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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E29 'Our two cents' October 28, 2022 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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It's bonus time, we're honored Athletics, LLC would allow us to
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present to you the audio version of their weekly Friday Night,
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YouTube series. Let's get to and see what the
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crew has in store this week. We're recording gentlemen.
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Are We Ready set? Go just kidding.
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Welcome to Athletics. LLC.
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Well, have another fun episode for you promised.
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We are missing a child this week.
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Unfortunately a judicious has some business to tend to, but we
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promise it wasn't because of any crazy.
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Shenanigans from the birthday. He actually has business to tend
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to. So before we forget, happy
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birthday just to Lucius, he's a 36 years young.
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I'll invert the number. So, it sounds better, though.
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Love it, love it. Love it, love it.
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So, as we get started with the evening, I love the topics that
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we came up with this week, because we're kind of going back
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to Our Roots little bit and giving some, some advice and
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some some Credence to how we all got here in our current places.
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So, before we get started, Clyde, how are you this evening?
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Sir, I'm still in my my office. As your eyes start to roll
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backwards a little bit. See now now now people
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understand when when married men get left single, we just bury
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ourselves in work. Who wants to be a home?
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But wants to be an empty house by themselves.
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Nobody nobody. Now I like how you just married
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me all of a sudden. I am no no, I understand.
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Well well played sir. Cohabitating.
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Whatever words you want to hear. That's right.
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Common law, common law. Wow.
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You're also getting a what's that called?
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Judicial education. That's right.
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All right, we're done. But the longer cardiac Road
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rather are you busy? Oh man it's a crazy time to be a
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roadrunner. I mean what can I say?
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We you know I left The football game.
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I had I had three recruits in. We left with 2 minutes and 20.
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23 seconds left in the game and we had just scored a touchdown.
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And we're thinking, okay, we're going to be all right, we get to
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the parking lot and by the time I get in the car, nor Texas has
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driven down and scored a touchdown.
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We get the ball back with a minute, 30.
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Right, no timeouts. And we ended up at 4th and to a
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Midfield, I don't know how or wide receiver had the
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wherewithal to reach his hand, over to get the first down.
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We're 36 seconds. So once the whistle goes, the
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clock goes, right? So we had, you know, it's one of
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those deals, like, you know, exactly what's about to happen.
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QB, throws a ball way too high over the metal bar, 280-pound,
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tight end, one hands the ball, snatches it out of the air, we
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get down to the 10 yard line, you run down hands the ball to
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the ref. And we, you know, we were
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thinking. Okay, we're going to spike it to
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stop the clock, just to set up a play.
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No, we went straight in, got in a set and Zone, depends on top
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wide. Receiver jumps up catches the
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ball. Ten seconds left in the game,
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unbelievable. So yeah, I'm still recovering.
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I'm probably watch that video. I don't know 30 times since it's
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just crazy crazy time. So that's why I have a cardiac
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roadrunners. That's funny.
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I mean, same TCU, is liking to have delayed starts at this
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point. Welcome to the game, Bella's.
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Yes. A nice things for showing up,
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Lamar from afar. How are you, sir?
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Other than my laggy Wi-Fi, I'm good.
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Unfortunately, I've unfortunately grown accustomed
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to waking up at 3:45 and getting in my car or a car at 4:00 and
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driving towards an airport. Welcome to adulthood sir.
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Thanks for joining the party. It's like the pro career part
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two is what that is. That's what it is.
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Definitely pro career. Many profound reports three and
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flights of our agents put us on for our layovers that they
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didn't. They just neglected to tell us
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about, you know stuff. No, no, no, yes.
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The with the worst feeling it was for you Lamar.
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But the worst for me was I was going from I was trying to Lentz
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and I get to Frankfurt airport at 6:30 in the morning.
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Yes, when my flight to Linds? What's the next day?
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My flight to limbs was at 6:00 that evening?
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Yeah. I spent 12 hours?
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Yeah. Like I got on the train, just
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sat there in the town square and watch Frankfurt.
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Come to life. It's you just figure it out, you
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figure it out. I'm trying to imagine, like,
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today's athletes, having to navigate something like that.
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Our and he didn't just buy, the cheapest ticket puts you on the
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plane. You get over there and you're
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just like what the happening you're packing the airport.
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Oh yeah. Because like so like my worst
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story for sure the anxiety attack and the full-fledged sit
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down plop down, cross your legs and just rock back and forth and
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Sehun from for today's kids. This is what happened.
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My flight gets gets booked agent.
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Tells me you're flying into London.
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You gotta you gotta relatively tight tight window.
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You're not going to be on the ground very long, you got an
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hour and 20 minutes and then you fly out to I think I'm going
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someplace in Germany. Okay, sounds good.
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Something tells me to double-check my ticket.
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I flew in to Heathrow and out of Gatwick, for those of you have
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done that, those are nomadic different airports.
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Absolutely sides. No an hour and 22 because you
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got to get your bags. So to go through security get
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your bags go secure Ataxia that sound over and get that get
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across town through. Traffic and they get back to
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security and check their bags. That's right.
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You're asking for to be Merlin's wizard.
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Absolutely. That is one of two times in my
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entire life I've ever run in an airport and I literally don't
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move through the door as the lady was attempting to close the
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door of my flight cuz I like I am not getting stranded in
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Europe trying to fly standby. That's not happening.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So for sure today's athlete that is probably a panic attack and a
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full-fledged sit in like someone is going to fix this.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. And and, and redundant and silly
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questions, like, why does London have two airports?
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Why didn't anyone tell me, right?
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The same reason that New York has two ports.
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Dallas has two airports. Exactly.
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I feel like laying has like four.
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I could make every know I couldn't figure out that LH R
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and L. GW are two totally different
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things. It just never really didn't.
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It didn't register. Well, On to see that's like
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stuff people would never know. London.
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Yeah, then last three I didn't know nothing about but the
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mother one's identity. Wow, yeah.
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And pretty much the major airlines in the state's fly, fly
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in and out of Heathrow for the most part.
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Yes. And there's and there's some
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Gatwick for the most Start the major airlines don't fly out of
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the other for. But but if your agent booked
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your ticket is, no guarantee that you're going to be on a
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major, absolutely. Now, I could tell you all my
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Sweden story but we try to keep the show.
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Yes. Yes, we've been lighting.
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The audience enough will have a beautiful so and definitely we
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don't want to test the Red Roof Inn Wi-Fi because it's early a
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little glitchy, so keep moving forward.
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That, you know, there's a couple Hot Topics in regards to
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institution ncaa's institutions. Things that how we're changing
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certain things? One of them being ni L name
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image and likeness. So within the Scopes that you
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all are in respectively. How is it changed the game in
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our sport? In our sport is the interesting
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piece of this, right? I ain't gonna lie to you.
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I don't think ni L has done much of anything in our Sport and I
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would love to be proven wrong in that regard, but all it's really
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done is give the powers that be the first world problems if we
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will, if they're lucious was here, we would tease him about
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this, right? It's just given them another
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layer of separation. That they can't out.
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And, you know, promote and probably in some cases use right
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to further separate the gap between the Haves and the Have
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Nots but I don't know of too many track and field athletes.
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You know, from recruiting perspective that are signing
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major in il deals, I'm sure it's coming.
