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🎧 Going offline is the new luxury · Open Tabs

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to OpenTabs,
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  our weekly dive into internet news and cultural moments that
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  have been taking up
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  SPEAKER_00: space in our brains and Google tabs all week.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is us just like venting in
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  getting all of our thoughts out um and you guys can listen
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  along to it um okay so
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  first topic that we had to talk about today um because this is
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  tuesday march 31st
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  um when we're having this conversation so breaking news
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  everywhere is summer house
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  SPEAKER_00: amanda and west have confirmed via ig story notes that
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  that they are a couple um okay thoughts quick reactions to this
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  breaking news since
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  it is march 31st and tomorrow's april 1st i'm hesitant to fully
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  believe it because
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  it could be some sort of april fools campaign but if it is true
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  it's very messy and
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  SPEAKER_03: you know reality tv starts giving us mess all right in the world
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah,
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  I have definitely seen online people speculating whether or not
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  it's an April
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  SPEAKER_01: Fool's joke.
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  SPEAKER_01: From the way that it is rolling out today,
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  SPEAKER_01: I know there were photos of,
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  SPEAKER_01: like,
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  SPEAKER_01: Sierra sitting on the ground in a white dress.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, some guy is, like, trying to make her get better.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's on page six.
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  SPEAKER_01: So...
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  Yeah,
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  like,
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  are we going to be post-mortem-ing this as,
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  like,
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  a brilliant stunt?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um... Maybe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh...
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I'm sort of torn right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  I thought it was real only because I wouldn't think that Sierra
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  Miller would agree
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  SPEAKER_00: to,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: be embarrassed by,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: yet another guy on Bravo,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: for a publicity stunt.
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  SPEAKER_00: But...
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  SPEAKER_00: And Amanda and West just released her like Instagram story notes app,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: like statements.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it just read as like very fake to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was telling Megan before this,
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  I don't know if it's because it's like very it's obvious to me
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  that it was like
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  SPEAKER_00: chat GPT written.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, maybe that's where I'm getting the fakeness.
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  SPEAKER_00: From.
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  SPEAKER_00: But, yeah, if it's true, then, like, great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I watch Bravo.
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  SPEAKER_00: I watch Summer House.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like...
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  SPEAKER_00: I love the drama.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I also feel like in the current season that's airing right now,
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  SPEAKER_00: so what happened last summer,
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  SPEAKER_00: Sierra's like kind of starting to entertain West again.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not a fan of him for her.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm kind of like he's eliminated as an option if this is true.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not mad at that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know we all want
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  more for sierra i think i think that's like the thesis of all
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  this is that what
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  should sierra do you know and like who who should she date
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  because i think that's
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  more fun and exciting than thinking about the mess of the the
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  two that are now
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  SPEAKER_01: allegedly in a relationship um
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think, Megan, you had some thoughts for Sierra.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's your advice for Sierra right now?
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  Yeah,
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  she seems to be at a bit of a crossroads in figuring out what
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  she wants to do next.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just beyond the whole Wes and Amanda thing,
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  SPEAKER_03: just like in terms of her career,
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  SPEAKER_03: like she's been doing more hosting.
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  But even that seems to be at least like me completely reading
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  into the situation seems to be.
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  SPEAKER_03: Paige's influence of like that's what Paige is doing.
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  And so then Paige is like,
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  here,
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  you can do this and kind of giving her an avenue.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I think she needs to figure out what she wants to do.
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  SPEAKER_03: And if she wants to stay on Bravo, she needs to launch a business.
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  SPEAKER_03: And figure out what that's going to be.
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  Because everybody on that show has a business at this point
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  that they're promoting.
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  SPEAKER_03: Amanda has her swimsuits.
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  SPEAKER_03: Kyle has his drink.
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  SPEAKER_03: Paige did her sleeping brand.
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  So I think she needs to figure out what type of brand she wants
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  to launch.
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  And I think she needs to date someone who's more established
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  and like a business
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  SPEAKER_03: person and who's also in like a similar place of like figuring it out.
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  SPEAKER_03: And ideally,
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  they can like kind of like not have the same exact audience so
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  that they can share
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  SPEAKER_03: audiences.
