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The DiCecco Daily: X-Factors On Eagles Offense, Defense For 2026 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Welcome into another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Checko Daily. Andrew de Checo here with you, Eagles beat
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  Speaker 1: reporter for insidethebirds dot Com. I want to get into
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  Speaker 1: a few different topics today, including giving you my X
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  Speaker 1: factors on offense and defense, but I wanted to provide
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of an overview of the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: group post aj Brown, and maybe it gives you also
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  Speaker 1: a dark horse that I'm intrigued by. So you have
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  Speaker 1: Davonte Smith, and I think he stands to benefit the
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  Speaker 1: most from this new look passing attack because you can
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  Speaker 1: move him around because he's such a razor sharp, broutrunner,
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  Speaker 1: strong hands. Not much is going to change for DeVante
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  Speaker 1: because he's already been a top receiver. Go back to
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  Speaker 1: his rookie season. He handled that well, just shy of
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  Speaker 1: a thousand yards. I think he had nine hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixteen maybe, but there were moments that you could just
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  Speaker 1: see it. And that was very early on in his
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  Speaker 1: career that he had the it factor where he can
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  Speaker 1: be a top flight receiver. And the Eagles for a
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  Speaker 1: few seasons, for four seasons, really had two number one receivers,
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  Speaker 1: and I do believe that DeVante's ready to take his
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  Speaker 1: game to another level. Looks to have even added a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of muscle to his frame. But with Sean
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  Speaker 1: Mannion and Josh Grizzard, who is the passing game coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: I'm expecting to see some more advanced route concepts in
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  Speaker 1: terms of spacing and things like that to take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of Devonte's skill set and get him on the move
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and open things up for the offense.
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  Speaker 1: Last season, they were obviously very compressed. The passing situation
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  Speaker 1: hasn't met the Eagles standards for the past two years,
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  Speaker 1: so they have a lot of work to do to
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  Speaker 1: reimagine this aerial attack. But then you have Makai Lemon,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles rookie wide receiver who when we were there
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, didn't practice with the hamstring injury, which Quinya
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell of course tipped us off on after practice. He
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  Speaker 1: gave us that intel, and it's valuable opportunities for Makai
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  Speaker 1: Lemon right now the installation process of the offense. But
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  Speaker 1: you never want to push a hamstring injury, certainly for
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  Speaker 1: a player in which you have such high expectations for
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  Speaker 1: this year. You know you want to bring it along
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  Speaker 1: slowly and make sure that you don't run the risk
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  Speaker 1: of reaggravation. But I do view him as a volume
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  Speaker 1: based slot receiver, a true slot receiver who can line
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  Speaker 1: up outside in a pinch. But I think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to make his living over the middle, knowing how to
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  Speaker 1: shake free at the top of routes, attack the catch point,
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  Speaker 1: physical after the catch, and those type of players can
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  Speaker 1: become quarterbacks best friends. And what we've learned about Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts over his career in Philadelphia is that it takes
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of time for him to build up
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  Speaker 1: trust in his past targets. Well, Mkaye Lemon has a
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  Speaker 1: skill set that I believe lends itself to establishing that
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  Speaker 1: kind of trust fairly early on. Now, It's also important
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  Speaker 1: to note that every rookie progresses at different rates, which
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  Speaker 1: is what I like to throw out their every offseason.