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I'm sure it'll probably start in Gainesville but you know I just
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I haven't I haven't felt that piece of it yet but it's a
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great, it's a great marketing tool and it's a great
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recruiting, you know, push I've actually been quite impressed
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with the way. Our campus is a vape, creating
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the marketplace. They right.
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But I think the the transfer portal has is a much bigger deal
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of changing the game. I really haven't felt a huge
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impact for men, IL in our sport yet, I will piggyback off of you
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Clyde. And and I think the operative
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word is yet, I don't think it has changed the game in track
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and field yet, but it's it's coming.
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I have not just like you, I have not had a situation where, you
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know, I've been told that, you know, sorry, I can't come to
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your school because I'm getting x amount of dollars from X
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Program. And you know, this money has
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been bequeathed to me because I am such X Y and Z athlete.
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And this was promised to me to sign with the school.
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I have not experienced that as yet.
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I mean, literally what I'm dealing with is, you know, the
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extra cost of attendance, they all said money, you know, that's
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that's where the separation is as far as I'm concerned.
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And, you know, once you know, I'm having a conversation in a
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young man or young woman tells me that they're getting x amount
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of money on top of, you know, their scholarship.
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Hey, I say, hey, you nice. You have a nice life.
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You know, it's awesome. Have have fun with that, you
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know. Make sure you you invest, you
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know, well you know, so you can buy your house as soon as you
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graduate and you know, and all of that.
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So but no, I have not. I do not think that ni L has
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taken hold in track and field yet, but it's going to take some
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very enterprising. Young man and young woman and
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some very enterprising admit athletic departments and how
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many athletic departments around the country?
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See you value in that right now. When the battle is Raging right
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now in football where you know, it's interesting that you
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brought this question up, Lamar, because I am what we're seeing
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right now is we're seeing where ni L has failed.
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Miserably. There is that all there is there
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and it's coming to the fore. Now we're congratulations uses
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signed, you know, one of the greatest classes but they're
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still freshmen and they still got time and they still have,
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you know, we still going to be two to three years before this
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actually pays off, you know? And we're Watching programs
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literally implode now because of the amount of money and
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resources that were generated to put these signing classes
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together. And nobody thought about the
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fact that You know from from when you talk about the the
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portal, if School X gets five portal kids that are Bonafide
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Killers, right? That actually has more right
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now, positive moves than 30 freshman that you just bought,
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right? Let's call it what it is that
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still? Don't know how to play this.
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I mean it's you know, let's call it what it is.
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College football is a man's game now and people aren't really
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paying attention. You're dealing with or you know
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QBs and you know D lineman that are 23 24, 25 years old now you
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know and that still means something so but yeah that's
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that's my thought on on ni l in track and field.
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Well, this is actually awesome because this very rarely happens
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where there's like literal opposite sides to the coin.
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I will say this by definition and IL is a first world problem.
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Like, literally by definition, right?
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You're not have an image and likeness conversations at the,
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at, the, at the mid major group of five for the most part level,
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right? Like, because that is probably
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not going to be the separator between you and another group of
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five School. That's probably not it.
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So for, so, for the most part we are talking about first world
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first, world problems and issues.
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But I will tell you what I have seen, which is interesting
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because I am not directly a college coach anymore, but I
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have seen it play out in a couple ways one and IL money is
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the great parachute, you have spent all the money, you spent
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all the portal, money, you have no money left.
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Absolute Bang. ER comes open the portal.
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You now have a way to still get said kit.
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And I've seen it happen, right? Like we are out of money.
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Make a phone call to the collective, the collective says,
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but we can't have that. Where is this athlete?
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Going to go if we don't get them.
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In conference and Conference in conference or incompetence.
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Oh, that will never do. Give them the bag, they will
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come here, like will cover all the costs of the school and then
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they could still like, you know, I don't know what the rules are.
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Awesome money, what? Like whatever they can't get
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that, they should get will cover that to him.
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And I was like, well, there you go.
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There's n IL to the rescue, right?
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Right. It do here.
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If your 12.6 isn't enough for your 18 isn't enough, and you
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have a collective, and the right kid pops up Bang.
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Right, there's your money. It has definitely changed
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International recruiting at the high high high end because
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that's the skirt around, right? Like, you can't sign in and IL
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deals for international kids. However, the international kid
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can sign in il deal at home. If the company is global, the
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money can still end up. Can still end up in that
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country. And NIU Nai LDL can still be
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signed and Bob's your uncle, right?
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But the third part and a part that I have found very very
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interesting. There is now a very silent
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battle going on on campuses. Your top and donors have money
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that they literally can set on fire.
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It doesn't matter what your mid-level donors.
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These are still really important people, right?
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They put money into programs and they help, you know, you need to
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get a pole vault pit or you need to, you know, like items that
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makes any sense not buildings, right?
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now, there is a There is a war being rage because in the past
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you knew you had a guy or a girl that you could tab for like that
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special item. The problem is that person is
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now already been tab by Collective X Collective, why?
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And is already like in the pockets of three athletes and
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because he or she is a mid-level donor, there's no more money.
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Yeah. So now there's a small silent
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battle going between Do the donor, give the money to the
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athletes and does the monkey. Does the donor, give the money
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to the program. So I find it very interesting.
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Yes it is. A first world problem at this
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point and and and I think these things that I'm talking about
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are these wars are being waged on probably about 12 to 12 to 20
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campuses currently. But to you guys is point if you
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pay attention, everything that happens in the power 5 level
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happens at the group of five level one year, two years later,
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everything. Right?
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So it's coming Right? And so, you know, and believe me
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if it happens in other sports, it gets to track a year, maybe
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two years later so I'm telling you this was going on.
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In baseball is literally the Wild Wild West.
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Well, actually, there are schools, there are schools that
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are you know, because you can buy players in baseball and it
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be more effective than buying football players that are
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freshman, right? Because now you're talking about
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buying kids out of the draft, like I watched that happen where
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a kid is being offered, the two hundred thousand dollar signing
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bonus. Right, doesn't think that's
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enough. So the school gives them 125 and
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IL for them to be on campus for three years and they're still
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going to get at the very, very good leads the bag that they
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were initially offered and we like to be a bigger bag.
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So ostensibly she get 125 for three years.
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You got three hundred seventy-five thousand dollars
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already. So we're already giving you more
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money than you were going to sign for. and we don't have a
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draft in track, but That's going to happen.
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Somebody that there's going to be a high school kid considering
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Pro or not in track. Obviously, there aren't a ton of
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those, we get that right, but somebody's going to decide.
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Well, if we give this kid enough money, you'll come to school for
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a year or two. She'll come to school for a year
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or two hundred percent, and I will was just not going to go
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there. But yes, like for sure, there is
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one that it's going to happen. And it's coming here this year
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so it's coming. I read this question.
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Saw it in different light than you all did, but I'm going to
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come back to your life to thinking about how it's changed
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the game, in our sport, in regards to the athletes, and
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where they're signing. Because the markets are
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different in different areas. Yes.
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Right. Right.
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So the ability to sign different contracts, the ability to have
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different vision. And or visibility, I'm sorry
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changes the game is to money that can be attained at the G5
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level. Just speaking specifically,
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right on that part thinking about ni L and how it changes
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From the parental you don't standpoint.
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We use n IL at a part of a recruiting process as education.
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The education that we provide for our student-athletes and how
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we're going to jump ahead of it and not let you fall through the
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cracks and things of that nature has given us.
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The definite leg up in regards to that aspect.
