. And I don't think having just
46:09
one primary director of recruiting give everybody their
46:14
Direction. I don't think that's the way to
46:16
go. We'll see.
46:21
LeBron, let's move on obviously, recruiting important.
46:24
I'm interested to see the number of recruiting positions that we
46:27
can count a year from now on the website.
46:31
Mark that it's go back and do it.
46:33
But Brian, what it? What a deal, wu-tang's and song.
46:38
Say Cash rules, everything around me.
46:42
Dolla, dolla bills. Y'all the assistant coaching
46:47
staff Cool. Is going to be in the course of
46:53
a six-year span going up over 10 million dollars.
46:58
And some people will say, well, who gives you shit, you know,
47:02
there's other people that can pay them.
47:05
Well, here's the thing. About coaches, sometimes get
47:08
comfortable, like all of us. if you have a shooting star who is
47:14
killing it, not only on the recruiting Trail, but
47:17
potentially also as a positional coach Where it felt like the
47:22
last five or six years, you know, I always felt like, you
47:26
know, there's certain times people leave, you got this kind
47:29
of money and strokes check. Give raises when they're needed.
47:34
If you need to move on from a guy, you can afford to bring in
47:37
a top-flight candidate to fill the role.
47:41
You can finally play. Pay your offensive and defensive
47:44
coordinators top-level money. You can because you can feel
47:49
comfortable going to a million dollars for a coordinator.
47:52
If you've got the flexibility to still be above 250 for pretty
47:57
much every position coach and, you know, average in the 100
48:01
range per position coach. And that's what this budget is
48:04
going to afford, and that's going to be huge.
48:07
That's going to be very huge. And that that to me other than
48:10
the recruiting is, you know. They said there's not a
48:13
hierarchy here. I absolutely believe top to
48:16
bottom. This is the where they want to
48:19
focus first. If the money's there they I
48:22
think they're going to increment all aspects of this in terms of
48:26
their rollout, whether its facilities, which you haven't
48:28
gotten to yet the other aspects. But but you know, if you're
48:33
putting chips in a bucket, they're putting two or three
48:36
chips in the first two or three buckets, when they're putting
48:39
one or two in the last two that's just all the way I'm
48:43
seeing it. You damn right.
48:45
Um and you know think about the assistant pool and think of it
48:51
those out there. Think of it this way.
48:55
We've been on record saying, we don't feel great about this
48:58
upcoming season, just don't hope for wrong, but we hope we're
49:02
wrong. We hope we are proved wrong at
49:04
the end of the year. But now with this type of
49:07
assistant, coaches budget, when you go out and pay, we're
49:11
clearly paying top dollar for their head coach.
49:14
Yep, I can highest paid in the ACC.
49:17
I think he is a top 20. Paid head coach at have to go.
49:19
Look if not, he's borderline in it.
49:22
I want to save 16. But I could be wrong with that
49:26
but I think it's top 20 so he's not getting Global money.
49:30
We know we can pay what it means is if we do have that bad season
49:35
and we do have to terminate the current head coach.
49:40
When you go out and go look for that next head, coach, your lane
49:46
to say. Whatever you want for your
49:48
assistant coaches, we're going to be able to get it done and
49:53
with the recruiting staff, however, you want this built-in
49:55
looking, we're going to be able to get it done.
50:00
And you're talking about opening up candidacy of maybe.
50:04
We'll here's the three or four guys were looking at to say.
50:06
Listen, we can look at a lot of different potential head coaches
50:11
and they can look at the absolute pipe dollar assistance.
50:21
I Braun the other one, the pillar number three which isn't
50:28
trailing too far behind if the first two guys.
50:30
Three drops. Three coins in the bucket.
50:32
This one's probably getting too, but the football, operation
50:36
staff. Which Brian kind of sits there
50:39
and says, where was this 20 years ago?
50:42
When I graduated college? But if you're talking again,
51:10
it's 5 million, I'm sure there's a small budget there.
51:13
Again, you're talking about it getting upper close to a million
51:17
dollars a year. It's going to be big and I know
51:22
we talked about it a little bit on our quick hit.
51:24
But you know what these essentially are.
51:27
He's like you got quality control on on the lower end
51:31
that's usually going to be the younger guys that you're
51:33
bringing in and then you've got the offensive and defensive and
51:38
special teams analyst roles that are usually for the more
51:40
veteran, either former coaches or guys that have been in those
51:45
systems for a long time, that have seen how the good programs
51:49
Work have seen things top to bottom and can can kind of catch
51:52
those blind spots that coaches, may be missing whether it's at
51:56
practice or whether it's things going on behind the scenes.
