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- 0:04Welcome to the noise, listen to the passion and hunter car
- 0:07let's. Jump again.
- 0:09It's dying. Let's move on.
- 0:16Great done by Dunphy. Chance the one for Scotland.
- 0:27So hello and welcome back to the Scots for Mike podcast.
- 0:31I'm your host James Scott and it's been another busy week in
- 0:34Scottish football. We've had the World Cup draw,
- 0:36something that's heart and army we're all getting very excited
- 0:39about. And we also had a really good
- 0:40result for Hearts. We weren't going to talk too
- 0:43much about the club football that happened, but I think it's
- 0:46hard to avoid what happened at Celtic Park on Sunday.
- 0:49Joining me for this episode is Fenn Crocker.
- 0:51Fenn, good to have you on. Good to be back.
- 0:53Good to be back. Busy week as usual.
- 0:56Yeah, busy, busy night for us. And Friday night after the job
- 0:58we were the stress all that. Had to go for a few pints just
- 1:02to. Yeah, just a few, just a few.
- 1:05Lay off some steam and Adam from Gorky Talk a good episode to
- 1:10have you on for. Yeah, glad to be back on the
- 1:13pod, mate. Be be a good one.
- 1:15I we've seemed to avoid you when Hearts form depth, put your back
- 1:18on after I went at Celtic Park. Is that is that from the
- 1:21shadows? Do you know I'll, I'll make a
- 1:23conscious effort the next time we have a horror show to be on
- 1:26there. That part and that by the way,
- 1:29that's a guarantee. So I.
- 1:31Prefer some of my colleagues. They were like, it's not not too
- 1:33much horror shows. They were trying to like die and
- 1:35play the the bad results are like, you know, we're just any
- 1:38any other season. We'd take some of these all over
- 1:40the Kelly one at home. We'll talk about a lot.
- 1:42More I was at, I was at the killer game as well.
- 1:45Glorious at some point so you can have me on for the action
- 1:48when that happened. That's already happened against
- 1:50Aberdeen mate, didn't it? One that you made, quite
- 1:54literally. Yeah.
- 1:57Right. Well, anyway, First things first
- 2:00and World Cup draw. Think next.
- 2:03Someone feels just a little bit more closer after Friday's draw.
- 2:07Just a little bit more tangible, a bit more real though, that we
- 2:09know what group, when, who we're going to be up against and where
- 2:13we're going to be playing. So yeah, it was a ceremony.
- 2:17It certainly was a ceremony. More of a soccer maybe, but.
- 2:21Fucking Netflix documentary Jesus.
- 2:22Correct. Yeah, it went on for quite a
- 2:24while and we eventually got there though I think it was,
- 2:27what was it, Corp 6:00 and I went in by I think.
- 2:30It was half 6. Half 6.
- 2:33Names came out at the heart, Brazil and Morocco were drawn
- 2:36together and in Scotland were the team that eventually ended
- 2:39up in Group C and then Haiti were the the fourth team to join
- 2:44us from Part 4. Before we get decking into a
- 2:47little bit deeper, just initial reactions from you both are in
- 2:51the draw and you know the group we've ended up in.
- 2:53Yeah. I mean, I was at your flight,
- 2:55James, obviously watching the draw and soon as Morocco is
- 2:58drawn in the same part as Brazil, same group as Brazil, we
- 3:01were all thinking avoid that one, avoid that one.
- 3:04Although the locations were pretty good on the East Coast,
- 3:07just thinking, oh God, here we go again.
- 3:09And then as it got to to Group C and we had African team after
- 3:14African team and South American team, eventually it was just
- 3:18bound to happen. You could see the stars aligning
- 3:22and. Me and you were looking at each
- 3:23other just as each one of them went by.
- 3:25And we're like, we know how this is happening.
- 3:26Yeah, we know what's going on here.
- 3:29So. Yeah.
- 3:29Initial initial despair because of yeah, Morocco is probably the
- 3:33the hardest part to a team by far and to a field for the for
- 3:38the older guys that have waited 27 years and then been drawn in
- 3:42the in a group with two of the three same teams.
- 3:45But no, obviously was nervous that we'd get a UEFA playoff
- 3:51winner like Italy or Denmark. Luckily those were both drawn in
- 3:55Group A and Group B to spare us. And then we got Haiti, which I
- 3:59think obviously having them first is a big boost as well.
- 4:02Yeah, and I would have been the cheddar on the cake had to be
- 4:04drawn Haiti, had we done Haiti had we drawn one of the big guns
- 4:10coming in for the playoffs in Europe, I think that was a
- 4:12really must avoid. It's not just like at lady
- 4:15Marving Turkey and other as well, like just teams that would
- 4:18would wouldn't it just pose a challenge to us, But arguably
- 4:22Brazil and Morocco probably would have rather not been up
- 4:24against as well. Steve Park commented on the draw
- 4:28in respect to the fact that we haven't got a European team at
- 4:30all. And that's quite nice because I
- 4:32think for especially guys in Maine and your generation fan
- 4:36possibly use well, Adam Link. We've only really seen us play
- 4:39non European teams in friendlies and the lure off this event was
- 4:44Scotland getting to play Brazil or Argentina or someone in a
- 4:46competitive match and, you know, just getting to getting to
- 4:49experience something a little bit different.
- 4:52As he said, obviously it's a good draw.
- 4:54C plus exact words where it's a good draw.
- 4:56It took a long time for them to get on the draw.
- 4:58Mind. The draw is fantastic.
- 5:00One of the big things in my head was no European teams.
- 5:03So we're playing three top sides from three different continents
- 5:06of the world and that's what the World Cup is all about.
- 5:09So yeah, I think it's a really good draw.
- 5:12Pretty much agree with that, Adam.
- 5:14Yeah, pretty much. I mean, unfortunately I'm in
- 5:16that older category of seen. I seen the previous one, albeit
- 5:19I was only the tender aged 9 year old to let you do the
- 5:22maths. But yeah, like 28 years to wait
- 5:26for two of the same three teams who played in.
- 5:28It was a bit of a second or when it first came out.
- 5:31But then when you look along the groups as they're getting drawn
- 5:33like, and I've just a quick look again, they're like, I remember
- 5:36like watching it and the pour and rain, watching my son's
- 5:38training and thinking when is this actually going to actually
- 5:40be drawn? Like it was taking forever and
- 5:42then it got drawn. I'm looking on the groups and
- 5:44I'm thinking like there's like Argentina, Austria, there's
- 5:47Portugal, Colombia, Spain, Uruguay.
- 5:50And I'm thinking, yeah, I'd much rather be in Brazil, Morocco
- 5:54than any of those. And obviously we'll go into that
- 5:56shortly. But yeah, I'm quite happy with
- 5:58it. I agree with the point you
- 5:59should have made, Steve Clark, as well as right, as that's the
- 6:01point of World Cup, right? You don't want to just be facing
- 6:04European teams were used to all levels of European teams.
- 6:07So it's good to do something for a change in power.
- 6:09What's against like, let's see the other continents in the
- 6:12world looking forward to it. Yeah, so you might be a ticket.
- 6:16Do you remember, would you watch the last games in any game?
- 6:18I mean they they get on at school for a year.
- 6:20Do you remember them getting the TV out in class or?
- 6:24Nah, man, I mean I can barely remember last week man.
- 6:28To be fair, I think I do remember the opening game in
- 6:31school. Like I think I do remember it.
- 6:33Brazil was it, you know. What I was I think it's more
- 6:36like flashbacks because of the moments like because there was a
- 6:38penalty. Yeah, there was an own goal like
- 6:42it was the usual like well, beginnings for us obviously been
- 6:45main understanding that the glorious failures are like we
- 6:47get so close and then we we fail and.
- 6:49Then that, yeah, that mix up at the back.
- 6:51They remember the Norby 1 so much because we've obviously
- 6:54we've managed to get the one there, but in the Morocco 1 was
- 6:56like the one again where you're like waiting to get through.
- 6:59And I think Morocco at the time were like bottom seeds.
- 7:01So again. Everyone was like hyping up, all
- 7:03came, we're going to get through, we're going to get
- 7:05through. And I think it was like 3 no
- 7:06Morocco. I watched the high on this back
- 7:09just to like, you know, it's not a game of I can recall seen at
- 7:13any point and um, it was, you know, I just seemed like one of
- 7:17those typical Scotland games, like we had loads of chances
- 7:19based on the highlights. Uh, they went one nil up, quite
- 7:23a good goal. The second goal was like a
- 7:25shocker and then we got mine sent off and you just I've been
- 7:28in the stands and these scenarios know exactly how it
- 7:30feels. Like a late 90s version of self
- 7:35destruction for Scotland that's obviously continued for decades
- 7:38of ourselves in the. Brazil game, I'd say it's funny
- 7:40you seen about watching that skill and remember in the
- 7:42penalty, the penalty is like one of my like claims to like being
- 7:46an early Scotland fan for a black moment because I was born
- 7:49in 1997. I was 11 months old in July and
- 7:54and June of the 98 World Cup and I got taken to the pub for it by
- 7:57my mom and dad. So.
