Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / Pink Floyd
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- 0:33It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
- 0:37band. That's right.
- 0:38We have done all the work for you.
- 0:40All you have to do is press play and listen by the work.
- 0:42I mean, we slogged through the records, we plucked out songs,
- 0:47we made a list, and we're going to compile them into a top 10
- 0:50starter kit list for you. Oh boy, we did the work.
- 0:55But you could say that I'm band curious and I like to, I like to
- 1:01dive into conversations with my friends about the bands that
- 1:04they love and find out why they love them.
- 1:07And my name is Justin. I've, I've tried to get better
- 1:10at doing that because I never actually introduced myself, but
- 1:14my name is Justin. I am your humble host and you
- 1:18could say I don't know which one do we want to start with.
- 1:22You know, we're just another pod in the wall or another brick in
- 1:24the wall. You know, whatever man.
- 1:26You know, I'm going to go low effort because this is this
- 1:31one's been a long time coming. Fredo.
- 1:33This is literally, I think after you did Devo, you gave me a list
- 1:38of bands that you wanted to do. And this one, actually you, you
- 1:42and the person who did Devo put this on the board at the same
- 1:45time. And it's just sat there for, I
- 1:48don't know, 78 years now. So Pink Floyd, man, talk to me
- 1:53about Pink Floyd. I can't even remember why I put
- 1:56it. It was so long ago.
- 1:58Like I've gotten out of Pink Floyd and back into Pink Floyd.
- 2:02That's how long it's been nice a ma No Sir.
- 2:06Pink Floyd is, is one of the essential bands that if you grew
- 2:12up and if you're of my age group, it was one of the
- 2:17essential bands that you got into as you got into music.
- 2:21You know, getting into Pink Floyd was a rite of passage.
- 2:26It was a, it was an opening yourself up to a whole new, a
- 2:35whole new area of music. Everything that would come after
- 2:42Pink Floyd in the sense of your musical growth that is of any
- 2:49significance in my era started with Pink Floyd.
- 2:55So even if you got into punk, if you got into hip hop, if you got
- 2:59into whatever, it was Pink Floyd that made you realize that it
- 3:06didn't have to be what everybody expected out of music.
- 3:12And so I've so I've been a huge Floyd fan ever.
- 3:16Plus the fact that Dark Side of the Moon, which people will hear
- 3:21mentioned a million times throughout this podcast, is my
- 3:24favorite album of all time. I owe well tied with Depeche
- 3:29Mode Violator. I own 28 copies of it.
- 3:32Yeah, I was going to say, as many times as we've had, you
- 3:35know, these type of conversations, I'd never heard
- 3:37that. Yeah, no.
- 3:39Pink Floyd is is is tied with the Depeche Mode.
- 3:42Violator is my favorite album of all time.
- 3:46Yeah, like I said, I own 28 copies of it.
- 3:48That's wild. All right, so I want to say
- 3:53somewhere in that, that senior again, we're talking 2016,
- 3:57Peter. So almost 10 years ago, you got
- 3:59a dig in your brain. You you jumped on and said you
- 4:03would do it and it just sat and sat and sat.
- 4:05So now that it's finally happening, talk to me about Pink
- 4:07Floyd. They're just one of the all time
- 4:12greatest classic rock bands, but they're not quite like the other
- 4:17classic rock bands. Like they're not really flashy,
- 4:20like they're really good musicians, but they play what
- 4:25needs to be played instead of showing off.
- 4:28And the run of albums that that that we're going to cover in the
- 4:3370s is one of like the best run of albums ever by a band.
- 4:38And I'm just jazzed to talk about them.
- 4:42I can't wait. I mean, you know, sometimes it's
- 4:46the the simplest way forward. And I think this is your answer
- 4:49is going to be somewhat similar, Chris, because I believe you
- 4:52officially jumped on the Floyd bandwagon after we said we we
- 4:57said you must do Rush. And so I think after that
- 5:03episode, you said, yeah, I'd love to do Floyd.
- 5:04So talk to me about Pink Floyd, Chris.
- 5:09This is the one band that I could probably talk for hours
- 5:12about, so I'm going to try not to do that for the sake of your
- 5:15hard drive. I for me, it's 1979 and there is
- 5:22a before another brick in the wall and after another brick in
- 5:25the wall. Brick 2 was charted and it was I
- 5:29I heard Casey Kasem on American Top 40 bring it up and I'd heard
- 5:35Brick 2, at which at the time was the neatest guitar solo I'd
- 5:39ever heard. And I'm nine years old.
- 5:42We don't need no education is something every kid can relate
- 5:45to at one point or another. But then FM 99 came along and,
- 5:50and prior to that, I'm listening to, you know, whatever mom and
- 5:54dad are listening to. I found FM 99 and every five
- 5:59songs was a Pink Floyd song on FM 99 for a minute.
- 6:03And I went then to buy buy the my first Pink Floyd album, which
- 6:06was which was The Wall. And of course I loved that.
- 6:12But then I went and got Dark Side of the Moon and and that
- 6:16was great. You say it's one of the best
- 6:19albums that I say it's one of the greatest albums ever made.
- 6:24But then I got some early stuff that we're not covering, like
- 6:29the soundtrack to more or something like that.
- 6:31And I said this is what my head sounds like.
- 6:34And, and I was, I was hooked. And I've been following Roger
- 6:39and David and everything that goes with that ever since.
- 6:43I you said a couple things that I feel one thing that we for
- 6:46sure need to revisit and after the fact, this is what my head
- 6:49sounds like. So everybody please put a pin in
- 6:51that. We're going to come back to that
- 6:53on after the fact. And one other thing I want to
- 6:55address before we move into our last panelist is it's funny you
- 6:58mentioned we don't need no education.
- 7:00Every kid can, you know, relate to that?
- 7:02My kid got in the car the other day and and hooked up their
- 7:06phone to just charge it and it automatically switched to her
- 7:11phone. And when a when it automatically
- 7:14popped on, she was listening to brick too.
- 7:18And I, you know, I didn't expose her to that.
- 7:21Like they she found that on her own.
- 7:24I was like, oh, wow, that's that's interesting.
- 7:26So it's funny that you mentioned that when I literally just
- 7:29experienced that earlier this week.
- 7:31So Chad, you got roped into this through Fredo.
- 7:38So talk to me about Pink Floyd and how, you know, how did he
- 7:41rope you and what made you, what made him?
- 7:44What did he say that made you go?
- 7:46Yes, I'd like to punish myself in this way.
- 7:50It's funny you phrase it that way because actually I would
- 7:52argue it's quite the opposite. Infredo could probably attest to
- 7:55this. But after the rush episode, good
- 7:58friends with Bob and Fredo both. And so, you know, we're just
- 8:01talking about music and he we're talking about the show
- 8:04eventually. And I was like, man, I just
- 8:06really like the sound of that show, that idea.
- 8:08And I had been looking through the the previous playlist.
- 8:10It goes back to yours, of course, And I said to Fredo, I
- 8:13said, where's where's Pink Floyd?
- 8:15Like I was shocked because that's, that's probably my
- 8:18favorite band of all time. And so they, yeah, that's,
- 8:21that's actually kind of what led me to get involved with this.
- 8:24I'm not nearly as, as musically knowledgeable as, as Fredo or
- 8:28Bob, but when it comes to Pink Floyd, I'm definitely fairly
- 8:33well schooled, I guess. And, and I've been a fan, gosh,
- 8:35since I was in high school, which is, which is funny because
- 8:39you know, I'm, I'm a little younger than Fredo, but not
- 8:41much. But, you know, I, I graduated in
- 8:4495. So when you look at the, the,
- 8:46the, the albums and when they're released, I mean, basically I
- 8:49missed Pink Floyd, but I had a great dad.
- 8:51I had a cool dad, you know, And so I got to hear the good stuff.
- 8:55And my first exposure was probably actually The Wall or
- 8:59Momentary Lapse of Reason as far as what I heard.
- 9:03And then I kind of worked backwards from there and 95, you
- 9:07know, I graduate high school, you know, after I've been a Pink
- 9:09Floyd fan for like two or three years and just listen to it on
- 9:12the radio and, and tapes. And then we migrated the CDs and
- 9:15I joined the Marine Corps and I get the box set as a, as a boot
- 9:18camp graduation gift. And man, from there it was on.
- 9:22Then I discovered everything about him and fell in love, read
- 9:24a book or two. Just their, their weird love for
- 9:27cats, like just some of the weird things about them.
- 9:30And so, yeah, so that's what brought me here.
- 9:32Thanks to Fredo actually. So I'm actually honored just to
- 9:34be a part of it and participate. Well, I have a feeling that once
- 9:38we get to the song selection part you, you won't feel the
- 9:42same. But we'll cross that bridge when
- 9:44we get there. So I am obviously, you know, a
- 9:49big reason why this took nearly 10 years to do because Pink
- 9:53Floyd, other than the songs I already knew, was completely new
- 9:57to me. I, of course got exposed to Dark
- 9:59Side of the Oz. You know, at this point,
- 10:01probably 15, maybe even 20 years ago, somebody tried to do that.
- 10:05And oh, dork saw the Oz And I was like, oh, man, that sounds
- 10:08fun. Let's do that.
- 10:09And, you know, I just was thoroughly unimpressed with with
- 10:13it it, you know, so like that kind of left a weird taste in my
- 10:18mouth when it comes to like just the band in this show.
- 10:23I I kind of briefly alluded there was another person there
- 10:26with Fredo. When Pink Floyd got put on the
- 10:28board, that person kind of fell off the face of the earth.
- 10:31Nothing against them, just they disappeared.
- 10:34And because of that, I kind of just kept sidelining it.
- 10:37And when you look at the discography, especially at the
- 10:41time in 2016 when this show started, we did everything and
- 10:46woof, like, no, thank you. So you know it.
- 10:52I feel like this is both the perfect time for this band to
- 10:55come up on the show and also the worst time.
- 10:58And we'll get into why it's the worst time next go around.
- 11:02We did. Do you know, as Peter mentioned,
- 11:04like, you know, the perfect run and somebody actually not
- 11:08knowing what era we covered brought up the run that we
- 11:11covered as essential. Like they when I asked threads,
- 11:16hey, what do you consider essential?
- 11:18Somebody said this run didn't mention songs, just these albums
- 11:22specifically. So I think we nailed it.
- 11:25But when you're looking at this, Fredo, and you're trying to put
- 11:29together a list of 20 for this, like, what are you looking at?
- 11:33Because it it feels, it felt like it could be.
- 11:37And I'll, I'll get into this when it's my turn.
- 11:39Like it felt like it could be just really difficult.
- 11:43Well, you know, this run is essential, and I'll tell you
- 11:48why. If you look at the history of
- 11:49Pink Floyd, it starts off with with a guy named Sid Barrett,
- 11:55right? And this is when Pink Floyd,
- 11:58this is early Pink Floyd, when it's really psychedelic and he,
- 12:05you know, he does one too many hits and he goes away, actually
- 12:10goes crazy. And, and then David Gilmour
- 12:13joins in. And now you have David Gilmour,
- 12:16you have Roger Waters, Nick Mason and Richard Wright.
- 12:22Those are the four members of Floyd who take us throughout
- 12:25this run. Then there's a rift between
- 12:30Gilmour and and Roger Waters and Roger Waters leaves, tries to
- 12:39disband Pink Floyd doesn't happen.
