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- 1:08Jamie Shilanski: Everyone out there thinks that scaling and
- 1:10growth are synonymous. They don't mean the same thing.
- 1:13Scaling isn't so much about growth as it is about removing
- 1:16the obstacles that the founder has set that are limiting your
- 1:20business. Welcome back TPR nation. This is Jamie Shilanski,
- 1:23in an episode of Worlds to Conquer. And today we are going
- 1:26to be having a conversation about where you are at in your
- 1:29financial advisory career. So when we sat down, Matthew
- 1:33Jarvis, Micah Shilanski and myself, and we took all of that
- 1:36knowledge that we had from running two successful
- 1:39practices, Shilanski and Associates, which is started by
- 1:42my mom and dad, Floyd and Rosa back in 1981 and then Jarvis
- 1:45financial services, which was started by Nathaniel Jarvis, and
- 1:49then taken over by Matthew Jarvis, and grew to unparalleled
- 1:52amounts. So as we looked at all of that institutional knowledge,
- 1:55and we tapped into the resources of talking to the founders about
- 1:59how things got started, what needed to pivot, what needed to
- 2:02change, what stage is an advisor at? There's really three
- 2:06different stages that you are at in your career, and these aren't
- 2:09age related stages. These are just when did you start? Where
- 2:13are you at? And so the very first one is the growth stage.
- 2:16When you are at the growth stage, you normally have less
- 2:19than $30 million under management. You've got a handful
- 2:22of clients. And to get to that 30 million of AUM, you probably
- 2:26have more clients than it should equate to. I think, when I talk
- 2:29to most financial advisors, most of the part. I mean, there are
- 2:33some different, you know, whale hunters out there, but for the
- 2:36most part, when I talk to the average, you know, Bob financial
- 2:40advisor, they are working with households that have about a
- 2:43million dollars that under management. And so for them to
- 2:46have that $30 million of asset under management, they have
- 2:49around 30 to maybe 50 clients. That's a lot of clients to have
- 2:53for such a low A u m. Now we talk about that low AUM, but
- 2:56don't ever forget what time growth stage and what we need to
- 2:59do here that that is still somebody's life savings. They
- 3:03are still entrusting you with all of the money that they have.
- 3:06We don't refer to clients as clients at Shilanski and
- 3:09Associates, we call them heartbeats. How many heartbeats
- 3:12are we impacting? How many heartbeats are we changing? Why?
- 3:16Because a lot of times in financial services, we strip
- 3:19away the human elements and we think about the data, Aum, fee,
- 3:22fee only households. How many do we have? And we get everything
- 3:26down to these statistical numbers that we forget we're
- 3:29helping real people with their entire life savings. In fact, we
- 3:32just had this last year. One of our lead advisors in our office
- 3:36got this incredibly large client, and it was the biggest
- 3:39client he ever had. And by the way, you get to set that
- 3:42definition. Have you ever stood in line in a sales capacity and
- 3:45you listening to a customer in front of you or behind you, or
- 3:49off to the side or whatever, and the clerk at that store says,
- 3:52Yeah, I got this happened to me last night at the UPS store. The
- 3:56guy said, Well, I can mail this view. It's going to be really,
- 3:59really, really expensive. And what did really, really, really
- 4:03expensive mean to the man that at the UPS store versus the man
- 4:06that was shipping off whatever was inside of his package. And
- 4:10we set the parameters on that, don't ever get send somebody
- 4:13else's checkbook, because if I had something vital that I had
- 4:16to get and I was UPS out to somebody, and it was $250 that
- 4:20might be expensive if I compared it to a post mail that 60 cents,
- 4:23but it's not expensive compared to how vital is this, that I get
- 4:27it to that place in a certain amount of time. So don't get
- 4:30into somebody's checkbook. Let them define what expensive and
- 4:34also what is a client for you. And just because somebody else
- 4:37says, Hey, big clients for me have more than ten million of
- 4:40assets under management, maybe a big client for you is somebody