- 7:58And when John Collins scored, I think he'd taken it sakes a bus
- 8:01into tears. I mean, I was I was in tears.
- 8:04I mean, Tommy scored at Hamden. But here's a joy, here's a joy,
- 8:07here's a joy I knew I was in for.
- 8:11So yeah, obviously, I mean, I think overall looking along the
- 8:16group, so it was definitely I think me and you fan penned
- 8:19Argentina one good Jai. I think Jay, that wouldn't have
- 8:23been a bad one to be. And I think I quite like the
- 8:25idea that. But yeah, I think 1 like this.
- 8:31The appeal of it is I think actually I picked out Morocco
- 8:34and Brazil as two teams. I just like to see us play
- 8:36before the draw. I mean, if Morocco is in Part 1
- 8:40maybe, but I think yeah, Part 2, there was a lot of teams like
- 8:42Iran. I mean, I mean like, games
- 8:44aside. Yeah, obviously, like talking
- 8:46from a spectacle standpoint, that'll be a very good game to
- 8:49watch. Yeah, well, hopefully, maybe
- 8:52it's not as a Scotland fan, but you've got Iran, Australia,
- 8:55Austrian Part 2. Those are the kind of teams
- 8:57you're kind of hoping to maybe get Morocco and maybe Croatia,
- 9:02the ones you're trying to avoid. Obviously being Scotland, we get
- 9:05Morocco straight away, but no Haiti, Kuruko or Kuruso and Cape
- 9:12Verde were the three that you were kind of hoping.
- 9:14You get one of them and you should.
- 9:17I'm really emphasizing the word should be.
- 9:22And yeah, hopefully we get 3 points on the board first game
- 9:24and a good goal difference and then we can relax and bathe in
- 9:29the Miami Heat, which is going to be absolutely scorching for
- 9:32the players. Yeah, I saw something today as
- 9:36well that every half of every game in the World Cup there will
- 9:39be a two or three minute pause for hydration in each half.
- 9:42Yeah, so. That a football as you can to
- 9:45the 22nd minute or something and.
- 9:47That will give us the. Perfect, perfect.
- 9:49Good fans, fun as well. I can we have a 2-3 minute.
- 9:53Yeah, if they're providing that, no, no.
- 9:55Tell beer in America at games, do they not?
- 9:57Oh. True.
- 9:57Yeah, No, no, I'm just saying that'll give them a perfect
- 9:59excuse to to run as many commercials as they say as
- 10:04possible. There'll be commercials mid
- 10:05water break. I'm telling you 100%.
- 10:09I so I mean I touched on the draw again.
- 10:12I just thought it was kind of crazy the way it worked out like
- 10:15me and fan were like trying to I'll be in.
- 10:16I ended up finding a lot of time to book extra accommodation and
- 10:20I were from the start of that that we kept looking over and
- 10:24like, oh, it's not started yet. And then I'd go back to the.
- 10:27Last we were we were eating fajitas.
- 10:29I'd booked everything and you're like, oh shit, I should probably
- 10:32book something. And by the time the draw
- 10:33started, I think you'd booked everything.
- 10:35Yeah, that colored like pretty much most of these coasts.
- 10:37And then I mean, that was that was another massive benefit, I
- 10:40mean for the Tarn army been drawn into the script because of
- 10:43all the locations. I definitely think we've landed
- 10:46a more affordable group of games.
- 10:50Well, if you can call it that, yeah, I mean.
- 10:52I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
- 10:54Yeah. In comparison to what else you
- 10:55could have, Yeah, definitely. So we've.
- 10:57In Seattle, prices were out. We were looking and we didn't
- 11:01even book anything. But yeah, me and James, we got
- 11:03good flights to New York from Manchester, good return flights,
- 11:07good price. So we'll be heading out there on
- 11:10the 11th to 27th. Think you're 11th to 26th.
- 11:14All three games we'll be there for.
- 11:15And then, yeah, I think if we can touch on the venues as well,
- 11:18Boston. We'll just, we'll just go the
- 11:21we'll go to Haiti game, the first one, OK, Say Haiti ranked
- 11:2684th in the world game through the World Cup qualifying
- 11:30campaign. And I grew up with Honduras,
- 11:33Costa Rica and Nicaragua. They topped out on 11 points, 2
- 11:37points clear of Honduras. And that got more as a direct
- 11:41entry a long way. A couple of other countries like
- 11:44Carousel. I don't think I've got the
- 11:46pronunciation right. Definitely promised the better
- 11:48than Wayne Gretzky did not. Rocco.
- 11:50No, no, definitely not. So in terms of the players, not
- 11:55a lot of big names people recognize 1.
- 11:58You might recognize Fan, but in Aberdeen Fan, you were in Athens
- 12:02a couple of weeks ago. The striker Piero Yeah key
- 12:06Athens he assessed against using that so night that you'd
- 12:11probably rather forget. Yeah.
- 12:14Not so welcome reminder for you. Yeah, thanks.
- 12:16Thanks for that, James. No, I do.
- 12:18I don't remember much of that night.
- 12:19I think after I just dragged myself to death.
- 12:21No, but I think they've got him. They've got a boy.
- 12:26I can't actually remember the name off my top of his name off
- 12:28the top of my head, but he played an MLS for Houston Dynamo
- 12:33and a couple of teams. Maybe but.
- 12:36Yeah. No, I don't know.
- 12:37Any of their players, really. The only other guys I've knew I
- 12:40got there. I think it's Belgarde or Belgard
- 12:43for Wolves, and then Oh yeah, and then there's Del Croix for
- 12:48Barnley, but again, apart from the on.
- 12:51I thought it was French. Well, there's quite a big link
- 12:53there. I think there's a few guys that
- 12:55are born in France have changed nationality in the same way that
- 12:59kind of. So I think there's.
- 13:01Only one there's there's one born on the island and that is
- 13:03Teeth Chong and. So he's.
- 13:06Also of Dutch heritage, Yeah, but no, I think there's been
- 13:10reports coming out from Haiti. Well, from what we can gather
- 13:14that they are going to be targeting Jill Nationale
- 13:17players, so watch out for that. Maybe their squad will be, well,
- 13:21one of the names by the time 1. Of the names, it was 10, no.
- 13:24As you know, I'll see it mark some money, yeah.
- 13:26But it was someone, I was going to say 20 years old former
- 13:29Newcastle player. I think everyone members on for
- 13:31the the designer headbands they was flaunting during his games.
- 13:35He's now a. Good.
- 13:36She ones, yeah. Yeah, he's now at Club America.
- 13:39It's not been confirmed yet, but I think, I mean, he's just been
- 13:42given a lifeline to appear at World Cup.
- 13:44Yeah, he was that Al Akhley in Saudi Arabia as well.
- 13:47Yeah. And then he's, yeah, it's.
- 13:49A better you turn James like it because I looked earlier on
- 13:52today at that and then like there's a few articles for the
- 13:56through the search engine. I looked down it was like it was
- 13:59done 2 two or three weeks ago. Most that was saying he drooled
- 14:01out, not like not all of them were like concrete, like it was
- 14:055050. Like some sources you could, you
- 14:08know, like put in the back of a fag packet and then the other
- 14:11sources you could maybe see them as kind of like genuine sources.
- 14:14But like, yeah, like I'm more than your count for that.
- 14:17Like if there's a chance to be a World Cup like then I think is
- 14:21he not French chance at Max men? Yeah, yeah, he's capped up to
- 14:24under 20 ones for the French. I mean the.
- 14:26Chances of getting the French squad?
- 14:27That's like, no? Not to be.
- 14:29It's just like Harvey Barnes. They talked to him coming over
- 14:32to Scotland. National team Mixed depends on
- 14:34it from well everyone. If you're not meant, yeah, yeah,
- 14:39I'm I'm of the same opinion, I think.
- 14:41Yeah. It's hard from players that have
- 14:44worked so hard, but I think there's people that have been
- 14:46overticked by Steve Clark that maybe that's the only way they
- 14:49get forced at the squad. So I'm of the opinion getting
- 14:52in, if it makes us a better squad, especially with Ben Doak
- 14:55seemingly injured all the time, then I'm all for it.
- 15:00We'll focus. We'll keep focusing on Haiti,
- 15:02yeah. I know you're of a different
- 15:03opinion too. I'm both.
- 15:04I hate being like AI, hate being a grump like that, but.
