Latest / The Christian Reeve Podcast / Sergio Halabi | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #117 |

Transcript

Sergio Halabi | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #117 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

• 0:00
  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian.
• 0:03
  We podcast, today's guest is a business, owner, brand manager
• 0:06
  and podcast hailing, all the way from Lebanon.
• 0:09
  His name is Sergio hella be welcome to the show.
• 0:13
  Hey, dude. Hi Chris, how are you?
• 0:16
  Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.
• 0:18
  It's a pleasure. It's always good to have a
• 0:19
  fellow podcaster on the show. I've got plenty of questions to
• 0:22
  ask you, so I'm just going to jump straight into this.
• 0:24
  Really your the host of the Paradigm Shift podcast for those
• 0:28
  watching the video version of this podcast.
• 0:30
  We can see a big sort of graphic that you've got.
• 0:33
  There is that it like a canvas or what what is it looks like it
• 0:36
  is it is like it's like a canvas and I printed this on this
• 0:41
  printed a yeah it's very, very professional, very envious.
• 0:48
  I kind of got a Vibe for what you're talking about with the
• 0:51
  podcast, but I like to let my guests kind of say in their own
• 0:54
  words. So what exactly can you tell us
• 0:57
  about this podcast? What is the Paradigm Shift
• 0:59
  about? Yeah, so basically, my whole, I
• 1:04
  feel like my whole purpose in life, like something I've always
• 1:07
  yearned for and I always found very interesting is knowledge
• 1:10
  and seeking of truth, no matter what it is, and just The idea to
• 1:15
  ask questions that's basically even if the answer tends to be
• 1:19
  exactly what you already know. But as long as you ask the
• 1:22
  question or ask new questions or someone tells you something and
• 1:26
  you go like mmm never thought of that before, you know that to me
• 1:30
  is like you know, it's such a good feeling and when I decided
• 1:35
  to start my podcast, that was the aim basically just exploring
• 1:40
  different ideas, the exploring old thoughts and What people
• 1:45
  thought true at the time? What we could go back to and
• 1:48
  just you know, asking ourselves new questions seeing if a new
• 1:52
  answer comes up and then just go ahead and see what comes up from
• 1:56
  that. Like I always like to my
• 1:58
  favorite thing, my favorite thing whether it's on the
• 2:01
  podcast or that comment on my Instagram page or anything when
• 2:04
  someone says I never thought of that, you know.
• 2:07
  That alone is like yep. You just gave me everything I
• 2:10
  need. So that's all I want.
• 2:12
  I totally agree with you. I think that For me in my own
• 2:17
  life. Same thing, you know this your
• 2:19
  knowledge I think when you make that realization that, you know,
• 2:25
  you will never know, enough doesn't matter how intelligent
• 2:28
  you become, even if you become the absolute Master, a
• 2:31
  particular field, there's always something new to learn.
• 2:34
  There's always things to be questioned.
• 2:35
  So yeah, totally agree with that.
• 2:38
  It's still it actually applies to that.
• 2:40
  Like there's this joke, where the more, you know, the more,
• 2:42
  you know you don't know, right? Yeah.
• 2:45
  The morgue I get into deeper into any Rabbit Hole.
• 2:48
  I got like they still so much more and it just never ends but
• 2:52
  it's to me it's like the spice of life you know.
• 2:54
  That's that's why what's that fat?
• 2:56
  That famous quote possibly as Einstein but someone said that
• 3:03
  Knowledge is an inconvenience blanket, you know, like them as
• 3:09
  in. Yeah, the more, you know them,
• 3:11
  the more it's kind of like a it's just painful that's also
• 3:16
  taken into that. That's where that ignorance is
• 3:18
  bliss. Kind of mindset comes from and
• 3:21
  I've seen some of the happiest people I've ever met in my life.
• 3:24
  Exactly. Because it's like, it's and it
• 3:34
  never leaves you at like, makes you question.
• 3:36
  So many things all the time, you know, it's kind of like this,
• 3:40
  can I just shut my brain down for 5 seconds?
• 3:42
  And not think about everything? Okay, I got it.
• 3:45
  Would you rather all that topic? Then?
• 3:46
  So, would you rather your ignorant to everything?
• 3:51
  And you just, you don't know the truth.
• 3:53
  You know, you're just ignorant and you live a very, very
• 3:55
  simple, simple life. And, you know, nothing.
• 3:57
  So basically just a just an idiot and there's nothing wrong
• 4:00
  with being an idiot. I'm just saying that, you know,
• 4:01
  it's Yeah, right, or you know everything or know a lot but now
• 4:10
  you've got all the weight of the problems of having that
• 4:12
  knowledge and what comes associated with that and the
• 4:15
  responsibility as well. I'll choose the weight and the
• 4:18
  responsibility every day, like, I like, it just gives me so much
• 4:22
  gratification. I can't, I can't think of low.
• 4:26
  I sometimes I wish you'd just because it's in the moment.
• 4:30
  I need to, you know, relax or come.
• 4:32
  But most of the time. It's just like, yeah, I just
• 4:35
  need more of this. I think it's becoming quite an
• 4:38
  addiction. Like it's it fits something into
• 4:41
  me. I don't, I can't explain it now.
• 4:43
  I know what you mean. Knowledge is addictive.
• 4:46
  I found myself kind of learning about so many different fields
• 4:49
  some field. I never thought I would become
• 4:51
  knowledge about but I suppose through this podcast, especially
• 4:55
  after a lot of research in definitely guest.
• 4:57
  So I end up sometimes I read up on things so I would then better
• 5:00
  understand the top. Epics then I know what questions
• 5:03
  to ask as a result of that, sometimes you have to do that
• 5:07
  but I do find myself kind of having more intellectual
• 5:10
  interest in conversations with people now.
• 5:12
  But then you often find out you take things like I don't know
• 5:16
  conspiracy theories, politics Finance World issues, whatever
• 5:20
  the more and more and more, you know the more you just kind of
• 5:23
  sit there sometimes going oh no the world is is screwed.
• 5:27
  Oh yeah. Made me go like, oh, I wish, I
• 5:34
  didn't know this. You know what I mean?
• 5:35
  Like, like I was like, in that case, I was happy ignorant.
• 5:39
  But like, I got this book by John Perkins confessions of an
• 5:43
  economic Hitman and like it should, I'm like, I'm just a
• 5:47
  pawn. I'm just, I'm worthless, and
• 5:50
  this political Financial world, I'm nothing, you know, so that
• 5:53
  kind of, but I try to kind of Center or guide myself into
• 5:58
  specific topics, like, for me, the topics that I discussed in
• 6:01
  my own, On my own podcasts. It's simple like everything
• 6:07
  related to you know, ancient civilization in history.
• 6:10
  Some conspiracy theories here and there some philosophical
• 6:13
  ideas like I try to stay away from the dirty side of the world
• 6:18
  like when it comes to politics when it comes to, like I said
• 6:22
  finances and all that it's just to me I admit that I'm not so
• 6:27
  knowledgeable in that nor would I actually want to do that to my
• 6:31
  I My whole stick is to just stay within what has always
• 6:38
  interested me ever, since I was a kid, like first time, I switch
• 6:41
  TV and Discovery Channel and I saw, you know, documentary about
• 6:45
  the pyramids and I was like, this is it, this is, this is
• 6:48
  everything I ever want to know, you know, everything ancient
• 6:50
  just throw my way. Well that's that's push into
• 6:53
  that bit more. So like what are some of the key
• 6:55
  topics that you discussion on the Paradigm Shift podcast?
• 6:58
  Let? Well, what are the main things
• 7:00
  like? Okay, if you had to sum it up,
• 7:02
  Let's say, you know, this is your advert space and you're
• 7:05
  just going to sum it up with a paragraph per se.
• 7:09
  What exact why, what? Why are people listening?
• 7:11
  What are they looking out for? What can they find each week?
• 7:14
  Well, it took me a while to kind of come up with the tagline
• 7:17
  actually that they use for my for my podcast and other stuff
• 7:20
  but it's it's just exploring truth through forgotten
• 7:24
  knowledge. Forgotten is he here?
• 7:26
  So so what I what I like to do is go back in time and see what
• 7:32
  what? Have people built on like, when
• 7:34
  we look at the first civilization, when we look at
• 7:36
  the first Trilogy, and the first time, anyone thought of anything
• 7:39
  that to me feels more authentic than anything we have going on
• 7:42
  right now because because that to me, it feels devout of any
• 7:47
  political gain or any personal. Its it was just there, you know,
• 7:50
  as an expression of the culture that that was at the time for
• 7:54
  the first cultural, let's say let's talk about Somalia.
• 7:57
  For example, in Mesopotamia, modern-day Iraq.
• 8:01
  You look at this. Civilization, that came from
• 8:03
  nowhere and it was the time where we moved from Humanity
• 8:08
  from being hunter-gatherers and just like walking all over the
• 8:11
  Earth and doing all that to become.
• 8:15
  We became settlers, we discovered agriculture, farming,
• 8:20
  and all that stuff. And to me that, that really
• 8:24
  asks, like it raises so many questions that no historian or
• 8:28
  an archaeologist. Or scientist has given me a and
• 8:32
  And so forth, you know, like the a a legitimate answer for I feel
• 8:36
  like there's something that is either forgotten.
• 8:40
  Like I said, or something that is being kept away from from
• 8:44
  from all of us now and that's where I like to delve into and
• 8:49
  ask new questions. Basically man, do I have
• 8:52
  questions for you on here? Wow.
• 8:54
  Okay yeah, I've wondered about the same things.
• 8:56
  Many times I do feel like there is this massive Gap because it's
• 9:00
  like, suddenly as you say, we go from hunter-gatherers or just
• 9:04
  hunters and then there's this big gap and then suddenly wear I
• 9:09
  guess you could sort of say civilized?
• 9:11
  Okay let's look at the word civilization really and
• 9:14
  truthfully. It generally refers to just like
• 9:16
  a community, you know, of people living together and they've
• 9:20
  agreed to live in a particular way, right?
• 9:24
  That's what we, you know and then there's of course when you
• 9:27
  spend loads of time like this say in the countryside and then
• 9:29
  you come back to like the city you say, oh, I'm back in
• 9:32
  Civilization and back where things are happening in such and
• 9:35
  it's like I wonder sometimes Ames because the human mind is
• 9:40
  an amazing thing. You know, I sometimes ideas can
• 9:43
  just come to us, you know, like I'm a creative person.
• 9:45
  So for instance, if I write a song, I get the feeling I get,
• 9:50
  you know, the idea comes to me, I see it as like, a gift from
• 9:53
  the universe and I just see myself more as a messenger than
• 9:56
  yeah, that's why I don't really take compliments from people
• 9:59
  because I believe that that doesn't come from me.
• 10:03
  I'm more just taking, what is being given to me and then
• 10:07
  turning it into something. Which is then there's actually a
• 10:10
  name for that. I don't know if you're familiar
• 10:12
  it's called the field. Have you ever heard of it?
• 10:14
  Nobody stumble their head that I thought you'd be interested.
• 10:18
  The field is this a theoretical plane?
• 10:21
  Basically of existence if you want to work all ideas flow and
• 10:27
  they kind of overlap sometimes over like let's say specific
• 10:30
  people or something and that's when you can like grab an idea
• 10:33
  and I don't know if you've ever noticed it, but it feels like
• 10:37
  when someone gets an idea. Dia like at the same time you
• 10:40
  know, like thousand books and at the same time, get the same
• 10:43
  idea. I don't know if you experience
• 10:45
  it that. Like I also have this, I noticed
• 10:48
  it because I own a coffee shop and at like it's so weird
• 10:53
  because sometimes when I'm sitting there and I see people
• 10:56
  come in, it feels like today, everyone wants to drink this
• 11:00
  specific drink, it's insane. Like it's like they it's not
• 11:04
  play seeing each other because they not at the same time but
• 11:08
  Out of nowhere. It feels like why is everyone
• 11:11
  suddenly interested in this specific thing or topic or
• 11:14
  whatever? And then the next day comes and
• 11:16
  something else happens. I actually imagine, like,
• 11:18
  there's something floating above, it's really weird.
• 11:22
  There's a person that I follow on Tick Tock and she's into,
• 11:27
  she's like, a I guess I guess a which I don't know, she's into
• 11:31
  like astrology and things like that and fair enough, if you're
• 11:34
  not into that stuff I get it me personally I have an open mind
• 11:38
  to things I've lived in Europe. I've lived abroad, I've kind of
• 11:41
  seen different ways of life met, lots of people from different
• 11:44
  walks of life. So my mind is very open to all
• 11:46
  the possibilities. So I'm open to it and she often
• 11:50
  talks about this thing that happens several times a year
• 11:54
  called. I think it's Mercury in
• 11:56
  retrograde, which is basically yeah, you know, to something.
• 11:59
  Coming up. It's like the idea that the
• 12:02
  planets when they align in a certain way can affect us and
• 12:06
  there's different things. You know, for instance there's
• 12:08
  there's arguments that the moon has an effect on our on the way
• 12:12
  we behave. So if there's a full moon,
• 12:14
  there's likely to be more crime or party, then we'll more and
• 12:18
  makes you feel something. And then you kind of get angry
• 12:21
  the few days before the new more, and I've heard of all of
• 12:23
  that. Yeah, but here's the thing.
• 12:26
  It can't be a coincidence because every time that she
• 12:28
  indicates Old Mercury is in retrograde right now.
• 12:31
  So you might be feeling this this, this this and this I kid
• 12:34
  you not every time it happens things.
• 12:36
  No, seriously things. Start going bad.
• 12:39
  The internet stops working. Like, everywhere in the world as
• 12:42
  well. Yeah, it's just a very strange
• 12:47
  phenomenon and it makes you wonder The end of the day we get
• 12:52
  told this is the frames of the existing to these things are
• 12:55
  ridiculous. This is ridiculous.
• 12:57
  I remember when I first learned about tarot and readings and
• 13:04
  stuff like that, I always I grew up thinking oh it's just BS, you
• 13:08
  know, because of America because there are charlatans in America
• 13:11
  that they do things like you know that you get brought into
• 13:14
  the work of the devil. Those people in America that
• 13:21
  like, they make it into a farce and they bring 50 people into a
• 13:24
  room. Let's say, oh my God.