- 4:44that has 1 million asset under management. Don't judge yourself
- 4:47compared to where other people are. Focus on where you are and
- 4:51what matters. So as I was working with this lead advisor,
- 4:54and you got for him a big client, and as he's going
- 4:57through it, and then the next appointment he had right
- 5:00afterward was a prospect that had probably 10% of the asset
- 5:03under management that the first one had. So client a, client B
- 5:07and client a had all of this, you know, wealth that they had
- 5:10accumulated. Client B had 10% of that wealth saved up. But guess
- 5:14what the difference was between them, nothing. It was still
- 5:17their life savings. It was still all of the money that they had
- 5:20in order to retire, that they were coming in to hire one of
- 5:24our financial advisors to help them learn about money and learn
- 5:27about and to do what, what is the number one fear that
- 5:30everyone has when they go to retire? I don't want to outlive
- 5:34my retirement savings. That's the that is what they are
- 5:37solving for. I don't want to die. I don't want to have to
- 5:40move back in with my kids. I don't want to have to, you know,
- 5:43go on welfare. That is what we are solving. That is the problem
- 5:47we are solving for them. We're helping them take away that
- 5:50uncertainty and the risk that comes with retirement. They know
- 5:54that they're making good, financial prudent decisions. And
- 5:57so if you are in that stage where you have, I'm just, you
- 6:00know, kind of wagging it, I'm going to say for conversation
- 6:03here today, less than 30 million asset under management. You're
- 6:07working with 30 or 50 households. The only thing, the
- 6:10only thing that you should be focused on is growing your
- 6:13practice. A lot of times you go to these conferences and they're
- 6:17like, Oh, you gotta worry about compliance. You gotta worry
- 6:20about systems and processes and marketing and you know, and
- 6:23retention, how you're gonna bring on another advisor, and
- 6:26what's your succession plan? All of these things constantly being
- 6:30thrown at us, telling us what we should be focused on, instead of
- 6:34just looking and saying, all right, you know what? In the
- 6:37next five years, I want to be there, and in order to get
- 6:40there, here's what I have to do today. And we see this by
- 6:43looking at our calendars and judging how we are allocating
- 6:47our time throughout the day. So if you bring up your calendar,
- 6:50and you are in that growth stage, and you are answering
- 6:53emails, you are attending conferences, you are going to
- 6:56web CES, you know, you're looking at all these different
- 6:59credentialing to get behind your name. Now, do I think you need
- 7:03credentials behind your name? Yeah, I do. I think it gives you
- 7:06a power of authority, a line of authority and a place to speak
- 7:10from. Do I think you need 20 different credentials after your
- 7:13name. No, I don't now, if you like me, just love learning
- 7:16cool. Go get it. But if you think that those credentials are
- 7:20going to lead to more clients, necessarily, you are just
- 7:23playing office. And playing office is when we are doing all
- 7:26of the things that justify our busyness without actually
- 7:29justifying our meaning, our purpose. What should we put be
- 7:33putting energy towards? So if you your calendar and you're
- 7:36doing anything but focused on growth at that when you're in
- 7:39that 30 million, our last asset under management, you need to
- 7:43restructure your properties. The very first thing that you should
- 7:46be doing is looking at your marketing. You need to do
- 7:49everything you can to potentially bring on new
- 7:52clients. So you need to dissect, how did you get those households
- 7:55in the first place? What is working for you not what should
- 7:59I try? Should I send out a newsletter? Should I bring a
- 8:02Chamber of Commerce? Should I do all of these things? Where did
- 8:05you get your clientele from? Now, once you understand where
- 8:09you got your clientele from, and you began to develop trends. And
- 8:12whenever I'm helping somebody do do marketing, I start off in
- 8:16what they feel is kind of an obnoxious way. And, you know,
- 8:19I've got a lot of eye rolling on this, but starting off in this
