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Ep. 752: The American Chestnut and Fishing Infomercials | MeatEater Radio Live! · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time,
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  Speaker 1: that's one pm for our friends in Howard, Pennsylvania on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: August twenty first, and we're live from Mediater HQ and Boseman.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Seth and Brody.
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  Speaker 1: On today's show, we'll interview Jared Westbrook from the American
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  Speaker 1: Chestnut Foundation. Then we'll be reviewing some gear that's currently
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  Speaker 1: on sale, followed by the Price is Right, and finally
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  Speaker 1: we'll be joined by Pat Dirkin in Minnesota for one
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  Speaker 1: minute fishing. But first, Seth and Brody give me an
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  Speaker 1: Alaska recap. Very jealous.
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  Speaker 2: It was good.
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  Speaker 3: It always is, I would say, in the seven years
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  Speaker 3: I've been going there with my family. This was the
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  Speaker 3: worst year weather wise and rough seas wise. It two
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  Speaker 3: or at least two maybe three days. We couldn't even
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  Speaker 3: get out to like the good halibut spots yep. So
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  Speaker 3: you know that's part of it. You know you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have weather. But we still scratched out plenty of fish
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  Speaker 3: and everybody had fun.
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  Speaker 1: Not the worst fishing in your seven years of going
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  Speaker 1: there though, No, when we could.
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  Speaker 3: Get out it was good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some things were not so good this year, like salmon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Normally we put up a lot of silvers,
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  Speaker 3: but the silver run either hadn't started or it was
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  Speaker 3: just a really weak run this year.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about this picture we're.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at that is a silver gray rock fish, and
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  Speaker 3: one normally when we get them there like yeah big,
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  Speaker 3: maybe sixteen inches is a decent one. And I we
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  Speaker 3: dropped down on a rocky spire for ling cod, and
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  Speaker 3: that thing came up and we thought, like when it
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  Speaker 3: was coming up from one hundred feet down, we thought
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  Speaker 3: it was a big link cod. And it turns out
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  Speaker 3: it was a giant silver gray. I didn't weigh it.
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  Speaker 3: The world record is sixteen pounds, and that thing is
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It felt like picking up a jake
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  Speaker 3: turkey like so, I don't know thirteen Oh yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: was scaling. The boat was like this. It was giant.
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  Speaker 2: It was a big fit. It was the biggest one
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: Would le keep We kept it? Oh yeah, it's in
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  Speaker 3: the freezer.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So, like, are the gut still in it?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, it's it's delayed.
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  Speaker 1: But now I'm so curious about to wait, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but you know nothing.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that was like probably my fish and highlight
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  Speaker 3: other than putting the kids on a bunch of fish.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, when you were reeling that in, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think it was?
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  Speaker 2: Dude?
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  Speaker 3: It was like I thought it was a big link
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  Speaker 3: cod because normally it was rockfish. They'll give a few
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  Speaker 3: headshakes and then they come up pretty easily, and that
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  Speaker 3: thing was just dig in and it pulled line a
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  Speaker 3: couple of times, pulled drag a couple of times, and
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  Speaker 3: you can see color coming up from a long ways
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  Speaker 3: down and I was like, yep, it's a big link cod.
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  Speaker 3: And Andy See's buddy was in the boat from me,
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  Speaker 3: He's like, I knew it hit as soon as it like,
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  Speaker 3: I digged that hit bottom, jigged at once and it
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  Speaker 3: was on. But then I was like, holy shit, that's
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  Speaker 3: a giant silver gray. So that was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Is the world record also Alaska's state record? Did it
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  Speaker 1: come from?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't look at that. It came from Alaska, though,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm assuming it's also the state record.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Some other highlights are my wife, I was not in
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  Speaker 3: the boat thankfully when this happened. But my wife got
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  Speaker 3: a seventy eighty pounder halibit up to up to the
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  Speaker 3: surface and like as she's fighting it. She was in
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  Speaker 3: Andy's boat and and Steve kind of rushed into the
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  Speaker 3: scene and took over and jumped.
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  Speaker 2: In the boat. That's when everything went to ship ill.
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  Speaker 3: I heard as it went to total chaos when Steve
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  Speaker 3: shut up anyway, got wrapped around the anchor line and
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to they're hand lining it in like it
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  Speaker 3: was all looking like it might happen. But Steve said
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  Speaker 3: that the halbit dodged the harpoon and and the fish
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  Speaker 3: got off.
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  Speaker 2: I was I was in a different boat about I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, one hundred yards away when this was all
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  Speaker 2: going out watching it. I could tell that that his
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  Speaker 2: wife Carrie was onto something big. So I got my
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  Speaker 2: binoculars out. I was watching it all happen through my binoculars.
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  Speaker 2: Finders yep, that's right, and Steve. I see Steve coming.
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  Speaker 2: He he's like, what's going on? You catch anything? I said,
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  Speaker 2: they're they're into something big over there. So he of
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  Speaker 2: course goes over there as quick as he can. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching my binoculars, and I see him get the harpoon,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, and I could tell like carry has
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  Speaker 2: something big on.
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  Speaker 1: Steve gets on the boat.
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  Speaker 2: Steve gets on their boat, grabs the harpoon, and I
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  Speaker 2: see him like throw the harpoon and then like he
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  Speaker 2: picks the harpoon up, throws it at the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: the boat and then crosses his arm.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, that ain't good, no, no, but enough picking
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  Speaker 3: on Steve. It was, it was. It was a good trip.
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  Speaker 3: And that kind of thing happens with big halibit. But
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, like, if you want to catch
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  Speaker 3: a big halbit, you end up in a fish shack
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  Speaker 3: and you want to get a big one, this is
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  Speaker 3: the guy to go with. Because he was putting all
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  Speaker 3: kinds of people on big hell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got some good ones this year.
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  Speaker 1: What have that been the big one of the trip?
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  Speaker 1: That fish?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: They were all like when they get away, they are
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  Speaker 1: the biggest.
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  Speaker 2: Steve's boy Jimmy was in my boat and he got
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  Speaker 2: an eighty pounder, and then his daughter was in the
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  Speaker 2: boat the day before she got a sixty. I had
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  Speaker 2: what I believed to be between a seventy to eighty
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  Speaker 2: to the boat, and there was a little mishap with
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  Speaker 2: the harpoon again with my wife run in the harpoon Kelsey,
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  Speaker 2: and then my dad had one on that we never
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  Speaker 2: saw it, but it drug us around for quite a
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  Speaker 2: while and then it got off.
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  Speaker 1: Give me a cabin update.
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  Speaker 3: Cabin's looking good.
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  Speaker 2: We got on this trip. We we wired the place
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  Speaker 2: and got a roof on the back porch.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, no, it looks great man.
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  Speaker 2: Better than ever, better than.
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  Speaker 1: Ever, like even better than prior to the Christmas tree
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  Speaker 1: coming to.
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  Speaker 3: It looks brand new from the outside.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Thanks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still a lot to do.