• 13:26
  Yes, yeah. I hate to think they get them to
• 13:28
  fill out a questionnaire before they come in, and they sit down
• 13:31
  and they go, your grandfather's name.
• 13:35
  Exactly. Andrew.
• 13:36
  And it's like, oh my God. Yeah.
• 13:40
  Oh my God, your grandpa's name. Like he says, does that mean
• 13:46
  anything to you? And she goes like my sister's
• 13:48
  brother. Someone who's like, you know,
• 13:51
  like, but like the British don't have that information before
• 13:54
  they walk in. So like yeah, but obviously
• 13:56
  that's six inches into society and it you know it makes you
• 14:00
  think that okay, for the most part it's BS.
• 14:02
  But then I remember when I say living in Europe and I got
• 14:06
  reading, I've never told anyone on this podcast this before, but
• 14:08
  here we go. Here's a, here's a new thing, I
• 14:11
  had readings over there and I was open to it, but I was very
• 14:14
  skeptical because, you know, I grew up in a very scientific
• 14:17
  mind of always been kind of like a Somewhere between an agnostic
• 14:22
  atheist. Again, I'm more like spiritual
• 14:24
  these days, but my mind is open. Yeah, I may even looking into
• 14:27
  religions now and taking bits and pieces and kind of looking
• 14:30
  at everything and see what I can learn.
• 14:32
  Because I think there's always just it's better to just learn
• 14:35
  as much as you can. Of course, of course.
• 14:37
  But when I was open to these these tarot readings and
• 14:40
  spirituality in Europe, there were certain instances where I
• 14:44
  had readings where it was absolutely impossible.
• 14:49
  Yeah. Them to have.
• 14:49
  The information that they had or to understand what I was
• 14:52
  thinking in that moment is impossible.
• 14:56
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 14:57
  Because I hadn't told them anything I hadn't told anyone in
• 15:00
  the room, or anyone associated with them, anything they just
• 15:03
  knew and it freaked me out. Yeah, but it also made me think
• 15:09
  I think that's a lot about being.
• 15:10
  Yeah, a human being that we do not understand.
• 15:12
  As you say, these planes of existence that are out there.
• 15:15
  These Des Des Des think that just going back to what you're
• 15:19
  saying about the ideas concept. You know, everyone having the
• 15:21
  same idea like whenever I create videos on on platforms like
• 15:27
  Tick-Tock. I do like these little shorts,
• 15:29
  these little funny skits, whatever, right?
• 15:31
  I know that like about a million other people in the world have
• 15:33
  had the same idea and I always find that interesting because
• 15:36
  it's exactly the same idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:39
  You know, it's the concept of an original idea.
• 15:43
  Quite frankly is impossible. I think what's happening.
• 15:46
  Is we get re-imaginings? We get weary.
• 15:50
  Tell the same stories again and again, and again.
• 15:54
  And again, and we relay that information to each other in
• 15:57
  different ways. And I think they're the only
• 15:58
  thing that really truthfully changes over time is
• 16:00
  communication. So if you look at the way,
• 16:03
  modern society is, now means, for instance, or a big thing and
• 16:07
  emoticons, we went back to the holographic Serie of.
• 16:12
  Yeah. Binds with like we can actually
• 16:14
  communicate with a me just now only.
• 16:17
  Yeah. Really?
• 16:19
  I imagine. Yeah, I mentioned but then they
• 16:20
  probably even had some form of meme.
• 16:23
  They probably made ya funny. Drawing know there's a.
• 16:26
  Get it by jokes. Yeah, yeah.
• 16:27
  Yeah. It's amazing how we have that as
• 16:31
  a species but you said something is interesting about originality
• 16:36
  and like there's the same but like nothing is new Under the
• 16:39
  Sun or something like that. And this is what Kind of drives
• 16:43
  me towards the study and researching of these ancient
• 16:46
  civilizations because it seems that out of nowhere.
• 16:50
  They created something that has never existed before and ever,
• 16:54
  since then, we have not been able to adapt duplicate
• 16:57
  something like this because everything we have done since
• 17:00
  then has been just an evolution of it.
• 17:03
  But there is this, like a point in time where something
• 17:07
  drastically happens. And it doesn't really align with
• 17:11
  what. Like, for example, you know how
• 17:12
  this Say, you can't imagine a new color, right?
• 17:15
  Look like if we physically can't imagine anything, we go through
• 17:18
  in our dreams or imagination is a build of several things that
• 17:23
  we have seen before or several ideas or thoughts that are
• 17:25
  coming together. So it's impossible for you to
• 17:29
  visualize something new. Even like for example when
• 17:32
  people because I've spoken about this in my on my podcast, about
• 17:36
  the near-death experiences and you have these people who expect
• 17:39
  to go through something, you know, for 45 minutes late.
• 17:42
  Officially dead. And they, when they come back,
• 17:45
  they say I've seen this and I've seen that and even they can't
• 17:49
  have works for what they've experienced they say, okay?
• 17:52
  So I'm going to try to explain it to you in the closest way
• 17:55
  possible, because there is no way for me to describe something
• 17:58
  like this. Now what that indicates to me is
• 18:02
  that like the first person who ever put a painting on a cave?
• 18:07
  For example, like the first one ever, how did that even happen?
• 18:12
  You know what I mean? Like you have created something
• 18:15
  that ever since that moment a million years ago till now we
• 18:19
  have simply tried to create and evolve and get better at but you
• 18:24
  were the first one to think. I'm just gonna express myself in
• 18:28
  a way. No one ever has expressed
• 18:29
  themselves before ever in history, right?
• 18:32
  And this jump that we had like they say Homo sapiens and the,
• 18:38
  the other family ancestors that we have near that long at all.
• 18:42
  As Homo erectus and all that was another one.
• 18:45
  Wasn't that there was three, there was her me sapiens.
• 18:48
  They are the toes. And then there's a third one
• 18:50
  that homo erectus possibly Europe and all over.
• 19:10
  And then basically the Modern Man.
• 19:13
  And we're was going to this like basically we have existed in
• 19:20
  that form for a long and 1.8 million years.
• 19:24
  That's the the lengths of all those and sisters living
• 19:27
  combined and until we will reach.
• 19:29
  And then they tell you that 10,000 years ago, all of a
• 19:33
  sudden they decide. Okay, let's just build cities
• 19:36
  and you know, Agriculture and and build monuments that till
• 19:40
  now we still don't know how they built.
• 19:42
  Like not only the the shift that they did a shifter to plug the
• 19:47
  shift that they did was Monumental that.
• 19:51
  It doesn't even aligned with the history that we are being
• 19:54
  taught, you know what I mean. So that puts a lot of questions
• 19:57
  and this is where I'm most interested in.
• 20:01
  Like a lot of people make fun of these ideas or yeah, like some
• 20:04
  people say, oh aliens built the pyramids really inside that and
• 20:07
  all that and these ancient astronaut theory is a no.
• 20:09
  But to me it's not so much about not knowing how These things
• 20:13
  were built. It's more about what these
• 20:15
  people were worshipping and how they describe things around
• 20:19
  them. That is the key to me, not in
• 20:22
  just The Monuments. They left behind which were
• 20:24
  incredibly amazing. And yeah, we tell now we stop.
• 20:28
  We have to only theories about how they were built, but just
• 20:31
  but when you look at their religions, you look at their
• 20:34
  mythologies and you you start to think about like when you just
• 20:38
  see them from a bit of a different point of view with the
• 20:40
  knowledge we have now over A science.
• 20:43
  And over other things, it really puts a huge question mark as to
• 20:47
  what these people were actually describing, you know what I
• 20:50
  mean? Like, like you have this this
• 20:54
  ancient Sanskrit, you know story that actually describes an
• 21:00
  atomic bomb. Like the way it describes, the
• 21:03
  vegetation dying from radiation, the way it talks about how its
• 21:09
  it has the power of a thousand suns exploding.
• 21:12
  Holding at the same time how it affected the world around it and
• 21:17
  how after that. Nothing grew for hundreds and
• 21:21
  hundreds of years. You go like how can a
• 21:24
  civilization, describe something?
• 21:26
  So accurately that we now know of this day and age, this is
• 21:32
  this is key his question for you relate to this because I've
• 21:36
  always been curious about this particularly when I look at
• 21:41
  civilizations like The Aztec sinkers Etc or the Egyptians
• 21:45
  even do you think it's likely or what are your thoughts on the
• 21:50
  concept that we have reached or even surpassed the level of
• 21:56
  intellect and technology that we currently have?
• 21:59
  But at some point for whatever reason, those civilizations were
• 22:04
  completely eradicated and hidden deliberately like buried and the
• 22:08
  knowledge of that buried. So like what I'm saying, but
• 22:11
  this debate is down to four. We won.
• 22:13
  We have got to the point that we are now or surpassed it, but for
• 22:18
  some reason, they decided to destroy that or we were wiped
• 22:21
  out or something and then we essentially rebuilt again.
• 22:24
  So basically, there's like stuff in history that's missing.
• 22:27
  What do you think about that? There's it's definitely.
• 22:30
  It's definitely the stuff that has been hidden.
• 22:32
  Not only we have because we are very technologically advanced at
• 22:37
  the moment, right? Like we're at the peak of
• 22:38
  humanity, know that, but we are not so much.
• 22:41
  So on a spiritual level. Evil, like, in terms of
• 22:44
  spirituality, these civilizations were much more
• 22:48
  advanced when you read the regulations, when you read.
• 22:55
  Trying to do exact understanding of of life and death and what
• 23:00
  comes after and all that it shows you that this has been
• 23:04
  they have they were much more advanced spiritually and
• 23:07
  mentally than we are now. So it does feel like at some
• 23:12
  point there has been a cover or like you said a reset button was
• 23:18
  clicked at the destruction of information which is Is key like
• 23:25
  information is how you advance there is literally no other way
• 23:29
  for any civilization or culture to advance other than knowledge
• 23:31
  knowledge is key. So so some knowledge some
• 23:35
  information have been kept. Like I said, either they were
• 23:38
  lost or have been kept on purpose away from us right now,
• 23:44
  living, all we have to do and that's what's weird to me
• 23:48
  because all you have to do is look open books that have been
• 23:51
  written and just to lead them in a new light.
• 23:54
  And you can completely like, it blows my mind.
• 23:57
  Like, I was Catholic brought up in my country and, you know,
• 24:02
  Catholic school, Catholic mom, everything and everything.
• 24:05
  So, I came back, I really understood and my mom studied
• 24:08
  Theology and she kind of passed it on to me as well.
• 24:11
  So I kind of have a very deep understanding of Christianity
• 24:14
  and Judaism and all that. And the country where I am now
• 24:16
  is, is a Muslim country. So, I've also spoken about
• 24:20
  people about Islam. So, and and when you, he look at
• 24:23
  the Abraham, Religions all three the abrahamic which is a
• 24:26
  Christianity Judaism and Islam. If you look at the Old
• 24:30
  Testament, for example of, in the Bible, both the Torah and
• 24:33
  Christianity, like these people were describing alien
• 24:37
  encounters. And not knowing it, like, I can
• 24:39
  read you right now, this paragraph.
• 24:42
  And it's from, from the book of Kings from the book of kings,
• 24:47
  and it talks about Elijah and I'll just read it for you.
• 24:51
  And, you know, see it from a A new encounter with someone and
• 24:57
  then tell me what you think says as they were walking along and
• 25:01
  talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire appeared and
• 25:07
  separated the two of them. And Elijah went up to heaven in
• 25:11
  a whirlwind. At least I saw this and cried
• 25:15
  out my father, my father, the Chariots of Israel and Elisha
• 25:18
  saw him no more. So you you're talking Out this
• 25:24
  Bible and fucking about the specific Prophet Elijah and how
• 25:28
  he while he was talking with his son, suddenly something a
• 25:31
  chariot that had fired appeared in the sky and literally pulled
• 25:36
  him up whirling upwards. Okay, how many times have we
• 25:41
  heard about alien? Encounters?
• 25:42
  Or in? Abductions from people, whether
• 25:44
  they do or not is not the question here, I'm not debating
• 25:47
  whether this is happening. I'm debating description of the
• 25:50
  story, like if someone is writing at that time cup.
• 25:54
  Six thousand years ago he does they don't have the words to
• 25:57
  describe new things. Like if I see something flying
• 26:00
  in the sky, I would call it an airplane, I would call it a UFO,
• 26:03
  I would call it a helicopter but they didn't have.
• 26:05
  They had the only thing that would transport them is a
• 26:07
  chariot. So this Chariot that is
• 26:10
  supposedly made of fire flew above them, and literally took a
• 26:14
  person into it and that was never ever return to Earth.
• 26:17
  You know what I mean? Just like, when you start to
• 26:20
  eating stuff like this, you go like, what are They describing
• 26:25
  like, in real ugly reality. What are they talking about?
• 26:27
  And this is the basis of three of the biggest religions that we
• 26:31
  have in the world that we're not talking about some ancient stuff
• 26:35
  that have disappeared or no longer believes that.
• 26:37
  This is the basis of abrahamic, religions, right?
• 26:41
  Watch the series recently which I would implore everyone to
• 26:45
  watch it Sokka. Paranormal supernatural horror
• 26:49
  series but it's centered around a religion and it's Midnight
• 26:54
  mass so Netflix and it's really good.
• 26:58
  Yeah, go for it, go for it, man. Trust me.
• 27:00
  But the thing that really spoke out to me and okay, is there I
• 27:05
  forgive spoilers? I have to kind of explain it.
• 27:09
  Go ahead, go ahead. Sorry.
• 27:11
  So spoilers for anyone that hasn't she been like mess.
• 27:14
  Basically what happens is it's a small community living on an
• 27:19
  island and they're all religious.
• 27:23
  I guess fundamentalist Christians.
• 27:25
  I don't know that they're not like extreme but there's like,
• 27:27
  you know, in a typical Community you've got some people that are
• 27:30
  like really, really devoted and the rest of them are fairly
• 27:32
  devoted you whatever. Yeah.