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  So we're just looking at this purely from like a PR
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  relationship standpoint.
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  SPEAKER_03: Who should Ciara Miller do?
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  SPEAKER_03: like PR relationship date next,
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  SPEAKER_03: I would say Tom Brady,
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  SPEAKER_03: because I feel like he's also in a similar place of like,
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  SPEAKER_03: what should I do?
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  SPEAKER_03: Trying to be a host.
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  And I think he's kind of her type,
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  you know,
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  looking at her track record of Austin and West.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like he's kind of just, you know, a dude, a guy, he's there.
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  SPEAKER_03: He has experience with dating very pretty women.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think she's older than Alex Earl.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that would be
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  SPEAKER_03: I think, a little bit more age appropriate.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's my advice.
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  SPEAKER_03: Start a brand and date Tom Brady.
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  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think she needs to do something.
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  Um,
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  it's,
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  I feel like it's like a rite of passage for the summer house
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  people.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's funny.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  SPEAKER_00: with the exception of like Kyle cook who has lover boy,
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  SPEAKER_00: which he's being very open and this season about,
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  SPEAKER_00: about how it's like at almost bankrupt,
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  SPEAKER_00: um,
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  SPEAKER_00: and kind of failing,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Him being like open about that and talking about it on TV.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  But I feel like the cast has been like slow compared to other
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  Bravo shows where
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  like a housewife will be on for one season and now she has a
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  purse line with
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  SPEAKER_00: rolling out their business endeavors.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think Sierra has the best style of anyone in the house.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it would be like fashion, but she was also a nurse.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel like she has done the hosting.
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  Like you said,
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  Megan,
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  she hosted the cuts,
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  Oscars carpet coverage,
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  I believe.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she did OK.
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  SPEAKER_00: It didn't like really pop off.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think somebody I don't want to take credit for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: A podcast said this.
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  I will,
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  when I remember which one said this,
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  I will include it in the show notes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, they said it felt like a lot of the influencers on the Oscars carpet.
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  SPEAKER_00: It felt like this influencer meeting a celebrity.
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  SPEAKER_00: So them being like, Oh, hi, like blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It didn't feel like interview.
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  Like it just seemed like somebody with like a lot of followers
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  on Instagram meeting
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  SPEAKER_00: somebody else who has a lot of followers on Instagram.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think if she like is really interested in that, like go for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I feel like she's been on for like four seasons.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now it's time to like figure out what your next move is.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was going to say,
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  SPEAKER_01: even hearing you talk through that,
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  SPEAKER_01: Em,
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  it reminds me of like advice that I've heard from people who
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  talk about business
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  SPEAKER_01: school.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like don't go to business school to like find yourself like,
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  go into business school with like very clear intention and then
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  use the school to
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  SPEAKER_01: get to your goal,
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  SPEAKER_01: right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like use the resources of the school,
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  SPEAKER_01: use your like fellow students and your peers to like build something and,
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  you know,
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  so that there's that is it's not like,
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  again,
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  a place to discover or explore oneself.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's more to like a means to an end.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like it's funny hearing you talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And like, I'm actually even thinking of this like video.
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  Bethany Frankel actually has a pretty good video out where she
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  talks about Kyle's
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  SPEAKER_01: business and Loverboy and how like,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  failing many times is like a good thing and that you know she
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  listed off a ton of
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  like bravo businesses of like the different bravo liberties and
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  like many have
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  failed and she was like this one and this one and this one
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  she's like it's just
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  really hard and she was talking about again like skinny girl is
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  interesting because
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  SPEAKER_01: it's also in the beverage space so she knows it so well like um
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  you know lover boy and so um i feel like this is like advice
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  when i think of like
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  sierra too like it is pretty clear like she got on the reality
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  show but it's like
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  what's but what for you know what i mean like i don't know
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  you're right like should
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  a reality show be like the the end no it should probably be
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  like the means to like
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like the vehicle,
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  SPEAKER_01: like the way it has evolved now,
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  SPEAKER_01: like the people aren't just on there to be messy stars anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's always like the now what kind of question.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And unfortunately she has to sort of like figure it out in real
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  time with,
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  SPEAKER_01: with an audience in front of her.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's what Addison Rae has been doing,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's like with TikTok,
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  SPEAKER_01: like found herself huge TikTok fame and now has to become a pop star in,
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  SPEAKER_01: in front of this audience.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's doing well,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's just,
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  it's just sort of interesting how strategic you really should
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  be when you're going
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  SPEAKER_01: into these different avenues.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I totally agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that makes me think of a Giggly Squad episode,
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  SPEAKER_00: which Giggly Squad is hosted by two Summer House alums,
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  SPEAKER_00: Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner,
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  SPEAKER_00: who we included this in our Monday Cultural Gems email,
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  SPEAKER_00: just booked a Netflix deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are writing a scripted series of Netflix,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I think Amy Poehler's production company is producing it.