- 12:41And then you have the two or three or four albums at 3
- 12:47albums, I believe after the final cut, which is Pink Floyd
- 12:51without Roger Waters. So this run is is the essential
- 13:00Floyd. This is this.
- 13:02This has all characteristics of Floyd.
- 13:06And as we start to go through the albums, you will hear some
- 13:12mention of songs off of the first album that we that I, I
- 13:15believe we started with metal and we'll have elements of
- 13:20everything before, before Sid Barrett left.
- 13:24So you will hear some of that psychedelic stuff.
- 13:29Obviously as we get to the final cut.
- 13:31It's the last album with Roger Waters.
- 13:33At that point, Pink Floyd has established its sound.
- 13:36Roger Waters at that point who was the main the main writer,
- 13:40The main lyricist goes away, but the sound is 100% still Pink
- 13:48Floyd. Roger Waters and and and Gilmore
- 13:53split vocals up until that point.
- 13:55So you don't lose a lot in the sense of Van Halen loses David
- 14:03Lee Roth and you don't know where, where the sound is,
- 14:07right? But Pink Floyd loses Roger
- 14:10Waters, David Gilmour does a good chunk of their songs.
- 14:16You're not really, you're not losing much in the sense of
- 14:19vocals. So they're able to to keep the
- 14:21sound, but the writing is affected because, again, because
- 14:28Roger Waters was the main writer.
- 14:31So it's a, it is the essential run.
- 14:35And and I think as, as we discussed it, the Pink Floyd
- 14:41aficionados in the group were like, yeah, that's exactly where
- 14:44it needs to start. That's exactly where it needs to
- 14:46end. So Peter, I know you were
- 14:49having, having issues putting your 20 together for this one,
- 14:52like when you're looking at it again, you, you had a different
- 14:56idea for for the list, but then you kind of came to the same
- 14:59conclusion as this is what we need to cover.
- 15:02What What were you looking for in your 20 on this?
- 15:08This was hard because when we settled on doing this particular
- 15:13run, I was just like, there's no bad songs.
- 15:18Like what do I cut here? I mentioned in the chat that I
- 15:24like I got to my 20, but I'm really not happy about it.
- 15:30So like there are some obvious cuts like, you know, some
- 15:34interludes in the wall and stuff like that.
- 15:39But there's no bad songs on on this run of albums.
- 15:45And I don't know, this was this was really tough.
- 15:53Yeah, I don't know. I got my 20th and that's it.
- 15:58I mean, again, sometimes, man, sometimes that's the answer.
- 16:03Chris, this is, you know, you're still early in your number of
- 16:06deprogrammed episodes. You haven't done many, but you
- 16:11know, you're looking at like the weight of what we covered here,
- 16:15you know, after coming off of, you know, a heavy hitting rush
- 16:18episode looking at Pink Floyd, was this any easier?
- 16:22And, and what was, you know, what were you looking at when
- 16:24you're when you're bringing the songs in?
- 16:27Oh, hell no. The for me, and and this is a
- 16:33discussion or question that came up I think early on when we
- 16:36started talking about this is one of the problems with picking
- 16:41a Pink Floyd song. Is that a in the case of one
- 16:45album, the main song, I guess you could say bookends the
- 16:51album, the first five parts and then the last five parts are,
- 16:54are the first beginning and end of an album.
- 16:58Then you have this, an album where three of the songs of the
- 17:01five are, yeah, 10 minutes plus. And the two beginning and ending
- 17:05song, which you could easily cut out maybe is 2 minutes total,
- 17:10you know? And how do you count those songs
- 17:14that have multiple parts? Are they all one thing or are
- 17:18they like Brick Is it? Are you counting Brick one bit
- 17:222, Brick 3 as three separate songs?
- 17:25I have not. So we get to stuff like that,
- 17:29that there are multiple parts. I'm considering them all as one
- 17:33song if that makes sense. Yeah.
- 17:36That's the only way I could get through this.
- 17:38Yeah, yeah. So I mean, you're, you're
- 17:40hearing, you're listening to all this Chad.
- 17:42And you know, this is your your first go here and I know you
- 17:45were super excited and you know, maybe you still are.
- 17:50I mean, walk me through like once we decide, hey, this is
- 17:56what we're covering, walk me through what you're looking at
- 17:59to bring songs here. So I had kind of two criteria,
- 18:05two ways of looking at it and I'm and I'm still, I think I've
- 18:09decided which way I'm leaning, but I'll I think I'll save that
- 18:11because I think it fits into some of the arguments later
- 18:13probably. But I had two ways of looking at
- 18:16it. What do I like and what would
- 18:18someone new to Pink Floyd like? And I think that matters
- 18:21significantly because as I believe it was Nick, the
- 18:24previous gentleman was speaking about, you know, the, the music
- 18:27is so interesting and it, and it's ready to alluded to as
- 18:30well. The way it evolved over time
- 18:33from the Sid Barrett, the ace to the period we're covering to
- 18:36even afterwards, the the post Roger Waters period.
- 18:41There's just so much there to choose from.
- 18:44So I would agree there was a lot to choose from.
- 18:46It was a it was a heck of a period, but I think it was the
- 18:49right mix, the discography that we ultimately ended on the
- 18:52albums we chose, I think was the right approach, the right cut.
- 18:56So for me, I, I had to weigh those two things out.
- 19:00What do I like? What speaks to me?
- 19:02And then of course, what speaks to me is different than what
- 19:05speaks to anyone else, which is the beauty of, of, of art, you
- 19:07know, music, poetry, whatever it may be, paintings, it, it's all
- 19:11different. And then, and then again, the
- 19:14other piece was if I wanted to try to entice someone to listen
- 19:18to Pink Floyd, where, where do I want to take him and where do I?
- 19:21And, and most most importantly, where do you want to start with
- 19:23#1 and then end on #10 to, to kind of walk him through that
- 19:26evolution, if that's your approach.
- 19:28So that's kind of what I did. Yeah, and as somebody who was
- 19:35essentially, you know, you can only be but so new to Pink
- 19:38Floyd, right. Like, you know, I'm 44, so like
- 19:42I'm aware of Pink Floyd. You know, I'm not completely
- 19:46unaware. I've never done the dive.
- 19:48You know, I'm aware of the stuff that's crossed over into
- 19:51mainstream. There's there's two things I
- 19:56want to I want to mention here. Number one, the songs that I
- 19:59already knew. Like this was the perfect time
- 20:02to hear them and I, they were songs that just kind of existed
- 20:08in my life before before this and are now songs that I really
- 20:12enjoyed and really felt in a very different way.
- 20:19And then the other thing is this was miserable.
- 20:21And I don't mean in the cute, you know, rush way of I don't
- 20:26know what to cut. I, I mean, I, I had a miserable
- 20:29time with this. I feel like I could like this
- 20:35band if there wasn't the pressure of I have to, I have to
- 20:40pick out songs to get somebody to like this band because it, it
- 20:44this feels like you're going to know if you if you're into Floyd
- 20:48or not like this. This feels like a band that you
- 20:51really only need to hear kind of like one or two things and you
- 20:54go, OK, yeah, that's something I can click in on.
- 20:57And it, it feels like if you're not into it at all, you're going
- 21:00to already just be out. You like I, you know, it.
- 21:08It feels unlike with with with Rush, it was like, I just wish I
- 21:13had more time, you know, just to kind of ingest the song.
- 21:17So I had more to say about them, but I could get the gist of what
- 21:21was happening with this. We had a month, I think since we
- 21:27put this panel together and I was trying to ingest all of this
- 21:33stuff in a month and it was pure misery.
- 21:37And I mean, I didn't expect it to be fun.
- 21:42When you look at a song that is 25 minutes long on on the first
- 21:45album that we covered, I didn't expect to have fun with with
- 21:49that part of this. But this feels like a band that
- 21:54really shouldn't be in a conversation like this.
- 21:56It really should be. It feels like a band that you'd
- 21:59kind of sit on your back porch and pop on a record and and you
- 22:03just listen to it and talk to your friends about without
- 22:06Mike's being present. You know, all that to say not I
- 22:12did not not like them. You know what I mean?
- 22:15It I think it's I could and should like them more, but the
- 22:20the weight of the show really took away from from what I think
- 22:27I could have gotten from the band.
- 22:29I hope that makes sense. Yeah, no, it, it makes sense.
- 22:33Here's the thing. And and this is where, you know,
- 22:35I don't feel bad for you very often.
- 22:37You, you, you deserve everything that you get because of how you
- 22:41act and and and and what you choose to do in your life.
- 22:44So that's on you. But I felt bad because I
- 22:47completely understand now. But those of you you know
- 22:51little, peek behind the curtain, Justin, at any moment that's got
- 22:555 or 6 bands that he's trying to learn a discography.
- 23:00At minimum. Because yeah, because Justin,
- 23:02it's not like Justin says, OK, we're going to do Pink Floyd.
- 23:05And then he spends a month just listening to Pink Floyd at the
- 23:10same time. He's, he's, he's listening to
- 23:13Lizzo and he's listening to the Foo Fighters and he's listening
- 23:17to, you know, Mother's Little Helper, some other stupid little
- 23:23indie band that nobody's ever heard of but the panel.
- 23:26And, and so, yeah, I, I could see where it would be miserable
- 23:31because you're, this is, this is not a band where you listen to
- 23:36three cuts of an album and then move on and you'll get back to
- 23:39the album later. You know, I'm, I'm sure as a
- 23:44matter of fact, I know for a fact Chad and I have talked a
- 23:46couple times and like, oh, Chad, what are you going to do?
- 23:50Well, you know, I'm going to I'm going to sit in the garage and
- 23:52I'm going to I'm going to smoke a cigar and.
- 23:55And I'm going to listen to Floyd.
- 23:57Yeah. And.
- 23:58And that's the way you've got to do it.
- 24:01And that's part of the reason, you know, you've known me for
- 24:05years when I say, you know, my favorite band was, I mean, my
- 24:09favorite album was always Depeche Mode Violator.
- 24:13But it was once I got older, where I can sit, you know, I
- 24:20wasn't the type to run around as much and I can sit down and.
- 24:26And really listen to animals or metal or, or dark side of the
- 24:33moon. That's really when I got to
- 24:35really appreciate Floyd and, and, and that's what elevated
- 24:39dark side up to to, you know, to the point that they're at and
- 24:44in, in, in my eyes. And it's not just my eyes.
- 24:47I mean, dark side of the moon. Everybody here in this panel
- 24:51knows, you know, I spent I believe over 2000 weeks on, on
- 24:57the, on the Billboard Hot 200 album charts.
- 25:01They had a run of, of over 900 weeks in a row.
- 25:07Now, mind you, that's decades in, in the top 200, you know,
- 25:14going up and down the chart, up and down and selling albums
- 25:18because that's how you stay. That's how you stay there is you
- 25:20got to keep selling. You got to keep pushing units,
- 25:23albums, cassettes, 8 tracks, CDs, streaming, however it is.
- 25:30I mean, that's, that's amazing. I I think you just hit on it
- 25:34like, you know, I, I kind of alluded to this, but this band
- 25:37needs space like you can't, you can't cram for Pink Floyd.
- 25:42And even with a month I crammed and you know, it feels like I'm
- 25:47going to fail the test, you know, last minute.