• 27:34
  And the sheriff on the island is Muslim and he has a Muslim son.
• 27:38
  So there's a dynamic days. It's very interesting, like, how
• 27:41
  they put this together. Interesting.
• 27:43
  Yeah. And based is the basically, it
• 27:45
  was a small community. You know, when you've seen them
• 27:47
  everywhere, small towns in different countries, right.
• 27:50
  Yeah. So what happens is, Um, this
• 27:56
  monster basically lucky it has like wings and it resembles an
• 28:01
  angel. And there's a particular scene,
• 28:06
  where they reveal this, Angel to the whole church and obviously
• 28:11
  they're all terrified. And one thing that I found,
• 28:14
  very, very interesting is there's this particular
• 28:16
  character and she, to be honest, she's like, the biggest villain.
• 28:20
  She's like your magic. Imagine that one.
• 28:23
  In in the church. That's just like constantly
• 28:25
  preaching. Constantly making everyone feel
• 28:28
  bad, constantly, cut that woman. There's always, I want the
• 28:31
  missed, you know, like that. Yeah, there's always that one
• 28:35
  person. And she's not, she's not even
• 28:37
  the preacher. She's like, yeah, quoting from
• 28:40
  the Bible, to justify everything.
• 28:42
  Like so she even know she's a bad person.
• 28:45
  She'll make it seem like she's the perfect Christian, and
• 28:48
  everyone else is a sinner. Kind of that value, right?
• 28:51
  Yeah. But interestingly, This ain't
• 28:56
  this. Angel is quite clearly, not an
• 28:57
  angel as we learn to, I guess, I guess it's vampires.
• 29:01
  I don't know what the five there is, but, you know, the
• 29:06
  interesting thing. There's two interesting things
• 29:07
  that I found one is that when they're talking about this alien
• 29:10
  and they're trying to get everyone in the church to like
• 29:13
  calm down and not be terrified of the alien.
• 29:15
  They say, don't forget in the Bible it says then you know do
• 29:19
  not be fearful of but I am with you and all that.
• 29:22
  Yeah, you know and and it Sense and it's like it kind of put
• 29:26
  this idea in my head that if you believe in that and you believe
• 29:31
  in the concept of angels, maybe Angels were terrifying creatures
• 29:35
  similar to demons and that would make sense, you know?
• 29:37
  Yeah it would follow and secondly as we dive into this
• 29:44
  story more and you quickly realize, okay, this Angel is
• 29:47
  not, it's a monster, it's bad. It's trying to basically wreak
• 29:50
  havoc that fundamentalist Christian, that the Lady.
• 29:54
  That's like really, really kind of trying to defend everything.
• 29:58
  She is blindly defending everything.
• 30:02
  The actions of the, the main priest who basically made all of
• 30:06
  this happen, the angel, everything like they are
• 30:09
  literally running around killing each other and then basically
• 30:13
  becoming essentially vampires. I guess, I don't know, it's
• 30:18
  really welcome, okay? But but they're they're selling
• 30:21
  this guy's of that, you know, old they are Born again, they
• 30:25
  are they are being given a gift from the gods.
• 30:28
  Etc. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:29
  And it really made me think about this, this concept of
• 30:31
  like, Tying in to what you just said about, you know, trying to
• 30:35
  make sense of things that are not within the Realms of what we
• 30:39
  consider to be normal. You know, be that religious
• 30:43
  spiritual paranormal, or even, I think there was probably a lot
• 30:52
  more as you say, back in the old times, there was more connection
• 30:57
  and more spirituality, and we understood things more and
• 31:00
  that's probably but we just maybe didn't have Words to
• 31:03
  articulate ourselves as clearly as we do now.
• 31:06
  But then obviously we've entered a more scientific age where
• 31:08
  things like that, I just reject it.
• 31:10
  Even to this day, you know, things like spirituality and the
• 31:13
  concept of the power of stones or whatever.
• 31:15
  Like, all these things are rejected because, you know,
• 31:19
  they've been mocked and movies. They've been mocked and
• 31:21
  literature. They've been mocked by see
• 31:23
  everything. That's that's my issue.
• 31:25
  When it comes to, like things being rejected by science, not
• 31:30
  only has science, you know, rejected so many.
• 31:33
  Ideas that later were proven. Correct.
• 31:34
  But that's fine. Let's say.
• 31:35
  Science is always in research and all that stuff.
• 31:39
  The problem with the approach that that people are having.
• 31:43
  Now like for example, if someone I thought about this a couple of
• 31:46
  months ago and like if someone says, do you believe in God?
• 31:50
  And let's say I say okay. Yeah, I believe in God and they
• 31:53
  say, Okay, prove that he exists, right?
• 31:55
  So my my response to that became that if our That God is the
• 32:04
  super, you know, entity that is outside of our physical world,
• 32:08
  right? And you're here asking me for
• 32:11
  the proof that he exists. You asking for a proof in the
• 32:15
  physical rules that you have for something that is outside of the
• 32:20
  physical world. You know what I mean?
• 32:21
  I can't prove something to you like even when it comes to these
• 32:25
  old stories, for example, because when we think aliens, we
• 32:28
  only we always think it's a physical presence, right?
• 32:33
  Like, it's something from another planet.
• 32:35
  But my, you know, movie reading into your apology and other
• 32:40
  stuff like that describe certain beings that are outside of the
• 32:44
  physical, they don't even work with them that.
• 32:46
  Well, that's what I'm saying. So you're basically saying or
• 32:50
  implying that perhaps alien life does exist, but not in the
• 32:54
  Physical Realm, not in the 3D necessarily.
• 32:56
  It could be something like if people encounter something and
• 33:00
  they can't really have any proof of it, they say.
• 33:03
  Thing left there is no that we are still looking for a physical
• 33:07
  proof for a non-physical entity. That's why a lot of people refer
• 33:11
  to them, as more extraterrestrial than they are
• 33:14
  aliens. Because there's something about
• 33:16
  these beings. For example, that is outside of
• 33:20
  what we Define as reality, and we know that our perception of
• 33:23
  reality is unbelievably limited, like they they are equipments
• 33:27
  that that detect like for example frequencies from the Sun
• 33:32
  that we cannot see. See, right, like we can.
• 33:34
  We expect them is so limited. There is things outside of our,
• 33:38
  the what, the ultraviolet, and the infrared.
• 33:41
  And outside of that Spectrum, there is exists a lot of things
• 33:46
  even on when we want to hear something, or when you are
• 33:50
  everything is vibrating in a specific way, throughout reality
• 33:54
  and we have a tiny taste of what it is.
• 33:59
  I've always thought. the reason that we've not had, I mean, we
• 34:05
  definitely had any encounters, I think, but I think that why they
• 34:10
  have not revealed themselves to us in a big way.
• 34:12
  Is I go back to and again, I'm a massive nerd.
• 34:14
  So sorry. But if anyone's ever watched
• 34:18
  like Star Trek next Generation or the Star Trek movies, one of
• 34:21
  the big things that they always push, is this idea that they
• 34:26
  never interfere with worlds that are still developing and that
• 34:29
  you know, for instance in one of the movies it's called Star
• 34:32
  Trek. First Contact Whole point of it,
• 34:34
  is they go back in time, Bubba, blah.
• 34:37
  And they go back to the point where humans first made contact
• 34:40
  with an alien race, being the Vulcans, and they basically,
• 34:45
  they only interjected. So they've been monitoring them
• 34:47
  for a long time, but they only interjected and met with humans
• 34:51
  when they discovered warp drive. So, the ability to travel faster
• 34:55
  than the speed of light. And just looking at that from
• 34:58
  like a logical perspective for a second, it stands to reason that
• 35:01
  if there are aliens that do exist out there, And speaking to
• 35:04
  what you said about, how maybe they don't operate within the
• 35:09
  realm of hard physical work. Yeah.
• 35:11
  That our physical world, the dimensions, Third Dimension.
• 35:13
  Maybe they are in existence, in the fourth, fifth dimension,
• 35:16
  Etc, and maybe they are waiting for us to get to that point
• 35:21
  again. Maybe we were in the past, maybe
• 35:24
  100 years ago, we were there, but something happened.
• 35:27
  Something. I don't know.
• 35:29
  I agree. I agree completely because even
• 35:31
  if you want to apply it to us right now, like You know, how
• 35:34
  those you see some pictures of this tribe that live with like
• 35:38
  very remote from. And they have no contact with
• 35:41
  anyone outside of their Island. I think there was one last year
• 35:45
  that came up like someone went there, and he was killed on the
• 35:48
  spot or whatever. I don't remember.
• 35:49
  But basically, like, you see pictures like, far from fog and
• 35:54
  you can see them living on this island, right?
• 35:57
  And think of that from their perspective, what are they
• 36:02
  expect to them? They die.
• 36:04
  Island is the whole world. Like there is nothing outside of
• 36:07
  it. They are incapable of perceiving
• 36:10
  buildings and cars, and the internet, and all that stuff so.
• 36:15
  And but to them, they are still functioning.
• 36:17
  We can see them from far. And we have we don't want to
• 36:20
  interfere and all that and this is as simple as just, you know,
• 36:24
  a neighboring Island that we can just travel to.
• 36:26
  And we're choosing not to because, you know, whatever want
• 36:28
  to keep them in all that stuff. But when you look at it, from
• 36:31
  their point of view, they are living there.
• 36:34
  Daya reality on this basis of idea, that the only thing that
• 36:37
  exists and matters is us this island this drive and that's it.
• 36:40
  There's nothing else outside of it so you can imagine what this
• 36:44
  infinite Universe. We live in so many different
• 36:47
  dimensions. So many different realities.
• 36:50
  That, of course, there's something that is your being,
• 36:55
  you know, watched monitored, someone knows, you exist.
• 36:57
  Something is, is there and whatever stories we hear from
• 37:02
  time to time throughout our history.
• 37:04
  A about encounters about someone experiencing something in the
• 37:08
  Paranormal, hearing your voice seeing something.
• 37:11
  It's based in someplace safe, some sort of reality that this
• 37:15
  is based on. And I have this theory, that
• 37:19
  kids children below the age of seven.
• 37:22
  They 100% Can perceive things that we as adults.
• 37:27
  Can't. I have experienced it firsthand
• 37:29
  and I'll tell you the story. But the reason why I believe
• 37:32
  it's before seven is because After seven and eight, that's
• 37:36
  when you become more socially conditioned to what is real, and
• 37:39
  what is not what is accepted and what is not, whether it's from
• 37:42
  society, whether it's from religion culture, people around
• 37:45
  you all that and you have these ideas.
• 37:48
  When children are asked specific questions that they give you
• 37:51
  like, sometimes give me goosebumps.
• 37:53
  I have a, my son is eight now and two or three years ago, I
• 37:59
  kind of just decided to ask him in the car.
• 38:02
  Guy was with him and he was like, but what do you Think
• 38:04
  happens before you are born. Like, where do you think your
• 38:08
  work before you were born? He looked at me and he was like,
• 38:13
  Well, I see this big space that is made of white light and I see
• 38:19
  in the middle of it, a golden light where I feel very
• 38:23
  comfortable and that's where I was living.
• 38:26
  Not like, that's incredibly specific for something.
• 38:29
  And then when I research near-death experiences and what
• 38:33
  people talk about, that's the exact description they have.
• 38:38
  I have this woman who are basically, like raised, Me and
• 38:43
  I've known her all my life and she did go through a negative
• 38:46
  experience when I was 19 or 20 and I sat with her and I spoke
• 38:52
  to her. And I was like, so, what did
• 38:53
  you, what did you experience? How was it, what did you see?
• 38:55
  And she described it in details about, like, being in a white
• 38:59
  space surrounded. By these creatures that she felt
• 39:01
  so much loved, she felt at home. She saw a golden light.
• 39:06
  This isn't like any look, my son.
• 39:08
  Who was 605 at the time, you know, was online to kind of Get
• 39:12
  this idea from someone else. Not this old lady who is 70?
• 39:16
  Also was online to get these ideas from someone.
• 39:18
  It's just like it's some sort of truth that is within us and and
• 39:23
  it's been you know covered with so much conditioning and so much
• 39:27
  thought Swag. Like science tells you know
• 39:29
  nothing happens. There is nothing.
• 39:30
  You were imagining you were hallucinating you exist and
• 39:33
  that's I think The reason why it's hidden from us is because
• 39:40
  it's power and that makes sense from a historical perspective.
• 39:45
  Because if you think about it, like if you take British history
• 39:48
  as an example before, money became the thing that everyone
• 39:53
  worships essentially. Well, as in the new Gods,
• 39:57
  whereas in the thing that I can control, you know, look yep.
• 40:00
  That's capitalism your money drives.
• 40:02
  Everything, if you have money, you have more power and
• 40:05
  influence. If you have no money, you
• 40:07
  Nothing like you cannot influence or change anything?
• 40:10
  Yes, that's how it works. But before that was religion,
• 40:15
  you know, that that's how you control people.
• 40:17
  That's how you know, people control the Church Controlled
• 40:21
  you with fear. Always if you do this you're a
• 40:22
  sinner and you're going to hell and that's how and they still to
• 40:25
  some extent have that power of people.
• 40:29
  Some church really believe in that concept.
• 40:31
  Yeah, I think Dirt, when you start tapping into spirituality
• 40:39
  and you start tapping into these things, you start lonely about
• 40:41
  these things and you learn about the possibilities, that's when
• 40:45
  things get interesting. And I think they're terrified of
• 40:49
  people. The people that control the
• 40:51
  world of, I don't, I don't think they want.
• 40:53
  They want people to get involved with that.
• 40:55
  They know all about that, I think.
• 40:56
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:57
  And that's why it's painted in such a bad way, like
• 41:00
  spirituality and then they would call it.
• 41:01
  Oh, this is the new age. Oh, this is hereditary.
• 41:04
  See, all this is And that and what's weird is that I haven't
• 41:09
  spoken with anyone including myself who has tried to apply a
• 41:13
  spiritual life about self-empowerment about things.
