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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 4 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February four. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: Head out a guy who doesn't have to worry about
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  Speaker 1: his barber. J. P. Rick. Yeah, that's fair. Welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. I am J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagaman
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  Speaker 1: with us. We have a program for you today. Let's
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  Speaker 1: to get to well, not as much as we thought.
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  Speaker 1: We're still waiting on the staff announcement. We've seen all
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  Speaker 1: these names reported of assistant coaches linked to the Jacksonville Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: but no official announcement as of yet from the team.
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  Speaker 1: We will talk about some of the names that have
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  Speaker 1: been linked, though roster evaluation will touch on a few
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  Speaker 1: key positions. Once the staff has announced, they'll do that
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  Speaker 1: as well. If they haven't started already. I'm sure they
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  Speaker 1: have the scouting process changed. During the twenty twenty season.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear from Bucky Brooks he joined us on a
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  Speaker 1: podcast Wednesday and get his thoughts on some of that.
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  Speaker 1: Telvin tweets. Telvin Smith tweeted for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: a year and a half and that has stirred up
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  Speaker 1: Twitter in the Jaguar land. And yes, Super Bowl fifty
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  Speaker 1: five is right around the corner a few days away
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  Speaker 1: down in Tampa. Jeff Lagman joins us now from his
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  Speaker 1: home studio and logs it's good to see you and
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  Speaker 1: good to be with you, and happy Thursday. Yeah, happy Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: and good to be seen. I've gotta I gotta send
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  Speaker 1: this out because I was up in Georgia the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of days and the Jaguars reportedly hired his name
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  Speaker 1: is Tyler Bowen Bowen to be the tight ends coach,
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  Speaker 1: and he obviously Penn State, and it is big news
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  Speaker 1: up in Middle Georgia because he grew up right in
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  Speaker 1: that area where we have a place up there, and
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  Speaker 1: so people are all tech than me and calling me
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  Speaker 1: friends of mine that live up there and Georgia say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you guys got one of our home guys. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be one of your coaches. And so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people in Telfare and Wheeler County that are very proud
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  Speaker 1: to have him as a part of the Jaguar staff.
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  Speaker 1: Is that near Onion Country, Videlia and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: How far is all that far at all? Yeah? Exactly,
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  Speaker 1: not not far at all. And he's he was reportedly
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  Speaker 1: a really good football player there, and I think he
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  Speaker 1: played at Penn State. Uh, maybe even coached a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of Penn State. But yeah, so so my my
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  Speaker 1: phone the last two days as soon as the news broke,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that, and obviously hasn't been released by the team,
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  Speaker 1: but the reports that he took the job as the
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  Speaker 1: tight ends coach with the Jaguars, and obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some of the people that I know up there, they
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  Speaker 1: were immediately calling me, said, yeah, you got one of ours,
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  Speaker 1: and like that's great? Is that. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: meet him eventually, and hopefully I will be able to
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  Speaker 1: meet him face to face, and and hopefully the team
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  Speaker 1: will announce the moves, and I'm sure that that will
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  Speaker 1: be coming after the Super Bowl, once Urban has assembled
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  Speaker 1: all of his staff. I think they're still waiting on
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  Speaker 1: a couple of the last signings to make them official
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  Speaker 1: before they put it out, So maybe tomorrow, but I
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  Speaker 1: think you're right, Logs. Next week is probably most likely
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  Speaker 1: that you'll see the official word from the Jaguars, and
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  Speaker 1: then maybe a media appearance from some of those new
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  Speaker 1: coaches as well. Yeah, and and I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if the league puts out something official, and they
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  Speaker 1: probably don't but it's probably one of these ways in
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  Speaker 1: which they do it through the back channels, and that
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  Speaker 1: when it's the week of the Super Bowl, they would
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  Speaker 1: rather not have any distraction whatsoever and have the entire
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  Speaker 1: focus on on the league when Roger Goodell speaks like
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  Speaker 1: he did today, and then also to have the focus
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  Speaker 1: on the game, because the game is what makes the
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  Speaker 1: NFL great, and so you have to have the focus
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  Speaker 1: at the important times on the game. So I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that the league hasn't demanded or put out any decrees
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  Speaker 1: or anything official for that matter, but the league would
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  Speaker 1: prefer not to have any other announcements to take away
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  Speaker 1: from what a wonderful week this is gonna be and
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  Speaker 1: what a great game that this is gonna be this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Lots just touched on a couple of those names, and
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  Speaker 1: then last week we went through the coordinator hires and
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  Speaker 1: a few other names that were linked. But now there
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  Speaker 1: have been some other names that have popped out, and
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  Speaker 1: for me, you know, the the offensive coordinator certainly vital,
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  Speaker 1: and now they've apparently are hiring a passing game coordinator
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  Speaker 1: and quarterbacks coach in Brian Schottenheimer. For me, those two