- 8:23way, I think, really helps narrow your focus. And I just
- 8:26did this exercise with somebody that was starting a YouTube
- 8:29channel, you know, and they said, Okay, you know, I gotta, I
- 8:32gotta kind of figure out what I want my channel to be about,
- 8:36blah, blah, blah. And I was like, no, no. First you need to
- 8:39figure out her audience, who you're speaking to, because if
- 8:42you're speaking to everyone, you're speaking to no one. If
- 8:46your message is for everyone, it's for no one, you need to
- 8:49hear that and hear it. Well, that's why coaches specialize in
- 8:52very particular niches. If you don't know if you should have a
- 8:56niche or not, go back and listen and get the show notes here. Go
- 8:59listen to niche slapped an episode that I recorded that is
- 9:03highly popular, and most financial advisors that are
- 9:05like, hey, that really, really helped when I can join that
- 9:09niche slapped with, how do I go, instead of my marketing on for
- 9:12the rest of the year. So if you're not sure where to locate
- 9:16that, please email us at lifestyle@theperfectria.com. We
- 9:19are all about empowering financial advisors to become
- 9:22their better selves, and so we will make sure that we connect
- 9:25you with those resources as needed. All right, now, if
- 9:28you're one of our members, you're going to get into a lot
- 9:31more content that's really going to accelerate where you're at.
- 9:35If you're just using the medium version. What does that mean?
- 9:38That's great podcast episodes. You're going to listen to all
- 9:42this content. You're going to think for 30 minutes after the
- 9:45episode concludes about all the things you're going to go do
- 9:48that's you don't go do. Because what did we talk about last
- 9:52month? What did you implement from last month? Episode that
- 9:55you are carrying forward with today? There's a reason people
- 9:58buy memberships, because you're putting your money around Office
- 10:02and you're holding yourself accountable. We must have that
- 10:05exchange of money to hold ourselves accountable to getting
- 10:08things done. So first you got to audience, and so I do this
- 10:12really simple exercise, and says, Okay, you know, in the
- 10:15galaxy that we are in, which planet do you want to target?
- 10:18Now, this seems like a ridiculous question. One day. It
- 10:21might not be, but, you know, they're like, Okay, I'm on the
- 10:25planet Earth. And I say, okay, earth, great. We got seven
- 10:28different continents, or which ones are you going to hit? And
- 10:31they're like, What do you talk about? I'm only doing North
- 10:34America. Okay, great. So North America, so you're going to do
- 10:38all of those 48 states? And they're like, Well, no, no, I'm
- 10:41actually just focused on my practice here in Utah. So now
- 10:44we're inside of Utah. You and I don't know girls or counties or
- 10:48what they have into whatever they have in Utah. You know, are
- 10:51you focused on all of them? Well, no, no, I'm just focused
- 10:55on this particular region. Okay, great. So here's the zip codes
- 10:58in that region, all right, and tell me about your clients you
- 11:01have today, not some dream sheet of claims you wish you had. Who
- 11:05is actually hiring you? Who's hiring you, who has decided that
- 11:09you are confident and capable enough to put their money down
- 11:12on the line and hire you to be their financial advisor. Focus
- 11:15on that, because that is concept. Those are people that
- 11:18are actually willing to pay for your services. Okay, great. And
- 11:22now we kind of, we keep coming to layer down, layer down. All
- 11:25right, great. Do you work with singing people, widow people,
- 11:29married people, not people. Okay, great. Is this a sex
- 11:32relationship? Is a heterosexual relationship? They do all of
- 11:35these filters. And I don't care what your social stance is. I
- 11:39don't care what your political stance is, because at the end of
- 11:42the day,
- 11:44your clientele can improve who you work with, and you're going
- 11:47to know who wants to hire you. So folks on that niche,
- 11:51specifically, I know I work with married couples and heterosexual
- 11:56relationship that are normally in the ages of 45 and 55 All
- 12:00right? So 55 these are individuals, yeah. Where do they