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  Speaker 1: So it could be a gradual process for Mikayle Lemon
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  Speaker 1: and learning the offense, or he could pick it up
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  Speaker 1: fairly in short order. But we'll learn more in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: But it's also I feel the need to kind of
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  Speaker 1: put that little disclaimer out there. Some players really take
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  Speaker 1: the things quickly QUINNYA. Mitchell Cooper, Dejen Devonte Smith if
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  Speaker 1: you want to look at it from a wide receiver standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: But that's not to say that it's a one size
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  Speaker 1: fits all. And with mckaye lemon, I think he has
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  Speaker 1: translatable qualities that to me suggest that he should be
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  Speaker 1: able to make an early impact. But my X factor's
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  Speaker 1: Dantavian Wicks. And for Dantavian Wicks, he is a bigger
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  Speaker 1: bodied receiver than what the Eagles have. At six foot one,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and six pounds, he has a knack for
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  Speaker 1: being able to separate at the top of routes, really polished,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he should be able to thrive as
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  Speaker 1: an intermediate option in this offense more so than a
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  Speaker 1: third level type of guy. He can do that, but
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  Speaker 1: he's not a burner. He runs a four to six
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  Speaker 1: y two, and I'm intrigued with him in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that I think there's more that he can provide that
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  Speaker 1: his time in Green Bay didn't quite reveal because there
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  Speaker 1: were other players above him on the depth chart you
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  Speaker 1: look at utilization, perhaps, but it seems like the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: are really intrigued with what he can provide and I
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  Speaker 1: can't help but look at the frame and his skill
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  Speaker 1: set and how it compliments Makai Lemon and Devonte Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's also important to note that don Tavian Wicks's
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  Speaker 1: battled drops in his career, and I noted that he
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  Speaker 1: had one in Tuesday's practice on a slant route in
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  Speaker 1: which he got open. That wasn't the issue. It was
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  Speaker 1: looking the football in concentration, and that is something that
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  Speaker 1: I will be monitoring when you get to training camp.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think it's important to mention that what
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  Speaker 1: Hallie Roseman said about Dontavian Wicks when they acquired him.
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  Speaker 1: He noted that in Green Bay he noticed that whatever
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  Speaker 1: quarterback was there, Malik Willis or Jordan Love, they seem
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  Speaker 1: to have trust in Wicks in critical moments to get
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  Speaker 1: him the football, and more often than that he came
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  Speaker 1: up with it. But trust is earned, and that's going
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  Speaker 1: to come through repetition. And we know that he has
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  Speaker 1: an understanding of the offense. He knows the details and
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  Speaker 1: how Sean Manning's going to expect going to expect things
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  Speaker 1: to look. So that should also instill some confidence knowing
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  Speaker 1: that he has a background in this offense and when
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  Speaker 1: you look at wide receiver play, trust stems from knowing
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  Speaker 1: where that player is always going to be landmarks and
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  Speaker 1: precision and consistently being able to come through. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of it is versed in consistency, and because he has
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  Speaker 1: a body type that's dissimilar to the players that I
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  Speaker 1: just mentioned in Devonte Smith and Mackay Lemon, I would
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  Speaker 1: think that it isn't necessarily, you know, something out of
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  Speaker 1: left field to depict Dantavian Wicks is my offensive X
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  Speaker 1: factor because through the lens of the pass game, he
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  Speaker 1: gives you a little bit something different. You have Hollywood Brown,
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  Speaker 1: who in theory can be a vertical threat, but he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't really been deployed as such or utilized as such
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  Speaker 1: in his career, despite having blistering speed and being billed
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  Speaker 1: as that when he came out of Oklahoma. But in
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  Speaker 1: this offense with Jalen Hurtz, who is very adept at
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  Speaker 1: throwing the deep ball, it's fair to expect that maybe
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  Speaker 1: this will be the destination that's able to tap into
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  Speaker 1: that element of his game. And if he's able to
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  Speaker 1: do that and force defenses to kind of stretch a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, and it opens things up for other players
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  Speaker 1: and helps with spacing and things of that nature. I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe that he's going to be a volume player.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be the fourth receiver, someone who you
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  Speaker 1: can bring in. He brings another dimension to the offense
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  Speaker 1: and teams have to account for where he is on
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  Speaker 1: the field and make sure that he doesn't run past you.
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  Speaker 1: And because of that, he'll be valuable. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: his roster spot is really barring something unforeseen in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: If he just completely falls flat, he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: on this roster and I view him as the fourth receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Then it becomes interesting because you have Elijah Moore, who
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  Speaker 1: I view as a safety valve, a short intermediate option,
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  Speaker 1: good route runner. He's a trup pro, good hands, but
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  Speaker 1: he's bounced around a little bit, hasn't been able to
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  Speaker 1: really latch on anywhere, which is surprising because that was
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  Speaker 1: a player I thought very highly of coming out of college.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he had translatable traits that would be able
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  Speaker 1: to carve out a long, stainable career in one place.
