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Scheme Insiders: Justin Whitlatch Ohio State Offense vs. Illinois Breakdown · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: enjoy Justin Whitlatch and his breakdown of the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: offense against Illinois.
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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, this week I want to go over some
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Speaker 2: of the things Ohio State can improve upon moving forward.
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Speaker 2: I thought they had a pretty good day offensively. There's
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Speaker 2: always room for improvement, but I think the one thing
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Speaker 2: that stood out to me was some pass pro issues.
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Speaker 2: I think in terms of identifying the front who we're
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Speaker 2: going to slide to, we had some issues, I thought.
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Speaker 2: I think we also had some issues of where the
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Speaker 2: offensive linemen who are in slide protection, I think we're
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Speaker 2: opening up our hips too much and our shoulders, and
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Speaker 2: we're giving defensive line and some of the stunts that
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Speaker 2: we saw. leverage to get to the quarterback. So I
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Speaker 2: kind of want to come at it as a teachable moment, too,
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Speaker 2: to kind of teach you guys how Ohio State runs
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Speaker 2: their pass pro and really how a majority of NFL
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Speaker 2: teams and college football teams, how they run pass pro.
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Speaker 2: So typically half slide is your norm or your base
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Speaker 2: pass pro. And I'll let this kind of play as
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Speaker 2: we start it started here. And it's all determined on
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Speaker 2: the front. So four-man half slide versus a three-man half
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Speaker 2: slide looks pretty different just because of the front alignment
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Speaker 2: and who you're going to slide to. But with a
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Speaker 2: 3-3 stack, and actually I'm going to let it play.
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Speaker 2: With a 3-3 stack, it's hard to know who that
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Speaker 2: fourth rusher is going to be. That's why a lot
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Speaker 2: of teams play odd front looks. You never know where
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Speaker 2: that fourth man is coming from. And that's why half
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Speaker 2: slide and or full slide is typically your answer. But
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Speaker 2: let's go back and kind of take a look at
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Speaker 2: base rules, who we're going to slide to. but you'll
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Speaker 2: see pre-snap, they wanted to get the look, or at
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Speaker 2: least Julian wanted to get the look of who he
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Speaker 2: wants to slide to. So you'll see pre-snap, okay, who
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Speaker 2: are we pointing to? So we're pointing to 26. So
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Speaker 2: 26 will be what's called our point man, okay? Typically, again,
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Speaker 2: when you see a quarterback go, hey, Mike 26, Mike 26,
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Speaker 2: that's who your half side will work to. So you're
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Speaker 2: in this situation here, your center, right guard, right tackle,
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Speaker 2: everyone will be working in conjunction to slide to 26. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So what does that mean? What does the point man mean?
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Speaker 2: Typically it's in the quarterback's eyes, the most dangerous guy
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Speaker 2: to bring pressure. And we're going to slide to him
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Speaker 2: just to be able to take our three on three.
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Speaker 2: So half slide rules. If our point man is going
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Speaker 2: to be 26, okay. In an odd front look, okay.
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Speaker 2: This is what it'll look like. So half slide, and
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Speaker 2: we can already tell we're pointing there. Right tackle will
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Speaker 2: slide to C gap. Right guard will slide to B gap.
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Speaker 2: Your center will slide to A gap. So if your
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Speaker 2: backside guard is uncovered, and again, in odd fronts, typically
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Speaker 2: your guards are uncovered, he will also slide with it.
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Speaker 2: So in this, it's a four-man slide instead of a
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Speaker 2: three-man slide. Why is that? Again, odd front rules. If
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Speaker 2: you're uncovered as a guard and we're working in a
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Speaker 2: slide protection, typically you're going to slide to the point man. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: if it's a four-man front, that backside guard is covered.