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  Speaker 1: spots whatever touches the quarterback room considering what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen or if we feel like going to happen with
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  Speaker 1: the number one, number one overall, pick those two hires.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're the most important of the coaching hires
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  Speaker 1: for Urban Meyer this year. Yeah, and just real quick
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers to the Shot and Timer family. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer has been a big name in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League for many years, and I know he's battling
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  Speaker 1: some some physical issues, and so thoughts and prayers to
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  Speaker 1: the Schottenheimer family. But to talk specifically about the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: offensive makeup, I like the fact that they're kind of
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  Speaker 1: bringing in a blend of guys that are going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to provide offensive input because you're looking at Bevil,
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at Schottenheimer and urban Meyer himself. And in
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  Speaker 1: any time that you can get a conglomeration of very
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  Speaker 1: good minds that come together and be a force as one,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a real positive. So I like what
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  Speaker 1: Urban has done on the offensive side, or at least
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  Speaker 1: reportedly done on the offensive side of the ball, and
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  Speaker 1: I think he's done something similar to that on the
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  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. You've added some people that
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  Speaker 1: have kind of been there and done that as as
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  Speaker 1: defensive coordinators going at different different levels. Obviously because with
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  Speaker 1: Joe Clin being a first time defensive coordinator, the more
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  Speaker 1: minds that are able to help him, and obviously the
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  Speaker 1: stronger that you can be as a coaching staff, stronger
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  Speaker 1: than mind individually in a collection of that makes your
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  Speaker 1: defense better. You mentioned that the defensive coaching staff and
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  Speaker 1: reportedly the D line coach Josh Loupoy from the former
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  Speaker 1: Alabama code defensive coordinator. He was the Falcons D line
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  Speaker 1: coach as well. Charlie Strong is apparently going to be
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  Speaker 1: on the defensive staff in some capacity than in Urban
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  Speaker 1: go way back to the Florida days. Zach Orr has
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  Speaker 1: interviewed and will be part of the staff reportedly as well.
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  Speaker 1: And the secondary coach Chris Ash and you know, on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side, Logs, you gotta think about the the
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  Speaker 1: job that Chris Ash is going to have if he
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  Speaker 1: is announced as the secondary coach, because as we talked
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  Speaker 1: about on a podcast earlier today, Logs is gonna come
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  Speaker 1: out tomorrow on Jaguars dot Com and the Official Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: podcast Network. There's really only one secondary position that is
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  Speaker 1: solidified as a starter, and that's C. J. Henderson, right
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, I think everything else is up for grand
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  Speaker 1: was in the secondary, so there will be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of new faces back there for him to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: But I think you can say that for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of parts of the roster, with the exception of maybe
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line, where you feel pretty good about the
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  Speaker 1: percentage of numbers or the number of guys being back,
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  Speaker 1: but the secondary is going to be that way. The
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  Speaker 1: interior of the defensive line could be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a question mark. The linebackers you feel pretty good about,
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  Speaker 1: but the tight end group is one the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: group is another one JP if some guys don't resign.
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  Speaker 1: So that's just what you have when you have a
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  Speaker 1: new staff, you have a very young roster, and you
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  Speaker 1: have a team that hasn't had very much success. That's
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  Speaker 1: just that's just the nature of the business. So to
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  Speaker 1: have a young secondary to uh and have a coach
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  Speaker 1: come in and with the challenge of trying to put
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  Speaker 1: together a secondary look, that's part of the challenge, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why they pay coaches. You know, you've got to develop,
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  Speaker 1: draft and developed and then some of the guys that
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  Speaker 1: you get, maybe you're not drafting them, but either are
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  Speaker 1: older guys. And look, you've got to teach them your
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  Speaker 1: system and you've got develop them within your system. So
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  Speaker 1: that's why they pay coaches the big bucks. JP. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: Yes they do. And that's why Urban's gonna lean on
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  Speaker 1: his coaches and and not you know, if there's a
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  Speaker 1: mistake made on the field by a player, he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: coach the coaches and then let those guys go touch
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  Speaker 1: the players. Right, Yeah, they'll they'll we talked about it
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  Speaker 1: goes downhill, right, it's called the downhill right right, it
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  Speaker 1: rolls downhill, and that that's the way it should be.
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  Speaker 1: It's it certainly does. So we'll see, hopefully early next
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  Speaker 1: week we'll have an official announcement and a media availability
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  Speaker 1: maybe with some of these new coaches, because I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are excited to hear from some
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  Speaker 1: of these guys to to get an idea of what
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  Speaker 1: this thing is going to look like. What's the offense
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  Speaker 1: going to one of the basic tenants of this football team.
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  Speaker 1: Well and and totally understand it, JP, And here's the deal. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars got a new coach, which is essentially a
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  Speaker 1: new CEO and Urban Meyer, and people are starving for information.
