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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers Podcast. Welcome
- 0:08Speaker 1: to the podcast today everyone. I'm here with Gary Steerman
- 0:11Speaker 1: and we have a great conversation that we're going to
- 0:13Speaker 1: have with so many interesting things that are happening as
- 0:16Speaker 1: it relates to endtime events. And this is a topic
- 0:20Speaker 1: which I think you will enjoy because it's always fun
- 0:23Speaker 1: to get into uncharted territories and sense. Gary.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Welcome, good to be here, Mondo. And we have a
- 0:29Speaker 2: subject to talk about today that goes way way back
- 0:34Speaker 2: Prophet Daniel, and he lays out the latter day world
- 0:40Speaker 2: in the most amazing way. He has beasts rising up,
- 0:44Speaker 2: and he has kings rising up and back. In November
- 0:49Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, I wrote an article which spawned a
- 0:55Speaker 2: lot of other writing to come. But November twenty twenty
- 1:00Speaker 2: I posed the question in the Prophecy Watcher, who are
- 1:04Speaker 2: ten Kings and Daniel in revelation, figuring, well, if we're
- 1:08Speaker 2: this far into the Latter Days, we ought to see
- 1:13Speaker 2: some signs of the ten Kings, and so I began
- 1:17Speaker 2: to speculate on what could they possibly be, and the
- 1:21Speaker 2: word oligarch came up, And you and I can talk
- 1:23Speaker 2: about that. But the world is being run in a
- 1:27Speaker 2: different way now than it was fifty sixty, seventy years ago.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And I think Daniel is popping into focus for us absolutely.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And I think, you know, before we get into some
- 1:38Speaker 1: of this, it's actually you bring up a good You
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- 2:25Speaker 1: little thing before we get into some of the meat
- 2:26Speaker 1: here is that if you join us in Brandson, we're
- 2:29Speaker 1: going to be in Branson December fifth through eight at
- 2:31Speaker 1: the Brands and Prophecy conference. It's going to be I
- 2:33Speaker 1: think very interesting, Gary, because here we are, we're going
- 2:37Speaker 1: to be there in December fifth, which is just a
- 2:39Speaker 1: few weeks after the election. So I imagine that the
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- 2:50Speaker 1: first week of November, and if there is even election,
- 2:54Speaker 1: you know, you hear about all this stuff that's happening,
- 2:56Speaker 1: will there be one, We'll be stolen again, et cetera,
- 2:58Speaker 1: et cetera. And so anyway, prophecywatches dot Com check it out.
- 3:01Speaker 1: If you can't make it to Branson, then you could
- 3:03Speaker 1: join us through livestream. But again, it'll be very interesting
- 3:06Speaker 1: to see how that plays out. But so going back here,
- 3:10Speaker 1: I think your article, Gary really was you started asking
- 3:14Speaker 1: questions there and you started saying, hey, and I think
- 3:16Speaker 1: it was very right that as we approach the end
- 3:20Speaker 1: of the age, we know that the Antichrist person comes
- 3:26Speaker 1: out of he comes out of a confederation of ten kings,
- 3:31Speaker 1: and we see that in Daniel chapter seven that he's
- 3:34Speaker 1: part of. It describes him as being companions and so
- 3:38Speaker 1: we know that the ten Kings offer him something. We'll
- 3:40Speaker 1: see that in a moment as well, and they make
- 3:43Speaker 1: this agreement to rule together. But even though I don't think,
- 3:46Speaker 1: and I think you would agree with me, that the
- 3:49Speaker 1: revealing of the Antichrist, according to second Thestilians two three,
- 3:52Speaker 1: happens after the rapture, we won't know who he is
- 3:55Speaker 1: for sure. We can have a lot of guesses, as
- 3:56Speaker 1: you know, people right in and people give a lot
- 3:59Speaker 1: of guesses. But the ten Kings are there prior to him.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Could I say a word about the ten Kings? And
- 4:05Speaker 2: I'm going to hand it back to you for your reaction.
- 4:08Speaker 2: And Daniel seven twenty three, there is a little phrase
- 4:13Speaker 2: that's amazing is what started me out thinking. As a
- 4:16Speaker 2: matter of fact, thus he said, the fourth piece shall
- 4:19Speaker 2: be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diversed
- 4:22Speaker 2: from all kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth,
- 4:27Speaker 2: and shall tread it down, break it pieces. The little
- 4:31Speaker 2: phrase I'm talking about is the whole earth. This has
- 4:34Speaker 2: got to be a latter latter day prophecy, because we
- 4:38Speaker 2: didn't think in terms of the whole earth until very recently,
- 4:42Speaker 2: historically speaking, and now as you look at global government,
- 4:48Speaker 2: it's a reality. You've got the satellites in global twenty
- 4:51Speaker 2: four to seven communications, you have very high speed methods
- 4:57Speaker 2: of getting around the globe, and so the whole earth
- 5:01Speaker 2: becomes a very real thing. Absolutely, and Daniel talked about it.
- 5:07Speaker 1: You know, I think this would be helpful is for
- 5:10Speaker 1: the audience. So you know, you've been teaching and studying
- 5:13Speaker 1: prophecy for fifty years, which is I just turned fifty,
- 5:17Speaker 1: So as long as I've been alive, you've been talking
- 5:19Speaker 1: about this. So I think back and maybe you can
- 5:23Speaker 1: share going back to like nineteen sixty eight, you have
- 5:28Speaker 1: the Club of Rome, and then in the early seventies
- 5:30Speaker 1: you have the Club of Rome coming out with their
- 5:33Speaker 1: ten region idea that they want to divide the world
- 5:37Speaker 1: up into ten regions in order to bring it under
- 5:41Speaker 1: a global system. So you know, many people John Walvard
- 5:46Speaker 1: and others, you know, very very well known dispensationals, they
- 5:50Speaker 1: jumped on this. They were like, this is it. This
- 5:51Speaker 1: is the ten Toes of Daniel Chapter two, Daniel, Chapter seven,
- 5:54Speaker 1: the Ten Kings. So going back then, if you don't mind, Gary,
- 5:58Speaker 1: share what has been the traditional approach to understanding the
- 6:05Speaker 1: ten toes and again with this ten region idea kind
- 6:09Speaker 1: of time. I mean, I'm sure you taught about it
- 6:11Speaker 1: back then. What's kind of the idea? You know?
