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Guest Hypnotist: Breathwork & Personal Evolution with Rene Brent: From Nursing to Dharma · The Hypnotist

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access to cutting edge hypnosis with real clients facing genuine
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issues. Brought to you by the
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Hypnotherapist, Demanded by celebrities, CEOs and even
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royalty Adam Cox. These recordings took place live
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from Evans Clinic in London's world famous Harley Street.
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So get yourself comfortable and enjoy today's episode of The
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Hypnotist. One of the great things about
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being a hypnotherapist is that I get to speak at some of the
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biggest hypnosis conferences in the world.
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I speak at Hypno Thoughts Live in Las Vegas.
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I speak at the UK Hypnosis Convention in London.
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I speak at the Irish Hypnosis Convention in Dublin and more
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recently I've been at the Midwest or the, sorry, the Mid
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America Hypnosis conference in Chicago.
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So I get invited to speak either in person or sometimes
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virtually. So I've spoken at the New
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Zealand Hypnosis Convention, for example, and and various other
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association of hypnosis and NLP board, I've spoken at their
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conference. So when you do that, you get to
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meet. Loads and loads.
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Of hypnotherapists, and one of the hypnotherapists that I met
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very early in my conference career was at Hypno Thoughts in
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Vegas, and it's now at the Sahara on the Strip.
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But it used to be at the Old Orleans just off the Strip, and
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they did this thing where they would have this kind of bowling
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night. Where all these?
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Hypnotherapists would get into teams, but that very first year
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I didn't know anyone so I just got matched with other
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hypnotherapists. And the guest hypnotherapist on
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today's session is a lady called Renee Brent.
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Very good, very competent hypnotherapist, but now known
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for fusing breathwork and hypnosis.
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So it's not going to be me as your hypnotherapist in this
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session. It's going to be Renee and she's
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going to be talking and we we discuss lots of things about
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breath work and hypnosis. But there is a little breath
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work example, the demonstration at the end and I think you'll
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find it very profound and very useful.
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So get yourself nice and comfortable and relaxed and
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enjoy. Hi, it's Adam here and welcome
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to the hypnotist. Now I'm not going to be your
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host hypnotist today because I'm joined by a very special guest
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hypnotist, someone I met at Hypnot Thoughts Live about four
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years ago. Renee Brent, welcome to the
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show. Thank you, Adam.
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Yes, you and I put together on a team for bowling and off we
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went. We didn't know each other.
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Actually we did pretty we we did pretty well in that.
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In bowling, I think we had some tough competitors, but we didn't
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do too bad. We we we did and and and just
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going to set the scene for everyone.
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So Hypno thoughts is now in the Sahara on on the strip.
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But four years ago, it was at the Old Orleans off the Strip,
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and there was a bowling alley like on the top floor of this,
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this kind of resort. And all the different
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hypnotherapists were kind of paired off into different teams.
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And I think there's about four or five of us.
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And we, we did pretty well. We scored, we scored well.
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I think we. Did we?
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Did we? Yeah, yeah.
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That was a lot of fun. I do like to bowling.
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I'm a sometimes an amazing bowler and sometimes a horrific
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bowler, but it averages out to about 110.
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So is my score usually. So that's not so bad because
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sometimes I just lose the plot and I just gutter ball it.
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So I. I have an interesting angry
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though about bowling because I don't know if this is mirror
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neurons or social proof, but my uncle lives in Florida and I
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visited him when I was about I think 19 or or 20 and we went to
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a bowling alley and they're in Florida, in Fort Lauderdale.
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It was just, I think it was like midweek and it was just filled
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with pensioners. Everyone's like 70 or 80 and
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they're amazing at bowling and I'm seeing strike after strike
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after strike and it is the only time in my life I've got more
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than 200 because I'm just surrounded by these kind of
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really old dudes and women as well, just getting strike after
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strike. And something rubbed off of me
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and I was just kind of getting all these incredible scores and
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I've never. Been on that's.
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Amazing. Yeah, that's amazing.
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I love Oh yes. League bowling is huge around
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here. Huge.
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I'm in I'm in Orlando and but anywhere I've been in Illinois,
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but league bowling is the deal now.
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I think sometimes it's an excuse to drink during the day,
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honestly, but they really they're really good bowlers.
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They really are. But it's a lot of fun anyway.
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I'm I'm happy to be here with you, Adam.
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Absolutely, and I'm fascinated at how hypnotherapists become
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hypnotherapists because everyone's got a bit of a back
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story. So tell us how you ended up in
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this wonderful world called hypnosis.
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So this is interesting. I been a nurse, I've been a
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registered nurse. I did ICU, trauma, ER recovery
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room. I loved being a nurse.
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I was very, very good at it. And I was trying to get pregnant
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with my third child. My other two girls were just
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like easy breezy and then I wasn't getting pregnant with my
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third child, but I knew there was a third baby waiting for me
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and I was driving my husband at the time crazy and he sent me
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away to a spa in Miami. Well there was this guy there
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who called himself the hypnotist, but I didn't know
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what that was. But I knew that I needed
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something and I did 2 sessions with him.
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This guy I didn't know. I wish I knew his name today.
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And he helped me understand in the session, the two sessions I
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did, that the mind will not let you become something you
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disagree with. The subconscious will block us.