- 25:49But you know, we do what we can. And I, I do think it is worth
- 25:54noting. I, I already mentioned this, but
- 25:55I, I want to repeat it because I, I want it fresh on
- 25:57everybody's head. Number one, I did enjoy the band
- 26:00as much as I could in this environment.
- 26:04And two, like the songs that I already knew, like I love now,
- 26:07like they were just songs before this.
- 26:10So like, you know, maybe maybe it was a little bit of
- 26:14familiarity, but it was also just like finally opening the
- 26:19door to those songs. You know, us doing this episode
- 26:22finally opened the door to those songs.
- 26:24So like, I don't know. But, you know, maybe sometime in
- 26:27my life I'll have the space to just kind of buy a couple Floyd
- 26:30records and just listen to them. It just wasn't in this month
- 26:34that we had for this. Now, Fredo, you know, we've all
- 26:40kind of alluded to like there's there's no bad songs here.
- 26:43And you know, with what I just walked through, it does still
- 26:46feel like there's there's a couple out there that should be
- 26:48gimmies, should be gimmies. There's five of us.
- 26:51So who knows? What do you think based on
- 26:53everything that's been said so far for the final say, how many
- 26:56do you think we get through? I think it's going to be
- 26:58interesting because it really, Chris brought up a good point
- 27:04and I don't know if we ever agreed on it or not.
- 27:07So I think it's going to be interesting when we, when we
- 27:09talk about like another Brick in the Wall, there's three parts to
- 27:13it. Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 2
- 27:16is the one everybody knows. So did did we all as a
- 27:22collective pick Part 1 and two and three and counted it as one
- 27:28song, or did we count it as three separate songs, which
- 27:35becomes significant to the vote, right.
- 27:40So, so that kind of now I, I count and, and there's several
- 27:43songs like that and I put them all together as one.
- 27:48And Chris, it sounds like he did the same.
- 27:50I don't know what Peter and Chad did or what you did, but that I
- 27:54think really effects my count. I'm going to go even.
- 28:02Even with that being said, I'm still going to go with 7.
- 28:05Oh, I like it. Yeah, that's a, that's a good
- 28:07swing for a five person panel. I like that.
- 28:10Well thought out too. Fredo's swinging high.
- 28:13Peter, are you feeling as confident?
- 28:18I'm going big. I'm going 10.
- 28:21Wow, beautiful. As noted, I think we've
- 28:26mentioned this, if we do get the 10, since there won't be a final
- 28:29say, what did we agree on this? Like I know if it's past 10, if
- 28:35you pick past 10 and nail it, you get to make the cut, the
- 28:39final cut. Does it mean if we nail 10, does
- 28:44that mean Peter gets to pick the number one?
- 28:47I mean. No, I, I, I thought, I thought
- 28:52the way we discussed it in past is that if it's ten, it's 10.
- 28:56That's it. 10 is perfect. Right, so.
- 28:59There is no final cut, no, but nobody gets anything above
- 29:02anybody else because we've all agreed.
- 29:06Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I like to swing Peter though.
- 29:09I, you know, any way you look at it.
- 29:11I I say Peter, go 9 or 11. It's like spades.
- 29:15Nobody goes 10. And I'll go 9.
- 29:19OK, that way, that way if you if you if we hit 10, we hit 10,
- 29:26right. All right, Chris, everybody's
- 29:29swinging high here. I don't think anybody picked 8,
- 29:33so I'm going to go with. That All right, Everybody's on
- 29:36the high train. I like this, Chad.
- 29:39What do you think? First time here.
- 29:43So I'm actually going to go against all of that and I'm
- 29:46going to say 6 because I think that the the selection is so
- 29:51good, but there's going to be a lot of disagreement this
- 29:54particularly, and I'm going to going to throw this out there
- 29:56now, particularly with Dark side in the Wall, I think there's
- 29:59just way too much content in there to have agreement.
- 30:02I think there's going to be some equal arguments.
- 30:04So 6 is my. Number.
- 30:06Did you say Dark Side of the Wall?
- 30:09No, I think also dark side in the wall.
- 30:13Fredo, I don't know where you live, but I, I, I don't have a
- 30:16dark side of the wall. That's that's their new record.
- 30:19Didn't you know? Wish.
- 30:21You were animals. Yes, all right.
- 30:24So well, now it begs the question because my initial
- 30:27thought on all of this was 5. Just kind of to Chad's point is
- 30:31it feels like there's arguments to be had here and because
- 30:36there's five of it's, it's hard to get 5 people on board, you
- 30:39know, for from jump, if we do like 7-8 or nine, I think that
- 30:44might be a five person panel record.
- 30:46Don't hold me to that, but I don't recall any five person
- 30:50panel ever doing better than four.
- 30:54It's possible, depends on the band.
- 30:55Oh no, I take that back because the B50 twos I think was 7.
- 30:58So, but that's the B50 twos. Again, my inclination's 5.
- 31:07But I mean, if we actually do five, that means I have to pick
- 31:10a Pink Floyd song to to, you know, for a final say.
- 31:14What did I tell you, Chad? I'll take 5 reluctantly.
- 31:20It's there. It's what I thought initially.
- 31:23It feels like there's five that we're we're all probably going
- 31:27to agree on. I think it's it's the rest.
- 31:30I don't know, man. Maybe there's always one or two
- 31:32surprises. So we'll see.
- 31:34We're going to take a quick pause and when we come back, oh
- 31:36beautiful, 30 minutes. When we come back, we're going
- 31:38to play the game Jack. It's deprogrammed.
- 31:47And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
- 31:50The five of us have come through a what could be considered
- 31:54considered the essential run of Pink Floyd to pluck out
- 31:58essential songs, 20 of them that are now going to mash together
- 32:01in an attempt to create a top ten circuit for you.
- 32:03In case you are like me and never actually did the dive on
- 32:08Pink Floyd, now I my my inclination here is to go to a
- 32:14song that I knew and came to love.
- 32:20Now you know. So I think I'm going to lean
- 32:23that way with my my start. How about breathe?
- 32:34No. No, no.
- 32:40No. Wow.
- 32:43Wow. Wow.
- 32:47All right, Wow. Starting off fantastic, aren't
- 32:55we? All right.
- 32:56With a with a great song too. Like I didn't find one of y'all
- 33:01on that. That was one that came up
- 33:02several times on on when I asked the the Internet what is
- 33:07essential Pink Floyd. So I I thought I was going to
- 33:09find one of you, but in the beginning.
- 33:11Time to be cut. Yeah.
- 33:13Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what and and you know what?
- 33:16This is why you might be the one to choose a a song.
- 33:20Yeah, because of the fact that things had to be cut.
- 33:22Yeah, I mean, I I have an early front runner if I do happen to
- 33:27win, so at least there's that. All right, Breathe is in the
- 33:34bin, Fredda, where you want to start.
- 33:36Oh, come on there. There's a couple songs that I
- 33:40think would be obvious, but come in here, dear boy, have a cigar.
- 33:45You going to go for I had to, I mean, I'm a big cigar smoker and
- 33:49and I I just love the entire vibe of that song.
- 33:54It's it's such a it's such a nod to to The Dirty side of the
- 34:01record business, you know, and so I love it.
- 34:05So that's that's my call. Wish you were here.
- 34:07I mean, excuse me, have a cigar. Pause the album.
- 34:10Wish you were here. I got it.
- 34:14I've got it. I do not.
- 34:18I do all. Right, so.
- 34:20Who said they don't? That was Chris, Chris.
- 34:22You son of a bitch, hey. You know what do you want?
- 34:26What the fuck? How the hell did you not have
- 34:28that one? Because neither Rodger or David
- 34:32sang it. I mean, sometimes you have, you
- 34:36got to have, you know, reasons sometimes so.
- 34:41I should be more specific. Nobody in Pink Floyd sang that
- 34:44song that was and and they they both tried and they didn't get
- 34:48what they wanted out of it. And I can't remember some other
- 34:50guy, but he came in and nailed it.
- 34:53That's the voice you hear. Roy Harper.
- 34:57All right. Thank you.
- 34:58Well, we, we get a four. So I mean, again, A4 is as good
- 35:03as A5 on a five person panel. And you know, I, I'm, I'm hoping
- 35:08that we just have a good, good run coming up here.
- 35:11Let's find out, Peter. I'm going with a song that's
- 35:16sung by David and Richard, and the lyrics just hit me like like
- 35:24a ton of bricks. And then one day you find 10
- 35:28years have got behind you. No one told you when to run.
- 35:31You missed the starting gun. It's time.
- 35:35Yeah, I got it. Yep.
- 35:38Yes. Nope.
- 35:42All right. Who's the who's the holdout on
- 35:45that one? That was Chad.
- 35:49All right, so time gets a four you.
- 35:52Son of a bitch, dad. There's your first one.
- 35:55First one of many. I told you there's too much.
- 36:00It's, it's all too good. It all speaks to us differently.
- 36:03Yep. Right.
- 36:05All right, Chris. Everybody's doing Dark Side of
- 36:12the Moon here, so I'm not. I'm going to do something a
- 36:15little earlier from the metal album.
- 36:17My favorite on that album is, well, Not Not the Long 1,
- 36:23Fearless. I got it.
- 36:24Yeah. Oh.
- 36:30No good song though. No I I agree it's a good song
- 36:35though. When they put me in the box,
- 36:38that's the song they're playing nice.
- 36:42We'll take that too, though, the way.
- 36:44You know what? No, no, no, make it a three.
- 36:47I could have it. I just misspelled it.
- 36:51And it's funny because just kind of going with that song
- 36:57significant because of the fact that it me that was the first
- 37:02time you start to hear that classic Pink Floyd sound.
- 37:07Yeah, I hear that. You know, Chris or Chad or Pete,
- 37:11you guys do agree with that as as you're listening to that
- 37:14album, that's where you start to hear what would eventually
- 37:19become a classic, a classic Pink Floyd side.
- 37:23You really get to hear Gilmore playing where it sounds like
- 37:28Gilmore playing. I think that and obscured by
- 37:33clouds is where their sound really solidifies.
- 37:39Yeah, I would agree and I would even there's another song on
- 37:41there, A pillow of Winds, not a highly popular song, but between
- 37:46fearlessness and a pillow of Winds, I think both are are I
- 37:50think lyrically that's where you see the change for them.
- 37:53That's what the first change in my opinion.
- 37:55Now granted I have experience with their previous music so it
- 37:58may not sound like it's applicable this argument because
- 38:00metals the first album, but that's the first time I see a
- 38:04musical change lyrically in what they do, so I would agree there
- 38:07was has great lyrics. All right, so fearless grabs a
- 38:11three again. That's all well and good in a
- 38:15five person panel. So Chad, your first time, you
- 38:20ready to have your heart broken? I'm going to swing.
- 38:24I'm going to swing right out of the gate and and I hate to to go
- 38:27with the easy one of wish you were here.
- 38:29So that's why that's what I'm going to say.
- 38:30Wish you were here. Yeah, I got it.
- 38:33Yep. Of course.
- 38:36No. No.
- 38:37Who said no? That was Chris.
- 38:40You son of what the fuck is wrong with you?
- 38:48I got to say I'm disappointed in this show now.
- 38:50I thought this was. I know I don't have.
- 38:53We don't, we don't have the time for me to explain what's wrong
- 38:57with me. Oh.
- 38:58My God, did you not like that album?