- 12:06work? And then all sudden, you're going to start developing
- 12:10your niche that you had in place just haven't been focused on,
- 12:15because all you want is more and more, but you don't know what
- 12:20type of clients are supposed to be hunting. Imagine you had 1000
- 12:24ping pong balls at the top of a bleacher, and then the bottom of
- 12:28the bleacher, your assistant sets up a champagne glass, and
- 12:31they put that champagne glass, and you take that bucket of 1000
- 12:35ping pong balls from the top of the bleachers, and you dump it
- 12:38down the bleachers, and it's bouncing, bouncing, bouncing,
- 12:41bouncing, and what you're doing is hoping one of them, by
- 12:46chance, doesn't just hit the rim and bounce, but actually goes
- 12:50inside of the glass. That's how you're treating marketing,
- 12:54instead of having one ping pong ball and a held in a good arm
- 13:00and just looking at how you get that inside of the target, and
- 13:04so you need to really narrow down and focus and do that
- 13:06exercise. Sounds trivial, sounds stupid, but it gets your brain
- 13:10in the thought pattern of being concise. And I struggle with
- 13:15that a lot because I had to train myself to be a detailed
- 13:18person. And somebody that met me between my 30s and 40s. Thinks
- 13:21that I am hyper, hyper detailed and totally In fact, I just got
- 13:25described as man. I've never met somebody more buttoned up. I got
- 13:28my together, but it wasn't instinctual thing. I'm a
- 13:32dreamer. I love to dream. I mean, I get so motion sickness.
- 13:36My feet are planted in the ground, but my head is
- 13:38constantly in the clouds. I love to dream. I love to visualize. I
- 13:41love to conceptualize. I love to think of new ideas. I love to
- 13:44spitball with people. Bring some all of these things. And when we
- 13:47drive down into the details, I get bored with it, and I don't
- 13:52like doing all the detail work. But here's the problem, if I
- 13:56don't do the detailed work, I can't build that stairway up to
- 14:00the clouds. I can, all I can do is sit on the ground and dream
- 14:03of what it must be like to be up there. So I must do this in
- 14:07order to get that and we, sometimes we make a lot of
- 14:11wishes, and we forget that those wishes must have a plan to go
- 14:16behind them. I work with a lot of businesses, and sometimes
- 14:19business owners set these lofty, lofty, ambitious goals, and
- 14:25they're really ambiguous ones. They're really ones that are
- 14:28like, I want to be the premier sporting goods store. I want
- 14:32people to only turn to us for this type of health care, you
- 14:36know? And you set these goals where your audience is everyone,
- 14:39so it's no one. Instead of looking about, how can I enjoy
- 14:43reputation that is so profound, business is attracted to me. So
- 14:49go through that exercise. Get the brain in the habit of
- 14:52getting concise, figure out what you have to do to get where
- 14:56you're at. Now you might be of the mindset that says, hey, I'm
- 14:59terrible at marketing and I'm just really bad at it. Should I
- 15:02outsource it? Now, if there's something that you're absolutely
- 15:06awful at, I am 100% advocate of outsourcing it so that you can
- 15:10do things at your highest and best use. But this is my
- 15:13experience every gosh darn time you hire a marketing agency and
- 15:18you pay them 15 to $50,000 a year, they're still going to
- 15:24come to you and ask the questions I just did a view.
- 15:28Who's your target audience. Tell me about your Avatar. Avatar is
- 15:31your ideal client, and you're going to give them your dream
- 15:35sheet, instead of analytically, going back and saying, All
- 15:39right, here's and dump it out. Guys, we love spreadsheets. Do
- 15:42it in a spreadsheet and dump all of your clients out. Wm, and
- 15:46when you have the data defining who you're working with, oh my
- 15:50goodness, and then you can't BS yourself anymore. This isn't
- 15:53somebody you're eating rubber chicken with at a conference and
- 15:56telling them, oh yeah, this is who I work with. Only dentists,
- 15:58but you have two dentists, and most of your people are
- 16:00mechanics. You need to sit down and dump that data out and say,
- 16:04okay, you know, create all of your socioeconomic backgrounds.