- 15:07James that's why we have podcasts mates so we have
- 15:10opposite opinions and chat for people like us engaging with
- 15:13each other. I mean you're wrong like but
- 15:16what? It's not the opinion all the
- 15:18same. I don't like he's been asked,
- 15:22I'm positive he's been asked already and he's obviously not
- 15:25taken up on it because he's waiting on an England.
- 15:26Co-op. He said he'd had earlier talks
- 15:28with Steve Clark but nothing concrete, so I don't know what.
- 15:31Yeah. And for me, like the Navy blue
- 15:33jersey is no less valuable than a white 1.
- 15:37And I just think if you've been asked once and you've said no,
- 15:41you know I've said no. I know see key thing mate.
- 15:43Like if for me I'm I'm instantly with you.
- 15:46If he's, if it actually comes out that he's been asked before
- 15:49and said no, like I'm with you like now, then it kind of just
- 15:52turn up just because we're a World Cup.
- 15:53Can't. I don't want players, just
- 15:55Scotland actually to play. It's because I think it's
- 15:58because James, it's not being categorically said.
- 16:00And then I think when that what's that reporter guy that
- 16:02does the Nuka Scottish reporter does it, Keith, Tony or someone
- 16:06like that? Yeah.
- 16:07I think it was him though, or somebody that questioned them
- 16:09the moment we got through and like.
- 16:11Yeah, like the next thing he had a pre.
- 16:13Kind of. Schedule interview and he was
- 16:15like, and I think he started replying to people that are
- 16:18commenting on it. So whatever saying like listen,
- 16:20he never said they wanted to be part of Scotland because I know
- 16:23at the World Cup he said, I just thought I would ask because he
- 16:25was eligible. Like would you like, would you
- 16:28be up for that? He's like, so I know, whereas I
- 16:30think folk could like jumped on it to see like, oh, I or just
- 16:33cares all of a sudden because we're at a World Cup where it
- 16:35seems like not all. I as a reporter literally asked
- 16:38him. He didn't mention anything about
- 16:39until I asked them. So I mean, we'll just.
- 16:43Watch this space, I suppose. Yeah, got to March next
- 16:46international break, so see what develops over that time.
- 16:49Same with Haiti. Obviously you're saying then
- 16:50they are looking to draft and guys are eligible, so we might
- 16:55have a conversation down the line.
- 16:57And we can actually touch on something else that Steve Clark
- 16:59said. He said he wants to play a
- 17:01friendly with at least one country from each of those
- 17:04continents. So there was rumours about a
- 17:07friendly against Argentina. Obviously maybe that will happen
- 17:10now. I don't know who would play from
- 17:13CONCACAF, maybe Jamaica or something like that, or maybe a
- 17:16bigger nation like US or something.
- 17:18I don't know. And.
- 17:19You like the thought of that idea, to be honest.
- 17:21Yeah. And then maybe obviously we've
- 17:24never, I don't, I don't know where these friends, friendlies
- 17:27we played, but obviously we've never, the men's team has never
- 17:30played a game on African soil, only the women's team to die
- 17:34against Morocco just a couple of months back.
- 17:36So maybe, maybe there's a trip to Africa, to the extremely few
- 17:41that can afford it. Yeah, I've not got enough money
- 17:43for this. The money is all going towards
- 17:45the States for me. Very, very little entry for for
- 17:51getting tickets to that. I think what it might be as
- 17:53well, it depends like, like, so say it's like an African
- 17:56country, it depends what country they play.
- 17:58Sometimes they'll organize it in such a way that they've got a
- 18:00squad that's playing in certain parts of Europe and stuff.
- 18:04Because I think like, for example, was it not Brazil?
- 18:06Senegal wasn't like Wembley, Yeah.
- 18:08And a friendly so like I think. Not.
- 18:10Not saying we'll be played at Wembley.
- 18:12But like, you know what I mean? We had a.
- 18:14Few years ago we played Nigeria at Craven Cottage.
- 18:16Aye, so that's what I mean. Like it might be something like
- 18:18that. It'd probably be more the most.
- 18:20I think that'd be more what Steve Clark would talk for then
- 18:24my whatever they would end up in Africa or whatever.
- 18:26But yeah, no. Yeah.
- 18:28On the flip side though, obviously it's going to be
- 18:30extremely hot, so maybe getting a game in where there's extreme
- 18:34hot conditions to see how it ends, yeah.
- 18:38The game against Haiti as well, I mean it was going to be hot.
- 18:42It's in Boston and 1st 2 games in Boston at the Gillette
- 18:46Stadium, the Boston Stadium and stuff which is. 25 miles away
- 18:50from Boston. Yeah, so if you're, if you're
- 18:52Scotland fan looking to get booked up for this game,
- 18:55Providence, I was had a few people taking, you know, haven't
- 18:58taken pops at me saying why have you booked there?
- 18:59But like many of the stadiums for this tournament, they're not
- 19:03city centre based, they're not neighborhood based like British.
- 19:06Philippines. It's the Hamden in Boston,
- 19:08James. Is that what you're saying?
- 19:09Oh, it's well, the difference. The difference This was a Hamden
- 19:12in Boston. Obey.
- 19:13Yeah, it's if what's what's Sterling's going forth?
- 19:15Barton Forth. Bank, yeah.
- 19:17It's the Fourth Bank of Glasgow, essentially.
- 19:19To give to give an example, cool the distance between Boston city
- 19:23centre and the stadium is the same as between Manchester and
- 19:26Liverpool. Right, there you go.
- 19:28So I mean we've booked up, we've booked up me Infinibo from
- 19:31Providence for that one. So it's.
- 19:34In the House of Glasgow, the fun start that I got told by my dad
- 19:38has also come in is that it's got the highest density of
- 19:41coffee shops and donut shops in any set of any city in America,
- 19:44certainly. What's look at?
- 19:45Is that over? Yeah, doughnuts and coffee.
- 19:48I'll get me up to noon and then after there I'm going to need
- 19:50something a bit stronger. But no, it's about an hour of
- 19:53public transport away from the stadium.
- 19:55I was hoping to get to Philadelphia for fill a cheese
- 19:58steak, but wasn't to be. We're in Boston.
- 20:00It gives us a good base. I guess it's good for the
- 20:02players and the fans. That's definitely good for the
- 20:04fans and the team. 13. It's moving about.
- 20:07It would have been. It's a smaller venue of I think.
- 20:1265,000 for all three games. Yeah, so the FIFA take a 10% cut
- 20:17for corporate 10. 1000 C Cut. 10,000 Yeah, I wish.
- 20:21That's the allocation for supporters club members will be
- 20:28about 3500 and. 20 I've seen that.
- 20:31I've seen that from. Yeah, that's from Gavin at
- 20:33Scotland's Confession. All credit to him, he does all
- 20:35the hard work. And yeah, we'll, we'll find out
- 20:38more. They've released the fans over
- 20:40that they said would they'd release and then they'll give
- 20:43more details about tickets through the SSC I think in three
- 20:48days. So find that more than hoping to
- 20:51get a Category 2 ticket, which is not cheap, still $300.00, so
- 20:54about £200 a pop. And yeah, flights are booked,
- 20:58accommodation booked. It feels a lot more real like
- 21:00you said. Yeah.
- 21:02So, yeah, that one's 66,000, so well less than 10.
- 21:06And you said 3500 for the supporters.
- 21:09A good, a good allocation there for the Tarn Army, although one,
- 21:13I mean, it's not good for Haiti fans, but it's definitely a
- 21:15benefit for the Tarn Army. I'm sure Haiti and Iran are two
- 21:19nations that are banned from having traveling fans.
- 21:22So the delegates and the players get to come, but most well.
- 21:25Early. Well.
- 21:26Yeah, FIFA had to stand in to to get Iranian delegates even to
- 21:30the draw and they only got 3. So yeah, yeah, Iran and Haiti
- 21:34band, obviously that means it'll feel a bit more like a home
- 21:37game, if you can even say that. I know there's a lot more
- 21:40opportunity for tickets in the resale platforms.
- 21:42Yeah, and it's just not going to demand the same interest from
- 21:45locals, apart from the fact there might be that people,
- 21:48Scottish heritage moles come to watch.
- 21:49I hope so. I.
- 21:50Feel that's that's half the country, isn't it?
- 21:52Yeah, it's a, it's a good. It's a good opportunity for tech
- 21:58fans that miss out through the supporters club to get something
- 22:02in the resale. And like you said, I mean it
- 22:04could be, I mean many, many phases.
- 22:06Of Scotland, I was going to say, because in Germany there was
- 22:09reports somewhere, but well at peak there was about 100,000
- 22:13there, but across the whole tournament there was reports of
- 22:15about 200,000 travelling to Germany for the EUR.