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We have lost a kid because of additional and I Elman that lost
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a couple kids. So that I mean it's not that the
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hundred thousand two hundred thousands but it's money and you
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know unfortunately we are used to the pain.
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He's already so it wasn't pennies Is large enough and
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that's but that's the point, right?
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Like right now in track, it's all perception, and mouthpiece
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hears it. And listen, if you can, if you
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can talk that talk and and sell the vision of the possibility of
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what that can be the better recruit?
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No, well, not even what it could be.
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They're getting the money locked in.
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Yeah, I get that. But what I'm saying is be, it's
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not a comparable to football. It's not a straight line.
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Where kids are being purchased. Yeah.
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Right. My elected to be the next UTSA
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spring star, right? Like that.
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That's not happening yet it's easy.
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It's easy to. It's easy for an ni L Collective
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comparative to football, right? It's easy to go to the
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collective and find an extra thousand bucks.
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Hmm. Because in our nickel-and-dime
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world that'll be enough, right? Yeah, any little any little
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carrot that Can use two separate works.
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Like we're G5, right, but we're one of the few schools in G5 is
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doing Alston. We're one of the few schools in
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G5 that has a in il Collective, right, published advertise,
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right? And so you can, it's more for
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me, it's more. So if you're here, this is what
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is possible versus UTSA. Offered you three thousand, more
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bucks, On the side through the collector like it's coming.
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Yeah, it was absolutely going to be there because the first time
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that big school X feels like they cost them a national
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champion and because they, you know, because they couldn't
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deliver the collective, I would, what I would love to know is how
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many universities track programs that have a collective on the
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campus? I'm sorry off the campus, they
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have a collective. Elected to the campus.
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Even take calls for track and field right now.
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Because, you know, I mean like that.
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Not a priority. Yeah, yeah.
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And I will say this, you know, like the another way that it's,
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again, these things are small and subtle right now, but they
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won't be, right? Is that when you get your money
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through the track program, it's NCAA regulated at there's dates
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as to, when you're going to get paid every month or every or
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every half semester, however, it is Right?
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When you get your money from a collective, they're going to
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like they make a decision when the money's coming, right?
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It may not be the first week of school.
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Yeah, yeah, right. You and maybe one of those
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deals, like, look, you're going to get your whole years worth of
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money all at once, but it's going to be like December 1st.
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So you have to figure it out till bit, you know, like it's
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just it's the changes are going to come fast and furious to
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track because they're going to come late right that it's
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whenever the trickle-down happens, it happens fastest at
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the end and will be one of the, you know, we'll be in that group
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of sports that Okay now. And, you know, now there's an IL
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deals for like, you know what, every school at every level, and
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yada, yada yada, and it's going to be Well, the thing, the
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thing, that the thing that I'm curious about is, you know, and
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well, I'll put it to you like this.
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What I'm curious about is how many schools actually see value
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in having a winning track and field team.
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Yeah. And you know, whether they're
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willing to put their money, where their mouth is, especially
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if it starts to go into become, you know, becoming a bidding
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war, like which institutions are going to be at the Forefront of
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that, and I mean, what we're doing right now.
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I mean, it's Be clear that there are certain schools that I have
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a lot more individual talent in volume than other schools.
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There, there is no question about it and we could probably
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name the top five right now off the top of our album, there
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ain't no probably to that, right?
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So, it's becoming more of a not Who can you bring?
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But how many how many unbelievable, you know,
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athletes, can you bring to your program?
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And how do you afford that, how do you go past our?
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How do you spread that money and add an alive and il-2?
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It to be able to have that group of athletes?
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When you step off the bus, I mean now you have a backup to
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the backup to the backup to the Back up, right?
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And that's, I think that's, that's where we're headed right
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now. I mean, and it's pretty clear to
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me which schools are at the Forefront of that.
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And here's ni 0 represents to me in our sport opportunity because
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at the end of the day, n, IL is basically an advertising
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function, right? So if I'm Small school X but I'm
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based in Chicago, but I'm based in New York.
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And IL is the greatest equalizer I could ever have because on
30:07
reputation, I can't do battle with the quote unquote powers
30:12
that be, I can't out recruit the SEC but there's more money in my
30:16
backyard. Hmm, more.
30:18
People who care about my University's rep in my backyard
30:22
with Bigger Pockets, in theory, if they care, if I can
30:27
mouthpiece my way into that, if I can make it make sense to
30:30
them, right? So it's an opportunity to
30:33
Equalizer. But that's one of those
30:36
situations where leadership matters.
30:38
Yep. Alf piece matters?
30:40
Yep. And are you, are you as is your
30:44
University willing to and do you have the skill set as a coach to
30:49
do more than just teach people how to run fast?
30:52
I mean, think about what you just said.
30:54
So you think about the powers, the Villanova's of the world,
31:00
the pits, the The Seton Hall's It's of the world.
31:04
I mean, it's an opportunity. They have those schools have a
31:09
unbelievable Legacy. When you think about what they
31:12
used to be able to do and the programs that they used to just
31:17
turn out year after year. I mean it's you got to wonder
31:22
like I mean. Is anyone sitting there going
31:25
man? Like I'd love to go back to the
31:28
Glory Days. That would be nice.
31:30
You know, well so far, I like to you guys is point, right?
31:34
Like what I'm interested to see is when somebody is smart enough
31:40
to actually use the words right, like the ri right now, all ni L
31:46
deal means is like extra scholarship money.
31:48
That's really what anybody seeks, see.
31:50
I think they're missing the point, right?
31:53
I'm gonna I'll pick a school. We'll make it up.
31:57
The Southern University of Los Angeles.
32:00
He's right. If I'm that school I am
32:04
literally going to use your name image and likeness to me to
32:11
drive legitimate career moves and finances for both the school
32:18
and yourself, right? Like I mean there's
32:21
opportunities to put you in, you know get your sag card and put
32:25
you in in in like commercials and things that have like
32:29
forever. Royalties.
32:32
Like that's the part that's actually not being used.
32:35
Yet is the actual name image and likeness?
32:40
And I say that because most of these kids are not reading these
32:44
contracts. Yes, somebody's going to Simon 8
32:46
sine sine and N IL deal for 10 grand and find out that they
32:50
gave away their name image and likeness to, you know, to Reebok
32:55
to globally Print T-Shirts, you know, shoes everything.
33:00
Else and they get zero percentage.
33:02
Of? Yes, that's comment.
33:04
I said that two years ago. Absolutely, absolutely.
33:08
But to that don't. So that's what I'm looking for.
33:11
I'm looking to see when the names image in the likenesses
33:14
are actually being exploited. It's because that's coming at
33:17
some point. It'll or what he's gotten to
33:20
that, yet, it'll all come, but that, like, that's the thing,
33:23
right? Like what?
33:24
What happens, first, the rich get richer, write the name
33:27
brand, programs are going to be the first people out front
33:29
taking The Venom is in likeness, but to your point.
33:33
If LA City Tech in downtown Los Angeles or in North Hollywood
33:39
Los Angeles cared enough? Yeah.
33:42
Oh, they could cripple that absolutely sure.
33:45
They're locate. I mean for sure for sure.
33:48
Yes. With that, I want to touch on
33:52
the international student body. There is a collective who has
33:58
put up the first International. So in a foreign language
34:02
billboard / ni L Penn State, it's a Penn State athletes, the
34:09
company. The collective is a Success With
34:13
Honor is had put up the Billboards in Toronto and
34:18
Ontario. So it's the first of its kind in
34:20
the foreign language in a foreign country and they've done
34:23
sin with basketball. I just got sent this article
34:25
today from our ni L people. It's Leonard, Li people making
34:29
things up as they go. Yes.