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  Um,
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  and they both talked about how when they joined summer house,
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  they both had plans.
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  SPEAKER_00: They knew it was going to be a launching pad for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't going to be like their end all be all page said,
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  SPEAKER_00: like she knew she wanted to do clothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: She didn't know,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think she knew pajamas at that point,
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  SPEAKER_00: but like her bet,
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  her brand evolved into like being a bed bug and it made sense
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  to launch pajamas.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Hannah was always like her comedy and about her comedy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think even like Addison Rae too.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've listened to interviews with her because I loved her album.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm now an Addison Rae fan or Addison.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think she's just Addison now.
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  SPEAKER_00: She said she just knew like she wanted to be a pop star always.
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  And she saw TikTok as like the vehicle to get out of her small
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  town in Louisiana and
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  SPEAKER_00: And she basically said like, I did whatever I had to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: If it was like cringy,
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  SPEAKER_00: embarrassing TikTok dances,
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  SPEAKER_00: I just needed to get out of Louisiana and get to LA.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I knew I would figure it out.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is crazy.
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  I think it's also interesting,
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  this idea of like,
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  what does one consider to be their job too?
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  SPEAKER_01: And like, what is substantial enough?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like,
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  SPEAKER_01: in a totally different way, this actually came up on the toast too.
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  And an episode I was listening to,
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  I think from last,
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  it was like last Friday's episode.
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  I was listening to it on Monday and I think Claudia and Jackie
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  were having a
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  SPEAKER_01: discussion around like what,
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  Claudia's job is and like she's like well I'm not an influencer
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  I'm a podcaster
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  Jackie's like you're an influencer like we are both influencers
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  like what are you
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  talking about you're of course you're an influencer she's like
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  no but like I might
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  have started like that but I am a podcaster Jackie's like but
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  you're both and she's
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  like no I'm a podcaster and so it was just sort of this like
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  conviction of like
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  SPEAKER_01: that's her identity now
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  SPEAKER_01: Social media like was sort of the vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so like this idea of like, is it enough to be an influencer?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it enough to be a reality star?
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  SPEAKER_01: Both feel sort of like fluid type of roles that like,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how much you can like,
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  maybe it's like the stability of them is not like the
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  foundation of them is not
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  SPEAKER_01: like reliable.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just sort of an interesting like thing to consider,
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  SPEAKER_01: especially with like,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: different ways in and like,
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  SPEAKER_01: where is one going?
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  SPEAKER_01: in doing these endeavors, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think like, I think you're, I think it is the stability of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: if they're smart,
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  SPEAKER_00: like they make so much money if they save and invest,
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  but like people online don't want to see their influencers
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  saving and investing.
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  They want to see like halls and they want to follow their like
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  lives that are kind
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  SPEAKER_00: of on another level that most average Americans can't live.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  But I think,
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  like,
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  I think Sierra could if she was like,
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  I just want to be an influencer.
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  I feel like Lindsey Hubbard on Summer House is kind of like an
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  influencer.
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  SPEAKER_00: But she worked in PR, so she's, like, really good at it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she knows what she's doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But...
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  Yeah,
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  I know there were plans that,
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  you know,
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  Summer House is a seasonal show.
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  So Bravo was going to do the city to follow their lives in the
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  city the rest of the year.
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  And I think it was going to be like Sierra and Amanda as the
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  two like protagonists
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  SPEAKER_00: that we were going to follow.
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  SPEAKER_00: So who knows how that if I mean, if.