- 22:18What do you think? Obviously it's a lot more
- 22:19expensive. What do you think those numbers
- 22:21could look like, both of you for the USA?
- 22:23It's a hard one. It's so hard because I know
- 22:25people that don't have tickets. Mummy, he's not in the we, I
- 22:29think he is in a supporters club.
- 22:30He's. Not, I think, the difference
- 22:31with. This one is like you've just
- 22:33touched the nail on the head a little bit as well as like
- 22:35there's so many people with Scottish connections and by
- 22:37either Scottish people in America, like people that have
- 22:40got family or you know, Americans like their family
- 22:43trees and stuff. So somebody somewhere they know
- 22:45water kilt for them, however many generations ago.
- 22:47So like there's going to be loads of Scotland or Scottish
- 22:50related people over there on top of the Tartan Army that are
- 22:52common. I really couldn't hang up.
- 22:55I can't. On the one hand I can't imagine
- 22:57200,000 people going to America obviously.
- 23:00But then I'm like, I don't know what number I could put on it,
- 23:05but it'll still be a lot I think.
- 23:07I think it'll be like closer to 20,000.
- 23:09I think that's a conservative estimate, not too high, not too
- 23:11low. We can see how many we see in
- 23:14Boston and Providence. But no, I mean, like you said,
- 23:17I've got someone was born and grew up in Aberdeen and then
- 23:20there's been in the States for 25 years.
- 23:22So like you said, there's so many connections of so many
- 23:25people that are actually Scottish, not like the the group
- 23:28that was interviewed that was talking about the Scotland
- 23:32result, the Scotland, yeah, Washington, Scotland fan club.
- 23:36If you've seen that interview, you'll know what I'm talking
- 23:38about. Yeah.
- 23:40Yeah, that's who we're going to be competing with tickets for,
- 23:42you just know. Exactly.
- 23:43The ones that, the ones that ask you what clan you're from, those
- 23:46types. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:48Yeah, some interesting dress choices in that video as well.
- 23:50I've never seen a suit like that in my life, to be fair.
- 23:54Yeah, But yeah, then so we've got first game against 80I mean
- 23:59it's a it's a tricky 1. I think we spoke with this just
- 24:01before we came on and, you know, in the warm up, when in this
- 24:04game is winnable, definitely winnable.
- 24:07But we know we've been here with Scotland before.
- 24:10It's a lot of stakes right in the first game, you know, I
- 24:12mean, how do we approach this? Do you think?
- 24:17Is it I? Think it's better than having it
- 24:19last because I think that's what really done is in in the in the
- 24:22EUR Obviously we can't say we would have beat them if we
- 24:24played them first. But I think it's that whole
- 24:27sentiment of like obviously we know playing against it or
- 24:31Haiti. I don't know how to say it is a
- 24:33must win because of the other teams in the group, but it's the
- 24:36fact where if it's the last game, it actually is if you lose
- 24:41your out. Whereas I think if there's
- 24:45certainly there's still pressure, that is less pressure
- 24:47on it being the last game at the whole final, the decider.
- 24:52So I think getting it first where there's still a lot of
- 24:56confidence within the fan group, getting three points on the
- 24:58board and then having those two games where if you either don't
- 25:03lose heavily or even get a point, then you're through to
- 25:06the round of 32. So I mean it could really and
- 25:10that what that could do is set up the group going forward
- 25:12really well for us. Yeah, I think we're a momentum
- 25:14team a lot of the time. I think you saw that in Euro
- 25:17qualifiers where obviously got that first one against Cyprus,
- 25:20but then that big win against against Spain at Hampden really
- 25:25just got us into the flow of things.
- 25:27Then obviously Norway would game we we won and obviously even
- 25:30could have top that group. And then World Cup qualification
- 25:33again, even though performance were bad, I think if we just get
- 25:38a couple of results, even then we go we go into this kind of
- 25:42slow. And on the on the flip side of
- 25:44things, I think it can also happen in a negative way.
- 25:49So, you know, at the EUR losing heavily to Germany, I think that
- 25:52just kind of sent us into a spiral.
- 25:55Obviously Switzerland performance was better, but we
- 25:58never really recovered I don't think from that from that
- 25:59Germany game. So I think it's vitally
- 26:02important to get off to a good start and then I'm confident
- 26:06that we can we can finally break that, you know, 100 and what 120
- 26:11year curse where we've never got a group stage.
- 26:14Yeah, I was. I don't like that start though,
- 26:17because, you know, although we've never got the group stage.
- 26:19If we've like to be in. No, if you if you go back to you
- 26:22donate just like to be at that finals was pretty much you know,
- 26:30I think it was like 2 groups of four Yeah, like there was 8
- 26:33finals yeah, but like it's it's just the way as right coming
- 26:38into the next game. Actually 2 are still up in the
- 26:40North East of America, Morocco 11th in the world, just outside
- 26:46the top ten. Like we said, unfortunately not
- 26:49to be a part one side. They've been doing very well
- 26:52completely undefeated and they're African qualifiers.
- 26:57It wins from eight games and a group of sex, obviously all
- 27:03possession varies massively. I mean they had nowhere near as
- 27:06tougher group as us, but you know in terms of our
- 27:08qualification. But they can only play what's in
- 27:10front of them. And when you look for the team
- 27:12as well, certainly lots of call in there.
- 27:14I mean, Morocco's really stepped up in terms of being one of the
- 27:18best sides in the world. That's in nevermind, one of the
- 27:20best African sides. They were the first African team
- 27:24to get to the semi finals last World Cup.
- 27:26Obviously got massive names like Hakimi and Braham Diaz, Real
- 27:31Madrid and PSG. Obviously some some other names
- 27:34that maybe if you're not a football nerd like me and James,
- 27:37you won't know like Aguerd who's at Marseille.
- 27:39I think now maybe you'll know him from Premier League time at
- 27:41West Ham, yeah. Yeah, no former I'm forgetting.
- 27:47My Amrabat is now at Bettis. Yeah.
- 27:49So I'm Robert Former and I'm, I think are you thinking of
- 27:52Mazzarowi then as well? Yeah.
- 27:54And then obviously and Naziri, who knocked Portugal out in the
- 27:57quarterfinals last time. Yeah, and then you've got a
- 28:01player that I think a lot of Scottish football will be.
- 28:04Oh yeah, the drama. Start the season.
- 28:07Egg Imani Leal so and he's been starting for them as well.
- 28:12Yeah, he's been really well. And then, Oh yeah, and they're
- 28:13keeper Bona or Bona, Yeah. He's getting.
- 28:16The best, Yeah, he's getting on, but he's one of the best penalty
- 28:19savers in the world, so let's hope we need that.
- 28:22No, don't need them. Yeah.
- 28:24So. Yeah, quality in that team, like
- 28:26you said, I think, I think 11th is their old world rank and I
- 28:29think Adjust has had the top 12 because obviously 12 groups of
- 28:31four and it's done by world ranking.
- 28:32So there must be 13 to 14. No, I'm sure like I don't know
- 28:36when they've based. Because because of the hosts are
- 28:39Part 1. You're right, yeah.
- 28:40No, they are so. They'll go, they'll feel hard
- 28:42done by, yeah. Who if it'd been a one host
- 28:44situation, Morocco would have been a Part 1 sides, yeah.
- 28:49Puts it into scale, yeah. Adam, only one of us here may be
- 28:52old enough to members play Morocco or just champion without
- 28:55you. Again, what's realistic here in
- 28:58terms of this game, assuming we have one first game, Morocco
- 29:01could be coming into this with one point, with three or with
- 29:05none. It's hard to really see how that
- 29:07Brazil game with them could go. I mean, what's realistic for us?
- 29:13I don't see why we can't get result.
- 29:14I would say Morocco's. We've got a lot of good players,
- 29:18a lot of talent and like you said that up and coming, they're
- 29:20progressive. I think their main issue is like
- 29:23a lot of African teams, they're heavily reliant on their players
- 29:26getting to the big leagues in Europe, which they have
- 29:29obviously achieved recently. They've got a lot of good talent
- 29:32probably people have not even mentioned on top of the ones you
- 29:34have. I.
- 29:38Don't think that a level that we haven't faced before.
- 29:40I don't that a level where we couldn't see ourselves like
- 29:44coming away we are a victory. I think every single team in
- 29:47that group like we can get something off every team working
- 29:50at World Drunken's. It doesn't overly mean that much
- 29:52to me to be honest. They won an AO8 and their core
- 29:55first doesn't mean much to me. It's a great achievement
- 29:57obviously. But then I look at the opponent
- 30:00and I think, well, I'm not really that excited about the
- 30:03fact, just want to and consider to an African qualifier like
- 30:06that doesn't really mean anything to me.