- 6:15Speaker 2: When I began to teach some years ago, the United
- 6:19Speaker 2: Nations was a very big factor in the world after
- 6:23Speaker 2: World War Two. You know, there had been no such
- 6:26Speaker 2: thing as a quote unquote United Nations. And when that
- 6:29Speaker 2: came out and began to consolidate itself in ten regions,
- 6:35Speaker 2: everybody said, oh, Daniel, the prophet ten regions, you know,
- 6:38Speaker 2: and global regions. But it wasn't quite the same that,
- 6:44Speaker 2: you know, and I think people at that time recognized
- 6:47Speaker 2: that we didn't have ten kings per se. The world
- 6:53Speaker 2: was not laid out that way. We might have had
- 6:55Speaker 2: ten regions, but there was general disagreement about the power
- 6:59Speaker 2: of the regions, who controls, what how they interact, what
- 7:03Speaker 2: does finance have to play with it in this whole picture,
- 7:08Speaker 2: And so it was uncertain, you know, ten ten years ago,
- 7:13Speaker 2: became more and more certain today as we sit here,
- 7:17Speaker 2: the ten regions have resolved themselves into I think ten
- 7:22Speaker 2: strong leaders. And some of the names are known, some not.
- 7:28Speaker 2: But I think we see the idea of ten leaders
- 7:31Speaker 2: agreed emerging.
- 7:33Speaker 1: It's interesting too because you know, twenty five years ago,
- 7:38Speaker 1: I'm thirty years ago I became a Christian. So I'm
- 7:40Speaker 1: starting to read all this and I'm reading, you know,
- 7:43Speaker 1: Things to Come by Dwight Pentecost. I got, you know,
- 7:46Speaker 1: a Walverard's book about the Nations, you know, their revelation commentaries.
- 7:51Speaker 1: And so the traditional approach has always been again that
- 7:55Speaker 1: that you have the world is divided up into ten regions.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Let's say this South America region, American we have about
- 8:03Speaker 1: you know, the North American free trade. We have all
- 8:05Speaker 1: these things that are happening, whether it's Africa. You can
- 8:07Speaker 1: see the different unions, even Bricks is now the new
- 8:09Speaker 1: European Union hasts come to play, Asian Pacific Union. So
- 8:13Speaker 1: you see all these different unions and what has happened.
- 8:16Speaker 1: The Bible doesn't say that there are ten regions. It's
- 8:19Speaker 1: said that there's ten kings, ten figures. So that's very
- 8:23Speaker 1: very specific. And so in thinking about this, in analyzing, okay,
- 8:29Speaker 1: does the traditional approach is that what it says is
- 8:33Speaker 1: it said ten regions because these regions they like for example, Mexico,
- 8:39Speaker 1: United States and Canada. You know, there's no doubt that
- 8:41Speaker 1: people have talked about joining together in one unified not
- 8:44Speaker 1: only economic system, but a political system. And so the
- 8:47Speaker 1: typical approach has been, oh, eventually they're going to be
- 8:50Speaker 1: not only economically unified, they're going to be politically unified.
- 8:55Speaker 1: And then you're gonna have one king or one president
- 8:58Speaker 1: or prime minister over all three of those countries which
- 9:01Speaker 1: have now been unified under one umbrella. Well, that sounds
- 9:04Speaker 1: great on paper, but the Bible doesn't necessarily teach that.
- 9:08Speaker 1: It just says you have ten figures. And so let
- 9:10Speaker 1: me say this and then I want to pass it
- 9:11Speaker 1: back to you because one of the things that your
- 9:14Speaker 1: article was so good because you brought up the idea
- 9:17Speaker 1: that could they be technocrats, you know, leaders or people
- 9:22Speaker 1: who are using technology to influence the world, Oligarchs Technocratic oligarchs.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Oligarch means to be ruled by a few. But the
- 9:34Speaker 1: key thing when I read your article, I was like,
- 9:36Speaker 1: you know what you and I talked about. I said,
- 9:37Speaker 1: I want to run with this a little bit, and
- 9:38Speaker 1: so I began to research this and then I looked
- 9:41Speaker 1: at the Greek word basilais It's the Greek word for king.
- 9:44Speaker 1: It says you're ten kings, and so I thought, okay,
- 9:46Speaker 1: well that's pretty strong. King has a kingdom, a king
- 9:49Speaker 1: has a geographical region. So when I looked up the
- 9:52Speaker 1: word in the b Dag a lexicon, which is the
- 9:54Speaker 1: greatest lexicon, far better than strong, Strong's is old, older,
- 9:58Speaker 1: and so we just know more now than strong. But
- 10:01Speaker 1: in b Dag they look at all the uses of
- 10:04Speaker 1: the Greek words in the time before the first century,
- 10:09Speaker 1: all the way up until you know, the sixth century
- 10:11Speaker 1: or so. One of the things that they say in
- 10:14Speaker 1: there is that the Greek word basilis is not just
- 10:18Speaker 1: a king of a kingdom, but in its second entry
- 10:22Speaker 1: it says, hey, this word is used also of someone
- 10:27Speaker 1: who demonstrates unusual or transcendent power or influence. And I thought, WHOA.
- 10:35Speaker 1: So we have someone here that the Biblical interpretation doesn't
- 10:39Speaker 1: necessarily be a king over a kingdom. It can be
- 10:43Speaker 1: someone who has demonstrates unusual power or capability or influence.
- 10:48Speaker 1: That is not a leader. It's not a governmental leader.
- 10:52Speaker 2: That's a name popped into my head. Klaus Schwab. He's yes,
- 10:56Speaker 2: the on the front pages all over the world, and
- 10:59Speaker 2: he certainly has power. As you're talking I'm looking at
- 11:03Speaker 2: the Revelations, chapter seventeen, which sort of reiterates what Daniel
- 11:08Speaker 2: is saying. And there's a statement here in Revelation seventeen twelve.
- 11:14Speaker 2: The ten horns which you saw are ten kings which
- 11:19Speaker 2: have received no kingdom yet, but receive power as kings
- 11:25Speaker 2: one hour of beast. Now that says exactly what you
- 11:28Speaker 2: were talking about. They don't have authority over a nation,
- 11:32Speaker 2: but they have power.
- 11:34Speaker 1: They have authority, And just for the sake of context,
- 11:37Speaker 1: read verse thirteen, because I think that really is.