• 41:17
  And I have witnessed the change in my life, the change in me and
• 41:22
  in other people. Whereas, all the abrahamic
• 41:26
  religions do is take the power away from you, like they'll
• 41:30
  physically, literally tell you. You are nothing, you are a
• 41:33
  sinner. You are not worthy.
• 41:35
  You are. Born like this.
• 41:36
  And the only way you can save yourself is if you listen to the
• 41:39
  church. If you read the Quran, if you
• 41:41
  read the toga, if you listen to the priest, Rabbi whatever.
• 41:44
  So there's this destruction of self from the day.
• 41:48
  You were born that your, that is little like in Catholics like,
• 41:52
  you are born with the original sin, right?
• 41:54
  Like I have you heard of that in terms of?
• 41:56
  Yeah, the other your bonus sooner and you have to repent,
• 41:59
  born a sinner, imagine imagine a god like it even contradicts
• 42:03
  what the religion teaches because their religion Stitching
• 42:06
  this all, loving, and pathetic. And compensating God has created
• 42:11
  everything through love and then oh, you know, this baby who just
• 42:14
  born. Yeah, he's born a sinner, you
• 42:16
  know, like it just it doesn't apply at all.
• 42:20
  And it's all about taking the power away from you because they
• 42:23
  don't want you to be powerful. They don't want you to ask
• 42:26
  questions and this even applies to this idea, came to me,
• 42:30
  recently about education in itself, not just in terms of
• 42:33
  straight line. Exactly what I was gonna ask
• 42:35
  you. Yeah, looks like it because you
• 42:44
  have to conform to everyone else.
• 42:46
  You should not have this specific ideas.
• 42:48
  Like I would try to you know, colored my hair or do something.
• 42:51
  No, individuality you supposed to look exactly like it want you
• 42:55
  to look and you supposed to think exactly, like we want you
• 42:57
  to think. And this idea came to me
• 43:00
  recently and it literally blew my mind because the idea of
• 43:04
  school in itself. Apparently came because they
• 43:08
  wanted people. I don't know if you've heard of
• 43:10
  this or not. So at the time of the Industrial
• 43:14
  Age people who falls out, we'll all like Farmers, they were
• 43:17
  living in villages, they were very uneducated and they needed
• 43:21
  people who can operate within the Industrial Age of go to her
• 43:26
  to the warehouse, go to the work within the industry machines
• 43:30
  operate and then go back home. So they don't want you to
• 43:33
  actually build your own self. And become your own boss and
• 43:37
  open a bit. They want you to study.
• 43:39
  So they made the education system because the killer just
• 43:42
  so that you can have enough intelligence to operate a
• 43:46
  machine of a great enough and then go home.
• 43:49
  And you know, you're going to be dead by the time you're 60
• 43:51
  anyway, so it's not like you're going to need it.
• 43:53
  After you retire the entire educational system that we have.
• 43:57
  Now does not help you for anything in life 00.
• 44:01
  Like, I look back at my school district, where was my, where
• 44:04
  where did they teach me how to Save money to buy a house.
• 44:07
  How to fix my card? How to have a relationship with
• 44:11
  someone without fucking it up? I'm sorry.
• 44:13
  Yes, without how to, you know, everything that you can that we
• 44:19
  need right now. Empathy understanding people
• 44:23
  learning sign language, for example, learning all the stuff
• 44:26
  that cooking cooking. Let's say, yeah, everything that
• 44:30
  you need to do on your own. You want thought that you were
• 44:33
  taught about this, you know? Math Vector.
• 44:36
  I don't know what like this function that it goes to the the
• 44:39
  infinity like who I is that I stagger assist theorems but who
• 44:44
  needs that other than people who are going to become math
• 44:46
  teacher? So it's like literally a pyramid
• 44:48
  scheme, you know what I mean? Like the only way to benefit
• 44:53
  from what you learn is to teach someone else cuz no one in real
• 44:55
  life is using it or unless very specialized in it.
• 44:59
  So yeah, everything is just geared towards, you know, become
• 45:04
  conformed. And like listen to the only
• 45:07
  truth. We tell you this is it any idea
• 45:10
  outside of it is wrong? Is going to be ridiculed, does
• 45:13
  not apply and you know, move on Yeah, totally agreement.
• 45:20
  Oh, they're just keep keeping this kind of Particular
• 45:26
  conversation going, where do you stand on the Paranormal ghosts
• 45:32
  and things like that? Yeah, I know.
• 45:35
  I I can't deny, I can't deny. It's that there's something I
• 45:40
  can't deny. I don't know if I would say.
• 45:43
  It's a ghost of someone who was living before or not.
• 45:46
  I can't really tell, you know, or be sure of anything like
• 45:50
  that, but I have experienced something that was really
• 45:53
  paranormal, like, it was very, you know, short, but it was
• 45:57
  insane. Like I was, I was around, I
• 46:02
  think, 17 or 18 and I was coming back home.
• 46:05
  I was with my sister in the car, she was driving and we got into
• 46:08
  this fight. Whether sister fight, I was
• 46:11
  really angry. She parked the car before she
• 46:14
  finished packing. I went down from the car guy.
• 46:16
  Went up to my house and opened the dog went and I'm alone.
• 46:21
  Very angry, like extremely angry.
• 46:23
  And I don't even remember why I just remember this this thing
• 46:26
  inside of me, I go inside to the kitchen, turn on the lights.
• 46:31
  Now from the switch towards the back, the light.
• 46:34
  Light bulb, is it needs like maybe five steps turn on the
• 46:37
  light. I walk in to the kitchen, still
• 46:40
  with this wage around me and the lightbulb above me explodes.
• 46:47
  I'm not saying it stopped working.
• 46:49
  You know, it actually explode like it shattered everywhere in
• 46:53
  the kitchen glass like completely shattered.
• 46:57
  And in this exact moment, I felt like something has left me, you
• 47:02
  know, like it was like like I was so shocked but at the same
• 47:05
  time I was calm was that just happened?
• 47:09
  And it's literally in my hair on the food on the table everywhere
• 47:12
  everywhere and I can't explain it.
• 47:15
  Like, it's literally felt like there is this something that
• 47:18
  left my body and went into it II?
• 47:21
  Can't, I can't explain it, nor do, I honestly care if people
• 47:24
  believe it or not and all that, you know, I I know it's like
• 47:28
  it's inside like this happened. I know, right?
• 47:32
  Yeah. Like I've always kind of been
• 47:35
  interested in this because I've never seen anything but I've
• 47:38
  definitely felt bad feelings going into.
• 47:41
  I remember when I was so I lived in a country called Estonia for
• 47:47
  about three years and I was visiting there a little bit
• 47:51
  before I actually started living there.
• 47:52
  And there was this particular prison, it's called one but that
• 47:57
  I'd prison it used to be an old C4 and then it was converted
• 48:01
  into a Soviet prison at some point.
• 48:04
  And at the time that we were visiting it.
• 48:08
  It was weird because like they didn't have like proper
• 48:11
  precautions so that you can walk through and there's like smash
• 48:13
  glass everywhere and books lying around that also yes, it's kind
• 48:16
  of amazing but also Kinda. Yeah.
• 48:18
  Yeah. And there was lots of quite cool
• 48:20
  art, installations and all this stuff put in.
• 48:22
  But I remember what was really interesting to me was, you know,
• 48:27
  I went to the areas like, the main Courtyard, the prison
• 48:31
  rooms, the doctor's surgery area that the light.
• 48:35
  Is that Frozen in time, and I remember even, Into the cutting
• 48:39
  block where they used to shoot people and I felt nothing in all
• 48:42
  those places. But okay, for some reason when I
• 48:47
  went downstairs with my then partner we both went downstairs
• 48:52
  and there's a very dark area so it really dark and dingy we went
• 48:56
  downstairs to what I guess would have been the showers the
• 49:00
  bathrooms whatever. Okay I instantly felt Terror
• 49:05
  like just a dark feeling like I just felt like we need to get
• 49:09
  out of here and she felt the same way like the only way out
• 49:13
  the same way as well. Yeah, the only way I can
• 49:15
  describe it is something bad happened there, and you can feel
• 49:21
  and that this is what people often talk about.
• 49:23
  When they talk about paranormal experiences, they say that
• 49:26
  whatever. Even if there is a ghost or
• 49:30
  experiences happening there, it's an echo of the things that
• 49:34
  happened. It's like a Perpetual replay.
• 49:38
  Of a memory stuck in time and it's the it is energy energy.
• 49:42
  Yes. What it is dark.
• 49:44
  And if the word Echo, I love the word Echo by the way that you
• 49:47
  used. Yeah.
• 49:48
  I feel like did it feel like something doesn't want you there
• 49:54
  or it felt more like I don't want to be near this feeling.
• 49:58
  I just I didn't want to be near it, but I felt more like
• 50:06
  Something just bad had happened. I just I felt you know, like
• 50:10
  whatever this area was obviously, it was showers
• 50:14
  toilet, like something bad happening, maybe someone got
• 50:16
  murdered there, may be other nefarious.
• 50:19
  Horrible things happened there. You know, you can make that in
• 50:22
  your head. Yeah, yeah, something bad
• 50:25
  happened and I felt in the energy was still fresh almost.
• 50:30
  This is very easy if you didn't feel it in the other places.
• 50:33
  No no. And that's the surprise ending.
• 50:35
  Don't like oh, surely. I'd feel something in the area
• 50:38
  where they used to shoot people and stuff.
• 50:39
  Yeah. Nothing nothing at all.
• 50:43
  I mean the whole thing would do. Give your own was a whole
• 50:45
  experience. It was, it was quite.
• 50:47
  I can imagine surreal, but, you know, I've been to other prisons
• 50:51
  and stuff and you don't always feel things but that was very
• 50:55
  telling, I think. Yeah, and I've, I've had it in
• 50:59
  other places. I remember there was this is
• 51:02
  just coming to me. Now I remember My great
• 51:06
  grandma's house. I was lucky enough to meet my
• 51:08
  great grandparents and this was on my dad's side.
• 51:13
  And she was kind of, not speaking of the dead, but let's
• 51:16
  let's just say she wasn't the best person that she wasn't, she
• 51:20
  wasn't the nicest person. She was always nice to me.
• 51:23
  She's lovely. Okay.
• 51:24
  And my mom but to everyone else that's so much and what I
• 51:28
  gathered is that she had not had a particularly happy life, you
• 51:30
  know, it is what it is. But I remember I always hated I
• 51:37
  was very young. That's maybe five six.
• 51:40
  I always remember hating to go upstairs to go to the bathroom.
• 51:43
  I always hated that, but I remember one time I walked into
• 51:46
  her room and it's just a typical old ladies from bear dinner the
• 51:53
  mirror, all that stuff. But I felt Scared like really
• 51:59
  scared. I like irrationally that there's
• 52:00
  no reason to feel shit. Like some people might just say,
• 52:03
  oh, well, you were young, you were on your own and it's like
• 52:05
  my parents were down known as you know what I mean?
• 52:07
  Like, yeah. Could just go downstairs.
• 52:10
  It's not like I was in some sense, the different types of
• 52:13
  fear, okay? Like I'm sure you they are like
• 52:15
  you could be afraid and then they stagger like the one that
• 52:19
  like is. Yeah yeah and it was it wasn't
• 52:21
  Terror was like I felt like someone else was there.
• 52:25
  Like, I felt like a present not a presence as I say, but I felt
• 52:29
  like I wasn't alone or something was wrong.
• 52:32
  I knew I just needed to get out of that room.
• 52:34
  I never said anything to my mom, but I just remember thinking
• 52:39
  That's not right. I don't want to be in there
• 52:40
  anymore, and I felt that quite a few times in my life.
• 52:44
  You know, you go to certain places.
• 52:47
  I did a lot of urbex, exploring when I was in Estonia so Urban
• 52:51
  exploring, where you go and explore abandoned places.
• 52:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:55
  And at night. Yeah.
• 52:57
  Yeah. All in the day, you know,
• 52:58
  wherever we explored tons of places that had these kind of
• 53:03
  dark Vibes about them and I remember one place we explored.
• 53:08
  Wasn't abandoned Bible school was very final place that we
• 53:12
  explored and there wasn't anything dark about it per se.
• 53:16
  But I remember, you know, the weather was terrible.
• 53:19
  It was in the middle of Autumn and it was really cold, and we
• 53:22
  broken into get in there and stuff and that we didn't smash
• 53:27
  anything. Like there was already said it
• 53:29
  was okay, we saw that there was like A window that you could get
• 53:35
  into that I'd already been smashed out and I think we found
• 53:38
  a chair and we're like someone's been here.
• 53:41
  Someone's already liking. We're not the first ones at
• 53:44
  school. When does practically open might
• 53:46
  as well just do. It wasn't something that the
• 53:48
  nineties of the mid-2000s circuit we debated just been
• 53:51
  left there to rot and we were just exploring it.
• 53:54
  I remember looking out of the windows in certain rooms and
• 53:59
  just feeling a very cock duct, a kind of felt like a feeling of
• 54:03
  death, it was like, being in a, in a cemetery or, you know, you
• 54:09
  get that weird feeling sometimes when you go to cemeteries, like,
• 54:12
  not like a bad feeling, but just kind of like I kind of empty
• 54:17
  nothingness feeling yeah. Had are kind of feeling.
• 54:21
  Yeah, that's how I felt in that place.
• 54:22
  And many of the places that we visited and they say, there's
• 54:25
  this famous not famous, there's like a saying that you shouldn't
• 54:30
  spend too much time in abandoned places because it's like, it's
• 54:35
  bad for you somehow supposedly, it can affect your energy in a
• 54:38
  profound way. Supposedly, this is what I've
• 54:41
  been told. Yeah, I don't know where I stand
• 54:44
  on that but like, The idea being that.
• 54:48
  In a way it's like that cursed place is because they've been
• 54:51
  abandoned on purpose and there's almost never a good reason for
• 54:56
  that but it but it's interesting how random places.
• 55:03
  Tend to end up because a lot of places just end up you know,
• 55:07
  destroyed battered, whatever you know.
• 55:09
  Like there's there's so many are abandoned hospitals that have
• 55:12
  like stuff. Oh yeah.