- 39:02Because you had to hold out on on on on the 2 on the two fours
- 39:06from that album. There are well, look, there are
- 39:09only two songs left. Yeah.
- 39:14So you, you want to roll the dice, man.
- 39:15I mean, you know. I mean, it's it grabs A4.
- 39:21So I mean, unless, again, unless we go on a really, really hot
- 39:25streak, it's as good as in unless, you know, somebody
- 39:28really wants to put their foot down South.
- 39:31We'll see where we go. I'm going to go here just
- 39:35because Chad already brought this song up.
- 39:36I might as well. I might as well officially put
- 39:38it into the the gameplay. I was going to let it ride till
- 39:41the end. A pillow wins.
- 39:44No. No.
- 39:47No. I do like it.
- 39:50I'm sorry but it's not my top 10 so it's a no.
- 39:53Two big whiffs from from your man's I I do want to say like I
- 39:58wanted to just add that I grabbed those for the very
- 40:01reason you guys are talking about like it it's not
- 40:04necessarily that they do the thing, but like I automatic I
- 40:08already knew what I was. I already knew what Floyd was
- 40:12going to be. You know what I mean?
- 40:13Like I'm glad we started here because I already knew.
- 40:17You know, there's a song before Fearless I believe, but like.
- 40:22Those two songs as like, OK, I these these are relative to
- 40:26songs that I know are coming down the line.
- 40:28So I, I think having those here was important for me.
- 40:32So OK, your boy gets two in the bin and Fredo.
- 40:38So here's what we start to talk about Multiple songs and and and
- 40:46and this combination. They're not like some of the
- 40:50other ones. Another brick in the wall part
- 40:521-2 and three Shine on your crazy diamond Part 1 to 117.
- 40:58Whatever it is in this, these are just songs that go together
- 41:04kind of like when you think of Queen and you hear We Will Rock
- 41:09you automatically. The follow up is is we are the
- 41:13Champions. Well, Pink Floyd, this is the
- 41:17way I'm putting them together. So how we add them up, I don't
- 41:21know. But this I, I couldn't do 1
- 41:23without the other. And that's all for Dark Side of
- 41:26the Moon. It's it's the last two songs,
- 41:28it's Brain damage and Eclipse it go together.
- 41:32I can't hear them separately so I had to put them together.
- 41:36All right, we'll have to break this apart in a second, but I,
- 41:41I, I have Eclipse. Does anybody?
- 41:48Can anybody? I agree with.
- 41:51Fredo and that you have to put them together because they're
- 41:54they are that way. But I'm sorry Fredo, I I didn't
- 41:57put it on my list. Holy shit, did you put anything
- 42:00on your list? You had 20 songs, I mean.
- 42:04Yeah, yeah. Wow.
- 42:08I have them together and I have them on my list.
- 42:10All right, so. So I have Brain damage but not
- 42:14Eclipse, but I if we're going to, I don't disagree with
- 42:17Fredo's logic, especially if we're doing that with Dart with
- 42:21Shine On and and some of the others.
- 42:24However, they are distinct songs.
- 42:26But I'm OK with including together because I do think from
- 42:29a listening experience they go together and again, brain damage
- 42:32is on my list, but I I would go with combining them.
- 42:36I'm OK with that all. Right.
- 42:38So, I mean, we didn't. Right, I'm going to make you
- 42:40feel a little bit better about this.
- 42:43A lot of Pink Floyd stories that I have center around my oldest
- 42:46boy and. OK.
- 42:50When he was first born and was having trouble going to sleep, I
- 42:55could not think of anything to sing as a lullaby other than
- 43:00brain damage because that was the only thing that was in my
- 43:04head at the time. Does that make sense?
- 43:05No, but. Anyway, no, it does.
- 43:08It does. I could hear you.
- 43:10I you know what? I can hear you with that laugh
- 43:13as as as your kids like crying and just like, want to throw the
- 43:19kid out the window. Yeah, no, I get it.
- 43:21It works I it. What can I tell you?
- 43:25So technically that works out as a four.
- 43:29We'll cross that bridge as we get there.
- 43:31Because I had Eclipse, not brain damage.
- 43:35Chad had brain damage, not Eclipse.
- 43:37Both Peter and Fredo had them together as one.
- 43:40So, you know, depending on how the rest of this goes, we'll
- 43:44we'll cross that bridge when we get there, but tentative let's.
- 43:47Call it 3 1/2. Yeah, tentatively, Tentatively.
- 43:51That's a four. All right, Peter.
- 43:59I'm really going to try to go for a 5 with this one.
- 44:02This has got one of the best guitar solos ever.
- 44:07It's comfortably numb. Yeah, I got it.
- 44:10Yep. Yes.
- 44:13Absolutely. Hey, we got one.
- 44:16Hey, nice, good, good job my. Confidence is restored in the
- 44:21group. We got there, we got one, we got
- 44:27one. Let me find it here.
- 44:31I mean, again, like not to, you know, this was a song I knew
- 44:36going in, but something about the the contact again, the door
- 44:42was finally opened to the song to hear it.
- 44:47Even though I couldn't I couldn't take in the band the
- 44:49way I wanted to. I could take in some songs and
- 44:53this is one of them because I just needed the door opened and
- 44:57the door opening just needed to be us doing this episode.
- 45:01I this song is kind of always been on my radar, but like this
- 45:06just kind of happened to be the thing that was like, OK, finally
- 45:10just do the damn thing, man. You know, stop fucking around,
- 45:13listen to the song. And so I did, and now I.
- 45:16Story about that song. They reunited for Live 8 in like
- 45:222004, 2005 or something like that and they played yeah and
- 45:27they played like 4 songs and they ended with Comfortably
- 45:30Numb. And during the guitar solo for
- 45:33Comfortably Numb, MTV cut them off and went to credits and my
- 45:39friend and I were like. What the fuck?
- 45:42Like. Why you do not cut off Pink
- 45:45Floyd reuniting after like 20 something fucking years playing
- 45:50comfortably numb. It's MTV that that should tell
- 45:54you everything you know in 2005, they're more concerned with.
- 45:58Real World 27. Flavor of love in real world and
- 46:01and road rules they don't give a shit about.
- 46:05You know what started as music? Television by by 2005 had
- 46:10nothing to do with music. Television.
- 46:13You know, I don't even know why they still give out video
- 46:15awards. Yeah, really.
- 46:17I do want to point out that Wish you were Here.
- 46:22Got second most Comfortably Numb got the most answers when I
- 46:27asked what people consider essential Pink Floyd.
- 46:29So we got one right, And we we got it on the board.
- 46:34Comfortably Numb is in all right, Chris.
- 46:40I'm going to continue with my oldest boy stories.
- 46:45Just before Kim and I got married in 1994, we went to
- 46:50Washington, DC and we saw Pink Floyd at RFK Stadium for the
- 46:54Division Bell concert. Nice.
- 46:56And I I, I never understood when I watched folks watching Michael
- 47:00Jackson, why they were bawling uncontrollably.
- 47:03And, and then all of a sudden I understood it because I was
- 47:07sitting there with tears rolling down my face.
- 47:11But this song, which has got a lot of bass in it, was loud
- 47:16enough and rumbly enough that my oldest boy started kicking.
- 47:21And that that's when he started kicking during the concert,
- 47:24during this particular song, and after he was born.
- 47:27I can tell you he knew the song because you could watch him perk
- 47:31up. He knew it.
- 47:32Wow. And that song is one of these
- 47:35days. You know, you hear one of these
- 47:41great stories and in the. Air left the room.
- 47:47Yeah, right. I got you.
- 47:48I, I, I got you. All right.
- 47:51I think Peter said you had it too as well, right?
- 47:54Yeah. OK.
- 47:57Chad's a no. I'm, I'm sorry.
- 48:00That's a fantastic story. But yeah, I apologize.
- 48:02That's a no for me. Great song too.
- 48:05Yes it is. I like it a lot I do.
- 48:07I don't have it either. I will say this that you know,
- 48:10and this might come in to add some weight to it.
- 48:13When we come back around to the discussion round, as I always
- 48:16do, I I try to listen to some of the playlist like there was no
- 48:19way I was getting through this playlist before we went on air.
- 48:25But this song, I immediately wanted to go find room on my
- 48:30list. And honestly, if I didn't have
- 48:33such a miserable experience like getting to the list that I had,
- 48:37I probably would have made space for it because I was like, oh,
- 48:40Frick, I think I've got I whiffed on this one.
- 48:43So, and I mean, you think about the two that I've put out there
- 48:46now that have both gone in the bin, it seems like I had room
- 48:51for it. So what are you going to do?
- 48:53What are you going to do? All right, so one of these days
- 48:56gets a three, which is still very much alive at this point.
- 49:00Yeah, you know, I had my Casey case a moment.
- 49:01And which one of you fuckers ruined it?
- 49:03Well. Not me.
- 49:05Unlike you, I I've supported you.
- 49:08I understand. You know what?
- 49:09I love you, Freda. Both Chad and I unfortunately
- 49:12ruined your beautiful, beautiful story.
- 49:14Good for us. All right, Chad, which song did
- 49:18you have instead of One of These Days?
- 49:21Why are we dropping Dimes here? If you can't remember, just let
- 49:23him. Let him struggle.
- 49:24Fair enough. Where do you want to go, Chad?
- 49:32I so I'm going to, I'm going to go with money, Dark side of the
- 49:36moon. Yeah, I got it.
- 49:38Yeah. No all.
- 49:41Right. Who said no?
- 49:43That was Rolly because I think it's the weakest song on the
- 49:45album. I mean, at least he had a reason
- 49:48like you got to give him that. But it's a four, which as we are
- 49:55learning, is very much just about guaranteed.
- 50:00You know, we'll we'll again, we'll cross that bridge when we
- 50:02get there. But at this point, the way it's
- 50:06going, it feels like those fours are going to going to have to be
- 50:09in. Has there ever been a show where
- 50:11you've gotten just one? I'm sure I know I've gotten at
- 50:17one WASP got 0 which was that was something.
- 50:22Yeah, how the fuck did you? Yeah, I mean, come on.
- 50:26Yeah, fuck. Like a beast, you know, Love
- 50:29Machine. And it's 2 at least.
- 50:32Yeah, who knew? Lying to Texas?
- 50:34Who knew? I'm I'm sure we've had ones, but
- 50:36I'd I'd really have to dig back to to find them.
- 50:39And that's that's something for like an after the fact or some
- 50:44other time when I'm not swimming in 10 bands.
- 50:49All right, man. Most of the ones that have kind
- 50:52of been mentioned when I asked the Internet have been
- 50:58mentioned. How about I go here?
- 51:00How about Hey you? Yep, yes, the wall.
- 51:07Yeah. Yes.
- 51:09Hey. There you go.
- 51:12All right, I went from the bin to in.
- 51:17Who knew? I like it.
- 51:19I like it. And just like that, we have two.
- 51:22I mean, you know, that's not like we're burning them up here,
- 51:25but hold on, I guess. There's still a lot, still a lot
- 51:28of popular songs out there. Totally.
- 51:31And I mean, really, I think what are what are we on?
- 51:35This is like our third go round, I think.
- 51:38Yeah. So I mean, there's a lot to
- 51:41still be played here. Let me cue this up real quick
- 51:44for a second. Anybody got anything they wanted
- 51:47to say about Hey you before we move on?