- 11:40Speaker 2: These have one mind and shall give their power and
- 11:44Speaker 2: strength on to the beast. Now, to have one mind,
- 11:49Speaker 2: there's a concept there, and you know, AI pops into
- 11:54Speaker 2: my head because everybody's talking these days about artificial intelligence,
- 12:00Speaker 2: the role that it will play in global government, which
- 12:02Speaker 2: is going to be absolutely phenomenal, and that this idea
- 12:07Speaker 2: of authority and one mind and the idea of controlling
- 12:12Speaker 2: thought on a global level is I think at the
- 12:16Speaker 2: heart of all this.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think one of the things that struck me
- 12:21Speaker 1: was again your discussion about influence or you know, these
- 12:26Speaker 1: technocratic oligarchs. Yeah, but verse twelve solves it. I mean
- 12:30Speaker 1: verse twelve Revelations seventeen says, I mean, so clearly these
- 12:35Speaker 1: are ten kings or ten figures, ten leaders. The idea
- 12:42Speaker 1: that the word I use as influencers. These are ten
- 12:45Speaker 1: people that have power and authority. As verse thirteen says
- 12:50Speaker 1: power and the word authority there can be capability. They
- 12:53Speaker 1: have power and capability. Well it says here, I mean,
- 12:57Speaker 1: I don't know how much clear it can be. They
- 13:00Speaker 1: have no kingdom. These are kings without a kingdom. That's
- 13:04Speaker 1: what's unique about them is they aren't ruling over South
- 13:07Speaker 1: America that would be a kingdom. They're not ruling over
- 13:09Speaker 1: North America that'd be a kingdom, or Asia. These are
- 13:12Speaker 1: ten kings that don't have a kingdom. And tell they
- 13:16Speaker 1: begin to rule with the Antichrist for that one hour
- 13:20Speaker 1: or you know, for the beast. But notice what it
- 13:22Speaker 1: says there, Like you said, they have one mind and
- 13:26Speaker 1: they give their power and authority over the beast. So
- 13:29Speaker 1: in thinking about an influencer, you mentioned Klaus Schwab as
- 13:31Speaker 1: an example, and we think about Klaus. You know, they
- 13:34Speaker 1: spend a billion dollars a year on promoting a world
- 13:37Speaker 1: government and other things. And here's the question. They have
- 13:41Speaker 1: fourteen hundred young global leaders and their schools over the years,
- 13:43Speaker 1: they put all that into positions of authority, you know
- 13:46Speaker 1: Trudeau example in Canada. So you have all these people
- 13:49Speaker 1: that have gone through their schooling in order to promote
- 13:51Speaker 1: a one world government system, and then they go and
- 13:53Speaker 1: they be politicians or they become a part of government,
- 13:56Speaker 1: et cetera. But what I like to think about is,
- 13:58Speaker 1: here's a guy that has tremendous power and influence and capability.
- 14:03Speaker 1: And he has said very clearly in his book The
- 14:05Speaker 1: Fourth Industrial Revolution as well as the Great Reset, that
- 14:10Speaker 1: they are going to implement their world government through technology.
- 14:14Speaker 1: So here's again we have the technocratic part of it.
- 14:16Speaker 1: But here's the question. For as much influence and power
- 14:20Speaker 1: that he has over all these different people in the world,
- 14:23Speaker 1: what's his position? Does he have a government position? No? No?
- 14:27Speaker 1: Is he is he a mayor? Is he a governor
- 14:30Speaker 1: of a state? Is he a prime minister? In zero
- 14:32Speaker 1: zero zero? He is none of these things. He is,
- 14:36Speaker 1: in one sense, an influencer or a king without a kingdom.
- 14:39Speaker 1: He's an influencer without a kingdom, without a geographical or
- 14:43Speaker 1: a governmental position. It's I find this interesting that what
- 14:47Speaker 1: you saw there as these technocratic oligarchs, goes right in
- 14:50Speaker 1: line with what we're seeing in Revelation to seventy. Now,
- 14:53Speaker 1: if we go back one hundred years, all we thought about,
- 14:56Speaker 1: or even to the time of the Club of Rome
- 14:59Speaker 1: in the fifty and sixties or seventies, all we thought
- 15:01Speaker 1: about was government officials.
- 15:03Speaker 2: That's right.
- 15:04Speaker 1: But now we're living in the age of and the
- 15:08Speaker 1: presentation I gave recently. These guys like, for example, Elon
- 15:12Speaker 1: Musk as an example, he went from twenty nine billion
- 15:15Speaker 1: of value of net worth in twenty twenty to at
- 15:19Speaker 1: the end of twenty four he's worked two hundred close
- 15:21Speaker 1: to two hundred and fifty billion. So these guys have
- 15:25Speaker 1: tremendous wealth that is beyond comprehension. And they all of
- 15:29Speaker 1: these guys Besos Page, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Schwab, not
- 15:37Speaker 1: only are they rich, wealthy, and powerful and capable, but
- 15:40Speaker 1: they are one hundred percent dedicated to technology. So let's
- 15:43Speaker 1: talk about some of those technologies. Talk about artificial intelligence.
- 15:46Speaker 1: I mean, what are the technologies that you see would
- 15:49Speaker 1: be very helpful to an antichrist.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Well, an antichrist would have to be able to control
- 15:56Speaker 2: thought that I mean that's the number one idea, this
- 15:59Speaker 2: expressed all the way the Bible and receiving that the
- 16:03Speaker 2: you know, everybody's talked about the mark of the beast forever,
- 16:07Speaker 2: and what is the mark of the beast, Well, it's
- 16:10Speaker 2: a mark of enslavement. But it seems to be something technological.
- 16:16Speaker 2: People have speculated that that mark that you receiving your
- 16:19Speaker 2: right hand, maybe something that's injected under the skin, actually
- 16:23Speaker 2: interacts with your thinking and links you electronically to a
- 16:28Speaker 2: global government. And there's essentially twenty four to seven control,
- 16:33Speaker 2: which is only one step beyond the device that we
- 16:37Speaker 2: all carry around right now. We're carrying around that device,
- 16:40Speaker 2: and we can talk to everybody, anybody in the in
- 16:42Speaker 2: the whole world. All we have to do is just
- 16:45Speaker 2: say call so and so. And one can imagine that
- 16:50Speaker 2: the Antichrist picks up on this idea and takes it
- 16:53Speaker 2: a step further using modern technology, electronics, subcutaneous implants, et cetera,
- 16:59Speaker 2: et cetera. And so when I hear about that, I
- 17:03Speaker 2: think about regulation. I think about well, when I wrote
- 17:08Speaker 2: the article, I noted that we have ten kings. Why
- 17:13Speaker 2: ten kings? And it should come as no surprise to
- 17:18Speaker 2: anybody who's read the Bible that the number ten is
- 17:21Speaker 2: used as an emblem. It means perfection of order. If
- 17:31Speaker 2: you have ten of something in the Bible, like the
- 17:34Speaker 2: ten Commandments, and that's a group. And wherever you find
- 17:38Speaker 2: tens in the Bible, you find perfection and order. In
- 17:40Speaker 2: other words, lockstep in a way. You do this because
- 17:45Speaker 2: you need to do this. You have to do this,
- 17:48Speaker 2: And that's the whole Antichrist theme which I believe is
- 17:50Speaker 2: going to come out of the consolidation of the ten kings.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Absolutely, and when we think about this scenario again, it's
- 18:00Speaker 1: to me, you know, we're doing our best to look out.