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Speaker 2: We're going to be in Bob protection rules backside. So
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Speaker 2: that means you're going to be big on big. Your
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Speaker 2: right guard will be on the D tackle. I'm sorry,
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Speaker 2: your left guard will be on the D tackle. Your
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Speaker 2: left tackle will be on the defensive end or whoever
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Speaker 2: shows in C gap or the first man who shows
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Speaker 2: in C gap, if that makes sense. So those would
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Speaker 2: be your rules. So if you want to think about it,
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Speaker 2: these four will work in conjunction with these four. And again,
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Speaker 2: your right tackle, C-gap, right guard, B-gap, center, A-gap, and
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Speaker 2: then your backside guard will be backside A. They all
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Speaker 2: have to work in conjunction, and they have to be
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Speaker 2: able to work with the same footwork and the same
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Speaker 2: shoulder leverage so they're not giving up any room for
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Speaker 2: any of these stunts to bring any pressure. So again,
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Speaker 2: those four are going to work to those four. Backside, again,
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Speaker 2: right tackle will be on the in-man line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 2: Let's say seven walks up into B-gap. That would turn
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Speaker 2: almost into an even look, a four-man look, and then
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Speaker 2: he would be in Bob protection backside on that three-tech
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Speaker 2: or a walked-up linebacker three-tech. All right. So that's going
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Speaker 2: to be an adjustment. Okay. So you'll see pre-snap with
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Speaker 2: seven walking up, okay, Montgomery went back to Bob protection rules, okay,
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Speaker 2: Tackles on the in-man line of scrimmage. We have a
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Speaker 2: walked-up backer almost playing like a three-tech. So that's going
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Speaker 2: to be ball protection rules. So it almost ends up
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Speaker 2: like an even front. So again, it doesn't matter what
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Speaker 2: you're going to throw at an offensive line. They're always
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Speaker 2: going to have these answers in their back pocket when
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Speaker 2: it comes to half slide. So this turns into an
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Speaker 2: even look. So you'll see you've got a two-eye here.
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Speaker 2: You've got a walked-up three, five, and you've got a
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Speaker 2: five backside. So this turns into half slide. Again, same
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Speaker 2: thing we drew up earlier. Only difference is now Your
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Speaker 2: left guard is now going to be in ball protection
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Speaker 2: on the walked-up backer, tackles on the walked-up, and may
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Speaker 2: analyze scrimmage. If they bring a fifth, that would be
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Speaker 2: on number 10 here, your quarterback. He would have to
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Speaker 2: throw hot, or there would have to be a sight
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Speaker 2: adjustment from your receiver to be able to take care
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Speaker 2: of that fifth rusher. And we'll slow it down on
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Speaker 2: the snap. So you'll see they're in a creeper pressure look.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, a sim pressure look. So the walked-up three
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Speaker 2: technique is now going to be a pass-first player, You've
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Speaker 2: got your tackle on the five. You've got them locked up.
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Speaker 2: We're working A, B, and then C. You can already
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Speaker 2: tell pre-snap, way too much room on half-slide protection. That's
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Speaker 2: going to open up avenues for backers on any type
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Speaker 2: of stunt or any type of eat stunt to be
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Speaker 2: able to work into that opening. He should be able
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Speaker 2: to take over 43. I should already be working the
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Speaker 2: B gap, but we have too much We have too
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Speaker 2: much room to work with and it's going to be
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Speaker 2: really hard for him to get there. He ends up
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Speaker 2: getting there. And again, those three got to take care
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Speaker 2: of these three. Okay. Honestly, we, we, I think we
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Speaker 2: handled the stunt pretty well. Okay. We pass off to
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Speaker 2: a gap. So we pass off that two, that two
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Speaker 2: eye into our center. Okay. The looper we're taking with
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Speaker 2: our guard and the B gap, and he's going to
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Speaker 2: try to loop inside. But we do a really good
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Speaker 2: job of all shoving it together. And then our backside
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Speaker 2: tackle gets beat, which you have a two for one.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how this gets beat. But for Julian,
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Speaker 2: he still has time to sit in the pocket. This
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Speaker 2: is still taken care of. I think he gets out
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Speaker 2: a little bit too early. But again, those are just
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Speaker 2: some rules to think about. I think your quarterback's got
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Speaker 2: to get the ball out a little bit earlier. He
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Speaker 2: ends up making a play. But I think versus a
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Speaker 2: better opponent, that's probably a loss. So again, just going
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Speaker 2: over normal rules. Okay, let's let this thing play out.
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Speaker 2: We'll go over Pass Pro here. Look at it from
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Speaker 2: the back end. All right, so here's another adjustment to
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Speaker 2: when you have If you're a half-slide team, if you
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Speaker 2: have what's called a 5-0 look or a five-man walked up,
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Speaker 2: that turns into 5-0 protection. So what's that mean? Typically,
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Speaker 2: you're big on big, and we can draw it up
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Speaker 2: to start. So you'll see that they're in a odd
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Speaker 2: front look with both backers walked up. It's almost what
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Speaker 2: NFL teams call a jam look. Everybody's jammed up at
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. So center typically would call, jam, jam, jam.