- 51:50Or is this just a you? You just picked it because it's
- 51:53a good song? Sometimes that's the answer.
- 51:56It's a good contrast between David's vocals and Roger's
- 51:59vocals, I think all. Right.
- 52:01Yeah, I picked it because I liked it.
- 52:04It's a good song. Well, that too.
- 52:07That too, yeah. All right.
- 52:10Hey you is in 2345 Fredo. So here's, here's my my Pink
- 52:20Floyd son moment. My son comes up to me and I and
- 52:29I, I bought my son, the little Crosby record player, my
- 52:32youngest son. And I say, and he was excited
- 52:38and I say I'm a go pick, go pick, you know, whatever.
- 52:43And my son at this point is about 13 and I'm expecting him
- 52:48to pull out. I don't know, Kanye or Ed
- 52:53Sheeran in or some shit like that.
- 52:55Something that's really going to disgust me.
- 52:56But all right, whatever. Your 13 year old kid.
- 52:59And he comes back with Dark Side of the Moon.
- 53:02Hey. And it was all him on his own.
- 53:06I, I just said go, go pick your song.
- 53:08And he picked it up and he said, dad, this one.
- 53:11And I went, holy shit. And so I'm listening to it with
- 53:16them. And I saw Roger Waters on the US
- 53:19and Them tour. I don't know, about six years
- 53:23ago, five years ago, whatever the hell it was.
- 53:26And I remember hearing the song live and it brought me to tears.
- 53:37And there, there, there's, there's how do I describe it?
- 53:44It's probably one of the most emotion filled songs ever.
- 53:48And there's no speaking. None of the bands is singing.
- 53:54It starts with a, a guy saying some words really, really,
- 53:58really low and then a woman just kind of going in and it, it,
- 54:09it's if you've never seen it done live, it's amazing If
- 54:14you've never seen it done on a, on a Floyd laser show.
- 54:19And Floyd was lasers. Floyd was the epitome of a laser
- 54:25show in in the 80s. But this song is essential for
- 54:29that and it's great gig in the sky.
- 54:32Yeah, I got it. Yes, I got it.
- 54:36I got it. I do not.
- 54:39Sorry, Fredo. You hurt me.
- 54:43You hurt me. You cut me to the quick there,
- 54:45Chad. You wound me.
- 54:51What can I ask you, Chad? Why didn't you have it?
- 54:53Is it because it had no vocals or that's?
- 54:58Part of the reason I certainly like it.
- 55:01I mean I like the whole album to be honest, but I also not only
- 55:05did not have enough vocal or had vocals, but not only that, but I
- 55:09also just thought there were better choices from dark side
- 55:12and and again, I was going with not what I like.
- 55:15So I guess it's the time to say it.
- 55:16I didn't pick what I liked. I tried to pick for a top ten
- 55:20what I thought the the the the new listener would appreciate
- 55:25and like what would draw them in fair.
- 55:28Enough. Hold on, I missed something
- 55:31here. I think I just forgot the mark
- 55:36off. Hey, you as a 5.
- 55:41Yes, I did. I see now I see what I've done.
- 55:44It is a three. Hey you, Zen.
- 55:46Yes, it's in boom boom boom. All right at this point.
- 55:55I mean, like I'm the only one who's bend, you know, two of my
- 55:59songs have bend. I mean, everything else has been
- 56:02threes and fours and then the two that are in.
- 56:04So like we're not doing bad. We're just not.
- 56:07I mean, it's expected because it's a five person panel.
- 56:10So I'll. Tell you right now, the threes
- 56:12are out. Yeah, very likely.
- 56:14You know, except for. It's counting right now.
- 56:18Except for Eclipse brain damage, because they're that's
- 56:21technically. Right, right.
- 56:22OK, Yeah. So those those are still because
- 56:24we'll cross that bridge when we get there, right.
- 56:29All right, So great gig in the sky.
- 56:31Great story. By the way, Fredo, you know that
- 56:34got drowned out by Chad wounding you.
- 56:36Well, that's what. He does.
- 56:39He does the same thing at the shop.
- 56:42You know Peter. I'm going to touch on an album
- 56:46that we haven't touched on yet. I'm going to go with Dogs from
- 56:52Animals. I do not.
- 56:56Have no and help you. Yes.
- 57:01No, I mean a 2 is better than a bin, you know, I can say that
- 57:08much, but it is just about as good as bend.
- 57:10Unless, again, we go on a hot streak here, which it feels like
- 57:13we don't have a hot streak in US.
- 57:18I tried. Yeah.
- 57:20I mean, that's all you can really do at this point, Chris.
- 57:26I'm going to stay with Peter and I'm going to say pigs.
- 57:29Three different ones. Yeah.
- 57:35You got a question on that one? Are we counting pigs three
- 57:39different ones as a different song from Pigs on the Wing?
- 57:43Yeah, I think so. OK, then I don't have it.
- 57:48I do not either. OK, Chris and Peter together on
- 57:52the twos again. Not it's better than getting
- 57:55binned. Are Chris and I the only one who
- 57:58likes animals? I was going to say I hate, I
- 58:01hate to be that guy, but I just really did not like Animals and
- 58:05I'm going to as much as a Floyd fan as I am.
- 58:07That is just one album. I just couldn't get behind too
- 58:09much. I'm sorry.
- 58:11I fucking love animals. It's it's if it weren't for Dark
- 58:17Side of the Moon, Animals will probably be my favorite album
- 58:20because I think it's, it's harder.
- 58:23It if it makes sense. I think that was their attempt
- 58:25at trying to, well, I think somebody said it was their
- 58:27answer to punk rock. It came out in 77, so that
- 58:29sounds logical. But it's, it's a harder album
- 58:33than what they used to do or what they were used to doing.
- 58:36And and I like it. I feel like one of Claypool's
- 58:39project covered animals. I can't.
- 58:41Remember, if it was Primus or it's the one, it's it's it's, I
- 58:45think it's Frog Brigade. It's the one where he he's
- 58:47playing with Sean Lennon because I saw him do it last last year.
- 58:52What, a year before? That's how I was put on to that
- 58:55record and I just I, you know, what are you going to do?
- 58:59All right. And it's.
- 59:00A fair. It's a fairpoint with Dark side,
- 59:02because I don't think you could follow up Dark side.
- 59:03So maybe in my mind that's what I'm naturally trying to do.
- 59:06I'm comparing the two, which might not be fair, but but
- 59:09because of it, I I just can't. I can't get on board with that
- 59:11particular album. Yeah, man.
- 59:13Everybody's got their reasons, Chad.
- 59:16You're up. So I've got a couple that I
- 59:21think would be good, but I'm going to, I'm going to go down
- 59:25the list a little bit. I'm going to throw this one out
- 59:27because it is it is in my top 10.
- 59:28So I'm going to say welcome to the machine.
- 59:33No. Yes.
- 59:35Yeah, All right, so No 3 practically dead, but we can
- 59:43cross that bridge when I get there.
- 59:46As Fredo said, the math kind of bears out that the threes are
- 59:49out, but we'll see. We'll see.
- 59:56All right, I guess I'll do the thing and then we can talk
- 59:59about, you know, the parts. I specifically have Brick 2
- 1:00:06because it was the one I knew. It actually it hit in just the
- 1:00:10right way. I'm very open to taking all
- 1:00:13three if that's what we need to do, but Brick 2 is the one I
- 1:00:16took. I have all three.
- 1:00:23I have it as all three, but you know Brick 2 is the gateway
- 1:00:25drug. Yeah, I agree with the latter.
- 1:00:28I mean, 22 is the one, but we also bend brain damage and
- 1:00:33eclipse together, so I feel like we have to do the same with
- 1:00:37another. Brick in the wall.
- 1:00:38Trump's. Yeah, Brick, rather.
- 1:00:41You don't have to do nothing. I don't have it.
- 1:00:44Oh, what? Yeah.
- 1:00:47I, I you know what? I so so what's your criteria
- 1:00:50then for for John? Is it what you like is are you
- 1:00:53trying to introduce a new listener or is that just a song
- 1:00:55you just don't like? What?
- 1:00:56What's the reason? No, no, I, I, I love it.
- 1:00:58I, I, and, and had I gotten it, I'd have put all three on
- 1:01:01because that's that to me is, is the only way to do it.
- 1:01:04But the problem with the Wall itself, it's a two album set.
- 1:01:09It's got 8726 songs and you know, and so in order for me to
- 1:01:21get good representation of 20 of the albums, you know, The Wall
- 1:01:28and Dark Side of the Moon had to get cut down significantly, and
- 1:01:34that was the one that I chose to cut out.
- 1:01:38I mean, you know, it makes sense in one.
- 1:01:41Other thing, I'm sorry. No, go ahead.
- 1:01:44Well, as one other thing is, yeah, I've really soured on the
- 1:01:47wall. Well, the studio version of the
- 1:01:50wall, I've really soured on it over the years.
- 1:01:52I much prefer if I'm going to listen to it, I much prefer
- 1:01:56anything that they did live like back Oh God, 20 some odd years
- 1:02:01ago they released Is there anybody out there which is a
- 1:02:04live performance from Earls Court as and it's it's the only
- 1:02:08time that you hear all four members of Pink Floyd on the
- 1:02:11same album doing the same thing at the same time.
- 1:02:13So it's, it's an original wall performance and, and that I
- 1:02:18think is much better than anything else you've heard is a
- 1:02:23live performance of the wall over the years.
- 1:02:25I I would much rather do that. I think to to that point though,
- 1:02:28Chris, this is something we've kind of danced around.
- 1:02:30And this is not to say that listening to the records
- 1:02:33wouldn't be good, but this everything about this band that
- 1:02:37I was able to glean in, you know, the the month of, you
- 1:02:41know, kind of putting this to this together is this would be 1
- 1:02:46hell of a show. Like this is a band I would have
- 1:02:50loved to have seen, like the, you know, the original iteration
- 1:02:55or you know what we covered. I should say just watch.
- 1:03:00Pulse, you know, on YouTube, I mean that that that hits your,
- 1:03:03that hits the nail on the head of exactly what you're saying.
- 1:03:05I mean. Like.
- 1:03:06The light show and performance. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:03:09It's amazing though. But it's it's amazing.
- 1:03:12It's got oh, 100%. It's amazing.
- 1:03:14Yeah. And I've seen Rodger Waters
- 1:03:16twice and and you know, he'll throw in a couple pros and cons
- 1:03:21of hitchhiking and stuff like that.
- 1:03:23But I'm, but he mostly plays classic Floyd and it's
- 1:03:30incredible. It is incredible.
- 1:03:34All right, Brick 2 with me gets a four.
- 1:03:37We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
- 1:03:39Looks like we're going to as, as it stands, it looks like it's
- 1:03:43going to get in, you know, and you know, again, we'll open to
- 1:03:48taking all three if if that's what's necessary and taking it
- 1:03:50as one. So Fredo.
- 1:03:59So many that I have here that are not going to make it.
- 1:04:06So let's just knock out one that that's actually kind of really,
- 1:04:15excuse me, been on a lot of people's mind lately because of
- 1:04:19the release of Pink Floyd Live in Pompeii, an incredible movie
- 1:04:28which which showcases the band having played in Pompeii in in
- 1:04:35the Coliseum over there. And it's just them.
- 1:04:41It's literally that there's nobody in there.
