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- 0:09Whooping cough is particularly
- 0:11dangerous to infants and young
- 0:12children, and it's a growing concern
- 0:14here in Austin and across Texas.
- 0:17Austin's local health authority
- 0:18continues to report cases, as
- 0:20does the state's Department of
- 0:21Health Services.
- 0:22We're going to hear more about the
- 0:23local and statewide numbers.
- 0:25Plus, Texas teens face more barriers
- 0:27to getting an abortion than other
- 0:29age groups after the state six-week
- 0:31abortion ban went into effect in
- 0:332021.
- 0:34The findings of a new study that
- 0:35looks at the impact on Texas and its
- 0:37surrounding states.
- 0:38That's coming up.
- 0:40The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:42of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:44Jerry Quijano.
- 0:45And there's a new book out that
- 0:46captures this moment in time in
- 0:48Austin's music scene.
- 0:49We're going to chat with a couple of
- 0:51the folks behind that effort.
- 0:53That is up next.
- 0:54And it's right here on Austin
- 0:56Signal.
- 1:08Thank you for tuning in out there.
- 1:10This is Austin Signal.
- 1:12I'm Jerry Quijano.
- 1:13It's Monday the 17th, already
- 1:15more than halfway through November,
- 1:17nearly the end of 2025.
- 1:20Thank you spending part of your day
- 1:22here with us.
- 1:24A quick check in with the KUT
- 1:25newsroom.
- 1:26The Austin Independent School
- 1:27District made some changes to
- 1:29programming and student
- 1:30reassignments in the final
- 1:32version of a school consolidation
- 1:33plan that was released late last
- 1:35Friday.
- 1:3610 schools are still set to close
- 1:38before next school year.
- 1:40Superintendent Matias Segura says
- 1:42the revised plan reassigns just
- 1:44short of 4,000 students
- 1:46and eliminates more than 6,300
- 1:49empty seats from the district, a
- 1:51district that has been seeing
- 1:52declining enrollment over
- 1:54the last decade.
- 1:55That plan is expected to help save
- 1:57more than $20 million.
- 1:59The AISD Board of Trustees is
- 2:02set to vote on the plan this
- 2:03Thursday, along with the turnaround
- 2:05plans. For two dozen
- 2:07schools.
- 2:09Whooping cough is a growing problem
- 2:11here in the Austin area.
- 2:12Whooping Cough or Pertussis cases
- 2:14continue to be confirmed by Austin
- 2:16Public Health, and it's not just
- 2:18happening locally.
- 2:20The Texas Department of State Health
- 2:21Services reports a surge statewide.
- 2:24Texas has seen 3,500 cases
- 2:26through October of this year.
- 2:28That is approximately four times
- 2:30more than there were reported during
- 2:31the same period last year.
- 2:33More than 10 times the case is
- 2:35reported in the same period two
- 2:37years ago.
- 2:38Here to talk about this more is
- 2:39KUT's healthcare reporter Olivia
- 2:41Aldridge. Olivia, thanks for being
- 2:43with us.
- 2:44Hi, Jerry.
- 2:44So do officials have any idea
- 2:46why we're experiencing and seeing
- 2:48this uptick in cases?
- 2:51Well, vaccination rates for whooping
- 2:52cough are down, and it's a very
- 2:54contagious illness, so it'll spread
- 2:56more if fewer people are vaccinated.
- 2:58And that's why the state health
- 3:00department is really urging parents
- 3:01to make sure that their kids get the
- 3:03Tdap vaccine.
- 3:05That also protects against tetanus
- 3:07and diphtheria.
- 3:08And for adults to look into
- 3:10a booster, if they are around
- 3:12people who are vulnerable to
- 3:13whooping-cough, that includes
- 3:15infants, pregnant women, and
- 3:17anyone who's immunocompromised,
- 3:19You mentioned that Tdap vaccine.
- 3:21Austin Public Health expects that
- 3:22there were several cases that passed
- 3:24around at Austin school campuses,
- 3:26but the whooping cough vaccine,
- 3:28that T-dap, it's required for
- 3:30schools, is it not?