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  like it's bravo like live for the mess like keep it yeah i was
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  gonna say sarah
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  should launch her own swimsuit line and then that's just like
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  the thing now oh just
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  like love our enemies and then they can have that be a few arcs
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  a few seasons of
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  just like they have beef that started with you stole my
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  boyfriend but then became
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  girl boss beef and then you could go back and forth you know oh
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  my god done
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  And then fans are incentivized to buy,
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  you know,
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  based on who they think is more right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like orchestrate the team.
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  It's exactly what McDonald's is doing right now at the K-pop
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  Demon Hunters meal.
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  SPEAKER_03: So they've taken the, do you know about this, Melissa?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you know the plot of K-pop Demon Hunters.
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  SPEAKER_03: They did two meals,
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  one that's themed after the Saja boys and one that's themed
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  after the Huntrix
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  SPEAKER_03: girls.
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  SPEAKER_03: And one is breakfast and one is lunch.
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  SPEAKER_03: And like the goal is to be like, who sells more?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Battle of the kingdoms.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: There was a funny clip I saw the other day.
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  And it was,
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  it was,
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  I don't know what the movie is,
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  but it's Robert Pattinson.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that his name?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: From, you know, he was Team Edward from Twilight.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's with Zendaya.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think they're in a movie together.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the interviewer was like, so were you like Team Edward or Team Jacob?
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  SPEAKER_01: And he was so funny.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's like, no one was Team Jacob.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's like, everyone was Team Edward.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was Team Jacob.
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  SPEAKER_01: Were you, though, can I ask you, were you...
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  SPEAKER_01: from seeing the films or the books or both?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it was Taylor Lautner specific.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's back on my Tumblr posts.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_03: It was very much centric around Taylor Lautner.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: Same.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: I was going to say, so that's where like the conversation devolved.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like Zidane was like, well, it was Taylor Lott.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Jacob.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: But if you just read the books, you had to be Team Edward.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, because I will die on this hill.
• 15:59
  Stephanie was mad that Team Jacob existed and that we all
• 16:03
  didn't just worship
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: Edward as much as she did.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: And so she ruined him in the last book.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: But until then, he's fine.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: He doesn't get weird until the very end.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: And like we were already like emotional connection with Rene.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:18
  And I think she literally was like mad that like we didn't like
• 16:22
  Edward because like
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: Team Jacob like was such a thing.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I think she wanted to control the narrative.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: So she was a generational thing.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: Emma, what were you?
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was team Jacob.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think it was.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: There was infighting.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Millennials were Edward.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_03: If you like really.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: I had not like other girls.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to speak for Emma.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: But I very much wanted to be like.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not like other girls.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I feel like.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's part of my life.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's why I initially was like, ew, no to Edward.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: And then once they presented Jacob as an alternative option.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: And also Taylor Lautner is just better.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought Taylor Lautner was cuter.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: I stand by my decision.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought Taylor Lautner was cuter when I was in high school.
• 17:03
  And I also think I didn't have patience even in like the
• 17:07
  seventh grade for like the
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: brooding,
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: like misunderstood guy.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was just like...
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: this is boring to me.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like,
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: this guy's so normal before he turned into,
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: I was like,
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: just date the normal,
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: nice guy who has a six pack.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Are you crazy?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: True.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like I love the whole thing of like,
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: who is the real villain,
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: like trope that's going around the internet.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like how they do that with,
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: um,
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: like I was just watching some clips this morning and it was,
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: it was from mean girls.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah,
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like one of the Regina George monologues,
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: but they're like,
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: well,
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: the real villain was Janice.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:50
  And how she like set up her new friend to like put her into
• 17:55
  this crazy situation and
• 17:57
  to like get revenge you know what i mean it's like sort of
• 18:01
  interesting i love i
• 18:02
  love like my favorite is high school musical and they're like
• 18:06
  gabriella is kind of
• 18:07
  the villain like think about if you're sharp hey you've been
• 18:09
  like holding this
• 18:10
  theater department on your back and then this girl just comes
• 18:13
  and steals your whole
• 18:14
  life in one year and everyone's just fine with it i'd be pissed
• 18:17
  too yeah yeah
• 18:21
  villains that's where like the villain um you know disney's
• 18:24
  gonna have a new
• 18:25
  part like a new section i think of the magic kingdom that's
• 18:29
  coming out and it's the
• 18:30
  villains era like we're in the revenge villains i mean that's
• 18:35
  smart i feel like
• 18:36
  that's like the content i see go viral from like disney world
• 18:41
  it was i know she got
• 18:42
  fired but like the evil queen like yeah it's the villains
• 18:46
  because they're doing
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: they're they have the freedom to have more fun um and like go there um
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 18:55
  I guess hopefully in like 24 hours we know whether the Summer
• 18:59
  House situation was
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: an April Fool's joke or not.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I actually think you guys have convinced me.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it is.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's real.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that,
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Sierra,
• 19:13
  this is an opportunity to rise above and use the fame of it as
• 19:18
  like a Scandavalt.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, follow the Ariana Medics.