- 18:05Speaker 1: We see what the scripture says. The scripture hasn't changed, certainly,
- 18:09Speaker 1: our understanding of scripture can change. And as we look
- 18:12Speaker 1: around the world, and again I just won't remind remind people,
- 18:15Speaker 1: it does not say that there's ten regions, It doesn't
- 18:17Speaker 1: say that anywhere. It just says you have ten kings.
- 18:20Speaker 1: And as we said that, the word king can mean
- 18:23Speaker 1: someone who has unusual or transcendent, transcended. Is this idea
- 18:27Speaker 1: of beyond borders, beyond you know, organized, you know limits,
- 18:33Speaker 1: it's transcendent, it's it's beyond. It's what the word means.
- 18:35Speaker 2: And so with a whow satellites up there, twenty four
- 18:38Speaker 2: to seven borders? Who needs borders? I mean everything is
- 18:44Speaker 2: is watched over with that that characteristic perfection. You know
- 18:50Speaker 2: that we're all shooting for now global control because the
- 18:58Speaker 2: alternative is horrible. It would be global war and the
- 19:03Speaker 2: earth burning itself to a crisp. And so I think
- 19:06Speaker 2: that there's kind of a desperation in global control right now.
- 19:09Speaker 2: I believe that the leaders, though we may may think
- 19:14Speaker 2: of them as autocrats with a bad idea, they think
- 19:19Speaker 2: of themselves as saviors. They think of them so if
- 19:22Speaker 2: we don't loize this globe in a certain way and
- 19:26Speaker 2: watch the climate and watch shipping and trade and traffic
- 19:30Speaker 2: and water and oil, if we don't watch all these
- 19:33Speaker 2: things and control them one hundred percent, it's not going
- 19:36Speaker 2: to be good for us. And so they're proceeding on
- 19:39Speaker 2: that level. And that's reflected in the Bible in scripture absolutely.
- 19:44Speaker 1: And I think for people if they want to follow this,
- 19:47Speaker 1: if you go to our website propapsly watch us dot
- 19:48Speaker 1: com and you go to our article section, you know
- 19:52Speaker 1: you have your article there from November. I put your
- 19:55Speaker 1: article from November twenty twenty, you know, is there people
- 19:59Speaker 1: can look at it. And then I wrote another article
- 20:02Speaker 1: in April of twenty twenty two. Are the ten Kings
- 20:04Speaker 1: actually ten oligarchs? Right? And then I followed up with
- 20:07Speaker 1: the third article in December of twenty twenty two on
- 20:11Speaker 1: Elon Musk Rise of the Technocratic Oligarchs. But one reason
- 20:14Speaker 1: why that came up is because there was an article
- 20:18Speaker 1: that was published by Axios magazine Kramer and Snyder and
- 20:26Speaker 1: I read this article and I was like, this is
- 20:28Speaker 1: right along area is what we're thinking that They start
- 20:30Speaker 1: the article with billionaire businessman Elon Musk is wielding significant
- 20:35Speaker 1: geopolitical power with his global Internet Starlink satellites. Now, just
- 20:41Speaker 1: so people understand, he has six thousand satellites up. You know,
- 20:47Speaker 1: he obviously has his own space company. He's got a
- 20:50Speaker 1: boring company where he bores through you know, Earth and
- 20:54Speaker 1: makes tunnels and stuff. He's got Tesla, very very wealthy start.
- 21:00Speaker 1: They want upwards of thirty thousand satellites. They got six
- 21:03Speaker 1: thousand currently. You know, they have three million subscribers currently
- 21:07Speaker 1: to the Starlink satellite. This year they're testing a You
- 21:13Speaker 1: mentioned the phone. They're mentioning satellite phone so that you
- 21:16Speaker 1: can just have it on your normal phone. And that's
- 21:19Speaker 1: tremendous ability. He's got six billion dollars already in revenue
- 21:24Speaker 1: coming in for the Starlink. It's only going to get
- 21:27Speaker 1: bigger as subscribers. We were just on the cruise ship
- 21:30Speaker 1: last last week in Alaska and their Internet was provided
- 21:33Speaker 1: by Starlink. And so I mean, here you have, here's
- 21:37Speaker 1: a guy that has all of this technological capability and power.
- 21:43Speaker 1: And this is what they say. Private space companies are
- 21:47Speaker 1: meeting and often exceeding the capabilities of governments. This is
- 21:51Speaker 1: the Axios article, giving not just technological but also geopolitical
- 21:55Speaker 1: power to those who operate them. It's not just states
- 21:58Speaker 1: in space making these decisions anymore. Caitlin Johnson, a space
- 22:01Speaker 1: policy expert at the Center for Strategic and International Study,
- 22:05Speaker 1: tells Axios. They also said he remember when Elon Musk
- 22:12Speaker 1: was causing trouble because Russia cut the Internet when they
- 22:17Speaker 1: invaded Ukraine. But Elon provided Starlink to Ukraine and became
- 22:23Speaker 1: an enemy of Russia. So you have a single individual,
- 22:27Speaker 1: a private individual, now on the world Geopolitical station. And
- 22:31Speaker 1: that was the point of the article is he's wielding
- 22:34Speaker 1: significant power in geopolitics, and we go And when I
- 22:40Speaker 1: read that, I was like, well, this is exactly what
- 22:42Speaker 1: we've been talking about it.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. I'm still looking at Revelation seventeen
- 22:48Speaker 2: about the ten Horns and ten being ten kings, and
- 22:53Speaker 2: here's something that just absolutely jumps out at me. Verse
- 22:58Speaker 2: thirteen says they have one mind and shall give their
- 23:02Speaker 2: power and strength to the beast. One mind. Now wait
- 23:06Speaker 2: a minute. Let your tendency is to run on past that,
- 23:11Speaker 2: but stop and think about it. Yes, Ai, everybody talks
- 23:16Speaker 2: about a global superintelligence controlling everything, and here in this context,
- 23:22Speaker 2: they have one mind, shall give their power and strength
- 23:24Speaker 2: to the beast. And again these kings have do not
- 23:29Speaker 2: have a country there, but they have power and strength,
- 23:35Speaker 2: and they have one mind, which is actually bigger than
- 23:38Speaker 2: a country. It's a global thing. And that's what we're
- 23:42Speaker 2: looking at now.
- 23:44Speaker 1: Well, and I think, so let's like you said, let's
- 23:47Speaker 1: not let's not let's not go too fast here. Let's
- 23:49Speaker 1: let's dwell on this because power and exusia that the
- 23:53Speaker 1: idea authority or capability, and so imagine for a moment
- 23:58Speaker 1: and we know this. We know that they have no kingdom.