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Speaker 2: And then you would put the 5-0 up look. So
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Speaker 2: the five hands up look, you see that a ton
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Speaker 2: in the NFL when you see the five up look. Typically,
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Speaker 2: that means big on big. So tackle, okay, will be
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Speaker 2: on the outside backer walked up. Okay, your left guard
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Speaker 2: will be on the four technique. Okay, center should have
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Speaker 2: your nose. Okay, your right guard should work to the
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Speaker 2: three tech. Okay, and then your tackle should work to
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Speaker 2: the five tech. I'm sorry. Your guard should work to
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Speaker 2: the four tech. That's a head up. Okay, and then
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Speaker 2: your tackle should work to the walk up outside backer.
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Speaker 2: So that is a 5-0 look. Typically, teams like to
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Speaker 2: do this on any type of third down, and they'll
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Speaker 2: come out of it with their outside backers and kind
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Speaker 2: of give you a simulated pressure and then they'll only
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Speaker 2: rush four and again you don't know where those four
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Speaker 2: are coming from so if they give you this look
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Speaker 2: pre-snap and then you change to a 5-0 okay you
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Speaker 2: may not get that post snap and that's exactly what
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Speaker 2: you get here so you get 45 okay playing as
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Speaker 2: a flat player You've got, it looks like a slant
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Speaker 2: here into the boundary. Okay, and then you've got four rush.
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Speaker 2: So your in-man line of scrimmage here, your walked up
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Speaker 2: backer will be your fourth rusher. Center gets beat by
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Speaker 2: the looper only because we didn't get hands on it post-snap.
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Speaker 2: So take your pass set. You can tell we're unbalanced.
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Speaker 2: You can tell the feet, you can already tell he's
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Speaker 2: unbalanced because his feet opening up the hip. Okay, hands
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Speaker 2: are outside. We won't even get hands on him. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I think our Our right guard does a really good
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Speaker 2: job of riding that inside. Same with our tackle. I
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Speaker 2: think we actually do a really good job of passing off,
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Speaker 2: but I think if we were able to get hands
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Speaker 2: on 96, we shouldn't have to pass anything off. As
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Speaker 2: we get hands elsewhere and you create a pile, if
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Speaker 2: you're able to get hands on at all positions from
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Speaker 2: your center to your right guard, your right tackle, you
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Speaker 2: create this pile here. We're not able to because we
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Speaker 2: have a looper. But if we create that pile here,
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Speaker 2: that takes care of Julian. He can either step up
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Speaker 2: or he can escape through C-gap And then you get
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Speaker 2: beat backside. We do a great job of passing off here,
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Speaker 2: but our left tackle gets beat. And I think it
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Speaker 2: really throws Julian off on his timing, so he's got
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Speaker 2: to get this out quicker than he wanted to, which
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Speaker 2: I think is why he underthrows that ball there. So
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Speaker 2: that's a 5-0 look. So 5-0 protection. You get a
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Speaker 2: simulated pressure, so you only get four, and you've got
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Speaker 2: to communicate, and you've got to be able to pass
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Speaker 2: off those stunts. But I think if you get hands-on
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Speaker 2: pretty quick before the stunt, you create that pile that
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Speaker 2: I was talking about. All right, let's go through the slow.
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Speaker 2: Looks like you've got curl here into the field. So
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Speaker 2: you get your stack look, so 3-3 stack. Take away
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Speaker 2: some of the drawings that I had beforehand. So you
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Speaker 2: have a creeper on here. You have the 3-3 base look,
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Speaker 2: and then post-snap we're bringing the pressure. So let's go
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Speaker 2: through it pretty quick. So, again, now here's your four-man
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Speaker 2: slide I talked about earlier. A lot of odd fronts.
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Speaker 2: A lot of teams will teach the first uncovered lineman
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Speaker 2: is who starts the half slide. So if we're going
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Speaker 2: half slide to our left here, okay, tackle's covered. He
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Speaker 2: should be in man line of scrimmage. Okay, guard is uncovered,
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Speaker 2: so he should start the half slide. So your guard
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Speaker 2: should have backside A, your center should have frontside A, guard,
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Speaker 2: frontside B, and then center, frontside C. Tackle is manned
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Speaker 2: up on the 5-tech. So these four should be able
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Speaker 2: to handle these four. Tackle is on the in-man line
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Speaker 2: of scrimmage, and your back should be able to take
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Speaker 2: care of 45. So again, you're evened up. So you'll
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Speaker 2: see post-snap, which is correct here. And what kind of
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Speaker 2: the rules I talked about earlier, we're in half slide.