• 19:22
  you know yeah path like yeah go book roxy heart on broadway go
• 19:29
  go get those revenge
• 19:31
  brand deals the whole party is really you're so right yeah the
• 19:38
  revenge brand deals
• 19:39
  like you can't tell me like the summer house people haven't
• 19:43
  been like oh we need
• 19:44
  like us you know like maybe this is somewhat orchestrated but
• 19:47
  either way like
• 19:49
  pretty good like orchestrated one one reason I think it's
• 19:53
  orchestrated is because I
• 19:53
  actually sent this to Emma yesterday and someone it was on
• 19:57
  something I don't know
• 19:58
  what it was on but Buffalo Wild Wings commented something shady
• 20:02
  towards Amanda and
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: they're currently running a promotion with Amanda in it
• 20:07
  And I was like,
• 20:08
  to me,
• 20:08
  this is tacky because it's like you have to be team Amanda.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't mean that you have to like go 10 notes down for her,
• 20:16
  but it's you can't jump in on this discourse against her while
• 20:19
  I'm literally
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: watching sponsored content from you.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's got Amanda in it.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_03: But if this was all some sort of Buffalo Wild Wings joke,
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: that would make more sense,
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_03: that comment.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, not to be a conspiracy theorist, but West posted a video.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: I never see his content on TikTok.
• 20:37
  And I got this video served to me a week ago of him watching
• 20:40
  March Madness at
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: Buffalo Wild Wings.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: And Hannah's doing Buffalo Wild Wings.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, I don't know.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: They could be doing some whole meta,
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: like,
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: reality show where they're going to,
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: like,
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: have a showdown in Buffalo Wild Wings and have a food fight.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: And it was all for that.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Or it's just regular drama and Buffalo Wild Wings social went off.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: See,
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: what I was going to say,
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like with most PR orchestrated,
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: even couples,
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's like they all start with some nugget of truth.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm sure.
• 21:17
  I mean,
• 21:19
  again,
• 21:20
  I keep going in my head that there's like these like Hunger
• 21:22
  Games war rooms.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: People are like, okay, let's see what happens.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: There's definitely not.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, let me into the Hunger Games war room.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's how I feel like Nevada Bananas is run too.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my God.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: We're like Wes's group chat who's like, dude, that's crazy, bruh.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's the war room.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I feel like the players are all pawns.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's like,
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: It could have been like a PR setup between the two of them.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then, oh my gosh, can you guys hear Teddy?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, Ted.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm upstairs, but mama's on a call.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, you can come say hi really quick.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: You guys keep talking on the next topic.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, next topic we have on the docket is Coachella.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's kicking off two weeks from this Friday.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Next Thursday,
• 22:18
  we will be doing our annual Coachella Once to Watch of the
• 22:22
  three musicians we are
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: feeling bullish on for this year.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I wanted to see,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Megan,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: I know you historically have been a Coachella goer,
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: but you're not this year.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: But is there anything like percolating you're seeing?
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's a little early.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: We're two weeks out, but are there any rumblings?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: And also, why are you not going this year?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: To be honest, I'm just getting old.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Hi.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Hello.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Hi, Ted.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: I like your shirt.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: Hi.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: Hi.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: What have you been up to?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: Where'd you go?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Did you go to the park?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: No, you're being funny.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, sorry.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone, continue.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Does he have opinions on AI fruit?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: Teddy, do you like fruit?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: He went to his first play, you guys, on Friday.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: He saw The Lion King.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: That was my first movie.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's a pretty... That's a good movie.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: It was scary?