- 1:04:43It was the exception of a couple kids who snuck in there, but
- 1:04:47there's nobody in there but the crew and the band.
- 1:04:51And this song is amazing. And, and you alluded to it when
- 1:04:57you said, you know, the first song with a 28 minute, you know,
- 1:05:01whatever. But there but there's also a
- 1:05:05single edit of it and the single edits 10 minutes for 12 minutes.
- 1:05:10But it is such a great Oh my God, to to hear Gilmore and and
- 1:05:18Richard Wright singing this song together.
- 1:05:23It's Echoes. And Gilmore said once Richard
- 1:05:26Wright passed away, he would never do that song again live
- 1:05:31because they they belong together singing that song.
- 1:05:34So Echoes is my call off the metal album.
- 1:05:38I unfortunately do not, and I think you probably know why.
- 1:05:42Yeah. Yes, and it is my favorite song
- 1:05:45they ever did. I've got it.
- 1:05:50I I'm a no and I will say that I absolutely love it, but I don't
- 1:05:56think it's going to. I don't think it belongs in the
- 1:05:58top 10. I you to that fair enough.
- 1:06:01To that point, like I like, I don't disagree, but I I think
- 1:06:08most people would probably be like like in part, you want to
- 1:06:13introduce somebody to that 25 minute song because it is what
- 1:06:17they do Like they don't always hit that length, but but really
- 1:06:21like some of these albums are technically one song.
- 1:06:25And so technically, yes, you know, giving them this 125
- 1:06:30minute long song goes, hey, by the way, like start here and
- 1:06:34build from that. But also I think most people
- 1:06:37would be like me and be like, well, shit, 25 minutes.
- 1:06:40I'm not going to listen to that. Like, how am I supposed to make
- 1:06:43time for that? I, I will say Echo's got great
- 1:06:47consideration for me considering it was a 25 minute long song,
- 1:06:50but ultimately that's what took it off my list.
- 1:06:53And I also want to note that most people agree with you guys
- 1:06:56like it. It should be somewhere in this
- 1:06:58conversation. So I got that answer several
- 1:07:01times. You you said something and it's
- 1:07:05funny because if you look at some of the songs that we've
- 1:07:07talked about and that we're going to talk about another
- 1:07:09brick in the wall, you know, things like that, where it's
- 1:07:15pieced together is that, let me ask you this, does that make a
- 1:07:20difference? And how you look at that if they
- 1:07:23had taken, if they're taking echoes and pieced it, because
- 1:07:28essentially it's it's three parts.
- 1:07:30It's it's the first part and then that middle fucking
- 1:07:35Odyssey. Let's do hit acid and then the
- 1:07:39second part. You know, those two bookend that
- 1:07:42middle part. So it could have it could have
- 1:07:43easily been an Echoes part 1-2 and three.
- 1:07:46I think I probably would have ultimately ended up taking one
- 1:07:49of those parts if they were like 3 separate tracks to your point.
- 1:07:54But I think I mean, when we talked about Brick, I took Brick
- 1:07:592. I, I'm open to taking all three
- 1:08:02if that's what we feel as a group needs to be done for Brick
- 1:08:05to get in the list. But I, I selected Brick 2 and I
- 1:08:08didn't view it as all three of them together.
- 1:08:12So I, I think to answer your question, I probably would have
- 1:08:17selected something from it if they pieced it out like that.
- 1:08:21But I probably, and I would have been open to taking echoes as,
- 1:08:25you know, one. But I think that, yeah, no, I,
- 1:08:32you know, I don't know. I, it clearly affected me in
- 1:08:34some way. The just the, the length of it
- 1:08:39affected me enough to, to put me off from choosing it.
- 1:08:42So. And for what it's worth, for,
- 1:08:45you know, I, I will say too that it was, it was right on my cut.
- 1:08:51And I feel, I feel like there's so much more.
- 1:08:53I, I, this is actually a song that I'd like to talk about
- 1:08:56whether we make it or not, but I have a feeling that's going to
- 1:08:58come up later in discussion, but it's just not close enough for
- 1:09:01me. But I think it's fantastic.
- 1:09:02And I think there's a lot lot to this song that you could talk
- 1:09:05about as well. Yeah, all right, so Fredo gets
- 1:09:09echoed. Things real quick one I I Fred,
- 1:09:12I mentioned it them they had the movie and they released an album
- 1:09:15version of it that you can go get the movie and IMAX was
- 1:09:18fantastic. Was it?
- 1:09:20I didn't get a chance to see it. Oh yeah, I mean that it was
- 1:09:23right up here at, there's a movie theater, like literally
- 1:09:26right down the street from my house.
- 1:09:27I live near a mall and they they did the and it was just
- 1:09:32fantastic. If we had gone earlier stuff, I
- 1:09:36I would tell you one of the things on that album is a song
- 1:09:39called Careful with that axe Eugene, and that would have
- 1:09:40definitely been on my list. The second thing regarding
- 1:09:45Echoes, Nick Mason, who's kind of become the historian of the
- 1:09:50old stuff. He's got a band that he has
- 1:09:53called the Saucer full of Secrets and it's got and they
- 1:09:56just released their version, a live performance of Echoes that
- 1:10:00you really. Yeah.
- 1:10:02Just when then? Yeah, I'm going to.
- 1:10:04I'm going to pick that up for sure.
- 1:10:07I got a couple autographed Nick Mason stuff here and a Saucerful
- 1:10:12of Secrets poster so I'm looking forward to seeing them next time
- 1:10:17they come around. So echoes Lanza 3 Peter.
- 1:10:25I don't have a lot left. How about run like hell?
- 1:10:31I don't have. Yes.
- 1:10:35No. No.
- 1:10:39All right, it's a two. I will.
- 1:10:41That was definitely a late late late 1 for me.
- 1:10:45Justin, do we do the thing? What the?
- 1:10:49Oh, you need to pee? Yeah, and we'll see how cleverly
- 1:10:55I edit that. I wanted to add this before we
- 1:10:58move off from run Like hell. That one, I think may have been
- 1:11:01song 21. I gave it a lot of
- 1:11:03consideration. And again, like, if my, if my
- 1:11:10time was a little bit better with, you know, going going
- 1:11:15through this discography, I probably would have found a way
- 1:11:19to make space for that song because it came up a lot when it
- 1:11:24when I asked, which means, you know, obviously I should have
- 1:11:27given it some more consideration.
- 1:11:29But what are you going to do? It gets a 2 and we move on
- 1:11:35Chris. I want to touch on some of the
- 1:11:39songs that that in Pink Floyd that explained why Rodgers
- 1:11:43broken. So we're going to go, actually,
- 1:11:46I'm going to head to the final cut for a second.
- 1:11:47And I think this is probably one of the most important songs that
- 1:11:52originally got left out. And it's called When the Tigers
- 1:11:54Broke Free. Oh wow.
- 1:11:57And that song explains Roger pretty much completely.
- 1:12:03So that's why I put it in there, because I think it, I think in
- 1:12:06the whole thing of this run, that's the one song that
- 1:12:09explains where Pink Floyd went and why Roger did what he did.
- 1:12:15I wish I could save you, but I can't.
- 1:12:18Yeah, me too. I've got something.
- 1:12:22From I've got something from the final cut, but it's not that
- 1:12:25one. Can you save him, Chad?
- 1:12:30Yeah, I'm a no, although I really like the final cut.
- 1:12:33That's not one of my favourites. But but I think the final cut as
- 1:12:37a whole is not only kind of a, a sequence to the wall, which I
- 1:12:40know it is chronologically, but I think musically it's it's,
- 1:12:46it's a lot of it didn't. There's some of it was things
- 1:12:48that didn't make the wall #1 and #2 I would agree with you
- 1:12:51because it's so close to the wall, it reflects.
- 1:12:54It's very heavily affected by Rodger and his personality.
- 1:13:00I, I'll, I'll say this as well. I do have stuff from the final
- 1:13:03cut, but that one was other. The wall was just the sheer mass
- 1:13:08of it was, was the trouble. The final cut I had a lot of
- 1:13:14problem with because it, it felt like it's supposed to just be
- 1:13:17taken as a piece. And you know, maybe I got it
- 1:13:19wrong because I was just kind of skipping around a little bit,
- 1:13:23but like, that's what it felt like.
- 1:13:24It felt like it felt like you're not supposed to kind of piece
- 1:13:28mail it so. Like Chad said though, I mean,
- 1:13:34you know, a lot of stuff on the Final Cut was supposed to be on
- 1:13:39the Wall, but at that point the Wall would have been a 47 album
- 1:13:43freaking set. So so that's the first thing.
- 1:13:47The second thing is, you know, talk about a a a a aptly named
- 1:13:57album. Yeah.
- 1:13:59It's the last album with Roger Waters.
- 1:14:02But you know, you figured that actually by this time.
- 1:14:06Roger Waters. Roger fired Nick Mason.
- 1:14:13No, Richard Wright. You fired Richard Wright.
- 1:14:15Rick Wright, yeah. Yeah.
- 1:14:16I mean, yeah. Rick Wright, Richard, he had
- 1:14:20fired Rick White from the band and then they hired him as like
- 1:14:23a studio musician or a touring musician, and he didn't actually
- 1:14:28get back into the band till after Rodger left.
- 1:14:31So, you know, by the wall and then the Final Cut, Rodger kind
- 1:14:40of believed that he was Pink Floyd.
- 1:14:45And that's why when he left the band and the band decided, yeah,
- 1:14:48we're going to, you know, we're going to keep touring, he's
- 1:14:50like, no, you're not. You know, it's like Pink Floyd
- 1:14:53does not pick Floyd without me. He's like, ah, now.
- 1:14:55Yeah, we are. One of the things a lot of
- 1:14:58people don't realize is that that Roger, to your point, Fredo
- 1:15:01is Roger Waters had a very strong political and social
- 1:15:05conviction. And, you know, it was more
- 1:15:08obscure in some of his music, but the final cut, because it
- 1:15:12was the songs that didn't make the wall to me, they stand alone
- 1:15:15in that, in that representing that.
- 1:15:18And and it kind of goes back to the other gentleman.
- 1:15:19I apologize on which one of you said it, but it very heavily
- 1:15:23reflects Roger Waters political and social beliefs and and
- 1:15:27convictions. And that was actually at that
- 1:15:29time, from what I've read and what I recall from reading years
- 1:15:33ago, that's kind of what caused the the division between Roger
- 1:15:36Waters and Rick Wright during the wall, because again, Roger
- 1:15:40wanted to go more in this direction and Gilmore and Wright
- 1:15:43did not. And that's when it was was done.
- 1:15:45After the wall was done, Rick Wright was like, I'm done then,
- 1:15:48you know, Roger Flores basically claimed he fired him.
- 1:15:50But anyhow, that that's what I say, a lot of people don't
- 1:15:53realize that, but that's he had a very strong political
- 1:15:55conviction that he wanted to to express to his music.
- 1:15:58And it was actually tempered by the other band members before
- 1:16:02the final cut, you know? If you see, if you see them all
- 1:16:06Roger Waters in concert, that makes a lot of sense with the
- 1:16:11imagery that he shows during the, especially during this the,
- 1:16:15the, the Floyd songs, his, his leanings are his political
- 1:16:20leanings are right out there in the open.