52:00
So I think all of that is important having those more
52:04
youthful, guys, learning the ropes.
52:07
But also making sure that if things are running the way they
52:10
need to from a quality standpoint and then also the
52:13
analyst making sure that Everything's going smooth from a
52:19
practice perspective from a coach's prep perspective.
52:23
I know that Jerry kill. Did a lot of that when he was
52:27
here we need like two or three of those guys.
52:30
On each side of the ball, not just one or two in the whole
52:37
program and this type of budget you can do that.
52:41
Yeah. I mean you're talking about when
52:44
you getting close to probably probably close to them.
52:46
In and you don't, let's get a couple guys on each side of the
52:51
ball and maybe one other analysts to either cover special
52:54
teams or just kind of be a catch-all.
52:57
Yeah. You could probably have five big
52:59
big guys probably making anywhere I'd say 90 thousand two
53:04
hundred fifty thousand two based on their resume and then you
53:07
talk about the what you saw at the Quality Control guys guys
53:10
who are fresh who are trying to get their first start in the
53:12
business and giving them a reasonable salary and to come To
53:16
your program. You know, I'm interested to see
53:20
what both through this, and the recruiting will do to the ga
53:23
rolls because now our they're still going to be GA rolls or is
53:29
it more? I think they'll be GA roles but
53:31
they're not going to be essentially quasi, assistant
53:35
coaches anymore. I mean, so many of those roles
53:39
have become. All right.
53:42
Well if you're a ga you're almost like assistant position
53:46
Coach in training, that's more or less what it's been.
53:51
And I think that's going to turn into more of a traditional GA
53:56
roll, kind of prepping you for your first step into either.
54:02
The quality control role or a position coach role.
54:05
Whatever comes available based on your skill set and what you?
54:10
What you bring to the table. Yep.
54:13
All right, the fourth pillar was essentially Player Development
54:17
at two million. Something that sounded really
54:19
emphasized. It caught my ear was essentially
54:22
getting these guys prepared for Life After Football.
54:26
Life After College and and I think it's I think it's such a
54:33
good thing when you think about it because Brian you were an
54:37
athlete in college even though it was D3, you guys had
54:42
mandatory study. Hall's, you had to keep certain
54:44
gpas you had. I'm pretty sure you had some
54:47
tutors if you need it. You have people on you all the
54:51
time, the say we're going to take that guy, you know who I
54:57
mean? He's busting his ass, you know,
54:59
getting up at 4:30 probably, you know, going training knows.
55:03
Here's what he's got to be his meals, taking them out of that
55:05
element and just put him into the real world.
55:07
That to me. I can see that as a culture
55:09
shock. Absolutely it absolutely man for
55:13
sure. And and if you're talking about
55:16
getting these guys prep for life, after it's such a good
55:20
thing and I'm sure it's going to be so much more about it in.
55:23
You're already here in the name, Sam Stewart a lot, I know she
55:26
doing stuff with alumni, I'm not sure if she's going to be
55:29
involved with this directly, I'd have to look up her title.
55:32
But what's your, what's your biggest?
55:35
Take on this brand. Yeah, sofu called it out
55:39
directly and mention Sam Stewart by name.
55:42
Apparently, she's been absolutely killing it since
55:44
getting to Blacksburg, so that's awesome.
55:48
And he emphasized that as being. Probably the thing he wants to
55:51
grow the most, in terms of the impact on the players, and he
55:57
kind of described it as like, not academics and not Athletics,
56:02
but everything in between that these student athletes deal with
56:07
As being both players while they're at the University and
56:10
then kind of what happens in that life after realm.
56:13
So getting that develop, I think is going to be really, really
56:16
great. And I think that's, you know,
56:20
quality of life for players is important and that that stuff
56:24
like that can keep players from entering the transfer portal,
56:28
because not everything is just about playing time and not
56:31
everything is just about, oh, well, I'm far from home, like,
56:35
sometimes it's other stuff. Times.
56:37
It's those little things that may not may be falling through
56:41
the cracks. And this is I think the overall
56:44
thing here with with, with point three and four, is that a lot of
56:50
this is taking away the blind spots.
56:54
I feel like the quality and the analysts take away the blind
56:56
spots for the coaches. And I think this also fills in
57:01
some of the blind spots of the coaches have, in terms of how
57:04
the players feel, how the players are.
57:07
Are doing outside of the classroom and outside of the
57:11
locker room and outside of the stadium.