- 16:08How many accounts does the average couple have? Are they
- 16:11working? Where do they work at? What line of business are they
- 16:14in? What is their age demographic? What's their
- 16:16household income? Do they have kids? Or do they not have kids?
- 16:19What kind of recreational activities do they like to
- 16:21participate in? That is one of the most profound referral
- 16:25sources I've ever found, is doing things that you enjoy
- 16:28doing with your clients. So if you are an active, avid shooter,
- 16:33and you love doing shooting things cool, hire a coach,
- 16:36invite 10 clients to come to you that might want to learn about
- 16:39shooting and go through that program. But if you love
- 16:42shooting, but you hate kayaking on the water, you're terrified
- 16:45of being on the water, don't plan a boating event. And yes,
- 16:50those are social, fun, recreational activities. But
- 16:53this can be applicable to everything. If you hate public
- 16:56speaking and you're bad at public speaking, don't go buy a
- 17:00seminar program and do seminars, because the stuff we're bad at,
- 17:04guess how we do it really poorly, and it conveys it looks
- 17:08like it, but the stuff that we are happy and excited and
- 17:11energized doing, guess what happens? It also can show our
- 17:15audience that we're excited and happy and I love to I like to
- 17:18cook. I don't know if I love to cook. Maybe I love to cook some
- 17:21days, but I really enjoy it, and I love the learning the science
- 17:24part about it, you know. So I'll take a lot of classes and a lot
- 17:27of memberships and online things, and, you know, do the
- 17:30YouTube University and learn about things like I just learned
- 17:34that if you have flour and you take a cup and you measure it,
- 17:36that it has like a 58 grams. But if you take a fork to that same
- 17:39cup of flour and you fluff it, it has 58 and that is what that
- 17:43is the sign in the 58 grams on the scale. And that's why it's
- 17:47so important to use the gram scale instead of a measuring
- 17:49cup, because the measuring cup doesn't allow for the density to
- 17:52hit the flour once you start fluffing it with pork. Now
- 17:55that's a scientific thing. I have no idea how it dropped 100
- 17:58grams of weight. That's That blows my mind that that is
- 18:01possible, but that's science, and I get excited about learning
- 18:04that kind of stuff, because I don't always understand it, and
- 18:07it's brand new information to me. And so if I'm with a group
- 18:09of people and I want to learn something, I'm going to hire a
- 18:12coach. Maybe they teach me about baking or cooking. I really
- 18:15don't like baking, even though I just use that reference. I like
- 18:17the science part of it, but this is going to teach me about how
- 18:20to make, you know, a brand new dish. And then I want to invite
- 18:23five or six people. And guess what? At that event, I can talk.
- 18:26I'm not going to make some giant speech. I'm going to say, Hey,
- 18:28listen, this was really fun. Thank you so much. And then you
- 18:31know what? I know what my guest is going to do. If they're a
- 18:33good guest, they're going to go tell other people, oh my gosh, I
- 18:36just took this cooking class at blah, blah, blah. Oh, how did
- 18:38you hear about that? Well, actually, my financial advisor
- 18:41invited me to go attend it. And you know what? That person is
- 18:44automatic to because we all do it. We all filter information,
- 18:48thinking, how does this apply to me? What does this information
- 18:51mean to me? That person is going to go, huh? My financial advisor
- 18:56doesn't take me to do things like that. And then they're
- 18:58going to say, Well, who do you work with? And it's going to beg
- 19:01more questions, and then all of the sin you put your clientele
- 19:06in a position of giving you a referral that has nothing to do
- 19:09with market performance, or how much you pay or how much you
- 19:12charge, all it has to do with this is a good person, and this
- 19:16is how they they interact with their clientele. I want to be a
- 19:19part of that. I want to be a part of that club. I want to
- 19:22feel special and taken care of too. So you'll find this a lot
- 19:25of times, especially in your growth stage, center of
- 19:27influences, don't know how to refer to you. They don't know
- 19:31how to refer to you. And so if you're dealing with accountants
- 19:34or attorneys, they feel really uncomfortable referring people.