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  Speaker 1: They want to they want to hear from them. They
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  Speaker 1: want to they want to understand what what they're gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: They want to hear what they're gonna say. And the
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  Speaker 1: curiosity factor in the excitement is at all time high
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  Speaker 1: and and rightfully so, because you have so much excitement
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be building into this season. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that the excitement is for this team and all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden show up on the opening day and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden be a contender, that that's not it,
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  Speaker 1: but where this team could be headed with a a
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  Speaker 1: new CEO, new coach, and Urban Meyer, and then also
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  Speaker 1: what is expected to be a new quarterback, which the
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  Speaker 1: expectations are that it's going to be Trevor Lawrence. And
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  Speaker 1: so people want to hear, they want to hear about
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  Speaker 1: their football team. They want to they want to hear
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  Speaker 1: from Urban what it's gonna look like, what kind of
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  Speaker 1: defense are you gonna run, what's the offense gonna look like?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the players that are currently
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  Speaker 1: on this team? What do you think about the players
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  Speaker 1: that you could acquire. What kind of a players do
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  Speaker 1: you want to acquire? So there's so much curiosity and
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  Speaker 1: I totally understand it. And that's all part of the
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  Speaker 1: excitement that I think is gonna be building at a
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  Speaker 1: level that maybe hasn't been seen before in quite some
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  Speaker 1: time in Jaguars history. Four three or three four? What
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  Speaker 1: do you running? Joe? And on defense? All that stuff. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's uh, that's the fun part because people are
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  Speaker 1: excited about it. And it's just been a little bit
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  Speaker 1: since we've had anything official from the Jaguars football team.
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  Speaker 1: But I have a feeling that all is coming. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, you know, at what point can we
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  Speaker 1: stop kind of dancing around the number one pick? Like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, can we go ahead and just say it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be right right hey? And the real the reality
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  Speaker 1: is JP is that it's got to be danced around
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  Speaker 1: until the name is announce or until they say something
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  Speaker 1: earlier otherwise, which I don't think they would. They're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna say anything early, you know. And here's the thing,
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  Speaker 1: here's the reason why why would you want to go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and sell yourself short as far as organizationally and
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  Speaker 1: give all of the suspense now to the number two picks,
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  Speaker 1: because the more suspense that you create with the number
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  Speaker 1: one pick, the more conversation that there is about the
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. And that's marketing one on one. Look, you
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  Speaker 1: want to be talked about. If all a sudden you
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  Speaker 1: just say, okay, Trevor Lawrence is the pick, then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, the curiosity, even though maybe the curiosity
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  Speaker 1: is only five percent, it's still there because it's still unknown.
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  Speaker 1: So you want to still be the topic of conversation
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft. So from a marketing standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: you do not let your hand be be known to
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  Speaker 1: the public. You don't turn it that way. You keep
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  Speaker 1: it that way and then allow the conversation to be
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  Speaker 1: about you and then at some point, okay, when the
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  Speaker 1: announcement is made, then great. I mean, that's why when
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thiesman makes an announcement, I guess yesterday to day
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  Speaker 1: whenever it was that, Okay, maybe it's gonna be some
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  Speaker 1: other quarterback will be drafted number one overall. Sure, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's that's Joe Thiesman try to bring attention to himself,
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  Speaker 1: which is Joe. That's what Joe does bet okay, And
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  Speaker 1: Joe does that incredibly well and uh and he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to get people to talk about himself and and totally
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  Speaker 1: get it. But the reality is that that's not even
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  Speaker 1: a possibility. And if and if Joe Thiesman thinks that,
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  Speaker 1: then Joe S. Thiesman needs to get a drug tip.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, okay, then Brett Farres said Davante Smith should
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  Speaker 1: be the pick at number one. Well, it's a wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver look and and and Brett knows quarterbacks and uh
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  Speaker 1: and and Brett's got and Brett's just you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: trying to be Uh. I guess you could say, look,
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  Speaker 1: he's a dynamic player, and there's no question he's an
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  Speaker 1: Alabama receiver, right j P the guy you're talking about player, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and what he was able to do in then in
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  Speaker 1: the National Championship, but I mean's just sick. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the guy was just unbelievable and one of the best
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  Speaker 1: games ever in the history of college sports, and certainly
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  Speaker 1: on that level of in the stage that he was on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't surpass that, or at least I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen a performance that would have been able to
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  Speaker 1: surpass that. So I think Brett Farve is just making
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  Speaker 1: a point that if you had to go a different
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  Speaker 1: direction than its, certainly that's the one to make. But
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  Speaker 1: Brett Farvel be the first one to tell you because
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  Speaker 1: Brett's no dummy, and that if he was making the decision,
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  Speaker 1: he'd be picking a quarterback. The man played the position,
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  Speaker 1: he knows how important quarterback is. And Brett's no dummy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's he isn't a little hot water from some people
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  Speaker 1: about his discussion of the Deshaun Watson situation and glass houses,
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  Speaker 1: you live in one, you better not throw stones. He
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  Speaker 1: had a similar situation when he was trying to get
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  Speaker 1: out of Green Bay and on the Minnesota Brett Brett,
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  Speaker 1: Brett could Brett's gotta kind of walk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: careful because Brett could have a lot of stones thrown
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  Speaker 1: against his glass house. Okay, for a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that he has had happened in his past. So Brett
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  Speaker 1: Brett Farve is certainly not above a lot of conversations
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  Speaker 1: or criticism, that's for sure. Let's come back. We've got
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  Speaker 1: plenty ahead. We'll touch on a couple of key positions
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  Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars evaluate those free agency is next
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  Speaker 1: up really for the Jags in the offseason calendar of
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  Speaker 1: events in the National Football League a little later. Some
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  Speaker 1: scouting changes in twenty twenty because of COVID nineteen will
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  Speaker 1: go around the National Football League as well. Roger Goodell
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  Speaker 1: discussing London today and many more things. We're off and running.