- 24:00Speaker 1: They will receive that authority to rule for one hour
- 24:04Speaker 1: as kings. So the word as there is as simile,
- 24:07Speaker 1: like or as if I say I have something like
- 24:09Speaker 1: an apple in my hand, Well, it doesn't mean I
- 24:11Speaker 1: have an apple. Yeah, it's as simile, and it says
- 24:15Speaker 1: here they receive authority for one hour like kings, or
- 24:18Speaker 1: as kings with the beasts. So they're not kings, but
- 24:21Speaker 1: they're like kings. And so imagine it's like, let's make
- 24:25Speaker 1: a deal, okay, between the Antichrist and the ten Kings.
- 24:27Speaker 1: And he comes and he says, okay, look, I'll let
- 24:30Speaker 1: you guys rule with me for this for this one hour,
- 24:32Speaker 1: this time of his kingdom. But I want your power
- 24:38Speaker 1: and authority. I want your power, I want your influence,
- 24:40Speaker 1: I want your capabilities. Okay, so let's make a deal.
- 24:44Speaker 1: For example, let's just go with Elon for a moment. Okay,
- 24:47Speaker 1: I need to have something to track people. I need
- 24:49Speaker 1: to have something to tract people worldwide. This is going
- 24:51Speaker 1: to be a worldwide dominated empire. We know that from
- 24:53Speaker 1: our revelation thirteen. So Elon, I want you to give
- 24:56Speaker 1: me control of your starlink and all all the things
- 25:00Speaker 1: that are set up by then, and he says, okay,
- 25:03Speaker 1: So all of a sudden boom, this antichrist figure goes
- 25:05Speaker 1: from nothing to having control over all this tracking ability
- 25:09Speaker 1: with a system that with technological system that's already been
- 25:12Speaker 1: set up by this one of the ten Kings. Secondly,
- 25:18Speaker 1: he goes to let's say, Zuckerberg, Hey, Zuckerberg, you want
- 25:22Speaker 1: to rull with me? I need you to censor control
- 25:25Speaker 1: information because we need and this is what they're already doing.
- 25:28Speaker 2: They're absolutely right right as we speak.
- 25:31Speaker 1: As we speak, so you think about the power and
- 25:34Speaker 1: the capability. So Zuckerberg has the ability to direct certain
- 25:38Speaker 1: types of information, whether it's through Instagram or Facebook. They
- 25:41Speaker 1: can like I have several people that try to send
- 25:43Speaker 1: me things and they go, hey mom, I can't send
- 25:45Speaker 1: this to Instagram. Won't let me send it. It's blocking
- 25:47Speaker 1: it for misinformation. And so think about that.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Now, how did it understand that as misinformation?
- 25:54Speaker 1: Right? Who decided that it was a single figure? So
- 25:57Speaker 1: here again you have power and influence and capability for
- 26:01Speaker 1: these people that they wield it worldwide, worldwide, and that
- 26:06Speaker 1: all this technological capability Class Schwab and others. Again they
- 26:10Speaker 1: said it were didn't do it through technology. He also
- 26:14Speaker 1: elon Musk also he's like the quintessential technocrat. He also
- 26:17Speaker 1: has neuralink right ability to have a brain interface.
- 26:23Speaker 2: In fact, rumor has it that they're much further along
- 26:26Speaker 2: with that than they're letting on that the idea of
- 26:30Speaker 2: direct contact with the human brain hooked to a global system,
- 26:37Speaker 2: a synchronous system, a global system is their goal. Well,
- 26:43Speaker 2: you know, that's like every sci fi look really is.
- 26:48Speaker 2: But it's also like the Bible because Daniel and Revelation
- 26:52Speaker 2: just merged together and that once you know what you're
- 26:55Speaker 2: looking at, suddenly it all pops into focus.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Yep, I think, and let's step back for a moment,
- 27:02Speaker 1: because again, traditions are hard to overcome, and so the
- 27:08Speaker 1: traditional approach of these of ten regions from the Club
- 27:11Speaker 1: of Rome. You know, I've seen I've seen these regions
- 27:17Speaker 1: come and go, and I'm not even saying that you
- 27:19Speaker 1: were there isn't going to be ten regions. I'm not
- 27:21Speaker 1: even saying that could be the case. But I don't
- 27:24Speaker 1: think that we can base it on scripture because the
- 27:26Speaker 1: scripture doesn't say ten regions. It says these ten, these
- 27:29Speaker 1: ten figures, these ten kings, who are kings without a kingdom.
- 27:33Speaker 1: So it would you know, it's reasonable to think in
- 27:36Speaker 1: terms of that, you know, maybe post rapture or whatever,
- 27:39Speaker 1: that the world is divided into ten regions for the
- 27:41Speaker 1: sake of organization. But it doesn't the Bible doesn't require that.
- 27:45Speaker 1: So again it could happen, but it still doesn't mean
- 27:48Speaker 1: that these ten kings are are not these oligarchs or
- 27:53Speaker 1: these technocrats as you've've been writing about, which I think
- 27:55Speaker 1: is great because when we think about that, they again
- 28:00Speaker 1: do not have a kingdom. They're not there, but they
- 28:03Speaker 1: have something to offer. I'll read to you a couple
- 28:06Speaker 1: other little things here just to show us even more.
- 28:10Speaker 1: They write this is the Axos article, or Axios however
- 28:13Speaker 1: you want to say it. As a result, the US
- 28:15Speaker 1: government has become increasingly reliant on MUSK and space X
- 28:19Speaker 1: to launch people to the International Space Station and satellites
- 28:22Speaker 1: to orbit that underpin military communications and intelligence gathering. Over time,
- 28:27Speaker 1: the list of space activities that only the US government
- 28:29Speaker 1: does or that primarily serve the government has really shrunk,
- 28:33Speaker 1: and the list of things the commercial sector is doing
- 28:35Speaker 1: has grown, says Gregory Allen, a senior fellow in the
- 28:38Speaker 1: Strategic Technologies Program at CSIS. Space X is at the
- 28:42Speaker 1: forefront of the trend, but by no means is the
- 28:45Speaker 1: only one. Space companies are increasingly providing satellite remote sensing
- 28:49Speaker 1: and high bandwidth satellite communications. So here again and Gary as,
- 28:57Speaker 1: I've been given some presentations about this for a while,
- 29:01Speaker 1: and one of the things that I mentioned was I said, hey,
- 29:06Speaker 1: this was I don't know, six eight months ago. I said,
- 29:09Speaker 1: what would happen if there was a explosion or something
- 29:14Speaker 1: on the International Space Station or some problem and they
- 29:18Speaker 1: needed a rescue. Well, the fact of the matter is
- 29:22Speaker 1: the US government, the NASA, the Space Agency, I mean,
- 29:25Speaker 1: the greatest superpower in the history of the world is
- 29:27Speaker 1: the United States. And the United States could not get
- 29:31Speaker 1: a because their space program is in flux right now,
- 29:35Speaker 1: they could not get somebody up there. So they're not
- 29:39Speaker 1: going to say, Houston, we have a problem. They're going
- 29:41Speaker 1: to say, Elon, we have a problem. So think about this.