34:31
And so what's happening is, is the collective, is keeping the
34:35
money for them in that country. Mhm.
34:39
And then passing it that way versus, you know, we had That
34:43
know, whatever their student athletes.
34:45
Who were trying to collect small ni else from their country, stop
34:49
on the countryside. And then having a deposit into a
34:52
bank or giving to their family to give to them, you know, and
34:55
whatever the process is that, I don't know.
34:57
But like now they're going as far as that, there's basketball
35:02
Billboards, there's talk about in this article, the Kentucky
35:08
forward, Who. I was able to get licenses name
35:15
and image and likeness, a lucrative loophole that is
35:18
netting him about 20,000 a month in just apparel sales.
35:22
Wow. Yeah.
35:24
It is. All those all the hiding money.
35:27
Chicane arethat goes on in White Collar.
35:30
Land is rushing in right now on the football basketball side.
35:37
It's it's chaos here. Like this is.
35:41
This is where we are. It's not going back the other
35:42
way. Way.
35:43
The genie is out of the proverbial bottle and I want to
35:48
say this one last thing and then and then definitely definitely,
35:51
Madam chew we can move on. But just remember this, we have
35:56
this untenable monster. There is NI L because the NCAA
36:00
and their corrupt self refused to give the athletes three
36:02
thousand dollars a year. Yeah.
36:05
Pretty much. Man, if you look at that price
36:09
tag, now they really dropped the ball there.
36:12
Mmm. So anyway, I will, I will say
36:19
this, I think what ni L is going to lead to at the highest level
36:26
where you talk about football basketball is that we're going
36:29
to see programs literally explode, and implode like that.
36:35
Sure, I mean, it's goes Super come, it's going to become
36:41
dizzy. I think we're going to get dizzy
36:43
from the amount of, I mean, Herbal chaos Clyde, my favorite.
36:49
My favorite and IL story is still is still yours.
36:52
And that's that's the name, right?
36:54
The quarterback at Texas. Yes.
36:55
Yeah. Signed a million-dollar and iíll
36:58
deal to graduate high school early and in roller at Ohio,
37:01
State never played their did like it left took the bag with
37:04
them exist and IL story. Every unbeliever state literally
37:08
paid a million dollars to a kid that never played for them.
37:11
Yeah, Love it next to. So you do with our old wise
37:20
beards were all rubbing them right now, we've got some advice
37:26
from our life stories as to the, for the young coaches and maybe
37:29
not young and age, but young and coaching career, what is one
37:34
must do and one must do not do As a young coach, sorry about
37:43
that. I got to go last last time, so I
37:47
guess I'll fall on the sword and I'll go.
37:49
First this time, I will say, I'll take the lowest of all
37:55
low-hanging fruit. If you've if you've watched four
37:58
episodes from the show, you've heard this said if you don't do
38:01
anything as a young or under experienced coach, if you don't
38:07
do anything you have better, get not but some mentors.
38:15
Like get you some parents real quick.
38:19
Like one of the most important they will stop you.
38:21
If they'll keep you help you keep your job.
38:23
They'll stop you from, from Reinventing, the wheel, all of
38:27
those things. And and if you ever, you know,
38:29
if you're one of those people who like wants to fast-track and
38:32
Advance yourself the fastest way, and best way to advance
38:35
yourself in this sport is have good mentors.
38:43
Absolutely do not do so and I think I want to stay away from
38:50
the obvious, right? So like you know, listen don't
38:53
don't don't diddle with the kids like you know, don't don't do
38:57
any of the truly obvious things. So, I'm going to step away from
39:00
that and say this, I think one of the most obvious things that
39:06
you have to do in particular, if you were a decorated athlete. is
39:13
immediately stop thinking autobiographically once you,
39:17
once you man a stopwatch Who you were as an athlete is
39:22
holistically irrelevant. And the athletes that you are
39:25
coaching, are not some percentage of you.
39:28
They're not a younger version of you, they are in no way shape or
39:32
form related to you, even if they look just like you even if
39:36
they have the same High School PBS's, you Coach, what's in
39:40
front of you? And don't compare it to who you
39:44
are or were or what you think of yourself.
39:48
Stick. So as far as must do, and I've
39:57
told this story at nauseam and it's one of those stories that,
40:03
you know, telling young coaches and I found myself telling my
40:07
story and after a, while I'm getting this blazed overlooked,
40:14
because they're looking at me like You did this for free for
40:19
six year? I knew that was coming.
40:22
Yes. Like what Hell no.
40:27
Like I'm trying to get paid, like the whole idea of being an
40:31
assistant at an NCAA D1 school is that you get paid?
40:37
Of course, right. Well, the one thing I will say
40:42
is that if you do not respect the profession on the on the
40:50
lowest possible level. If you do not respect, what has
40:56
to happen to keep a program of float.
41:00
And I'm talking about from the volunteers, to the folks, that
41:05
work the grounds, the folks that, you know, the This the,
41:10
you know, all those folks that keep that program propped up
41:15
the, you know, the director of Ops the travel travel person,
41:22
all those things, if you do not respect, what it is that they
41:27
do, you are not going to make it in this profession.
41:31
And and and for me, I needed all that time.
41:37
And to LaMar's point I needed all All that time to let the
41:42
Kareem Street Thompson, you know, professional athlete.
41:46
Everybody's catering to me, the phone's ringing off the hook.
41:50
Translation transition into, I need to get this this rate.
41:55
Respect the spin rate. I need to have these hurdles
41:59
shed set up for practice. I need to preempt my the coach
42:05
and I'm helping I need to be the one already out there.
42:09
Getting stuff ready. I need to make sure the cones
42:12
are in place. I don't need to be waiting to be
42:15
told what to do. And those are the little things.
42:20
Is that actually, you know helped me get a leg up when
42:23
people look at my career and they wonder how I moved from
42:27
being a volunteer to Missouri to Texas within two years.
42:33
That's what happened, because let's call it what it is when
42:38
you've had a storied career People are automatically going
42:42
to assume that you're going to walk into a room and expect to
42:46
be catered to, right? So when you flip the script
42:50
enough and you so know that you can be selfless, you can be
42:53
loyal you can you know, be pre-emptive.
42:57
You can be the Yes Man. Then it changes the perspective
43:01
completely. So of course, your head coach is
43:05
going to pick up the phone and say, hey, this dude is for Real,
43:09
he's got the credentials and he's also home and he's also
43:13
going to help you, you know, build that program.
43:17
He identifies with the kids, the kids identify with him and then
43:21
things move in a very very fast track at that point.
43:26
But let's not. Ignore the six years of just
43:33
slugging it out, you know? And and that's something that,
43:38
you know, again. Like I said, people don't want
43:39
to hear it. They don't want to hear that,
43:42
but I feel like it's very important.
43:45
There's there should be some sort of transition while you're
43:49
moving from whatever it is you were doing before into being a
43:52
full-time coach at the NCAA level.
43:57
I could, I could not Be with you more.
44:01
I don't want. Their internet done.
44:07
You there. Whatever you're here we call out
44:13
the while he's gross. While he's Frozen while he's
44:21
Frozen there. Can y'all hear me and see me
44:24
now? You can hear you yes the
44:25
governor didn't tell us his don't do.