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  Speaker 1: But how many hours do you think you spent on
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  Speaker 1: this trip? You were there for what a week?
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  Speaker 2: Two weeks?
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks? How many hours in that two weeks when
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  Speaker 1: you hammer it away on the cabin?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. A few good days, like all
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  Speaker 2: day for the most part, working on it to eight
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  Speaker 2: hour shifts more probably more once it's all some I
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  Speaker 2: mean some days when we'd fish the morning and I
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  Speaker 2: just work on the It's like I wasn't just working
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  Speaker 2: on one project the whole time. There's like kind of
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of things going on and then just like
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  Speaker 2: little stuff cleaning up, you know, stuff around the cabin
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  Speaker 2: or fixing little things, and you know it's just it's
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  Speaker 2: just I could honestly go up there and work on
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  Speaker 2: it for two weeks straight and not fish at all.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but Phil, do we got uh do?
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  Speaker 3: We got Steve's dispatch an octopus video watch till the end.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 1: We just watched Steve Biden to the would you say
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  Speaker 1: that's the head?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: The brain? Okay, yeah, chomping down on the brain. I
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  Speaker 3: think I learned that from Kimmy Werner. I think something
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  Speaker 3: is that how every octopus dies up there that you
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  Speaker 3: guys keep.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about up there, but in Hawaii for sure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: usually they turn they like immediately go a different color.
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting for that thing to just go totally limp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he didn't get it.
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  Speaker 3: Great those things come up in the shrimp pots though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get in there and eat all your shrimp
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  Speaker 2: out of your pot.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, done with Alaska, then for the year, you won't
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  Speaker 1: return till the spring.
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  Speaker 2: Not till spring. Yeah. Unfortunately, unless I can squeeze in
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  Speaker 2: a trip, I don't think that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: What's gonna be the big project next year.
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  Speaker 2: Outdoor shower. They got a couple of pilings we got
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  Speaker 2: to replace yet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, is that outdoor shower going to be a game changer?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just gets all the moisture and humidity from a
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  Speaker 2: shower out of the cabin. The main thing up there
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  Speaker 2: is moisture management. Yeah, I've come to find over the years,
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  Speaker 2: because if you leave the place, when you button it
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  Speaker 2: up for the year with moisture in there, you come
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  Speaker 2: back with quite a bit of mold.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear you saying that, like snow
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't stick.
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  Speaker 2: I mean from what I hear. I've never been up
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  Speaker 2: there during the winter, but from what I hear, they'll
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  Speaker 2: get like big dumps of snow and then it just
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  Speaker 2: like melts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Next, like that maritime climate, you know, like the Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 2: It's just yeah, snow's one day. Rains the next type
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  Speaker 2: of thing.
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  Speaker 1: And you said thirteen feet of precipitation annually.
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  Speaker 3: We got thirteen feet while there.
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  Speaker 2: It rained a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Ye still brought home some good fish and a potential
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  Speaker 1: world record.
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  Speaker 3: No, well I don't think it was a world record.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you didn't weigh it, so no, never know. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's get on with the show. Joining us on the
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  Speaker 1: line first is Jared Westbrook, the director of Science from
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  Speaker 1: the American Chestnut Foundation. He's here to talk about restoring
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  Speaker 1: this once plentiful tree. Jared, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Hello everyone.
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  Speaker 1: First thing, Jared, take us back in time and tell
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  Speaker 1: us about when things were good for the American chestnut.
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  Speaker 5: Well, chestnuts and their relatives have been around in North
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  Speaker 5: America for forty million years and where you all are
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  Speaker 5: in Montana, they used to live out there in Idaho
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  Speaker 5: and Colorado. Chestnut fossils have been found in Tennessee, some
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  Speaker 5: of the oldest ones. And they used to like as
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  Speaker 5: the ice age came down, like in thirteen thousand years ago,
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  Speaker 5: they went all the way down into Florida, and then
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  Speaker 5: slowly over the last two thousand years they moved up
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  Speaker 5: into like New England.
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  Speaker 2: And people use them.
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  Speaker 5: Native Americans like would burn the forest create openings. The
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  Speaker 5: chestnuts would be plentiful source of food. And then when
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  Speaker 5: European sellers came over here, we you know, collected nuts
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  Speaker 5: by the trainload and ship them up to the cities.
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  Speaker 5: New York City Baltimore. People sold them on the street corners.
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  Speaker 5: They made more money off of chestnuts and they did
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  Speaker 5: off of farming, So it was a source of livelihood
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  Speaker 5: for people. And before and after, I mean during that time,
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  Speaker 5: people brought over Chinese chestnuts and we can talk about
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  Speaker 5: the blight next.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, today the USDA refers to the American chestnut as
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  Speaker 1: a quote near mythical species. So what happened?
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  Speaker 5: So the chestnuts used to be in you know, North
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  Speaker 5: Carolina where I live, in the Smoky Mountains, like you could,
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  Speaker 5: there's like reports of people being able to walk their
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  Speaker 5: cows into the inside of the trees and walk around
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  Speaker 5: like they're that big. So they're huge, you know, old
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  Speaker 5: growth stands of these in the Smoky Mountains and then
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  Speaker 5: up into the throughout the Appalachians. And in nineteen oh four,
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  Speaker 5: actually earlier people were brought over like Japanese chestnuts and
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  Speaker 5: Chinese chestnuts because they were bred for having large nuts
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  Speaker 5: to eat, and they brought them over and they did
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  Speaker 5: not know that a fungus was on those trees. And
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  Speaker 5: this fungus attacks the bark of the tree and then
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  Speaker 5: they die from the top of the tree dies, but
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  Speaker 5: they still live.
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  Speaker 2: From their roots.
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  Speaker 5: But right now, there was like four billion trees on
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  Speaker 5: the East coast. Now there's probably a few hundred million
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  Speaker 5: that are left, but they're sitting in the understory of
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  Speaker 5: the forest. Like if you're walking around the woods in
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  Speaker 5: the Appalachian Mountains, you might see them. They have the blight,
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  Speaker 5: but they don't really flower and reproduce, so they're no
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  Speaker 5: longer evolving on their own living as a tree as
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  Speaker 5: they once were.
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  Speaker 1: Now i've seen your organization refer to them as functionally extinct.
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  Speaker 5: Why that label, because they're not actually extinct, like in
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  Speaker 5: the sense that there's no chestnuts out in the landscape.
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  Speaker 5: They're actually kind of plentiful, especially around here in Carolina
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  Speaker 5: and Western Carolina. But they don't reproduce. They'll grow up
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  Speaker 5: like ten feet and then they get the blight and
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  Speaker 5: they die, and they're in this cycle of dying back
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  Speaker 5: and then re sprouting from their roots over and over again.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, they're not really reproducing on their own. But
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  Speaker 5: we can occasionally get on the side of the road
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  Speaker 5: sometimes we'll find one. Some people will tell us like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: there's a chestnut flowering, and we can get seeds from
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  Speaker 5: those and breed those trees, but then they die from blight,
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  Speaker 5: so it's not like a permanent solution that they're reproducing
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  Speaker 5: on their own.