- 3:32Yeah, kids are technically required
- 3:34in Texas to get a Tdap vaccine
- 3:36before starting school, but
- 3:38fewer people are actually getting
- 3:40it. So in Austin ISD specifically,
- 3:43just 74% of kindergartners
- 3:45were up to date on that shot during
- 3:47the 2024, 25 school
- 3:49year, around 85%
- 3:51among seventh graders.
- 3:53In Texas, you can get a
- 3:54conscientious exemption for required
- 3:56vaccines like this, but the data
- 3:58also shows us that locally,
- 4:00not all of these kids actually have
- 4:02those exemptions on file and
- 4:05rates for pretty much all vaccines
- 4:07have been slipping since COVID.
- 4:10For a story I did earlier this year
- 4:12that was more focused on measles
- 4:13vaccination rates, folks at
- 4:15Austin ISD told me that it's just
- 4:17been. Battle for a number of
- 4:19reasons getting everyone into
- 4:21compliance since that time when
- 4:23things were pretty disrupted.
- 4:25Whooping cough was not something I
- 4:26would heard all that much whenever I
- 4:28was a youth so I'm learning a little
- 4:30bit as we're going around it seems
- 4:31as though it's more dangerous the
- 4:33younger the affected person is
- 4:36who really needs to be most
- 4:38concerned here when it comes to
- 4:39whooping cough.
- 4:40Sure, right? It sounds kind of like
- 4:41an old-timey Victorian illness,
- 4:43doesn't it?
- 4:43It really does it sounds like like a
- 4:45fainting couch or something you need
- 4:46to get fainten couch for your
- 4:47whooping cough or something like
- 4:48that
- 4:49Sure, but it is descriptive,
- 4:51it's, you know, people start off
- 4:52with a little bit of a cold, then
- 4:54they're getting this really serious
- 4:55persistent cough that kind of does
- 4:56have this distinctive whooping sound
- 4:59potentially.
- 5:00It can be pretty mild for many
- 5:02people, but especially for
- 5:04babies under the age of one, it
- 5:06can be pretty dangerous.
- 5:07They can struggle to breathe, they
- 5:09can stop breathing, and
- 5:11again, DSHS says around
- 5:13a third of infants with whooping
- 5:15cough end up hospitalized.
- 5:17We can read more about Olivia's
- 5:19reporting on Whooping Cough over at
- 5:20KUT.org.
- 5:22I want to switch topics to another
- 5:24story that you reported last week,
- 5:26which is that Texans under the age
- 5:28of 18 were disproportionately
- 5:29affected after the state
- 5:31enacted its six-week abortion ban
- 5:33back in 2021.
- 5:35First off, who conducted this study
- 5:36and what time frame were they
- 5:38looking at?
- 5:39So it was published in the American
- 5:41Journal of Public Health, and some
- 5:42of the authors are part of this
- 5:44Texas-based research group called
- 5:46ReSound Research for Reproductive
- 5:47Health.
- 5:48They used to be affiliated with UT
- 5:49Austin.
- 5:50They looked at this time period
- 5:52around when Texas's Senate
- 5:54Bill 8 was passed.
- 5:55That was the approximately six-week
- 5:57abortion ban passed
- 5:59prior to Roe versus Wade being
- 6:01overturned.
- 6:02Of course we now have a more
- 6:03restrictive total ban,
- 6:05but data from this period is
- 6:07interesting to researchers because
- 6:09it's some of the earliest data
- 6:10available on the effects of
- 6:13restrictive abortion bans kind of
- 6:14in this era and
- 6:17can maybe indicate more of
- 6:19what we might be seeing in states
- 6:20across the country now.
- 6:22Well, from reading your reporting at
- 6:24kut.org, I noticed that overall
- 6:26facility-based abortions dropped in
- 6:27Texas, but when it came to patients
- 6:29under 18, they were way down,
- 6:3160% fewer during the
- 6:33time of the study.
- 6:35We're obviously here in Texas so
- 6:36we're worried about that.
- 6:37Did we see that there
- 6:39was an effect on abortion numbers in
- 6:41the states surrounding Texas in the
- 6:43same time period?