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: That makes sense.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: I cried when I saw it.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_03: I was distraught.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's pretty heavy.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_03: The hyenas were a little scary, right, Ted?
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Was there dancing?
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot of dancing.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of dancing.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Teddy, you have to say goodbye to everyone.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: I got up for the vlog.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_02: You wave to everyone?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: He's definitely going to have a podcast.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: He's a part.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: Are you eating my food?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, I'm just getting old and it's a lot to go to Coachella.
• 24:19
  It's like a big disruption on your life and like your body and
• 24:22
  all of that.
• 24:23
  And the lineup this year did not warrant me wanting to do that
• 24:27
  and spend the money.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: I saw Sabrina when she was in L.A.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: and I had pretty good tickets.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_03: So I feel like I've like done that.
• 24:35
  um but otherwise i would love to go i love coachella i think
• 24:38
  it's so fun it's just
• 24:39
  such a good place to see just a collection of like a lot of
• 24:43
  cool people in la so
• 24:44
  you can kind of it's a good place to trend spot and all that
• 24:47
  stuff so it was
• 24:48
  interesting to see that pinterest is kind of like this is what
• 24:51
  people are searching
• 24:52
  like going into it i do think the things that they raised were
• 24:55
  a little uh
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: predictable but
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's just kind of the nature of Coachella anymore.
• 25:01
  I feel like it stopped being a place that I could reliably go
• 25:04
  to predict fashion
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_03: trends a few years ago.
• 25:07
  And it became more a place where you see content trends or like
• 25:13
  even trends among
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_03: the artists and how they're presenting themselves.
• 25:16
  But Coachella fashion and festival fashion in general have kind
• 25:19
  of solidified
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: themselves to being like aesthetic.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: But there's not a lot of variability year over year to where
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: anything percolating ahead of time would really tell us anything.
• 25:29
  So it'll have to be a more of like a hindsight thing of like
• 25:32
  what is going to like
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_03: pop from Coachella going forward.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And speaking of Pinterest,
• 25:42
  this morning they released the trends they're predicting for
• 25:46
  like Coachella overall
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: and Coachella fashion.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think it's like festival fashion is like pretty solidified.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Some like by now, fringe and suede and belts.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: I go to GovBall every year and they don't
• 26:05
  It's been like the huge trend,
• 26:07
  the metal like belts that you wear low on your waist.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: You can't go in, though, with those.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: They like make us go through metal detectors.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess you could like use it as a weapon if you like swung it.
• 26:18
  So like all these girls were taking them off and hiding them in
• 26:22
  bushes around.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to say two, by the way.
• 26:30
  those were super popular in like 2006 yeah yeah when i was in
• 26:34
  high school thick
• 26:35
  like low-waisted belts yeah yeah i feel like it's very i mean
• 26:41
  we've talked about
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: like it's very 2000s um
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Their Pinterest is calling that like peep-poptimism.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: And it's very like early 2000s, bright colors, like body glitter.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Those, what were they?
• 26:57
  The like,
• 26:58
  those like metallic tattoo,
• 27:00
  temporary tattoos you could give yourself.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I had those on my bachelor's trip.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: They were awesome.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Hair feathers, all of that.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like a newer iteration for,
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: 2026,
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: they're calling it Hot Tropic,
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: which is basically,
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: Zara Larson's aesthetic.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, tropical, bright...
• 27:23
  glittery but still more polished than like early 2000s Addison
• 27:28
  Rae vibes um but I
• 27:30
  feel like yeah other than that I also think that the fashion is
• 27:35
  very heavily
• 27:36
  influenced by the headliners because people tend to dress in
• 27:39
  the aesthetic of the
• 27:40
  artists that they're going to see that day I know that I did
• 27:42
  that last year where
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: it was like
• 27:44
  whatever the headliner was kind of like influenced what you
• 27:46
  wore that day and they
• 27:49
  have carol g who's very much of that aesthetic i mean it's kind
• 27:53
  of it's kind of a
• 27:55
  siren summer basically like it's the same thing um same
• 27:59
  aesthetic just like they
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: called it something else
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: One thing that is interesting,
• 28:05
  Pinterest also announced today what their on-site activation at
• 28:10
  Coachella would be,
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: and they announced that it will be phone-free.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: So before influencers can go in,
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: before regular people can go in,
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: they have to lock their phones up.