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  Speaker 1: Some estimates say they are fewer than one hundred mature
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  Speaker 1: American chestnuts left in the wild. What can you tell
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  Speaker 1: us about where those mature trees live and how they've
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  Speaker 1: been able to survive the blight.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we call them large surviving American chestnuts, and they're
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  Speaker 5: extremely rare. Like I was saying, like there's hundreds of
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  Speaker 5: millions left, but like there's a I know of a
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  Speaker 5: few dozen. We have names for them, like ort There's
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  Speaker 5: one tree in Pennsylvania, it's in someone's yard. It's called Ortz.
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  Speaker 5: We have another tree in Virginia, Amherst Tree Erie, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 5: So we know these trees and they have the blight,
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  Speaker 5: and they've been living with the blight probably since before
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  Speaker 5: I mean when the original pandemic of the blake came through,
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  Speaker 5: and they seem to have a slightly elevated resistance when
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  Speaker 5: we've actually crossed those trees, like bred them together and
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  Speaker 5: then we gave their kids the blight, and the kids
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  Speaker 5: have somewhat elevated resistance, but they're not super resistant themselves.
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  Speaker 5: So they're kind of lucky trees, you could say, and
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  Speaker 5: they have low levels of blight resistance.
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  Speaker 1: You guys do a lot of citizen science and you
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  Speaker 1: ask people to fill out a tree locator form if
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  Speaker 1: they think they've spotted an American chestnut. What are some
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  Speaker 1: of the strangest places you've had confirmed trees?
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  Speaker 5: Well, some of the trees, you know, what's interesting is
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  Speaker 5: like people brought Lewis and Clark, like the Loos and
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  Speaker 5: Clark expedition brought chestnuts, or people brought them over the
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  Speaker 5: Washington state, So like on the coast range in Washington,
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  Speaker 5: there are chestnuts growing that don't have blight. So in
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  Speaker 5: California and Washington, these are areas where strangely the blight
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  Speaker 5: hasn't come and these trees are mature. There's another tree
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  Speaker 5: in Belgium that was brought over before the blight that's
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  Speaker 5: maybe the largest tree in the world. It's like one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and twenty feet tall, and so you can actually see,
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  Speaker 5: you know, these trees that you can actually see how
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  Speaker 5: the tree grows now are really rare, but the West
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  Speaker 5: Coast has some and Europe in our reedom has one.
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  Speaker 2: So if you.
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  Speaker 5: Ever get out to to reove him our freedom in Belgium.
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  Speaker 5: That's one place you could see in American.
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  Speaker 2: Chestnut, Jared, has there been any movement with crossing American
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  Speaker 2: chestnuts with other chestnuts that are like resistant to the blight?
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  Speaker 2: When I was in college, we did a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of that, planting trees that were like American chestnut mixed
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  Speaker 2: with something else, like a Chinese chestnut. I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: exactly what it was, but just trying to find something
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  Speaker 2: that could live on the landscape and be resistant to
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  Speaker 2: the blight.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's that been the focus of our organization
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  Speaker 5: is the Chinese chestnuts, Japanese chestnuts. They they co evolved
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  Speaker 5: with the blight fungus for tens of millions of years.
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  Speaker 5: They have resistance and there's been a long effort starting
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  Speaker 5: in the nineteen twenties to breed cross breed the American
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  Speaker 5: species with the Chinese and the Japanese. And what we've
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  Speaker 5: done is you get the fifty to fifty hybrids between
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  Speaker 5: the two species and they tend to they have resistance
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  Speaker 5: from the Asian chestnut species and they are fertile. So
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  Speaker 5: we do they all the chestnut species hybridize readily, but
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  Speaker 5: in order to make them grow and be competitive in
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  Speaker 5: the forest. The American chestnuts grow very tall. The Chinese
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  Speaker 5: chestnuts tend to be shorter orchard trees. What we're trying
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  Speaker 5: to do is basically cross those hybrids back to American chestnut,
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  Speaker 5: dilute out some of the Chinese traits, bring in more
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  Speaker 5: of the American traits, but also select for resistance so
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  Speaker 5: that we can improve improve that over time. So what
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  Speaker 5: we're trying to do is kind of dilute out the
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  Speaker 5: make the trees keep the resistance, but then also breed
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  Speaker 5: for these tall timber type traits in the American chestnut.
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  Speaker 5: And we have this citizen science organization that where people
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  Speaker 5: have found trees, like from Maine all the way down
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  Speaker 5: to Mississippi. They tell us, we've found a tree, it's flowering,
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  Speaker 5: and we've taken pollen from our hybrid our selected hybrids
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  Speaker 5: and put it on those trees to get these diverse populations.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: And we have probably four to five.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Hundred orchards across the East Coast maintained by volunteers that
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: have been We plant the kids of these hybrids in
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: these orchards and we give them blight and we see
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: which trees survive from that, and we've continued now, I mean,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: we've done this huge effort of like looking at all
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: these trees resistance over like the last twenty years, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: we are now crossing these best trees that have really
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: good resistance with each other and selecting even better kids
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: of the trees. So we're incrementally improving the resistance so
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: the trees can live on their own.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Awesome, Hey, Jared, Beyond like physical cross breeding where you're
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: like putting pollen on another tree, has there been any
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: any like lab genetic engineering to to to work on
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: resistance to the to the blade.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there is a there is a what's called a
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: transgenic tree where it has a gene from wheat that's
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: put it been put into the American chestnut tree. The
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: gene is involved in it like detoxifies an acid that's
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: produced by the fungus and that has it's going under
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: a it's been under review by the USDA to be
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: able to release those trees, and we've done some assessments
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: on their resistance and they look they looked great initially
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: in the when we look at the seedlings stage and
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: we gave them a blight as little babies but when
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: you put them out in the like over time for
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: a longer period of time, they get pretty severe infections.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: And there's a lot of susceptible trees. So what we've
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: learned is that the resistance is complicated. There's a lot
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: of there's a lot of genes involved in that, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: so doing that cross breeding brings in a lot of
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: those genes involved in the resistance to give it more
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: durable resistance than any single gene could give the trees.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Jared, why does it matter? What does the American chestnut
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: provide that our eastern forests are missing without them there?