44:28
Oh boy I got a don't do but you go ahead first.
44:33
Okay I was just going to say that like my first two years of
44:37
college coaching, I had to actually sign a contract for
44:40
zero dollars and zero cents because they gave me ACC
44:44
basketball tickets and they had value.
44:47
So my First three years of college coaching and I coach
44:50
several conference championships conference conference champions
44:54
level kids in the ACC. My first three years I made a
44:58
total of ten thousand dollars I'm going to.
45:03
I'm going to do answer this, these questions and give my
45:11
advice in a in a metaphor. Okay, you must diversify your
45:19
portfolio. And what I mean by that is if
45:24
the only people, you know, are the people that do the exact
45:28
same jobs that you do, You're doing this wrong.
45:32
If you only, if you're an assistant and all, you know, it
45:35
ships, you have or with other assistants, you're doing this
45:38
wrong. You need to find a respectful.
45:42
And classy way to build relationships with head,
45:44
coaches, need to find a respectful.
45:46
And classy way to build relationships with
45:49
administrators because I assure you, the associate ad, picking
45:54
up a phone on your behalf. Usually means a lot more than a
45:57
coach. Yep.
45:59
So you need to diversify your profile your portfolio within
46:03
whatever job you want. Need to find a way to show value
46:09
Beyond. What your daily description is
46:12
supposed to be and that will serve you.
46:15
Well, You need to humble yourself.
46:21
You need to humble yourself. You better find a way to humble
46:24
yourself. This profession by definition is
46:27
humbling and there are moments where you will need to swallow,
46:33
whatever prize, you think you have and to see the bigger
46:36
picture. So in those moments, Just
46:41
remember that you need to humble yourself in order to move to the
46:44
next thing you're trying to do the third must do you must know
46:48
your audience that pertains to the kids that pertains to who
46:53
you're working for that pertains to knowing when to speak, who to
46:57
speak to you need, you need to be aware of.
47:01
Who you're speaking around. You need to know your audience.
47:05
So those are my three better do, diversify your A folio be humble
47:12
and know your audience the simplest way that I can say that
47:17
you better not do, you better not be messing.
47:23
If you're messy in this profession, I imagining any
47:26
profession, but especially in this profession, if you're
47:29
messy, it's going, you're going to be exposed for being messy.
47:35
In whatever regards you want to be, you're going to get exposed
47:39
for me, a message, you can't be messing with the kids.
47:41
You can't be messing with your bosses.
47:43
You can't be messing with administrators.
47:45
You can't be out in the world talking trash about people.
47:48
You work for or with if you're messy.
47:52
You can't be at the convention doing things.
47:54
You ain't supposed to be doing like you can't be messy and have
47:59
your reputation intact in this game.
48:02
The world is too small, too many people know people.
48:08
Don't be messing. My and even perceivably messy,
48:12
you don't even have to ask. Messi is almost worse, right?
48:18
Because it's one thing if you if you went out and did something
48:22
and you leaked it, leaked it to the world.
48:24
It's a whole nother thing if you didn't do anything.
48:26
But you just move so messy that everybody thinks, right?
48:32
So yeah, you need to not be messy and within the bounds of
48:37
Nationalism like this, this industry is fun right?
48:42
You meet incredible people, you build real relationships.
48:46
He'll people have met their husbands and wives, right?
48:50
Not the messy ones have lost their husbands and wives.
48:55
All right, so just don't be messy. as far as I must not, do
49:05
kind of went over this in my head and it kind of touches on
49:09
what you said Clyde but the one thing I think that young man and
49:13
young woman should understand in this profession, is that there
49:19
are I mean there are multitude of trapdoors of potholes, like
49:31
are a multitude of things where you can go wrong in this
49:37
profession there the the NCAA as much as they have, you know.
49:47
Lessened, the rule book and as much as we're hearing about, you
49:52
know, our esteemed president, you know, wanting to make things
49:56
a little more free and easy. There are still parameters that
50:01
you have to work within and you know, we're no longer in an age
50:08
and a generation where the head coach or the assistant coach
50:14
with His or her group was judge, jury executioner and everything
50:19
that is no longer the case and the more you understand that?
50:27
The better And I'll give an example.
50:31
You know, when we talk about mental health, okay?
50:35
There are now mechanisms in place where as soon as that
50:39
comes up, as soon as that is brought up, you have to
50:44
understand that it's time for you to take a waxy.
50:48
You need to back off. Okay, I'm talking could stop
50:54
talking. All right.
51:01
You know, there are so many different areas.
51:06
Now that our predecessors even people that are in the
51:10
profession. Now had complete autonomy to
51:15
make decisions for these young men and young women to decide.
51:21
You know what this athlete is no longer going to be a part of my
51:24
team, X Y and Z, you cannot do that anymore.
51:29
You know as much as you're thinking in as much as you're
51:31
feeling it, you're out at the track and you're going mad like,
51:35
why am I dealing with this right now?
51:39
It's not up to you anymore. And, you know, it really comes
51:43
down to mentors people that have been there and done that, you
51:49
just happen to have a conversation and you bring up a
51:52
situation. And that Mentor says, dude, I'm
51:56
gonna give you one of these of advice.
51:58
Okay, back away back away, stop talking, stop talking.
52:05
Okay, so that that's my advice and and You know, again it's not
52:11
to say that you're being insensitive, it's not saying
52:14
that you are you that you don't care about said, individuals or
52:19
whatever the bottom line is this.
52:23
If you start to dabble in certain areas, if you start to
52:26
move into areas where you it's not your jurisdiction, you will
52:30
find out real quick. That you're probably not going
52:35
to make it. Big League especially since
52:43
Solutions is not with us tonight.
52:45
I think the audience would very, very much Benefit from your
52:50
responses. To this particular question is,
52:53
if you thought I was keeping my mouth shut on this one.
52:59
Trying, I'm trying to be nice. He's gonna have to watch the
53:02
show to hear what I said, he here.
53:03
No, no, no. I can hear all of it.
53:10
So I must do is You must put your ego aside, you must put
53:16
your pride aside, you must put all of those things inside, to
53:21
know, that even in your fifth day, fifth year, 15th year,
53:27
whatever it is, you've got to be able to put your ego and pride
53:32
aside to make sure that you're doing what you're doing for the
53:35
right reason. Because too often too fast, it
53:38
becomes about what I want and not what's for the program once
53:42
for the team or what's for the student-athlete themself,
53:45
because it's not about you because they are the ones who
53:48
get you your paycheck. So that part the must not do is
53:53
you cannot take anything personal.
54:00
And I am daily, reminding myself of that like you cannot take
54:04
anything personal. Cuz again, it is not about you.
54:10
Like when your boss comes at you because something didn't get
54:14
done, it's not about you necessarily not knowing that I
54:16
was going to get done or doing it incorrectly or anything of
54:19
that nature. It's just about the task getting
54:22
done in itself. So I mean short and sweet to the
54:26
point. Put your pride ego aside and
54:29
don't take it personal, It Ain't About You.
54:32
Well sir. That's as I said the audience
54:37
would definitely benefit from your take on this good stuff.
54:42
Yeah. Definitely, you know, if anybody
54:49
has any to add, please feel free to comment them because anybody,
54:53
who watches, or here's will go to YouTube and at least see
54:57
that, or even when I post this on Twitter or Facebook,
55:01
Instagram, whatever, or am I I get to plot, put it up on this
55:05
week, add it because it's a thread.