- 6:45Yeah.
- 6:45So keep in mind with those
- 6:47statistics you're talking about,
- 6:48there's only six weeks within
- 6:51time frame when people can be
- 6:52getting that procedure when
- 6:54this was the law.
- 6:56But the study's authors also looked
- 6:57at Texans traveling to
- 6:59surrounding states.
- 7:01So it got statistics
- 7:04on the number of Texans who
- 7:05left the state of Texas to six
- 7:07surrounding states to have
- 7:09in clinic abortions
- 7:11there.
- 7:13What they found was that there were
- 7:15a lot more Texans doing that than
- 7:17before, maybe unsurprisingly,
- 7:19but it still didn't compensate for
- 7:21that overall decrease.
- 7:23It really didn't come close.
- 7:24So I think for minors under
- 7:26the age of 18, there was still an
- 7:28overall 26%
- 7:30decrease in the number of abortions
- 7:32they were getting, even if you
- 7:33included those out-of-state
- 7:36numbers.
- 7:37Okay Olivia, we only have about a
- 7:39minute left with you.
- 7:40Were there any other important
- 7:41takeaways that you found from this
- 7:43study?
- 7:44Well, I would note that, you know,
- 7:46as we discuss, laws and trends have
- 7:48changed.
- 7:49The study doesn't factor in
- 7:51telemedicine, for instance, so
- 7:53medication abortion sent by mail
- 7:54from doctors in other states.
- 7:56And we know that that's increasingly
- 7:57common in the US and kind of the
- 7:59post-Roe era.
- 8:01So it's not comprehensive of all the
- 8:03abortions that could have been
- 8:04taking place, but it does show us
- 8:05some interesting trends.
- 8:07All right, we have been speaking
- 8:08with Olivia Aldridge.
- 8:10She is KUT's healthcare reporter,
- 8:12and you can find more of her
- 8:14reporting over at kut.org.
- 8:17Olivia, thank you for talking to us
- 8:18today.
- 8:27And thank you for being with us here
- 8:29on Austin Signal.
- 8:30You can hear us every weekday
- 8:32afternoon at one o'clock on KUT
- 8:34News 90.5 on the
- 8:36KUT app and online at
- 8:38KUT.org.
- 8:40Hope you're having a nice Monday
- 8:42and hey maybe your Monday
- 8:44morning commute seemed smoother
- 8:46than usual and if so
- 8:48you are not imagining that.
- 8:50New research shows that Monday
- 8:52mornings have the fewest traffic
- 8:53delays on average.
- 8:55Compared to rush hour during every
- 8:57other weekday.
- 8:59But as KUT's Nathan Bernier
- 9:01reports, the trend says more about
- 9:03who can skip traffic than
- 9:05how to fix it.
- 9:07Nobody likes to go into the office
- 9:09on Mondays, so for those who can
- 9:11choose which days to commute,
- 9:12they tend to avoid it, and that
- 9:14creates an opportunity for people
- 9:16like Kenna Pierce.
- 9:17She lives in South Austin and works
- 9:19in North Austin.
- 9:20I go to work on Monday and I take 35
- 9:22and the traffic is way less
- 9:24in the morning anyway.
- 9:25On the way home it's always bad.
- 9:27A new report by Texas A&M
- 9:28University's Transportation
- 9:30Institute backs that up.
- 9:31Researchers looked at traffic data
- 9:33in almost 500 cities natio nwide,
- 9:35and a clear trend emerged.
- 9:37Mondays is...
- 9:38Hands down the least
- 9:40congested weekday.
- 9:42David Schrank is a senior research
- 9:43scientist at the Texas A&M
- 9:44Transportation Institute.
- 9:46He's been studying urban mobility
- 9:47for more than 35 years,
- 9:49which is long enough to know that
- 9:50the same thing that makes Mondays
- 9:52smoother, basically people making
- 9:54their own choices about when to go
- 9:55into the office, can also make
- 9:57Mondays way worse.
- 9:59Because you don't know
- 10:01which Monday ever
- 10:04employer in town is going to call
- 10:05their people in you're no one's
- 10:07expecting it. And all of a sudden,
- 10:09wham, everybody's out there trying
- 10:10to use the system at the same time.