- 1:16:23You know, the, the, and the imagery just goes right along
- 1:16:28with the songs. And if you're not a political
- 1:16:31person, it's easy to overlook it till you see the imagery going
- 1:16:36along with the songs. Even the movie The Wall has a
- 1:16:41lot of political symbology and I remember the first time I saw
- 1:16:44it, having just gotten into Pink Floyd, I was like, what is this
- 1:16:48Nazi stuff? This is crazy.
- 1:16:50But really The Wall is symbolic of the divide between the band
- 1:16:52and and their fans in the music industry and that there's more
- 1:16:55to it. But if you don't know that and
- 1:16:57you just see The Wall as a movie, it leans that way.
- 1:16:59Which is makes sense given Rogers kind of political
- 1:17:04motivation so to speak. Well, for me, when I saw when I
- 1:17:09saw that, I was just thinking about the fact that Roger Waters
- 1:17:14was really affected by his father's death.
- 1:17:18Yes, 100% his father, right. And his father fought during
- 1:17:21World War 2. So me when I saw that imagery,
- 1:17:27it was more of of nightmarish for for character Pink, you
- 1:17:35know, which is supposed to be, I guess, Roger Waters.
- 1:17:41I always thought pink was more like Sid Barrett.
- 1:17:47You know, and, and, and that makes sense.
- 1:17:52It's to me. I mean, it, it makes sense.
- 1:17:55It, it's just having found, having learned about Roger
- 1:18:01Waters and his background and his political leanings, I see it
- 1:18:06more now as, as Roger Waters. Yeah, I, I can 100% see it as as
- 1:18:16as Sid Barrett also. I mean like the whole Rockstar
- 1:18:21spiraling out of control thing I always thought was a like a nod
- 1:18:26to Sid. Makes sense all?
- 1:18:31Right. Chris, what do you think?
- 1:18:34I, I, I think, well, actually I, I don't, I've never met anybody
- 1:18:39that dropped acid and became a fascist.
- 1:18:41But I, I think it was just a kind of an amalgam of, of Sid
- 1:18:47and Rodger because Rodger had his own issues, as we, as we've
- 1:18:50all known. I will say this.
- 1:18:52I I'm kind of glad in a way that he left Pink Floyd, because if
- 1:18:55he hadn't, he wouldn't have made Amused to Death, which is one of
- 1:18:59the best damn albums. He's he couldn't have done that
- 1:19:03with Pink Floyd. Amused to Death is an album that
- 1:19:07everybody should listen to at least once, I think.
- 1:19:09All right. And you?
- 1:19:10Know Rodger and Sid were childhood friends too, so maybe
- 1:19:13that's why it's easy to see it both ways.
- 1:19:15Yeah. All right.
- 1:19:17So all that said, when the Tigers broke free, gets a one
- 1:19:20and goes into the bin unfortunately.
- 1:19:24So just to kind of bow that up, Chad.
- 1:19:29All right, well, I'm going to just, you know, say the obvious.
- 1:19:32Shine on, you crazy diamond. Yes.
- 1:19:36Yeah. Yes.
- 1:19:37No. Wow.
- 1:19:41I knew it based on Wish You Were here.
- 1:19:42I knew it. I knew there.
- 1:19:42I knew it wasn't going to get a perfect five.
- 1:19:44That is hilarious. Wow, wow.
- 1:19:47And we? Were just talking about Sid man
- 1:19:49I. Mean there's a story that when
- 1:19:56they were recording that song, Sid actually showed up to the
- 1:19:59studio and they're all kind of like, who the fuck is this?
- 1:20:03And they realized it was Sid and he was like, you know, I'm here
- 1:20:06to play my part. And they're like, Oh my God,
- 1:20:08this is really fucking weird. Yeah, he showed up bald and
- 1:20:12looking like like a homeless guy, and he actually sis stood
- 1:20:16in the back of the studio for a while.
- 1:20:18They didn't even notice him. I was wondering who's going to
- 1:20:21tell that story. And that was actually the last
- 1:20:24time they saw Sid before he passed away.
- 1:20:28Everybody was saying how sad they were.
- 1:20:32And when you figure if you hear that, that whole collection of
- 1:20:36songs that makes on Shine on you Crazy Diamond, it makes it it
- 1:20:40makes it that much more tragic, I think all.
- 1:20:46Right. Let me count here, 12345678.
- 1:20:53I think at this point maybe we got one more round in US and
- 1:20:57then we'll dump out. I don't feel like I'm going to
- 1:21:03find you guys on any of these, so I'll just start somewhere
- 1:21:07here at the top. How about burning bridges?
- 1:21:12Nah. No.
- 1:21:15All right, easy enough. Ben Fredo, I'm.
- 1:21:20Going to go with I think what could be the last real attempt
- 1:21:26at at making this list and it's off.
- 1:21:30Dark side of the moon, Us and them.
- 1:21:33No, yes. Yes.
- 1:21:36Yes. Who said no?
- 1:21:40Me. That's a four.
- 1:21:45That's a four. You didn't.
- 1:21:51You didn't you? You didn't vote for it because
- 1:21:54of the sax solo. If anything, that would have
- 1:21:57probably boosted it. I mean, looking at my list, if
- 1:22:00I, if I had to guess, maybe subconsciously, I just didn't
- 1:22:03take all of dark side like I was trying to keep space for what
- 1:22:08was left. I, I don't have an I don't have
- 1:22:12a real answer for you. So, Peter.
- 1:22:20This is probably This is probably their sleaziest song,
- 1:22:24but by design, Young lust. Yeah, I got it.
- 1:22:33No. I don't have it, but I'm going
- 1:22:38to raise a techni, A technicality here.
- 1:22:40I have Empty Spaces and on the studio version of the wall Empty
- 1:22:45Spaces goes into young lust. See, this is what This is why I
- 1:22:49can't stand this shit. This.
- 1:22:53All technicalities count, no? Yeah, this is exactly why this
- 1:22:57talk, this episode took so long to come together.
- 1:23:02So is that? Is that a yes or no?
- 1:23:05I do not have young lust, I have empty spaces and that's why I
- 1:23:08was. If if we put together brain
- 1:23:11damage and eclipse, I think that has to be put together.
- 1:23:17Which album is that again? That wall.
- 1:23:20That's the wall. I have to find where the fuck
- 1:23:22that is there it is, so I'll technically put that as U 3
- 1:23:30because technically I don't sign off on that technically just to
- 1:23:35kind of bring it in this this spreadsheet is a mess.
- 1:23:39Y'all, This is a mess. All right, Let me shift that up
- 1:23:44and we'll come back to that later, I guess.
- 1:23:48All right, so that was Fredo. No, that I'm sorry.
- 1:23:53Young Less was Peter, Chris. I'm going to go with the other
- 1:23:59song on the final cut that I put in the Gunner's dream.
- 1:24:04No, no. No.
- 1:24:06It's a great. Song too.
- 1:24:08Yeah, love the song but still a no all.
- 1:24:11Right in the bin it goes. And Chad?
- 1:24:16All right, so maybe it's maybe it's ironic that I'm going last
- 1:24:19year. All 10 of my songs have been
- 1:24:22hit, my top 10. So I could just throw one out
- 1:24:27there that's next on the list that hasn't been discussed yet.
- 1:24:31And that would be Mother on the Wall.
- 1:24:33Nope. No, yes.
- 1:24:36Hey. No.
- 1:24:40That's a 2. It gets to not just it just it
- 1:24:46gets bend later is the way. It agreed, that's how and that's
- 1:24:50how I thought about it as well. Yeah.
- 1:24:53All right. So I'll dump out here with the
- 1:24:55rest of mine. I think that means I how many
- 1:24:58got left? I think it's seven, really.
- 1:25:01Yeah, I've got 2 left. Yeah, see, that's, that's why I
- 1:25:04feel like this was the time to dump.
- 1:25:06All right, So starting at the top, I've got the gold.
- 1:25:10It's in the. Yes, yes, and that's, and that's
- 1:25:15such a great. I mean, Gilmore's solo on that
- 1:25:20is just amazing. All right, so no one else.
- 1:25:29No. No.
- 1:25:32No, no all. Right, we'll take that too then.
- 1:25:35It's better than getting bend. Oh, and that's also awful
- 1:25:38Obscured by Clouds, which might be the first song from that
- 1:25:41album. Yeah.
- 1:25:44Somebody played Burning Bridges earlier, that was.
- 1:25:47Me and it got bend OK so. All right, so it's just.
- 1:25:51All right, all right. Well, I'm staying on that
- 1:25:53record. Free 4.
- 1:25:56Nope. No, but I love that song.
- 1:26:01OK, I love it, but I don't have it all.
- 1:26:03Right, heading over to dark side, any color you like.
- 1:26:12Yes. OK.
- 1:26:14No, no. I'm accepting these twos as wins
- 1:26:20for me. I don't care.
- 1:26:23They don't stand a chance. But the fact that they're not
- 1:26:26just going directly into the bin is OK by me.
- 1:26:29All right? My two final cuts.
- 1:26:34Paranoid eyes. Nope.
- 1:26:37No. No.
- 1:26:40No, no. Not now, John.
- 1:26:44Yep. Hey.
- 1:26:47No. I love it, but no.
- 1:26:50It's #20 on my list, but it's a no.
- 1:26:55All right. But like you said, the fairness,
- 1:26:58my whole top 10 has been we're, I'm, I'm dead at this point in
- 1:27:02the conversation. Think it's the only Pink Floyd
- 1:27:04song with an F bomb in it. I didn't clock that, but why
- 1:27:09would I? And last but not least, the show
- 1:27:13must go on. No.
- 1:27:18No. No, that's like one of the 4000
- 1:27:23little bitty songs that Fredo was bitching about.
- 1:27:30All right, into the bin it goes. What did I get?
- 1:27:33Like 6 in the bin, 7 in the bin, wolf.
- 1:27:38All right. Get to a top ten from your bin
- 1:27:40songs. I know, right?
- 1:27:42All right, So I mean, that's it for we can't get any more
- 1:27:45unanimous officially, so 2, which means none of us win,
- 1:27:49which means we've still got a long night ahead of us, fellas.
- 1:27:55All right, Fredo, I mean, at this point I think you should
- 1:27:59have, what, 3? I got three, yeah, exactly.
- 1:28:03Off a metal. We got childhood's end some, I'm
- 1:28:10assuming, from that silence. That's nobody.
- 1:28:12Oh, from animals. I have pigs.
- 1:28:17Pigs on the wing. No.
- 1:28:21No. Nope.
- 1:28:24And, and I will say that I picked that one in honor of my
- 1:28:31friend Andy, who when I got out of the Navy and I got divorced
- 1:28:40and I was on the radio so everybody thought I was living
- 1:28:43large. But Justin will tell you I was
- 1:28:46broke as shit. And I was.
- 1:28:47Homeless and Yep. And and Andy was the guy who to
- 1:28:51who him and his wife took me in and he was a huge Pink Floyd
- 1:28:57friend and he always told me and he just passed away about a
- 1:29:01month ago, a month and a half ago.
- 1:29:02Oh man. And and he always wanted that
- 1:29:06that song Pigs on the wing one and one and two played at his
- 1:29:10funeral. So it was that that that means a
- 1:29:15lot to me. Of course, you guys honor that
- 1:29:19fight. Nobody voting for it.
- 1:29:21So woof as as is, you know, tradition with any song that
- 1:29:27means something to me on these shows.
