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White House not willing to make meaningful reforms to ICE · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: Democrats held firm in our opposition that Donald Trump's rogue
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  Speaker 1: and deadly militia should not get more funding without serious reforms,
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  Speaker 1: and we will continue to fight for those reforms. Senate
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  Speaker 1: Democrats stood united, no wavering, no backing down. We held
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  Speaker 1: the line.
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  Speaker 2: Senate Minority to Chuck Schumer celebrating prematurely. The House later
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  Speaker 2: blocked the bill that was passed unanimously by the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm joined now by Senator Chris Van Holland, Democrat
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  Speaker 2: of Maryland. Thank you for being here. Senator, good to
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  Speaker 2: be with you. So, I mean, what's the bottom line here?
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  Speaker 2: You guys are on recess for two weeks, Homeland security
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  Speaker 2: is not funded.
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  Speaker 3: Where where Where's this going?
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  Speaker 4: So the bottom line, as you just discussed with Steve Scalise,
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  Speaker 4: is that you had a bipartisan bill Republicans and Democrats
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  Speaker 4: past the Senate that would immediately fully fund TSA and
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  Speaker 4: by the way, FEMA and the Coastguard while we continue
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  Speaker 4: to negotiate reforms to ICE a lawless ICE operation. And
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  Speaker 4: the Republican Speaker of the House refused to even have
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  Speaker 4: a vote on that in the House and went home.
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  Speaker 4: As we have these big lines at airports. Now, President
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  Speaker 4: Trump has said he has the emergency authority to spend
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  Speaker 4: money for TSA, And the question I have is why
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  Speaker 4: didn't you use that forty five days ago?
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  Speaker 5: And is he going to now use it?
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  Speaker 2: So when the Senate passed that bill, and there was
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  Speaker 2: that brief moment that looked like, you know, dawn had broken,
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  Speaker 2: you put out a statement saying that Republicans had quote
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  Speaker 2: finally relented.
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  Speaker 3: What did Democrats get out of this? Even if that passed?
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  Speaker 3: What did you get out of this?
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  Speaker 2: This DHS shutdown's going on for well over a month.
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  Speaker 3: What have you gotten for it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, the issue here, John, is we let people know
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  Speaker 4: number one, that we want to fully fund TSA. We
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  Speaker 4: could get rid of these lines at the airports immediately,
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  Speaker 4: but we also made clear that we're going to demand reforms.
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  Speaker 5: Of a lawless ice operation.
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  Speaker 4: After all, agents killed two American citizens in Minneapolis, and
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  Speaker 4: the President's team called the victims domestic terrorists. So, for example,
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  Speaker 4: we've said you can't expect DHS to conduct a credible,
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  Speaker 4: independent investigation.
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  Speaker 5: They're denying information.
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  Speaker 4: To the local law enforcement authorities Minneapolis and Minnesota, they've
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  Speaker 4: blocked access those state has had to sue.
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  Speaker 5: So we say you need to be.
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  Speaker 4: Able to hold people accountable for wrongdoing, and they say
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  Speaker 4: they don't want to do that. By the way, I
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  Speaker 4: should point out that obviously ICE has more than enough money.
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  Speaker 4: After all, the President is now deploying ICE agents to airports.
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  Speaker 4: We should have TSA agents at airports.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess what's confusing here is you
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  Speaker 2: have fought and blocked the funding for the Department of Homeland.
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  Speaker 3: Security because you object, as you.
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  Speaker 2: Just outlined, to what ICE has been doing, and you
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  Speaker 2: wanted to force changes.
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  Speaker 5: And yet the only.
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  Speaker 2: Thing that has been assured throughout all of this is
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  Speaker 2: that ICE already has the money because, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: seventy five billion dollars passed in the budget bill last year.
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  Speaker 2: So you're holding up the entirety of the Department of
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  Speaker 2: Homeland Security because you object to ICE and you want
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  Speaker 2: changes to ICE.
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  Speaker 3: But through it all, ICE continues to have the money.
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  Speaker 4: John, We're not holding up all of the money for
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  Speaker 4: all the Department of Homeland Security.
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  Speaker 5: That's just a false statement.
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  Speaker 4: We have said repeatedly, well, I mean repeatedly, we should
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  Speaker 4: fund TSA, we should fund FEMA, we should fund the Coastguard,
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  Speaker 4: We are not prepared to give ICE another ten billion
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  Speaker 4: dollars on top of the money they already have and
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  Speaker 4: are using in many of these lawless operations. We're not
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  Speaker 4: going to give them another ten billion dollars unless they
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  Speaker 4: make fun.
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  Speaker 5: Holding up killing of American citizens.
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  Speaker 2: And fighting over that additional ten billion dollars. You are,
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  Speaker 2: You're holding up the rest of department.
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  Speaker 5: We're not holding it up. I mean you're saying, John,
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  Speaker 5: we're not holding it up. We have now voted ten times,
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  Speaker 5: but you're.
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  Speaker 2: Holding up unless it doesn't include money for ICE. That's
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  Speaker 2: just the fact.
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  Speaker 4: Unless it doesn't include money for ICE, a very reformed ICE.
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  Speaker 3: That's which which has the money.
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  Speaker 5: Why not?
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  Speaker 4: Why not FUNSA, Now that's what you've said.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's what the House black.
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  Speaker 3: That's a very very good question.
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  Speaker 5: And you heard me. That is the question.
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  Speaker 2: But but let me ask you, the White House did
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  Speaker 2: agree to some reforms. As you were negotiating all of this.