55:08
This is invalid thread. Not a junk Fred?
55:10
So anyways, last part and man Sticking a fair question.
55:17
I feel like this is a jab at me right now because I'm definitely
55:20
taking this one. Personal how do you you all
55:24
managed or balance the career advancement process with the be
55:28
where your feet are mantra. and if you don't do that, then tell
55:33
us what monster you're living by Governor your first, this time,
55:39
buddy boy. Here's what I'll do.
55:57
I am finding now that and it's kind of refreshing a lot of
56:05
athletes in the recruiting process actually thinking about
56:11
quality of life. Now, About how do I do?
56:16
I want to go somewhere where You know, it's unfamiliar
56:22
surroundings, it's you know, I'm going to have to make new
56:25
friends. It's you know challenging
56:27
weather and when have to be indoors for five months, six
56:31
months out of the year. You know, it's 10 of lysing.
56:36
But do I really want to do that? And it's fun to me to hear
56:44
athletes that are actually, you know, they're going through
56:48
this, in their head. They're Ali actually thinking
56:51
long and hard about making these decisions about where to go
56:55
where they're going to spend four to five years of their
56:57
life. And so I kind of use that to say
57:03
that. If there's anything, I've
57:06
learned, and if anyone takes a look at my, my rise, you know,
57:11
in my movement up the ladder, you could be at the greatest
57:20
program, you could be at the program, that is the most
57:24
desirable in people's eyes, and it could be exactly the wrong
57:30
place for you. And you know what, what I found
57:36
in this profession is that, you know, there are people that will
57:41
give up what they value. Some some cases their integrity,
57:47
some cases. You know what?
57:50
They hold dear to themselves just because they're affiliated
57:54
with X y&z brand and it does not make for a very happy person.
58:02
It does not make For a very happy family.
58:04
It does not make for a very happy existence, you know.
58:09
And and you know I have I can I can say wholeheartedly that, you
58:14
know, I've learned my lesson and you know, the thing that I've
58:19
that I've come to realize is that when it's your time, and
58:25
when, you know, when it's your time, when when the recognition
58:28
is there and that opportunity presents itself, then you should
58:36
go ahead and explore it. but as you are learning and building
58:44
and evolving as a coach as a mentor, Do your job.
58:50
Do your job to the best of your ability because, you know, there
58:56
is a mean one point in my in my thinking, I was wondering, well,
59:00
if I go I take a step down. I've been to three power, five
59:05
schools have been Associated three, power, five schools.
59:09
I'm now going to a group of high school.
59:11
Does that mean that the power 5 is just going to stop thinking
59:14
that I exist? Are they going to stop realizing
59:17
that? I'm still the same coach?
59:20
I still have the same credentials I can still recruit
59:24
with the best of them. And you know this this I mean
59:28
this is my seventh year here at UTSA and I've realized that the
59:33
pride that I take in what I do every single day and the fact
59:38
that in some people's eyes, there's no way on God's green
59:41
earth. That UTSA should be doing what
59:43
they're doing. That means more to me, right,
59:48
that, that means more to me, and it gives me like a ground swell
59:52
of Pride that I can make mountains of them out of
59:57
molehills, right? So, you know, I know that the
1:00:04
recognition and the peer, my peers, recognize what I've done.
1:00:08
And I think at the same time, you know, there's a, there's
1:00:12
probably a reason why that opportunity hasn't Yet and I
1:00:15
just need to be patient. Right?
1:00:18
When you start trying to force the issue and you start to, you
1:00:21
know, now you're start, you're walking into minefields.
1:00:24
Now you're walking into situations, where, you know,
1:00:28
people that thought you were loyal or thought that you were,
1:00:32
you know, committed to a certain program to a certain situation.
1:00:37
Now they're going to start looking at you differently and
1:00:40
you know, know when you're going to need those people to step in
1:00:45
and go. Yes.
1:00:47
It's I'm this young man has done his duty by all means.
1:00:52
He needs to go ahead and run a program, you know?
1:00:55
So that's that's my as how I look at that question.
1:01:00
I hope is to not too long-winded, but that's what I
1:01:04
think. Everything on the LLC is too
1:01:06
long-winded, dog. How do you manage balance?
1:01:20
Career advancement process with the be where your feet are
1:01:25
mantra. Do your job and build
1:01:31
relationships. Honestly, I've never really
1:01:37
understood why it's so difficult for people to figure this one
1:01:41
out. This is not one of these super
1:01:44
complicated issues. At least it shouldn't be If you
1:01:50
sign up to do a job, do it, and do it to the best of your
1:01:54
ability. Hmm.
1:01:56
And if you want to be seen in a light that gets you, the next
1:02:02
job or a better job, as you see it as you perceive it, then you
1:02:09
better be building relationships while being excellent, ask, for
1:02:12
example, if you're not doing those two things, there is no.
1:02:18
Career advancement and by the way you suck at where you're at
1:02:25
but it's really not that complicated.
1:02:27
I think people make it complicated or it seems to be
1:02:31
complicated because ultimately they're not very happy with who
1:02:35
they are. They're not happy with their
1:02:38
path. They're being shunned to their
1:02:41
perspective. The world is against them, their
1:02:45
perspective. So if you're not happy with
1:02:47
yourself, I mean that's A different issue.
1:02:50
That's a different question. But do your job and build
1:02:54
relationships? That's simple.
1:02:59
As big league. Would you like to go?
1:03:02
Would you like me to go? You can decide that.
1:03:09
Did you see that? Everybody pay attention, that is
1:03:11
known as a Parry or a Dodge. I'll go.
1:03:19
And definitely, we need to put some money in the budget.
1:03:22
For some Robitussin for this, this panel.
1:03:24
We the most confident people like it got a bunch it.
1:03:32
Yeah, it's all right. All right, I had to sink it out,
1:03:43
you know, this could be forever. So I'm not going to do that.
1:03:48
I think the first thing that has always befuddled me is people
1:03:55
who are just hell bent on these preconceived paths, like, I'm
1:04:04
gonna do this for two years, then do this.
1:04:08
Then do that. I have always been befuddled by
1:04:13
that because there is literally no linear path.
1:04:18
At all in the world, the realm of coaching.
1:04:22
So to create some mythical linear path in your mind is just
1:04:29
bizarre and so misguided that. I don't even understand how we
1:04:33
even start on that Journey. But let's be clear many, many
1:04:38
people start on that Journey which is how we get to this kind
1:04:41
of question. I think it's really, really
1:04:46
simple. Make Everything You Touch better
1:04:50
than it was when you found it. And do every single job that you
1:04:54
are blessed to have to your very, very best ability if you
1:04:58
do those two things, right? If you master the space that you
1:05:03
are currently occupying, You couldn't possibly chart yourself
1:05:11
to move forward or on, or up as fast as it will happen. right,
1:05:20
if you If you're at a d to school and you rake, the very
1:05:27
best pits and run the most well-run meets possible, Right?
1:05:33
Some power 5 school is going to come to one of your Meats one
1:05:38
day. Take notice of the fact that man
1:05:42
I go to all these big meets of these big schools and everything
1:05:45
is always delayed but every time I come here whenever I need to
1:05:48
get done gets done like get in get out and I'm out.
1:05:53
I need to get across to do right as a Yahoo doing that.