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And my true depth of who I was didn't believe I'd be as good as
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mom to the third child as I was to the 1st 2:00, because there
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were times when I felt overwhelmed because they were 18
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months apart. And he also did some clearing,
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He did some body somatic work. I had no idea what he was doing.
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And the next month, I got pregnant with my son, who's now
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28 years old. So I really understood the power
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of the mind, but I got busy and I left it alone and I didn't
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even think about hypnosis and I would got divorced from a 20
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year marriage, which was very hard for me.
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And anybody who's been through a divorce, all your listeners will
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know this. It sets you out of your comfort
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zone, kicks you out of your nest a little bit, which is very hard
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to do, but it's so good in many ways because what that does, we
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know. And I know now because I know
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mind, body connection, it, it weakens, it lowers this critical
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factor that kind of blocks the subconscious mind.
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This is why you feel so open and raw when you're going through a
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near death experience or a diagnosis or a divorce,
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something that's very, very difficult.
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It opens you up, but now you can make change.
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And I was making incredible change.
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And I knew that there was something different than I
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wanted to do. And Long story short, I was on a
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treadmill, and I didn't even have earbuds in.
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I was training for a marathon like every divorcee does.
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You're like getting in shave. You want to, you know, really be
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athletic and youthful. And I saw a video of a
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hypnotherapist, A hypnotist who was being interviewed.
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And it was like boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Everything came together, Me in that moment, Adam.
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And they knew that that's what I was supposed to do.
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I knew I was supposed to leave nursing and do something
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different. And that day I signed up for
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school. I never looked back.
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And that was almost 14 years later and here.
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I am doing this. Incredible Mine.
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Yeah, not, not with the break up at the time, but I, I, I built
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APR agency. And you know, if you're familiar
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with icky guy, you'll, you'll know this, but it's kind of the
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four Venn diagrams. And I was kind of like, I was
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successful. I was getting paid for it and I
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was good at it, but I wasn't, I wasn't passionate about it.
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And and then I kind of asked myself the question like, what
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is it that I naturally think about naturally do and there's
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no money involved. I just do it because I, I really
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like doing it. I was like, OK, hypnosis,
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hypnotherapy and LP. And then literally the next day
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I signed up for a postgraduate kind of course.
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So it went when it hits you and, and some people will be
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listening to this thinking, yeah, I don't really feel that
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way about what they're doing. But when it hits you, when you,
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when it kind of makes sense, when the penny drops as to what
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you're meant to be doing, you can move pretty quick and you
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can go from that place of feeling quite frustrated and
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unsure to very aligned very, very quickly.
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Yeah. It doesn't mean there's not
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thoughts of of Oh no, what did I do?
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Or am I doing the right thing? That's not it.
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You will feel it in your body when it's a yes, the body will
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absolutely give you a yes. It's more open, it's more broad,
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it's lighter. A no feels very heavy and very
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dense, right? So in that moment, because I was
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so open, it just got me. And running, by the way, is very
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hypnotic, right? It's it, it, it, it sends off
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these these endorphins and all of this that just quiet down the
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body. And I was definitely in a trance
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as I was running and it just hit me and it just aligned, You
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know, when I first started taking the class, the instructor
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of the school is a 500 hour course.
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And so it was all through the basics and then to metaphysical.
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And he talked about Dharma, right?
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And I just kind of roll my eyes because at that point I was very
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close heart. I was very science based, right?
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And I tell me a word like Dharma and I'm going to roll my eyes at
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you, right? And I think about that so often
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now because I truly am in my Dharma and Darba just means that
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you're aligned to your passion, what you want to do and and
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you're you're actually doing it. And I get a front row seat.
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And I know you, you know, you do your stuff online.
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I do have in my office here and I do online, but I get a front,
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we get a front row seat to people understanding and
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clearing and releasing and what I call becoming the boss of the
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subconscious mind. When we're not in the building,
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when we're not in our body and our subconscious mind, our
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automation is running, running the factory.
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So we got to get in the building.
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No, no boss would never. That was really bad English as
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as an American, someone who owns a company would always be in the
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building to make sure that things are running as they want
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is fluid for the success of the company.
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Some people don't even do that. They don't, they don't, they
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never drop into their body to say, hey, I'm here.
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This is how I want to do that. Thanks, but no thanks.
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We're doing it this way now. So being a boss is really
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important. And I love doing, I love, love
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doing what I do. It's it's a real honor.
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Yeah, it's it's having that hybrid between manual and
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autopilot. And you don't want to be kind of
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fully present with everything because when people talk about
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mindfulness, it's kind of like, OK, if I'm tying my shoelaces or
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if I'm just kind of brushing my teeth, I don't need to be
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mindful when I do that. I want that to be on autopilot.
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But there's some things, you know, that might be pleasurable
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or might be big decisions that you're making, you want to be
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fully present and you don't want to just go on autopilot for
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those things because this is how a lot of people get manipulated.
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And, and I people think that you see people in a trance on a
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stage, hypnosis show or in a therapy room.
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I see people in a trance on, on the London Underground all the
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time staring into their phones. I see people queuing up in a
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checket in a supermarket. They're in a deep trance.
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And when you're in a trance and you see that, that chocolate
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bar, you know, that's, that's a program running, that's a post
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hypnotic suggestion. So it can be quite dangerous to
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kind of be on that autopilot too much because other people are
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making decisions for you. It is.