- 10:12Or something else happens, like bad
- 10:14weather is forecast on Wednesday, so
- 10:15people decide to go in Monday
- 10:17instead.
- 10:17Of course, not everyone has the
- 10:19luxury of choosing which days to
- 10:21commute, but Austin does have
- 10:23an unusually large number of people
- 10:25who work from home at least one day
- 10:26a week, according to a poll
- 10:27conducted by Moveability Austin.
- 10:30That's an organization whose main
- 10:31purpose is reducing traffic by
- 10:33convincing people not to drive
- 10:34alone.
- 10:35When people are stuck in traffic,
- 10:37they like to think it's the
- 10:38traffic's fault. But actually you
- 10:40are traffic.
- 10:41Lonnie Stern is MoveAbility's
- 10:43executive director.
- 10:44Their Austin area poll found about
- 10:4660% of Travis County
- 10:48respondents worked from home, at
- 10:49least occasionally.
- 10:50For Williamson County, it was 55%.
- 10:53For Hayes County, about 50%.
- 10:55The poll found remote work is an
- 10:57economic privilege.
- 10:58People allowed to work from home
- 11:00tended to have higher incomes,
- 11:02higher education, and were over 35
- 11:04years old.
- 11:05And remote work just is not possible
- 11:07for much of the workforce that's
- 11:08considered essential.
- 11:10Like those in retail, healthcare,
- 11:12construction, or hospita-
- 11:13Work from home isn't going to be
- 11:14a panacea.
- 11:15We find that people who work from
- 11:17home may then take extra
- 11:18trips during those off hours.
- 11:21So that's why we're starting to see
- 11:22the midday traffic spike
- 11:24where it used to be very
- 11:26predictable. Everyone drove in and
- 11:28everyone drove out for the workday.
- 11:30Now they're making all these trips
- 11:32in the middle of the day.
- 11:35Texas A&M's research found the
- 11:37same thing.
- 11:38Another factor is all the extra
- 11:40trips by delivery trucks because
- 11:42of more people shopping online.
- 11:44And more baby boomers have retired
- 11:46and now they're driving around
- 11:47during the middle of the day.
- 11:49So if Monday is the best day
- 11:51to commute, what's the worst day?
- 11:53On average, across all the roads
- 11:55measured in Austin, it was Thursday,
- 11:58especially afternoons between four
- 12:00and six p.m., in Austin anyway.
- 12:03In Houston, Dallas, and San
- 12:05Antonio, Fridays between 4
- 12:07and 5 is still the worst time
- 12:09to be on the roads.
- 12:10I'm Nathan Bernier in Austin.
- 12:22It's Austin Signal, thank you
- 12:24for being with us.
- 12:25We hope your Monday morning
- 12:27and Monday afternoons commute goes
- 12:30smooth.
- 12:31Something that didn't move very
- 12:32smooth this weekend was the Texas
- 12:35football team.
- 12:36They came up short in a road game
- 12:38against Georgia, and joining me
- 12:40now to talk a little more about that
- 12:41is KUT's Jimmy Maas.
- 12:43Howdy, Jimmy.
- 12:44Good afternoon, Jerry.
- 12:45So Jimmy, a final score of the game
- 12:47against Georgia, 35 to 10,
- 12:49seems like a walloping.
- 12:50Was the game any closer than the
- 12:52score indicated?
- 12:53A score not indicative of
- 12:55the game.
- 12:56Although, man, the game and
- 12:58the season really did unravel quite
- 13:00quickly there in the fourth quarter.
- 13:02They were only down four points.
- 13:04Texas, I mean.
- 13:05Georgia was leading by four.
- 13:07And then on the ensuing drive,
- 13:09they had a fourth down, seemingly
- 13:10they stopped Georgia with a little
- 13:12momentum.
- 13:13And then a fake punt.
- 13:15And then four downs later,
- 13:17the costly penalty on another fourth
- 13:19down. And then, a quick touchdown,
- 13:21and then a quick.
- 13:22Onside kick that fooled Texas.