- 30:08So, but the differences as I find they have got the talent
- 30:11and the quality and and the, I would like to say it, forward
- 30:16thinking attitude. So I think like Scotland and the
- 30:18EUR, we've seen them and a lot of us were sort of crying out
- 30:21for Scotland to just be a bit more aggressive in terms like
- 30:25the forward thinking, in terms of attacking mainset, trying to
- 30:28get goals. We would always sort of bet
- 30:30don't be about how much we didn't really give it a go and I
- 30:33don't think that all core that kind of team.
- 30:35So like Morocco will give it a go.
- 30:37Morocco or more than Keith boy turning us over.
- 30:39I think it's more that I'm more than worried about us not not
- 30:43turning up. We need to make sure we right
- 30:45the wrongs, but I think we have it in US based on the fact that
- 30:48like Clark talked about, you wanted to create like a a club
- 30:51mentality where people get a lot of caps and a lot of experience
- 30:54in it and it's met it and a lot of these guys have met it and
- 30:57they're all playing in top leagues themselves.
- 30:59So I think we're in a much better place to show we can do
- 31:02on a backstage. And like you've just touched on
- 31:04earlier, if we can get that one against Haiti and a major
- 31:08tournament, regardless of the fact that Haiti, it still then
- 31:11gives them that belief that a game in the turn up, no, against
- 31:14Morocco, they'll be thinking, right, we can beat Morocco as
- 31:16well. And then what?
- 31:17You never know for their how it can look, even if they don't
- 31:20beat them at the time and a really good performance, then
- 31:22they might still feel they can, you know, do damage on Brazil,
- 31:25depending on how the results have went.
- 31:26So yeah, I'm confident in every game like I would if I put like
- 31:31productions on it. I'd be like a win against TT and
- 31:35then I'd be hopeful if I draw against one of the other two and
- 31:39then I defeat against one of the two, that would be my outcomes.
- 31:42Yeah, I think the goal has to be a point in one of those two
- 31:45games, obviously, but I think I'm honestly more optimistic
- 31:48about getting a result against Brazil than Morocco.
- 31:52I think Morocco look really, really good.
- 31:53I think Brazil are not the team that they once were.
- 31:58Obviously everyone fears them. They're they're the team that's
- 32:01one of the most World Cups in history with five.
- 32:04But obviously they've got the individual players like
- 32:08Vanessa's junior, all these players, but they're not working
- 32:11well as a team, I don't think. Obviously, I think people forget
- 32:15that going into the last World Cup, they were massive favorites
- 32:17as well. And then they had that massive
- 32:20collapse against Croatia in the quarterfinals.
- 32:22Yeah, Neymar scored an extra time, looked like they were
- 32:25going through Sale, and then they had that collapse.
- 32:29Yeah, obviously Carlo Angela is their coach now, relatively new.
- 32:34He spoke about the draw, said Scotland's a good team and it's
- 32:36going to be tough. Yeah.
- 32:38And to Steve Clark. See you soon.
- 32:40Yeah. I think Carl Angelotti and Steve
- 32:42Clark are eerily similar with how little emotion they show.
- 32:46But yeah, I think I think it's not the same team as France 98
- 32:49with, you know, R9, all those players.
- 32:52So I think we obviously we're not going to be confident going
- 32:55into the Brazil game, but I think we have to be optimistic
- 33:00at least to, to, to be on the front foot or, or get a point.
- 33:07I think, I think we can and I think like you said, four points
- 33:11is the is the goal. 4 points will guarantee through.
- 33:15Now with all the 3rd place teams, 8 out of 12 going through
- 33:18three points, you've got a fighting chance and it'll govern
- 33:20that the goal difference. And like we said, we're not the
- 33:23type of team that will beat IT or Haiti 6 nil.
- 33:26So yeah, we've got it in for four points.
- 33:29I think him just to touch on the Brazil thing, that that thing
- 33:32about Angelotti, I think getting Angela in with obviously always
- 33:37accolades, I think like he's a big factor in helping Brazil get
- 33:41as far as they can get. I don't for any.
- 33:44There's nothing in my mind telling me that they'll want it.
- 33:46They're not. I'm not even sure how far down
- 33:49the road they'll get with the tournament.
- 33:50But as far as they get, I think it'll be more down there how
- 33:53Angela is sets them up, but they do not like I'd go as far to see
- 33:56like we're more organized. We're more that team than Brazil
- 33:59at the moment. And obviously man for man
- 34:01quality and all that, obviously we're not we're not necessarily
- 34:04near them in certain aspects of the team.
- 34:06But like, yeah, like Morocco are far more well drilled, far more
- 34:11organized, far more used to like again, that one in mentality one
- 34:15in every single game and playing for each other.
- 34:17And whereas Brazil, there's always seems to be problems with
- 34:20them. There's always issues where they
- 34:22got a star player like a Neymar, whoever then falls off the wagon
- 34:25somehow, either off the field or just, you know, former club.
- 34:28Like you said, even off the field it's like.
- 34:30You don't hear anything. I don't like it.
- 34:32At all time I. Don't like it, mad at Rangers.
- 34:35You could argue with A1 like that, but you know what I mean?
- 34:37Generally speaking, you never hear that a bit like a Moroccan
- 34:40player or a Moroccan team. Again, it's they're a bit more
- 34:43like Scotland that they feel a bit more like a club, they feel
- 34:45more organized and they know you know what you're going to get
- 34:48from them. But equally that's still a big
- 34:50problem because they're really good at what they do.
- 34:52And I think I took a couple of things there.
- 34:54But Brazil, you mate, again, you could shoot me down if they've
- 34:56been putting away somewhere and that's no Brazil.
- 34:59But I think then the Cup America that will be in the
- 35:03quarterfinals finished 5th and qualifying in the World Cup for
- 35:06the World Cup qualifiers to finish 5th.
- 35:09And they haven't won outside the Brazil in the last four
- 35:11competitive games. So the last thing they won at
- 35:13home was against Chile in October last year.
- 35:16And then when you look at the actual, when you look at the
- 35:18actual, you know, it's like a league table in South America.
- 35:22The 18 drew 4, lost six, and they only got eight points out
- 35:26of 27 on the road. So again, it makes you wonder if
- 35:30they're again, not putting them in Brazil and more so not put
- 35:33them in their continent. It'll be a challenge for them.
- 35:37So yeah, I'm kind of like you. I'm more worried about Morocco
- 35:41than Brazil, but equally feel like there's a point to be hard
- 35:45at least one of them or you know, but please be to God that
- 35:49we got a one off one of them. That would be even better.
- 35:51But yeah, well. I mean, that happens with what
- 35:54you're saying about being more worried that Brock Morocco than
- 35:56Brazil. I agree with that, but not
- 35:58because I don't, you know, I don't see a threat and like in
- 36:02Morocco or whatever. It's more because Morocco are
- 36:04the Part 2 side if we are to achieve something, they're
- 36:07probably the most like, they're like the most likely side that
- 36:10we should be taking points from that's not below us.
- 36:11And I mean, it's not going to like Brazil.
- 36:13It could be Brazil, but statistically the chances are
- 36:17lower. And again, people keep saying
- 36:22the Brazil. I mean, I've got a French friend
- 36:24as soon as the jockey might even or Brazil even, they're not the
- 36:26country they want to wear. And I was like, yeah, but that
- 36:28sentence means. Stole Brazil the way.
- 36:31That sentence means something else that Frenchman than it does
- 36:33to Scotsman. There's not been the country
- 36:36they wear or came about and Bapi's going to take them to
- 36:38town, not been what they want to wear when Comedy and McGann are
- 36:42going to need to have the game in their lives.
- 36:43And maybe, you know, and you know, and it's good.
- 36:45Like we said, it's last game. Obviously we're coming down into
- 36:49Miami for that one at the Hard Rock Stadium, 65,000 capacity.
- 36:54So good opportunity for the Tartan, our male best seller.
- 36:56Similar allocation to what we had up in Boston.
- 37:00And then you've also got the Elemental.
- 37:01Pricier, slightly pricier. I might just slightly pricier.
- 37:04And then unfortunately officer Brazil resale, there's been more
- 37:08tech is in demand for a game where Brazil was involved.
- 37:11I do think the thinking behind being in Miami was because, and
- 37:16someone could pick me up on us if I'm wrong, but I think
- 37:18there's some stronger Latin American influence in Miami.
- 37:22And I don't mean Mexican, I mean Latin like Argentine and yeah.
- 37:28So I think I mean it could be a good atmosphere not respecting
- 37:31and be a really nice one for Tartan Army.
- 37:33Game kicks off 6:00 PM local time.
- 37:36So yeah, in the. UK.
- 37:39Yeah. Yeah, we can.