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would love to see chestnuts on the
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: mountains in North Carolina. They grow on top of the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: mountains with some of the most beautiful places in the Appalachians,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: and they used to provide nuts every year, and the
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: wildlife carrying capacity of the forests diminished as a result
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: of loss of the chestnut, And there are insects and
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: things that also were dependent on the tree, and we
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: would love to see like in this there's like strip
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: mind sits in throughout Appalachia where the chestnuts grow really
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: well on that really poor acidic soil. So I'd love
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: to see, you know, reclamation of some of the mind
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: lands with chestnuts going forward.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: For people who are listening right now, what can they
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: do to help the American chestnut.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Well, we are a citizen science organization and a nonprofit
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: organization and we have we're funded by members and so
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: people donate to us and that helps us. What we're
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: doing is a lot of genomic testing on our trees
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: to make the breeding go faster, growing out the best
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: kids and then giving them blight and seeing which you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: really confirming you have resistance. So if you live in
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: the East Coast, you can join your local chapter. We
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: have sixteen state chapters across the East Coast. But also
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: just donate to TACF to help us with some of
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: our work to do the cross breeding and genomics to
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: better understand resistance and make the breeding work a lot better.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Jared, and thanks for helping
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: save the American chestnut.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Thanks guys, Thanks Jared.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: By now, I saw you two boys nodding along when
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he said that there is a mature one living in Eerie, Pennsylvania.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: That's Brodie's next.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my old stomping ground. So I didn't know
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: that it's just just that's where it came from.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I know several that are living on the family farm,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: but they they're just stump sprouting from old stumps.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: There's babies.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they only get like he said, ten ten twelve
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: feet tall and then die.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Did you know that before today? That like, that's what
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that was and that's why it was doing it?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, yeah, I mean there's I don't I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: know how many there are exactly on the farm, but
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I mean you can it's nothing to walk for five
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: minutes in the woods and find a couple of them.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I think he said there's hundreds of millions that just
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: never reached maturity.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all over the place. But yeah, man, it's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: such a shame. Those trees were like I mean, I've
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: heard them called like the redwoods the East East. Yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: just huge trees that I couldn't imagine what it would
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: have been like back in the day to see that
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: mm hm.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Deers A lot of critters would have been eating them.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah, we have some Chinese chestnuts on
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the farm, and man, when those things start falling, the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: deer hammering them, they love them all right.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Moving on our next segment is Gear Talk.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: Let's talk about geara beat, Let's talk about the Beat.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: Let's talk about blues in cano patterns with Yon d.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Let's talk about Let's talk about gear. Let's talk.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: This week for gear Talk, we are talking about our
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: favorite First Light gear. Their season opener sales happening right
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: now over on first dot com. This is one of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: their biggest sales and just in time for hunting season.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: You can get up to forty percent off select bass layers,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: outer where pants, and more. The deals are happening now
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: through Sunday, August twenty fourth. Again, that's first slight dot
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Com for some of their biggest discounts of the year.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Seth, you go first. What are you talking
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to us about today?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to you about my favorite hunting pant
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: of all time, the Corget Foundry pan m Man. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: still have the original pair that I got when these
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: things first came out years ago, probably five six years ago,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: don't even remember. But I still use them every fall.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: They can't wear them out. I like them because they
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: have knee pads, which I like to have in a
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: hunting pant, especially when you're doing stuff like analoe punting
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and whatnot crawling around. It's nice tom kneepads. And they
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: got the waterproof knees and seat which is helpful.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And they are thirty percent off this week again. This
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: sale goes through Sunday. What hunts You're gonna be wearing
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: them on this year?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Pretty much everything I'm hunting, elk, deer, antelope. I'll probably
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: wear them when I go back East white tail hunting,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: depending on the weather. Yeah, I kind of wear them
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: for everything. I honestly just wear them when I'm in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the office. I wear them in the office. I wore
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: them for two weeks in Alaska recently.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Good endorsement.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wear them all the time. I like just
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: general fixing stuff around the house. Because you got knee pads,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: you're always you know, on your knees for something.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: So that is the corrugate foundry pant thirty percent off
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: for the next few days. All right, I'm gonna go next.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I am going to talk to you about the men's
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: kiln Long John that is twenty percent off during this sale.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: This is my favorite bass layer. It's my most used
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: bass layer. My guess would be that it's the most
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: used bass layer among the crew, and if I could
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: only have like a singular bass layer for the rest
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: of my life, it would be this, the Kiln Long John.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: They're easy to hike in. They also work great if
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you're still hunting. I wore them when I killed the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Bowl last year and it was fifty degrees on opening day.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I also wore them when I killed Amui on the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: last week of the season when it was negative eighteen
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: degrees wind chill. They're comfortable enough to sleep in if
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I'm tentting in cold weather. Wear then when I'm snowblowing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: my driveway. And the badass skiers in the office, like
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Corey Caulkins, he'll wear them for skiing. He especially likes
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the ones that have the zippers in them three hundred
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: eight to reviews on First Light's website four point eight
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: one stars. So they are just universally loved. Again. That's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the Kiln Long John sizes available small to two axl.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: They're also available in the women's version, the Kiln Long Jane,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and that is twenty percent off right now as well.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: It's a great piece.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I genuinely wear it all fall.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love wool next to skin.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I ran them from like October to eight.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, half the year.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's legit, all right, Brody, what are you talking
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: about today?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: The dirt Bag Duffel. Uh, I've been running these things
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: for I don't know, like these things have been out
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: for what four or five years now? At least I
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: have the original. I've uh a couple of the big ones,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a couple of the Meetium ones like and I have
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: had no trouble with any of them. Their their bomb proof,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: they're durable, they're great when you got to take stuff
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: into like a wet environment like Southeast Alaska or like
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the river trip that we're gonna do later this year.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: They're just they're just a really good duffle and they
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: got you know, extra features like pockets and things like that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You can carry it like a backpack through the airport
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: if you want. For a very long time, I was
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: a Patagonia black Hole supporter, and the dirt Bag Duffel
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: kind of took over. That's the large took over that
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: spot for me. You can fit a week's where the
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: stuff in there easily. And the big one.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's the thing that I travel with
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the most, so much so that I had to get
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a second one because my wife wanted to have one
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: as well. That's that's the medium I use for a
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: lot of traveling. They also what's the material on them?
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: It's TPU rip stop. But you know it's got that well,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: it's got like a coating on it, you know, a water.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna get it. It has the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: lid that I think they call the launch pad and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you open it up. If you're hunting and you're like
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: changing boots and you stand on that thing, it doesn't
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: matter if there's snow or water underneath it. Your feet
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: are not going to get wet. I love the dirt
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: bag Duffel and that is twenty percent off this week
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just had that thing in Southeast Alaska. Yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: when we're up there, and when we were leaving it
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: was pouring rain.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you gotta set your stuff out before the
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: float playing guests there.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had that thing sitting in the rain for
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a while and it was fine.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have small, medium, and large. I'll travel with
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: all my hunting clothes in there in the fall, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: then again if we're just like staying in a hotel, somewhere.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: It's a Duffel that my wife and I both use.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That is the season opener sale where one hundred and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: twenty first Light items are discounted this week. The deals
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: in on Sunday, August twenty fourth. Head over to first
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: light dot com to gear up before it's too late.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: All right, we're halfway through the show, Phil, Let's take
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a break for some listener feedback. What's the chat I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: have to say?
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, let's do I get those questions in? Cameron says.