- 13:24It happened very fast.
- 13:25Next thing you know, it is, they're
- 13:2718 points down and they
- 13:29had nowhere to go.
- 13:31There was kind of a junk touchdown
- 13:32at the end, but with
- 13:34that,
- 13:37there were a lot of expectations on
- 13:38this Texas team and I think if you
- 13:40were trying to hold that team to
- 13:41that same standard the pre-season
- 13:43number one, that was a very
- 13:45disappointing game.
- 13:46Absolutely absolutely as like you
- 13:48said preseason number one this team
- 13:50had made the college football
- 13:51playoff two times in a row I'm
- 13:53If you are holding Texas to the
- 13:55standard that is the highest
- 13:57grossing athletic department
- 13:59in division one sports,
- 14:01it is a very disappointing game.
- 14:03If you have some sort of circumspect
- 14:06view that like, well, it's a
- 14:07young team, young quarterback read,
- 14:09you know, it s hard to make the
- 14:10playoffs for three years in a row
- 14:12and it's
- 14:14very even more difficult to come
- 14:16in with those kind of manning sized
- 14:19expectations and live up to them.
- 14:22This season may be right about where
- 14:24you'd expect and it's not over.
- 14:26It's there's still a little.
- 14:28Little bit to play there's a little
- 14:30bit of sliver of hope that the you
- 14:32have a game this weekend against
- 14:33Arkansas here I DKR Arkansas
- 14:35here closing out next Friday against
- 14:37Texas A&M and that
- 14:38That game will determine whether
- 14:40Texas A&M may get into the SEC
- 14:42Championship.
- 14:42That's right, so lots to play for
- 14:44still.
- 14:45That's KUT's Jimmy Maas with a quick
- 14:46update on the Longhorns.
- 14:48Jimmy, thank you. Thank you.
- 14:49And thank you for tuning in to
- 14:50Austin Signal.
- 14:51We will be back in just a moment.
- 14:59You're tuned in to Austin Signal
- 15:01here on KUT News.
- 15:02Thank you for making this part of
- 15:03your Monday.
- 15:05You know that feeling when you wanna
- 15:06look up a favorite old local band
- 15:08or photos from a now shuttered
- 15:10venue, and once you've finally found
- 15:11an archived link that sends you down
- 15:13nostalgia lane, eeeek,
- 15:15a piece of the internet no longer
- 15:17exists.
- 15:18A fantastic alternative to that is
- 15:20a good old fashioned hold it in your
- 15:22hand book, a lasting testament to
- 15:24a sound and to a moment in time.
- 15:27Out now that's putting a new shine
- 15:29on the artist venues and stories
- 15:31right at the heart of our local
- 15:32community music community it's
- 15:34called austin's music scene your
- 15:36guide to the city's most iconic
- 15:37artists and venues and today
- 15:39we're joined by the book's
- 15:40editor-in-chief mitch baronowski and
- 15:42its photo editor david brendan hall
- 15:44uh gentlemen thank you for coming on
- 15:46Austin Signal.
- 15:46Thank you for having us.
- 15:48It's great to be here.
- 15:48Thank you.
- 15:49Well, Mitch, let me start with you.
- 15:51Why did you and your team, you know,
- 15:53why did you want to create this
- 15:53guidebook in the first place?
- 15:55You know, we are a
- 15:57team of fans and
- 15:59journalists and creatives,
- 16:01and we were
- 16:02chatting with the folks at HAM.
- 16:04It's their 20th anniversary at the
- 16:06Health Alliance for Austin
- 16:06Musicians, and wanted to do
- 16:08something special.
- 16:10And we, in taking a look at
- 16:11the landscape, we realized no
- 16:13one's ever really tried a book about
- 16:15the current live music scene.
- 16:17We have so much talent in this town.
- 16:19We've had our history books.
- 16:21We've our biographies
- 16:23and our memoirs.
- 16:24But we haven't had a snapshot of the
- 16:26scene today.
- 16:27And so we really set out to create a
- 16:28love letter, if you will, because
- 16:30let's face it for a lot of
- 16:32musicians, a lot artists, it's
- 16:34a labor of love.