1:05:58
Yep. You know if you know if you get
1:06:03
menial tasks that you think have nothing to do with your level 1
1:06:08
2 and 3 certificates and how great a coach you are.
1:06:13
It's your ability to master Dominate and appreciate menial
1:06:18
tasks, that proved that when I give you a bigger task.
1:06:24
If we give you a bigger and much more responsible job, I know
1:06:27
you're going to be successful at that because you worked as hard
1:06:31
as you could it making sure that everybody's Pockets were right.
1:06:35
Making sure that there are the right.
1:06:37
Number of listen. This is track coaches.
1:06:40
Okay? Yes.
1:06:43
We are. You give if you give any track
1:06:47
coach on this panel and I know we are subsection of all track
1:06:52
coaches. If you give any anybody on this
1:06:55
panel, a packet that has 40 numbers and 157 pins.
1:07:03
We got issues, right? If you can, if you can't count
1:07:07
to 4 and multiply it by the number of numbers, you gave me,
1:07:11
we have a problem. And if you're not willing to put
1:07:15
them in groups of four, you just going to dump 157 pins in my
1:07:21
packet. I know how you're going to be.
1:07:23
When I if I'm thinking of hiring you, I know that you were going
1:07:27
to cut Corners rush through things and not be thorough
1:07:31
because you're trying, On to the next thing.
1:07:34
I know that sounds menial. I'm telling y'all, this is how
1:07:37
it works. People notice especially track
1:07:43
coaches and our petty cells. We notice everything.
1:07:48
And the people who are Masters at the little things, the things
1:07:53
that actually end up being important like a time schedule.
1:07:58
Right. The people that Master those
1:08:01
things, are the ones that people respect and want to hire and
1:08:09
want to suggest for jobs. Because let's be clear, folks.
1:08:12
This is the part that people don't really get most times.
1:08:18
You get a job because somebody way above your pay grade suggest
1:08:23
it to somebody else way above your pay grade that you would be
1:08:27
good for that job. It is not because you put it on,
1:08:33
you know, on, you know, eggshell white card stock and you have
1:08:39
the most beautifully laid out resume that ain't it?
1:08:48
Who you know, and what they will say about you when you're not
1:08:52
standing, there is the most important part of advancement in
1:08:57
coaching and gentle in general. So if you don't do exactly what
1:09:02
Clyde said, which is build relationships, not false ones,
1:09:06
not fake ones, not take, you know.
1:09:08
Oh, well everybody knows Solutions and everybody calls
1:09:11
solutions for job. I better go become his friends.
1:09:14
Good luck with that. All of us.
1:09:18
See you coming from 700 miles away.
1:09:23
You're not really trying to get to know your potential Mentor,
1:09:27
you are just trying to get on somebody's resume, get somebody
1:09:32
on your resume because you think that's going to fast-track your
1:09:34
career. It will fast-track your career
1:09:38
left. So for me, my simple one is if
1:09:47
you if you're not good at low a I'm not going to promote you to
1:09:52
EE. So at that doesn't mean like,
1:09:57
you know, if you're, if you don't see that everybody has to
1:10:00
start a division three or any. I that's not what I'm saying.
1:10:04
But look, you could be a power 5 assistant, but you don't have a
1:10:08
group yet. You know, you respond to that.
1:10:14
Probably dictates how soon you get a group.
1:10:20
Right. Like, whether you're always at
1:10:23
what I'm going to do what I do, I'll even have nobody to coach,
1:10:26
like I don't even know what I'm out here for.
1:10:28
If that is your attitude. Yeah, you're going to stay right
1:10:30
there. Do you want to lose your job?
1:10:36
Yes, that is very true. That is very true.
1:10:40
So for me the way I see this question is I think the first
1:10:46
part is a mandatory, I think you have to be exactly where your
1:10:50
feet are and be dominant in that space.
1:10:54
If you have any expectations for career advancement, And I think
1:10:59
to think otherwise is insane. I think to build off of what
1:11:06
Clyde was saying and what everyone said in essence is
1:11:12
being where your feet are and dominating that space doing it
1:11:15
100% doing it to your best abilities, all those things.
1:11:18
But in the second breath and the exhale of it, or whatever you
1:11:22
want to say, it is being prepared for the opportunity
1:11:26
because you can't close yourself off to say, well, I need to
1:11:29
finish here or I'm not ready for that or Why like that's not what
1:11:35
I wanted to do. So the opportunities, the
1:11:38
opportunities, the opportunity, and you have to be ready and
1:11:40
open to do it wherever it is. Whoever it's with and whatnot
1:11:45
because what you didn't think was for you could have been the
1:11:48
best thing for you at the same time, so it's just being open to
1:11:52
the opportunity for it to happen and allowing those things to
1:11:54
happen. To a statement that was made
1:11:59
earlier than remember who made it.
1:12:00
So, I apologize. The, I'm not sure where the
1:12:03
linear thinking came from, and what not, it's Miss
1:12:07
misconceiving this perceiving hands on who you're talking to.
1:12:11
And when the goal, Your or your objectives thinking that that's
1:12:18
how it has to be. And yeah we want to make our
1:12:21
goals tangible and we get them very specific but there are
1:12:25
certain things that you don't have controllable over so those
1:12:28
can't be the specifics. So writing inaccurate gold is
1:12:30
how do we get some data to how we get too many you're thinking?
1:12:34
I have to do this at this school to get to the school.
1:12:39
Why and why that time you know so are you are you have to do is
1:12:46
study the rather some of these people that are in the positions
1:12:48
you think you want to know that that's nonsense.
1:12:51
Just saying right? No absolutely and it's funny,
1:12:55
you know, out of a very selfish, thought not recently, I said to
1:13:01
myself and this is coming from a motherly standpoint, not so much
1:13:05
a professional standpoint but it also could be applied there.
1:13:07
I just wanted to to like, put a GoPro on me and just from wake
1:13:13
up to lay down, you know, because I've had this and this
1:13:18
isn't a comment of a humble brag or anything just literally said.
1:13:23
I, I'm trying to get where you are.
1:13:25
I'm trying to be who you are. And I'm like, not everybody is
1:13:31
built for this and it's not because I'm strong, and it's not
1:13:34
because I do this done the third, it's because it's a law
1:13:37
that encompasses and it keeps a lot.
1:13:43
To maintain what this is what this is doing right now is a
1:13:46
lot. So make your own ear own, do
1:13:51
your own and that's how you be where your feet are and that's
1:13:55
how you create your own happiness.
1:13:58
So anyways, that's my My two cents.
1:14:04
So back to Our Roots, I like it. This is a some really good
1:14:08
stuff. So the info that you all came
1:14:11
for because this is going to be the best info.
1:14:13
The night is Lamar from afar, as would you rather?
1:14:18
And let's be real. So right?
1:14:25
I mean, you waited an hour and 15 minutes for this, so, here we
1:14:29
go. You ready, sir?
1:14:32
Yes, ma'am. Would you rather eat a worm or
1:14:35
like a slug? Either one, not if the second
1:14:42
one's not even a thought, but would you rather get caught
1:14:48
picking your nose or farting? Farting hundred percent.
1:14:59
Would you rather be the size of an elephant or the size of an
1:15:02
ant? An elephant.
1:15:08
Would you rather go to the Hall of Fame dinner or the Bowerman
1:15:11
dinner? That is the what that is?
1:15:18
Why we're asking a question Bowerman dinner?