• 28:22
  And this was inspired by the fact that Gen Z searches for
• 28:29
  analog aesthetic...
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: And dumb phone were up triple digits for the year 2026.
• 28:37
  And this is something we've been talking about for like at
• 28:40
  least six months now.
• 28:41
  I feel like since we started this podcast about like friction
• 28:45
  maxing and people
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: wanting more IRL and less URL and if like brands want.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: want to connect with audiences they have to also connect them to like IRL
• 28:59
  communities life in some way shape form um so it'll be
• 29:03
  interesting to see how
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Pinterest does that um
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: I also think,
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Pinterest did an activation last year,
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: and,
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: I got a million videos from creators,
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: going through it.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: So since this year is phone-free,
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: it'll be interesting to see,
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: how they work with creators to,
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: promote it and what that looks like.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_03: I also...
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'm,
• 29:30
  I just am like interested to see like what comes out of this
• 29:34
  because so much of the
• 29:36
  brand value of being at Coachella is that you've got a set of
• 29:40
  people who are
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: influential,
• 29:42
  whether that's because they have a lot of followers or because
• 29:44
  they are the person
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: in their friend group who goes to festivals and then,
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_03: everyone takes their cues from them.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: That so much of it is built on their content being seen.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: That if they're not getting content,
• 29:57
  what's the word of mouth thing that's going to travel from the
• 29:59
  festival out into
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_03: the world that's going to like spread?
• 30:03
  Like I could see it being a hit on the ground,
• 30:05
  but then what does that mean more broadly?
• 30:08
  And is it worth it to have a hit at Coachella if you're not
• 30:12
  taking advantage of it
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_03: as a cultural moment at large,
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_03: if you're just doing something that's really like small and insular?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: I don't actually know.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: what's sort of interesting,
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: I've been thinking about this,
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: but again,
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: in sort of like a different context.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think that there,
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's like stepping back,
• 30:29
  like in the grand evolution of this social media experience
• 30:35
  experiment that we're
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: living right now,
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: the move has been sort of like...
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: the democratization of like access.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: So like everyone can become a brand.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everyone has a channel.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everyone can like post whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you see it hit luxury.
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  SPEAKER_01: Obviously in the past,
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  SPEAKER_01: like 10 years in particular,
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  SPEAKER_01: like what has it done to like the luxury market,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then there's like the proliferation of like the fake bag market,
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: blah,
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  SPEAKER_01: blah,
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: blah,
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: blah,
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: blah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you see sort of Hermes doing their thing, like making more like,
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  movement toward like more exclusivity happens with like private
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  clubs you know
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  there's like the soho houses of the world and like more of
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  those type of private
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  member experiences i even think in my own like small town too
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  where i live in a you
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  SPEAKER_01: know a town of like like a lot of people who are
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  affluent and have access and like post on social media there's
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  actually just been
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  sort of this movement toward like less is more if that makes
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  sense and like almost
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  protecting and like not putting everything out there because
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  there's also this idea
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  of like sometimes like culture just has to go over here and
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  like experience this
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  before it gets like broadcasted and so it's just sort of
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  interesting like I
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  SPEAKER_01: actually think
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  SPEAKER_01: it's very intuitive of Pinterest to try this.
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  And I would think it's actually like,
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  I think we will see like very intentional moments of it.
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  Like,
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  I don't think it's going to be like hidden,
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  but I think that they're like,
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  They're like reading something between the lines of like what
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  people are craving
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  SPEAKER_01: right now,
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  SPEAKER_01: if that makes sense.
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  It's like we don't want to see the same thing posted everywhere
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  with the same stuff
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  SPEAKER_01: because then it doesn't feel special,
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  SPEAKER_01: unique or different.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then we just see the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if that resonates with you guys,
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  SPEAKER_01: but I feel like them doing this is actually interesting to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it's really interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just don't know if it works as a social media.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just don't know if it works for Coachella.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, like I think the concept is right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think you're right.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is something that's like in the ether Vanity Fair.