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  Speaker 1: But he's here in Philadelphia right now and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if he's able to maximize his opportunities. In training camp.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't play special teams, which is to his detriment.
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  Speaker 1: When you're looking at it from a depth perspective, if
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  Speaker 1: you're the fifth or sixth receiver, it's almost a prerequisite
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  Speaker 1: that you play special teams because how do you justify
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  Speaker 1: the roster spot and how do you find yourself active
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  Speaker 1: on game day? If you're not going to be a
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  Speaker 1: focal point in the offense, you have to be able
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  Speaker 1: to provide something, whether it's returning punts or returning kicks
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  Speaker 1: or as a gunner on kick coverage and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: And he hasn't really been utilized in that fashion in
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  Speaker 1: his career. I can't help but wonder if maybe they'll
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  Speaker 1: give him a look as a punt returner in training
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  Speaker 1: camp or because or something like that, because he has
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  Speaker 1: the short area of quickness and the secure hands to
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  Speaker 1: do it. But again, until he does it, until he's
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  Speaker 1: used in that fashion, it's just an idea more than
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  Speaker 1: it is something that you can kind of see. So
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  Speaker 1: I kind of have him right now on the outside
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  Speaker 1: looking in. Darius Cooper is an interesting player because every
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  Speaker 1: single day he made a play last year, he approached
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  Speaker 1: every day like as if it were a business. He
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  Speaker 1: had a very mature and a mature and business like
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  Speaker 1: approach to the way he conducted each and every practice.
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  Speaker 1: And for someone who doesn't have otherworldly speed or elusiveness,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job of using his
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  Speaker 1: body to his advantage, running routes with great detail and
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  Speaker 1: knowing how to get open. He got some first team
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  Speaker 1: reps last summer, and he just made the most of
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  Speaker 1: every opportunity that he had. That being said, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe Darius is of this mindset, because I will
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  Speaker 1: tell you that he's not. Having talked to him, He's
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  Speaker 1: not going to take for granted that he made the
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  Speaker 1: roster last year. He knows that he has to attack
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  Speaker 1: every single day, and you could see that in the
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  Speaker 1: way that he approached practice and drills and things of
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  Speaker 1: that nature. So just because he made the roster last
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  Speaker 1: year doesn't necessarily guaranteem a spot this year. It's always
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  Speaker 1: when you're on the fringes of a roster, it's always
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have to prove yourself and earn your keep.
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  Speaker 1: So what helps Darius is that he's a good blocker.
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  Speaker 1: He has a compact physical frame, He's willing to do
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  Speaker 1: the dirty work. He had a role in the push play,
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  Speaker 1: and he can help on special teams, whether it be
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  Speaker 1: as a gunner, which he got some work last season, minimal,
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  Speaker 1: but he got some. He can help on kickoffs, He
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  Speaker 1: can help on possibly kick return because that's sort of
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  Speaker 1: an area that we don't talk about a lot. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they don't have a clear cut answer for
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  Speaker 1: a kick returner. I would imagine that Will Shipley will
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  Speaker 1: get a lot of work there. Brittain Covey got some
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  Speaker 1: work there. They tried Tank Bigsby there but it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: working out. He had some trouble fielding kickoffs. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that that really suits his skill set because
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  Speaker 1: while he's best going north and south, it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like there's other things that factor into it, like vision
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  Speaker 1: and knowing how to set up blocks. And it's different
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  Speaker 1: than being a traditional running back because he knows how
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  Speaker 1: to set up blocks there. In fact, he creates his
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  Speaker 1: own holes. But I say all that to say that
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  Speaker 1: Darius Cooper could carve out a role there potentially, and
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  Speaker 1: I right now would imagine that he does make the roster.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson is a player that at six foot six,
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  Speaker 1: you're enamored with the size. Last summer, he was coming
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit. He was sort of developing as
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  Speaker 1: a receiver, is a fair way to put it, and
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurtz was finding him pretty frequently before he suffered
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  Speaker 1: the ni ankle injury. He was using his frame much
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  Speaker 1: better than he did the year prior, and it was
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  Speaker 1: a shame to see that. It's always a shame to
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  Speaker 1: see any injury, but with Johnny Wilson because of the
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  Speaker 1: uniqueness of his build, his blocking prowess, the tenacity in
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  Speaker 1: which he and the willingness that he approaches the dirty
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  Speaker 1: work of the position, and he can help on special teams.