- 1:29:29So. Do do you whine like this on
- 1:29:32every episode, Fredo? I mean.
- 1:29:33Every. Every, every fucking episode,
- 1:29:38it's my thing. At least everybody seems sees
- 1:29:41the same side of you because it's the same way at the lounge
- 1:29:43when when we're smoking our cigars, of course.
- 1:29:46And then my last one off the wall is the trial.
- 1:29:51Oh, very good. I want tear down the wall.
- 1:29:56Tear. Down the wall.
- 1:29:58No. All right, they go, my 3 whiz.
- 1:30:01All right. Let me shift that real quick and
- 1:30:04then we will move on to Peter at this point where you have two.
- 1:30:08Yeah, I've got two. I've got a sheep.
- 1:30:14Yes. Hey, you and Chris right in line
- 1:30:19the. Only ones who like animals.
- 1:30:21Yeah. And finally, the Fletcher
- 1:30:25Memorial Home. No, but oh man.
- 1:30:31Yeah, I'm the same way. It's a no, but again, I like
- 1:30:34that one. Hey I.
- 1:30:36Gave you pigs on the wing. You didn't jump on that one, so
- 1:30:39I don't want to hear it. All right, Chris, what do you
- 1:30:45got left? I guess I got. 1.
- 1:30:48For funsies, yeah. I just got 1, The Obscure but
- 1:30:53Obscure by Clouds, the title track.
- 1:30:56Just for funsies, it goes into the bin, but OK, there you go.
- 1:31:01I love it when they do that live because they actually live.
- 1:31:05They do Obscure by Clouds and they go directly into the next
- 1:31:08song on the album. They actually performing just
- 1:31:10one, the next song called When You're In and those two
- 1:31:14together. That's fantastic.
- 1:31:17Unrelated, but semi related, because the next track is what's
- 1:31:21the deal? I think.
- 1:31:22And somebody answered that on, on threads and I didn't know.
- 1:31:28I, I, I didn't clock that it was the name of a song.
- 1:31:31So I answered them thinking I was like, oh, we're doing an
- 1:31:34episode on Pink Floyd. And then I was looking at the
- 1:31:37playlist. I was like, oh, duh, that's the
- 1:31:38name of a song. Hey man, I'm sorry, I'm stupid.
- 1:31:41Here we go. What's the deal?
- 1:31:46Comfortably numb and hey, you are the 2 that are in this
- 1:31:50spreadsheet is an absolute disaster here.
- 1:31:54Let's start with these fours. Chad though.
- 1:32:00He said he was out. So my so my top ten are all on.
- 1:32:04They all made the cut except for my #10, which is welcome machine
- 1:32:07is a three. And I will also say I'm I'm I'm
- 1:32:10Tooting my own horn here because I'm such a big boy fan of my 15.
- 1:32:14All of them were three or higher because I only had four threes
- 1:32:18and then two of them were not two of them were ones and two.
- 1:32:21So anyhow, I I was actually pretty in line with the group,
- 1:32:23thankfully. You, you only did 15 songs.
- 1:32:26You could have did 20. Yeah, no.
- 1:32:28No, I did 25, but I'm saying of my top 15, of my top 15, they
- 1:32:35were, but all of them but two or three or higher to include my
- 1:32:39top nine were all fours or fives.
- 1:32:41All right, so. That's what I'm just bragging.
- 1:32:43I'm just bragging a little. Give me some.
- 1:32:45I mean, this part of my only episode ever.
- 1:32:46Let me live in my glory right now.
- 1:32:48Why you? I mean again.
- 1:32:49There you go. It hurts.
- 1:32:51Kind of rain on your parade comfortably numb and hey, you
- 1:32:55are in all right, So let's look at these fours.
- 1:32:56We've got 12345678 and then the 087 cuz three of these three is
- 1:33:09it these are brick is brick in or outlet's start there?
- 1:33:15I say NI. Oof, you, you know, I, I, I, I
- 1:33:25want brain damage eclipse then. So if, if if if if I say brick
- 1:33:36is in then and I want to really push for brain damage eclipse.
- 1:33:40I think we had I hold on 121234567891011, but three of
- 1:33:53those are bricks. So technically that's 88 fours
- 1:34:00and then technically fearless or not fearless eclipse brain
- 1:34:03damage is technically a four. So what I'm going to do is mark
- 1:34:08that those as fours so they can go up there in the conversation.
- 1:34:12All right, let how we'll do this.
- 1:34:17We'll run down. God, this is this is everything
- 1:34:21I was talking about. This is miserable.
- 1:34:26This it's just not clean. I guess, you know, is the the
- 1:34:31way to put it. All right, let me shift this
- 1:34:34around and then I'll read all these off.
- 1:34:38Have a cigar time Wish you were here.
- 1:34:42Money. Great gig in the sky, brick.
- 1:34:47Shine on you crazy Diamond US and them and then eclipse brain
- 1:34:54damage. Those are all the fours, I
- 1:34:58think. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:35:04Is is there anything? We got to kill one right?
- 1:35:06I think. I'm willing to, I'm, I'm willing
- 1:35:12to pull my support for us and them.
- 1:35:16OK. I can.
- 1:35:20I can leave that one too. Does anybody really want to
- 1:35:24stick up for us and them? Now's now's the time.
- 1:35:31There. There's a part of me that really
- 1:35:32wants to be a stick in the ointment here because this is
- 1:35:36the bartering that happened the last time I was on the show
- 1:35:40between the Tom Sawyer and the Spirit of Radio.
- 1:35:45So it Fred, is this is this kind of like the default for for for
- 1:35:49you? I just I I'm just wondering.
- 1:35:50No, what? Well, in a way it is because you
- 1:35:53know what, we literally I do this for Justin because by just
- 1:36:01saying, by by falling on the sword and saying, hey, I voted
- 1:36:05for this song. I'm willing to give it up so
- 1:36:08that we can move forward, you know, and, and I don't hear any
- 1:36:13of you guys saying, oh, you know what, you know what?
- 1:36:16Fuck, have a cigar. We won't do that one.
- 1:36:18And, and so it's like, OK, look, here's a song.
- 1:36:24I voted for it. If, if, if we got to get rid of
- 1:36:28it to make a more cohesive list or a, or better represent
- 1:36:33representation of a list, I'm willing to, you know, I'm
- 1:36:37willing to bite the bullet on it.
- 1:36:38That's why I do this. OK, All right.
- 1:36:41I, I can, I can, I can side with you on that.
- 1:36:44All right, so we'll lay us and them down.
- 1:36:48Is there anything else here that all the multiple parts are all
- 1:36:53the multiple part songs in? So we're looking at Brick Shine
- 1:36:58On and Eclipse Brain Damage like those are all our multi parts.
- 1:37:03That that should put us at 10, right?
- 1:37:06Hold on 123456789. Oh yeah, you're right.
- 1:37:16Yeah, it for some reason it has shine on in different different
- 1:37:24parts of my list like not, not together.
- 1:37:27So yes. All right, let me that sounds
- 1:37:32like we've got our 10 and to me that's like the simplest.
- 1:37:34Let me make sure. Boom boom.
- 1:37:40You don't read them out, just just read out the the titles.
- 1:37:43I will, I will. Comfortably numb.
- 1:37:47Hey, you have a cigar time. Wish you were here.
- 1:37:52Money. Great gig in the sky, Another
- 1:37:54brick in the wall. Parts 1-2 and three shine on
- 1:37:57you. Crazy diamond parts one through
- 1:37:598000 and then eclipse Slash. Brain damage, I think, see, this
- 1:38:09isn't even going to come up to 10.
- 1:38:10It's going to come up to more to 10 than 10 because it's.
- 1:38:16Hold on. Yeah, it's going to say
- 1:38:18technically 14. So 12345678910.
- 1:38:25Yes, we're there. Holy shit.
- 1:38:32Miserable experience, but great, great fun episode.
- 1:38:36All right, so now let's do the next part.
- 1:38:40Comfortably numb. Comfortably numb.
- 1:38:42Hey, you have a cigar time. Wish you were here.
- 1:38:45Money. The great gig in the sky.
- 1:38:47Another brick in the wall. Shine on, you crazy diamond
- 1:38:49Eclipse slash Brain damage. Fredo, I read you those 10
- 1:38:53songs. Which one's the one?
- 1:39:01Tell you what I want and then I'll tell you what everybody
- 1:39:05else would probably go for. I want either have a cigar or
- 1:39:10brain damage slash eclipse, but the one that makes the most
- 1:39:15sense is going to be comfortably numb.
- 1:39:18I mean, what do you think, Peter?
- 1:39:24Definitely comfortably numb. I mean, that's the one we
- 1:39:26immediately all agreed on. What do you think, Chris?
- 1:39:36Yes, I think Comfortably Numb should be at the top of the
- 1:39:38list. And Chad, I agree.
- 1:39:44There you go. I, I love that you're wanting to
- 1:39:47throw some other stuff out there, but I think, I think
- 1:39:53basing, basing what other people's experiences.
- 1:39:58I mean, now, granted, other people's experiences aren't
- 1:40:01going to be like mine where they have to kind of like confine
- 1:40:04their listening in in a space. And here's the thing.
- 1:40:08I'll say if you if we have done our job and have convinced you
- 1:40:12and you listen to our list and you like it and it does make you
- 1:40:15want to give Pink Floyd a go. Give it space.
- 1:40:19Like I think that is the one thing that was lacking for me
- 1:40:23being able to truly enjoy this band was was having space.
- 1:40:26That said, I feel like comfortably numb lives in the
- 1:40:30space that we're trying to give and I feel like it didn't.
- 1:40:37It didn't do it when I first heard it, but doing this
- 1:40:41episode, open the door, like I said, and I think I think if we
- 1:40:45said here, here's comfortably Numb and somebody like went on
- 1:40:49and just kind of listened to it for what it was.
- 1:40:52I think he opened the door for what Pink Floyd is and can kind
- 1:40:55of expand into all this other stuff.
- 1:41:01I think this is a great list. All right, Fredo is accepting
- 1:41:07and using this acceptance stage. I mean, it's not like you didn't
- 1:41:11know that was going to happen. So all right, Comfortably Numb
- 1:41:15is going to be our number one. And then let me get that going
- 1:41:19underneath us and I'll go it down at one last time.
- 1:41:24Comfortably numb. Hey, you have a cigar time.
- 1:41:27Wish you were here. Money, the great gig in the sky,
- 1:41:30another brick in the wall parts one through 3 shine on you Crazy
- 1:41:33diamond, all 8000 parts of it and eclipse slash brain damage
- 1:41:38is our 10th. And what a beautiful mess.
- 1:41:42But comfortably numb. Let's let it get a moment in the
- 1:41:46sun. Before Spotify tries to get me,
- 1:42:01I'm going to head in. Scroll that down.
- 1:42:05We've done it. Hopefully we've turned you on to
- 1:42:07Pink Floyd. And I hope me using the word
- 1:42:10misery didn't turn you off because yes, it was a miserable
- 1:42:14experience. But as I mentioned, it was a
- 1:42:16miserable experience based on the way we do the show.
- 1:42:22Give this band space and I think you'll enjoy it.
- 1:42:24If I have the time to give Pink Floyd the space, I think I'm
- 1:42:29going to enjoy this band. As of right now, this was a
- 1:42:34mess, a very beautiful mess, but we put it together.
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