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: Question for the crew, what are some tips to keep
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: meat from spoiling on warmer days and longer packouts. Cameron
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: says that he's doing his first elk hunt DIY style
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: in Kentucky.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I'll chime in, get the skin off, but I, like
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: you would be surprised how long skinned out out quarters
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: can last and more weather if you get the skin
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: off and hang them in a shady spot with some breeze, like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: it's not a problem. If it's seventy degrees out during
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the day. You can hang that meat longer than you
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: think you can. If you get that skin off and
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: hang it in a shady spot.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as it gets that crusted. Yeah, you'd
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: be surprised. I was surprised when we were in Africa.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: There's no refrigeration there. They hung that meat for days.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If you get like one cool night to get
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: the interior you know of the meat cooled, You're gonna
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: be fine for like a few days. It's just not
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: something I worry about a whole lot.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Airflow very important, and as we've talked about on previous
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: episodes of Trivia, if the conditions are too extreme, you
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: could get bone rot, especially around those joints are gonna
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: hold a lot of heat. Being a here in Kentucky,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that thing's not gonna be away from a
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: cooler for too long. So just get on as soon
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: as you can and.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Keep it dry. Like, if that stuff's hanging and it
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: gets wet, it's gonna go bad a lot faster.
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: Let's see Freddy Rick and the man says, I'm taking
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: my wife out antelope hunting tomorrow. What's the fun in
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: the field? Meal we should make? If successful?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Mmm? I love.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: If it was like season four of Meat Eater, Steve's
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: on a solo analo punt and he cooks up some
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: bucknuts in butter. It's it's real easy. All you need
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: is a source of heat, a skillet and some butter
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: and and that's a pretty authentic way to enjoy a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: successful anelope punt.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: You gotta go.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: If you do those, don't go high heat or they'll explode.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: You gotta take your time with them.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I like tenderloin fresh in the field, just because, especially
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: with an antelope, if you get that crossed on those things,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: like you end up just taking too much. Like just
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: eat those things.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Fresh, you know, want those to go in the freezer.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, just eat them fresh over fire or something,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and they're fantast.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: The heart would be good to cut that up right
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: away and eat that.
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: Drifting flies has been just absolutely stoked in the chat.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: This whole show just mostly all caps Trump style. But
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: he says Brody favorite streamer, He's gonna target some big
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: browns very soon.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: There's an old old I don't know if they still
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: make it. I bet you they do. It's called the Takili.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I wish we could pull up a picture of it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: It's got like a shiny like copper colored UHL body
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: and then like a bright like yellow marriboo tail and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: some big bright rubber legs on it, and like in
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the fall, it drives those big brown trout insane. It's
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: a good one.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Do you tie your own streamers back in the day?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I tied a lot of flies. I
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: still have all this stuff, you know, I just don't.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Waiting for your sons to get into it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you think I have so many flies that
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: don't now I don't need to tie any I don't know.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's a real good one. There's a bunch
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: of like I'm not like I kind of stopped fly
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: fishing as much. There's been like a new wave of
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: fly tying that's gone on, like especially in the streamer world,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: playing that to me just bigger, Like it's trended towards
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: bigger in the last several years. Like Kelly Gallup at
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: the slide In He's got these real big flies that
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: tend to have weird names like sex Dungeon and things
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: like that. And then Blaine Chocolates, God, what game changer.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Like a lot of people are throwing those and they
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: tend to tend to if you want to like specifically
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: target like a brown shout thirty inches and larger. You
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: need to be throwing a fly that's six inches long
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: or bigger, I would say, because otherwise you're just gonna
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: be catching a lot of sixteen.
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: Inches Mississippi, says Spencer, Birdie and Steth. What's your favorite
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: feature that you look for in a skinning knife or features?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Probably just how it feels in my hand. I know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like my favorite knife then I keep in my gun cabinet.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You could put a blindfold on me and hand me
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: all my knives and I would pick that one, I
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: think every single time, just because it feels right in
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: my hand. So as far as what you're looking for,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know specifics. When you're just looking at something,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: how's it feel in your hand. I'll tell you one thing.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I don't care for a gut hook on my nod.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: It just like gets in the way. And it seems
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: like those were very fashionable for a moment and they're
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: becoming less fashionable now. But I'm just like pretty much
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: immediately not interested if it has a big gut hook
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I would say something without an overly large blade. I
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: think you know when you're when you're dealing with stuff
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: laying on the ground, and getting skin off, like a
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: big long blade is just going to be detrimental. And
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I I like like with wise and narrower ones. I
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: know some people like that wider blade, but I like
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: something a little narrower, a little more nimble.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, something narrower.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: But those heavy duty like sturdy knives with like broader blades.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: When you get into like pop and hip joints and
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, that's where they come in handy. But yeah,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: it's something that's sharp and something that feels good, something
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: that holds an edge, Seth.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I like something with a little bit more of a
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: rounded tip, not so pointy on the tip. It also
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: depends on what I'm skinning, Like if I'm not worried
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: about putting holes in it, like a deer, usually you know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter that much. But if I'm skinning something
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: like a coyote or something that I want to tan
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and keep the high nice, I like a little boy
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: rounded tip so I don't punch holes in it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Let's see one morning for now.
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: Phil jure Ethan says, Seth. My buddy Sean just won
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: the Michigan Walleye Tour for the second straight year. When
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: you're at some filets down next weekend. Best way to
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: cook them? Thanks, man.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I just like fried walleye. It's hard to beat that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: At one time took a small, smaller walleye filets and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: like rolled them up lengthwise and you wrap those in bacon.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like a like a walleye pin wheel
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: tank and just bake those or put them on the grill,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you know, hit them with some butter and whatnot. That
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: was pretty good. Brody.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: You been eating a lot of walleye this summer.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's my like my wife like some
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: panco crusted, Yeah, like pan fried, not like deep fried,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and that's very good. Another thing their walleye is pretty delicate,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: but you can pull it off if you're careful. Is
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: you get them on a on a griddle, like an
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: outdoor griddle like a black stone or whatever, and just
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: do black and Cajun black and filets. Those are real good.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You go to the meat eater dot com. You'll find
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of good walleye recipes there. H Jesse Griff
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I think it was probably four or five years ago
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: at this point. Dead beer battered fish, which that recipe
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: would work great for walleye as well. That's what I'd recommend.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Chester, and I did one of those. It was a
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: meteor cooked or something episode where we fried walleye and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: it was fantastic Panco style.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Even though Chester can't even enjoy it. Nope, just gotta look.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: He's just gotta look and smell all right.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Moving on, Our next segment is one Minute Fishing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I feel lucky. We'll do you Punk, go ahead.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Make my cast. One Minute Fishing is where we go
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to catch a fish, and if they're successful, we'll make
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a five hundred dollars donation to a conservation group. This week,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: our angler is American hero Pat Dirkin. He's on Lake
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Vermillion in Minnesota and fishing for a donation to sturgeon
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: for tomorrow. Pat, Welcome to the show.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: Hey, Spencer, Pat's got a.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Fish he's holding right now.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: They've already done.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Wow, we just reeled it in just now.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well that that's a good sign. How'd you catch it?
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: Late? And tell him what you caught? Speak up? A
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: small mouth?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Pass, a very nice small mouth. He's been putting on
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: his feedbag for fall. That thing's got a nice gut
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: on it. Pat, you have a few guests with you today.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Tell us about your fishing buddies.