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  Speaker 1: Players like that you need to have on the back
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  Speaker 1: of the roster because a lot of their production doesn't
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  Speaker 1: show up on the box score, but it is something
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  Speaker 1: that proves crucial if you're a team and you're breaking
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: down tape and you're kind of watching some of the
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  Speaker 1: finer nuances and intricacies and players that don't get that recognition.
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  Speaker 1: Guys like Johnny Wilson have a lot of value to
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  Speaker 1: a football team, even if it isn't reflected in receiving numbers.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have to see how he fares once the pads
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  Speaker 1: come on. He was moving around well like his usual
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  Speaker 1: self prior to the injury in the two OTA sessions
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  Speaker 1: that were open to reporters, which is a positive development,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll see if he's able to kind of build
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  Speaker 1: off of that summer. I have him on my way
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  Speaker 1: to early fifty three as well because of the uniqueness
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  Speaker 1: of what he can provide from a skill set standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: There's Quez Watkins, There's Britton Covey also on the dev chart.
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  Speaker 1: But the player that I find really fascinating. He's a
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  Speaker 1: dark horse. And please understand that I'm not saying he's
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  Speaker 1: my pick to make the roster as a surprise. It's
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  Speaker 1: way too early for that. Of course, you guys all
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  Speaker 1: know that. But he's a player that I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast for two years. I've interviewed him as
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  Speaker 1: he was going into the draft when he was coming
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  Speaker 1: out of SMU. He ended up being drafted in the
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  Speaker 1: third round from the forty nine ers in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: And that's Danny Gray. I think it was actually twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two, but the player is Danny Gray. And Danny
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  Speaker 1: Gray had a couple of nice catches, one from Tanner
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  Speaker 1: McKee during a team setting on Tuesday. He also caught
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown from McKee in a red zone setting where
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  Speaker 1: he was able to separate on an out route from
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  Speaker 1: Eric Castro fields and I noted that his teammates were
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  Speaker 1: so congratulatory once he made it to the sideline. You
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  Speaker 1: could see how much they like and respect how he
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  Speaker 1: attacks the game. And I've written about Danny. I've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it here, but I'll reference it again. This is
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  Speaker 1: a player who commands a lot of respect on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field because of the way that he goes about
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  Speaker 1: his business. And he's a problem in practice. He knows
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  Speaker 1: how to get open. He wins against starters because when
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  Speaker 1: you're on the practice squad, you're on the scout team.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things that he was able
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  Speaker 1: to do. And I talked to Quinnon, Mitchell, Cooper dejen
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  Speaker 1: about this. I actually got them for quotes from my
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  Speaker 1: story about Danny what he was providing behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: in the Eagles Super Bowl season on the practice squad,
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  Speaker 1: and he was giving them quality work, good route runner,
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  Speaker 1: he's explosive, he's has four to three to three speed
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  Speaker 1: with him. It's just been about injuries and there are
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  Speaker 1: so many players above him on the depth chart right now,
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  Speaker 1: but he helped himself getting some of those reps when
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  Speaker 1: Darius Cooper wasn't doing team drills, when Makayle Lemon wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: These are all things that are going to help help
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  Speaker 1: Danny Tour in the future. And he's been in this offense. Well,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: this is a new offense, but he's been around for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years now, so he's familiar with teammates.
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  Speaker 1: He's familiar with the defense and how they like to
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  Speaker 1: do things. And had he not gotten hurt last summer,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, going into training camp he was
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  Speaker 1: one of my dark horses. Well I'm gonna run that
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  Speaker 1: back again, because he ended up getting hurt with a
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  Speaker 1: finger injury. They waved him early in camp because when
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: every roster spot is so valuable and you're towards the
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: back end of the roster, you can't really afford to
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  Speaker 1: stash a player, and they ended up bringing somebody else in.