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  Speaker 1: they're going to get a really good football player at
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that number one pick overall, that that's exciting, though, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how many has there been? And this is something I
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• 19:27
  Speaker 1: selected number one overall? That's a great triviate question. And
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. And maybe Joe
• 19:35
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• 19:37
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  Speaker 1: and Ravens had never picked first overall three years ago. Okay,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: so I think that's still true. It's interesting, right, I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's only four teams, and uh, and the excitement level,
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• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was available. I mean Andrew Luck. When when
• 20:17
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• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the season, it was pretty much generally understood that that
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  Speaker 1: was the suck for Luck campaign, right, and everybody knew it,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: even though at the time everybody was saying, oh, the
• 20:30
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• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. They're going to go through the process. But
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the entire campaign of that season, they were talking about
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: teams sucking for Luck. I mean, that's you know, so
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and and this Trevor Lawrence thing, I think is very
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: similar as far as the caliber of player that people
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: are calling Trevor Lawrence at the collegiate level, this is
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: comparable and it creates excitement, and there's not many players
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  Speaker 1: that have come out of call that can create that
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  Speaker 1: level of excitement. And Andrew luck certainly was a unbelievable
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: skill set, his measurables, his arm strength, his intelligence, all
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  Speaker 1: of those things. But then you add how Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: win to that, and it takes it to a different
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  Speaker 1: level because Trevor Lawrence has one like no other quarterback
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  Speaker 1: has ever one at the levels that he's played out
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: so far, which is simply amazing. Big throws on big
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: stages and big moments for three full years really at Clemson.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: So he's done it in a lot of different ways,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and hopefully he can bring that to the National Football League.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: We're not saying it yet. We're not saying it yet,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but we've got a lot of talk ahead in a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: few months ahead before the well it's not that far
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: away now, right, it's February already. The draft will be
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: at the end of April. Let's talk now, logs about
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of key position groups here, and we could
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: talk about offensive line all day long, right, I mean,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that's I think if we're if we're looking at it,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the roster that's there now the interior guys to me,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and I think we've had this discussion already. The three
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: interior guys you can keep and enroll with those guys.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of salary there. There's some
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: better play to be desired, to think from the right
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: tackle from last year, Jowan Taylor probably he would be
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the first to tell you he didn't play up two expectations.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And then Cam Robinson was in a contract year last year.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: What will the new decision makers think of him? That's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: where we are in the offensive. And by the way,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell played under Urban Meyer his last two years
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: at Ohio State. This is Urban's first two years as
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the coach at Ohio State. That's a long time ago,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: but it never hurts to have him in your corner
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: from the old days. Um. But the big biggest question
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: on the line logs is left tackle. And we could
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: talk about Cam Robinson all day, but it's really a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: matter of what Trent Balky and Urban Meyer I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: he could do. What can they find in free agency,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: what could they find in the draft? Is it worth
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: giving him a franchise tag. There's a lot of question
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: marks around the left tackle. Well. I think the level
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: of interest in Cam Robinson is gonna be directly related
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to what they think they can get elsewhere, and that's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: in free agency and also the college draft. And so
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: there's a value that will be put on Cam Robinson
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: based on those other opinions, and that's going to be
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: formulated by the bright minds of Trent Balky urban Meyer
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and then whoever the announced offensive lines line coaches. So
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: but clearly, if you can get better at left tackle,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: then you go and get better. And getting better doesn't
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: necessarily mean going out and getting somebody different. It could
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: mean improving from the guy that you currently have, which
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: is Cam Robinson. So that's the nice about it is
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: that you know you've got an opportunity to work to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: maybe resign him before free agency starts, which nobody else
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: has an opportunity to do. So if your opinion is, look,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to do better in
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: college in the college draft, or we're not going to
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: be able to do better in free agency, then you
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: can now go ahead and start trying to make efforts
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to retain Cam Robinson. Does that mean it will work, No,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: not necessarily, because if a player is smart, they try
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to get the free agency to find out what their
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: direct value is. But the caveat this year is a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: little different, and that if you feel like the offer
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: is really good, there is a limited number of teams
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that are going to have the money to spend, so
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of take that into your into
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: your thinking if you're a player. So it's a challenging
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the year for a lot of free agents. And I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a lot of teams and a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: lot of players that are more apt to spend money
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: on shorten the teams spending the money and the players
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: taking the deals that are more short term oriented to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: be able to hopefully cash in later on once the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: league's economics recover from the COVID pandemic. Alright, g M,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Jeff Logevan, what would you do? Well? I mean, JP,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see the list. I just like I said,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see the list. Well, let me ask
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you a different way with my scout. Let me ask
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a different way. Then. Let me just ask about Cam
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Robinson's season, Because yes, we could go down the path
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of who's out there. I don't know yet all that stuff.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's just start with number seventy four. Did
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: he play well enough for you two? In theory, pay
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: him twelve million on the franchise um, and twelve million
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: is not that expensive for a football team that has
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the cap room and most franchise left tackles that recently
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in free agency were receiving sixteen seventeen million a year.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So it's twelve million an expensive number. Absolutely not. So
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't hesitate to offer that twelve million dollar, no