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There's a difference between being on autopilot and being in
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trance state and being the observer of yourself in your
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life, right? Because if I'm in a trance and
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I'm just chilling out at the let's say I'm in line and I look
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at all the candy, I, it's interesting because I'm the
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observer of what they're, what the magazines have on in the
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United States magazine. We have everything for sale
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there. It's all designed to get our
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attention and someone who knows about programming right and
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suggestions. It fascinates me.
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The colors, the font, the, the pictures, all of it is designed
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to manipulate us into grabbing it and putting it down and, and
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spending our money. So it just fascinates me.
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But when you can be the observer and then become the boss, right?
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And make things conscious for a while and be the observer, like
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being on the side of a riverbank versus being in the, in the, in
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the flow, right? There's a difference between
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survival and being the observer. When you can do that now you
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could see what you want to change, what you want to keep.
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And then after that, now it becomes automation of what you
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want. When I had to tell you, when I
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learned to open my heart through a lot of hard work, you have to
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do your work. I had to go in.
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I had to be in the building, so to speak, with my subconscious
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mind. The first thing my instructor
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said to me was we can only take people as far as we are in this
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work. And I was like a oh, crap moment
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because I was like, Ah, I don't feel very far, you know, And I
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was just starting on my journey of healing, to be honest.
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So I got right into my own sessions in hypnotherapy and,
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and my own breath work stuff. And I, I really understood that
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I had to. And I still do my own work.
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I still do when I feel like I'm stuck or another layers coming
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up, then I will do ayahuasca or plant medicine or breath work or
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something like this for myself. Because when when we think our
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healing is done, that's when the ego has stepped in, in my
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opinion. Yeah.
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And and it's almost like a little bit of when complacency
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kicks in, it's got an ace up its sleeve.
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It'll play a trick on you. It'll kind of test you a little
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bit just to kind of see, see how much more work you've you've got
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to do. So being humble, I think is is
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quite a useful, you know, kind of quality in that sense.
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When we met in in Chicago at the Mid America conference, I didn't
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realize that breath work is is such an area that you kind of
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specialized in. How did you how did you get into
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that area? So hypnotic therapeutic breath
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work. The school that I went to is the
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only school that really trains in breath work as part of its
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clinical package. It's 100 hours of clinical work.
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Why? Because the breath really kind
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of clears. I found myself personally
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because I was such a had such a closed heart, lot of trauma when
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I was young, lot of drug addiction.
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I have two siblings that died at 52, both of them from drug and
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alcohol. Mother and father, both
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Alcoholics big and I. So I understand addiction.
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I'm there. And I as a sister who's been
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clean for 40 years and another brother I have 6/5 of 6/1 who
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has never drank ever. He just won't do it.
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And I somewhere landed in this kind of moderation kind of
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awareness and I have a lot of, I have a lot of gratitude for
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that. And so but what I did to manage
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my life, I thought chemistry and you just push it down.
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That's what happens. Every thought creates chemistry.
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And then we can't have time to feel it or even have any energy
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for it to stay safe. It all went in my physical body,
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Adam. So for me, breath work was the
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only way through my very analytical science based mind to
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breakthrough because once you're once after my divorce after
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about nine months, then that critical factor, right, the
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default modes really, you know, gears up again.
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So I needed something that was going to release that and and
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slow that down for me. And breath work was what did it
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for me. So I've done a lot of breath
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personally and then I started studying all kinds of breath
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work and I understood what I learned was great, but I wanted
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to do it a little bit more and combine more hypnosis and breath
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work. Because when you breathe
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rhythmically, it's closest to, I would say a transformational
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breath work. It's a cyclical breath.
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Inhale and stop at the top or bottom.
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It's not holotropic. Holotropic is a little bit more
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chaotic and energy based. This is fully therapeutic and
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when I started leading my clients through that who were
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like me, right? We get we get who we are right
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and who were locked in history of addiction or family of
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addiction, a very analytical. I needed a way I needed
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something traditional hypnosis wasn't going to do it.
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It was it wasn't getting in there.
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They were just too guarded and I started doing breath work and
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then it just, I would see these people open up and I understood
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that's something as I've been going through in the last, you
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know, almost 14 years in the hypno world, I realized that
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there, there aren't many people doing it in their practice.
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And I think we're missing a really powerful technique.
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So I started putting it all together in my own kind of
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package of what it is hypnotic therapeutic breath work.
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And the last thing I want to do really, my life is amazing is
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start working harder. But I realized that I had to get
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out there and I had to train people.
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And that's what that's what I do now is really kind of focus.
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I do a lot of other kind of hypnosis in my practice, but
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combining hypnosis and breath work in this way is just so, so
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healing. It quiets the nervous system.
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It releases somatic stuck energy, which I had.
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And you people feel lighter. It's pretty incredible protocol.
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Have you ever done breath work like cyclical for like an hour?
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I, I have, and where I came across it because why I'm a
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therapist is I had severe social anxiety and, and probably, you
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know, quite, quite high level depression when I was like 19.
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And I came across this kind of pranayama, this kind of like
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almost kind of ratio breathing. And before I could get an app, I
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remember because I'm quite a techie nerd, I kind of had this
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audio editing and I just recorded breathe in and then I
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had silence and then I had hold and then silence and then
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breathe out and then, and then hold.
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And then I had all these different variations of
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different lengths. And I'm really, and, and this
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was, I was around 19 or, or 20. I was really grateful because I
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would do it for such a long period of time and I could get
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it to like breathe for an hour on one breath per minute.