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: First of all, here is Layton Lates, my nine year
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: old grandson from Rochester, Minnesota, over my left shoulder. Here
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: it's my daughter, Leah. This is my oldest daughter. She
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: was fourteen years in the Navy Spencer.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Wow. Cool.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Now, I didn't know that they let cheeseheads fish in Minnesota.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: So why lake for me? Pat?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: We it's kind of a long story, but Leah walked
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: into a good opportunity to pick up one week rental
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: up here around Lake Vermilion. And I hear Lake Vermillion.
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: They make sure you know it's spelled with one L.
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: But it's a lake with three hundred and sixty one islands,
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: some big areas the west of Ely, Minnesota.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And and what's the plan for that small mouth? Is
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: he gonna go in the live well or back in
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the lake?
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: Lay Lighton says, live well, Okay, that means we'll be
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: eating him for dinner probably.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I like that attitude. How's the fishing been so far
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: this week?
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: Pat Well? Our first day was Tuesday.
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: We got four walleyes and let's see a couple of
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: small malls perch. They were getting mainly perched for fishing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: Slip bobbers here on arms Strong excuse me, Armstrong bay.
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: And so this is a we caught maybe a half
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: dozen nice percha this morning and now it's capping it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: Get a little floor until this.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Guy gets Okay, So for one minute fishing, are you
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: targeting small mouth? Are you going for something else?
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: We've been targeting basically perch, perch and bluegills, And once
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: while when these when these random small almost shows up
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: and smacks that little crappie you know, sized jig, and
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: once a while, we've got gotten them in the boat today.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, So one minute fishing, he's looking for a perch
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of bluegill or a small mouth. And you said you're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: tossing jigs at them.
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we got we have what we're doing. We have
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: this little chunks of worm on there that's again like
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: a number eight, number six that thereabouts. Put this in
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: the live well, hang on one second.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Okay uh. And then after Pat gets the fish in
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: his live well, we're gonna start one minute fishing, and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: for the first time ever, we're gonna have three anglers. Uh,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: trying to fish for that donation today. So Pat, whenever
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you guys make your first cast, you're one minute of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: fishing will start.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna have linke and go first.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Let's let's have you all. Can you all fish at once?
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Pat?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Can?
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Can we do all three of you in that one minute?
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: We can do them all at once?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, there's gonna be a little chaos and the lund.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Yep, let me get mine. You got quick spencer?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Okay? Pat is reapplying a night crawler seth Lake Vermilion?
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Ever been there?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Never been? But it's definitely one I want to visit.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I've heard lots of good things about.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Familion, just just that general part of Minnesota.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat, do they call you captain in that boat?
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: They call me a lot worse?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, Pat is everybody?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: Late and you're ready? Okay, Laten you go first lake casts?
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: All right, grandson has made his cast. Pat has made
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: his cast. There one minute has begun. Pat, Are we
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: just running slip bobbers?
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Sorry?
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Are we just running slip bobbers?
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: There on.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: The wind? Is?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: We're losing Pat's audio?
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: So he got one?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Is he really one?
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: In.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Pat Durkin the only angler to be successful twice at
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: one minute fishing both times was that a yellow perch.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: This one's a smaller, but he's okay.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And both times Pat has been successful. He's done it
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: with a yellow perch. Once in Idaho and now once
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Well done, Pat, Captain Pat Dirkin, you bet that's awesome.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: In the old land, in the land in Lake Vermillion,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he's just won a five hundred dollars donation to Sturgeon
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: for Tomorrow. Pat, you were really stoked to make a
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: donation to Sturgeon for Tomorrow. Tell us about them.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, this goes back in my in my first one.
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: It's a little bit Spencer and I was a young
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: reporter back in the nineteen eighties, a group called a
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: group of local fishermen in the Lake Winnebago area which
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: is oshcost, Wisconsin. That region, they wanted to get more
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: involved in the science aspect of sturgeon management, and they
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: formed this group called Sturgeon for Tomorrow and they've been
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: running now close to forty forty years or so. And
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: every spring they helped organize what's called Sturgeon Patroll and
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: they put guys on the Wolf River with a certain
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: spawn and make sure they don't get poached. They used
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: to be a real bad poaching problem in that in
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: that region. Back and all the way through the early eighties,
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: I used to do newspaper stake cufs basically right, ride
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: a lot of wardens and spend the night watching for
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: poaching it on.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: That Wolf River. But these guys, that's one of the
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: one of the very very many projects they get involved in.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Well you just saved a few more surgeon with that
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars donation. Well done. The legend of Pat
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Dirkin in one minute fishing grows.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Well, thanks you guys, Thanks for joining us.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Pat, Pat, good luck with the rest of the week.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: High fives all around in the boat. I'm tickled.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: That was fun.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: He should just be on every week. Then we have
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: people that catch fish. Pat.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Pat is great because he's obviously a retired fella. I
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: could text him on a Wednesday and be like, Pat,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: we need someone for one minute fishing Tomorrow's like okay,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in yep. So you'll see a lot more of
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Pat Dirk and on media radios.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: One minute fishing.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: All right, Moving on our next segment is the Price
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: is Right.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting ten minutes.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: It's the Price is Right.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Morris, come on down Anderson come on down. The next
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: two contestants on media radios. The Price is Right Now,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: here's your host, Spencer newh.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Wow, thank you Phil. He brings it every single impressively.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: He just does that. You know, let's not free.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Recorded or nothing.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, that's that's live Phil in the studio. Now,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: this game is really simple. Phil is going to tell
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you about a product from the med Eater universe, and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you need to guess its price. The player with the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: closest answer without going over will be declared the winner.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: If both players go over, then you'll both be told
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to try again, and the chat should play along as well,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: because whoever has the closest answer to the correct answer,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: we'll get a shout out. And none of them are
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: going to cheat. They have all vowed to be very honest.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: How many of these are we doing? Just one?
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Three of them? We've got three of them. There are
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: three products today. Have either of you boys played mediate
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Radius prices right before?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Nope, I did. I played once in.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: One Okay, we've got the veteran seth here then bringing
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: all that experience.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: What's surprised? What are we playing for?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: We'll find out in a second. Phil tell us about
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the first item up forbid.
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: Our first item today is a guided nil Guy and
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: whitetail hunt on the famous King Ranch in Texas. Here's
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: your chance to hunt one of the largest pieces of
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: private land in the world. At eight hundred and twenty
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: five thousand acres, the King Ranch is bigger than Rhode Island.