- 19:37They only might refer if the client asks them, like, Hey, do
- 19:41you know financial advisor I should work with? Or they might
- 19:43be somebody that's in a box professional is going to be
- 19:46like, Hey, I've got this really top client, their kid, you know,
- 19:49doesn't understand cash flow. Would you sit down and be able
- 19:52to work with them? And so you're either going to get no
- 19:55referrals, or the type of referrals you don't want to get
- 19:58in the first place, because you did nothing to empower that
- 20:02center of influence to know how to talk about you. You made it
- 20:07awkward and uncomfortable. Instead, invite them to attend
- 20:10the cooking class, invite them to do this and maybe talk shop
- 20:14in a way that's very generic. Hey, I was just working with a
- 20:17client, bob and sue their attorney told them to x, y and
- 20:19z, but what they didn't understand was they neglected to
- 20:22put any type of Ira language inside of the trust, and they
- 20:25would have unintentionally disinherited blah, blah, blah.
- 20:28And so you give them a random case study, and now you're
- 20:31empowered. Now you're planting a seed, you're planting a seed,
- 20:34you're nurturing it, you're watering it, and you're telling
- 20:37them their brain, because the brain is always filtering. Going
- 20:41to look out for clients that are in similar situations. And so
- 20:43the next time they have a client sitting there in front of, Hey,
- 20:46I see that you have a bunch of IRA accounts. Who's your
- 20:49financial advisor? Oh, we don't have anyone. Well, you know
- 20:51what? I work a lot with so and so it might be really great for
- 20:54you to take a meeting with them. As a courtesy. They give all of
- 20:57my clients one hour of their time. This might be something we
- 21:01want to incorporate. We need to teach centers of influence and
- 21:04people in our network how to mention us in a way that's not
- 21:07awkward. And the best way to do that in the growth stage is
- 21:11empowering them to understand what you do, what you do. And
- 21:16this is how important this is, because I got this wrong, and I
- 21:19started getting a ton of referrals that were totally
- 21:22inappropriate for me. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm going to
- 21:25get, you know, I'm going to get in trouble. This is not what I
- 21:27do, back up, but the attorney did not have a really good frame
- 21:31of reference. So the attorney, you know, I had this business
- 21:33venture, and it was outside of the world of securities, and we
- 21:36started a practice, and we funded it, and we did all of
- 21:39these different things as a different organization, and the
- 21:42attorney that I worked with did a lot of our business drafting,
- 21:44and said, Hey, we're going to come together. Here's these
- 21:46investors that we're going to bring in, blah, blah, blah. And
- 21:49so the second I said investors, I gave them the
- 21:52misunderstanding, because I was saying, Here's what I'm cutting
- 21:55out of my checkbook. This is my investment into the company.