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And, and I had no idea that I was really kind of building lung
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capacity and, and, and teaching myself to kind of breathe from
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the diaphragm. So, you know, people compliment
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me on my voice now, but I think it, it all came from learning to
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breathe from the diaphragm and, and, and, and having that
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ability to kind of project the voice because before then I was
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very, very shy, very introverted, always mumbling my
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words. And it kind of, it unlocked
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something. But I remember an early time of
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doing that. It was like 2025 minutes of
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these kind of very, kind of like strict ratios and, and like one
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breath per minute. And I remember just like
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bursting into tears. And it's like, where's this
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coming from? Like this has nothing to do with
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breathing. Like this is meant to be
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powering my lymphatic system and all this kind of stuff.
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And it was just, where did that come from?
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What's this thing? Emotion?
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What are the tears? Yeah, and it, and it dawned on
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me like you said, like I think the the English are quite well
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known for kind of like you sweep it under the carpet, you you
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bury it deep, you don't bring it up.
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But if you if you do that, you know, it's got to find its way
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out. And I think a lot of people that
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get into addiction and, you know, and, and destructive
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behaviours, they're trying to deal with the thing that's
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unresolved, you know, down believe.
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But if you, if you let it out, there's less things that you
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need to kind of do. And and so I accidentally kind
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of came across breath work, but it, it was, it was kind of very,
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very powerful and very useful for me.
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It is incredible and I love doing it one-on-one.
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I do do it with groups, but I love doing one-on-one because I
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do work with people who've done other forms of breath work.
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This is a cyclical hyperoxygenating and but when
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they're with me one-on-one now those motions, they flow, they
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flow out. Because what happens when
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there's a vibration that starts at about 15 minutes and when
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that vibration start, all that energy hits the muscles and any
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energy that's stuck in there starts vibrating out and starts
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moving. I like to say it's like a
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spatula under a stuck egg. And that energy that you didn't
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know that you were holding on from a car accident when you
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were 18 and your friend got hurt or your parents got divorced or
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whatever it is, that energy is in our physical body, right?
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And that's science. I come, I do come from a science
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perspective. Still.
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I tell people I'm not woo woo, I'm woo.
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I live in both worlds. I live in the science and I
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can't sit in the chair for this many years and and it's
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evidential. The metaphysical at this point
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is evidential. I see the energy releasing.
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I see people change in front of my very eyes.
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So there's a lot that shows up in in my room that I believe.
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But that energy starts moving and it clears and it leaves the
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fingers, it leaves the toes and it quiets down the nervous
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system and it opens up our vagal nerve.
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It's just the, the insight that people get and what I call the
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magic of the in between, right? When people can get to that
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point, they release and the inside is pretty profound.
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And I find that I really like to do one-on-one with clients
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because it gives them the opportunity to release.
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They laugh, they cry, they # a pillow, all of these things show
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up and they sometimes don't even know what it was that they
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released. And that's OK That's OK.
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Because when you pull that route now, people feel lighter.
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They can't even find the issue that they came in.
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And it's always an honor when people really allow.
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I, I laugh when people apologize for crying.
22:09
By the way, listeners do never apologize for crying.
22:12
Please, please, please never apologize for crying because
22:15
it's important. It's important.
22:16
It's our bodies. There's nothing in our physical
22:19
body that's not designed. It's all really high end real
22:23
estate. Right, it has a function.
22:25
It has a. Function.
22:26
And I remember the yeah. Do you remember the first Inside
22:30
Out movie, the, the Pixar movie? You know that that kind of that
22:34
hits you because it's what 1 is a great metaphor for parts
22:38
therapy and and control room of the mind.
22:41
But secondly, it's like sadness has a function, you know, and it
22:45
is that cathartic release, you know, and it is the kind of,
22:48
it's almost kind of like it kind of clears the decks and you can
22:51
kind of recalibrate. And I think a lot of people,
22:54
more often men, I think, than than women, it's kind of like, I
22:57
know I could never do that. But actually like, if you need
23:00
to like, why not? Like that would be a very, very
23:03
kind of apparel, you know, empowering thing.
23:06
But for me, it's kind of weird that more hypnotherapists don't
23:09
embrace breathwork, because how often does a hypnotherapy
23:14
session start with Take a deep breath in, you know it's.
23:17
Yes, the breath. It's, it's intuitive with this
23:20
is somehow to do with breathing. Breathe in relaxation, breathe
23:23
out tension. There's this element of slowing
23:26
down the breathing, activating the parasympathetic nervous
23:28
system. So it should be, you know, a
23:31
tool in the tool kit for every hypnotherapist to learn more
23:34
about this. It absolutely should.
23:35
It's why I'm out there. What I found, which was
23:38
fascinating to me because it's always just been part of my
23:41
hypnosis career because I learned it in school and I'm an
23:45
instructor for that school for the last 13 years.
23:47
So I've taught it and I've done it right.
23:51
So I never understood there is a belief system within the hypno
23:56
community that it's meant for yogi's to do, it's meant for
24:01
people who are to do the breath work.
24:03
Those are the people who should doing breath work and we
24:05
shouldn't be doing it. But I fundamentally disagree.
24:09
Why? Because hypnotist, we already
24:11
have the training, we have the protocol.