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: her and and a sign of one year value because
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you can franchise tegment twelve million and still try to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: acquire his eventual replacement. I would have no problem with that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: If I was making the decision, I would feel really
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: good about that, because you you know what he is.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You know, I get the best of both worlds. If
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I'm making that decision, I'm paying him twelve million, and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I get to keep it. I get to keep him,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and so I get to keep him. He can't go anywhere,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and so he's on my roster this year, and then
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that gives me a year to find his replacement for
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the following year, or eventually maybe even for this year
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: to worry about this year. That gives you a little
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of luxury. Yeah, one less
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: thing to worry about. They have a long list of
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: things to worry about already. If you can take a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: couple of those off the list by retaining or you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: changing the way things are done in contracts, then this
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: could be the year to do that for sure, especially
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: with the cap and the number coming down. There's plenty
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of room here. But all those changes can adjust everything
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: around the NFL. How do you feel about the interior guys.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I really liked the interior guys. First of all, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: think Norwall had an excellent year. Excellent. See there's a
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: lot of there's a narrative out there though that the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: fans just all over him all the time. That doesn't
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: think I think a couple of years ago that was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: probably within reason because he didn't have a great year.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: He was nicked up a little bit, he didn't play
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: very well. The team was throwing the ball a lot,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: which is really not his forte and didn't run the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: ball as well. And uh, but I thought the last
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: two years, this year of this past year especially, I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: thought Norwell played really well. Brandon Lender is a good
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: football player when he's on the field. Go to health
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the problem is that he's not always on the field JP.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: As we know, he's missed a lot of games over
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the last number of years, which has made the value
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of Tyler Shatley very high for this football team. I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: would not I would expect that Tyler Shatley is probably
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: gonna get a pretty lucrative contract to offer potentially to
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: be a starter somewhere else. And so you've got to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: find a guy that you feel confident that can play
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: snaps at center if Brandon Leonard does get hurt again,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and a J. Camp could be that guy, because a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: J has learned to snap over the last couple of
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: years and he could slide from guard into the center.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But you'd like to be able to find maybe a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: true center to groom and to develop to feel good
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: about if Lender can't play all right, so that you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: have it our offensive line discussion. There are plenty of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: other names in the hot Bird and the hat around
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: here on that line, but we'll save those for a
• 28:36
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• 28:39
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• 28:41
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• 28:45
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• 28:49
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  Speaker 1: Sitting in the film room at Alabama or wherever they are,
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• 34:44
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  Speaker 1: you better have a solid rollodex of of people to
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  Speaker 1: refer to for background information some of these guys. It's
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: just much different this year in the information gathering stage.
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  Speaker 1: And and Bucky and I actually talked about this a
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  Speaker 1: That's right, it's true, and uh joking, of course, it's
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  Speaker 1: point with that, when within with Bucky, we both kind
• 35:31
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• 35:33
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• 35:36
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• 35:40
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• 35:45
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• 35:48
  Speaker 1: games that they could play. So scouts are or like
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to trust what they see and and totally understand that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: And so the challenge this year is they is making
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of decisions and rankings and evaluations based on
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: projections and faith. And that's very hard to do because
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you can second guess guess those type of decisions very easily.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And I think the one advantage that Trent Balky has
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: with the Jaguars and being in place when he was
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: hired January February whenever it was, is that he's had
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: some time to kind of sit back. And I'm sure
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that that wasn't his plan, but everybody does this is
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that when you work with people, you have a tendency
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to to categorize them. You want to find out what
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: their opinions are on certain players. You want to find
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: out what kind of value that they have, how good
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: they are at their jobs, to put it quite simply, so,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Balky has had an opportunity for the past year essentially
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: to evaluate the current Jaguar scouting staff and to learn
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: who he can trust from the standpoint of whose opinions
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: are good and then also maybe who he can't trust,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: who he thinks opinions aren't very good on evaluating talent.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: So because Trent Balky and herber Meyer can't do the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: scouting process all by themselves, they have to have help,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and you have to have people you can trust. And
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: so Balky has had some time approximately a year, to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: find out who he can and who he cannot trust.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: And when I say not trust, I don't mean that
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: somebody's a bad guy and somebody's gonna leak information or
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: something of that nature. But let's say Joe Schmoe, one
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: scout is looking at a player who is he's saying
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: is really good, and the other nine scouts say he stinks.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: And in the past that guy was totally wrong, so
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you you believe that his opinion is not very good.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: So anyway, it's my point is that you can find
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: out who you can trust and you can't trust, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: whose information is good and who information is not good.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And that's that's important, especially for Trent Balky and herber Meyer,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: because a lot of the scouting AFT changes don't happen
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: until after the draft. The Trent Balky won't maybe change
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a director of whatever personnel under him until after the draft.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: So uh so it's good that he's had some time
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: to evaluate because you have somebody that was brought in
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: from the outside to come in. Now they're in a
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: position to where they're going, Oh my gosh, I can't
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: trust anybody. I just got to do it all myself.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: But I mean, you just can't do it. So you