57:14
And I think that'll that'll help things going forward for that
57:16
player quality of life. Absolutely.
57:20
And to me, the first four pillars, you got my blind spot
57:23
with coaches. What this is doing for the
57:25
coaches, obviously, is giving them more money.
57:28
The other three are giving them, your job is to coach football.
57:34
Is your job to be involved in the players.
57:35
Like? Hell, yeah.
57:37
But can you see every single aspect of their life before they
57:40
get here or while they're here? No, you can't.
57:43
They're filling in that Gap. So, the coaches can go out and
57:46
coach, and know, and having this Player Development type stuff.
57:50
Hey listen, he's had some rough classes lately and keep that in
57:54
my mind if I see him unfocused. Yeah, I mean, the best coach in
57:59
the world. Kill me that guy 285 players all
58:06
the time. Nope, the more support you can
58:09
have in that area, the better. It's true.
58:15
Very true. And again what that helps them
58:18
is I'd say this produce, not worrying less about that more
58:24
time in the film room, more time, prepping.
58:27
More time for jet sweeps. The short side of the field.
58:32
Ordinal, 14, quarterback, power on Third, and 20, because those
58:41
are like those plays. Now, if I see them after
58:43
everything of this is implementing the next year and
58:45
we still have the current coaching staff.
58:47
It's like, well, at least you thought more about it this time,
58:51
more about it. In the next few years.
59:19
Whether it be the stadium itself, Beamer born, they're
59:22
going to need upgrades simple as that.
59:25
And To go ahead and say, well, we're going to keep eight
59:27
million over here. In case, we need it right now
59:31
who's to say that this type fundraising effort, Doesn't
59:36
generate more money than it needs.
59:39
You know, then they well we do need some to update that but we
59:45
got an extra 3 million so we can go ahead and move this over to
59:50
the recruiting and the assistant coaches into the analytical
59:54
budget into the Player. Development budget to get more
59:58
people to help those guys out. So, what I think it's good that
1:00:02
they're putting in here because Now, it's not.
1:00:07
Completely on. The big donors to come through
1:00:12
for some of these projects you can incrementally build up each
1:00:17
year, so you're saying, all right, well, we're increasing a
1:00:20
little bit here, that's earmarked for facilities.
1:00:22
And then as you're getting there, obviously facilities are
1:00:25
not something that Happened right all the time, right?
1:00:29
It's not the building is ongoing, but the fundraising
1:00:33
needs to be ongoing for whenever we're ready to put those capital
1:00:38
projects into motion. And I think this helps towards
1:00:42
that. We're if we see we're falling
1:00:44
behind in an area we can actually move on it instead of
1:00:47
having to say, all right. Well let's save another few
1:00:50
years and hopefully a big donor will come through and we might
1:00:53
be able to do this in five years that five years becomes Maybe
1:00:57
Two or three years now because you plan for it a little bit
1:01:00
better, you've taken that into account as you're going along.
1:01:05
Then. It's very true and you know, and
1:01:09
that's kind of the way this to me is set up is they're looking
1:01:12
to the Future. They're not, they're changing in
1:01:15
a way the way they look at fundraising for the Apple
1:01:19
apartment, and it's going to go back to the way, the Hokie Club
1:01:25
has grown in the last five or six years and that's still part
1:01:29
of it. The Hokey drive for 25 is still
1:01:32
a big part of this initiative. But by saying this, I think what
1:01:38
it's saying to people, this is how we're investing your money
1:01:41
in. This is our goal, we're no
1:01:43
longer trying to do what, what did we're not trying to be
1:01:48
contenders. We are trying to be Champions
1:01:54
and that was a in. You kind of heard him with
1:01:58
Force. Like the expectations are no
1:02:00
longer we're not in, it's almost any we're not fucking around in
1:02:03
any sporting. We expect to be good.
1:02:07
We expect to be competing. The expectation is to be eating
1:02:11
for that conference title in every sport.
1:02:14
Every year we're not going to have a down Year, we're not
1:02:18
going to have a program that's out of competition.
1:02:21
We're going to be there every year and I mean I think that
1:02:24
that's a great vision and I like that and I like that we're
1:02:28
approaching this from, we're going to set the standard We're
1:02:33
going to set the standard of what a good program looks like
1:02:37
in the ACC. And that's a big step forward
1:02:41
for this because I feel like it's kind of been the way it's
1:02:46
been before, it's kind of been like the difference between Like
1:02:52
stepping up or doing box jumps like so instead of gradually
1:02:57
will like B flat for several years then were like oh we got
1:03:01
to catch up and then flat fold over use.