• 55:13
  You know, but then you get places like I've seen explorers
• 55:16
  in places like Japan where they'll be like an abandoned
• 55:20
  school and the Japanese have I think Chinese as well like all
• 55:24
  those kind of Asian countries, they have this thing of like if
• 55:27
  they leave, if they know they're going to abandon the place.
• 55:31
  They clean it and make it so But let's before they leave.
• 55:34
  Wow. So they won't get around this
• 55:36
  school and it's like a children's store.
• 55:39
  I guess for the kids between 5 to 10 or something and
• 55:42
  everything is spotless. All the chairs are neatly,
• 55:44
  stacked books, stacked neatly everything's that is completely
• 55:47
  abandoned hasn't been touched in probably 20 30 years but it's
• 55:50
  just sitting there. Mmm.
• 55:53
  You know, clean? Yeah, amazing.
• 55:57
  They must there's definitely something.
• 55:59
  Then within the culture that that understands this Right like
• 56:03
  understands what sort of energy maybe it is is kept behind or is
• 56:10
  residual if you want residual energy from those places and
• 56:14
  that's what I think. Like now everything around this
• 56:18
  topic is would be considered like, you know, pseudoscience or
• 56:22
  like, you know, imagination crazy and all that.
• 56:25
  But at some point like you would think something like let's say
• 56:28
  Wi-Fi was considered pseudoscience crazy of magic,
• 56:31
  right? Like as A magic is just not,
• 56:34
  it's something that science has not yet twitch, or has not yet
• 56:37
  detected or whatever. I feel like in the future we're
• 56:40
  going to be able to detect and to have, you know, measures and
• 56:44
  quantify forms of energy and then we'll be able to understand
• 56:49
  that there is something that, you know, either stay there or
• 56:53
  something that operates on that level, because you can't really
• 56:56
  explain how thousands and thousands of years different
• 57:01
  people, different cultures. All have an affiliation to this
• 57:05
  work to the Paranormal. Like, do you believe in magic?
• 57:12
  I believe it's it's something that we have not yet fully
• 57:18
  grasped really understood. So it's to me, I do believe that
• 57:24
  it's something that's real, but I'd rather not tap into it right
• 57:30
  now because it's not only scary, but it's something that I feel
• 57:36
  we have not yet fully controlled, you know?
• 57:38
  I mean, I don't like anything that Is outside of what we are
• 57:42
  capable of doing right now. Like the tools we have and all
• 57:45
  that, it's something a bit. Like, I'd rather, you know, get
• 57:50
  to know what's more, understand it more and all that.
• 57:52
  But yeah, in terms of whether it's real, it's definitely
• 57:55
  there's definitely something there.
• 57:56
  Of course, amazing stuff. Let's switch up the conversation
• 58:00
  and discuss the board games Cafe that you own, alright, in which
• 58:06
  you did mention earlier, it's called the Ravens Ravens nest.
• 58:11
  That right. Yes.
• 58:12
  And yeah, one of the most popular games and what can you
• 58:16
  tell us about this business and how it came to be?
• 58:20
  Well, I mean, the weight give to be is that I was actually at my
• 58:23
  old job. I'm a designer or director,
• 58:26
  whatever was in the field of agency and actually had
• 58:31
  something really bad happened to me.
• 58:32
  Because I went through this panic and anxiety attack while I
• 58:36
  was at work. It was the first time, something
• 58:38
  like that happened to me. Like, I've dealt with depression
• 58:40
  before and stuff, but when it came to this, I actually like my
• 58:44
  heart was like, pump neck. It was insane.
• 58:47
  My half of my face went numb and I was like, Going to die.
• 58:50
  Like I'm dying. I'm dying right now and called
• 58:55
  now my ex-wife and took me to the hospital.
• 58:58
  Got an EKG and you know, nothing, we know they were told
• 59:02
  me your hearts find, there's nothing going on.
• 59:04
  So I didn't believe them. And I went to three different
• 59:06
  hospitals in the same day. Like I wanted to get the test
• 59:09
  because I'm like I'm dying and the last one told me like you
• 59:12
  might want to consider that, this is more you know
• 59:14
  psychosomatic. Then it's actually something
• 59:17
  happening to you. Like you might be having an
• 59:18
  anxiety attack. The thing is, it's not okay
• 59:21
  with, you know, on a mental emotional level.
• 59:24
  I was like, hmmm interesting concept went to a therapist and
• 59:28
  all of that and follow and I realized that, you know, like I
• 59:32
  am not suited to this, you know, life of like going from morning
• 59:36
  staying till one day, I'm at my job, you know, barely seeing my
• 59:40
  son barely seeing having a life so on and so on.
• 59:43
  And then when it clicked, let me just do something that, I mean,
• 59:47
  the country where I am now is, I'm originally from Lebanon.
• 59:50
  But I can moved here 10 years, 12 years ago.
• 59:53
  I mean began right now. And if you know, it's a small
• 59:56
  cute island in the Arab Gulf and there's nothing like this in
• 1:00:01
  the, on the island here. So so I was discussing it with
• 1:00:05
  my wife at the time and you'll end.
• 1:00:07
  We both love board games and we like there's no way to go to
• 1:00:10
  play these things so, you know, might as well just make our own
• 1:00:13
  and we did it plus all our love for Fantasy movie.
• 1:00:19
  He is Lord of the Rings Game of Thrones everything know this.
• 1:00:23
  So, like let's say, yeah, it's like let's create a space for
• 1:00:26
  people who like the stuff to come and, you know, enjoy it
• 1:00:30
  too. It's like we're selling the
• 1:00:31
  experience more than just the sitting here like just in terms
• 1:00:35
  of decoration the music we play like I have a, which sword, you
• 1:00:40
  know, on the on the wall I have a Harry Potter stuff at like
• 1:00:44
  everything you can imagine. A fantasy lover would be like
• 1:00:47
  and like till now like now it's been three.
• 1:00:50
  Years. We don't talk about 2020 and
• 1:00:52
  when that happened, but it did not like when people like new
• 1:00:58
  people come in and they look around, like, it just makes me
• 1:01:01
  feel so proud. Like they like, this is the
• 1:01:03
  place we've been waiting for, so yeah, it's pretty awesome.
• 1:01:07
  We also host like, I don't know if you're familiar with Dungeons
• 1:01:09
  and Dragons. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:11
  So we have a dedicated space for exact.
• 1:01:13
  So like if people want to get introduced to the game, we get
• 1:01:17
  them. A specialized dungeon master and
• 1:01:19
  we sit And we said and all that. So yeah, it's pretty geeky nerdy
• 1:01:23
  place. What do you think both games are
• 1:01:25
  still popular? Like what's the main appeal?
• 1:01:27
  Them. I feel people want to escape his
• 1:01:32
  word, they want to, they want to invest their emotions and
• 1:01:35
  Imagination into something they want to live as a second life.
• 1:01:39
  You know what I mean? And I feel like that space
• 1:01:42
  creates something that is away from from social media, from
• 1:01:46
  your phone, from the internet, from all that.
• 1:01:48
  Like so many times I've seen like these large groups of
• 1:01:52
  people sitting for hours and hours and not a single person,
• 1:01:56
  grabs their phone, you know what I mean?
• 1:01:57
  Like, they all just So in the moment and we will actually
• 1:02:01
  debating, whether we should provide internet at the start or
• 1:02:05
  not like when you're opening the what just yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Like it was like it came up. We do, we do give it out, but it
• 1:02:13
  just feel like everyone is in the moment.
• 1:02:15
  Like, my favorite thing to see is when people are just like
• 1:02:18
  laughing and just having such a good time and I've been told how
• 1:02:22
  much they go like after a while and they want to come, you know,
• 1:02:25
  I can pay and everything and they go like, you know, we God,
• 1:02:28
  that we are in this country. Like we forgot that we're here,
• 1:02:31
  you know, like and that to me is the most gratifying feeling like
• 1:02:35
  I was able to give them this space where they are not
• 1:02:40
  thinking about how shitty everything is, and I'll how bad
• 1:02:44
  the world is and how, you know, just like completely disconnect
• 1:02:47
  from everything and just, you know, lucky like children like
• 1:02:51
  like, how we were when we were kids and we were all playing
• 1:02:53
  outside and just like, without a worry.
• 1:02:55
  That's the idea to create that space.
• 1:02:58
  You mentioned that you that you suffer from anxiety.
• 1:03:02
  So do I quite badly? Oh well, I'm just wondering how
• 1:03:07
  do you manage anxiety, level, how do you tackle it, or what
• 1:03:12
  advice could you give to people? Well, so, the first thing that
• 1:03:18
  that actually helped me manage it when it was really kicking
• 1:03:21
  in, like, really motivate me at the time through my therapist
• 1:03:25
  was when she told me that, All you need to do like basically in
• 1:03:30
  my in my situation. My anxiety came from the place
• 1:03:33
  that I didn't see any future for myself.
• 1:03:35
  Like where am I going with life? Like this is my job, I have a
• 1:03:39
  job. I have a, I have a son and
• 1:03:40
  everything but that's it. Like there is nothing that is
• 1:03:44
  pushing me to do something extra.
• 1:03:47
  And he told me that all you have to do is give yourself in your
• 1:03:53
  head, a project. And if you spent five minutes a
• 1:03:57
  day, Five minutes a day, dedicated to this project.
• 1:04:01
  It's going to help you set. That's crazy.
• 1:04:04
  Talk like this is way too much, but I applied it and the project
• 1:04:09
  was my coffee shop and it's actually from the moment of the
• 1:04:13
  anxiety, hit to the moment. I opened the coffee shop was a
• 1:04:16
  full year, one full year, okay? I didn't think I'm gonna make it
• 1:04:20
  through that year, like, I stayed at my job and everything,
• 1:04:23
  but just the fact that I was dedicating like in the middle of
• 1:04:27
  I work, I will be like, okay, I'm done with everything.
• 1:04:30
  I just opened like how about how much, how budget, you know,
• 1:04:33
  what's my budget for this place? Like how much am I going to
• 1:04:36
  spend money? Let me research, what would a
• 1:04:38
  fake chimney cost? And I would do that.
• 1:04:41
  I'll do that and that's it. And it would give me this push.
• 1:04:44
  Like, I couldn't believe it, like it just feels like I just
• 1:04:47
  left this space for 10 minutes and came back to it, to do my
• 1:04:50
  job and get paid and everything. And then another time, she told
• 1:04:54
  me this thing, which I to me, this kind of changed my life,
• 1:04:56
  where she told me, Like, you know, having any sort of mental
• 1:05:01
  issues is the same as having any physical issues.
• 1:05:05
  So let's say someone who has diabetes should, if you have
• 1:05:07
  diabetes, I would tell you, okay, take your insulin shots,
• 1:05:10
  right? But if you don't change your
• 1:05:13
  diet and your way of life, nothing's going to happen, you
• 1:05:16
  still cannot suffer through a lot of things.
• 1:05:18
  The same way she said, you need to change the diet of your mind.
• 1:05:23
  This is when it comes to encourage like, as long as you
• 1:05:27
  think, Differently than you were before, that's all it takes.
• 1:05:31
  Nothing needs to happen on the physical place.
• 1:05:33
  Just change that diet of your brain, eventually you'll get to
• 1:05:39
  it and, you know, speaking for myself, it worked, that's it.
• 1:05:43
  I can't say this works for everyone.
• 1:05:45
  I can't say that, you know, this is the recipe and all that but
• 1:05:48
  to me as long as I was able to shift their thinking and it
• 1:05:52
  pushed me into my own coffee shop, it was me into my own
• 1:05:55
  podcast pushed me into a million different directions.
• 1:05:57
  Actions. All I had to do was just give it
• 1:06:00
  space. Give it space that this thought
• 1:06:04
  might happen. One day, I just have to feed it
• 1:06:07
  and feel it and feel it. And that's it, like, share and
• 1:06:11
  great stuff for in you. Also suffer from sleep
• 1:06:16
  paralysis, which is something I suffer to combination.
• 1:06:20
  So I actually stopped the from sleep paralysis, and sleep
• 1:06:23
  apnea. And, yeah, for those who don't
• 1:06:27
  know, Quickly explain. So sleep paralysis is where You
• 1:06:33
  just before you wake up because obviously when you go to sleep,
• 1:06:38
  your body puts your, what your mind, your brain puts your body,
• 1:06:42
  in a state of paralysis that stops you from, you know, like
• 1:06:45
  slapping yourself in the face and waking yourself up in the
• 1:06:47
  night. That's, that's how you fell
• 1:06:48
  asleep. Yeah.
• 1:06:49
  But sometimes, this is period, just before you wake up where
• 1:06:54
  there's like a delay. So, even though your brain is
• 1:06:58
  awake, your body is not so and then that's basically Secondly,
• 1:07:02
  what sleep paralysis is a nutshell so you can't move.
• 1:07:05
  It's actually very terrifying. Now, I sleep apnea comes into
• 1:07:09
  play is that's when you stop breathing.
• 1:07:12
  So I had it even two nights ago. Wow, same thing as every time I
• 1:07:20
  am about to wake up. I know I'm awake.
• 1:07:22
  I'm, I guess I'm sort of dreaming.
• 1:07:25
  I'm sort of dreaming of myself in the room, trying to wake up
• 1:07:30
  and I'm trying to like Always the same thing.
• 1:07:32
  I'm trying to push myself. Yeah, wake up and try to push my
• 1:07:36
  energy. Push me up and then I start
• 1:07:38
  panicking a little bit. Yeah.
• 1:07:40
  Because I can't do it and then I stopped breathing a little bit
• 1:07:45
  and I've learned over time now to just relax.
• 1:07:49
  Go again, I get a bit stressed and then as that moment I feel I
• 1:07:54
  start to panic. Usually, that's when I wake up
• 1:07:58
  you and I can and I sort of it's not like that.
• 1:08:01
  Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's yeah.
• 1:08:04
  And I just sit there and I'm like, how I'm just glad I'm
• 1:08:06
  alive. I glad I didn't die.
• 1:08:08
  Thank the Lord. I don't know.