- 37:41We can touch on times as well. Obviously the the Haiti game,
- 37:442:00 AM UK time. Hopefully pubs will get special
- 37:49licenses in Scotland to stay out, to stay open longer.
- 37:53Have to. Obviously, yeah, Friday night as
- 37:55well. Like we can't get away.
- 37:57Saturday night will be is it game Friday?
- 37:59I'm gonna go mental. So no, the game's on Saturday in
- 38:02the US, so it'll be a Saturday night in the UK.
- 38:06So yeah, obviously is a lot stricter alcohol laws in in
- 38:10Scotland and England. England has already said that
- 38:13they'll open pubs as long as they need to, so hopefully the
- 38:16same happens in Scotland. But yeah, I'll.
- 38:18Just get to train a Newcastle and.
- 38:21I was going to say they opened them as long as he needed to in
- 38:23Scotland with this shot. They'd just be ruling right for
- 38:25the next day. 24 hour pubs. But I mean, yeah, come back down
- 38:29to Miami, Brazil game, like I said, I mean, in terms of the
- 38:33players, it's not when you've looked at Brazil squads in the
- 38:37past that really have been some fearsome names.
- 38:40They're like just stacked with quali.
- 38:42Vinicus Junior, probably the biggest, and Rufina, you know,
- 38:46Venekas from Venetius, even from Real Madrid, Rafina, former
- 38:51Leeds player. But now Barcelona didn't very
- 38:53well. It was a band or nominee along
- 38:55with Mctomini. So sort of quality we're up
- 38:57against here. Yeah, there's a couple of other
- 39:00games names that people may or may not be be familiar with,
- 39:04depending on how much. What European football, Rodrigo,
- 39:07Real Madrid, you want marking yours?
- 39:09PSG captain, I think he's Brazil captain as well.
- 39:12Mellitao very strong defender, playing is Real Madrid.
- 39:16He's broadcasting the Rebecca and straight away as well.
- 39:18Cast me know, Yeah, Notice he played last game over to start
- 39:21Manchester United along with Kenya.
- 39:23I don't know if I mentioned it already.
- 39:25And then there's him and I at Newcastle.
- 39:27Very good midfielder. And then name the quiet I was.
- 39:32It's the vowel. Yeah, Chelsea.
- 39:34Yeah, Chelsea, 18 years old, looking really good and you
- 39:38know. Brazilian Ben Doak.
- 39:40Well then, well then, let's grab.
- 39:42That you say that, not me. No, but he's he said that you
- 39:47know, he won't take a player where he cannot start any of the
- 39:51three games, which is which was directly aimed at Neymar,
- 39:55obviously. So Neymar maybe not at the World
- 39:59Cup, That's probably. It's slightly beneficial to
- 40:02Scotland, doesn't really make a difference obviously with their
- 40:05wingers being so strong and him probably not starting.
- 40:07He he's been injured a lot for Santos played through engine to
- 40:11try and help him play with injury.
- 40:13Yeah. Avoid relegation.
- 40:15He got hat trick in the decisive game if they were going to get
- 40:18really good or not, but obviously that could do long
- 40:20term damage. So yeah, might not see Neymar at
- 40:23the World Cup. Obviously do take a lot of
- 40:25players from the Brazilian leagues, obviously Flamengo,
- 40:27Corinthians, Mayer asks where where Hendrick came from.
- 40:30He's been a bit of a disappointment of late.
- 40:32But yeah, they've got an extremely strong squadron paper.
- 40:37But like I said previously, they've not really clipped as a
- 40:41team so long. May that continue.
- 40:44I'm just looking at that. You remember I said that Brazil,
- 40:46Senegal game earlier on just I know that was in Wembley.
- 40:49I think there was a few big cutters in that game.
- 40:50So they're starting 11 for that game was Ederson, Edemilito,
- 40:54Martinios, Gabriel, Alexandro, Casamiro, Gamiraish, Estevo,
- 40:59Vene, Kunya and Rodrigo. So yeah, that's a.
- 41:03Fucking great team. I mean, that's that's their but
- 41:08again, that's that's their team that's finished fifth in the
- 41:10qualifiers. So again, the other point to
- 41:12make on that as well as like still shows how strong a
- 41:15continent that is that four other teams are finished ahead
- 41:17of result. Now I know the obviously the
- 41:19different coach, like you said, Kasmir will come back and but
- 41:23it's still like there's still a team where it's like, yeah, I
- 41:25know every single player and the team pretty much even even even
- 41:28the the sort of state they would deem that in themselves compared
- 41:31to teams gone by. We still know like all the
- 41:34players, we still know that all like world class.
- 41:36So yeah, it's. I'll caveat one thing you're
- 41:40saying. That you're on the same time.
- 41:42All right. What's that?
- 41:43I'll caveat one thing. You're saying the 5th place
- 41:46possession was actually joined with four other teams on 28
- 41:51points. So but at the same time they
- 41:54were 10 points Argent off Argentina.
- 41:57And that's that's probably the bigger thing than the fact they
- 42:01were theft because they could have if it's packed up another
- 42:04two points, they've been second, but it's the gap between them
- 42:08and Argentina which is where they're so often measured.
- 42:11That's. On the road, that's on the road,
- 42:13like Adam said, where they're so per, especially in the
- 42:16second-half of the campaign where they were really
- 42:19struggling to get a win on the road like like Adam said.
- 42:22So yeah, hopefully that can continue.
- 42:25I think it'll be interesting to see what happens in their first
- 42:29game against Morocco because that'll really set the landscape
- 42:32for the the group and where we can say where we can finish.
- 42:35Obviously we're not going to do, you know, like England have done
- 42:39in their coverage and the Scotland's possible route to the
- 42:42final. But I thought.
- 42:43I was well keen for that. I was well done for that.
- 42:46Everything can do it. Why let's, you know, have a 5
- 42:48fun where I'm seeing Scotland play, I'm seeing Scotland play
- 42:51England and all these paths by the way people seem to be
- 42:53expecting us to do yes. So the the projected thing.
- 42:57So if if we finish second in our group, then we will. 1st in
- 43:03Group F. We'll get first in Group F,
- 43:05which is the Netherlands grip I think.
- 43:07Which Japan, Tunisia and then the four potential piece of
- 43:14yeah, which? Is Ukraine.
- 43:15No Ukraine. Yeah, you're right, Ukraine.
- 43:18Ukraine, Sweden, Albania and Poland.
- 43:21OK. So yeah, if we finish second, we
- 43:23get top of that group. If we finish first, then we get
- 43:26second in that group. And then if we finish third,
- 43:30then we can get a host of countries.
- 43:32But the most likely because of complicated algorithms that I'm
- 43:36not smart enough to work out we'd we'd face first in Group A,
- 43:41which is Mexico, South Africa, South Korea and the winner of US
- 43:46playoff D, which is North Macedonia, Denmark, Bosnia and
- 43:53Ireland. I think if I'm right into that,
- 43:56I can't quite remember. That's off the top of my head,
- 43:59which I'm. Yeah.
- 44:00OK. Denmark, N Macedonia, Czechia
- 44:03and Ireland. There we go.
- 44:05That's right. Yeah, I'd.
- 44:06Fancy as I get. I think that's probably better
- 44:08than if we finish first or second and that would be in
- 44:12Mexico that round the 32. And then if we were in that
- 44:15path, then around A16 fixture would likely be the winner of
- 44:21England versus Senegal. So I'd take that.
- 44:25It's mapped. All the way to the final fin.
- 44:28That's as far as I looked. And then when I got, yeah, when
- 44:30they were doing the the survey poll and they were saying, oh,
- 44:32are you planning to attend this match?
- 44:34And it got to quarterfinal. I was like.
- 44:40I'm going to put up to around the 16.
- 44:41I've got faith. That's what I did.
- 44:43I put round the 16 I mean. My joke was when my joke I did
- 44:47see on Twitter, but it was when I was joking me guys, when we
- 44:50drew Brazil went, Oh no, we've drawn first World Cup in nearly
- 44:5430 years and we've got to play Brazil twice.
- 44:57The female mates went Brazil, what do you play Brazil twice?
- 44:59I was like, well, once in a grip and then we'll meet them again.
- 45:02Yeah, that's what they're saying on the broadcast.
- 45:05So. Yeah.
- 45:07Yeah, it was, that was, it was someone.
- 45:09It was on some. Yeah.
- 45:12But yeah, I mean it like, I mean, overall the group falls in
- 45:15a really favorable order for us. I think a win against Haiti is
- 45:18not beyond us for sure. Anything can happen against
- 45:21Morocco. And you don't know what's
- 45:22happened in the first game between Brazil and Morocco
- 45:24either. I don't think you could actually
- 45:25call that. So going into the final game
- 45:28against Brazil, it could be a situation where they really need
- 45:30something, you know, and anything can happen in these
- 45:34games and I think ideally. They've won and then the rest
- 45:37and all the players. I mean, order, order, you know,
- 45:41I mean order. There could be a situation where
- 45:43they're desperate for one. And, you know, it's hard.