- 21:58Here's what it looks like, and this is the equity we're going
- 22:01to put in, etc. But the second I use the word investor, this is
- 22:05what the attorney got the impression. The attorney got the
- 22:08impression that I was going to go out to clients that were
- 22:11wealthy and fund other businesses and solicit them
- 22:14making a contribution in companies that is 0% what we do
- 22:190% we're not licensed. We're not approved for that. That is not
- 22:23what ra up in Anchorage, Alaska does. And so I'll send I got all
- 22:26of these referrals from these people that were like, Hey, I'm
- 22:29working with this client. You know, they're making between one
- 22:31and three which is this stock zone, 1 million to 3 million in
- 22:33revenue is the stock zone. And you don't know if you're going
- 22:36to get really complacent and happy with that complacency, or
- 22:39if you're going to ramp it up and pour some fuel on it and get
- 22:43to five to 10 million. Now, a lot of you,
- 22:47I would love to be making one to $3 million in revenue. Great
- 22:50focus on the growth, focus on the growth side of your
- 22:54practice, and you will get there. You will get there if
- 22:57you're disciplined and strategic about implementing the advice
- 23:01that we're giving you here. But again, if you're just listening
- 23:05to the freemium version, and you don't have the hard core
- 23:09discipline to implement all of these tactics and give yourself
- 23:12a timeline, say you're listening this episode, if by 1231 I have
- 23:16not done X, I am hiring The Perfect RIA. I'm signing up for
- 23:20one of their memberships. I'm getting my together, and I'm
- 23:24going to stop wishing for success and learning as part of
- 23:27our membership, all these little lessons, like the one I just
- 23:31shared with you, making sure that the people that we are
- 23:35networking with know what it is that we do is really, really
- 23:39critical. So, you know, I had gotten, gosh, I think it was by
- 23:42the fifth referral I got from this attorney. I had to call him
- 23:46up and be like, Hey, Chris, love working with you. I must have
- 23:50somehow, along the way, give you the impressions. Actually don't
- 23:54do that. And this is, these are the people that you could go
- 23:58talk to that. He's like, Oh my gosh. I had no idea. I figured
- 24:02because these businesses were investments that you would
- 24:05handle all types of investments like that. And I was like, You
- 24:09know what? I'm happy to work with a business owner. I don't
- 24:13go solicit funds for investment, for capital improvements, for
- 24:17equity ownership. That's just not what I do. And he's like, Oh
- 24:21my gosh, I've been sending you all the wrong kind of people. I
- 24:25said, That's okay. I would rather screen it out this way. I
- 24:28just didn't want to disappoint you or make you think when
- 24:32you're sending somebody to me, I'm just so gosh darn picky. I
- 24:36don't want to work with them. I actually cannot work with them
- 24:40in that capacity. That capacity. And then we reset the tone of
- 24:43it. Now, since I reset the tone of it, guess how many referrals
- 24:47I've gotten, 00, because I did not tell him from the beginning
- 24:51who it was I worked with, and I waited until that fifth one
- 24:55where I'm like, why is he sending me all of these people
- 24:58and to refine the process, and then all I did in that situation
- 25:02was tell him who I don't work instead of showing him an
- 25:06example of who I do work with. So you need to learn those
- 25:09lessons and embrace them right away. That is what drinking from
- 25:13the fountain of knowledge feels like. They don't have to be your
- 25:17experiences for you to feel that thirst is being quenched. So
- 25:21once you've narrowed down exactly who you should be
- 25:24working with, now you need to focus on the topics that you
- 25:28feel you can develop an expertise on. One time, I was
- 25:31interviewing for this Business Professionals of America thing,
- 25:35and I got this question. I had an interview, do mock interviews
- 25:39with people that were graduating from high school, and we got too
- 25:43into it, and I said, and they said, is the interview
- 25:47conclusion? And I said, Yes. And she said, can I ask you a
- 25:50question? I said, absolutely love to be your resource. And
- 25:54she said, is it better for me to develop a lot of general
- 25:58knowledge in a lot of different fields or become an expert in
- 26:01one and that's a great question. And so I said, You know what?
- 26:05It's better for you to become an expert in one field, become the
- 26:09go to source for this particular subject, because when you're
- 26:13becoming an expert, you will get a lot of happenstance knowledge
- 26:17naturally. It will come very, very natural. So if I'm focused,
- 26:21let's just, let's just say, for example, I'm focused on, I'm
- 26:25going to use federal employees. Let's say that my area of
- 26:28expertise is the TSP, and I am focused on every single fund and
- 26:32how to manage the TSP. What are the rules under the TSP
- 26:36Modernization Act, and where do I need to focus? And you can
- 26:39change this out for foreign case, whatever you want. So I am
- 26:43focused only on this. But guess what? I will subsequently learn
- 26:47how, subsequently learn about beneficiaries, annuitization,
- 26:51mandatory retirements, when people are eligible service
- 26:54transfers. I'm going to start learning all about that tsp and
- 26:58as an offshoot, it's going to teach me about a lot of other
- 27:02subjects along the way. So if there's an area that you are
- 27:06super interested in and people people solve for the wrong
- 27:09things. In my opinion, they solve for what is the greatest
- 27:13market demand, and it's just such a broad net everyone. What
- 27:17is everyone going to solve for that No, find something you
- 27:20enjoy learning about and become the absolute expert in that
- 27:24industry, and become the go to source for that knowledge, and
- 27:28once you feel you've gained a level of expertise, cool, now
- 27:31you can move on to a different subject and begin to learn that.