- 16:35And this project was for us a labor
- 16:37love.
- 16:37Yeah, absolutely.
- 16:40I think that one
- 16:42of the challenges was
- 16:45figuring out how we create
- 16:47this snapshot.
- 16:49And one thing we wanted to do, just
- 16:50to clarify that a little bit,
- 16:52was make it so that all the artists
- 16:54that you see in the book are active
- 16:56right now. The idea that you can
- 16:57pick up the book, read about an
- 16:59artist, check out the photos, and go
- 17:01see them. Find out when they're
- 17:02playing something. Yeah, exactly.
- 17:04So There is an
- 17:06immediacy to the concept of the book
- 17:08also, which is the difference that
- 17:10Mitch was talking about, you know,
- 17:11rather than a Retrospective
- 17:14or something like that.
- 17:15Of course, it may turn into that
- 17:16over time. Yeah
- 17:17Yeah, but it's starting out at this
- 17:19at this stage, right?
- 17:20You mentioned that immediacy.
- 17:21I love that You know, there's an
- 17:22index of artists. You can actually
- 17:24fold through the pages and see
- 17:26Everything photos look beautiful
- 17:28How important was it for this thing
- 17:30to actually be like a tangible book
- 17:31and not just an online guide?
- 17:33Not that there's anything wrong with
- 17:34that. But how important was for this
- 17:35to be a real thing that people could
- 17:37hold?
- 17:38Super important.
- 17:39I mean, we have, we have a digital
- 17:41companion to the book as well,
- 17:43where we're, we'll be sharing
- 17:44exclusive content, bonus content
- 17:46that you can't find on the page.
- 17:48But, um, how awesome, uh,
- 17:50to have something that feels like
- 17:52a coffee table book, but also has
- 17:53the practicality of a field guide,
- 17:55if you will, and our friend Emma
- 17:57Schmidt, just to call out one of the
- 17:59many talented folks who worked on
- 18:01the, on the book with us, uh did
- 18:02these amazing hand-drawn
- 18:04illustrations of venues across
- 18:06town.
- 18:07Inside the back cover, it folds out
- 18:09to this great hand-drawn map of
- 18:11the venues across town, and you can
- 18:13really use that to plan your live
- 18:14music experience.
- 18:16So I kind of described the creative
- 18:17strategy as a reverse mullet.
- 18:18It's sort of, you know, party
- 18:20in the front with all the great
- 18:22photos from, from David Brendan
- 18:24hall and others,
- 18:26and a business in the back with all
- 18:27the nuts and bolts that you need to
- 18:28really take advantage of this town.
- 18:30Yeah, well, as Mitch was saying
- 18:31there, David, most of the photos in
- 18:32this book belong to you, and
- 18:34you were talking a little bit about
- 18:35you, you were born and raised here,
- 18:37I believe you said, and so you've
- 18:38been on the scene for a long time.
- 18:40How many years of work did you,
- 18:42were you able to kind of amass into
- 18:43this book?
- 18:44Well, we wanted to
- 18:47pull from photos from my
- 18:49archive that was as current as
- 18:50we possibly could.
- 18:52Now, I have some photos that go, you
- 18:54know, back 15 years, but
- 18:56we tried to keep it within the last
- 18:57decade, and even then made
- 18:59some choices. Well, this is an old
- 19:01photo of this band or this artist.
- 19:04They have a different vibe or the
- 19:05band members have changed.
- 19:06Yeah. And those were cases where.
- 19:08Really needed to reach out to other
- 19:10photographers or the artists and get
- 19:12updated photos.
- 19:13And a goal of mine was to include as
- 19:15many other photographers as possible
- 19:17within the restrictions
- 19:19of our modest
- 19:21budget, but also tried
- 19:24to be generous in that sense to
- 19:26as many perspectives
- 19:28as we could get.
- 19:29And so about maybe to answer your
- 19:31question, 10 years of
- 19:33coming through my archive and
- 19:35a lot of that thanks to
- 19:37working with the Austin Chronicle,
- 19:39who opened a lot of doors for me, so
- 19:41shout out to them.