- 45:45It was hard for us as Denmark because they knew we need to win
- 45:48for that reason. Yeah, You know, we could quite
- 45:50make it hard for Brazil. And I think I'd like to hold
- 45:53because, yeah, I've always, I've just always got faith.
- 45:56And Scotland point to the best I can.
- 45:58And I think we've all seen us play some really good football
- 46:00when we've been on top form recently.
- 46:01I mean, we played Geese and Athens.
- 46:03Most of the the first half was poor, but those points in the
- 46:06second-half where we played really good football and you
- 46:10know, we just couldn't quite find that finishing touch the
- 46:12seas little moments we keep producing.
- 46:14That kind of gives me faith to think, you know, could we
- 46:16achieve something. You know, the last two EUR first
- 46:19one back, we kind of rolled that off as, you know, experience.
- 46:22It would have been nice to do well but never went.
- 46:24The baby water then went to Euro 24.
- 46:26There was disappointment in the Germany game.
- 46:28We kind of shot ourselves in the foot against Switzerland with
- 46:31the past that let Shakira score and then in the game we had.
- 46:35Sorry. In the game that in the game
- 46:38that we had to win hungry then capitalized on, you know, either
- 46:43way, I just said that, you know, Brazil would maybe have to do
- 46:45against us. I just, I just feel would would
- 46:49you a couple of performances from Scotland.
- 46:52I've seen a couple of things online about, oh, you know, it's
- 46:54good to be there. Well, if it's going to be a blah
- 46:56blah, let's get stuck in, let's go and achieve something.
- 46:58I really want to see Scotland take something from these games,
- 47:02get the winning and say and kick on.
- 47:04So yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, that's my overall, that's what I
- 47:08want from the team. And we've got 2 warm up games
- 47:11while friendlies March that you said potential Argentina there
- 47:14maybe an African country. And there'll be two matches just
- 47:18before the World Cup starts in June.
- 47:21Hopefully one of them has a hand and send off.
- 47:24I would begin to see yeah, send the boys on their way before we
- 47:28all catch our flights as well. And yeah, it's just, you know,
- 47:32it should be. It feels real now.
- 47:35It really feels real now. And forget, like said, fun for
- 47:37me guys, mine and your age. It's, you know, it's just what I
- 47:41feel special. Yeah.
- 47:42It's it's, you know. I don't want to, I wish my life
- 47:45away but obviously it's it's now just a countdown until then.
- 47:49Yeah, I'm. Sure.
- 47:50The league season I'm not even thinking about.
- 47:52Obviously as an Aberdeen fan, it's looking on the app.
- 47:54I think we can, yeah, maybe touch on the the Hearts game
- 47:57now. Yeah.
- 47:58Let's move on to that a little bit just quick because we've got
- 48:00Adam on and I think unfortunately we had we talked
- 48:06we spoke a little bit at the start a bit how heart we don't
- 48:10we don't want to say the bubble worst because you know, some
- 48:12people are saying what bubble? You know, it's you know, hard
- 48:14just been playing well. I.
- 48:15Think that was me. Yeah, but you know, they had
- 48:18their wobble form, depth, but they had an opportunity to
- 48:22rectify that safety park on Sunday, very rainy day.
- 48:27It was nonsense. First game as Celtic manager
- 48:30said he didn't want to change too much.
- 48:31But I think a lot of Celtic fans personally dead and it didn't
- 48:35work out from from your perspective, parts obviously
- 48:38been an absolute shift and they came away with three points.
- 48:42Yeah, absolutely delayed with the result.
- 48:44And I actually thought the moment I thought we had that
- 48:47actual chance at Barcade was the moment they said that Martini
- 48:49was stepping down after that midweek game.
- 48:51And to be honest, like I stole as another off field decision
- 48:57made by a Celtic board that's just like inept to be honest.
- 48:59Like I think Celtic Rangers taking turns for who's got the
- 49:02worst board at the moment and that's obviously fallen in our
- 49:05favour based on the table, right.
- 49:08Yeah, well, obviously tell man like they played really well.
- 49:11It's a completely different game for the one I think Castle, as
- 49:13you'd expect, obviously a bit more on the back foot, bit of a
- 49:16different system where to play. Obviously missing Bengami as
- 49:20well, which has been part of the supposed downfall and the games
- 49:24we have not managed to get ones recently.
- 49:28But yeah, it's one of the games where you talk about a player
- 49:31and another player and another one used.
- 49:33Obviously start to realize that it's just.
- 49:34Everybody done really well that day.
- 49:37I mean, could highlight key ones that would highlight probably
- 49:41dev one again, like most harsh functionalities.
- 49:44Probably our player of the year so far this game a lot from our
- 49:50from our standpoint of with the ball, which I think even our old
- 49:55nemesis Scott Brown talked about him in such a way as well said
- 49:58he's always loved his tenacity and stuff, but just how he
- 50:00didn't taste games. Now it's actually on the ball,
- 50:02happy with the ball. It actually doesn't misplace as
- 50:04many passes isn't as reckless as used to be.
- 50:07Once more fouls. So it's just everywhere.
- 50:10But yeah, I'll get known. Yeah, market, he said that
- 50:15really good. But yeah, I think there's.
- 50:17Just a hard to go for marketeer. Was that the second one?
- 50:20The header? Yeah.
- 50:21Yeah. That was an absolute blinder
- 50:24ahead of that one. And then, you know, he's really
- 50:26reaching for that. Even the first one, like Braga
- 50:29school, everyone thought it was off site.
- 50:30Celtic practically just stop playing and then obviously
- 50:32Braga. So did.
- 50:34So did Braga for a minute. That was such a strange.
- 50:36Goal Tom say he was on site because obviously the guy came
- 50:39back on the patch for the byline.
- 50:41Yeah, yes, yeah, really great one pushes 3 points ahead.
- 50:48Celtic obviously got keep my hands but yet to go back to my
- 50:51point and start like I think it a lot of it is down really just
- 50:53that that little bit of a change for Nancy also want to bat his
- 50:58favorite system very much instantly even though they just
- 51:01take a session on the Friday. But regardless, like are the
- 51:03following win, lose or draw for us in that game still follows a
- 51:07mad decision for Celtic managers who are the fans love and who's
- 51:11was getting results and cut the deficit to nothing.
- 51:14And for this game like that it was heavily staked for Celtic
- 51:17doing that if he was in charge. It's just he's a mentality
- 51:21animal as well. Like he's my management is an
- 51:23experience that will get Celtic over the line and has been
- 51:26getting online. But it's clear and obvious that
- 51:28they've not got the personnel that they should have.
- 51:32And now they have a manager that it comes again with potential
- 51:37like what role does for Rangers instead of like, like a
- 51:40guaranteed, like, you know what you're getting from 1 character.
- 51:44And so, yeah, we'll also see what comes from Nancy going
- 51:47forward. But obviously, like McInnes
- 51:49pointed out for the starts, just about every week that comes just
- 51:54obviously looking at beat whoever's in front of us.
- 51:55And obviously the longer up then the longer it goes on, the more
- 52:00likelihood that they start believing they've got a chance
- 52:04to win on it. But yeah, I've never, I've never
- 52:09believed it. We're definitely going to win
- 52:13it. We are going to win it.
- 52:14We're in a title race. I've never said that either.
- 52:17Bubbles a meth. So like what will be will be.
- 52:22Yeah, I think it was like you said it was a mad decision with
- 52:24two massive games obviously that Hearts 1 and then the the League
- 52:28Cup final against St. Mirren, the first time since
- 52:321980 five 1986 season where Hearts have won at Celtic Park
- 52:37and Ibrox in the same season. So that's massive obviously beat
- 52:40Celtic twice now and still a game to go and then another one
- 52:45in the split. Well, for Nancy yet tough.
- 52:50His finest hour, little reference that Claudio Braga
- 52:53chant and he had, he had a quote after the game saying I'm not
- 52:57worried about losing or winning, I'm worried about having good
- 53:01performances. A lot of Celtic fans didn't like
- 53:03it, a lot of them didn't care. Performance either so.
- 53:06No, I know he got neither. A lot was made of them.
- 53:09I don't know if you guys have seen it, I know you have had
- 53:12them, but a lot was made of nonsense, putting, pulling out
- 53:18the tactics board. He got a lot of stick from it
- 53:21across social media. Very Russell Martin esque, I
- 53:25mean. What are your thoughts on it?
- 53:26I personally have nothing wrong with it I think.
- 53:29I don't think anything's wrong. I think it looks silly.