1:03:03
Oh we got to catch up a little bit.
1:03:05
We're not doing that anymore. There's a climb now and there's
1:03:09
there's an Aiming point and I feel like that having that
1:03:11
aiming point for the program is going to be good.
1:03:15
Regardless of who's the coach in a couple years we're setting up
1:03:20
whoever Is leading these individual teams for Success.
1:03:27
It's very good man. I'm crying made.
1:03:30
You put your Peter Griffin hat on because there was something
1:03:33
done during the presentation, just go ahead and even
1:03:41
gentlemen, Ron Ziegler. Why why we cut the Q&A, why we
1:03:48
got the live feed for the Q&A? You already got the laugh feet
1:03:52
set up. It's already there.
1:03:56
Just leave it on and we listen and we hear it in real time.
1:04:01
And you know what, you're not shortchanging the journalists
1:04:06
there because I'll here and I'll still go out there and read what
1:04:11
my name is Oleg. Writes about it or what David
1:04:14
teal writes about, I'm still going to do that.
1:04:16
Well, it's not stopping me from digesting their content.
1:04:20
It's not stopping me from enjoying what you're putting
1:04:24
out. There.
1:04:24
I will, we watch the Q&A. We jumped on together, and
1:04:29
watched it. And we also read everything that
1:04:33
was written about it. Whether on Twitter or in local
1:04:37
wild occasions about the Reach For Excellence campaign.
1:04:41
We will digest it. Don't hide it from us,
1:04:44
especially when we see when we watch the both of us, we watch
1:04:48
the retracts on presentation live.
1:04:51
And then today was today, right? All right old, you know, you've
1:04:58
been a weak man, it's been a week.
1:05:00
Every day feels like to, but we're sitting here watching it
1:05:05
and we pause and say, well, how the bleep did you just keep the
1:05:08
damn thing going? You're using the same camera
1:05:11
angles. You're not showing the press and
1:05:14
ignore the crowd. You're literally showing this or
1:05:17
it off shot. When someone's asking the
1:05:19
question. You're not doing anything
1:05:20
different. Aunt.
1:05:22
It's dumb. It's just dumb.
1:05:26
So stop it. Stop it.
1:05:30
There is officially now, you know, Brian, we were nice few
1:05:33
weeks ago about, we understand if you can't live streaming but
1:05:36
tell us what it is. And guess what?
1:05:37
They told us when the Fuente thing was, which is great for us
1:05:40
because at 10:00 we got to watch it or you know Twitter follow
1:05:43
the interview. Didn't watch that one folks.
1:05:45
Life's crazy but You've now shown us.
1:05:50
It's really not that hard to do a live stream so you have no
1:05:54
more excuses. You know who you are.
1:05:58
You know who you are and much like his Twitter post, he timed
1:06:03
the release of the live stream because it ran about 2/3 of the
1:06:10
way from into Mike do Sollux. First question.
1:06:13
And then the live stream, Of course you did.
1:06:19
All right, Brian, anything breaking on the Twitter sphere
1:06:24
or in general, by the way, we will not be here next week,
1:06:28
folks. We're going to be probably doing
1:06:30
it every couple weeks now. But next week is the draft best
1:06:36
of luck to all of the Hokies in The graft.
1:06:40
Brian's Crossing his fingers that certain guy slips down the
1:06:45
board little bit for the The officer now officially because
1:06:51
of you know, the small back surgery that came to follow yet,
1:06:56
I know that fingers crossed that he can slip out of the first
1:06:58
round and since we only essentially have about 75 roster
1:07:03
spot, who's me five roster spots for the Niners?
1:07:07
I'm really hoping that he slows far enough, we just take some
1:07:10
capital and go up and get him. Okay, I'm while we probably
1:07:17
could use an extra cornerback. I don't think he's the best
1:07:20
scheme fit for the system that we have.
1:07:23
So I'm not hoping the same thing in general.
1:07:27
I hope he makes it in the first round just because that's good
1:07:31
for the program and good for him obviously because that means
1:07:35
more money which is never a bad thing especially when it comes
1:07:39
to football players on their first contract.
1:07:41
So, Hope that's good for him. I am hoping because the money is
1:07:47
not that big of a difference between where he's projected and
1:07:50
where we are. That Christian Dara saw does
1:07:55
sink to the low 20s, and we can scoop him up there because we
1:07:59
need a tackle, whether we end up slugging him in right there at
1:08:03
left or doing some some switching and put him in it,
1:08:06
right. I think he's going to be good.