- 19:42Absolutely.
- 19:42Absolutely.
- 19:43Absolutely. And then KUTX.
- 19:44NKUTX for
- 19:46everything.
- 19:47Education on the
- 19:49music scene, commitment to
- 19:51it,
- 19:53to spotlighting that for
- 19:55people every day.
- 19:58And I think that
- 19:59with the
- 20:02choices that we made,
- 20:04it was a difficult process.
- 20:07An editorial process.
- 20:08Yeah, and the difficult
- 20:11editorial process and it came
- 20:13together in such a short
- 20:15amount of time.
- 20:16I think we pulled all these photos
- 20:18in a matter of two and a half,
- 20:20three months. So it was quite the
- 20:21trip down memory lane.
- 20:23A perfectly imperfect process.
- 20:24I mean, no, no one book can do
- 20:26justice to the, to the broad,
- 20:28deep talent that's in this town.
- 20:30And so this is a start and we just,
- 20:32we're trying to give the readers a
- 20:34cross section.
- 20:35And that's why we, you know, we
- 20:37decided to use genres to sort
- 20:39of organize, organize
- 20:42discovery of artists, if you will.
- 20:44And we have country Americana,
- 20:46blues and soul, Latin and
- 20:47world, hip hop and R and jazz
- 20:50electronic and experimental
- 20:52There's so much to discover.
- 20:54I learned a lot, David learned a
- 20:56lot.
- 20:56Yeah that was that was one of the
- 20:57fun things is that you know of
- 20:59course Mitch and I both have our
- 21:01segments our niches in the scene
- 21:02that we know but you know
- 21:04I there was stuff like particularly
- 21:06jazz that I don't
- 21:08know a whole lot about and so
- 21:10really learned about artists that
- 21:13haven't been on my radar the entire
- 21:14time I've been in the seen and
- 21:16connected with photographers also
- 21:18who were really involved in that
- 21:20and people that came in to consult
- 21:22with us and educate us.
- 21:24On on some of these so it was that
- 21:25it was a process of discovery for us
- 21:27and we hope that you know it's
- 21:29uh... Vehicle for discovery for
- 21:31others and it's
- 21:31And did y'all expect it to be a
- 21:33source of discovery, because I
- 21:34assume, like, you know, you write a
- 21:35book, you're perceived as, like an
- 21:36authority on that topic, right, but
- 21:38was that rewarding to be
- 21:40able to be enlightened as you're
- 21:42going along in this process?
- 21:43Well, you know, it's interesting
- 21:44because we often talk about the
- 21:46Austin music scene as if it's
- 21:48some monolithic entity.
- 21:50And when you go down this path, what
- 21:51you quickly discover is this great
- 21:53insight that there is not just one
- 21:55scene. You know, that holds space
- 21:57for all of these great scenes,
- 21:59all these micro scenes.
- 22:00And so you can go to Africa night
- 22:02at the Sahara Lounge on, on
- 22:04Saturday night, or you can dip in
- 22:06to the white horse for Armadillo
- 22:08Road on a Sunday night, or You
- 22:10know, you can go to ABGB
- 22:12on Sunday afternoon.
- 22:13You can do all these great things in
- 22:14this town. Chickensh, bingo, at
- 22:16Little Longhorn, right?
- 22:17Thank you for that.
- 22:18It's all here.
- 22:20Anyway, scenes are personal.
- 22:22They are highly personal.
- 22:24Just to highlight something that you
- 22:26sort of did there inadvertently
- 22:28that the book is more than just
- 22:29artists. That's right.
- 22:30It's the venues, it's the festivals,
- 22:32it is the nonprofits that are
- 22:35giving back to the scene also.
- 22:36Absolutely. So all that is included
- 22:37in there as part of the guide.
- 22:40And then to backtrack a little bit,
- 22:42I mean, you were asking about,
- 22:44did we expect it to, you
- 22:46know... To learn and to be
- 22:47enlightened by that.
- 22:48Well, I think that you have
- 22:50to when you're creating a project
- 22:52like this.
- 22:53Or even when you're
- 22:55conversing with people about the
- 22:57scene or any music scene.