- 29:46Speaker 1: The greatest superpower in the history of the world is
- 29:48Speaker 1: going to call a private individual who has power, capability
- 29:52Speaker 1: and influence.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Which is happening right now.
- 29:54Speaker 1: It is It's interesting. I got an article right here
- 29:57Speaker 1: from August ninth. I mean, this is just a few
- 29:59Speaker 1: days ago, and it says, you know, I put this
- 30:03Speaker 1: out there, and then I get this like this gift
- 30:06Speaker 1: two astronauts stuck in space and definitely after eight day
- 30:09Speaker 1: mission goes awry, and then it says, I'll just I
- 30:12Speaker 1: won't read the whole article here, but it says at
- 30:15Speaker 1: the moment, NASA must decide whether the star Liner, which
- 30:18Speaker 1: is made by Boeing, can be made fit for traveling
- 30:21Speaker 1: back to Earth, or if Wilmore and Williams should wait
- 30:25Speaker 1: until a space X dragon craft can retrieve them, meaning
- 30:29Speaker 1: they'll remain at the space station until twenty twenty five.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Space X will launch its dragon craft for its own
- 30:33Speaker 1: mission next month. Blah blah blah.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Excuse me what craft?
- 30:39Speaker 1: I believe you use the word space X dragon?
- 30:43Speaker 3: Yes, who's the dragon? Well, I agree, I just had
- 30:47Speaker 3: to throw that in there. But yes, I've been watching this,
- 30:50Speaker 3: this dilemma with the directional trusters and bowling once again, yep, bowing.
- 30:56Speaker 3: I'm having a run of some technical propts. But again
- 31:02Speaker 3: you make.
- 31:03Speaker 2: An excellent, excellent point, and we all we keep pointing
- 31:06Speaker 2: back to the oligarchs to the to the wealthy ol
- 31:10Speaker 2: garks and their global punage. I mean, they've got power
- 31:15Speaker 2: all around the world, they've got money, they have got
- 31:18Speaker 2: underground connections, and if you have eyes to see what
- 31:24Speaker 2: we're reading in the Bible is coming to pass.
- 31:26Speaker 1: It really is. And one of the things that I
- 31:28Speaker 1: talk about is in that seventeen thirteen or seventeen twelve,
- 31:34Speaker 1: well thirteen, that they have power and authority, and so
- 31:37Speaker 1: you think they're going to give it over the beasts,
- 31:38Speaker 1: and you go, well, what's what's what's the greatest? What
- 31:43Speaker 1: is one of the greatest things that you can have
- 31:46Speaker 1: in order to bring influence or to have power and
- 31:49Speaker 1: authority or capability, and that is money, money, money, money.
- 31:53Speaker 1: And one of the things that that I talk about
- 31:55Speaker 1: in the presentation was that how do the how do
- 31:58Speaker 1: these these oligarchs, these technocrats, they're involved in all this technology,
- 32:03Speaker 1: But secondly, they use their money to influence elections. They
- 32:07Speaker 1: use their money to influence and to bribe newspapers and
- 32:10Speaker 1: the media. They'll just you know, all of them are
- 32:13Speaker 1: very consistent. They'll give twenty million dollars a year to
- 32:16Speaker 1: the New York Times or whatever, and then all of
- 32:19Speaker 1: a sudden boom. Now they're controlling the media. No one's
- 32:21Speaker 1: gonna For example, Bill Gates has done this. He's given
- 32:24Speaker 1: a lot of money to media empires. And then let's
- 32:27Speaker 1: say you have this. You have a young idealistic journalist
- 32:31Speaker 1: crush out of school and I'm gonna go ride a
- 32:34Speaker 1: hip piece on Bill Gates and he brings his report
- 32:37Speaker 1: to the editor and the editor says, that's not going anywhere.
- 32:40Speaker 1: Do you want to get paid? Bill Gates provides us
- 32:43Speaker 1: money every year or you know, for our salaries and
- 32:46Speaker 1: our budgets, and we know that the newspapers are certainly
- 32:48Speaker 1: going downhill. So by doing this or able to influence
- 32:52Speaker 1: now media, they're able to bribe officials lobbying. They also
- 32:57Speaker 1: they bribe and pay for politicians to pass certain things
- 33:03Speaker 1: that will be favorable to their investments, their technological investments
- 33:07Speaker 1: and other things. So they've invested so much money in
- 33:10Speaker 1: all these technologies, which how many times do we see, Oh,
- 33:14Speaker 1: this new electric vehicle company is going to do a startup,
- 33:18Speaker 1: and then the government gives them subsidies, which then is
- 33:21Speaker 1: an investment by some of these technocrats, and then sure enough,
- 33:24Speaker 1: two years later, three years later, the company goes bankrupt
- 33:26Speaker 1: and where'd all the money go? Where'd all the money go?
- 33:29Speaker 1: And think about as well, think about Bill Gates. Here's
- 33:35Speaker 1: a guy that is a computer geek, but yet he's
- 33:37Speaker 1: he owns the most farmland in the country. He's involved
- 33:40Speaker 1: in vaccines, he's involved in all sorts of other industries,
- 33:45Speaker 1: and yet he goes to Africa and when he speaks
- 33:49Speaker 1: to prime ministers and governments in Africa, they listen to him.
- 33:52Speaker 1: A private individual, he's not a medical doctor, but yet
- 33:56Speaker 1: he's able to come in and with his power and influence,
- 34:00Speaker 1: it's an authority influence these small countries to do exactly
- 34:04Speaker 1: what he wants. I mean, that's a definition of what
- 34:06Speaker 1: we're seeing here.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Absolutely And you know, and speaking of the word absolutely,
- 34:11Speaker 2: have you ever noticed how often people are using that
- 34:14Speaker 2: word these days? Somebody says something and the person sitting
- 34:19Speaker 2: across room says absolutely, and you won't be even a wonder.
- 34:23Speaker 2: You know, Absolute means I totally understand, this is totally true,
- 34:29Speaker 2: this is the way it's going to be. And the
- 34:33Speaker 2: word absolutely, it kind of tells us about the mentality
- 34:38Speaker 2: of today's thinking, which is there's a dynamism behind what's
- 34:43Speaker 2: going on today. People are not just wishy washy. They
- 34:47Speaker 2: are on one side or the other. They are absolutely
- 34:51Speaker 2: sure of what they're doing. And that whole attitude shows
- 34:54Speaker 2: up in Daniel and Revelation. It shows up so clearly
- 34:58Speaker 2: people who present themselves as kings. They're here, and they're
- 35:04Speaker 2: here absolutely absolutely absolute monarchy, to use the old phrase.