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: have to trust and it's good to know who to trust.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And then for those who aren't don't follow the scouting
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: process in the in the building that closely. The reason
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: why you don't, you're you inherit scouts and the scouting
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: staff for the most part, And those changes happen after
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the draft because basically they've done all the work already.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: They know where all the bodies are buried, they know
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: what So you're not gonna bring in a whole staff
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: in theory, right, you know in the draft room, they
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: know what's going on. Well, I think I think most
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: scouting staffs or or the head of the scouting staf,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: general managers or director of player personnel, whoever's in charge,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: is less apt to let somebody go because they feel
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: like that if you let a player go, or let
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: a somebody go who's in scouting, let him go before
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the draft, they can take your information and and take
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it somewhere else, and they don't want people to do that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: That's the bodies are buried. That's that's what they do.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: That we're not. We're not They're not gonna burny buried
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: bodies JP around around the stadium. But but I get
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: your point and that you don't want to allow that
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: information to go somewhere else, because here's the reality. A
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: lot of us don't even start trying to, Like, for example,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks just put out his draft rankings one point
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: oh on the NFL network. I saw that he just
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: put it out, and of course I read his stuff
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and I follow a lot of his stuff, and so
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: it's stuff like that you want to read. But the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: reality is is that teams have been working on their
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: draft rankings for a long time. I mean the work
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that they've been doing on draft eligible players for this spring.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: It started even before last year's draft, and so their
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: ranking system probably has existed for months. And so I'm
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: sure that they have the Jaguars one point oh two
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: point oh, three point four point probably already. And then
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: now that Trent Balky has has been hired, he doesn't
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: want those those four draft rankings to leave the building.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And to depart with somebody else, even though it might
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: not be on paper, but it might be up in
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: their minds. So that's why you typically see most new
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: general managers wait until after the draft to make changes.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: But there has been some instances where as soon as
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: guys get hired, some guys get fired, and typically when
• 40:50
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• 40:54
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• 40:57
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our j P. Shadrick with Jeff Blagerman,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us today it is Super Bowl week.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: We'll get to some of the comments from Roger Goodell
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: coming up, the commissioner of the National Football League with
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: his annual Super Bowl press conference today, will get his
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: thoughts on London and a little bit more. Well, you
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: know there was a former Jaguar who has on the
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: retired reserved list, Kelvin Smith, Right, we all kind of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: know the story the last couple of years with him
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: off the field. Well, he tweeted yesterday the first time
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: in like a year and a half and he said
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's time with the hand on his chin emoji,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: And of course Twitter is blowing up trying to figure
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: out what the heck he's talking about. I'm not here
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: to try to figure out what he's talking about, because
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you try to do that on Twitter, You're you're barking
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: up the wrong tree most times logs. So you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure the status of his legal issues, but um,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I'm curious what could happen. Could he could he come back,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: he could unretire and technically right, sure? Sure? And uh
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: and could this be uh his way of being kind
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: of sneaky sneak you press release? I mean, I don't know.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what people's intentions are sometimes
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: on Twitter because JP sometimes Twitter just takes you nowhere
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and social media overall sometimes gets you nowhere. Perfectly honest
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: with you, right, So if you if you've got something
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to say, then say it has always been my opinion, Okay,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: don't don't try to be cute, And and if Telvin
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: wants to play football again, and then Telvin need to
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: say I want to play football again and needs to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: take necessary step to do so so and until something
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: is said from Telvin, I'll just continue to ignore Twitter now.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And also this also takes two to tango, by the way,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, if you were on retire and jump
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: through all the hoops and do that. I would guess
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that the organization is not quite having much momentum to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: move forward on that, you know, even though there's a
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: new regime and all that that, With everything that's happened
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I would think the appetite
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: is really small right now. Well, Jeff, I mean, I mean,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: all this talk is all hypothetical because we have you know, uh,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: because they have an announced to staff yet basically a
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: forward Twitter response from a player who played for the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Jaguars a few years ago. I mean, are we going
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to have an over reaction to that? I'm not And
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I'm more excited about the things that are up and
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: coming for this football team. And I'm not that excited
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: for the unknowns, and I would categorize this into the unknown,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: so it is a different unknown. So on that note,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: let's move forward and discuss what Roger Goodell had to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: say today. The National Football League commissioner was in Tampa
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: for his annual Super Bowl press conference and he was
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: asked about the status of the London games logs, and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: here's what he said to our good friend Richard Graves
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: of Sky Sports. He was asked about the international series
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: in the future. During the pandemic, he said, we hope
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to get back there in one and we are planning
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: for it. We will make that decision when we have
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: enough information to do so. So the plans are still
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: in the works. They're planning like they're going to be
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: able to do it. We'll see obviously all the restrictions
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and everything if they stay in the UK and even
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: here in the United States and in different locales, that
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: could change everything. But plan as normal as you can
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: until you're told otherwise. That's the basic thing. Now. The
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Jaguars do not have a contract currently for Wembley, for London,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: for anything, so the league would have to start this