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Speaker 2: The only thing is I don't think we're working in conjunction.
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Speaker 2: We have opened hips, open shoulders where we sat really
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Speaker 2: far out wide. So you could give a lot of
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Speaker 2: room here to work with. So if they shoot a
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Speaker 2: two for one in the gap, I think you're screwed. Okay.
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Speaker 2: You're not able to pass this off because you're too
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Speaker 2: far away from it, but they end up doing a
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Speaker 2: really good job at it. And our backside guard just
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Speaker 2: gets beat on his slide protection. And it just shows you,
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Speaker 2: you've got to be able to win those one-on-one battles. Okay, rules-wise,
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Speaker 2: you're fine. It's the right call. It's the right slide protection.
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Speaker 2: You've just got to be able to beat it from
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Speaker 2: a center standpoint. Got deep curls here. Okay, let's look
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Speaker 2: at it from the back-end view. Again, odd front rules. Again,
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Speaker 2: this is really just for the teaching moment. Look, pre-snap,
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Speaker 2: it's hard to determine what you're going to call in
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Speaker 2: terms of protection. But using your rules, it makes it
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Speaker 2: a lot easier. So if we're pointing to seven, we're
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Speaker 2: sliding to seven into the boundary because we think that's
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Speaker 2: where the pressure is coming from. We're going to half slide.
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Speaker 2: So tackle backside. Again, he's covered. I know he's outside
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Speaker 2: your tight end, but he's a covered player. Guard uncovered,
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Speaker 2: starts the slide. So a lot of times in the
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Speaker 2: odd front protection in your half slide, you'll be in
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Speaker 2: a four-man slide instead of a three. Anytime you get
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Speaker 2: an even front, you're going to be more of a
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Speaker 2: three-man slide because your backside guard would be covered. But
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Speaker 2: in the situation uncovered, we're sliding. It doesn't matter what
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Speaker 2: stunt you throw at it. He goes in, he goes out,
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Speaker 2: he goes in, and he goes in. We're still able
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Speaker 2: to take care of that. You've got four for four.
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Speaker 2: But the most important thing is are we setting the
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Speaker 2: same length, the same aiming point, Are we opening up
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Speaker 2: our shoulders? If we're not doing all those things, then
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Speaker 2: you should be able to handle any of these stunts.
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Speaker 2: But again, you'll see open hip. Open hip, we're too late.
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Speaker 2: We're good here. Back's good. We're handling the stunt. So
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Speaker 2: he should be able to pass this off, but he
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Speaker 2: can't because he opened the hip. You open the hip,
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Speaker 2: you set up yourself for failure. So he's going to
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Speaker 2: be able to climb in B, and he's going to
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Speaker 2: be able to come through A. And that's because you're
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Speaker 2: not setting... at the same depth up front with all
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Speaker 2: of your half-slide offensive linemen. Only thing is we're opening
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Speaker 2: up our hip. I think his first step is good.
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Speaker 2: His second step is what got him. He stepped in
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Speaker 2: the bucket, and then you're dead in the water from there.
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Speaker 2: Here's a good look at an even front, and we'll
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Speaker 2: talk about rules. Let's say, I know this may not
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Speaker 2: be the play, but let's say we're pointing to 26.
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Speaker 2: That's the point, man. He's your mic. Okay, we're going
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Speaker 2: to slide to the mic. Okay, we'll start backside. Am
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Speaker 2: I covered?
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Speaker 1: Covered? Yes.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm big on big. Covered backside from the guard? Yes.
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Speaker 2: So now it's only a three-man half slide. Okay, so
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Speaker 2: these three offensive linemen would take care. I'm sorry, these
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Speaker 2: three offensive linemen would take care of these three players. Okay,
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Speaker 2: if you get a pressure out here from the mic, okay,
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Speaker 2: 24 would be able to take care of it. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you got big on big backside. But in this situation,
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Speaker 2: they're going full man slide. And again, what did I
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Speaker 2: talk about earlier is are we setting at the same
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Speaker 2: depth and level? We are. Offensive linemen do a great job.
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Speaker 2: I think your tight end here in this situation just
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Speaker 2: gets beat. I think his feet are good. Hips are good.
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Speaker 2: He just gets beat. It's hard for your tight ends.
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Speaker 2: They don't really pass pro a ton. So when they're
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Speaker 2: involved in the full slide, and I see it. Look
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Speaker 2: at the hands. Placement's great. Body is great. The angle
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Speaker 2: of it is great. He just gets beat.