- 53:32Yeah, I think it looks. Silly when they lose.
- 53:34When they win, he gets his plaudits like.
- 53:38Also I will say one thing they could packed up on the tailor
- 53:40was the fact that the Celtic players were blue on it.
- 53:42I'm sure. Yeah, yeah.
- 53:44So. I think to be honest, like the
- 53:46tactic wars, like for people like me, all the sun social
- 53:49media, it gives us our momentous and something like this like fed
- 53:53to Celtic fans, whoever as they'll jump on me the moment,
- 53:56you know, hearts are losing points, call me out for whatever
- 53:59I've said. It just gives me an opportunity
- 54:00to sort of throw one back. But yeah, generally speaking,
- 54:03like a manager getting out of tactics board, you know, it's
- 54:05like it's like like I don't like a policeman have in handcuffs.
- 54:09You know what I mean? Like it's not something you
- 54:11would. I'm going to be like, I can't
- 54:12believe they've got a tactics board.
- 54:14But like, I think the funnier one was that was it Paul test
- 54:18deal. Having a nap like halfway
- 54:20through the game when the camera cut to him.
- 54:22Is it Paul? Is that his name?
- 54:23Paul, I've not even seen it. Oh, I did see that.
- 54:25Yeah. Yeah.
- 54:25One of the. Is that the Celtic?
- 54:26Directory football or something? Yeah, so they basically cut to
- 54:30the camera like live and he was like having some shot eye for
- 54:33about 10 seconds and he's like head the recruitment.
- 54:36So obviously again, it was given people like Amway for for
- 54:39obviously all the all the wrong reasons.
- 54:41And that was at 2 nil as well. Cursory just had a chance to
- 54:44make a three nil at one point. That's where I go.
- 54:46Yeah. So like, you know what, they're
- 54:48all helping themselves and they're just people keep going
- 54:51up. It's giving us like a this whole
- 54:53you're not going to have a better opportunity.
- 54:55And it may be right to be honest.
- 54:57But like for us, it's probably came out a wee bit too soon in
- 55:02terms of expectation. But the expectation is more
- 55:05coming on the fact how bad deal for them are.
- 55:08Not to politically play a stone, obviously.
- 55:11You know, for that amazing start and it's we're nearly halfway
- 55:13through now, but like it's still heavily to do with how poor they
- 55:16are. And they surely, I think
- 55:19numerous pundits have said that they can't have as bad a windows
- 55:22as you've started looking cannot be possible.
- 55:24And it'll just be interesting to see obviously what we do
- 55:27ourselves and it makes it interesting, right.
- 55:30The longer it goes on, the more it becomes interesting, the more
- 55:32football point comes on the power game and domestically,
- 55:35which can only be good for for, you know, the financial reasons
- 55:38and and whatnot. So yeah, long may continue.
- 55:42Because I mean, as long as Hearts can, I don't think by
- 55:46saying Celtic could have an extra 5 points on the board if
- 55:48they're playing better. And I don't think Hearts would
- 55:50be getting the same heat they're currently again if they were
- 55:53chasing Celtic. And I think as long as Hearts
- 55:56just keep themselves ahead, the longer this will go on.
- 56:00But I mean, like you said, is is a glorious opportunity for you
- 56:03because I don't. Think it'll be that much longer
- 56:05if they can't win against Kilmarnock though.
- 56:07True, sorry, had to get it. Obviously four games before the
- 56:11Celtic game they didn't get a win so it's strange I think.
- 56:15Yeah, I mean, you weren't. Awful.
- 56:17You weren't awful in those games, but I think it was just
- 56:20the big moments where 91st minute, you can see it against
- 56:25Kilmarack at home. Those are the big moments where
- 56:27if you're trying to go for the title, I think you need to be
- 56:29winning those games. But on the flip side, Celtics
- 56:31lost three league games already and then the season gone by
- 56:34they've they've lost 3 the whole season so.
- 56:37Yeah, I think like if you look at the way of like a lot of the
- 56:40reasons people are jumping on us for everything, any point we
- 56:43drop is this whole that you can't do this, you can't do
- 56:45that. So I think like it feels very
- 56:46much like as we went off at the games, they're telling us we're
- 56:49going to the league. There's never nobody's ever had
- 56:52to do that to the enemy. So like I think I think it's
- 56:56more that like the reputation of the teams that we're up against
- 56:59and equally our own reputation of, you know, I think like the
- 57:03two other teams we've been closest has been, strangely
- 57:06enough, 20 years apart. So 86 last day of the season,
- 57:102006 on the runoff and no will be 2026 for forever reason.
- 57:14We keep the every 20 years, but like so they'll farmer there
- 57:17every year. Well, barfy Rangers in there
- 57:21financial problems, but like, you know what I mean?
- 57:23Reputationally, people know come April May, they'll still be
- 57:26there. And whereas I think people are
- 57:28jumping fat delay. If hearts drop points, they'll
- 57:30fall away like other teams have in the past.
- 57:33And it's us trying to sort of beat that drum of like Tony
- 57:36Bloom's just and Jamestown just and This Is Us like and proven
- 57:41and and it's it's looking like we're maybe a flash in the pan.
- 57:45But our actual expectations is that we want to be up in the
- 57:49positions nearly every year. How how close we are every year.
- 57:53Nobody obviously will not we can't see in the future.
- 57:55But like that's that's Tony Bloomsey.
- 57:58So like it's just because it's half it straight away.
- 58:01People are, you know, wants to be there.
- 58:03They're just kidding to jump on at the moment.
- 58:04Any points are dropped but they aren't as keen to jump on go
- 58:07from if it happens to them because they think, well,
- 58:09they're going to be back anyway, so always.
- 58:11Well, well, maybe you'll have about a really bad 1A forum and
- 58:15you'll keep up the relegation every six year that you've been
- 58:18currently having 2014 relegated, 2020 relegated and you're due
- 58:22one now in 2026 like you said. That'll be a challenge.
- 58:27Yeah. I mean, to be fair, like you
- 58:29said though, it is about the expectations entirely at Hearts
- 58:33and the fan base. And I've spoke to a few jambles
- 58:36and like yourself, they have kept the feet on the ground and
- 58:40said, you know, this is not about when the tail for Celtic
- 58:42gates, this was Celtic gates. That what we want to do is try
- 58:45and put a healthy number of points on the board that will
- 58:48help, you know, whether even if Rangers packed up form and you
- 58:51know, we ended up third if we are strong, third, if we're
- 58:54getting close to 2nd, 3rd, you know, that's progress and that's
- 58:58something that can be measured and improved on year on year and
- 59:01get you that point. It just wouldn't be like you
- 59:05said, I don't find a bit of pressure and the sort of pokes,
- 59:09you know, coming in the jibes coming in from other teams as
- 59:11much if the old farm hadn't both completely collapsed in the same
- 59:14season. Like that's just, you know,
- 59:16we're in prey unfamiliar territory here.
- 59:19But I mean, we'll see how it goes, but we'll be talking about
- 59:22a lot and imagine because we're about to domestic football for
- 59:25quite a while now, sadly, no Scotland talk until whether we
- 59:29play Scott and talk, but nothing concrete to talk about until
- 59:33March apart from maybe ticket prices and other things.
- 59:35But I'm sure we'll bring all that to you on the socials and
- 59:38maybe on the pod as well. But I think we'll wrap up there,
- 59:40boys. Thanks very much for both Coming
- 59:42on. It's been in our great episode.
- 59:44Excitement continues to build for Scotland.
- 59:46Like I say, and hopefully over the mums we'll be able to bring
- 59:48you other little snippets, get guests or even We've already
- 59:51started trying to hunt down Moroccan Arizalian accounts.
- 59:55I don't know how we're. We're going to get.
- 59:57Even I'm even allowed to speak to any Haitian people.
- 1:00:01Yeah, I don't know. I can't.
- 1:00:03I'll leave that off my visa application for my ticket.
- 1:00:06We mark that one. Yeah, we've we've got a Brazil
- 1:00:10English speaking Brazilian podcast lined up.
- 1:00:12So we'll have all the the previews ready for you and maybe
- 1:00:16a wee sneaky documentary that is in the works.
- 1:00:19Like that I would say. Once again, thank you for coming
- 1:00:21on. Fun being good to have you on
- 1:00:23again Adam. Good to hear you mate.
- 1:00:26Hopefully, hopefully next time that the title race is still
- 1:00:30alive and kicking when we chat. Hopefully it's not so.
- 1:00:33No, but hopefully there'll be two.
- 1:00:34On to the next pod then. We'll still be in it in some
- 1:00:35shape or form, just literally. But yeah, we'll see how it goes.
- 1:00:41Perfect, perfect then catch you later mate.
- 1:00:45Thanks for listening guys, take care.