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  SPEAKER_03: Also at their party, we're like we're having fewer influencers.
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  SPEAKER_03: We don't want photos.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're putting stickers on people's cameras so they can't take pictures.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I do agree that there's kind of a move towards privacy now.
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  but not at coachella like you know what i mean like like yes
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  that's happening but
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  not there and like i i'm not saying it's not going to work or
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  it's bad i'm just
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  like interested to see how this goes because it's so
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  antithetical to the goal of
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  the festival and like everything that they've done in the past
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  that it's like whoa
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  and and i think it's good to get headlines and it's very
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  interesting and like
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  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_03: They are tapping into a nascent cultural trend,
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  SPEAKER_03: but I think the execution is going to be so,
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  SPEAKER_03: so important because I also,
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  something that I recommend to brands activating Coachella is
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  it's a tradition,
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  SPEAKER_03: like going to Coachella.
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  So it's like you want to have some sort of consistency in how
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  you show up year over year.
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  Like Heineken has the Heineken house,
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  for instance,
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  and like that's a go-to thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's how you start to own a cultural moment, you know?
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  But if they do something different every single year,
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  that's really expensive for them.
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  And I don't think that the people on the ground are necessarily
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  appreciating it,
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  SPEAKER_03: nor are they building a relationship with the brand being at Coachella.
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  It's just kind of like,
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  okay,
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  what are you guys doing this year,
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  you know?
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  SPEAKER_03: So,
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: I wonder if they,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: um,
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  who I feel like has actually done a really interesting job of
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  something like that
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  SPEAKER_01: at events has been CNN.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um,
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  SPEAKER_01: Totally not like not at Coachella, but I worked at CNN years ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: They,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: they'd show up at obviously like the Democratic and Republican national
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  SPEAKER_01: conventions.
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  Like they would show up at like,
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  again,
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  different like primaries,
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  like different moments.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they have this pop-up called the C9 Grill.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's just so smart.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just like great concept.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's kind of like a pop-up pub that they create.
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  SPEAKER_01: They like, the food is always really good.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like really good Pat Lafrida burgers or like whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then they would get like a brew and they would partner with like,
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  you know,
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  a certain like beer company on like whatever that branding was.
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  And to go to the grill,
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  you had to like,
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  you could only go in by invitation.
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  SPEAKER_01: So,
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  SPEAKER_01: and there would be like events that they would host at the grill,
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  but they also created spaces where like stand-in employees or
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  journalists or like
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  SPEAKER_01: even just like people of like influence would,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you had a pass,
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  you could go in and it was sort of this like cool space that
• 35:32
  you had access to.
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  SPEAKER_01: It created like an access thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like, um,
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  SPEAKER_01: Something like that would be interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't blocked off.
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  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't like you didn't have your phone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, a lot of spaces are like that at Coachella, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: The way that they orchestrated it,
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  it made it feel like there was stuff going on that you wanted
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  to be a part of,
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  SPEAKER_01: if that makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's really,
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  SPEAKER_00: I've never been to Coachella,
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  but I was scoping out the Coachella Instagram account and
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  they're doing a really
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  fun partnership with this stop motion and felt artist where
• 36:16
  it's like a series.
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  I think there may be five or six videos up and it's following a
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  friend group
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  through their Coachella weekend and their little stop motion
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  felt figures.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they must have like,
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  repeat um it features like the food area and like that there
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  must be like actual
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  food trucks and stands that are there every year um because
• 36:42
  there are actual signs
• 36:44
  and people in the comments are like oh my god like that's the
• 36:48
  pizza i get every
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  SPEAKER_00: year at coachella oh my god blah blah blah blah blah um
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  SPEAKER_00: And as someone who's never been to Coachella,
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: very cute and very much,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: to your point,
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  SPEAKER_00: Megan,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: a tradition,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: for these people in the comments.
• 37:08
  Okay,
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  so next topic is a little more serious than Summer House and
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  Coachella.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in case you missed it...