• 1:08:10
  Well, who is this? It's on sleep paralysis.
• 1:08:20
  How you deal with it and so much.
• 1:08:22
  I have suffered with sleep paralysis for seven years from
• 1:08:27
  the age of 12 to the age of 19 every week every week.
• 1:08:33
  If not once twice, yes, it was a constant torture most time I
• 1:08:39
  wouldn't want to go to sleep because of that that because I
• 1:08:43
  know what was going to ask was waiting for waiting for me
• 1:08:48
  actually. And I would probably say that
• 1:08:51
  going through personal appearances makes like the
• 1:08:55
  feared, I would get in a sleep paralysis is worse than anything
• 1:08:59
  I've ever experienced ever since.
• 1:09:01
  Then till now ever like the doc, I'm talking together, I'm
• 1:09:04
  talking fear, you know, the feel that that the grabs me that that
• 1:09:09
  paralyzes me and it became so common.
• 1:09:13
  That I knew it was going to happen before, it happens like
• 1:09:16
  like the moment I would in that moment where your Find wakes up.
• 1:09:20
  I would know that, oh, it's gonna happen.
• 1:09:23
  And then it happens. And I'm talking like full-on
• 1:09:26
  seeing Shadow creatures at my dog and all that.
• 1:09:29
  I know if you go through that, but but I've read about it a lot
• 1:09:33
  and I've no other people have experienced stuff like that,
• 1:09:35
  like, I've experienced things where it's like, so so I would
• 1:09:41
  feel the upper like everything above what I'm sleeping is chaos
• 1:09:47
  and is going through like tag. Hug and everything and
• 1:09:50
  everything below is my regular bedroom.
• 1:09:52
  So I would actually see my room. I would see it like if I have
• 1:09:56
  left a cup of water next to my, you know, I would see it.
• 1:09:59
  I would if there's a light coming through the window, I
• 1:10:01
  would see it. So so I'm definitely awake to an
• 1:10:03
  extent to what's happening around me.
• 1:10:05
  But then everything above the level of my eyes is completely,
• 1:10:09
  you know, into chaos and 99% of the time I would see this duck
• 1:10:14
  shadow creature at the door and When it's like, it's it became
• 1:10:21
  the sort of like a relationship, where if I see them, if I see
• 1:10:26
  it, they will turn around, and come towards me, and then sit on
• 1:10:32
  my chest. And I discovered that this is
• 1:10:35
  actually has a name in German folklore.
• 1:10:38
  It's called the Maga. I know if you've, if you've
• 1:10:41
  heard of it wear something sits on you and kind of like, you
• 1:10:47
  know, is hurting you or wants to do.
• 1:10:49
  Something and that is where the name of nightmare actually came
• 1:10:53
  from originally. It was like, I can't pronounce
• 1:10:57
  it in German but it's like Nick Maga which is like the night
• 1:11:01
  creatures that desires mother. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:05
  So so basically like it's an it's a description of something
• 1:11:09
  that people used to see or experience or whatever where
• 1:11:12
  they would see the shadowy figure and it would literally
• 1:11:16
  come and sit on their chest. People, people, people tend to
• 1:11:20
  call it sleep, paralysis demon and for a long time, I didn't I
• 1:11:25
  didn't believe in it because my experience is sleep, paralysis
• 1:11:28
  started. When I think I was 9 or 10, I
• 1:11:32
  was staying over at my father's house and I was sleep.
• 1:11:36
  I'm in both sleeping on because he didn't have a, you know,
• 1:11:39
  wasn't didn't have a lot of money back then.
• 1:11:42
  So I would sleep in the living room on a sofa and they sleep in
• 1:11:46
  the bed and stuff and don't worry it was It was perfectly
• 1:11:48
  comfortable - but it wasn't. It was like it was leather and I
• 1:11:53
  remember my face was like stuck to it like I couldn't okay and
• 1:11:58
  so a, but here's the thing, I thought I was awake because I
• 1:12:01
  didn't know what it was and I just couldn't lift my head up.
• 1:12:04
  Like I was trying to forcefully push my head up and I was
• 1:12:06
  terrified and then I realized it was in the dream but I still
• 1:12:10
  felt quite even when I was awake like quite heavy, you know,
• 1:12:15
  like, you know, there's a lot of weight to it. anyway, fast
• 1:12:19
  forward to again, Estonia This is the only time I've ever
• 1:12:25
  experienced this in my life and the only time.
• 1:12:28
  Yeah. That I've never experienced this
• 1:12:29
  since then. So, I'm sleeping on.
• 1:12:35
  Like a sofa is not comfortable at all, but you know, whatever.
• 1:12:40
  And I always sleep on my side, I've learned over the years.
• 1:12:47
  That one way to combat sleep paralysis is to sleep on your
• 1:12:50
  side, never sleep on your back back because citizen.
• 1:12:54
  Yeah, because apparently is worse.
• 1:12:57
  I don't know. And I've started doing that and
• 1:12:59
  it does help quite a lot. It's reduced it.
• 1:13:01
  Yeah, This particular place it was, I don't know.
• 1:13:05
  I was sometimes I'd sleep on my back and this one particular
• 1:13:09
  night. I remember this figure.
• 1:13:14
  Same thing sitting on my chest. She resemble it was a woman.
• 1:13:20
  She resembled the woman out of the ring if you've ever seen,
• 1:13:22
  you know. Okay.
• 1:13:23
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:24
  Hair and her face white. Yeah.
• 1:13:26
  Sounds scary. You know?
• 1:13:29
  And I it was the only time that I felt any like she sat on me
• 1:13:34
  like Australia me but not in a fun way like in a like I'm gonna
• 1:13:37
  kill you way and she was choking me.
• 1:13:40
  Yeah. And I remember Being like
• 1:13:42
  terrifies. I just I didn't know what to do
• 1:13:46
  and then I just suddenly woke up and is a middle of the night and
• 1:13:50
  I was like, what the fuck was that?
• 1:13:53
  Yeah. Well I live that for years.
• 1:13:56
  She look at what do you think that is just on mine fucking
• 1:14:02
  with us or is that something paranormal?
• 1:14:05
  Because there's so many theories on this and I don't know what to
• 1:14:07
  believe. Yeah, of course.
• 1:14:08
  I mean that's that's the thing because like Okay, if you want
• 1:14:11
  to say it's only like the mind or psychology or something like
• 1:14:15
  that, but I mean, there wasn't an actual.
• 1:14:19
  Like it's not like a pattern in a way like if I'm as if I was
• 1:14:21
  having a bad day, I would go through something like that.
• 1:14:25
  If I'm extremely tired, just like a random random and it's
• 1:14:29
  like everyone describes it the same way, you know what I mean?
• 1:14:32
  Like, everyone talks about seeing a shadowy figure feeling
• 1:14:36
  that fear sitting on your chest, all that like I would get to
• 1:14:40
  away with. At a point where I need to wake
• 1:14:43
  myself up when this thing is on me, and I remember, like, I
• 1:14:47
  always do this, you should do this work.
• 1:14:50
  I would just like, like take it all in accept, what's happening,
• 1:14:54
  right? And then just like kind of
• 1:14:55
  gathered all my power and all my strength and then like I would
• 1:14:59
  wake myself up. Like I would make a sound in
• 1:15:03
  real life. Like I would like scream in a
• 1:15:05
  way or like to kind of like wake myself up, but it would carry on
• 1:15:09
  for like a minute or two. Where I'm just sitting there and
• 1:15:12
  I'm taking it all in, like this. Like, it feels like I'm getting
• 1:15:15
  beaten, but I'm like, I'm just gonna, you know, gathered all my
• 1:15:19
  strength, all my thing. And then wake myself up.
• 1:15:22
  And I've read this thing like one time, one time I tried it
• 1:15:27
  and it worked because it happened recently.
• 1:15:28
  And again, this is you want to call paranormal, you want to
• 1:15:32
  call it imagination. Do you make whatever doesn't
• 1:15:34
  matter. But I've read that you can
• 1:15:37
  actually segue this into an out-of-body experience.
• 1:15:40
  Have you I heard of that or know what about of body extends.
• 1:15:44
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  One time I had what I can only describe as like astral
• 1:15:50
  projection. I'm a for many years growing up.
• 1:15:53
  I had the falling dream where I went.
• 1:15:56
  I felt like I landed in my bed or something.
• 1:15:58
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Landing in your bed.
• 1:16:01
  Yeah. So out of body is literally like
• 1:16:04
  you, you jump out of your body. So I've had people, you know,
• 1:16:07
  talk about it and it but I had never experienced that
• 1:16:10
  personally. Myself and I read that if you go
• 1:16:15
  through sleep sleep, paralysis, try to move that into and out of
• 1:16:20
  black. Do certain steps in terms of
• 1:16:22
  like, you know, not calming yourself down because at like,
• 1:16:26
  you start knowing where you are you start knowing you're going
• 1:16:29
  through a steeper line. So it's no longer just fear of
• 1:16:31
  the unknown, it's kind of like I know I'm going through this.
• 1:16:34
  If it happens so many times, like eventually it became a
• 1:16:36
  habit to me. So this was only like maybe last
• 1:16:42
  Earlier this year or something. Where I had met about it.
• 1:16:44
  That if you feel the sleep paralysis coming in, move your
• 1:16:49
  body in a specific way. Move yourself in a specific way,
• 1:16:52
  breathe think about certain and then you know, kick you jump out
• 1:16:57
  of your body and it actually did happen.
• 1:16:59
  I don't know how to explain it or if I was dreaming or
• 1:17:02
  whatever. But what was crazy is that so
• 1:17:06
  I'm in bed and I'm feeling like my whole body's shaking and
• 1:17:10
  that, you know, This, the fear and the paralysis and
• 1:17:13
  everything's good again and I was like, okay okay, you know
• 1:17:16
  what just let me try it. Let me try to see if it works.
• 1:17:19
  Then you just do it and I kind of like pushed myself out and
• 1:17:23
  when I pushed myself out I immediately looked down and I
• 1:17:27
  saw I was sleeping like I saw the bed and it was night just
• 1:17:32
  like when and it was you know, in real life it was night and
• 1:17:36
  everything I was doing was so calm to so-called I didn't even
• 1:17:40
  feel anything in my body. You and I was like, holy shit
• 1:17:44
  like it's actually I think it's happening and then like I got
• 1:17:47
  scared from that, thoughts that it's actually happening that I
• 1:17:51
  decided like, I just threw myself into my body and I woke
• 1:17:55
  up in real life. And I woke up and I was like,
• 1:17:58
  and it was night and it was everything.
• 1:18:00
  And I was like, is that it like, is that it that, that just
• 1:18:03
  happened? I don't know, because I also saw
• 1:18:05
  like there were other things in the bedroom and I saw them like,
• 1:18:09
  it's like a top view of of my bedroom and I saw things work on
• 1:18:13
  the floor, you know, when you throw like your sock or whatever
• 1:18:15
  and everything and it was, there it all happened, like, within
• 1:18:20
  five ten seconds. And then, you know, it ended, it
• 1:18:24
  was like and dislike vocalist was doing.
• 1:18:25
  I was like, that's, you know, like, I don't know, you know, I
• 1:18:29
  don't know what just happened. It's like, I want to know more.
• 1:18:33
  I won't understand that. I want to ask people about it,
• 1:18:36
  but a lot of people have talked about this.
• 1:18:39
  They have a lot of the they've mentioned, Out-of-body they have
• 1:18:42
  mentioned, segueing from a sleep paralysis to that states.
• 1:18:47
  So, you know, I don't know, I don't know, it's feels like
• 1:18:50
  there's something there. You know what I mean?
• 1:18:51
  Like something that you can't really describe.
• 1:18:55
  You can't really convince anyone with such a personal experience.
• 1:18:59
  Something, so deep that, you know, whether it happened or
• 1:19:04
  not, you know what I mean? It's crazy but I just But
• 1:19:09
  whenever I try to do that as well, like one of the most
• 1:19:11
  terrifying aspects of sleep paralysis and I kind of detailed
• 1:19:15
  this before. But is this idea of just not
• 1:19:18
  being able to move like I try, I really try to move my body and
• 1:19:22
  just get it going. Yeah, I just nothing seems to
• 1:19:26
  work until that moment when you wake up and it's and you wonder
• 1:19:32
  sometimes, like, am I going to wake up?
• 1:19:34
  I'm gonna yeah, you know because it's not for sure.
• 1:19:39
  Scary stuff. And he also won the like just on
• 1:19:42
  from a biological point of view. Like, if there is, why would the
• 1:19:48
  body goes through something like this?
• 1:19:49
  You know what I mean? So even like, if we, if we not
• 1:19:53
  gonna talk Supernatural, paranormal that there's
• 1:19:55
  something out there outside of our body.
• 1:19:59
  Why would your body make you like?
• 1:20:01
  It has no benefit to you from on any survival level, you know
• 1:20:05
  what I mean? So it does beg the question as
• 1:20:08
  to To, why would you do that or do him in general?
• 1:20:12
  Like for example, there's so many people in the world
• 1:20:14
  experience it. I think it's just like a I think
• 1:20:20
  it's a scientific thing. I don't believe in the in the
• 1:20:25
  Paranormal aspect of it, I think that's just looking at mind
• 1:20:28
  messing with you. Not because I'm not open to the
• 1:20:31
  concept, just that like I've experienced both and they both
• 1:20:35
  felt the same. So I mean, I think in that
• 1:20:38
  instance, where I felt that presence, I think it was more My
• 1:20:44
  body, like jolting or something, I don't know.
• 1:20:47
  Like then again I don't know. It really didn't feel like a
• 1:20:50
  pretty felt like a weight on me. Yeah.
• 1:20:53
  And there was no one in the room so I don't know.
• 1:20:57
  That's when we'd like to rationalize these things.
• 1:20:59
  Yeah. Looking for a physical reason
• 1:21:02
  for the non-physical. That's the point.
• 1:21:05
  And I think Humanity has been trying to do that for as long as
• 1:21:09
  we have existed. Let's move it on.
• 1:21:14
  So you're an entrepreneur and you got, you got an app, you got
• 1:21:18
  a background in brand identity in advertising.