24:14
I am completely confident that whatever comes up with someone,
24:18
maybe it be a memory, maybe it be an attachment, maybe it be a
24:22
part, whatever's going to show up for someone, an emotional
24:26
state, I got the tools right. This is why I'm so I'm so
24:31
excited to share it with people and hypnotist and and the
24:34
hypnotherapy community, because we're set up to do it right and
24:39
group breath work. People let loose and if you
24:42
don't have somebody that's there to be able to manage, it can be
24:46
a little re traumatizing, to be honest.
24:48
So so you have to be ready for anything and you have to take it
24:52
very seriously. When I do it, I have to be
24:54
completely present to my clients when we're doing breath work.
24:57
But man is incredible modality. It really is in all aspects
25:01
somatic. It's really neuro somatic
25:04
healing. It really is and and and it
25:07
doesn't even have to be content driven, which is beautiful
25:10
sometimes because I have people like, I feel crappy.
25:12
How do you want to feel? I don't want to feel crappy
25:14
anymore. That's all they got for me
25:16
personally. If I cried, it was weakness and
25:20
I had experiences. If I cried, then I was weak.
25:23
So I learned very quickly to turn that off because it wasn't
25:25
safe, right? So to feel safe and, and, and to
25:29
be able to allow emotion is such an incredible freeing
25:33
experience, but also so, so healing.
25:36
You don't want your body to hold on to that.
25:38
Why not let it go? Why not let it go?
25:41
And. One of the, I would say
25:43
ambassadors of breath work in the last, you know, decade or
25:46
so, there's probably been Wim Hof, who, you know, is kind of
25:51
known for, you know, pretty incredible feats, almost like
25:54
some would say superhuman feats, you know, kind of going up to,
25:59
you know, top of Everest, you know, without any clothes on
26:01
and, you know, swimming in, in kind of freezing cold rivers
26:06
and, and all of this kind of stuff.
26:07
And he attributes a lot of that to, to breath and, and kind of
26:12
almost stimulating, you know, certain kind of features within
26:16
his body. What's your thoughts on his
26:18
approach to breath work and, and what hypnotherapist might take?
26:22
Because I think the, the, the kind of, the adventure community
26:26
has kind of embraced that. And the kind of, you know, the,
26:29
the, the kind of people that are up for the grind, 4:00 AM wake
26:33
ups, you know, cold plunges have really embraced that.
26:35
Do you think it kind of it works with the the hypnotherapy
26:39
community? So Wimhoff is interesting, by
26:42
the way, Wimhoff only started training because he just was
26:46
bombarded so often by people wanting to know what he did.
26:49
And the, the Wimhoff breath is different than the than the
26:53
cyclical breath that I do. But it does have a place for
26:56
sure. And some people really resonate
26:59
with Wimhoff that. But that's holds and breathing
27:02
and holds and breathing. What he's doing is really
27:04
definitely down grading the default mode.
27:07
He can do those things. He can jump into a freezing
27:09
river or hike barefoot, you know, in the mountain.
27:12
Why? Because most people can.
27:15
But the, the, that fear factor that, that default mode that
27:19
says, no, this is not safe. You are going to die if you do
27:24
this takes over. And then you're very primal and
27:27
nothing is helping The, the breath bypasses that.
27:30
And now you can get to the state and train to do that, which is
27:33
beautiful. It's a, it has a different
27:36
access. So what I do with Brett, when I
27:37
have a breath work client, I will tell them there's two
27:40
things that you can do and I want you to see which one works
27:43
best for you. You can do 5 minutes of the
27:45
cyclical breath. And that will, if I need energy
27:48
during the day, let's say, and I don't and I don't want to energy
27:51
drink so speak, I will do, I will do a few minutes of breath
27:55
work because it just stimulates everything, but it clears and it
28:00
opens up and it quiets down the nervous system.
28:02
So my anxiety clients are doing 5 minutes of this breath on
28:04
their own. It's a little hard to do it more
28:06
than that. But I also have them go find
28:08
someone doing Wim Hof. There are a lot of people doing
28:11
Wim Hof. There's a lot of videos doing
28:12
it. You got to just make sure that
28:14
you resonate with the person that's teaching you how to do
28:16
it. I suggest people in the
28:18
beginning watch a video because it's easier to follow and people
28:22
are visual and innately so. Watch a video and see which one
28:27
resonates with you more. Wim Hof or this kind of breath
28:30
or find a breath in general that works for you.
28:33
Right? I do this as a therapeutic
28:35
setting. I do do it in groups as well,
28:37
but for everyday use I would say you have to find your own
28:41
breath. But most people clench their jaw
28:45
and hold their breath. This is who we do what we do to
28:48
suppress their experiences, our emotion.
28:51
And we clench our jaw. When we clench our jaw and hold
28:55
our breath, we're, we're squeezing on the vagal nerve
28:58
that runs from our, our, our spine.
29:01
It's a, it's a cranial nerve 10 to our heart and our gut.
29:05
So when we clench our breath and hold our breath, you're
29:07
squeezing on the vagal nerve and you're sending a message, fight
29:10
or flight, we're in danger, danger, danger.
29:13
So you're pushing on the gas pedal for this anxiety, this
29:16
fear based, and I have to always say this every podcast or TV
29:20
show I do, anxiety is not an emotion.
29:24
Anxiety is a symptom of usually anticipatory fear, right?
29:28
I want people to know that it's a really clear message.