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: process of having the games happen and then um, we'll
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: see what the Jaguars do in response. Well, here here's
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: my thoughts on that. JP First and foremost, I think
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: it would be incredibly tough to to make a plan
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: or to formulate a plan that can be executed in
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to get a team to go on any team for
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: that matter, to go over to play games in London.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I think it would be incredibly challenging to expect the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: vactination levels to reach a point where you feel comfortable
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: allowing a team to travel in nationally because there's so
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: many variables that would come into play about trying to
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: keep your team safe. So I think that's probably a
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: little bit of maybe getting a little bit ahead of
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the game right there. But look, there's absolutely nothing wrong
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: with trying to plan that way. And I think that
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, even though we sit there and say they
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: don't have a contract, look uh, the the bargaining positions
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and and the and the talk. The Jaguars have done
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: that dance before and I don't think it would take
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: much to be able to accomplish and to reach an
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: agreement with playing games and Wimbley again or at another
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: facility if it suits the Jaguars interest. So um, they
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: certainly have an advantage in that, and that the team
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: has been willing to play in the past, and they
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: have certainly become pretty good at executing the plans over there.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: They've had a London based office over there for a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: number of earth and they have a presence over there.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: So I would not be surprised if if the Jaguars
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: were the first team at some point, if the news
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: finally does come out that teams are gonna play in
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: London again that the Jaguars would be a part of
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: that mix, and I would expect them to be so,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: but I think it's just gonna be incredibly difficult to
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: accomplish that. Goodell also said that we're talking about the
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: offseason program coming up. That's really the next big thing
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: for the veterans, and that starts around April. Guys can
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: come back in for offseason workouts in the gym, and
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: then a few weeks later it's the phase system and
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: all that. Well, we didn't have any of that last
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: year because the COVID it was all virtual. Goodell said
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: today that virtual will be part of our life for
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the long term, So there will be I would guess
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: obviously at some point they'll try to have guys back
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: on the field. Who wasn't too specific today on that point,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: but the virtual part worked out pretty well. There were
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: guys that took advantage of that opportunity. A guy like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: James Robinson, right, undrafted guy was in the film room,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms every day, took it to heart
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and then when he finally had a chance to get
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: on the field in July, you saw what happened. Yeah,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, JP I think you can definitely When
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: when Rogers talking about virtual is going to be a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: part of our future, I think he's talking about more
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: from in the past. We've seen the the O t
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: A s and things of that nature, and I think
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: that that the virtual aspect will probably replace some of
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: that this year. So in other words, instead of having
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the fourteen organized team activities, you now have virtual meetings
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and such to replace that. But I believe this year
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that they will find a way to hold mini camp
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: of some nature and to institute testing leading up to
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: that to where they can feel safe about having their
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: team because the league proved that they can do it
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: in a safe manner this past season. So you start
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to implement those type of procedures and and UH and
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: principles and used to to get ready to do a
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: mini camp, and maybe the mini camp through collective bargaining
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and gets extended a little bit instead of being three days,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: it might be three days, and then all of a
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: sudden they changed the tempo and allow you to make
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: it a little bit longer. Kay, let's bring all the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: players in and since we don't have O t A s,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: will just make an extend and mini camps will bring
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: players in, have them test, make sure everybody's safe, We're
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: all safe, and and then that way we can accomplish
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit on the field, because look, football isn't
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: on the field sport. And even though that you had
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: a guy like James Robinson who had a wildly successful
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: rookie year and he was an undrafted player. Look, there's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of players that I'm sure slipped through the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: cracks just because they didn't have an opportunity to show
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: what they have on the field and o t a
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: s and mini camp and training camp because coaches and
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: organizations are trying to hit the ground running and get
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: ready for a season and they didn't have the luxury
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: or the wherewithal to allow young player to develop. Now,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars were in a little different category last year. Hey,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: they had all young players. So it wasn't like they
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: will say, you know, we don't want James Robinson, We're
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: gonna use him instead, because their choices were James Robinson
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, and that was a pretty bold decision to make.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: But then the other choices, be perfectly honest, sweetie, JP,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: they weren't that good, right there, you have it, So
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: a couple of comments from the commissioner today and now
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: it's of course Super Bowl coming up Sunday. Goodell also
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: said today that Tom Brady was quote probably the greatest
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: player to ever play this game. He's not far off.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait wait, did he actually use the word probably? Yes,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: that's right. Well, I mean, you know he's the commissioner.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: He can't just go out and Roger, right, I mean
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: really probably. I mean we're talking about ten super Bowls.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: He could win his seven and you're using the term probably.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's played in a Super Bowl for half
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: of his career. Yere ten out of how many? How
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: many championship games? JP? Has he played in? Fourteen fifteen?
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy fourteen fifteen, fifteen was this year? Was fifteen? Right?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: And we're saying probably he's played an eighteen percent of
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: all Super Bowls all time. About that, Roger, I think
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: we can say that Tom Brady is is the greatest
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: of all time. And I think what we're watching right
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: now is somebody that could be the next in line.