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: This property is home to eighteen thousand nil Guy, which
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: got their start on the King Ranch after a stocking
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: from the San Diego Zoological Garden a century ago. The
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: package includes a nil Guy bowland, a management white tail
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: buck that's guaranteed to score between one hundred and thirty
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: and one hundred and forty inches. You'll also get two
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: nights lodging at the King Ranch, but meals are not included.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: That's right, Phil, But keep in mind it's a four
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: hunter minimum, so you better have three buddies with deep
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: pockets just like you.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: So we got a four hundred price.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna do for one hunter, one hunter price,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and this gets you a nilghai bull, a management buck
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: that they say will be an eight or nine pointer
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: that is over five and a half years old and
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: will score between one hundred and thirty one hundred and
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: thirty and one hundred forty inches. And you have two
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: nights at the King Ranch, but.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Two nights three days a hunt or something like.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I think I think it's two full days. They are
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: very efficient.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I guess on the King.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Right, I killed a white tail buck about eighty yards
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: from the King Ranch border that they might have been.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Living on the King Ranch. You killed yourself? Was it
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a high fence? There? Was it a litw low fence?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Low fence? Yeah, you don't even need a high fence
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: when you own Rhode Island.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's a lot of can't fathom.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I'd like to say that that buck was living on
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the King Ranch and I got to get that one
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: for freaking.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Ranch buck again. The package is a guided hunt for
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a bull nil guy, a one hundred and thirty five
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: inch white tail, and two nights of lodging at the
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: famous King Ranch in Texas. And remember you cannot go over.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: If both of you go over, you'll both be told
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to try again. Seth Are you ready, I'm ready, Brody,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: are you ready? Okay, making a small change to his
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: answer for one person to go to the King ranch
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and kill themselves a nil guy and a white tail.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: st saying ten thousand, five hundred, Brody saying eight thousand,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: nine hundred. The correct answer is lower than both of those,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: so you'll both need to try again. We know it
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: is less than eight thousand, nine hundred. They are revisiting
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: their whiteboards and coming up with a new answer. Brody,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: very quick, seth are you ready reveal your answers? We
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: have set saying six thousand, three hundred fifty dollars. Brody
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: says six thousand, nine hundred dollars. Ooh, the correct answer
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: is eight thousand, five hundred dollars, giving Brody that first
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: point he was only four hundred dollars off with his
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: first guest. Now, a nilguy cow hunt is four thousand,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: four hundred, a combo dove hunt and saltwater fishing trip
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: is two thousand, four hundred, and I've got redfish two
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: hundred from the King rancher.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Right off the bank of the King. Well like casting
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: towards the back king.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you boys are very familiar.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Phil.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: How'd the chat do?
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: Well, we had several people getting right on the money.
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: I convinced they cheated. Unfortunately, I just I don't trust
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: anybody but bull site archery. Guess eight grand. So I'm
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: gonna give him. I'm gonna give him the point.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Well points, full side archery. That just goes to show
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna cheat, you can't cheat right on the money.
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, exactly, You're gonna have to fool me U.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: And we can still see Pat Dirk and fishing. He's
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: still in our waiting room there. Yeah, we're watching some
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: fancy camera work. Now, looks like the boat is moving
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: around all right. Well, maybe check in Pat later. Pil
• 50:25
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• 50:29
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• 50:34
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• 50:37
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• 50:39
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  Speaker 1: your hook through, and so your hook isn't even touching
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: any of the soft plastic.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: So same thing.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Today's price, Well, we know that in nineteen ninety four
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: it was twenty nine to ninety five for a one
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: hundred and ten piece kit, But you guys are guessing
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the price of a one hundred two two piece kit
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: that banjo minnow is still selling. Wow, Phil, can we
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: get it? Can we get a just me on the camera?
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Here?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Show these things? Look at that action. My goodness, fish
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: are genetically wired to eat these things. They just can't resist.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: The one fella from the infomercial said they should be illegal,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: but there's gonna be no fish left in North America.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Here's what I'll do. Whoever wins today's game, I'll give
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: you one of my banjo minnows, and then I expect
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you to catch.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Something on that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could probably catch the first fish ever that
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: bit a banjo minnow in Alaska. You should take one
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: of these to Alaska. What would you What would you
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: catch with this quillback? Please? I would be I would
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: be so pleased if you took one of these to
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Alaska and caught something.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: If there was silvers, like at the mouth of a creek,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: they might eat one of those things, greenling, lot of stuff.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, if you drop that thing down on a shallow hump,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: then like fort water, you'll have something instantly.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: The problem is it's all so gonna get bit off.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, you might get one fish to bite on this,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: and then the lure is just shot. All right, Do
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: you have your price for the twenty twenty five one
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: hundred and ten piece kit? YEP, one hundred two piece kit.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Brody saying
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: thirty nine to ninety five set saying fifty nine ninety five.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: The correct answer is fifty nine to ninety nine set
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: four cents. That's probably the closest we've ever had someone
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: get to the correct answer. I'm going to buy some
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: for the prices, right, but I don't think you want
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: the new ones. Those new ones just like any They
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: look like any swim bait at bastard.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Little articulating cuts in there.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: That's right, I think. So all right, we're onto our
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: final item for today.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Just really quick.
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: I want to throw out there that that Keith said
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: three easy payments of nineteen ninety five, and I think
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: he's accuracy and creativity. I think he deserves some flowers there.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gets your credit ready. They delivered that line
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: twice in the infomercial. Make sure when you call if
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get the banjo minow, you have your credit
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: card in your hand.
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: They don't have any time to waste.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Art phil third and final item. We are tied one
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to one.
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: Our final item up for bid today is a whole
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: salmon from Seattle's world famous Pike Place Fish Market Cheese,
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: known for their flying fish, they'll actually fly one right
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: to your front door. Oh, This twelve pound wildcot chinook
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: comes fresh out of the Pacific Ocean and it's Pike
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: Place's number one seller. You can choose to have it
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: sent hole with the head and fins attached, or have
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: their expert fishmongers turn it into filets and steaks for you.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: That's right, Phil, And they guarantee that if we ordered
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: before noon today, it will arrive on Friday. All right,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Seth and Brady twelve pounds, Phil, twelve pounds. What does
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: it cost to get a whole king salmon? Ships seven
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: hundred miles to meat eater HQ, So you're guessing the
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: price of the fish as well as what it costs
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to ship it. Here a twelve pound king salmon from
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the Pipe Place fish market. This will determine who gets
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: the banjo minnow between at all.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I never buy fish from a store, so I don't
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: even have a clue.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Phil. Have you ever bought anything from Pipe Place?
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: I have not, No whenever. I've only gone there a
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: couple of times, and I just try to get get
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: just walk through as fast as possible, don't make eye contacts,
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: keep moving.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I like the busyness of it. That's like why I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: would want to be there, is to like feel the
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: hustle and bustle of Pipe Place.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Now, Phil, does it say? Uh? No, I probably won't.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: What are you looking for?
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Wilder Hatchery?