1:08:08
I'd be happy with him on either side of the line there.
1:08:11
So yeah, it's me. Very true lady.
1:08:15
Yeah, I'm like, you know, depending on what happens at 3
1:08:23
You might be, you might want to drive over here.
1:08:26
I'm going to go on the curve of your house, crying.
1:08:35
I'll bring liquor. Hi, fap to my, I'll swear, as
1:08:42
y'all know, I'm a 49ers fan and all I keep hearing is Mac Jones,
1:08:45
Mac Jones. He's to fit.
1:08:47
He's to fit and it's like this kid's.
1:08:49
Got my body. Here's my shirt off right now.
1:08:56
You probably couldn't tell the difference.
1:08:58
And they're talking about public.
1:09:00
Listen. We were at 12 and we took him, I
1:09:03
have no issue. You do not trade that much draft
1:09:07
Capital to get at what is best a Kirk Cousins at best?
1:09:13
At is his ceiling. His floor, restore any backup
1:09:19
player, any backup quarterback in the league and do we need to
1:09:23
remind, folks? Worker cousin was taken.
1:09:26
Even if you want to argue Kirk Cousins was taken too low.
1:09:29
He was still taking well past pick number three.
1:09:35
Other issue is With mac and this is me.
1:09:41
I don't know what he is. A lot of people say, oh, he's a
1:09:43
great processor, it's really easy to process when no one's at
1:09:47
your feet. And when your guys are getting
1:09:49
wide open, it's really easy to process.
1:09:53
And so, he's essentially going to be playing with what this
1:09:57
year is probably going to be four guys taken in the first two
1:09:59
rounds to offensive actually 50. I'm sorry.
1:10:02
I missed an extra player there. How could I?
1:10:05
He's literally was playing with five.
1:10:09
Sensual day, 1464 off the board. Yeah, it's insane and they were
1:10:16
all positions that directly affected him.
1:10:20
Throughout the running back, a left tackle and an interior
1:10:23
offensive lineman. so think of it like this, what he was doing
1:10:28
at Bama is like, if you took If you took the Top Flight players
1:10:36
of an NFL offense and they got to go against the scout team all
1:10:42
the time. Or against the rookies on
1:10:46
defense all the time. Like, you're taking these
1:10:50
high-level players and going against guys that are either
1:10:54
inexperience, not used to going up against this level of talent
1:10:58
or just not quite atletic enough.
1:11:02
And that's, that's what Bama was doing against pretty much every
1:11:06
piece of competition. And all that Jones had to do was
1:11:09
like, oh, he's open and I'm not under selling the processing.
1:11:14
I'm not under selling the Reeds that he was making, but I am
1:11:17
saying that. It's a hell of a lot easier to
1:11:20
make reads fast when guys get open.
1:11:23
It's true and my my other word with him.
1:11:27
He doesn't he has an average or slightly above average.
1:11:31
Arm his athleticism. Isn't there?
1:11:34
There's people here, are like a 47.
1:11:37
Do he friend like or not? I've seen that kid run, man.
1:11:40
Any 40 and at least a tenth to it.
1:11:43
This year at least certain situations.
1:11:46
You had two tenths. But everybody keeps saying
1:11:52
schemes He's skiing fit and I'm really hoping it's one of the
1:11:56
other three quarterbacks because, you know, everybody's
1:12:04
like well he could be braiding. This is sorry.
1:12:10
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh that out loud.
1:12:14
Let me dig this year. How many number one receivers
1:12:21
were on that team like true? Like any other team they have
1:12:23
been a number one. Receiver three Mike Evans.
1:12:30
Chris Coghlan. How many upper left one tight
1:12:32
ends that he have? That would have been starters on
1:12:35
any other team to re-create OJ Howard.
1:12:41
Yeah, I always forget OJ Howard. How many potential starting
1:12:46
running backs? Did he have on the team this
1:12:48
year? At least 23 23 by the end of the
1:12:53
year, well, the mid great offensive lines now, A ranked
1:13:00
Fifth and they were the fifth run best line of the league.
1:13:07
It's where the defense ranked top 10 6.
1:13:13
He's like, Tom Brady. Do you know how tough it is?
1:13:17
To get the amount of talent I run?
1:13:21
You got anything else tonight? Big guy.
1:13:23
I'm good, buddy, I'm good. We got our NFL dose in there.
1:13:26
We had to because we're not what we might be Skyping or on
1:13:30
Discord. Layer may be on Thursday, so you
1:13:33
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1:13:37
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