29:31
So if anxiety, if you're not labeled as anxiety, don't use
29:34
it. It's a big word that's not yours
29:36
to hold on to use the word fear. But when you bypass all of that
29:40
and you and you and you move forward and you deregulate, now
29:45
everything can quiet down. And it's it's pretty profound
29:47
when people do that. Yeah.
29:49
It's amazing how how many people are in this kind of sympathetic
29:52
nervous system because I think we're surrounded by stimulants,
29:56
you know, lots of caffeine and, and, and lots of kind of
29:58
dopamine and, and all of these things that keep us hyper alert.
30:01
And I think because of that, you get all of these kind of
30:04
thoughts of what's going to happen, what's the next shoe to
30:06
drop? And, and that keeps people in
30:08
that state. And most people are breathing
30:10
very shallow from the chest, never really activating the
30:13
diaphragm. And then it just means that you
30:15
can kind of have more of that. And I think it's a great
30:18
whatever, whatever way you do it, breath work, hypnotherapy,
30:22
meditation, you know, good relaxation, but kind of having
30:26
that calming element so the brain can just like, oh, don't
30:29
need to panic, it's safe. Fucking actually.
30:31
And a very simple way to do that is just pay attention to your
30:34
jaw during the day, relax your jaw.
30:37
And, and when we, before we end, I'll teach you a really your
30:40
listeners, an incredible tool to be able to do that.
30:43
But when you relax your jaw and you take conscious breath,
30:47
meaning conscious breath meanings, you just pay attention
30:49
to the rise and fall. You feel yourself in the chair,
30:52
you feel the air coming in. That's a conscious breath.
30:56
A big breath in and a sigh is incredible.
30:59
It's so funny when I, I'll do a, a I've trained myself on this
31:03
automation to take a breath like once every 20 minutes or
31:09
something. I just do it.
31:10
But if I, if I am in public or even around a friend and I said
31:15
you, you OK? Because people think a sigh
31:18
means that I'm in trouble. Actually, a sigh is a release.
31:21
It's the body's natural way to release the tension and to
31:25
release the tension in your jaw. So just do it on your own.
31:28
Consciously breathe, take that full side breath, just really
31:32
feel it. And then also relax your jaw.
31:34
When you do that all through the day, in the evening, you'll feel
31:38
more present, you'll sleep better.
31:41
You'll you won't be looking at your phone, you won't be eating
31:44
more sugar. You really make better
31:46
decisions. And when we're fatigued at the
31:48
end of the day, if you relax your jaw during the day, you're
31:51
telling. And every time you relax your
31:52
jaw, by the way you're telling you're in the building and
31:55
you're telling your subconscious mind, we can quiet down now.
31:58
We can quiet down now. And that's the magic of the in
32:01
between for sure. And I imagine people sleep
32:03
better as well because if you are in that kind of high alert,
32:06
hyper vigilant state, not good for sleeping, you know, whereas
32:10
if you've got that kind of slower, more kind of relaxed and
32:13
you've got that kind of rhythm, you know, much easier to get
32:16
into different brain waves and kind of drift into into sleep
32:19
than if you're kind of constantly on edge, which a lot
32:23
of people are. A lot of people are checking
32:24
their phone literally 10 seconds before they fall asleep.
32:27
It's in that kind of very kind of analytical present kind of
32:32
way of thinking. Absolutely relaxing.
32:34
Doing some breaths before you close your eyes is pretty
32:37
incredible. I became a sleep expert in this
32:41
work only because I was finding that if people are not sleeping,
32:45
the brain doesn't feel safe enough to create change.
32:48
So one of the first thing I do is help people sleep before they
32:51
even get in my office. Why?
32:53
Because the the there, if you're in in fight or flight or
32:56
survival mode, you're not going to go down in deep and allow
33:00
yourself to go into it. So I like to say sleep happens
33:05
in the morning when you wake up. So when you wake up in the
33:08
morning, preprogram each morning before you open your eyes,
33:13
because we're in a slower brain wave, that's all hypnosis is,
33:16
that's all meditation is. We have more access to our
33:19
brain. Before you even open your eyes,
33:22
you just tell your subconscious mind what you need for the day.
33:26
I need to eat clean or I need, I have this meeting or you know,
33:29
I'm meeting Aunt Millie at for Thanksgiving, you know, or, or
33:33
wherever we're going for a holiday.
33:34
Just give direction because that is you having a team meeting
33:38
with your inner in your, with your inner company, your inner
33:42
dialogue. And now you've set the tone.
33:45
But if you don't do something in the morning when you open your
33:47
eyes, before you open your eyes, you're on what I call an
33:50
emotional Groundhog, Adam. You're just inserting the same
33:53
thing day after day after day. And that if people pre program
33:56
in the morning and then they relax their jaw and they do some
34:00
breath, some conscious breathing during the day, they absolutely
34:03
are going to sleep better at night.
34:06
There's no problem. Well, I'm sure there's a lot of
34:08
people listening curious about breath work that we're talking
34:11
about and, and, and your way of doing that.
34:14
So do you want to guide us through a type of breath work
34:16
that you do so that we can experience it?
34:19
Absolutely, I would love this. So what I'm going to do, so the
34:22
hypnotic breath work that I do is I'll put someone into a light
34:26
trance. So I'm going to start everybody,
34:28
please don't do this while you're driving or you're in any
34:30
dangerous operating equipment, all of that kind of stuff.