- 22:58And I was talking to Mitch about it.
- 22:59And I think one of the most exciting
- 23:01things about music in general
- 23:03is that one person cannot know
- 23:04everything.
- 23:05There is always something to
- 23:07discover. Even if someone comes to
- 23:08me and says, you've probably
- 23:10photographed everything.
- 23:11You've seen everything. I'm like,
- 23:12absolutely not. There's no way, try
- 23:13me. And so through this
- 23:15and even just all the time, you got
- 23:17so many chances to discover music.
- 23:19And that's part of the magic of it.
- 23:20And it was part of magic of this
- 23:21project. Can help please.
- 23:23Translates to other people picking
- 23:24up the book in Austin and beyond.
- 23:26I think there's reach beyond here,
- 23:28too
- 23:28Absolutely.
- 23:29It's a way to be
- 23:31welcomed into the Austin music scene
- 23:32and have a good knowledge.
- 23:34We got about two minutes left and
- 23:35you mentioned Ham earlier.
- 23:37Some proceeds from the sale of your
- 23:38book are benefiting Ham.
- 23:40Again, that's the Health Alliance
- 23:41for Austin musicians.
- 23:42How important was it to use this
- 23:44project as a way to give back to
- 23:45those musicians, to the community?
- 23:47Super important.
- 23:48I mean, it's open enrollment right
- 23:49now for Ham.
- 23:52Most of the artists we interviewed
- 23:54and talked to, and we must have done
- 23:55at least 70 interviews for this
- 23:56project,
- 23:58they're not opposed to
- 24:01change or growth.
- 24:02Austin has changed a lot over the
- 24:03last decades.
- 24:05One common hope is that
- 24:07the scene remains affordable
- 24:09for them to stay here
- 24:11and perform here and make their
- 24:13art here.
- 24:14Uh, we, we heard that
- 24:16routinely and, you know,
- 24:21You know, working with Ham made it
- 24:23abundantly clear that we have to
- 24:25support these artists in this
- 24:26community if we want the scene to
- 24:27thrive.
- 24:28And so I'd say that's another great
- 24:30note. We have an impact section in
- 24:32the back of the book.
- 24:33We recognize all of the great
- 24:34nonprofits beyond Ham who
- 24:36are working to sustain the scene.
- 24:37And we give readers tips on how they
- 24:39can amplify these nonprofits in
- 24:41their.
- 24:42We have been chatting with David
- 24:43Brendan Hall and Mitch Baranowski.
- 24:45They're a couple of the members of
- 24:46the team behind the book.
- 24:48Austin's music scene, your guide to
- 24:49the city's most iconic artists and
- 24:51venues.
- 24:52I did notice that it says first
- 24:53edition and you mentioned, uh,
- 24:55you know, that maybe there will be
- 24:57future ones. We only have about 30
- 24:58seconds left.
- 24:59Uh, but you said there's going to be
- 25:00like a little bit of supplementary,
- 25:02uh, information available online.
- 25:04Yeah, we'll be launching an online
- 25:06companion component and
- 25:08stuff we couldn't fit in the book in
- 25:10the very limited amount of pages
- 25:11that we had.
- 25:13So hopefully many more photos,
- 25:15interviews, profiles,
- 25:17the scene will continue to change
- 25:19within a few months, within,
- 25:21it could be next
- 25:22week, another artist
- 25:24or band forms or another venue
- 25:26opens and then things will change
- 25:28and we can update that in real time.
- 25:32Reflects how this scene is
- 25:34ever-evolving.
- 25:35It's it's never gonna stop about
- 25:36Thank you for going out and
- 25:37supporting live music.
- 25:38Yeah. Keep going.
- 25:40This is David Brendan Hall and Mitch
- 25:41Baranowski.
- 25:42Thank you for being with us here on
- 25:44Austin Signal.
- 25:45Thank you.
- 25:46And thank you out there for being us
- 25:48on this Monday afternoon
- 25:50or whenever you're tuning in.
- 25:52This is Austin Signal, I'm your host
- 25:54Jerry Quijano.
- 25:55We have more information at kut.org
- 25:58slash signal.