- 35:11Speaker 2: But you make an excellent point. And we have the
- 35:17Speaker 2: ten horns in Revelation seventeen fifteen are sitting upon the waters,
- 35:26Speaker 2: and it says the waters which thou sauce, But where
- 35:30Speaker 2: the war sitteth are people's multitudes, nations and tongues, and
- 35:36Speaker 2: the ten horns which thou sauce upon the beast, these
- 35:40Speaker 2: shall hate the whore, the harlot. We have the Harlot
- 35:45Speaker 2: running through all of this dynamism, latter day dynamoe, and
- 35:50Speaker 2: she seems to represent in the Bible, she seems to
- 35:53Speaker 2: represent an anti Christian oh for sure, idea, and you
- 35:59Speaker 2: can see that in the world today. You can see
- 36:01Speaker 2: opposition to Christianity, even as we have a wonderful global
- 36:08Speaker 2: evangelism today just unheard of. For example, we go out
- 36:13Speaker 2: on day Star and everybody you can see us, and
- 36:17Speaker 2: at the same time you have the dark side becoming
- 36:22Speaker 2: very very powerful, and that I think is depicted in
- 36:25Speaker 2: this whole panoply of powers.
- 36:27Speaker 1: Yep. As we watch, we're going to see these ten
- 36:30Speaker 1: figures and we don't know exactly who they are, but
- 36:33Speaker 1: what we're what we're recognizing is that we've come into
- 36:37Speaker 1: an era that was different than forty years ago. Yes,
- 36:40Speaker 1: this new era. I mean you have not only do
- 36:42Speaker 1: you have people here in America, but you have people
- 36:45Speaker 1: in Europe. You have people in China and in the
- 36:48Speaker 1: East that are very, very wealthy that are making influence.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Ali Baba is an example in China, people who are
- 36:55Speaker 1: very wealthy and they're able to administer these cashless communities.
- 37:00Speaker 1: I mean, there's more cashalist communities in China than there
- 37:03Speaker 1: is in the United States for sure, because they can
- 37:05Speaker 1: get away with it. If people read the book by
- 37:08Speaker 1: Kai Fu Lee, The Ai Superpower, he's talking about artficial
- 37:12Speaker 1: intelligence there, but he's also talking about the ability of
- 37:15Speaker 1: China to come in and say that community, your guys
- 37:18Speaker 1: are going cashless, did complete one hundred percent, and they're like, well,
- 37:20Speaker 1: we don't want to, too bad. There's no human rights,
- 37:23Speaker 1: there's no bill of rights to protect that and so
- 37:27Speaker 1: they're able to do these things, and so we see
- 37:29Speaker 1: these they're doing it through though China doesn't have its
- 37:33Speaker 1: own digital infrastructure, it's being done through private individuals who
- 37:38Speaker 1: are capitalistic technocrats, who have built the infrastructure for this.
- 37:43Speaker 1: So in the same way, we have all of the
- 37:44Speaker 1: people that we see in the West that are building
- 37:46Speaker 1: the infrastructure. It's Elon Musk is kind of an outlier
- 37:50Speaker 1: in one sense because you know, with him, with him
- 37:52Speaker 1: purchasing Twitter, he is very much anti woke, he's anti globalists,
- 37:59Speaker 1: he's anti you know, what seems to be the control
- 38:02Speaker 1: and censorship to a certain degree. We can't buy into everything,
- 38:07Speaker 1: but he definitely has been run against the grain. Now,
- 38:12Speaker 1: what I find interesting is that we know Daniel seven
- 38:15Speaker 1: that the Antichrist subdues or humiliates three of the figures. Yes, right, yes,
- 38:22Speaker 1: and so he somehow he plucks them up or he
- 38:26Speaker 1: again subdues them or whatever the phraseology is, And you think, Okay,
- 38:32Speaker 1: is he going to be one of those that gets subdued,
- 38:34Speaker 1: that gets put in his place whatever that looks like.
- 38:36Speaker 1: I don't know. But what we do know is that
- 38:38Speaker 1: there's these ten figures that are influencing the world. I'll
- 38:42Speaker 1: give I'll read one more comment from from the article.
- 38:47Speaker 1: It says this, China's military has also noted its serious
- 38:51Speaker 1: concerns the Starling project has decided to increase the plan
- 38:55Speaker 1: twelve thousand satellites to forty two thousand, underscoring that it
- 38:58Speaker 1: is widely distributed, flexible, and could be reconfigured quickly. According
- 39:04Speaker 1: to the People's Liberation Army Publication of China, the ambition
- 39:08Speaker 1: to militarize Starling and it's barbaric expansion and added deserve
- 39:13Speaker 1: high alert from the International Committee. So Gary, this is
- 39:17Speaker 1: a secular article, yes, recognizing that this system, the Starling system,
- 39:23Speaker 1: could be militarized quickly, and China, it's even China's even
- 39:29Speaker 1: coming to question this or you know, they're concerned about it.
- 39:33Speaker 1: And so here we are if the secular people can
- 39:35Speaker 1: see this. Biblically speaking, we have a great framework for
- 39:40Speaker 1: understanding these ten figures.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Fuel, water, electricity, We need those and those can be
- 39:49Speaker 2: stopped with this new technology globally overnight, in fact, far
- 39:54Speaker 2: less than overnight. In a few minutes, you can shut
- 39:58Speaker 2: down all of the distributions systems. And when you do that,
- 40:05Speaker 2: what can you say I'm king, hey, I control all this,
- 40:09Speaker 2: and I think that is what the great minds, if
- 40:13Speaker 2: you will, are arguing about behind the scenes right now.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Who is going to be that person who decides to
- 40:21Speaker 2: turn on the power, turn off the power, ship fuel
- 40:23Speaker 2: from here to there? Who's going to decide all that.
- 40:27Speaker 2: That's where we are.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Yep, and we're not saying that. Certainly there is a
- 40:31Speaker 1: political element of the final bast system. We see that
- 40:34Speaker 1: relation thirteen, So no doubt. But you have these outliers
- 40:39Speaker 1: that where they get to be participating in his rule
- 40:43Speaker 1: for that one hour. That's not sixty minutes, it's just
- 40:45Speaker 1: a period of time. He is going to the political
- 40:49Speaker 1: part is going to dominate, but he's going to be
- 40:50Speaker 1: able to dominate it through technology again, which is Klaus
- 40:52Speaker 1: Schwab's m That's what they say. Yes, So as we
- 40:56Speaker 1: continue to watch this, I think it's exciting. I mean,
- 40:58Speaker 1: you know, Gary, we don't want to be all gloom,
- 41:00Speaker 1: doom and gloom. I mean, you know, what's what's the
- 41:04Speaker 1: hope that people have? I mean, let's just give a
- 41:06Speaker 1: simple presentation of the hope of the gospel here. I mean,
- 41:09Speaker 1: as we watch these things continue to solidify and all
- 41:12Speaker 1: the evidence is coming to play. You know, Should we
- 41:14Speaker 1: be scared?