34:32
I have to say that I live in these states, you know, we have
34:35
to make sure that we're covered legally, right?
34:39
But also, I want you to be able to close your eyes and really
34:41
enjoy this. I'm put them in a light trance,
34:43
which is the alpha sequence that I just taught a little bit of
34:45
before. And then we'll just do a minute
34:47
of the breath. And I have to tell you, if you
34:49
do this, if you practice this, you're going to quiet down
34:52
everything and just feel safer and more present in your life.
34:55
So go ahead everybody. Just close your eyes as you can.
34:58
Just go ahead and close your eyes.
35:00
As you close your eyes, just relax your jaw.
35:02
Drop your jaw down. Remember, when you relax your
35:05
jaw, you're quieting down your nervous system.
35:08
Now, I want you to soften your tongue.
35:10
Your tongue is directly connected to the language
35:12
centers of your brain. So when you drop your tongue
35:14
down a little bit, all that internal dialogue begins to
35:17
quiet a little bit. And that's OK Relax your jaw,
35:20
soften your tongue. And now consciously breathe,
35:23
feel the rise and fall. Maybe if you understand
35:26
diaphragmatic breathing, you can breathe from your diaphragm to
35:29
your chest. Feel the rise and fall of your
35:33
chest, the breath coming in, and just be in.
35:38
And you may even feel Now we're in just a moment your shoulders
35:41
or your body relaxing. Feel yourself in the chair.
35:45
Every time you feel yourself in the chair, you know you're safe.
35:48
Now go to my favorite places. This place in the top of your
35:52
head, this space in your head. I call this the free zone, the
35:55
safe darkness. Imagine you popped up to this
35:58
space in your head as you relax your jaws off in your tongue.
36:01
And imagine you could see all the way around you, above and
36:04
below, even behind you and this space and the space beyond that.
36:10
Now thoughts are going to come in.
36:11
That's OK. Where people who think it's
36:14
beautiful, but if the thoughts come in, just imagine they drop
36:18
away into this abyss of nothingness, expand and breathe
36:24
in this space. In this space, there's no body,
36:27
no thing, no past, no future. A free zone, neutral, if you
36:30
will. And this is a great place to
36:33
start the breath work. And what we're going to do is
36:36
breathe through your mouth and out through your mouth, from
36:40
your diaphragm to your chest and out in through Hale.
36:44
Breathe with me. There's no stop at the top or
36:49
the bottom. Now the first bit, you're going
36:51
to be yawning. You may feel a little light
36:53
headed. This is all normal.
36:54
This is your body adjusting to the lower CO2 and the higher
36:58
oxygen limb. It's very safe.
37:01
No stop at the top or bottom. Keep breathing, concentrate on
37:14
your breath. If your mind gets busy, you may
37:17
feel a little lightheaded. This is physical in the
37:18
beginning this is you said oh this is going to be good yes
37:23
breathe, breathe Adam good we breathe through the mouth and
37:30
out through the mouth why it's a bigger hole.
37:32
You get more oxygen, little bit deeper breath good, inhale and
37:38
exhale good. Letting go of that which.
37:41
Does not serve you. You are safe and breathe your
37:46
mind. Your mouth might get a little
37:48
dry, that's OK. It'll adjust.
37:53
Kind of like a fountain. You don't have to push it out,
37:55
just let it fall naturally and breathe, setting the tone
38:16
for the rest of your day. You don't have to know what
38:20
you're releasing. Good, letting it go just a
38:27
little bit longer now. Good.
38:44
This is just a little sampling. Now take a breath and hold it as
38:46
long as you can, normalizing but also letting the mind, the body,
38:57
the heart and the soul know I am listening.
39:02
We can quiet down. I am safe.
39:12
And as you release, imagine a beautiful energy, almost as
39:16
though you're in the beautiful sun, quieting, cascading from
39:22
the top of your head down to your feet.
39:27
And in this space, let it soak in, quieting your mind,
39:32
releasing what doesn't serve you.
39:35
Let it move out, your fingers opening up like a faucet.
39:38
Let this energy flow out your fingers, letting go of any
39:41
patterns, beliefs, behaviors that no longer serve you, any
39:45
blocks that you may or may not be aware of.
39:49
Let it flow through and out, releasing and letting go,
39:55
knowing every day that you are good and good enough.
39:59
As you are learning and growing important and valuable.
40:04
I'll count from 1:00 to 5:00 to bring you out.
40:07
One, coming back. When you open your eyes at 5,
40:09
you'll know something is beginning to change within you.
40:12
2 Clear headed, feeling more energy, more aligned. 3 Rested
40:18
and refreshed. You can remember this entire
40:20
thing. Go back to it whenever you
40:21
choose for that beautiful energy continue move through your whole
40:25
body and mind. Five Eyes open right back here.
40:28
Regular waking consciousness. Am I right?
40:33
I can't take to your, I can't talk to your audience, but I how
40:36
did that feel for you? Adam yeah, it felt, It felt
40:38
great. And yeah, I think, yeah, just
40:43
just getting into that rhythm, it kind of it felt.
40:46
And now when I open my eyes, like, I feel way more alert than
40:48
I did. Yeah, even just, you know, 10
40:51
minutes ago. So yeah.
40:53
I'm in between clients because I have busy days, right?