• 1:21:21
  So, that's one of a kind of explore this a little bit.
• 1:21:23
  So, what would you say? Are the key aspects of brand
• 1:21:25
  identity that everyone should know?
• 1:21:29
  Well, I mean, I think one of the most important things is
• 1:21:33
  understanding the world. We live in today.
• 1:21:35
  That it's not the same as before when it comes to how people see
• 1:21:40
  your brand. How they interact with your
• 1:21:42
  brand, how personal they feel to it like before it was more of.
• 1:21:48
  Well, this is the only thing that's available.
• 1:21:49
  So I'm going to go for it. This is now it's more like what
• 1:21:52
  speaks to me more than others? So, like to me, when it comes to
• 1:21:56
  any new brand that starts, I always go for understanding
• 1:22:03
  Like, You Know, Carl Jung's personality, the personality
• 1:22:08
  types, and know that the archetypes And I feel like this
• 1:22:14
  is the new way to kind of approach.
• 1:22:16
  Anything? Like even whether you're
• 1:22:18
  creating your own van, or you're working for someone else's
• 1:22:21
  brand, to kind of understand who you are.
• 1:22:24
  What is the personality that you give off?
• 1:22:27
  What is that, you want? Ask who you're talking to, who
• 1:22:32
  is your target, but not just in terms of like age, group, or
• 1:22:36
  culture. I'm talking who these people are
• 1:22:39
  because within the age group to have a Different type of people.
• 1:22:42
  You have people who are looking for this, something like that,
• 1:22:45
  they want to speak to you, they won't understand you.
• 1:22:47
  They want to know that they are being understood and so on.
• 1:22:51
  So to me when it comes to that like The Branding is definitely
• 1:22:55
  not, you know your logo or any visual, it's more like this over
• 1:23:02
  encompassing thing, you know like well what does it speak?
• 1:23:06
  What who does it speak to? How do you want to approach it?
• 1:23:10
  And that Makes things so much easier is if you like, for
• 1:23:13
  example, when I, when I created my coffee shop, okay.
• 1:23:17
  Vince Nest, just the name. When we came up with the name
• 1:23:21
  and we post it on Instagram first before the logo before
• 1:23:25
  everything, we immediately got a call from someone like asking.
• 1:23:28
  Hey, so do you have like Harry Potter stuff and all that?
• 1:23:32
  And I was like, like I didn't even post anything and someone
• 1:23:36
  already understood where I'm going with this.
• 1:23:38
  I mean, like, the brand is sold. Self before I even told them
• 1:23:43
  anything so that to me is the mark of a good brand or a good
• 1:23:48
  start basically. Okay.
• 1:23:50
  This kind of ties into my point. My next question is, you kind of
• 1:23:53
  already half on step but what would you say are the main
• 1:23:56
  differences between a positive brand identity and a negative
• 1:24:00
  brand identity? So I guess we'll focus more on
• 1:24:02
  the negative side of things for now.
• 1:24:04
  Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
• 1:24:05
  Like like, I think - Grant is something that is still stuck in
• 1:24:09
  the past like he still doesn't Understand, like I said, the
• 1:24:13
  world that we live in today, it doesn't necessarily mean how it
• 1:24:16
  looks, but it's mostly about how it communicates like, you know
• 1:24:19
  how, for example, for a while. Like we had, you had this
• 1:24:23
  Wendy's account on Twitter who are like, they would just like,
• 1:24:27
  tall everyone and me and all that, like that to me, is
• 1:24:30
  someone who understands to this work.
• 1:24:32
  You know, like it shows that it's not like oh, you know,
• 1:24:36
  we're not supposed to talk like this using that language or
• 1:24:38
  we're not supposed to trash our custom, not yours.
• 1:24:41
  Supposed to communicate whatever it is you're supposed whatever
• 1:24:44
  the word is in now. You know like be self-aware.
• 1:24:47
  Be understand that. You know no one sees Brands
• 1:24:54
  today. Like they used to before way
• 1:24:56
  like this all these perfect congregations that you know like
• 1:24:59
  know exactly what we want and we're gonna sell it to us.
• 1:25:02
  No no everyone now is like oh I got this is you know this brand
• 1:25:06
  is messing up here they doing this bad they're not
• 1:25:09
  communicating well and so on and so on. and so, just I think this
• 1:25:14
  a lot here, especially in the Arab world, like the Arab world
• 1:25:16
  is still a step behind when it comes to be self-aware.
• 1:25:21
  You know what I've been like, just kind of taking it taking it
• 1:25:24
  easy, except that things have changed understand the youth
• 1:25:30
  better, whether it was gen Z, whether it was the meals with
• 1:25:34
  all that stuff. So, yeah, I think it's a very
• 1:25:37
  bad thing. When a brand is still stuck in
• 1:25:40
  the old ways like the old ways communication.
• 1:25:42
  They is red that that's definitely a recipe for
• 1:25:45
  disaster. You know what's kind of leads me
• 1:25:46
  into my next question. What do you think the future
• 1:25:50
  holds for the brand identity space?
• 1:25:52
  Where do you think we're headed in the future with the
• 1:25:55
  Definitely more, like, what they say, user-generated content.
• 1:25:59
  Like, I think that is definitely the future that is gonna sell
• 1:26:03
  itself. Like it's the more Brands,
• 1:26:06
  accept their the customer base, the more that they allow them to
• 1:26:10
  express themselves within your grand, the more it's going to
• 1:26:14
  access to other people, that's how I see it.
• 1:26:16
  I think it's everything is headed in our direction to be
• 1:26:21
  much more personal. Like, I need like why, for
• 1:26:24
  example, Someone chooses PlayStation versus an Xbox.
• 1:26:27
  It's not because they have different games and all that,
• 1:26:29
  like, this is like a thing of the past.
• 1:26:31
  It's about like this. This thing you have presented to
• 1:26:33
  me, or not. This is it, it's all about
• 1:26:36
  representation, it's all about work.
• 1:26:37
  I see myself. Why do I go to this restaurant?
• 1:26:40
  Other than this, when they both sell me, you know, the same
• 1:26:42
  burger, for example, it's because I see myself in that
• 1:26:45
  space more, that's what gets me to tell my friends to go with me
• 1:26:49
  to that space, so on, and so on. So everyone is selling the Like
• 1:26:55
  even phones. For example, like everyone has
• 1:26:57
  basically the same stuff like when you look at, you know, I've
• 1:27:00
  not the say not Apple but between Samsung and Google.
• 1:27:05
  So the same phone, you know what I mean?
• 1:27:06
  At the end of the day but it's the brand that I'm going after.
• 1:27:09
  It's the brand that feels represents me.
• 1:27:12
  That's what so this is the future is definitely much more
• 1:27:15
  user into integrated work, understanding them.
• 1:27:22
  And yeah, that's how I see it. And move it onto advertising.
• 1:27:27
  What would you say? Are the key aspects of
• 1:27:28
  advertising? Their everyone should know.
• 1:27:33
  That's what I think. I think I think people need to.
• 1:27:39
  I think we kind of like as consumers that whenever I get
• 1:27:41
  any project advertising and I think about it from a consumer
• 1:27:46
  point of view first, and I feel like I'm tired from being told
• 1:27:53
  to buy something. You know what I mean?
• 1:27:55
  Like, it's so saturated all the time by this by this.
• 1:27:58
  This is better for you. This is better for you.
• 1:28:00
  So, it's advertising is of. I feel like it's a weird place
• 1:28:05
  right now because with the guise of social media and how brands
• 1:28:10
  have embraced it and you know stuck to it, you can feel that
• 1:28:15
  they'll not selling you the product anymore that they
• 1:28:18
  selling you the experience, you know, like like they just have
• 1:28:23
  like specifications may be at the bottom or something of a
• 1:28:25
  specific product or whatever. But it's mostly about how you
• 1:28:29
  all feeling. When when you, when you buy
• 1:28:32
  something how you are and that to me feels like a very
• 1:28:36
  different approach than it was before when it came to
• 1:28:39
  advertising before. It was like, you need this
• 1:28:42
  because we are the best or we are the only one doing it
• 1:28:45
  because you have a problem that we found the solution for in of
• 1:28:49
  that. Now, it's all about emotions,
• 1:28:51
  how do you feel when you when you buy our product?
• 1:28:55
  What does it give you in terms of social status in terms of
• 1:28:59
  emotions emotions? Terms of so, yeah, I think, I
• 1:29:03
  think it's much more emotional. It kind of works together will
• 1:29:07
  live the brand itself, like with how everything is going.
• 1:29:10
  More personal advertising is also driving that, and you kind
• 1:29:16
  of already answered this. But and I imagine most of us
• 1:29:19
  listening already kind of know where this is headed.
• 1:29:21
  But what where do you think the future of advertising is?
• 1:29:25
  Yeah, it's what I said. It's again, it's following the
• 1:29:30
  branch. And following what people feel
• 1:29:35
  when they get when they have your product.
• 1:29:38
  That emotion. That that's why I think of a
• 1:29:41
  koala was always, like a very, like, a trendsetter and was
• 1:29:45
  always at this, you know, sleeping when it comes to this,
• 1:29:50
  like we're talking 20 30, 40 years ago, like they were not
• 1:29:54
  selling you the water to drink, the whatever it has in it, they
• 1:29:58
  were selling you, the experience you get So when you do that, you
• 1:30:02
  know what I mean. So I think they were like they
• 1:30:04
  really saw the future and I feel like now everyone is headed in
• 1:30:08
  that direction and it will continue going there.
• 1:30:11
  It's it's emotions, it's emotions.
• 1:30:13
  It's what matters to everyone right now.
• 1:30:17
  And what advice could you give to aspiring entrepreneurs?
• 1:30:26
  Well, I mean there's something that bad at all ways to lose me
• 1:30:30
  when it comes to seeing new people entrepreneurs or whatever
• 1:30:34
  is that seeing what the trend is and then jumping on the
• 1:30:37
  bandwagon. Like I feel like the worst thing
• 1:30:40
  you can do, you know what I mean?
• 1:30:42
  Like here and began. So only like two or three months
• 1:30:46
  ago, there's a new trend of, you know, the tennis pedal that
• 1:30:53
  small. It's like a, it's like a spa.
• 1:30:55
  It's of tennis but smaller and it has like a sort of limited S
• 1:31:01
  mix between tennis and squash that name.
• 1:31:06
  So no table tennis. No, no, no, no itself.
• 1:31:10
  It's a tennis court, but a bit smaller, okay.
• 1:31:13
  And, you know, people play them, it's for someone.
• 1:31:16
  It's for people who don't want to learn tennis because it's
• 1:31:19
  Advanced and don't want to play, you know, table tennis, it's
• 1:31:22
  somewhere in the middle but fragments in it.
• 1:31:25
  Between it's a second badminton, but a tennis so it's like the
• 1:31:28
  size of a badminton court, okay. And it's called the paddle
• 1:31:32
  tennis paddle and and like, because of the trend.
• 1:31:38
  It tell you that that's around, 19, chords opened in this
• 1:31:43
  country where people are going and playing and everything and
• 1:31:47
  Texas. The guys was like 2,000 percent
• 1:31:50
  or something in interest and and, and all that.
• 1:31:53
  And now three to four Slater you the ante, the completely empty.
• 1:31:58
  It's like a lot of these entrepreneurs, so that all now
• 1:32:02
  everyone is interested in best. Let me open the code.
• 1:32:05
  Let me open a space. Let me give this a done now.
• 1:32:08
  Literally, literally six months later, it's gone.
• 1:32:10
  It's gone like no one is going anymore.
• 1:32:13
  That to me is the issue with with following the trend and
• 1:32:17
  jumping on the bandwagon because you're supposed to think what is
• 1:32:21
  missing in the market. Like where is the gap?
• 1:32:24
  I'm gonna go there. You know what I mean?
• 1:32:25
  And even if it's a risk, even if it's a Financial Risk, it's a
• 1:32:29
  risk. Your reputation is whatever.
• 1:32:31
  It's a risk. That's, that's the idea of
• 1:32:35
  starting something. When I opened the, the Raven's
• 1:32:38
  Nest, for example, the the Board Game Cafe, there was no one in
• 1:32:41
  behind like this. No one in the country had this
• 1:32:44
  and because we did it first and because we did so.
• 1:32:48
  Well, other places try to copy and they try to do something
• 1:32:53
  like this, but they will always Compared to us, you know what I
• 1:32:56
  mean? Like we would hear people saying
• 1:32:59
  like oh so you're like that place.
• 1:33:01
  Are you like the Ravens? Nice.
• 1:33:02
  And then like eventually it stopped going and they steeple
• 1:33:06
  stops going and they don't have customers and all that because
• 1:33:09
  it didn't feel as authentic as the first one who does it, you
• 1:33:12
  know? Like like when you're passionate
• 1:33:14
  about something and you put everything in it and to me it
• 1:33:17
  was never about making money like it.
• 1:33:19
  I didn't open that place to make money.
• 1:33:21
  I opened that place because I needed to surround myself with
• 1:33:24
  people. People who are like me, who I
• 1:33:26
  love people, I love talking to them getting to know their
• 1:33:29
  stories teaching them the games, you know just seeing how happy
• 1:33:33
  they are. This to me is the reason why I
• 1:33:36
  made that guys like I still have my job.
• 1:33:37
  I still have other things going on.
• 1:33:39
  Wow, really? Yeah to me that place is pure.
• 1:33:44
  It exists for my mental state, you know what I mean?
• 1:33:47
  But how do you have the time to run a cafe and work full-time?
• 1:33:52
  Very difficult. But I do it.
• 1:33:56
  But would you did? Yeah.
• 1:33:57
  Share the time with your wife or something like that.
• 1:34:01
  X naught. So for like, I have a full-time
• 1:34:07
  job. Okay.
• 1:34:08
  And I, when I opened the place, I took six months off from the,
• 1:34:14
  from the job I was in, I was completely devoted to the to the
• 1:34:17
  coffee shop, to get it up and running to get it like, you
• 1:34:20
  know, automated in a way set the tone for the customers,
• 1:34:23
  understand where we are, what? Do we do and all that stuff?