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  Speaker 2: You had, uh, you know, a letter that was given
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  Speaker 2: to the GOP negotiators from the White House saying they
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  Speaker 2: would agree to increasing body cam footage, uh to retaining
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  Speaker 2: that body came cam footage, sharing it with with Congress,
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  Speaker 2: to immigration enforcement, it's sensitive locations like schools and hospitals.
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  Speaker 2: It agreed to require officers to clearly display their identification
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  Speaker 2: and verbalize their affiliation. Now that's all gone. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that was something that I mean, what's happened due to that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that was at least something you were getting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, but it's gone.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, John, they were not
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  Speaker 4: willing to make meaningful reforms in my view. So for example,
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  Speaker 4: what I was just talking about holding lawless DHS agents
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  Speaker 4: accountable for the killing of American citizens.
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  Speaker 5: We want some independent, credible review.
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  Speaker 4: We don't think you can trust the agency that called
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  Speaker 4: Renee Good and Alex pretty domestic terrorists to conduct a credible,
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  Speaker 4: independent investigation. I mean, do you think that would be credible?
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  Speaker 4: They refuse to do that. In fact, as I said,
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  Speaker 4: this state of Minnesota is now trying to do the
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  Speaker 4: FBI and the federal government to get basic information about
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  Speaker 4: the killings of American citizens.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's incredible.
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  Speaker 4: But let me but what's incredible, though, is that they
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  Speaker 4: refuse to allow that independent, credible investigation.
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  Speaker 5: That's what's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to give them another ten billion dollars
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  Speaker 4: when you've got two American citizens killed by these agents
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  Speaker 4: and they're calling their domestic terrorists and to this day
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  Speaker 4: refusing to apologize to.
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  Speaker 2: The families, and they already have seventy five billion in
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  Speaker 2: the pipeline.
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  Speaker 5: So let me.
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  Speaker 4: But so the question then is why are they why
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  Speaker 4: are they so determined to shut down TSA when in
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  Speaker 4: fact you're right, I mean, ICE does have money right now,
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  Speaker 4: we just don't want to give them any more.
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  Speaker 3: So the President said he's going.
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  Speaker 2: To He's ordered DHS to pay the ICE officers, even
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  Speaker 2: the money hasn't been appropriated.
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  Speaker 5: Here, first of all, is he able to do that?
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  Speaker 5: And for how long?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do you have a sense of the legality
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  Speaker 2: of that?
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  Speaker 4: I don't completely, But they do have, as we've been discussing,
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  Speaker 4: they do have, like bottom mind, billions of dollars that
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  Speaker 4: Republicans provided them in what they called the Big Beautiful
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  Speaker 4: Bill where they gave billionaires to these huge tax brakes,
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  Speaker 4: cut Medicaid, but.
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  Speaker 5: They managed to fund ICE.
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  Speaker 4: And so if the president does have that authority, what's
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  Speaker 4: he waiting for?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So, in the time we have left on the war,
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  Speaker 2: they are preparing a budget request Pentagon has suggested two
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  Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars. We don't know what it's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that that, I know you're a posed,
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  Speaker 2: Does that pass well?
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  Speaker 4: I hope not, because I don't think we should be
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  Speaker 4: providing more money for an illegal war of choice to
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  Speaker 4: a president who promised during the campaign that he would
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  Speaker 4: not drag America into new wars, especially in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 4: and a war that is now making us less, not
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  Speaker 4: more safe, and has already cost American lives, is costing
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  Speaker 4: billions of dollars every day. Oil and gas prices are
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  Speaker 4: going up. So the president who said he was going
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  Speaker 4: to focus on bringing down prices and ending foreign wars
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  Speaker 4: has started foreign wars along with Prime Minister in.
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  Speaker 5: At Yahoo and prices are going through the roof.
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  Speaker 4: So no, we should not keep funding an illegal war
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  Speaker 4: of choice that's making this less safe.
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  Speaker 2: And yet do you have a depletion of weapons of ammunition,
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  Speaker 2: of missiles and missile defense systems. I mean, doesn't that
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  Speaker 2: need to be replenished whether or not you support the war.
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  Speaker 4: What happens there, these are moneies they're asking for to
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  Speaker 4: continue an illegal war choice. And you know, President Trump,
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  Speaker 4: I saw you quoting some of his earlier statements.
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  Speaker 5: You know, back more than two weeks ago, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 5: said we won this war.
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  Speaker 4: And so the question for President Trump, who was completely delusional,
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  Speaker 4: is if we won the war, why are they preparing
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  Speaker 4: to send thousands of more American troops of.
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  Speaker 2: The harms way in last question, have you been you've
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  Speaker 2: been to these briefings you I have been to these briefings,
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  Speaker 2: and you heard of what scale.
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  Speaker 3: Claims that they're substantive.
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  Speaker 2: We've heard from other Republicans that are complaining they're not
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  Speaker 2: getting information.
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  Speaker 4: What you learned in these briefings is exactly what you're
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  Speaker 4: hearing outside the briefings, which is they don't have any
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  Speaker 4: particular objective. It's a constantly changing objective and there's no
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  Speaker 4: endgame whatsoever.
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  Speaker 5: Meanwhile, the war is widening, as.
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  Speaker 4: You discussed, and Americans are less safe, and we're spending
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  Speaker 4: billions of dollars both in terms of taxpayer money and
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  Speaker 4: at the pump.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Senator Van Holland, thank you very much for
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  Speaker 3: joining us. Thanks John,