- 41:15Speaker 2: Absolutely not? And I noticed I use the word absolutely again.
- 41:20Speaker 2: That word I think is coming into play on so
- 41:23Speaker 2: many levels because we're looking for something we can absolutely
- 41:27Speaker 2: depend on. And so ask me that question again, what
- 41:31Speaker 2: did you just ask? You said, should we be scared?
- 41:34Speaker 1: I mean, we see these things, and so I mean,
- 41:36Speaker 1: we're not here to be doom and gloom. But what's
- 41:38Speaker 1: the hope for the Christian? What's the hope? What's the
- 41:40Speaker 1: encouragement for the Christian?
- 41:41Speaker 2: Is what's called the blessed hope, and it is a
- 41:45Speaker 2: hope that cannot be deciphered. You can take your Ai,
- 41:55Speaker 2: and even AI does not have the mind of Christ.
- 42:01Speaker 2: And that's, to me, is the nugget of information that
- 42:05Speaker 2: we have to offer as preachers of the Word of God.
- 42:10Speaker 2: AI is here, the mind of Christ is here. Which
- 42:14Speaker 2: way you're going to go? And we know which way
- 42:17Speaker 2: we're going to go, and therefore we don't fear what
- 42:21Speaker 2: could be a terribly fearful thing. As I'm talking with
- 42:24Speaker 2: you about these things, I can sort of feel at
- 42:26Speaker 2: the pit of my stomach. Wow, we are that close
- 42:31Speaker 2: to somebody whom we do not respect, stepping up and
- 42:36Speaker 2: saying here I am, I'm your guy. I'm going to
- 42:38Speaker 2: run everything, and if you don't like it, I'll shut
- 42:42Speaker 2: you down. And they can do it, and.
- 42:44Speaker 1: They'll have the power and the capability of these ten
- 42:46Speaker 1: figures and all of what they bring to the table. Again,
- 42:51Speaker 1: let's make a deal. That's almost like a book title,
- 42:53Speaker 1: Let's make a deal. You know that the deal between
- 42:55Speaker 1: the Christ and the ten the ten Kings.
- 42:58Speaker 2: But act to the blessed hope. You know we have
- 43:01Speaker 2: that as Christians, and well explain the blessed hope. Maybe
- 43:06Speaker 2: somebody you know is not on the same wavelength.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we're told in First Sisonians one ten,
- 43:12Speaker 1: chapter five, verse nine that we are not appointed to
- 43:14Speaker 1: wrath the wrath of the tribulation period. There you go,
- 43:17Speaker 1: that's the blessed hope, because there we know in Titus
- 43:20Speaker 1: two thirteen it talks about the blessed hope in the
- 43:22Speaker 1: coming of the Lord Jesus to come and bring back
- 43:24Speaker 1: his church. And so we know that during this period
- 43:26Speaker 1: there's going to be judgment. God's did bring in judgment
- 43:29Speaker 1: on the world, and we have the opportunity to, you know,
- 43:32Speaker 1: Luke twenty one tells us to escape. He uses the
- 43:34Speaker 1: word escape, to escape these things and to stand before
- 43:37Speaker 1: the sun of man. That's a beautiful promise that we have,
- 43:40Speaker 1: and it comes through faith in Jesus Christ. And so
- 43:42Speaker 1: our goal, as you know, very one of the pillars
- 43:44Speaker 1: of pop prophecy watchers, is that we want to see
- 43:47Speaker 1: as many people as possible rescued prior to the start
- 43:51Speaker 1: of the tribulation period in the rapture.
- 43:53Speaker 2: Of the Church. How close is it when you say,
- 43:57Speaker 2: when we talk about these things, how close is all this?
- 44:00Speaker 1: Well, what we can say is none of us know
- 44:04Speaker 1: the closeness of the rapture itself. But what we do
- 44:08Speaker 1: know is the signs of the times are here. They're
- 44:12Speaker 1: not close, they are here. We're seeing the setup of
- 44:17Speaker 1: the stage, the stage being set for all of these things,
- 44:20Speaker 1: Israel's isolation, the world government, technology being used being developed.
- 44:24Speaker 1: It is all here a crisis, right, chaos, which is
- 44:28Speaker 1: where the Antichrist steps in. So those things aren't soon,
- 44:31Speaker 1: they are here, and so it's just how far down
- 44:34Speaker 1: the rabbit hole of crisis and chaos do we get
- 44:36Speaker 1: before the rapture happens and the man of sin, the
- 44:40Speaker 1: man of lawlessness, arrives on the scene.
- 44:42Speaker 2: Well, Mondo, you and I are going to be writing
- 44:44Speaker 2: more about the Ten Kings in days to come, and
- 44:48Speaker 2: for those of you with us, I suggest that you
- 44:50Speaker 2: read in Daniel and Revelation, read the Ten Kings narrative
- 44:55Speaker 2: and just see for yourself what's happening is It couldn't
- 44:59Speaker 2: be more clear to me. I mean, it's happening.
- 45:02Speaker 1: I think so too. And again I encourage people to
- 45:04Speaker 1: uh to go to propsywatchers dot com, go to the
- 45:07Speaker 1: articles tab and you can scroll down and you can
- 45:09Speaker 1: see the three articles you know, one that Gary wrote
- 45:11Speaker 1: and the two that I wrote on the Ten Kings
- 45:14Speaker 1: the rise of the technical technico. Here it is the
- 45:16Speaker 1: rise of the technocratic oligarchs. You can see how how
- 45:20Speaker 1: we see this. And it's even more so as we
- 45:22Speaker 1: mentioned today just recently with NASA's problems and so also
- 45:26Speaker 1: if you again, just in closing here, join us in
- 45:28Speaker 1: Branson propswatches dot com. You can see how to join
- 45:30Speaker 1: us there. It's gonna be a great time post the
- 45:32Speaker 1: election will be interesting. Gary. This has been a great
- 45:35Speaker 1: conversation as always.
- 45:36Speaker 2: As always, and this conversation will continue even after we're
- 45:40Speaker 2: off the air.
- 45:41Speaker 1: Ave been to that, so every thanks for listening today everybody,
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