• 54:36
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  Speaker 1: Right here? Mer? Part of the show and he says, Hi, Hey, Merle,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the program. And I know there's probably a
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  Speaker 1: frisbee in his future, right, he loves frisbee. I wish uh.
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  Speaker 1: He probably is a little disappointed that his dad doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have the arm that some other people might have throwing
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  Speaker 1: a frisbee because I can't throw it far enough for him.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's a that's a frisbee chasing dog. No, no't
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  Speaker 1: know what what's the breed? What's the breed? He is
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  Speaker 1: a miniature Australian shepherd And it's pretty cool. We named
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  Speaker 1: him Merle just because the coloring that he has is
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  Speaker 1: called blue Merle, and so they have like red murrow Bluemurle,
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  Speaker 1: which is the redmulls like a brown and a mix
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  Speaker 1: of the other colors. The blue Earle is the gray
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  Speaker 1: with a mix of the other colors. So anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: like the name Merle, not because a Merle Haggard A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people think that's it, just because I like
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  Speaker 1: the name and that was the color phase he was.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, when we we got him, we didn't know
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  Speaker 1: this or didn't get him with the intention of this,
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  Speaker 1: that his grandfather was a grand National champion frisbee dog.
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  Speaker 1: And so when he was a puppy, I had this
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  Speaker 1: little cloth frisbees to roll in the backyard. None of
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  Speaker 1: this is totally off football, but eventually taught him to
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  Speaker 1: catch frisbees in and he's an absolute nut. You can
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  Speaker 1: throw a frisbee two yards and he'll catch him out
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  Speaker 1: of the air, jump five or six ft high, catching
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  Speaker 1: them and and does all these things almost like the
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  Speaker 1: you know the X game when dudes jump their bikes
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  Speaker 1: and jump and they kick it out and stuff. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Merle does that when he catches frisbee. So we'll jump
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  Speaker 1: up to the air, catch the frisbee and turned sideways
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  Speaker 1: and then land like a cat. So pretty cool. You've
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  Speaker 1: pretty You've had a couple of very illustrious careers. National
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  Speaker 1: Football League player, radio broadcaster for a long time outdoor
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  Speaker 1: show and the Jaguars. If if it doesn't work out,
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  Speaker 1: you could go throw frisbees around at halftime of NBA games. Halftime, Baby,
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  Speaker 1: I am perfect. I am totally available for halftime entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: I can leave the booth, be down on the field,
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  Speaker 1: me and Merle put on a show and then be
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  Speaker 1: back up in the booth. And you know, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm cheap. I mean, I'm really cheap for halftime entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: Aren't we all entertained? Yes, we are all right. So
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  Speaker 1: the game coming up Sunday in Tampa the Buccaneers and
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady has been sitting in his house watching film
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  Speaker 1: for twelve days straight. By the time Sunday comes around
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  Speaker 1: without Giselle and the kids there and then, the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: have haircut issues. As you heard in the open of
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  Speaker 1: the program today. They've had a couple of guys added
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  Speaker 1: to the COVID list this week through a line of
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  Speaker 1: about twenty guys waiting to get their hair cut, and
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  Speaker 1: one was half done when they pulled the barber out
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  Speaker 1: of the facility after his positive test. I'm curious what
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  Speaker 1: his hair looks like. But uh, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Those guys could come back on the weekend on Saturday
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  Speaker 1: and be eligible to play on Sunday if they remain negative.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's cheaps by ten. They pull away in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter with their speed outlasting Tampa Bay probably
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  Speaker 1: dirty five to somewhere in there. I would agree with you,
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  Speaker 1: and and not so much the speed, but I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think that Tampa's defense can can uh keep up
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  Speaker 1: with Kansas City. Kansas City almost has the ability to
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  Speaker 1: flip a switch whenever they want to and whatever they
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  Speaker 1: need to really to really amp it up. And Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes is a great talent. This might be jp one
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  Speaker 1: of the most anticipated Super Bowls for me personally that
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  Speaker 1: that I just can't wait to watch it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we really are. We're watching, and we're very fortunate. We're
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  Speaker 1: incredibly fortunate that we're watching the greatest of all time
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  Speaker 1: and arguably the greatest young player of all time. And
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  Speaker 1: it's it's so rare that you have that type of
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  Speaker 1: situation on the field at the same time, and so
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  Speaker 1: we we've got to cherish that because something like this
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  Speaker 1: may never come along ever again. And and I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to watch it. And Tampa's defense is going to
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  Speaker 1: have to play incredibly well for them to win. Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady is going to have to protect the football because
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  Speaker 1: if he has a game like what he had against
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay, Kansas City will boat race them because they're
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  Speaker 1: that good on offense and they're that explosive on offense.
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  Speaker 1: So Tampa's got to play really well. And here's the
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  Speaker 1: crazy thing. Tampa has the ability to do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they certainly do. They certainly do. So get the Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Chicken dip, ready lugs and enjoy the game. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to JP. I got ready, man, the chicken chicken in
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  Speaker 1: my blue cheese and tiger sauce is ready. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Logman, Joe Fortunado, Brett Reaber, our entire crew. I'm JP, Shadrick.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for watching, Thank you for listening. Enjoy the
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
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