- 27:35But that will really, really help you. Sometimes, a lot of
- 27:39people, I don't, we don't do this at our practice, because
- 27:43one of our rules is solving for joy, and this does not help us
- 27:47solve for joy. We don't like it. It's probably the Catholic
- 27:50inside of us, but divorce planning. Divorce planning is a
- 27:54really, really important aspect of financial planning. It's a
- 27:58sometimes underserved market, but it's just a heart wrenching
- 28:01one. It's just a heart wrenching one to go through. So we don't
- 28:05like to do divorce planning. It's not that our clients don't
- 28:09experience divorce or have divorces. We just don't do
- 28:13divorce planning, but that is an area that a lot of people can
- 28:16really focus on. ESOPs. That's another area people could really
- 28:20focus on, what. What are you curious about? What? And what
- 28:24would you be passionate about, conveying information. Focus on
- 28:28that and then go write all of your content around that. Jamie,
- 28:32why would I do that when Google has, you know, 10 million pages
- 28:36on this subject, yeah, but looking for 10 million answers,
- 28:39they're looking for an expert in their local area who they could
- 28:43call and go sit down and have a meeting with and ask questions.
- 28:47That's why this works. What works in marketing, everything
- 28:51that you're willing to work so when you're in this growth
- 28:55stage, that is the only thing that you should be refining. You
- 28:58should be refining your client presentations. So clients leave
- 29:02that office feeling so gosh darn elated about the conversation
- 29:06and value that you delivered that they turn around and and
- 29:10refer you to somebody else. And then, second of all, you need to
- 29:14be focused on your marketing. And how do you grow your
- 29:17practice? How do you get to that next level? And I gave you that
- 29:21high level, right? More in the galaxy. Where do you want to
- 29:25serve? Area? I want to serve this region. And just like I
- 29:29said, draw a circle on a piece of paper. That's how I always
- 29:32start this and say, Okay, great. So here's Earth. You're gonna do
- 29:36all of Earth. We're doing Africa. We're doing South
- 29:40America. No, no. Jamie, this and then just begin to narrow it
- 29:44down, because you're trained brain to be more and more
- 29:47concise. So no matter where you might think you should measure
- 29:51up, there's only three stages in a financial advisor's life.
- 29:55There's the growth stage, the freedom stage, and then the
- 29:58enterprise stage. That's it. That's where we are at as
- 30:02financial advisors. You're either growing your practice and
- 30:05you need to concentrate on that growth and revenue and therefore
- 30:09getting more clients and perfecting your client delivery
- 30:13experience, you're at the freedom stage that says, hey,
- 30:16I've got almost all the clients that I need or want. I'm a still
- 30:20process, because I absolutely love doing that, but I'm looking
- 30:24for more time outside the office. I'm looking for more
- 30:28freedom and opportunity to go do other things with my friends and
- 30:32family that maybe I had wasn't present for because I was
- 30:35grinding gross change. And then you have the enterprise, and the
- 30:39enterprise says, Okay, great. You know what? I've founded this
- 30:43firm. I did all of these things, but now I'm the freaking
- 30:47linchpin. Now I am the linchpin and all of this, because nobody
- 30:51can operate at the capacity they need to without me involved. TPR
- 30:55nation, this is Jamie Shilanski, in an episode of Worlds to
- 30:58Conquer. Go find people who share your values and change the
- 31:02world.