1:15:25
But do be serving that the prime rib that is that is clutch.
1:15:31
That is usually why, why reason I are running to the front of
1:15:34
the line, experiment starts playing the song, Would you
1:15:39
rather forget your sandals or your towel at the beach?
1:15:49
I think I would rather my naked if I forgot my time.
1:16:23
What a Michael Jackson, bubbles? I'll take a robot, please.
1:16:30
Oh my goodness. All right.
1:16:32
Gentlemen, the would you rather as yours?
1:16:36
Oh my God, this is gonna be so mad.
1:16:52
They work, they work. I have a, I have a good one for
1:16:58
you, sir. Since we are almost to November
1:17:03
and Convention is upon us. Would you rather?
1:17:10
Continue to embarrass people in Spades at the convention or
1:17:15
throws already retired. You said or retire or retire?
1:17:22
Listen, I have already made this clear.
1:17:27
We are retired and we will be hosting an LLC Spades Tournament
1:17:35
for which we will. We will have on our Duke Tango,
1:17:38
Matt wigs and be making fun of people but we are done playing
1:17:44
Spades and ruining lives. Because listen, yeah, I can't
1:17:52
I'm trying to do good in the world and us play spades against
1:17:57
other track and field coach has in this country has been doing
1:18:00
nothing but harm to Young moldable Minds.
1:18:06
This is true. But may I throw this out?
1:18:10
See see here, I don't know, may I throw this out because it was
1:18:14
it was I was watching. You know, I got some downtime,
1:18:20
right? I was watching The Karate Kid.
1:18:25
I was watching The Karate. Kid, we sweep.
1:18:28
Are you sleeping? Your leg?
1:18:30
No, no, no, no, no. But in one of the think it was
1:18:35
seasoned, I think it was a, the movie, the third movie, the
1:18:40
tournament happened, and all Daniel had to do, was meet in
1:18:46
the final, so, if we host the tournament and somebody wins it,
1:18:53
What they could win. Is a shot at the throne. and
1:18:59
then, at least they earned this Listen to me.
1:19:05
If you win the playoffs, you don't get to play Tom.
1:19:09
Brady for all seven of his rings.
1:19:13
I understand that it be a 23 Championship, it's not, you
1:19:17
know, the crown, I have progressed mentally Beyond being
1:19:26
a player in these games any longer Okay, lack the last time
1:19:33
we played, if I remember correctly, I said specifically,
1:19:37
I don't even want to do this, I don't want to be here but y'all
1:19:42
keep pulling the cape and poking the bear.
1:19:46
So this this is what's gonna happen.
1:19:50
That is that is a, that is a partial truth because the last
1:19:55
time we played, I was the one that said I don't I want to do
1:20:01
this and I God we got drug carrying screaming into
1:20:10
thrashing. Another group of young people.
1:20:13
This is true. I'm just this is done.
1:20:16
I want to uplift, I want to help.
1:20:19
I want to say hey don't play that.
1:20:21
Don't play that. All right.
1:20:28
Would you rather be the legendary coach, or a legendary
1:20:32
athlete? Man, I'm not even gonna lie to
1:20:38
you. I very rarely very, very rarely
1:20:44
show any signs of any legitimate Eco.
1:20:48
Like, that's just really not how I'm wired and all three of, you
1:20:51
know, me very well in that regard.
1:20:52
But in this one, this question is very easy to me.
1:20:56
I would much rather be Kareem Abdul-Jabbar than John Wooden.
1:21:05
Okay. Like I have the utmost respect
1:21:09
for the coaching profession, obviously, but if to make my
1:21:13
choices are to be, you know, insert, like look at my, if I'm
1:21:19
going to be a viable choice, between being Michael Johnson,
1:21:21
acquired heart, I'll take my chances.
1:21:25
Okay. Question.
1:21:29
That was a really good question. I actually like that one a lot.
1:21:34
All right. Well you made it.
1:21:38
Yes. Good for you.
1:21:39
Good. You know you I feel like you
1:21:43
plot and plan the hardest for me.
1:21:48
Oh my gosh. Anyways, moving on to heartbeat
1:21:54
props. I mean do we do a blanket?
1:21:59
One I have yes, I feel like that as a yes.
1:22:04
Yeah. So are her people thoughts go
1:22:06
out to Sir lucious, hey cake, which Holloway aka the goat AKA
1:22:11
Godfather, aka the guy who just keeps getting, you know, things
1:22:18
are going on right now. And if, if he has to take a step
1:22:23
back, make sure his business gets taken care of, then we
1:22:26
ought to make sure he's It. So everyone is Tara and I can
1:22:31
say, means stronger if everybody.
1:22:34
So willing, please give them a second.
1:22:36
If your thoughts prayers Mojo, Good Vibes, whatever word it is.
1:22:40
You choose to give to him and to show them a little bit of extra
1:22:44
love more than you already do. Because Sometimes this is not
1:22:49
the time for hate. Yeah.
1:22:52
This is not the time to be a hater.
1:22:55
No comments or necessary just like is not.
1:22:58
Well, if I ain't even about that, just just one time for the
1:23:03
ones. I'm so sorry lucious.
1:23:06
We got you, whatever you need. Even if it's pick up the pen, we
1:23:10
got you. So take up to 10 to the next
1:23:14
portal kid. Sorry I had to do.
1:23:22
Anyways. All right, everyone.
1:23:24
Well as Halloween approaches 0, we have another show for
1:23:28
Halloween. Just kidding.
1:23:29
We'll talk about Halloween next week, like I don't even know
1:23:32
what day it is. Alright, everyone have a great
1:23:35
week. I'll see each other soon.
1:23:37
I feel like, I feel like costumes are appropriate.
1:23:42
Oh dang, so we're gonna go from Christmas Christmas sweaters,
1:23:46
costumes. I mean, I'm much more into the
1:23:49
into the Halloween. All right, we'll have to go like
1:23:58
really like I feel like I feel like LLC your costume with kind
1:24:01
of has to happen. Okay.
1:24:09
Figure that out. Sounds good.
1:24:13
I understand it. No.
1:24:16
LLC will come out and then it'll be hallo Master.
1:24:19
That's what? Yeah.
1:24:19
So I lied. Happy Halloween have fun.
1:24:22
Don't eat the candy with a holes in it.
1:24:24
So you guys later. Bye everyone.
1:24:29
So what the last? Come on, come on.
1:24:42
Wait till you poor little tough love punch.
1:24:45
When arms little brothers Athletics trouble.
1:24:47
I'll see if there's no others track and field space, you will
1:24:50
peel the go father. Hey Wiley Coyote is roadrunners.
1:24:54
Feels like you know what you've been with us the whole summer,
1:24:57
if not for this quarantine these floor Corners, wouldn't be here.
1:25:01
But we're here to stop raining, you gotta understand.
1:25:04
Rapes. Gotta catch Smalls.
1:25:05
Show you how to fight for. Sure.
1:25:07
So you are you lack experience? But still, you want to turn and
1:25:11
who is that you jump to yourself?
1:25:12
We got a small heads prevail when the backbone, strong Gotta
1:25:16
Keep It Comin over won't last long, Pastor Phil.
1:25:20
This isn't all this a song and if you don't check yourself then
1:25:23
a strong jet trying to give you the rich asshole.
1:25:27
So why you keep cutting us off to a small?
1:25:29
We put it in slow motion. What you fast forward Force?