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: It says wild wild cot. They are adamant it is
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: wildcot comes out of the Pacific.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Well, there's like wild kings, and then there's the ones
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: they raise up for a little whileties and cut them loose.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: They say wild cought. They don't say anything about where
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: it was raised at though. So again, it's a twelve
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: pound salmon ship seven miles.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just like that in Alaska. The kids got them.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna find out what they're worth.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was ready.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I have a pretty good idea.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: As my kid figured it out.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Brody
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: saying four hundred and twenty dollars, our Seth saying one
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: hundred forty five dollars. The correct answer is five hundred
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: two dollars. That's four hundred and thirty two dollars for
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the fish and seventy dollars for shipping. That comes out
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to a whopping forty two dollars per pound.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Geez.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: That's why I thought them salmon. They ain't cheap.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Well, the kings, because they got the highest they're like
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: highest fat content. It wouldn't be that much for a silver.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Well done, Brody only eighty dollars off. The correct answer
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: again five hundred two dollars. How the chat do feel?
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Chat Way?
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: I mean most of them were in like the fifty
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: dollars range on average. We had Mike at the near
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: the end coming with four to twenty, just like just
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: like Brody did.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Thanks for playing along, and remember to help control the
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: pet population. Have your pets spade and neutered and you
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: might just win yourself a banjo Minnow. All right, that
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: brings us to the end of this week's show, Phil,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Let's get some final feedback from the chat.
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, last call for questions, Greg says Brody, what hat
• 59:17
  Speaker 8: are you wearing?
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: A magpool?
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: Perfect? David asks any waltenned recommendations for a December hunt
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: in Pennsylvania Montana canvas?
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Montana canvas yep.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: Back to we were doing gear talk, Spicy Nacha sent
• 59:38
  Speaker 8: in this, Now, what are y'all thoughts on the non
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: cameo pants. He's always been a full camo guy and
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: was wondering if you've ever had any issues being half
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: a blob if.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: You're sitting in a tree stand and trying to kill
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: a white tail buck at eleven yards, I'd probably be
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: wearing camel pants. If you are trying to kill a
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: very smart turkey at fifteen yards, probably wear camel pants. Besides,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: is that it's not going to be the thing that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Camo raiders or Camo pants like. I'm gonna disagree slightly
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: with Spencer on on at least the turkey thing. I've
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: killed plenty of turkeys wearing solid tan or solid green pants.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: If you're if you're still it's I don't think it's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: as big of a deal as long as you got
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Camo uppers and you're just snug down to the ground tight.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I I've killed a lot of Merriams in solid pants.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: If I was hunting Easterns back in Pennsylvania somewhere where
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: they're real pressure, that would go full Camo for sure.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 8: Randall says, Shout out Phil, Shout out Radio Life crew man.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Randall likes this show so much we have to kick
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: him out of the studio before we turn on the microphones.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: He he was in here right up until the countdown
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: clock started.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: The studio is basically Randall's office.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 8: Lately, Dalton got the King Ranch hunt right on the money,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 8: and has commented several times about how he's mad at
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: me because I accused him of cheating.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Do we trust him?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 8: Not at all?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: Oh no, sorry, he needs to come here by by
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: a ticket to Bozeman and present your case in person,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: and maybe I will hear it. He might do that,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: Phil I say that, Oh yeah, no, just shoot me
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 8: Instagram deum.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: This is another one of those general questions that usually
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: don't play very well because it's sort of like, I'm
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: going to Colorado to hunt any tips, but you know,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: he's got some other stuff that's deep in here. Max says,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: I'm at a seur hour seven of his eighteen hour
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 8: drive to Utah for a mewly archery hunt any tips
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 8: or suggestions for success? But he follows that up with
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: are there any previous media or podcasts that focus on
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: newly hunting to add my binge list? I wish I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: could pull up some podcast episodes from the recesses of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: my brain, but I'm sure there are some of you
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: search in whatever platform that you use for podcasting.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go check out what was formerly Cutting the Distance.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Remy Warren used to host that show, and I'm sure
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: he had all sorts of good mule deer tips and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: tricks than Jason Phelps and Dirk. I'm sure they have
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: some good muley tips as well. And that is now
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the in Pursuit channel with Rich Fronning. What do you got, Brody?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say you probably within the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: like the general other than cutting the distance, like, probably
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: not a lot of archery mule deer stuff that I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: can remember. Can you think of anything? So if you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: want to watch Steve and Joe Rogan archery Hunt mule Deer,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: there's a good episode on that, but I can't think
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: of anything.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: That's one thing I've never really done hunt mule deer
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: with the bow. I've done it a couple of times
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: in Montana.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: It'd be fun up above tree line up real high
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: this time.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a wicked fun hunt.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Do a couple more.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: Phil Devin says, Hey, what cartridge are you guys using
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: this upcoming season. It's a pretty big question. Kind of
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 8: depends on what you're going at.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Seven millimere prc same.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: That is probably what I will do eighty percent of
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: my hunting with this year. And I have a gun
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: tag in Illinois where for the first time I will
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: be using a straight walk cartridge, and I think it'll
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: be a three fifty legend. Still deciding, Sweet Brody.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: It depends on the hunt. I'll be using a six' FIVE,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: prc which is a great, one then maybe shooting a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: six y five Creed more a little bit that my
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: kids will be. Using BUT i might use that gun
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Too one, More.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: Phil nate, says When steve shows up in the, office
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: does work grind to a halt or is that the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: only time anything gets? DONE i could see him producing either.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: Outcome i'd say it depends on whether or not he
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: breaks the harpoon.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Out, Yeah seth is the only one on the same
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: floor as, HIM i Guess phil as. Well do you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: notice When steve's?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 8: AROUND i personally have no idea what he's hearing when
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: he's not.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Here When, Steve i'll give him. Credit When steve's, here
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: he's like here for a, reason and he's working.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: On something that's. TRUE i. KNOW i like to try
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: to sneak into his office and like bug him about,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: stuff like just talking about anything other than, work and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: he's usually, like what do you? Need LIKE i just
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: want to talk fishing or.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Something All, RIGHT a few plugs before we get out of.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Here The mediat crew is hitting the road again this,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: fall visiting some of our favorite fan bases that will
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: be playing, games giving away, prizes and showing off how
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the Med Eater crew. Tailgates that is The Meat Eater Tailgate.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Tour it's. Returning come join our, tailgate eat some, food
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: hang out with the, crew and we'll see you AT
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: i think we have six Stops august, Thirtieth Ohio, State september, Sixth,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Missouri september, Thirteenth Texas september, Twentieth, Wisconsin september twenty, Seventh Penn,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: state And october, Fourth Notre. Dame there will be more.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Details which one do you go?
• 1:04:56
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• 1:05:00
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: There more details that come on really.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 8: Quick just Because mogo reminded me of his, comment he, said,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: huge thanks for today's. Show we crushed it like a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: pinata at a birthday. Party it's It's this show premiered
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: one year ago On august twenty, Second Radio live did.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 8: So if you're still, watching thanks For thanks for, Listening
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: thanks for. Watching it's this show is one of the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: highlights of my. Week thanks To spencer for helping those
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: show kind of find its voice and, rhythm and every
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 8: single crew member who's been a part of. It it's
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: been a lot of.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Fun we're just hitting our. Stride it's only going to get. Better.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Mogor, yeah and thanks To. Mogor he's PROBABLY i don't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: think he's missed a. Show he's like our number one,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: fan all.
• 1:05:41
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• 1:05:43
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