40:57
I move one thing to the next. I will stop and do even a couple
40:59
minutes of this breath. And it does, it quiets
41:02
everything down, but also gives access to these parts of my
41:06
brain that when we're busy, busy, busy and we're just in
41:09
survival, that you that aren't, that aren't fully lit up, so to
41:13
speak. So when you can do just a few
41:15
breaths, it's very, very important.
41:17
But everybody relax your jaw. How'd that feel?
41:18
The relaxation? Yeah, really good, Yeah.
41:22
Yeah, it's amazing. So imagine doing an hour of
41:24
this. It is, it is trippy.
41:27
At about 40 minutes, you're really opened up.
41:31
You're vibrating in this, in this breath.
41:33
But also what's happening you're you're priming the spinal fluid
41:37
up your spinal column and it hits a pineal gland.
41:40
And now you have all these endorphins, all this dopamine
41:44
running through your brain and now you are just people often
41:47
see colors. They have deep, deep insights.
41:50
They, I don't know, speak to dead grandma.
41:54
It's just what anything can happen when you're in this
41:56
state. And I, I am for it.
41:58
I love it. But more importantly, not one
42:02
client that I've done thousands of clients have not have said, I
42:06
feel so much lighter and we don't understand the heaviness
42:10
of what we carry from our past. So why not just begin to let it
42:13
go? Very.
42:15
Fair. I noticed your Apple Watch
42:17
there. What, what impact does this kind
42:18
of breathing have on on heart rate and things like that?
42:21
It's interesting. It will it will elevate in the
42:24
beginning. I have an aura ring too, so I
42:26
keep track. So it's been really.
42:27
Me too, yeah. It it elevates, it will see a
42:30
slight stress taste and then it will drop into a really relaxed
42:35
kind of re engaging state. It's pretty interesting.
42:38
But in the beginning, because the 1st 10 minutes and your
42:41
listeners might have experienced there's some resistance.
42:44
We're just not used to breathing this way, right?
42:46
So there's some resistance also it's the subconscious minds
42:50
alarm bells have gone off because it's Oh no, Oh no, she's
42:53
in the building, she's listening.
42:55
You know, the boss is here and, and everything starts amping up
42:59
and we get a little nervous. So that's built in.
43:01
So when I do my education for my clients, and by the way, I'd
43:04
love to offer you a a session with me if you'd like to
43:08
experience a whole hour of breath work I'd love to do.
43:10
That I'll take you up on that, yeah.
43:12
We Yeah, yeah. Record it if you want, and we we
43:14
should. Oh, that would be fantastic.
43:16
Yeah, let's. Do that.
43:16
Does the aura ring interpret it as sleep when you do this kind
43:20
of breath work or it treats it as a waking state?
43:23
No, it's too activated because you do have some internal
43:25
vibration that's going on, right?
43:28
Your body is rested. But people always ask if I have
43:31
vibrate on my on my hip note chair and I'm like, no, I do not
43:35
I and they see orbs. These all kinds of incredible
43:38
things come in when people that they unexpected, windy, quiet
43:43
everything down, but the heart rate will go down.
43:46
But it's not sleep. People get very relaxed.
43:48
I actually sometimes use the first 5 minutes of this breath
43:52
to do induction with a regular hypnosis thing.
43:55
I will start doing the breath to kind of bypass some of this
43:59
stuff for people have a hard time dropping into trance.
44:01
I will use this as an induction. Very cool and if anyone's
44:05
curious to learn more about you or experience one of these kind
44:10
of hour long sessions, where can they go For more information?
44:13
So it's Rene, Rene Brent BREN as in Nancy T, as in Tom hypnosis.
44:18
I never thought I'd have to have to spell my name, but people
44:20
don't hear the word Brent. So I always spell my name and
44:24
you can go to my website or you can contact me at
44:27
rene.brent.hypnosis@icloud.com. I'm happy to chat with anybody.
44:31
They can set up a call, set up a 30 minute Zoom session if you
44:35
want to learn more, all of that kind of stuff.
44:37
But I truly love what I do and I'm I'm here.
44:40
I am passionate about breath work in my practice, in my own
44:44
personal life and then training other people to do it.
44:46
The world needs breath work. They absolutely do and what
44:51
we'll make sure is that in the show notes, we've got a link to
44:54
your website. So if anyone's curious to learn
44:56
more about Renee, they can they can look there in the
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description, check out Renee, have a chat with her, learn
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more. And when we actually do our
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session, I'll share that as well.
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And we'll we'll have you learn here as well so you can.
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If if somebody's a practitioner, a practitioner, excuse me, talk
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over you and they want to learn more, I will also send you a
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link so they can get a like a workbook that I give out when I,
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when I do a lecture, like a 50 minute lecture.
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And that way they can get understand the structure and I'm
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beginning learning more about it.
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But I'm always, always happy to talk about it for.
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Sure. Amazing.
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Thank you for this today, Adam. More than welcome.
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It's it's great to have you on here and and it feels like,
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yeah, a big kind of circle circle of life because you were
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one of the very first people I met in in hip and I thoughts in
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Vegas. So great to see how well you're
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doing and and and how well you're helping people, you know,
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kind of practitioners as well as kind of clients is is wonderful
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to see. So, Renee, thank you so much for
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joining me on the show today. Thank you.
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Thank you for what you do, Adam. Thank you so much for joining me
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on today's episode of The Hypnotist.
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