• 1:34:26
  And once it turns itself, in terms of operation, I just I
• 1:34:31
  went back to my job, I have a full-time job and once like, for
• 1:34:36
  example, let's say I'm done with my job.
• 1:34:39
  I you know, get myself in the car, go to that place.
• 1:34:42
  Everything's okay. Sit with people talk to them,
• 1:34:45
  stay till like 11 or 12 and then go back home and all that it
• 1:34:49
  didn't even feel like a job to me, you know what I mean?
• 1:34:51
  It didn't feel like, oh, I don't want to go.
• 1:34:54
  I'm tired. And Because I enjoy it so much
• 1:34:57
  that sometimes, I like I spoke with my current employer, that I
• 1:35:01
  would actually take my laptop, go to the coffee shop and work
• 1:35:04
  from there, as class monitor things and all that.
• 1:35:11
  Yeah, yeah. So so it's just because it's
• 1:35:14
  such a passion for me. It doesn't feel like, like, I'm
• 1:35:17
  tired. And it takes most of my time and
• 1:35:19
  all that, but it doesn't matter to me.
• 1:35:21
  I like it. See you, yo, Your job is working
• 1:35:27
  in Digital Arts that correct like creating art.
• 1:35:31
  It's an not know. It's mostly, I'm a senior.
• 1:35:36
  So it's basically like social media and design, and branding,
• 1:35:40
  and logos, and everything. So, bit of everything.
• 1:35:43
  Okay. Well, took us through your
• 1:35:45
  process of working with clients to create digital or to help
• 1:35:49
  them with their brand identities.
• 1:35:53
  Yeah, so like I said before, so basically the first thing that
• 1:35:58
  comes to when it's a it's a new brand.
• 1:36:00
  For example, is making sure that the client knows what brand he
• 1:36:05
  has or what he wants. So they would come and say, for
• 1:36:09
  example, okay, so we want to open this kind of restaurant,
• 1:36:12
  okay? The restaurant, but I sit with
• 1:36:15
  them, understand from them through certain, you know,
• 1:36:18
  questions to certain, you know, exercises and stuff.
• 1:36:21
  Like that, like, who is their target?
• 1:36:24
  What do they see themselves as and so on?
• 1:36:27
  And then, once we both have that clear, and we both agree on it,
• 1:36:31
  that's when we move to the visual States.
• 1:36:33
  So creating mood boards, understanding the style of it,
• 1:36:38
  the colors, who are we targeting?
• 1:36:40
  And so on with this stuff moving on from that we go to the
• 1:36:44
  creation of the logo itself. Several options, have a good
• 1:36:48
  stuff. We create that again with the
• 1:36:51
  logo. The entire brand.
• 1:36:52
  So I make sure I make the client understand that your logo is not
• 1:36:56
  the brand, your logo is a very small communication device, but
• 1:37:00
  it's nothing compared to the Blanche.
• 1:37:02
  It's to the ground. So even when I present the logo,
• 1:37:05
  I have this technique work. I don't show that, like, okay,
• 1:37:08
  this girl go, I show them like, this is logo, how it's like,
• 1:37:11
  let's say, for example, it's a restaurant, right?
• 1:37:15
  So I tell them, this is how you logo to look like, on a takeaway
• 1:37:17
  cup. You know what I mean?
• 1:37:18
  It's like, it's there, you know, Because most clients don't,
• 1:37:23
  don't have the imagination. See they just but it's the logo
• 1:37:27
  I mean okay yeah it's nice to know.
• 1:37:29
  Like I completely go out as if this plant already exists and
• 1:37:33
  it's operating like once they see that even if the logo is
• 1:37:37
  crap which I don't make but you know like even if it is they
• 1:37:40
  just like completely understand it.
• 1:37:42
  So I present them like even on the detail stuff like the first
• 1:37:46
  image would show again, let's say it's a restaurant, it would
• 1:37:49
  show the It's a, the chef, in the, in the kitchen cooking but
• 1:37:54
  he has the logo on his uniform. You know what I mean?
• 1:37:57
  Like, that's how they see it. So they see that it's actually
• 1:38:00
  happening. Okay, I'm so, you know, I gotta
• 1:38:03
  ask man, have you had any like bad experiences where?
• 1:38:09
  I don't know, maybe you were pitching stuff to someone and
• 1:38:12
  they just didn't get it or like, I don't know.
• 1:38:14
  They would maybe this is a better one, so they asked you to
• 1:38:18
  create something for them, which is just like ridiculous.
• 1:38:21
  Yes, or, you know, is going to be shit or something like that.
• 1:38:24
  Like generally expect stories, you can tell us about clients.
• 1:38:27
  You've worked with got a salmon that back.
• 1:38:30
  I've been doing this for like I'm 13 years now so you can
• 1:38:32
  imagine the amount of different clients and different.
• 1:38:36
  Yeah, I've had I've had stuff but my issue is not a destroyed.
• 1:38:40
  Like when they because when at the start they tell me what they
• 1:38:43
  want and I tell them. Okay.
• 1:38:45
  So I'm going to give you an option of what you want.
• 1:38:47
  Then I'm going to give you like two or three options of what I
• 1:38:49
  want, what I think is better and so on.
• 1:38:51
  Problem comes towards the end because it's like, after the
• 1:38:54
  creative process and after you, you're done being so, you know,
• 1:38:58
  happy and I was creating and everything is one, that's when
• 1:39:01
  the comment starts. But yeah, we wanted to add the
• 1:39:04
  entire identity is based on it, being organs, for example, but
• 1:39:08
  still like you'll get what does it different?
• 1:39:10
  You know, it's not so much and it just kills everything.
• 1:39:12
  So towards the end, let's say were several clients.
• 1:39:15
  What I told them, let you know, like I'll give you this but I'm
• 1:39:19
  not going to even put it on my portfolio.
• 1:39:20
  Like I'm gonna be very This with you, this is not something that
• 1:39:23
  I'm proud of is not that. That Honesty covariance getting
• 1:39:27
  paid or anything so they can't go back.
• 1:39:29
  But yeah it's like it's you know, I've definitely had work
• 1:39:33
  done like where I wasn't proud of it at all.
• 1:39:36
  It's just reaches a stage where you know like the file is named
• 1:39:40
  you know, final final one to finally like you know how many
• 1:39:43
  times we went through that. Yeah.
• 1:39:46
  It's a disaster. It's sometimes I go through
• 1:39:49
  really bad. That's why I kind of create Like
• 1:39:52
  my stuff like on my Instagram page or stuff like it's a place
• 1:39:56
  for me where I can be unbelievably creative and just
• 1:39:59
  the way I want things, you know. And it took me a long time to
• 1:40:03
  disconnect and I think a lot of people in my field don't have
• 1:40:07
  that I don't have it yet because I had to learn it you know for a
• 1:40:12
  long time it took me a long time to learn what I need to
• 1:40:14
  disconnect personally from what I'm giving you know, because my
• 1:40:19
  field takes so much personal work.
• 1:40:22
  Everything is about me and how I am putting, you know, part of me
• 1:40:26
  into every design. I create every idea, I came up
• 1:40:29
  with, it literally comes from me and I needed to accept that
• 1:40:34
  that's not going to go through that client.
• 1:40:36
  Has a different Vision, so on and so on.
• 1:40:39
  And just accept the idea that, you know, I do this for money.
• 1:40:43
  I do this as a job as a career, but it does not, you know,
• 1:40:47
  reflect who I am. So I need to express myself in
• 1:40:51
  different Areas. But I do need to express myself
• 1:40:54
  that's key as well. So it's not just about
• 1:40:56
  understanding. I need to disconnect know I
• 1:40:58
  because there's a part of me that needs to express, so I
• 1:41:01
  might as well just do it in places where no one can tell me
• 1:41:04
  that change the this colored purple to Blue, for example, or
• 1:41:08
  whatever. You know, what I mean?
• 1:41:09
  Very sensible. That's very sensible.
• 1:41:14
  What's the biggest life lesson that you've learned so far?
• 1:41:20
  That's a heavy one. I think this game recently very
• 1:41:27
  reasons, I think that One of the biggest things I've learned is
• 1:41:34
  that I can't control everything in my life.
• 1:41:39
  It's that, that idea to let go and accept that there are things
• 1:41:47
  that I have no power of over, is definitely one of the hardest.
• 1:41:53
  And one of the recent most recent things that that I've
• 1:41:57
  learned. And I've learned that Very
• 1:42:01
  difficult, you know, it's went through something very
• 1:42:04
  difficult. But, you know, as as they say
• 1:42:06
  that's what the universe does. Like, it keeps pushing you in
• 1:42:09
  the same because I there's this pattern in my life that keeps
• 1:42:12
  happening and keeps happening and all that.
• 1:42:14
  And it had to be that it had to be this to let go of this
• 1:42:20
  control that I have, because I don't have control over other
• 1:42:24
  people of things that happen. Just, it's not so much
• 1:42:28
  acceptance because I feel like that's small of toxic
• 1:42:31
  positivity. Like everything happens, you
• 1:42:33
  know, it's happy. We're happy.
• 1:42:34
  No, no. I'm okay with being upset.
• 1:42:36
  I'm okay with being angry being sad, reacting to different
• 1:42:41
  things. No problem.
• 1:42:43
  I embrace all the emotions, but to kind of let go.
• 1:42:47
  Yeah, that to me is my biggest life lesson.
• 1:42:52
  Thanks for sharing. Thank you.
• 1:42:54
  As we draw things to a close for today.
• 1:42:56
  Do you have any upcoming projects or final thoughts that
• 1:42:58
  you had to sleep with our listeners?
• 1:43:01
  I do have an thought that that makes people Go Hmmm.
• 1:43:06
  As I said at the start and it is related to, you know, the topics
• 1:43:11
  I discuss on my podcast and all that stuff.
• 1:43:12
  So I would yeah whatever. Yeah, but you stay.
• 1:43:17
  So you know how? Because I discuss ideas on my
• 1:43:22
  podcast about ancient civilizations, ancient
• 1:43:25
  mythologies, have we encountered anything of Alien or
• 1:43:33
  extraterrestrial, something not from this reality, something not
• 1:43:36
  from this Earth and so on, and so on.
• 1:43:38
  And this is this question that I haven't seen anyone asked, to be
• 1:43:43
  honest. So I don't have an answer for
• 1:43:45
  it, but I will leave that with you.
• 1:43:48
  So I believe based on different thoughts and ideas.
• 1:43:51
  I believe that at some point Humanity was kind of basically
• 1:43:59
  like, It to an extent on a physical and biological level.
• 1:44:04
  Okay? So if you read some of the
• 1:44:07
  ancient mythology is even the the Old Testament in the Bible,
• 1:44:11
  they talk about something within man that has been altered.
• 1:44:15
  There is a sort of like, on a very DNA level.
• 1:44:20
  We have been manipulated basically or bread if you want
• 1:44:23
  like like as if humans have been bred to a work to to a certain
• 1:44:28
  thing in the Bible they said To create it to work in the garden
• 1:44:33
  and all that stuff and other mythologies they say like for
• 1:44:36
  example, in the Sumerian mythology of the ancient gods of
• 1:44:40
  state known as the Anunnaki, they say that humans were
• 1:44:44
  created to work because the gods themselves were too tired to
• 1:44:48
  work. They were working for thousands
• 1:44:49
  of years. They got too tired, they
• 1:44:50
  rebelled against their own, you know, leaders and then you know
• 1:44:56
  someone said let's create man and you know take actually let's
• 1:44:59
  take I was on Earth as human or whatever closest is to, which is
• 1:45:03
  the homo sapiens manipulate them, get them to work.
• 1:45:08
  Of course, people say this science fiction fantasy,
• 1:45:10
  whatever, whatever mythology. But I have a question when it
• 1:45:12
  comes to mankind because Mankind, we, as a species, we
• 1:45:16
  have something which is extremely unique to us on a
• 1:45:19
  physical level and that is related to our hair.
• 1:45:24
  O'Hare, the head of about her head.
• 1:45:27
  Yes, we are the only species on the planet that has ever existed
• 1:45:34
  where our hair goes and cannot stop growing unless we cut it,
• 1:45:40
  okay? So it gives going and going
• 1:45:43
  without control until it. Everything else in our body.
• 1:45:46
  Like our eyebrows, the hair on her body different areas.
• 1:45:50
  It goes to a certain length and then it stops other than the
• 1:45:53
  head. egg on her body and four men will be able to Now, there
• 1:45:58
  is no evolutionary reason for something like this to happen,
• 1:46:03
  especially with the fact that Evolution react to the
• 1:46:07
  environment around you. So, for example, we need a tool
• 1:46:11
  that is outside of our body to cut our hair.
• 1:46:16
  Okay, so that means that on a biological level, there was no
• 1:46:20
  reason for us to evolve into growing hair in this way.
• 1:46:25
  Unless something has manipulated us the only other species on the
• 1:46:30
  planet. That does that is the
• 1:46:32
  genetically manipulated sheep. A sheep will die.
• 1:46:37
  If you don't cut their hair off of the wool, but they will not
• 1:46:41
  like this. We have made them into this.
• 1:46:45
  So my question or my wondering about the hair that is on our
• 1:46:49
  head and our face is, why is it that still goes uncontrollably?
• 1:46:54
  If we were not at some point genetically, manipulated into
• 1:46:58
  that I am, what a funnel thought.
• 1:47:05
  Wow, thank you for sharing that. I think that really sets the
• 1:47:08
  tone for for your podcast and why people should listen.
• 1:47:11
  So definitely go and check the paradigm.
• 1:47:14
  If to Sergio hello baby. Thank you so much for being a
• 1:47:18
  guest on the show. It's been an absolute pleasure.
• 1:47:20
  I've really enjoyed this and I know our listeners are going to
• 1:47:22
  as well and yeah just wish you all the best in your life.
• 1:47:27
  Thank you so much for having me. I really, really enjoyed this as
• 1:47:30
  well and yeah, definitely. See you, everyone listening to
• 1:47:36
  the Christian way podcast, but as always be safe, be well and
• 1:47:40
  I'll see you in the next one.