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  Speaker 1: But if he's able to stay healthy, and I know
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  Speaker 1: it's a big if, he will be somebody that I'll
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  Speaker 1: be keeping an eye on that isn't a household name,
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  Speaker 1: but he has qualities characteristics that I think he could
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  Speaker 1: create some fireworks in practice with his downfield speed.
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  Speaker 1: My defensive X factor as who wrap things up is
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  Speaker 1: Cornerback Reek one not a lot of suspense there, but
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  Speaker 1: he's shown well in the two practices open to reporters.
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  Speaker 1: He has good length and athleticism. That blend is so unique,
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  Speaker 1: and I had to do a double take the first
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: time I saw him on the practice field. Obviously I
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  Speaker 1: saw him in person for the introductory press conference, but
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to see him on the practice field going through drills,
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  Speaker 1: you see the way that he moves and his quickness
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  Speaker 1: and his hip fluidity. It's just something that you're not
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: accustomed to sing. And then when you see him on
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the practice field going up against receivers and again, OTA's
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  Speaker 1: are more of a passing camp. That type of setting
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: really lends itself to the offense being able to make
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: some things happen, move the football through the air. But
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: there was that play that I keep going back to
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  Speaker 1: where Jalen Hurts tested him deep down the right sideline
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  Speaker 1: with Hollywood Brown. Tyllywood Brown step for step, ran down
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  Speaker 1: the sideline with him. The pass was incomplete, he was
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  Speaker 1: right there in his hip pocket. And then in the
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  Speaker 1: red zone where everything's so compressed, and a player like
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  Speaker 1: rieg Wohen should really thrive in that setting. He did.
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  Speaker 1: He undercut a route, had a pass breakup. But it's
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  Speaker 1: the length, it's the wingspan, just a uniqueness and I
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  Speaker 1: talked about I talked about that with Johnny Wilson, the
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  Speaker 1: uniqueness of his skill set, of his build that as
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  Speaker 1: long as he gets to training camp and he's able
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  Speaker 1: to settle in once the pads come on, become assignment
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  Speaker 1: sound or remain assignment sound. Because Vic Vanjo prioritizes consistency
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  Speaker 1: and detail and fundamentals, if he's able to do that,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles are going to really have something there. Because
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  Speaker 1: I view him as a good fit in this defense,
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  Speaker 1: He's going to see a lot of passes come his
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  Speaker 1: way as teams look to avoid testing Quinya Mitchell and
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  Speaker 1: Cooper de Gene. And because they have so much other
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  Speaker 1: talent around, including the pass rush with Jonathan Grenard, jay
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  Speaker 1: Loox Hunt and Nolan Smith, there should be plenty of
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  Speaker 1: pressure dialed up where Rik Wohen could replicate his rookie
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  Speaker 1: season in terms of past deflections where he had might
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  Speaker 1: have had sixteen of them. And I think that could
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  Speaker 1: really prove to be hugely beneficial for this defense. And
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  Speaker 1: not only that, his presence, as long as things go
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  Speaker 1: according to plan, could open things up for vic vangiol
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  Speaker 1: in terms of optionality, personnel, usage, deployment, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to give somebody like that help like you had
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  Speaker 1: to with adri Jackson and Keithley Ringo. You had to
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  Speaker 1: atone for some of their deficiencies when they were on
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  Speaker 1: the field, and that takes away some of the other
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  Speaker 1: things you can do creatively. And I think with Greek
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  Speaker 1: Wohen that kind of takes that off the table and
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  Speaker 1: just broadens what you're able to do as a coordinator
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  Speaker 1: and a play caller. So that is a huge selling
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  Speaker 1: point in of itself. But with that, I went along
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  Speaker 1: little long winded here. That's going to do it for
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  Speaker 1: this episode of to check O Deally. I'm Andrew de Checko.
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  Speaker 1: I'll catch you all on the next one.